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Join our host, Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, as she chronicles the career changes that can come at any age in our podcast, Second Life.

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Emma Grede: Good American Co-Founder + CEO

Emma Grede is the CEO and co-founder of Good American, the hugely successful, size-inclusive fashion brand that she started with none other than Khloé Kardashian. But starting this business wasn't the first time Grede struck out on her own. She'd long been making a name for herself in the fashion and entertainment industries on the business side of things and had already checked starting a company off her list. "I am a person who can sell anything, and I think I just had that naturally," she tells Hillary Kerr on today's episode of Second Life

Originally broadcasted on September 24, 2018.

Aug 19, 2019
Ellen Bennett: Hedley & Bennett Founder and CEO

If anyone has mastered the art of the hustle, it's Ellen Bennett. The entrepreneurial powerhouse behind Hedley & Bennett, a Los Angeles–based chef wear and handcrafted apron company, started her own business at age 24 while working as a line cook at not one but two prestigious restaurants in L.A. "I was permanently running on adrenaline, and I loved it," she tells Hillary Kerr. Now, she's outfitting top chefs around the world, including the likes of Martha Stewart, Jamie Oliver, Jon Shook, and Vinny Dotolo.

Originally broadcasted on September 10, 2018.

Aug 12, 2019
Aurora James: Brother Vellies Founder and Creative Director

There was a time when Aurora James never thought she'd have a seat at the proverbial table. Now, after dipping her toes in multiple industries, she's at the helm of the sustainable fashion company Brother Vellies and is proof that if you have a goal, you can make it happen, even if that means finding a new way of getting there. "I always knew that I wanted to work in fashion. I just knew that fashion wasn't working for me in a way that I needed it to," she tells us. 

Originally broadcasted on August 8, 2018. 

Aug 05, 2019
Jen Atkin: "The World's Most Influential Hairstylist"

In an updated and extended interview from our very first episode, Hillary sits down with Jen Atkin, celebrity stylist and founder of cult haircare line Ouai. Dubbed the "most influential hairstylist in the world" by The New York Times, Atkin counts Bella Hadid, Chrissy Teigen, and Kendall Jenner as clients. Here, she gets candid about the power of social media, reflects on her journey from salon apprentice to CEO of a thriving business, and explains why mental toughness is the most underrated quality.

This extended episode has an additional 20 minutes of previously unreleased audio from when it first aired on February 19, 2018.

Jul 29, 2019
Anine Bing: Founder & Chief Creative Officer of Anine Bing

Anine Bing launched her successful clothing and accessories line in 2012, but her days once revolved around modeling, music, and blogging. Listen to the story of her career pivots on this week's episode. 

Jul 22, 2019
Jennifer Meyer: Jewelry Designer and Founder of Jennifer Meyer Jewelry

Jennifer Meyer’s career has taken a non-linear path that went from psychology to fashion editorial to PR before she founded her now wildly popular jewelry brand. Listen to her story on Second Life.

Jul 15, 2019
Lauren Kleban: Celebrity Trainer and Founder of LEKFit

Lauren Kleban started out as a professional dancer and now runs L.A.’s popular LEKFit workout studio. Hear about her career journey and what’s next for her company on Second Life.

Jul 08, 2019
Life Lessons | Anastasia Soare: Anastasia Beverly Hills Founder and CEO

When Anastasia Soare immigrated to Los Angeles from her native Romania in the early ’90s, she had no idea she’d someday change the way we collectively groom our brows. But after attending aesthetician school and getting a job at a salon on Melrose Place, she noticed that her facial clients weren’t taking proper care of their brows. Sensing a white space, she eventually launched her own salon where she dedicated herself to shaping brows of A-list clients. On this episode of Life Lessons, she’s talking us through how she ended up launching a full-on empire complete with a best-selling product line you’ve definitely heard of: Anastasia Beverly Hills.

Jul 03, 2019
Paige Adams-Geller: Paige Founder and Creative Director

Paige Adams-Geller was a fit model and actress before founding lifestyle and denim brand Paige in 2004. The brand now has a global presence and a slew of celebrity fans.

Jul 01, 2019
Life Lessons | Laura Vassar: Brock Collection Co-Founder

Laura Vassar has spent most of her life crafting beautiful ready-to-wear, a passion that began in high school when she learned to sew and designed her own prom dress. She met her future husband (and business partner) Kristopher Brock while studying at Parsons in New York City, and the rest is history: Their brand Brock Collection is now stocked at fine department stores and on big-time sites like Net-a-Porter and Moda Operandi. On this week’s episode of Life Lessons, she’s offering up advice for aspiring designers and explaining what it’s really like to work in fashion.

Jun 26, 2019
Nancy Twine: Briogeo Founder and CEO

Nancy Twine went from working at Goldman Sachs to becoming the founder and CEO of clean, buzzy haircare brand Briogeo. Find out how she did it on Second Life.

Jun 24, 2019
Life Lessons | Molly McNearney: Jimmy Kimmel Live! Co–Head Writer

When Molly McNearney arrived in Los Angeles and landed an interview to work as an assistant producer at Jimmy Kimmel Live, she jumped at the chance (although she admits she had no idea who Kimmel was at the time). The job wasn’t glamorous, but the initiative she showed in those early days led to other opportunities on the show. She worked her way up the ranks and into the writers’ room, eventually earning her current status as head writer. On this week’s Life Lessons episode, McNearney offers up advice for aspiring writers.

Jun 19, 2019
Whitney Tingle: Sakara Co-Founder and Co-CEO

Whitney Tingle went from working on Wall Street to co-founding Sakara Life, the go-to meal-delivery service of celebrities like Chrissy Teigen. Hear about her journey from finance to wellness on Second Life.

Jun 17, 2019
Life Lessons | Mercedes Abramo: Cartier North America President and CEO

Mercedes Abramo, president and CEO of Cartier North America, has never been one to avoid taking risks or making moves. In fact, her career as a businesswoman has taken her all over the world, from the Ritz Carlton in Maui to business school in Paris to a stint at Tiffany & Co. in New York City before landing her at Cartier, where she worked her way all the way up the ladder. Tune in to this week’s Life Lessons episode as she chats with Hillary and offers up insights on expanding your skill set, learning how to be a manager, and learning how to decide when it’s time to move on to a new opportunity.

Jun 12, 2019
Ariel Kaye: Parachute Founder and CEO

Ariel Kaye started her career in PR and digital advertising. Now she’s the founder and CEO of Parachute , the wildly popular direct-to-consumer bedding and bath company. Hear the incredible story of her career on Second Life.

Jun 10, 2019
Life Lessons | Gregg Renfrew: Beautycounter Founder and CEO

Gregg Renfrew has been an entrepreneur practically all her life… She started her own business cleaning summer homes when she was in college at the University of Vermont, she founded The Wedding List soon after she graduated (and later sold it to Martha Stewart!), and eventually she founded her current business, Beautycounter, which will be familiar to most of our listeners as a company that transformed the way we think about the ingredients we slather onto our skin. Tune in to Life Lessons for her wise words on collaboration, knowing when to cut your losses, and explain what compelled her interest in natural, nontoxic products.

Jun 05, 2019
Michelle Pfeiffer: Actor, Producer, and Founder of Henry Rose

In addition to her prolific acting career, Michelle Pfeiffer recently created a clean fragrance line called Henry Rose. Listen to her story and learn about her new venture on Second Life.

Jun 03, 2019
Life Lessons | Tamara Mellon: Designer, Founder, and Fashion Entrepreneur

When Tamara Mellon started working at Brown’s in London at age 18, she never could have imagined that the experience would someday lead to working at British Vogue, co-founding Jimmy Choo, becoming a designer in her own right, and eventually starting her own eponymous label. On this week’s episode of Life Lessons, Mellon swings by to deliver important advice for entrepreneurs, explain what it’s really like working in fashion, and give us some insights into the game-changing model she’s adopted at her own company.

May 29, 2019
Katherine Power: Who What Wear and Versed Founder and CEO

Katherine Power moved to L.A. on her own at 16 to be a professional dancer. Now, she’s the co-founder and CEO of Who What Wear while also leading its namesake clothing line at Target and new skincare line, Versed. Listen to the story of her fascinating career on Second Life.

May 27, 2019
Life Lessons | Jenni Konner: Showrunner, Producer, Writer, and Director

Jenni Konner always knew she wanted to work in entertainment, but she didn’t necessarily know that she’d find herself executive-producing one of the most talked-about TV shows of our time. On this week’s episode of Life Lessons, find out how Konner found her way to Girls (which she ran alongside Lena Dunham) after spending time in writing rooms on shows like Undeclared and Help Me Help You, and discover valuable lessons she’s learned along the way.

May 22, 2019
Kathryn Duryea: Year & Day Founder and CEO

After working as a special assistant at the White House, then in brand marketing for companies like Tiffany & Co., Kathryn Duryea started Year & Day, which is shaking up the tableware space with its chic, minimal plates, flatware, and glasses.

May 20, 2019
Life Lessons | Karla Welch: Hollywood Stylist, Designer, and Founder of X Karla

Karla Welch is the in-demand stylist behind some of the biggest names in entertainment, from Justin Bieber to Tracee Ellis Ross to Elisabeth Moss. In the first episode of the Life Lessons series, listen to how she got her start in the industry, ramping her way up from scrappy shoots to working on Apple’s memorably iPod commercials and eventually taking on clients as a personal stylist. She’s had a serious effect on celebrity fashion, and she’s also changing the way we get dressed by way of her cool, in-demand collaborations with brands like Levi’s and Hanes.

May 15, 2019
Erica Chidi Cohen: Loom Co-Founder and CEO, Doula, and Author

Erica Chidi Cohen is the co-founder and CEO of Loom, the Los Angeles–based empowered education and wellness center that focuses on everything from periods to parenting. In the latest episode of Second Life, listen to how she parlayed a background in the culinary and fine art worlds into becoming a doula and eventually co-founding Loom, where she’s helping people truly understand their bodies in a feminist, inclusive, sex-positive, and fact-based way.

May 13, 2019
Reshma Saujani: Girls Who Code Founder & CEO, Author, and Activist

Reshma Saujani once had political aspirations, even becoming the first Indian American woman to run for Congress. Now, she's the CEO and founder of Girls Who Code, a nonprofit that aims to close the gender gap in technology. Learn about her inspiring career path on Second Life.

May 06, 2019
Sarah Gibson Tuttle: Olive & June Founder and CEO

What happens when you leave an established finance career in NYC to open a nail salon in Los Angeles? Olive and June founder Sarah Gibson Tuttle has some answers. She had spent 10 years working as an equity sales trader at JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley when she noticed a white space in the beauty industry. Listen to Second Life to hear her story.

Apr 29, 2019
Sarah Lee: Glow Recipe Co-Founder and Co-CEO

Korean skincare expert and Glow Recipe co-founder Sarah Lee spent years in the corporate beauty world at L'Oreal Paris before making the leap to start her own company, which has created cult products that have sold out numerous times on Sephora. Learn about her fascinating career journey on the newest episode of Second Life.

Apr 22, 2019
Lykke Li: Singer, Songwriter, and Yola Mezcal Co-Founder

Swedish singer-songwriter Lykke Li has more on her plate than just her music career. In the newest episode of Second Life, she tells Hillary Kerr about co-founding an all-female mezcal brand called Yola Mezcal, which aims to economically empower women in Oaxaca.

Apr 15, 2019
Shay Mitchell: Actress, Author, Producer, and Entrepreneur

Acting on not one but two hit shows may be satisfying enough for some, but Pretty Little Liars and You star Shay Mitchell is determined to pursue a variety of other interests. She's already written a YA novel and has developed a successful YouTube lifestyle channel, but now she's pivoting once again to travel entrepreneurship.

Apr 08, 2019
LIVE! From SXSW With Liz Lambert: Bunkhouse Group Hotelier

How does one go from a job in the district attorney's office to a career as a hotelier running some of the coolest hotels in the U.S. and Mexico? Austin-based hotelier Liz Lambert, who runs the impossibly Instagram-worthy Hotel San Cristóbal in Todos Santos, among other properties, sits down with Hillary Kerr to share her journey from Manhattan to Texas and beyond.

Apr 01, 2019
Jessica Yellin: Journalist, Author, and Former CNN Chief White House Correspondent

Where do you get your news? If Jessica Yellin's Instagram isn't at the top of your list, it will be soon. The former chief White House correspondent for CNN and founder of #NewsNotNoise tells Second Life how she took her Emmy-winning reporting skills to both social media and book publishing.

Mar 25, 2019
Sophia Roe: Chef, Wellness Expert, and Content Creator

Sophia Roe's passion for food and wellness started as a distraction from her tough childhood. Growing up with parents who were substance abusers and eventually ending up in the foster care system, Roe found comfort and stability in both food and music. In the new episode of Second Life, Roe tells Hillary Kerr about overcoming unconventional beginnings, dropping out of college twice, and becoming a chef, wellness expert, and thought leader.

Mar 18, 2019
Veronica Swanson Beard & Veronica Miele Beard: Veronica Beard Co-Founders

Armed with experience in finance and fashion buying, respectively, sisters-in-law Veronica Miele Beard and Veronica Swanson Beard started their fashion brand with a single jacket style and no business plan. A decade later, they have a successful label with seven brick-and-mortar stores. Here, they speak about working with a business partner, learning to trust your gut, and the question Anna Wintour asked them.

Mar 11, 2019
Susan Tynan: Framebridge Founder and CEO

All of our guests have changed careers at some point, but Susan Tynan's path took several different turns on her way to raising $67 million in venture financing for Framebridge, a quick and affordable custom framing site. The founder and CEO, a Harvard Business School graduate, shares advice on how to accept "no" in your career, how to run a business ethically, and how to lift women up.

Mar 04, 2019
Nancy Silverton: Celebrity Chef, Restaurateur, and Author

It started with a crush. Renowned chef, restaurant owner, and author Nancy Silverton first developed an interest in the food industry because she had a crush on a student cook at the dining hall of her college dorm and convinced him to hire her in the kitchen. Learn how she went from being a pastry chef to running her own empire and winning the food industry's highest honor.

Feb 25, 2019
Raissa Gerona: Revolve Chief Brand Officer

L.A.-based retailer Revolve paved the way for influencer trips that now take over your Instagram feed, and Raissa Gerona is the brains behind the site's innovative strategy. Early in her career, she dealt with her parents' disapproval of her career path and a business failure, but you can bet she learned a thing or two on her way to becoming Revolve's chief brand officer.

Feb 18, 2019
Sara & Erin Foster: Bumble Heads of Creative

Erin and Sara Foster are nothing if not honest. In the newest episode of Second Life, the sisters get real about feeling in over their heads, pursuing careers that paid the bills but weren't fulfilling, and regretting not going to college. Whether you know the Fosters from their parody-reality show on VH1, Barely Famous, or from their current positions as the heads of creative at Bumble, you'll learn a whole new side to the sisters.

Feb 11, 2019
Shiona Turini: Stylist and Costume Designer

Shiona Turini has the résumé that anyone with a dream of working in fashion envies. In episode 50 of Second Life, she shares what she learned cutting her teeth at the industry's major print magazines before fearlessly moving into freelance styling and finally transitioning into costume design for HBO's acclaimed tv series Insecure.

Feb 04, 2019
Sierra Tishgart: Great Jones Co-Founder

Everyone has interests outside of work, but not everyone knows how to turn their side hustle into a successful business. But it's safe to say that Sierra Tishgart, co-founder of cookware brand Great Jones, knows a thing or two about the transition. In the newest episode of Second Life, Tishgart tells Hillary Kerr how she went from being a Teen Vogue intern to becoming an entrepreneur in home cookware.

Jan 28, 2019
Kendra Scott: Designer and CEO

How do you go from being a hat maker to running a billion-dollar jewelry brand? In episode 48 of Second Life, Kendra Scott tells Hillary Kerr about the embarrassment of dropping out of college, learning retail "the hardest way possible," and how she transitioned from running a hat store to creating one of the most successful jewelry brands on the market.

Jan 21, 2019
Hannah Bronfman: HBFit Founder, DJ, and Author

Like many of us, Hannah Bronfman's most valuable college experience came from outside the classroom. Bronfman successfully pivoted from being a sculpture major to becoming fashion's favorite DJ and wellness master. In episode 47 of Second Life, Bronfman tells Hillary Kerr how she's learned to cope with the failure of a business venture, understand her worth, and inspire fans to lead a healthier, happier life.

Jan 14, 2019
Aimee Song: Fashion Blogger, Influencer, and Author

Aimee Song's rise to fashion blogger stardom is a lesson in what you can accomplish by following your passions. The fashion guru behind Song of Style got her start working as a receptionist at a construction company right out of high school while saving up money to pay her own college tuition. It was there that she got her first taste for architecture and design and decided to go to school at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. However, one job interview changed everything. "I got the job because of my outfit," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 46 of Second Life.

Jan 07, 2019
Jamie Kantrowitz: Countertop Foods Co-Founder and CEO

Jamie Kantrowitz co-founded Countertop with Nicole Rice based on the goal of helping people focus on wellness through simple and delicious home cooking. Today, the duo sells a variety of products from seasonings to honey, all meant to enhance both the flavor and nutritiousness of your food. But before all this, Kantrowitz was following a very different career path. She spent her twenties working in politics and digital media at companies like Rock the Vote and Myspace. "Even though I've jumped industries, there are common threads that go through it," the entrepreneur tells Hillary Kerr on episode 45 of Second Life.

Dec 31, 2018
Jennifer Lopez: Actress, Singer, Producer, and Icon, With Producer and Writer Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas

Everybody knows that before Jennifer Lopez was the multihyphenate superstar she is today, she was Jenny from the block. But most people don’t know how she made the leap from a dancer to an actor to a singer to an icon. “I always knew from a very young age that I loved performing,” Lopez tells Hillary Kerr on episode 44 of Second Life. With the help of Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas (then her agent, now a producer), who’s had a few career swaps of her own, J.Lo catapulted herself to international success. Lopez’s philosophy for mastering the pivot? “If you feel like you need to move, move.” Find out how both women paved their own paths.

Dec 24, 2018
Kerry O'Brien: Commando Founder and CEO

Kerry O'Brien never could have anticipated that her career in public relations would lead her to become an underwear designer, but that's exactly what happened. The entrepreneur started out in corporate PR, quickly making her way up the ranks (she was a vice president at just 25 years old). However, when September 11 happened, she felt like she needed a change. She quit her job without a plan, but it wasn't long before she found her next passion: women's underwear.

Dec 17, 2018
Carla Hall: Chef, TV Personality, and Cookbook Author

Carla Hall was always a creative, but before competing on Top Chef, authoring cookbooks, and starring on The Chew, she was auditing at a big accounting firm and pursuing modeling in Europe. When she returned home from Europe—where she'd also taken up cooking—she stumbled into her own lunch delivery service that parlayed itself into catering, culinary school, and her rise to foodie fame. "It was really an adventure," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 42 of Second Life

Dec 10, 2018
Meredith Melling: La Ligne Co-Founder

Meredith Melling is proof that landing your dream job isn't the end of your career path. In fact, it might even just be the beginning. Melling always wanted to work in fashion, and with a bit of luck, good timing, and the smart decision to dress for the job she wanted, not the job she had, she landed the coveted title of a fashion assistant at Vogue early in her career. But that was only the start of her journey toward creating her own consulting business and co-founding fashion brand La Ligne.

Dec 03, 2018
Ty Haney: Outdoor Voices Founder and CEO

Tyler Haney knows activewear. She was raised in Boulder, Colorado—a town known for its outdoor activities—and grew up running track and field. With a few courses in business and design under her belt paired with the desire to create a sporty uniform for recreational activity, Haney eventually became the CEO and founder of her own brand, Outdoor Voices. However, her journey was filled with challenges and missteps that she looks back on as lessons learned.

Nov 26, 2018
Christina Tosi: Milk Bar Founder and CEO

Before Christina Tosi started Milk Bar—the trendy bakery known for its covetable, playful desserts—she was studying math and Italian in college with dreams of becoming a mathematician, a UN translator, or a perhaps a truck driver (yes, really). "I like to be uncomfortable," the entrepreneur tells Hillary Kerr on episode 39 of Second Life. Drawn to restaurant life with a passion for baking, Tosi moved on from her mathematical endeavors to pursue cooking at culinary school and (with a lot of hard work) went on to found her very own wildly successful bakery. Here's how she made it happen.

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Nov 19, 2018
Cyndi Ramirez-Fulton: Chillhouse Founder

If you've ever visited NYC's trendy new spa-salon-café hybrid, Chillhouseyou can already appreciate the way Cyndi Ramirez-Fulton is cashing in on the wellness industry one adaptogen latte and hangover-curing massage at a time. The "destination for modern self-care," as she describes it, is stylish, relaxing, and affordable—not to mention incredibly Instagram-friendly. But Fulton wasn't always involved in the wellness world, though. In fact, she dropped out of college to work in the nightlife world promoting clubs before ever landing her first desk job.

Nov 12, 2018
Eva Chen: Instagram's Director of Fashion Partnerships

Eva Chen's résumé reads like the front row of a well-stocked magazine stand. She's held jobs at publications like Harper's Bazaar, Elle, Teen Vogue, and Lucky (where she was editor in chief, no less). Although landing a job as editor in chief of a major publication sounds like the peak of one's career, Chen was just getting started. Now, she's catapulted to director of fashion partnerships for Instagram, has written her first book (a children's story called Juno Valentine and the Magical Shoes), and is trying her hand at design with the launch of a capsule collection with Janie and Jack in conjunction with her book.

Nov 05, 2018
Kerry Diamond: Cherry Bombe Co-Founder and Smith Canteen Owner

Kerry Diamond has been starting businesses since she was in the third grade launching a school newspaper. "I am very fortunate in that I knew from a very early age what I wanted to do," she tells Hillary Kerr in episode 36 of Second Life. Although she started out in hard journalism, the entrepreneur pivoted to the beauty space and catapulted from beauty director at Harper's Bazaar to head of PR at Lancôme. All before striking out on her own to co-found Cherry Bombe, a biannual indie magazine that celebrates women in the food world.

Oct 29, 2018
Busy Philipps: Actress, Author and TV Host

Busy Philipps always knew she would be an actress. In fact, she was studying theater in college when she landed her first major role as Kim Kelly on the coming-of-age hit Freaks and Geeks. While she found success early on at the age of 19, her career hasn't been without setbacks, rejection, and grit. "I never have really fit into a lot of people's molds," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 35 of Second Life. But Philipps persevered in a male-dominated industry fraught with unrealistic expectations to come out the other side more sure of herself than ever.

Oct 22, 2018
Amber Lewis: Amber Interiors Owner, Designer, and Blogger

Interior designer Amber Lewis, the force behind Amber Interiors, is proof that you don't necessarily need a college degree or a straightforward career path to find success. With just a few semesters in an interior design program at UCLA, Lewis found work as an assistant at an interior design firm, and eventually branched out on her own. At the same time, the creative was getting married to a musician, having her first child, and taking every opportunity that came her way. "I was a perfect storm of...luck, talent, and timing," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 34 of Second Life.

Oct 15, 2018
Amanda Hesser: Food52 Co-Founder and CEO

Amanda Hesser is responsible for the chic e-commerce and community site Food52, which she launched with co-founder Merrill Stubbs in 2009. Before she struck out on her own, the foodie had a thriving career as an editor for The New York Times and as a cookbook author, both unexpected paths seeing as the entrepreneur studied economics and finance in college. "I had no idea really what I wanted to do, but I knew the sort of lifestyle I wanted," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 33 of Second Life. Here's how she made the leap from cooking to writing to running her own company.

Oct 08, 2018
Rosie O'Neill: Sugarfina Co-Founder and Co-CEO

If you've given or received a gift in the last six years, you've probably heard of Sugarfina, the luxury candy brand made for grown-ups. The champagne gummy bears and other adult-friendly candies wouldn't exist had it not been for Rosie O'Niell and a particularly good date she went on to see Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory with her now business partner and fiancé, Josh Resnick. Prior to starting her own whimsical venture, O'Niell was working in brand management at Mattel for Barbie. "When I did eventually step away and start Sugarfina, it's like I knew how to do it and I didn't even realize I knew how to do it," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 30 of Second Life.

Oct 01, 2018
Emma Grede: Good American Co-Founder and CEO

Emma Grede is the CEO and co-founder of Good American, the hugely successful, size-inclusive fashion brand that she started with none other than Khloé Kardashian. But starting this business wasn't the first time Grede struck out on her own. She'd long been making a name for herself in the fashion and entertainment industries on the business side of things and had already checked starting a company off her list. "I am a person who can sell anything, and I think I just had that naturally," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 29 of Second Life

Sep 24, 2018
Norah Weinstein and Kelly Sawyer Patricof: Baby2Baby Co-Presidents

Kelly Sawyer Patricof and Norah Weinstein, co-presidents of the nonprofit Baby2Baby, met on a blind date. Well, a double blind date with their husbands, orchestrated by Patricof's father-in-law. Since then, Patricof and Weinstein married their passion for helping others with their unique backgrounds in fashion and law to head up operations at Baby2Baby—an organization that started with just three women collecting donations for local families in need that has since blossomed into a wildly successful nonprofit backed by some of the coolest moms in Hollywood. 

Sep 17, 2018
Ellen Bennett: Hedley & Bennett Founder and CEO

If anyone has mastered the art of the hustle, it's Ellen Bennett. The entrepreneurial powerhouse behind Hedley & Bennett, a Los Angeles–based chef wear and handcrafted apron company, started her own business at age 24 while working as a line cook at not one but two prestigious restaurants in L.A. "I was permanently running on adrenaline, and I loved it," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 29 of Second Life. Now, she's outfitting top chefs around the world, including the likes of Martha Stewart, Jamie Oliver, Jon Shook, and Vinny Dotolo.

Sep 10, 2018
Emily Henderson: Home Style Expert and Design Guru

Emily Henderson is proof that when you're passionate about something, you can turn it into a thriving career—no matter what you studied in college or where you started out. “I learned on the job and I think it’s a very good way to start and build your career," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 28 of Second Life. Find out how Henderson went from being a prop stylist to running a design blog and getting her own show on HGTV without any traditional design or business education.

Aug 27, 2018
Jaclyn Johnson: Create & Cultivate Founder and CEO

When Jaclyn Johnson held the first Create & Cultivate conference in 2011 out of a desire to form a community of like-minded, creative women, she viewed it as a passion project, not a business. In fact, she still had a full-time gig running her own company at the time. "You have to have irons in the fire, and you've got to see what burns," she explains to Hillary Kerr on episode 27 of Second Life. That's how Johnson turned her side hustle into a thriving business that supports more women achieve their goals.

Aug 20, 2018
Shani Darden: Celebrity Esthetician

Shani Darden is a name that rolls off the tongue of celebrities like Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, Jessica Alba, and Chrissy Teigen when they talk about their skincare. Now an expert esthetician with a client list that reads like a who's who of Hollywood, Darden wasn't always sure of her career path. In fact, she first moved to Los Angeles from her small town with dreams of becoming a model (and she has a Destiny's Child music video credit to prove it). "I just think it was one of those things where it took me so long to realize, like, oh, this is what I'm supposed to do," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 26 of Second Life.

Aug 13, 2018
Aurora James: Brother Vellies Founder

There was a time when Aurora James never thought she'd have a seat at the proverbial table. Now, after dipping her toes in multiple industries, she's at the helm of the sustainable fashion company Brother Vellies and is proof that if you have a goal, you can make it happen, even if that means finding a new way of getting there. "I always knew that I wanted to work in fashion. I just knew that fashion wasn't working for me in a way that I needed it to," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 25 of Second Life.

Aug 06, 2018
Linda Wells: Flesh Beauty Founder and Revlon Chief Creative Officer

When Linda Wells landed her first job as an editorial assistant in the beauty department of Vogue, she didn't have so much as a five-year-plan. She admits she could never have planned how her professional life—beauty editor turned editor in chief of a new magazine (a little publication called Allure) turned chief creative officer of Revlon and creator of the cosmetics line Flesh—would have turned out. On episode 24 of Second Life, Wells dishes about how she leaned into challenges and major changes to build the impressive career she has today.

Jul 30, 2018
Brooklyn Decker and Whitney Casey: Finery Co-Founders

Former broadcast journalist Whitney Casey and model-turned-actress Brooklyn Decker know something you don't. You spend years of your life—10 to be exact—picking out clothes to wear and to pack for all of life's many occasions. After identifying a massive white space in clothing and tech space, Casey and Decker figured out a way to give that precious time back to people with a seriously smart app called Finery. On episode 23 of Second Life, the two share how they turned one brilliant idea into a thriving company (without any formal business school or training).

Jul 23, 2018
Alli Webb: Drybar Founder

People with curly and straight hair alike know the power of a good blowout. It was this simple idea that catapulted Alli Webb from former hairstylist and stay-at-home mom to the haircare maven behind Drybar, the blow-dry bar that specializes in blowouts. Before discovering this untapped market in L.A., Webb honed her craft at beauty school on the East Coast, pivoted to a career in PR, and eventually found her way back to hair, where it all began. "It was just a whim and a hunch," Webb tells Hillary Kerr on episode 22 of Second Life.

Jul 16, 2018
Andrea Lieberman: A.L.C. Founder and Designer

Andrea Lieberman knew that she was meant to work in fashion ever since she moved to Manhattan at age 13. "I realized at a very early age that I just found what I was meant to do," she tells Hillary Kerr in episode 21 of Second Life. Lieberman parlayed her passion for the fashion industry, an education from Parson's School of Design, and over 10 years experience as a celebrity stylist to eventually launch her own line A.L.C. 

Jul 09, 2018
April Gargiulo: Vintner's Daughter Founder

Not everyone is lucky enough to stumble upon a career they're passionate about early in life. For April Gargiulo, the founder of skincare company Vinter's Daughter, it took three college degrees, stints in the design world, and time spent working for the family wine business for her to truly find her calling, and she's just getting started. Despite her untraditional path, she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 20 of Second Life, "There's nothing I would have done differently."

Jul 02, 2018
Lauren Conrad: Entrepreneur and Co-Founder

Lauren Conrad ended up on one of the world's first major reality TV shows at the tender age of 17. Since then, she's grown into the cunning, experienced entrepreneur you know today. According to her, she wouldn't be where she is now—a New York Times best-selling author eight times over, designer of her own fashion line LC Lauren Conrad for Kohl's, and philanthropist behind the non-profit The Little Market—without the mistakes she made along the way. “I believe in mistakes," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 19 of Second Life. "I think that everything I know is because of a mistake I made.”

Jun 25, 2018
Marianna Hewitt: Influencer, Blogger and Co-Founder of Summer Fridays

When you grow up in Ohio with dreams of moving to Los Angeles, becoming a TV host, and owning a Range Rover, people don't always take you seriously, according to Marianna Hewitt. However, with a bit of luck, perseverance, and the skills to turn her dreams into reality, Hewitt moved to L.A. and not only became a TV host but parlayed her experience into a career as a YouTube star, blogger, influencer, and now skincare brand co-founder. "My mentality is someone out there is doing the thing you want to do. Why can't it be you?" she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 18 of Second Life.

Jun 18, 2018
Jen Gotch: Founder and Chief Creative Officer

If you asked Jen Gotch in her 20s what her career might be like today, she'd have had absolutely no idea. "I'm a late bloomer," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 17 of Second Life. The businesswoman and founder of the stylish gifts and accessories brand spent college studying literature and philosophy with the goal of becoming a lawyer, only to realize that wasn't the path for her. Little did she know it would be a career in food styling that would ignite her creativity and lead to the beginning of her own brand then, later, a podcast about mental health.

Jun 11, 2018
Cassandra Grey: Violet Grey Founder

From an early age, Cassandra Grey understood that you have to work for the things you need in life. It's part of what motivated her to not only work at a children's store in high school but eventually go on to manage said store and become a buyer. It's also part of what drove her to create her own, nontraditional PR business in both San Francisco and New York City and what, ultimately, led her to draft the business plan for what's now a multiplatform beauty empire by the name of Violet Grey. "I'm still on the day-to-day hustle," Grey tells Hillary Kerr in Episode 16 of Second Life, where she explains how her entrepreneurial spirit and passion for people guided her through multiple career paths.

Jun 04, 2018
Anna Brockway: Chairish Co-Founder and Chief Marketing Officer

The fast-paced world of advertising couldn't seem more opposite to vintage furniture shopping. However, after pressing pause on a career in marketing to raise her quickly growing family, Anna Brockway found herself using her advertising know-how to start her own website for selling vintage furniture. Brockway explains how she turned a little website called Chairish into the curated online marketplace for vintage home goods that it is today on episode 15 of Second Life.

May 28, 2018
Mandy Moore: Actress and Singer-Songwriter

There are two ways to tell Mandy Moore’s career story. While we’re familiar with the highlight reel—Moore was a breakout singer at just 15 and is a Golden Globe nominee—the real story is far more complex. In episode 14 of Second Life, Moore opens up about self-doubt and setbacks and how they helped shape the woman and actor she is today.

May 21, 2018
Sophia Rossi: HelloGiggles Co-Founder

Sophia Rossi's résumé is filled with accomplishments, but there's one achievement you won't find on there: graduate. The fiercely successful CEO of women's lifestyle website HelloGiggles skipped college to dive straight into full-time work after high school. In episode 13 of Second Life, Rossi talks about working as a producer on The Hills, learning from startup mistakes, and what it takes to be a great manager.

May 14, 2018
Tracy Sun: Poshmark Co-Founder

Tracy Sun may be at the helm of the impressive fashion-tech startup Poshmark, but she doesn't consider herself a "fashion person." She studied biology and psychology in college with the intention of pursuing a career in neuroscience. Little did she know that she would trade medical school for business school and leave behind New York City for the tech mecca that is Silicon Valley. Sun explains how she made the transition from science to startup in episode 12 of Second Life.

May 07, 2018
Jessica Alba: Actress and Founder of The Honest Company

Having a successful career might seem like the goal for many actors, but for Jessica Alba, it was a foundation to try something entirely new: building a business. The founder of The Honest Company shares the most powerful lessons she’s learned along the way, including letting go of ego, recruiting the right people, and the most important quality you can possess.

Apr 30, 2018
Raina Penchansky: Digital Brand Architects Co-Founder and CEO

Few people would consider dropping out of college at age 19 to be a pivotal first step toward an impressive career, but that's exactly what Raina Penchansky did. Now co-founder and CEO of digital talent management company Digital Brand Architects (BDA), Penchansky left college during her sophomore year and began building a wildly impressive career in public relations. She explains how her natural instincts for hustling and winging it catapulted her PR career and gave her the courage to launch her own startup in episode 10 of Second Life.

Apr 23, 2018
Kelly LeVeque: Holistic Nutritionist and Celebrity Health Coach

Making the decision to change careers isn't always clear-cut, but holistic nutritionist Kelly LeVeque can pinpoint the moment she realized she was on the wrong path. In episode nine, LeVeque talks about her leap from pharmaceutical sales to nutrition as well as the advice to heed if you’re thinking of starting a business.

Apr 16, 2018
Natasha Case: Coolhaus Co-Founder and CEO

Architecture and ice cream may sound like an unlikely combination, but bringing these two concepts together created a recipe for success for Natasha Case, co-founder of the original hipster ice cream truck, Coolhaus. After landing what many would consider a dream job as a Disney Imagineer straight out of graduate school, Case couldn’t shake the idea that she could use architecture for something bigger. For her, that meant blending her love for architecture with food, she explains in episode eight of Second Life.

Apr 09, 2018
Emily Current and Meritt Elliott: Hollywood Power Stylists and Designers Behind The Great

Emily Current and Meritt Elliot have achieved something that most friends only ever dream about. What started as a college friendship blossomed into a wildly successful business partnership built on mutual respect and admiration. After going their separate ways following graduation, Emily and Meritt took a leap of faith, parting from their lives as freelance stylists and writers to join forces and create what would become multiple successful fashion brands together.

Apr 02, 2018
Mandana Dayani: Everything But the House Chief Brand Officer

From an outsider's point of view, Mandana Dayani was on a clear path to success: After graduating from USC Gould School of Law, she had an offer lined up at a top firm. But something wasn't right. In episode six of Second Life, the chief brand officer of Everything But the House and former vice president of Rachel Zoe Inc. explains why changing careers was the best decision she ever made.

Mar 26, 2018
Kelly Oxford: New York Times Best-Selling Author

It's hard to sum up Kelly Oxford's career without resorting to a list. She's a New York Times best-selling author, screenwriter, sexual assault activist, social media sensation, and mom of three. Oxford wasn't always career-focused, though. In episode five of our podcast, Second Life, she explains what it was like to go from stay-at-home mom to social media star and breadwinner in a matter of tweets.

Mar 19, 2018
Michelle Lee: Allure Editor in Chief

In the publishing industry, few challenges are as daunting as reinventing a beloved classic, but that's exactly what Allure Editor in Chief Michelle Lee was asked to do. In episode four of Second Life, Lee explains how she rose to the challenge and chose to rethink the traditional standards of beauty and publishing.

Mar 12, 2018
Candace Nelson: Sprinkles Cupcakes Founder

Few people can be credited with starting a national food craze like Candace Nelson did. The pastry chef and entrepreneur sparked America's cupcake obsession when she opened Sprinkles Cupcakes in 2005, the first of its kind in the world. In the third episode of our podcast, Second Life, Nelson explains why she pivoted from a banker to baker and how she harnessed the power of saying “no."

Mar 05, 2018
Jenna Bans: Hollywood Showrunner and Creator of NBC's Good Girls

Jenna Bans's résumé is scarily similar to the list of TV shows we love to binge. As a producer and writer on Grey's Anatomy, co–executive producer on Scandal, and creator of NBC's new crime drama, Good Girls, she's the creative force behind some of the most popular shows of this generation. In episode two of Second Life, Bans opens up about ditching law school to pursue screenwriting, working with Shonda Rhimes, and learning to lead fearlessly.

Feb 26, 2018
Jen Atkin: "The World's Most Influential Hair Stylist"

In our very first episode, host Hillary Kerr sits down with the one and only Jen Atkin, celebrity stylist and founder of cult haircare line Ouai. Dubbed the "most influential hairstylist in the world" by The New York Times, Atkin counts Bella Hadid, Chrissy Teigen, and Kendall Jenner as clients. Here, she gets candid about the power of social media, reflects on her journey from salon apprentice to CEO of a thriving business, and explains why mental toughness is the most underrated quality.

Feb 19, 2018
Preview of Second Life, Our New Show

Join our host, Who What Wear and MyDomaine co-founder Hillary Kerr, as she chronicles the career changes that can come at any age in our new podcast, Second Life. 

Feb 13, 2018