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On the Job with PORAC- Hosted by President of PORAC Brian Marvel.

Episode Date
Episode 18 – SB 230: Setting a National Precedent to Reduce Use of Force
On this episode of On The Job With PORAC, PORAC President, Brian Marvel and Vice President, Damon Kurtz sit down with Ron Lawrence, President of the California Police Chiefs Association and Rick LaBeske, President of the California Association of Highway Patrolmen to discuss the latest updates on SB 230 following the major amendments made on April 11th and further amendments on April 23rd. Tune in now to hear more about our statewide law enforcement leadership and collaboration to establish the most profound use of force legislation in the nation! 
To learn more about how you can help us pass SB 230, visit the link below:
May 15, 2019
Episode 17 – Pay Parity in Houston with Joe Gamaldi of the Houston POU

It’s finally here! Our special edition of On The Job With PORAC featuring Joe Gamaldi (President, Houston POU) is a can’t miss. We were lucky enough to have Joe as a speaker at Symposium-Impact 2019 this year and Monterey was buzzing for days after his riveting case against pay parity. Brian and Damon sat down with Joe at Symposium to discuss what’s happening in Houston and whether something similar will be just around the corner for California. It’s important to understand how parity impacts a city and everyone in it, listen now to find out why.

To learn more about what’s happened in Houston since we recorded, visit the links below:




May 01, 2019
Episode 16 – Policing in a Hostile Climate: Where Do We Go from Here?

On this episode of #OnTheJobWithPORAC, Sacramento POA President and PORAC Treasurer Timothy Davis sits down with President Brian Marvel and VP Damon Kurtz to discuss the Sacramento Police Department response to the Stephon Clark shooting fallout, Department efforts to create better relationships with community members despite media bias, and how comprehensive use-of-force legislation like SB230 is the right answer going forward. Tune in now – you don’t want to miss this one!

Apr 02, 2019
Episode 15 – PORAC's Use of Force Bill SB 230

On this episode of On The Job With PORAC, Brian Marvel and Damon Kurtz continue the discussion on use of force legislation - specifically PORAC supported SB 230. This is a plan to address the issue comprehensively with training, updated policies, etc., versus AB 392 which would simply criminalize officers. It’s vital that we all understand what’s at stake here and that everyone does their part to urge elected officials to support this legislation that will actually improve outcomes for community members and officers alike. Tune in to learn more!

Mar 12, 2019
Episode 14 – The Future of AB931

On this episode of On the Job with PORAC Brian Marvel, Damon Kurtz, Randy Perry (Aaron Read & Associates), and David E. Mastagni (Mastagni Holstedt, A Professional Corporation) dive into the future of use-of-force legislation, compared to last year's AB931. As we’ve heard in previous podcasts, this type of legislation will have considerable impacts on law enforcement officers; therefore, it is critical that we have a seat at the table in getting it right. This is one of the biggest fights the law enforcement community will face this year, so it’s important to understand what’s at stake and what to expect as the legislative session ramps up. Tune in to learn more about our approach here at PORAC and how we’ll all need to work together to see that measures as drastic and dangerous as AB931 don’t become law.

Feb 06, 2019
Episode 13 – Welcoming in PORAC’s New VP and Treasurer w/ Special Guests, Damon Kurtz and Tim Davis

On this episode of “On the Job with PORAC,” Brian has PORAC’s recently elected Vice President, Damon Kurtz, and recently elected Treasurer, Timothy Davis, on the show to talk about their history in law enforcement and how they are looking ahead to a new year for PORAC.  Damon Kurtz is a 24-year veteran who started as a Deputy in Santa Barbara and has now been with Fresno PD for the past 14 years.  Damon was formerly President of Fresno POA and Chairman of PORAC’s Insurance and Benefits Trust.  Timothy Davis, the son of a police officer and father of police officer, began his career with Sac PD in 1998.  Just two years in the job, Tim joined the Sac POA Board of Directors and three years ago was elected President of Sac POA, while also serving on PORAC’s Board of Directors.  Join us on this podcast as we welcome in our new PORAC leadership and see what’s in store for 2019.  

Jan 08, 2019
Special Episode – PORAC’s Work Comp Legislative Victories w/ Special Guest, Randy Perry

Today, President Marvel and Randy, with Aaron Read & Associates (ARA), talk about PORAC’s 2018 legislative victories.  In a time where law enforcement is constantly playing defense against bad bills, PORAC continues to work with our legislative advocates at ARA to sponsor and support critical public safety measures.  In 2018, PORAC sponsored two work comp bills that made it successfully to the governor’s desk and received a signature. The first bill, AB 1749 by Assemblymember Daly, was a result of the 2017 Route 91 shooting in Vegas.   This bill ensures that California’s Workers Compensation System covers peace officers who acted outside of state boundaries and were injured, regardless of their injuries.  The second successful PORAC sponsored bill is SB 1086 by Senator Atkins which extends the survivor death benefit eligibility to ensure that these officers’ grieving families are not deprived of the benefits they deserve due to an arbitrary and unfair timeline.  Please listen in for more!

Dec 19, 2018
Episode 12 – A Proper Send-off w/ PORAC’s Outgoing VP, Brent Meyer

On this episode of “On the Job with PORAC,” Brian Marvel talks with PORAC’s outgoing Vice President, Brent Meyer.  Brent is stepping down from his role at PORAC to go back to where it began as a cop for Sac PD.  Tune in to hear how Brent first got involved in police union politics with Sac POA and followed his calling to be on the PORAC Board in 2010 and then VP in 2013.  Brent brought a bold vision with him to PORAC, which resulted in remarkable membership growth, a new approach to communications, and a goal to ensure that our members have all the resources necessary to do their jobs.  Thank you Brent for everything you’ve done for PORAC.  You will be missed!

Dec 13, 2018
Episode 11 – Legislative Year in Review w/ Randy Perry, Aaron Read & Associates

On this episode of “On the Job with PORAC,” Brian sits down with PORAC’s legislative advocate, Randy Perry, with Aaron Read & Associates (ARA), to discuss PORAC’s priority bills in the recent legislative session.  ARA monitors the thousands of bills introduced each year to ensure that PORAC is represented at the Capitol on all matters of public safety.  Outside of bills such as AB 931, SB 1421, and AB 748, as we discussed in previous podcasts, PORAC faces many other legislative issues such as peace officer training, workers comp, pensions, bargaining, POBR, and equipment funding and acquisition. 

Tune in to hear how PORAC and ARA work together to ensure law enforcement has the tools and resources necessary to do their job in the current political climate. 

Dec 05, 2018
Episode 10 – Ethics and Police Management w/ Special Guests Ed Mullins and Andrew Quinn, SBANYPD

Brian sits down with Ed Mullins, President of the New York Sergeants Benevolent Association and Andrew Quinn, the SBA’s General Counsel to discuss the high profile case of NYPD Sergeant, Hugh Barry.  Make sure to listen in to hear how the case against Sgt. Barry turned into political prosecution of extreme measures and why it is critical to have the protection and security of your association.  What happened in New York can happen anywhere, and it will.  Law enforcement must stick together to protect our officers when they need it the most. 

Nov 15, 2018
Episode 9 – What’s going on in the North Valley Chapter w/ Special Guest Peter Durfee

Join Brian and Brent as they bring on special guest, Peter Durfee (Chico PD, PORAC Director, and past President of the North Valley Chapter of PORAC).  On this episode, Peter talks about the North Valley’s staffing issues and how collaborating with the Chamber of Commerce and local businesses will help grow departments, and in turn, build relationships within our communities.  Peter emphasizes the importance of family, friendships, and why we do what we do.


Many of our members have been affected by the California wildfires.  Please consider donating here:


Oct 26, 2018
Episode 8 – PORAC’s Insurance & Benefits Trust w/ Special Guest Damon Kurtz

On this episode of “On the Job with PORAC,” Brian and Brent invite outgoing Chairman of the Insurance & Benefits Trust (IBT), Damon Kurtz, to talk about his role in the trust and the issues law enforcement is facing in the Central Valley.  Damon is a 24-year law enforcement veteran, current President of the Fresno POA, and has recently been sworn in as a PORAC Director.  Tune in to hear more about PORAC’s IBT, concerns with law enforcement funding and pensions, and what you can do to help.


To learn more about PORAC’s IBT go to https://ibtofporac.org/

Oct 08, 2018
Episode 7- Legislation Update

If you’re a California peace officer, you’ll want to listen to this podcast.  On this episode, PORAC President, Brian Marvel, provides an important update on critical legislation that could impact you, including:

  • SB 1421 by Senator Skinner, relating to the release of records (on Governor’s desk)
  • AB 748 by Assemblymember Philip Ting, relating to the disclosure of video and audio recordings (on Governor’s desk)
  • AB 931 by Assemblymember Shirley Weber, relating to use-of-force (held in Senate Rules Committee)

Fortunately, AB 931 was defeated for the year, but the issue remains.   On this podcast, President Marvel discusses PORAC’s commitment moving forward and our determination to continue to highlight the honest and professional work our officers do. 


Tune in to get a more in-depth look at these bills and the future of law enforcement. 

Sep 18, 2018
Episode 6 – Special Guest Pat Withrow

On this episode of “On the Job with PORAC,” Brian and Brent welcome special guest, San Joaquin County Sheriff-elect, Pat Withrow.  Sheriff-elect Withrow discusses the road leading up to his election, his 28 years in the department, his involvement in his union and the importance of PORAC.  Coming from his position as a Sergeant, Sheriff-elect Withrow understands the ins and outs of law enforcement on the street, in custody and the civilian staff.  Tune in to hear how Sheriff-elect Withrow got involved in order to make the necessary changes for his department.  We’re excited to see what’s next for San Joaquin County!

Aug 20, 2018
Special Episode "California Wildfires"

As the devastating wildfires continue to ravage California, all hands are on deck to keep our communities safe.  Tune in to hear how PORAC is getting involved and how you can help support our members impacted by the fires. 


Link to make a California Casualty Claim: https://www.calcas.com/web/ccmc/affinity?id=156687

Donate to the PORAC/POREF Wildfire Relief Fund: https://cahpcu.org/wildfireReliefFund

Attorney General Price Gouging Resource Page:  Click Here or call (800) 952-5225 to file a complaint.

Aug 07, 2018
Episode 5 - "Peer Support" with Sgt. Ron Chesterman & Officer Krissy Sundby, SacPD

On episode five of On the Job with PORAC, Brian invites special guests Sergeant Chesterman and Officer Sundby with SacPD’s Peer Support Unit to discuss their role in the unit and the importance of officer wellness.  With the growing pressure and exposure law enforcement faces on a daily basis, a peer support officer is becoming more and more a vital part of a department.  They are who support an officer, on and off duty.  A peer support officer’s main concern is the health and well-being of the officer and their family when facing issue ranging from officer-involved shootings and traumatic calls to divorce and suicide.  It is a new era for law enforcement and it is critical that we raise awareness of the challenges that come with devoting your life to protecting and serving your communities.

Jul 17, 2018
Episode 4 - "How Janus vs. AFSCME Affects You" with Bob Bonsall, Corporate Counsel

The Supreme Court ruling on the case of Janus vs. AFSCME continues to make headlines as public sector labor unions across the country deal with the implications of the slight majority decision.  On this podcast, Brian invites special guest Bob Bonsall, PORAC’s Corporate Counsel, to share his expertise on the history of labor unions, the ramifications of the Supreme Court’s decision, and the importance of aligning with your associations and unions. 

Although this is a debate that will continue for many years to come, now more than ever, law enforcement is under attack.  This is the time to strengthen our unions in order to maintain a stronger partnership to face the challenges ahead.  Listen in to hear how standing with your union will provide you with the comfort and security you and your family deserve.  

Jul 03, 2018
Episode 3 - "Why Communication Matters"

In this episode of On the Job with PORAC, Brian and Brent discuss the importance of communication. The PORAC membership (of over 70,000 men and women) is a diverse and multi-generational family; therefore our outreach must cast a wide net.  In a media world that does not sleep, PORAC understands the need to get our message out quickly and effectively.  Tune in to hear how PORAC is increasing our communication on issues that matter by utilizing social media, podcasts, PORAC LE News Magazine, training and, most importantly, input from our members. 

Jun 29, 2018
Special Episode "AB 931"

On this special report of On the Job with PORAC, President Brian Marvel and Vice President Brent Meyer discuss Assembly Bill 931 by Assemblywoman Shirley Weber (D-San Diego). 

This bill would limit the use of deadly force by a peace officer to those situations where it is “necessary” to prevent imminent and serious bodily injury or death to the officer or to a third party.   This podcast will provide you with background for this legislation and discuss how this bill would jeopardize the safety of our officers and the community in which we serve.

AB 931 is headed for Senate Public Safety Committee on June 19th, 2018.  PORAC is strongly opposed to this dangerous measure.  Tune in for more.

Jun 15, 2018
Episode 2

During the week of May 13th, PORAC joined their law enforcement family from all over the nation and the world to honor the officers we’ve lost in the line of duty.  On this episode of On the Job with PORAC, President, Brian Marvel, and Vice President, Brent Meyer, discuss PORAC’s involvement in Police Week which coincided with the Executive Committee’s Annual DC Spring Fly-In where they met with our leaders to discuss the critical issues facing law enforcement.  PORAC met with the Attorney General, as well as other policymakers, to discuss public safety officer benefits, active shooter plans for schools and PORAC’s significant role in national law enforcement.  Make sure to tune in to hear more!

Jun 07, 2018
Episode 1

Show Notes: PORAC President Brian Marvel with special guest PORAC Vice President Brent Meyer

-Show Intro

-About PORAC

-Brian's background

-Brent's background

-The positive role PORAC has played in shaping law enforcement policy in California

-PORAC on a national level

-Specialized Law Enforcement

-Biggest takeaways from a trip to Washington D.C.

-Brent's experience as an officer with Sacramento PD

-Brian's experience as an officer with San Diego PD

-Brian's thoughts on PORAC and on the job with PORAC Podcast

May 03, 2018