Out of the Shadows

By Gemma Hoskins & Shane Waters

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Join grassroots investigator from Netflix's docu-series 'The Keepers' Gemma Hoskins and Investigative Podcaster Shane Waters as they further explore Sister Cathy Cesnik's unsolved murder and the coverup of sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Baltimore.


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Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 24.5 : Jane the Phone Lady
01:06:19

This week Gemma and Shane sat down to discuss the crazy 'Kelly the box girl' scenario we reminded you of last week when we searched all over the world for a box of evidence. Our special guest is who we later found out to be a victim in this scam - and who we referred to as 'Jane the phone lady' when we first presented the episode last week. Make sure you have already re-listened to last week's episode! 


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


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Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

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GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

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May 15, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 24 : Kelly the Box Girl
00:40:56

Many of you have been reaching out asking where you can find two episodes Gemma and I have referenced in the podcast a few times on Kelly the Box Girl. In February of 2018 Gemma and I worked together to chase a promising lead after The Keepers was released. The two episodes are really far back in the podcast’s archives so to help listeners find it we decided to release the two episodes combined for this week’s episode in our Sister Cathy series. What you are about to hear is a series of odd events that resulted in us trying to track down a box of what seemed to be very important evidence. Stick around to the very end to hear our conclusion. 

May 08, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 23 : The Hidden Predator Act of 2019
00:52:08

A few weeks ago we shared that house Bill 687, also known as The Hidden Predator Act of 2019, was being sponsored by CT Wilson. House Delegate Wilson’s Bill would end Maryland’s statue of limitations for civil claims against perpetrators of child sex abuse - and would also include a 2 year look-back window, a time which victims could bring claims in cases where the previous statute of limitations has expired. If you’ve seen The Keepers, you will remember Delegate Wilson speaking on his experience as a survivor and how hard it is to pass laws that the Archdiocese fights against. 


This week we want you to hear Delegate Wilson’s speech as well as the back and forth in Annapolis, Maryland in March at the Judicial Proceedings Committee. 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys are sexually abused in the United States - and to this day most still have not disclosed their abuse publicly. 


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : Wix.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS for 10% Premium Plans

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows

Sponsor : NativeDeodorant.com PROMO code SHADOWS

Sponsor : Shadows.Robinhood.com

Sponsor : Betterhelp.com/Shadows

Sponsor : Storyworth.com/Shadows for $20 off


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

May 01, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 22 : Cemetery Dig
00:39:48

In Maryland Shane and Gemma sit down to discuss the Cemetery dig that uncovered a large room sized hole in the ground that Fr Maskell used to hide documents and photos. Accompanying this podcast is a short video on the cemetery dig which can be found in the Out of the Shadows Discussion Group.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : Wix.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS for 10% Premium Plans

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows

Sponsor : NativeDeodorant.com PROMO code SHADOWS

Sponsor : Shadows.Robinhood.com

Sponsor : Betterhelp.com/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Apr 24, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 21.5 : The Timeline (Part 2)
00:44:03

Shane and Gemma sit down in Gemma's kitchen to discuss the entirety of the timeline surrounding Sister Cathy's case. From the life and death of Fr Maskell, to the time leading and after Cathy's disappearance - we hope this episode will let you know a clearer picture of the sequence of events. This is part 2 of the conversation.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : Wix.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS for 10% Premium Plans

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows

Sponsor : NativeDeodorant.com PROMO code SHADOWS

Sponsor : Shadows.Robinhood.com

Sponsor : Betterhelp.com/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Apr 17, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 21 : The Timeline (Part 1)
00:43:57

Shane and Gemma sit down in Gemma's kitchen to discuss the entirety of the timeline surrounding Sister Cathy's case. From the life and death of Fr Maskell, to the time leading and after Cathy's disappearance - we hope this episode will let you know a clearer picture of the sequence of events. This is part 1 of the conversation.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows

Sponsor : NativeDeodorant.com PROMO code SHADOWS

Sponsor : Shadows.Robinhood.com

Sponsor : Betterhelp.com/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Apr 10, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 20 : LIVE in Maryland with Teresa and Donna
00:56:56

Shane travels to the Baltimore area for a week - recording many episodes including this one in Greenbelt, MD with Survivor Teresa and call-in with Survivor Donna. Please take a moment to call these two Maryland senators and tell them "I am asking the senator to vote to pass House Bill 687, The Hidden Predator Act of 2019. It will protect other Maryland youngsters from abuse by allowing abuse survivors legal avenues to justice." Senators: Mike Miller Jr 410-841-3700. Robert Zirkin 410-841-3131.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows

Sponsor : NativeDeodorant.com PROMO code SHADOWS

Sponsor : Shadows.Robinhood.com

Sponsor : Betterhelp.com/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Apr 03, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 19 : Q&A with Gemma and Shane, Part 2
01:01:40

PART 2 : Gemma and Shane discuss the case, as well as answer questions that listeners have sent in.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows

Sponsor : NativeDeodorant.com PROMO code SHADOWS

Sponsor : Shadows.Robinhood.com

Sponsor : Betterhelp.com/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Mar 27, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 19 : Q&A with Gemma and Shane, Part 1
00:50:28

Gemma and Shane discuss the case, as well as answer questions that listeners have sent in.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Mar 20, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 18.5 : Maskell's Confidential Student Secretary, Part 2
00:35:02

This is part 2 of our discussion with Lil.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Mar 13, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 18 : Maskell's Confidential Student Secretary, Part 1
00:34:23

Around the same time Sister Cathy went missing in 1969, Father Maskell started looking for a confidential secretary. Student Lil Hughes (Knipp) agreed to fill this position.


Some episode corrections: Lil has 7 siblings, not 8. Her dad was in the service but was home for Christmas. When Lil mentioned that those who work in a private school has access to a lot of information, she would like to clarify that files are kept confidential HOWEVER she believes Fr Maskell bullied the nuns at the school and acted as though he was the person in charge. This provided him with access to private and confidential information on students.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Feb 27, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 17 : 1975 Maskell Abuse Reported
00:34:16

In last week’s interview with Sean Caine from the Archdiocese of Baltimore - one of the subjects we discussed was when abuse allegations against Father Maskell first happened. Caine says according to their documents the first accusations were in the 90s when Jean Wehner came forward during the Doe/Roe lawsuit. When asked about Charles’ statement that his mother went to the diocese when he as being abused, Caine said they have no documentation of it happening. What we know is that after Charles’ mother found out, Maskell was moved. Now we bring you the story of another who says they too reported the abuse - which resulted in Fr Maskell being removed from Archbishop Keough High School.


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Feb 20, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 16.5 : Interview with the Archdiocese of Baltimore (Part 2)
00:44:36

Part 1: The following interview is with the Vice Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. We will release this interview in two parts, and there have been no edits or production added to the interview. If you are a survivor of clergy abuse in Baltimore, please take caution when listening as this could be a trigger. This is the first time we have been able to sit down for a discussion with the Archdiocese, so please remember as a journalist, I will be remaining respectful but determined.  


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Feb 13, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 16 : Interview with the Archdiocese of Baltimore (Part 1)
00:46:36

Part 1: The following interview is with the Vice Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. We will release this interview in two parts, and there have been no edits or production added to the interview. In the second part it was mentioned they fear being taken out of context by editing. If you are a survivor of clergy abuse in Baltimore, please take caution when listening as this could be a trigger. This is the first time we have been able to sit down for a discussion with the Archdiocese, so please remember as a journalist, I will be remaining respectful but determined.  


Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. 


Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com)


Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod

One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com

Twitter:​ @theshadowspod


GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows 

Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! 

Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows


You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! 


Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Feb 06, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 15.5 : Bombshell - The Man in the Trench Coat (Part 2)
00:57:41

Part 2 : We continue our conversation with Sharon Bush - she explained she was present in the apartment shortly before Sister Cathy disappeared. Later that night Sister Russell, Sharon’s best friend, called her worried that Cathy never returned. Early the next morning Sharon made her way to their apartment, being confronted by Sister Russell and a detective once she made it inside the apartment. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod One-Time Donations can be made via Paypal to Shane@Shadowspod.com Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! Sponsor : GreenChef.us/Shadows You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Jan 30, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 15 : Bombshell - The Man in the Trench Coat (Part 1)
00:42:59

Part 1: I’ve seen it before, a cold case stays unsolved until someone comes forward with information they thought was unimportant. It’s an important lesson to learn - if you know anything, no matter how insignificant and small you think it may be, it may be an important piece to the larger puzzle. We have thought for a long time that surely Cathy’s friend and roommate Sister Russell must have known of the abuse at Keough - and wondered if they ever told the police. Now - we have a first hand eye witness account of the man in the trench coat. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c Sponsor : StitchFix.com/Shadows Sponsor : TakeCareOf.com enter PROMO code SHADOWS50 for 50% off! You can find our show and ALL episodes by smartphone app 'Himalaya' - search for it in the Google Play store or iTunes store then follow us! Checkout our website : Shadowspod.com

Jan 23, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 14.5 : Reflections on 'The Keepers' with Ryan White and Jean Wehner, Part 2
00:39:52

Part 2 : Joining Gemma and Shane for a two part episode in our series on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik is Ryan White and Jean Wehner. Ryan White is the director of Netflix's 'The Keepers' and provides an insight on the making of the docu-series and speaks to the aftermath of its release. Jean Wehner was the first survivor to come forward in the 90s which resulted in her being known as 'Jane Doe' during the trial against Maskell and the Baltimore AOB. Jean Wehner's book 'Conversations with My Self: A Collections of Poems' referenced in this episode can be found on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-My-Self-Collection-Poems/dp/1974010066 Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c Article Referenced in this episode : https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-archdiocese-name-change-20181221-story.html

Jan 16, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 14 : Reflections on 'The Keepers' with Ryan White and Jean Wehner, Part 1
00:43:44

Joining Gemma and Shane for a two part episode in our series on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik is Ryan White and Jean Wehner. Ryan White is the director of Netflix's 'The Keepers' and provides an insight on the making of the docu-series and speaks to the aftermath of its release. Jean Wehner was the first survivor to come forward in the 90s which resulted in her being known as 'Jane Doe' during the trial against Maskell and the Baltimore AOB. Jean Wehner's book 'Conversations with My Self: A Collections of Poems' referenced in this episode can be found on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-My-Self-Collection-Poems/dp/1974010066 Correction: The judge Jean speaks of is named Hilary Caplan. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Jan 09, 2019
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 13.5 : Behind the Mic
01:01:54

This special episode features hosts Shane and Gemma discussing the details that have led them here. We will return on January 8th with an interview with Jean (aka Jane Doe) and Ryan White (director) of Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers'. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Dec 22, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 13: You Never Know
00:54:24

This episode is dedicated to teachers and their students. Teachers, stay vigilant because you never know. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Dec 19, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 12: Teachers and Friends
00:57:18

This week’s guest has a unique insight into both Cathy and Russell’s personalities. They were her teachers, and later her friends. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Dec 12, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 11: Good Joe, Bad Joe
01:02:12

Dr. Lee Richmond was a professor of Education at Loyola University Maryland in the area of school counseling. She is a licensed psychologist in the state of Maryland and is well known for her knowledge in counseling. Dr. Richmond is also uniquely qualified to tell us about her friendship with a previous post-master student of hers at Loyola - someone we know as Father Joseph Maskell. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Dec 05, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 10 : If only they had listened
00:54:31

Please be advised this episode contains content and language that is graphic in nature, listener discretion is strongly advised. Where were you at in life at the age of 13? Personally, I remember being in 8th grade using my free time to binge read Harry Potter books. Charles Franz had a much different experience… For more than 5 years Charles fell victim to a predator - someone he knew as Father Joseph Maskell. You have heard from female survivors so far in this series, but Maskell’s reign of terror wasn’t limited to gender or age. Charles is an amazing person, we thank him for sharing his story with us. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Nov 28, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 9.5 : Q&A
00:31:01

This special episode consists of Gemma and Shane answering questions many listeners have sent in about this case. We have several very eye-opening interviews coming up so stay tuned! Patreon Support : Patreon.com/theshadowspod

Nov 21, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 9 : Shady Business
00:44:51

Podcaster Brooke Gittings joins us to discuss her knowledge of the assistant state's attorney Sharon May. This is an episode you do not want to miss! Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Nov 14, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 8 : Coincidence
00:46:57

Sharon’s uncle Billy happens to live in the apartment complex, granting him access to always being able to know when Cathy enters and leaves. He could easily be seen as someone who wouldn’t bring attention to himself for lingering around the place while waiting for Cathy to return home from shopping. And conveniently her car is later dropped just around the corner to his patio door. Sharon joins us again to talk more about her Uncle Billy - I will leave it up to you to decide what is more than just a coincidence. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Nov 07, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 7 : Jane Roe
01:16:31

Although several victims of Father Maskell came forward in the 90s, Sharon May at the prosecuting office refused to go forward with charges. Many questions arose as to why​ in 'The Keepers' Sharon May suggested she just didn’t think she had enough to convict him of charges… more on this later. When criminal charges were going nowhere, two women, who choose to keep their identity secret, came forward to sue in civil court: Jane Doe and Jane Roe. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter:​ @theshadowspod Sponsorship for this series:​ Ziprecruiter.com/shadows GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c End of Podcast Promo:​ The Minds of Madness Podcast

Oct 31, 2018
Special Episode : Shadows Halloween 2018
00:04:53

This is a short special episode for Halloween 2018. Shane shares a story about a haunted forest in Peru, Indiana.

Oct 30, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 6 : The Connection
01:13:25

Today you are going to hear from a very brave survivor who wasn’t featured in The Keepers. Michele Stanton can link Edgar Davison with Officer James Scannell, a very important connection. We know already of Father Maskell’s strong ties to the police department, its starting to get harder to doubt the involvement of this monster whom seems to have always been lurking in the shadows. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter : @theshadowspod Sponsorship for this series : Ziprecruiter.com/shadows GoFundMe for Survivors : https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7c

Oct 24, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 5 : "If I told I will die"
01:06:20

This episode may not be appropriate for all listeners. Details about sexual abuse will be discussed - listener discretion is advised. Now a Nurse Practitioner, Donna Vondenbosch was ritually abused by Father Joseph Maskell. After years of abuse, Maskell also left Donna with a hypnotic suggestion that if she ever told anyone about her experience she would then have to commit suicide. This is Donna’s story. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter : @theshadowspod Sponsorship for this series : Ziprecruiter.com/shadows

Oct 17, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 4 : Bob Erlandson, Doe/Roe Investigative Reporter
01:43:13

Investigative Reporter Bob Erlandson sits down with Gemma and Shane to discuss all aspects of Sister Cathy's murder, cover up of abuse, as well as the ongoing events surrounding sexual abuse in Baltimore. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter : @theshadowspod Sponsorship for this series : Ziprecruiter.com/shadows

Oct 10, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 3 : Cindy Lovell's Journey from Victim to Survivor
01:24:35

Survivor Cindy Lovell suffered for a year and a half of ritual rape and abuse by Father Joseph Maskell while attending Archbishop Keough High School. She had no control, no choice, and those whom she told and asked for help did not believe her. When 'The Keepers' was being filmed she was not quite ready to share her horrific story with the world - but now she is. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter : @theshadowspod Sponsorship for this series : Ziprecruiter.com/shadows

Oct 03, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 2 : Sharon Schmidt's Family Reflections
00:40:22

Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters sit down with Sharon Schmidt to discuss her family, including her uncle that lived across from Sister Cathy at the time of her murder. Sharon also discusses another bizarre unsolved murder that happened in her family only a couple years after Sister Cathy's murder. Two unsolved murders happening around the same man, is it a coincidence? Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters in this new podcast series about the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, featured on Netflix's Docs-Series 'The Keepers'. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadowspod Twitter : @theshadowspod Sponsorship for this series : Ziprecruiter.com/shadows *Disclaimer : This production has no affiliation with Netflix*

Sep 25, 2018
Sister Cathy Cesnik, Part 1 : In The Beginning
00:57:50

Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters in this new podcast series about the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, featured on Netflix's Docs-Series 'The Keepers'. On this episode you are introduced to the series and hear the very first conversation Shane and Gemma shared about the docu-series, murder, and abuse from the beginning of 2017. Join us for discussion on our facebook group 'Out of the Shadows Discussion Group' - you can submit questions or topics you'd like us to explore by joining this group or emailing us (Shane@ShadowsPod.com) Support our show on Patreon by going to Patreon.com/theshadowspod Follow us on Facebook at facebook.com/theshadows pod Twitter : @theshadowspod Sponsorship for this series : Ziprecruiter.com/shadows *Disclaimer : This production has no affiliation with Netflix*

Sep 17, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 9 : The End of the Road
01:01:43

Join Shane and Gemma as they discuss the final victim of the Redhead Murders, Summarize what we know so far, and end the series with a very promising update and lead! Visit us at Shadowspod.com to learn more about this case. You can find an interactive map of these murders at Shadowspod.com/red. To support our show please visit our Patreon by searching for Out of the Shadows.

Sep 09, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 8: Where it All Started
00:29:04

Shane discusses the very first victim thought to be linked to the Redhead Murders found in Wetzel County, West Virginia. Also in on the discussion is grass roots amateur investigator featured on Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' - Gemma Hoskins, along with Kayla Vandeventer who was a student in Teacher Alex's high school sociology class featured previously in the series. Could a trucker navigate the winding road this Jane Doe was found off of? Could this victim be related although she was older than all the others? With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod Visit our interactive map on the Redhead Murders at ShadowsPod.com/red Sponsors: ZipRecruiter - ZipRecruiter.com/Shadows HIMS (Hairloss) - ForHims.com/Crimecast HIMS (ED) - ForHims.com/CrimecastED

Jul 19, 2018
Bonus Episode: My Family's Tragedy
00:38:13

Today is Father's day, so I wanted to share with you a special story about a tragedy that happened in my own family. On November 14, 1979, my dad was hit by a drunk driver - after 42 days in a coma he defied the doctors and woke up. My dad, and my family, were never the same again - but the question remains on if some things happen for a reason. If my dad was never in this horrific accident, I never would have been born.

Jun 19, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 7: The Killer's Drive
00:36:31

Join Shane as he drives the same route the Bible Belt Strangler took after he picked up the Redheaded Jane Doe from King's Truck Stop In Barbourville, Kentucky. You will also hear about the stories of two other redheaded women who were almost kidnapped around the same place and time as our murder victim. Are they related or is it a coincidence? With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod

May 30, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 6: The Press Conference
00:38:23

Shane travels again to Elizabethton, Tennessee, to join the high school sociology class at a press conference to tell the world about the Redhead Murders and the Bible Belt Strangler. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod

May 20, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 5; Bible Belt Strangler strikes in Barbourville, Kentucky.
00:45:46

Join Shane as he travels to Barbourville, Kentucky to trace the steps the Bible Belt Strangler made when he killed an innocent victim along 25E. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod

May 13, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 4; The Bible Belt Strangler
00:57:48

Traveling to Elizabethton, Tennessee, Shane speaks with a Sociology class at Elizabethton High School about the Redhead Murders. This semester they have been challenged by their teacher to study and report on the Redhead Murders. After discovering my podcast, I traveled to their school to hear about the work they have done so far. On this episode, you hear from these students as they read to you their 8-page Profile of the person responsible for these murders. To express that we all do believe that these six women were victims of a serial killer, I challenged the class to give him a name. The Bible Belt Strangler. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod

May 01, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 3; I Have a Name
00:44:13

In our third installment in the series on the Redhead Murders, you hear from a young lady that believes the Jane Doe found murdered inside a fridge in 1985 Barbourville, Kentucky, is her mother. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod

Apr 21, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 2; Gemma Hoskins
00:40:40

This is the second episode in our series on the Redhead Murders. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Shane visits the site where the victim covered in episode one was found, and Gemma Hoskins joins the podcast to help find answers to who these women are and who is responsible for their murders. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod

Apr 04, 2018
Redhead Murders, Part 1; There is a Serial Killer
00:26:12

With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. This introduction episode will tell you a little about the Redhead Murders, which was investigated by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) initially thirty years ago. This episode introduces the only victim whose identity is known, Lisa Nichols. Lisa was 28 at the time of her murder and was originally from West Virginia. There is no publicly shared photo of Lisa, and not much is known about her life and past. Check out our website to learn more at ShadowsPod.com You can support the show by going to Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion: Twitter: @TheShadowsPod Facebook: Facebook.com/TheShadowsPod Facebook Discussion: "Out of the Shadows Discussion Group" Instagram: @TheShadowsPod

Mar 11, 2018
'The Keepers' search for Kelly 'The box girl', Part 2
00:13:34

If you haven't listened to the first episode Gemma Hoskins and I created two weeks ago, please go back and listen before listening to this! This is an important update to hear, after our search for the lead on the box of evidence in Sister Cathy's murder. "The Keepers" is a Netflix Documentary series that Gemma Hoskins is featured in as one of the two grassroots amateur detectives who refuses to let the murder of Sister Cathy die from the public eye. Disclaimer: This podcast episode has no affiliation with Tripod Media or Netflix Visit us online at ShadowsPod.com You can support our show at Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Follow and interact with us: Twitter - @TheShadowsPod Facebook - @TheShadowsPod Instagram - @TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion on our private facebook group: Out of the Shadows Discussion Group

Feb 17, 2018
'The Keepers' search for Kelly 'The box girl', Part 1
00:27:14

Shane teams up with Gemma Hoskins, featured on 'The Keepers', to find Kelly 'the box girl'. Visit us online at ShadowsPod.com Check out Shane's True Crime blog 'My Journey into Darkness' at ShadowsPod.com/TCBlog You can support our show at Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Follow and interact with us: Twitter - @TheShadowsPod Facebook - @TheShadowsPod Instagram - @TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion on our private facebook group: Out of the Shadows Discussion Group

Feb 04, 2018
Marie Spannhake
00:25:58

Marie was 18 years old when she went missing, she was last seen wearing a sweater and blue jeans. She and her fiance had gone to an indoor flea market at Eagles Hall in Chico, CA, on January 31, 1976. It was there that an argument ensued between the two. Marie decided that she was going to go home, before leaving the market she stopped to ask for directions as she wasn’t very familiar with the area. Marie would then set out alone, on foot, walking down the side of a Chico street. That would be the last time anyone ever saw Marie again. That is until a lady comes forward years later with a crazy story about abduction, rape, torture, and murder. Join us on this episode as we discuss this case fully, with narration performed by Justin Rimmel. Visit us online at ShadowsPod.com You can support our show at Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Follow and interact with us: Twitter - @TheShadowsPod Facebook - @TheShadowsPod Instagram - @TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion on our private facebook group: Out of the Shadows Discussion Group

Nov 01, 2017
Alvira Johnson and her 7 Children
00:19:16

Early Tuesday morning on April 10th, 1933, freshly fallen snow surrounds Johnson's farmhouse in Chisago County, Minnesota. The dark night air is chilly, and outside the house is a flatbed truck packed full of the family's belongings. Later this day the family is going to move into a new home... at least that was the plan. This is the story of the death of Alvira Johnson and her 7 children, and the disappearance and manhunt of her husband Albin. Visit us online at ShadowsPod.com You can support our show at Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Follow and interact with us: Twitter - @TheShadowsPod Facebook - @TheShadowsPod Instagram - @TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion on our private facebook group: Out of the Shadows Discussion Group

Oct 12, 2017
'Septic Tank Sam'
00:10:29

{American Crimecast Archived Episode} April 13, 1977 - Tofield, Alberta, Canada. Charlie and his wife Mavis McLeod decided today they will start installing a new septic tank on their rural property. The sky was clear, the sun was bright, and the temperature was a warm 64.4 degrees Fahrenheit - a perfect day for such a project. Until they find human remains in the old septic tank. **DISCLAIMER: This episode features graphic detail that may not be suited for all audiences. Listener discretion is strongly advised.** Visit us online at ShadowsPod.com Check out Shane's True Crime blog 'My Journey into Darkness' at ShadowsPod.com/TCBlog You can support our show at Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Follow and interact with us: Twitter - @TheShadowsPod Facebook - @TheShadowsPod Instagram - @TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion on our private facebook group: Out of the Shadows Discussion Group Sponsorship: Ziprecruiter.com/Shadows

Oct 03, 2017
Special Episode: Mid-1800s Serial Killer
00:48:09

While exploring an old museum in Wabash, Indiana - Shane discovers the old basement holds a secret. Join Shane as he sits down with a Historian to discuss why there is a box in the basement of the Wabash County Historical Museum that is full of the bones of a mid-1800s serial killer. This episode was recorded at the Wabash County Historical Museum in Wabash, Indiana. Visit their website at WabashMuseum.org. Visit us online at ShadowsPod.com You can support our show at Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Follow and interact with us: Twitter - @TheShadowsPod Facebook - @TheShadowsPod Instagram - @TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion on our private facebook group: Out of the Shadows Discussion Group

Sep 18, 2017
Catherine Winters : One of the Oldest Unsolved Missing Person Cases in the US
00:41:16

Catherine Winters was only nine years old when she disappeared from her hometown of New Castle, Indiana on March 20th, 1913. Catherine's disappearance remains the oldest Unsolved Disappearance in the state of Indiana, as well as one of the oldest in the United States. Featuring Author Lisa Perry. Visit us online at ShadowsPod.com You can support our show at Patreon.com/TheShadowsPod Follow and interact with us: Twitter - @TheShadowsPod Facebook - @TheShadowsPod Instagram - @TheShadowsPod Join in on the discussion on our private facebook group: Out of the Shadows Discussion Group

Mar 23, 2017