Hot Marriage. Cool Parents.

By Jamie Otis and Doug Hehner

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 Sep 9, 2020
Love this podcast. Jamie and Doug are an open book and beautiful souls. You can hear the honesty and sincerity in their voices. I loved them on MAFS and love them on this podcast!

 Feb 28, 2019

 Jan 30, 2019
Loved the interview with Jephte and Shawniece. I liked the fact that the four of you were talking like it was a fireside chat; just friends being real with one another. Great show guys!!

 Jan 10, 2019
Too many pee and poo stories. To keep it interesting they need to step up their game. It's going to get really boring if they don't.


Are you looking for someone to share their deepest, darkest secrets on keeping their marriage spicy? Are you like, “puhhlease DISH on how to be a cool parent .. because, yeah ... I dunno!” Well Jamie Otis and Doug Hehner have got all you hubbies and wifeys - and mommies and daddies - covered, because each week they find a guest who will SPILL all their dirty secrets! Because we all wanna keep our marriages hot and our parenting cool!

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Ep. 104 Transracial Adoption, Miscarriage, and Rainbow Babies with Jamie’s Girlfran, Jeena Wilder!
We are super excited to share this raw and very vulnerable conversation we were able to have with Jeena Wilder. She’s not only a mama to 4 kiddos, but she is an ultimate boss babe! Her family is truly the modern all American family and it is so inspiring! She absolutely radiates positivity over on IG! Jeena and her hubby are an interracial couple with four beautiful children; one adopted and the others biological, but alllll loved the same!    5:59 - Jeena shares about life right now and also shares some exciting news! 15:12 - Jeena shares about the difficulties of going through a miscarriage as well as getting pregnant during the pandemic.  18:06 - Doug asks, with the pandemic going on, is your birth plan different than when you had your other children?  25:08 - Jeena shares about a time when someone questioned in front of her children if she was her daughter’s mother.   29:43 - Doug asks, how did you bridge the conversation or did you and your husband prepare for the day you had to give that talk?  39:56 - Jamie asks, when people say that their children are too young to talk about race or they don’t see color, what is your response? 43:41 - Jamie asks, if I am a momma, white, black, gray, yellow, whatever and I want to teach my kid about racism, what are some steps that I could take to ensure that my child is growing up with more of an open mind? 47:16 - Doug asks, as far as raising your children, is being Haitian part of raising them as well?  49:01 - Jamie asks, I want to clarify for those listening, so you have 2 biracial kids that you birthed and then you have your daughter who you adopted at the age 2 ½ or so? Is that right? 49:51 - Jamie asks, what brought your daughter to your family? What’s her story?  53:56 - Jamie asks, what is the biggest challenge you have had to face since adopting your daughter because as you know I am really interested! 59:00 - Jeena encourages Jamie and Doug that it is important to understand that adoption is not for everyone, but if you are considering things, she encourages you to look into fostering.     Check back next Friday for another fantastic episode! Wash your hands and wear the dang mask :)   Jeena’s Instagram:   And thank you to our sponsors:   Sweaty Betty - Because you deserve to look amazing before, during and after your workout, go to and use our code HMCP at checkout to get 20% off your purchase.   March of Dimes - January is birth defects prevention month. Some birth defects are preventable and there are steps one can take to minimize the likelihood of your child being born with birth defects. They include: Protect yourself from COVID-19 Be sure to take 400 micrograms (mcg) of folic acid every day Get a pre-pregnancy checkup Stay up-to-date on vaccines Before you get pregnant, try to reach a healthy weight Avoid substances that are harmful during pregnancy   Learn more at: &   Moshi App - Download the Moshi app on App Store or Google Play Store and get access to a 1 week free trial of Moshi Premium! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 16, 2021
Ep. 103 EMMY NOMINATED Actress & Desperate Housewife, Marcia Cross, Tells Us ALLLL About Her Fight With Anal Cancer & Spreading Awareness for HPV!
Today we are SO LUCKY to have the beautiful and insanely talented, Marcia Cross on the podcast! She is someone we are sure A LOT of you know...if you used to watch Desperate Housewives, or you’re into soap operas we are sure you know who she is! ;)   Marcia Cross is an Emmy Nominated Actress & a 2-Time Screen Actors Guild Award winner! Along with being an incredible actress, she is a mama to twins and an anal cancer survivor. Jamie met her through her work with HPV Alliance where we try to spread awareness on all things HPV!   8:05 - Welcome to HMCP, Marcia!  8:35 - Marcia shares her story of her cancer diagnosis and what her experience was throughout 13:26 - Jamie asks, What is anal cancer and what was the recovery process like for you? 18:26 - Jamie asks, I’m so sorry to hear about the amount of cancer that you’ve been exposed to, I know that you lost a boyfriend previously? 19:12 - Marcia talks about her involvement with the HPV Alliance. 20:38 - Doug asks, What advice do you have as a parent talking to your kids about HPV or being aware? 23:43 - Doug, Jamie, and Marcia chat about how the conversations will go with talking to their children and Doug and Jamie discuss the differences in talking to a son or a daughter. 31:51 - Doug asks, Starting from when you first had cancer until now, what are some of the most important lessons that you have learned? 33:29 - Jamie asks, For anybody who may have been recently diagnosed with HPV or had been in the past or may encounter a diagnosis in the future - what do you recommend as a game plan to keep HPV at bay? 37:05 - Marcia shares a story of a friend who was told by doctors that she had a hemorrhoid but then discovered she had cancer through looking on an online portal after a doctor’s appointment! 41:40 - Doug, Jamie, and Marcia talk about the importance of de-stigmatizing everything about HPV and awareness of certain viruses is only going to help everyone! 43:10 - Jamie asks, What would you have to say for someone who has been diagnosed with cancer or may be going through cancer? 50:33 - Jamie asks, I couldn’t imagine as an Emmy nominated actress trying to watch TV - Is it difficult to sit back and watch any show because you are so talented?     Come back next week for another GREAT episode! Stay well! :)   Marcia’s Instagram: HPV Alliance Website: Anal Cancer Foundation: AHCC Mushroom Supplements   And thank you to our sponsors:   Warby Parker - Try Warby Parker’s FREE Home Try-On program: Order 5 pairs of glasses to try at home FOR FREE for 5 days! There’s no obligation to buy! Ships FREE and includes a pre-paid return shipping label! Go to NOW!   Moshi App - Download the Moshi app on App Store or Google Play Store and get access to a 1 week free trial of Moshi Premium!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 09, 2021
Ep. 102 Our Christmas Gift To You! MERRY CHRISTMAS from the Hehners!
We are spending this entire episode sharing our BIG NEWS with you guys! Doug is starting a NEW KIDS YouTube channel - Hanging With The Hehner Kids! We are so happy to be able to have Doug stay at home with the kids and be present with them - something we all understand the importance of after such a difficult year!    We hope you guys have a very Merry Christmas and our next podcast episode where we chat with Marcia Cross (yes, Bree from Desperate Housewives!) will be live on January 8! Stay tuned!    Love you guys!    Until we chat again, Happy New Year!    And thank you to our sponsor:   TalkSpace - Get $100 off of your first month with Talkspace. To match with a licensed therapist today, go to or download the app. Make sure to use the code JAMIE to get $100 off your first month! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 26, 2020
Ep. 101 HMCP EXCLUSIVE PART 2: Dr Jessica & Fiancé Jon Francetic Speak Out for the First Time Post-Married At First Sight
Here we go again! We are super excited to share Part 2 of our chat with Dr. Jessica and Jon! We hope you guys have LOVED this interview - we sure have!   3:50 - 1st Question: Did you volunteer to step down or was it a break of contract at all? 7:08 - 2nd Question: Jessica, what was Dr. Pepper’s reaction? 9:15 - 3rd Question: Jon, what was it about Jessica that changed for you to settle down? 12:55 - 4th Question: Jon, when you were going through the entire screening process and everything, do you feel like you were seeing Jessica at the end like the person that she is or did it go through Molly first to realize that this is exactly what I want? 15:19 - 5th Question: How long have you been together? 16:08 - 6th Question: When is the wedding gonna be? 17:24 - 7th Question: Jon, did you ask her kids if it was okay to marry her? 24:33 - 8th Question: Jess, did you know or have an idea that Jon was going to propose? 25:47 - 9th Question: Let’s hear the whole engagement story! 30:03 - 10th Question: Jon and Jessica share about finding the perfect ring. 34:08 - 11th Question: Tell us more about the course you have for couples.   Come back next week for another GREAT episode! Wishing you the happiest holidays!!!   Dr. Jessica’s Instagram: Jon’s Instagram: Love Builder Website: Love Builder, Inc. Instagram:   And thank you to our sponsors:   SweatyBetty - Go to and use our code HMCP at checkout to get 20% off your purchase! This is the BEST OFFER Sweaty Betty has available ANYWHERE.   Calm App - Calm is offering a special limited time promotion of 40% off a Calm premium subscription at Unlimited access to Calm’s entire library, and new content is added every week! Download the app now! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 21, 2020
Ep. 100 HMCP EXCLUSIVE PART 1: Dr Jessica & Fiancé Jon Francetic Speak Out for the First Time Post-Married At First Sight
Is this seriously our 100th episode?!? OH MY GOODNESS! Time has flown by! And we think this episode is absolutely perfect to air for our 100th episode!    Today we have a highly requested guest couple from our married at first sight world! This isn’t a typical couple...uhh..let’s just say they weren’t matched together. This couple is truly one that is a great example of finding love in an extraordinary way! Jon Francetic & Dr. Jessica Griffin join us today! Dr Jessica was an expert on MAFS Seasons 6-8!! Dr Jessica is a psychologist & relationship trauma expert. Jon was on MAFS Season 6 but it didn’t work out with that spouse, and much later Jon & Dr. Jessica connected again. This is the first time that they are talking about everything with their relationship, and we feel privileged and blessed that they have trusted us with sharing their story!   12:20 - Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents., Dr. Jessica and Jon!  12:33 - 1st Question: Who asked who out first? 15:07 - 2nd Question: Jon, do you wanna share how you guys came to be? 18:07 - 3rd Question: Was there a lot of backlash in the beginning of your relationship? 19:36 - 4th Question: “I believe it is so inappropriate for a counselor to date a past client - Dr. Jessica’s response? 24:36 - 5th Question: How hard was it and what led to the decision to finally go public with it? 28:56 - 6th Question: Was it love at first sight for you guys? Do you feel like you were immediately enamored with each other?  30:34 - 7th Question: There seems to be a huge misconception that maybe one of you was really into the other, but it sounds like that wasn’t the case at all? 33:13 - 8th Question: Courtney from Season 1 of MAFS asks - has Jessica ever dated a patient before Jon? 33:53 - 9th Question: How do you deal with the age difference? 36:30 - 10th Question: How does Jon feel about being a stepdad? Do you guys plan on having more kids?  39:51 - 11th Question: What do you do now when you can’t travel and you’re stuck in the house together? 41:04 - 12th Question: One thing we want to clarify - you guys are not going to try to have babies, is that true? 41:59 - 13th Question: When did you decide to introduce Jon to your kids? 52:19 - 14th Question: So who was first attracted to who? How did that all pan out? 55:31 - 15th Question: So after this amazing lightning strikes, did you guys make out that night? When was it that it started to become physical? 56:33 - 16th Question: How was Pastor Cal’s reaction to your relationship?   We could never have made it to our 100th episode without you guys so THANK YOU SO MUCH! Don’t miss the 2nd part of the interview with Dr. Jessica and Jon on next week’s episode!    Dr. Jessica’s Instagram: Jon’s Instagram:    And thank you to our sponsors:   LinenFit - Right now, LinenFit is offering 20% off purchases sitewide at - use code HOTMARRIAGE at checkout! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 14, 2020
Ep. 99 Show Me The Money! Financial Guru Rachel Cruze Tells Us What We Can Do!
We are really eager to share our chat with Rachel Cruze with you guys! Do you ever feel like no matter what you do, you never have any extra money? Well then this episode is for you!    Rachel Cruze is a 2-time #1 national bestselling author, a financial EXPERT, and the host of the Rachel Cruze show. Since 2010 Rachel has served at Ramsey Solutions where she teaches people to avoid debt, save money, budget, and how to win with money at any stage in life. She’s authored 3 bestselling books, including Love Your Life, Not Theirs, and Smart Money, Smart Kids which she co-wrote with her father Dave Ramsey. Her latest book, Know Yourself, Know Your Money: Discover Why You Handle Money The Way You Do And What To Do About It will release in January 2021 which is right around the corner! We are super excited to chat all about money, money, money!   12:11 - Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents., Rachel!  12:18 - Rachel shares her feelings about writing books and the struggle that comes with it. 12:48 - Jamie asks Rachel what her thoughts are on the phrase, “Money is the root of all evil.” 13:51 - Doug asks, what is your message to kids that are growing up that are going to be in financial debt because of college and because of education? 17:15 - Jamie asks, how should I go about talking about finances with my kids in order for them to have a healthy relationship of money? 20:13 - Jamie asks, what is a good time to start an allowance with our kids? 21:13 - Doug asks, growing up, was there a lot of pressure getting into this field with Dave Ramsey as your father? Or did it come naturally to you? What are some of the best lessons you were taught as your father became more and more successful? 30:38 - Doug asks, what is the one tip that you have for managing money and changing bad money habits? 32:13 - Jamie asks, out of all of your books, which one do you recommend to someone who is just starting out to get the most benefit from? 34:28 - Jamie asks, what advice do you have for someone who has trouble saving money?  35:52 - Doug asks, what are some of the best tips that you can give on what to save, how much to save, and what to save for?  39:07 - Doug asks, what are some of the main bad money habits that you see and what are some of the steps that you give advice on? 40:28 - Jamie asks, for those of us who for whatever reason want to create a budget, where do we go or what do we need to create the budget? 42:33 - Jamie asks, what are some easy tips and tricks that you have for stay-at-home parents?  44:48 - Doug asks, what are some ways to ease into the conversation to break the barrier and help couples speak with one another openly and freely about money? 46:34 - Jamie asks, from the author herself, I want to know who this book is for?   Love you ALL! Chat again soon!   Rachel’s Instagram: Know Yourself, Know Your Money Book Available January 5, 2021!   And thank you to our sponsors:   BlendJet - Go to now to save an extra 12% off your order!   Calm App - Calm is offering a special limited time promotion of 40% off a Calm premium subscription at Unlimited access to Calm’s entire library, and new content is added every week! Download the app now!   Dropps - Visit and use the code hotmarriage to get 25% off your first order!   Native Deodorant - Give the gift of Native by going to or use promo code hmcp at checkout and get 20% off your first order! Make sure to order before December 7th to get your products in time for Christmas! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 07, 2020
Ep. 98 Self Love Is An Ongoing Process, But You CAN Achieve It! Kenzie Brenna Tells Us How!
Today we are super excited to have Kenzie Brenna, self love advocate, host of the podcast Conversations with Kenzie, fierce millennial speaker & influencer on Hot Marriage. Cool Parents! Kenzie’s podcast is all about mental health and self love! The reason we fell in love with her page on Instagram is because she radiates positivity particularly concerning self love and body positivity and as you know we are ALLLLLLL about that!   10:27 - Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents., Kenzie!  10:58 - Jamie asks, what is your definition of body positivity? 14:12 - Doug asks, do you remember the first time you were vulnerable and posted about body positivity online? What was the response like? 17:55 - Doug asks, was there something that prompted you to speak out about body positivity? 22:35 - Jamie asks, what do you want to say to people who are struggling with their body image and weight as a result of the pandemic? 26:18 - Jamie asks, what do you say to the person who cannot cut someone negative out of their life? (i.e. their relative) 35:30 - Jamie offers advice to those who may feel shy in confronting others about them consistently bringing up weight, etc. 37:00 - Jamie asks, if someone is just starting out in the journey to body positivity, what is something they can do daily or weekly to encourage them to continue? 43:20 - Jamie asks, what does she do now that she is a few years into her self-love journey that she has become more practiced in since the beginning?   Stay tuned you guys, and stay HEALTHY!   Kenzies Instagram:   And thank you to our sponsors:   LinenFit - Right now, LinenFit is offering 20% off purchases sitewide at - use code HOTMARRIAGE at checkout! Dropps - visit and use the code hotmarriage to get 25% off your first order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 30, 2020
Ep. 97 Danielle Schaffer Is NOT Gonna Let Society Tell Her How To Raise Her Kids!
Today we are super excited to share a chat with you that we got to have with Danielle Schaffer (City Girl Gone Mom). Danielle is a momma and a podcaster of Mom Confidential. She is a wife and a boss BABE and her son is boss babe Brody. Her podcast is all about the realities about being a mom, all the truths and personal anecdotes! She is all about letting her kids personalities shine through no matter what society says! She likes to tell it like it is and so do we!!! We love keeping it real! 18:07 - Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents., Danielle! What inspired you to start your son, Brody’s Instagram page? (@bossbabybrody) 22:51 - Jamie asks, did you ever put him in dance classes to nurture his ability? 26:15 - Doug asks, when did you realize it started to go viral? 28:15 - Doug asks, were you gender focused with your older kids or when did that start? 32:09 - Jamie asks, what’s your advice for stepping out of this type of a mind frame and really allowing your kids to embrace whatever they want without too much influence for others? 36:30 - Doug asks, do you think others wearing dresses is going to help others feel more comfortable breaking away from societal standards, or do you think of this as a new trend, or just someone expressing their individuality? It’s gonna be a good episode next week! You don’t wanna miss it! ;)    Danielle’s Instagram: Brody’s Instagram:  Danielle’s Today Show Article: Mom to Harry Styles critic: My son wears a dress too and it's OK. Here's why. And thank you to our sponsors: Jonas Paul Eyewear - Save 15% off by using the code COOLPARENTS15 at Disney Hits Playlist - Enjoy the magic of Disney Music anytime, anywhere! Disney Hits Playlist is available on all music streaming services! Dropps - visit and use the code hotmarriage to get 25% off your first order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 23, 2020
Ep. 96 Crystal Fairbanks Shares Her Amazing Birth Story Having 5 Children In 3 Pregnancies & The Struggle With Postpartum Depression!
We are SUPER excited to have Crystal Fairbanks, momma of a 6 year old, 3 year old, and triplets on the podcast today! She totally amazes us how she has been able to take care of all of her kiddos and during COVID! WHOA! She comes on and shares some struggles she has had with postpartum depression/anxiety, and she shares some ways that she has overcome it.    We hope you are encouraged that you are not alone and there should not be a stigma around mental health difficulties!   09:04 - Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents., Crystal! 10:25 - Crystal shares all about how she found out she was having triplets. 16:39 - Crystal shares the amazing help her family has had to help care for the triplets. 19:38 - Jamie asks Crystal what the anxiety symptoms were that she was experiencing. 31:35 - Jamie asks Crystal if she feels like she has overcome the postpartum depression? 35:47 - Doug asks Crystal if she breastfed the triplets? 38:47 - Jamie asks Crystal if her doctor ever recommended medication and what was the response from her family and friends? 39:00 - Jamie asks Crystal what are some of the things she has done to overcome the stress and anxiety causing depression?   Stay tuned for another great podcast episode next week!   Crystal’s Instagram   And thank you to our sponsors:   LinenFit - Go to, use the code hotmarriage, and get 20% off your purchase! Dropp - visit and use the code hotmarriage to get 25% off your first order! Native Deodorant - Check out their holiday selection! Go to or use the promo code hmcp for 20% off your first order! Order before December 7 to make sure that your products come just in time for Christmas! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 16, 2020
Ep. 95 We Had A Fight! Marriage Therapist, Jennifer Lehr Is Here To Help!
Gonna share this vulnerable chat with you guys about our marriage relationship because we KNOW that other people will benefit :) We have gotten kind of in the “thick” of life and just have struggled because we are SO busy!    We have Jennifer Lehr, she’s a licensed marriage and family therapist and the founder of WeConcile, an online program for committed couples seeking help. She’s an educator on the process of living, self-acceptance, and stepping into your magic life! Like many others, Jennifer grew up in a family with difficult family dynamics and she changed that by spending years working on her own issues, educating herself as well as being in training to work as a couples therapist.    We’re excited to hear all of the ways she suggests to help us care about each other’s feelings and voice our feelings in an appropriate way!   09:45 - Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents., Jen! 10:00 - Jen shares her background and why she does what she does! 12:32 - Jamie asks Jen how to handle the shifting dynamics of having kids? 17:49 - Jamie asks how do you handle the stress of kids needing things all the time and you’re tired? 27:32 - Jamie asks if she has any tips on how to go about a conversation with a child (example tell me why you don’t want to eat?) 33:54 - Jen shares about her online program, WeConcile, that is actually being developed into an app!   Jen’s Instagram: Jen’s Facebook: https//   And thank you to our sponsors: OnePlus - Go to the OnePlus website and try out their phones today! It charges in 15 minutes! Or Check them out on Instagram! #15MinuteChallenge #OnePlus8T #OnePlusPartner BlendJet - Go to right now to save an extra 12%! Calm App - Calm is offering a special limited time promotion of 40% off a Calm premium subscription at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 09, 2020
Ep. 94 Married at First Sight FAN FAVS, Greg & Deonna Pregnancy Update & Reaction to S11 Finale
We are SO excited to finally get to have Greg and Deonna on Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. You guys have been BEGGING us to have them on and here they are! :) Greg Okotie and Deonna McNeill Okotie were on Season 9 of Married at First Sight and became INSTANT fan favorites!    They are adorable and we are excited to hear what they are up to, all about their pregnancy, and chat ALL things Married at First Sight Season 11! Is it really already time to film Season 12?!? Time flies! Show Notes: 02:32 - Welcome, Greg and Deonna, to HMCP! Greg and Deonna give a pregnancy update! 06:31 - Doug asks when was the point where both Greg and Deonna got on board once the pregnancy test was positive? 09:16 - Jamie asks if they have decided if they want to find out the gender? 16:06 - Jamie asks if they are planning to use disposable or cloth diapers? 18:47 - Deonna and Jamie talk about having weird dreams during pregnancy and Deonna getting carpal tunnel! 23:00 - Let's talk Amelia and Bennett! 26:30 - Let's talk thoughts on Christina and Henry! 30:38 - Let's talk Miles and Karen! 34:28 - Let's talk Olivia and Brett! 39:33 - Last, but certainly not least, Woody and Amani! Stay tuned for another AWESOME podcast episode next week! Stay healthy, wash your hands...and come back next week to hang with us! 😊  Greg’s Instagram Deonna’s Instagram Greg & Deonna’s Facebook Page Akpesiri Clothing      Wifey 101: Everything I Got Wrong After Meeting Mr. Right - Autographed Copy on Jamie's website Wifey 101 on Amazon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 02, 2020
Ep. 93 Lolah from Girl Pride Africa Helps Pregnant Mommas and Saves So Many LIVES!
Today we have a very very special guest on the podcast, Lolah Mupotaringa, from Girl Pride Africa. Girl Pride Africa not only rescues girls from child marriages, but it also supports pregnant teens and orphans. This organization has rescued more than 2300 girls and provided accomodation, food, and mentoring to at least 3000 girls around Africa! We are so humbled and thankful to have Lolah on the podcast today! Lolah reached out to Jamie and shared her story, and we are asking you guys to consider giving towards Lolah's amazing non-profit! Grab your tissues, because this one is gonna be a tear jerker! Lolah is literally helping girls who are child brides - it's heartwrenching how these girls are treated by these older men! Show Notes: 16:42 - Welcome, Lolah, to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. 19:04 - Lolah shares about Girl Pride Africa and the daily work they are doing. 22:08 - Jamie shares with Lolah the struggles her mother had especially with the abuse she had, as well as the difficulties of taking care of her 5 kids 24:25 - Jamie asks Lolah if the girls there feel the same way as her mother, wanting to give up when things get tough 27:45 - Lolah shares the day to day life of taking care of these young girls and the many issues that will come up with the husbands. 28:59 - Lolah shares her background as well as her passion behind this work and why she is so ambitious about helping others. 32:15 - Jamie asks Lolah what is the age of the youngest girl who Lolah has helped and who has had a child? And where are her parents if she is so young? 34:50 - Jamie asks Lolah how we can help Girl Pride Africa? 41:55 - Next week we are switching gears to a bit more lighthearted and we are excited for you to hear from our guests! Giving Way Fundraiser for Girl Pride Africa Girl Pride Africa Facebook Page Girl Pride Africa Instagram Stay tuned! And don't forget all the things - wash your hands, wear your masks. Ya know. 😊 And thank you to our sponsor: LinenFit - Right now, LinenFit is offering our listeners 20% off their purchase sitewide at when they use the code HOTMARRIAGE at checkout! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Oct 26, 2020
Ep. 92 The Incredible POWER Couple, Shawn Johnson & Andrew East Are In Da HOUSE!
Andrew East, a college athlete, turned NFL player turned successful entrepreneur and host of the podcast Redirected, and his wife, Shawn Johnson East an Olympic Gold medal gymnast and DWTS champ are our awesome guests on this week’s podcast! Shawn and Andrew are Youtube STARS, athletes, podcasters and parents to an adorable baby girl! This power couples truly does it all!!!!! They got engaged in 2015 and were married a year later. Last year they welcomed their beautiful daughter, Drew Hazel East. They also have their own podcast called Couple Things!   Before we bring Andrew and Shawn on, Jamie takes a moment to share some deep thoughts and feelings about body positivity. Be watching Insta for details on her upcoming body positivity course!   Show Notes: 21:00 - Welcome to HMCP, Shawn and Andrew! 21:53 - Do you see gymnastics or football in Drew’s future? 22:29 - Is Shawn nervous at all for Drew to follow in her footsteps with gymnastics? 23:36 - What was Shawn’s experience like with body dysmorphia? 26:40 - How do you deal with “Mommy Shamers?” 29:03 - Are you currently trying to conceive? 32:08 - Were you scared to have sex while Shawn was pregnant? And what was it like postpartum? 36:12 - Have you thought about whether you may or may not want to deliver in the hospital because of COVID? 41:31 - Andrew, have you tried breast milk? 43:40 - As parents, are there any pet peeves you have of each other in parenting? 44:30 - What’s one thing that you appreciate about each other as parents?    You guys know the drill - wear your masks and wash your hands! :) Chat soon!   Andrew’s Instagram: Shawn’s Instagram: Drew’s Instagram: Couple Things Podcast:    And thank you to our sponsor: Native Deodorant - Do what I did, and make the switch to Native today by going to or use promo code hmcp at checkout to get 20% off your 1st order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Oct 19, 2020
Ep. 91 HENLEY GOT HURT! Her Trip to the Doctor & More!
It’s definitely been a busy few weeks including a quick family trip out to L.A.! We are back now and hope that our sharing the parenting struggles we have will help someone out there. We love you guys! We know we say it ALL the time, but you guys genuinely are the best ever!   So long story short, Henley was born with a piece of skin over her private area. The doctors told us it was fine and that it would eventually fix itself. Well she was playing in the house and ended up falling and tearing that skin… we didn’t know that was what it was at the time. It caused our sweet baby so much pain! My heart was broken in a million pieces! So we brought her to the doctors after a rough couple of days just to make sure she was okay.    We also chat about being thankful that we saw her get hurt since we are living in a new place, she's going to a new school and we have new babysitters, etc. and could have been worried about Henley being taken advantage of :-\ We also share our thoughts about how important it is to teach kids at a young age what the names are of their private parts, so that they know how to defend themselves if the need were to come!   Okay guys, till next week...make sure you register to vote! It’s important!   And thank you to our sponsor:   GreenChef - Use code hotmarriage80 to get $80 off your first month plus free shipping on your first box! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Oct 11, 2020
Ep. 90 Speech Therapy EXPERTS Brooke & Bridget Can Help Your Kiddos Talk!
Brooke & Bridget, sisters, speech therapists, and mommies to their own kiddos are our guests today! In 2012, the sisters opened up their private practice for speech therapy in California, and in 2018 they started an Instagram account to help parents help their kiddos develop their language & communication skills!    Before we bring Brooke and Bridget on, Doug and Jamie chat about the struggle to have sex (but they finally did!) and Jamie shares what she does to be able to always love her body and feel positive!     Show Notes: 02:37 - Doug and Jamie have big news! They finally, after over a year, had sex! 08:46 - Doug asks Jamie if she has any tips about getting to the point of being able to have sex and improving her libido. 11:23 - Jamie and Doug discuss their thoughts on the importance of having body positivity and that we should love our bodies no matter what! 17:06 - Welcome, Brooke and Bridget! 18:08 - Jamie asks, what made the 2 of you want to do this together? 20:00 - Doug asks, what are the first milestones and how long would it be for you to consider someone late to talk? 22:27 - Doug asks, how do you easily quantify the amount of words your child is saying? 23:29 (28:19) - Jamie asks, what do you recommend a mom or dad to do for their child at the point that speech intervention is needed? Or what can a parent do before that point? 29:45 - Jamie asks, what are some of the interventions that you guys talk about in your courses and on your Instagram page?  32:17 - Doug asks, is baby talk something that is harmful to child development? 35:08 - Doug asks, Henley sort of has a lisp when she says her s’s. Is that something that can be worked through or needs intervention? 39:03 - Jamie asks, when do you recommend switching to an open cup? 40:43 - Jamie asks, Since we had Hendrix, Henley has definitely regressed with speaking. She is whining a lot and talking like a baby - what should they do to help Henley? 44:13 - Jamie asks if they think it could be confusing to a child to have a very consistent nickname and regular name? 46:25 - Doug asks, what is some advice that you have for parents who are trying to help kids read things out loud? Especially with trying pronounce words? 53:56 - Next week - it’s a surprise! It’s gonna be epic!    Wash your hands twice 😊 Chat next week! Speech Sisters Instagram: Speech Sisters Website:   And thank you to our sponsors:   Jonas Paul Eyewear - save 15% off by going to and use code COOLPARENTS15.   PayPal - PayPal is making it easy to pay safely, quickly and easily. Download the PayPal app today! Terms and conditions apply.   Sweaty Betty - Now through November 1, get 20% off your ENTIRE purchase when you visit This is the best offer Sweaty Betty has available anywhere!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 27, 2020
Ep. 89 Money, Sex, Gender Role, Occupation - Your Biggest Assumptions & Our Honest Answers
We figured we would switch things up this week and get some feedback from you guys. We asked what are some assumptions you guys have of us, and let me tell ya, we got some good ones!    Show Notes: 04:52 - 1st assumption - Does Jamie do anything for Doug? He is so caring. 07:54 - 2nd assumption - You’re super in love and laugh all the time. 08:24 - 3rd assumption - I assume people recognize you immediately wherever you go. 12:11 - 4th assumption - Always assumed you guys are rich. 17:56 - 5th assumption - We will be working on baby #3 soon. Another assumption - I assume that now that you have 2 kids you may not have the 4 or 6. 24:40 - 6th assumption - You get packages all the time - too much mail. 27:30 - 7th assumption - I feel like you kind of forgot about Gracie after the baby was born. 29:07 - 8th assumption - That Doug does not cook. 31:55 - 9th assumption - Jamie is the boss in the relationship. 33:24 - 10th assumption - I’m worried you are getting more like friends. 37:53 - 11th assumption - Has Jamie quit nursing? 39:58 - 12th assumption - They have lots of laundry. 40:02 - 13th assumption - That Jamie, not Doug, wears the pants in the relationship. 40:30 - 14th assumption - That Doug and Jamie rarely spend time alone because of the kids. 43:53 - Next week is an awesome interview with the Speech Sisters - you guys are gonna love it!    And thank you to our sponsors:   Disney Hits Playlist - Enjoy the magic of Disney Music anytime, anywhere. Simply say, “Alexa, Play Disney Hits” or stream Disney Hits on your favorite music service! It is available on all music streaming services!   PayPal - PayPal is making it easy to pay safely, quickly and easily. Download the PayPal app today! Terms and conditions apply.   Native Deodorant - Do what I did, and make the switch to Native today by going to or use promo code hmcp at checkout to get 20% off your 1st order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 21, 2020
Ep. 88 - From Trailer Living to Yale Graduate - How Our Guest Mary Marantz Beat The Odds
We are super excited to welcome on to our podcast today the amazing Mary Marantz! She is a rockstar podcast host, speaker, and author! She grew up in a single-wide trailer in rural West Virginia. The first of her immediate family to go to college, she went on to earn a law degree from the nation's top-ranked law school, Yale. After ditching six-figure-salary law firm offers in London and New York, she started a business with her hubby, Justin. Together they have built a successful online education platform for creative entrepreneurs and She is also the host of the highly-ranked and popular podcast The Mary Marantz Show. Mary will release her first book, Dirt: Growing Strong Roots in What Makes the Broken Beautiful on September 15!    Doug is furniture shopping so before Mary comes on Jamie shares updates on their Florida home, how much Hendrix has grown, how it always is raining, Gracie is starting pre-k - what?!, and so much more! Show Notes: 12:49 - Welcome to the show, Mary!  13:40 - Jamie asks - what made you go down a different path in life? 15:57 - Doug asks - as a young girl that would go away to college, was your background something that you started to hide behind or something that you chose to wear on your sleeve? 16:52 - Jamie asks - how did writing about your trailer life get you into Yale? 18:06 - Jamie asks Mary to share more about her past in the trailer and what that was like? 24:07 - Doug asks - did you ever feel out of place going to college and to Yale? What advice do you have to find the motivation that you can do it! 31:07 - Jamie asks - what would you want to say to the young Mary who was growing up in the trailer? 34:13 - Doug asks - what do you mean by becoming/building something more can sometimes feel like a “betrayal” to the people who raised you. How do you balance those two? 42:22 - Jamie asks - what advice do you have on reconciling relationships whether they be with family members or partners? 48:56 - Next week we are answering ALL your assumptions about us!   Have a great week! Chat soon!   Mary’s Instagram: Mary's Book, Growing Strong Roots In What Makes The Broken Beautiful And thank you to our sponsor:   Disney Hits Playlist - Enjoy the magic of Disney Music anytime, anywhere. Simply say, “Alexa, Play Disney Hits” or stream Disney Hits on your favorite music service! It is available on all music streaming services! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 14, 2020
Ep. 87 Married at First Sight Make Up Artist Chat!
Hot Marriage. Cool Parents is coming to you live from LA this week!! Last weekend, Jamie went to LA to shoot for Married at First Sight: Unfiltered and she finally got to catch up with the whole crew! We are really excited to share this conversation between Alisha, Jamie's WONDERFUL makeup artist & Jamie! But first, Doug and chat about first impressions of the new MAFS couples meeting face to face, what life has been like at their new Florida home, not having sex for close to a year and so much more! Henley even comes on and talks and sings to everyone! Show Notes: 24:44 - Welcome, Alisha! 25:03 - Alisha and Jamie talk about Black Lives Matter and how Jamie didn't realize that racism is still prominent in our country! Alisha shares information about qualified immunity. 27:02 - Alisha and Jamie chat about how people who are on reality TV can become divas! 34:43 - Jamie and Alisha share how the conversations that you get to have with the girl doing your hair is like therapy! 35:47 - Alisha shares the story of her and her ex that she met online 46:34 - Alisha talks about the worst, best, and most annoying people that she has ever had in her chair! 50:03 - Alisha shares some basic makeup tips to make you look fresh and alive (facial prep oils, SUNSCREEN for EVERYONE, cc cream, mascara, and brow gel) Rapid Fire Questions for Alisha about working with MAFS stars: 54:50 - Who is her favorite person to work on from all time MAFS? 55:18 - Who is the most difficult person to work with on MAFS? 55:50 - Who is the funniest person to work with on MAFS? 56:16 - Who is the sweetest person to work with on MAFS? 56:25 - Who is her favorite expert to work on? 56:51 - Who is the most annoying person to work with? Not necessarily in the makeup chair? 57:12 - Jamie introduces everyone to her producer, Jeff, who is behind the scenes who does it ALL! And it's time for Jamie to go on set, so until next week - stay tuned! 😊 58:46 - Next week on the podcast we have the very inspirational Mary Marantz joining us to share her story! We say it every week, but please wash your hands and wear your masks! Love you! And thank you to our sponsors: Sweaty Betty - Now through November 1st​ get 20% OFF your ENTIRE purchase when you visit SWEATYBETTY.COM/HMCP. This is the BEST OFFER Sweaty Betty has available ANYWHERE! Disney Hits Playlist - Enjoy the magic of Disney Music anytime, anywhere. Simply say, “Alexa, Play Disney Hits” or stream Disney Hits on your favorite music service! It is available on all music streaming services! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 07, 2020
Ep. 86 - One of Our Super Frans Finds His Family Through DNA Test After Hearing Jamie’s Story!
Hot Marriage. Cool Parents is coming to you live from Florida for the next few months! Doug and Jamie are super excited to be in the sunny weather! It is going to be fun trying to get the house all set up!   We are really excited to share this interview with you today! We brought on some of our awesome frans, Tim & Kelli Dexter, to share a really inspiring story!    For those of you who don’t know, after over 30 years of searching Jamie finally found her father through a DNA service. Kelli reached out to Jamie through social media because her husband’s story is very similar and after many years he has finally found his biological mother and siblings! We think stories like this are super inspiring so we wanted to invite them onto the podcast to share their story!    We always love to hear from you when what we share inspires you guys to take action! Let us know if you want to hear more of these stories!    Show Notes:   08:34 - Welcome to the show, Tim and Kelli!  08:51 - Tim shares how he grew up and when he found out he was adopted as well as why he wanted to seek out his biological family. 10:46 - Tim shares what the results were when he did the health history and the ancestry. 13:38 - Doug asks if he had any information before the test was done to find his family? 14:23 - Doug asks if his adopted parents ever had the conversation with him about looking for his biological family? 15:02 - Jamie asks what was it that made him want to connect to his biological mom? 17:17 - Doug asks how it went when they first attempted to reach out to family? 21:39 - Jamie asks if it was a surprise for his biological sister to find out that she has a brother? 26:20 - Doug asks what is the relationship like now and have they set any expectations for the future?   Stay healthy and show love to others and yourself :)   Kelli’s Instagram:   And thank you to our sponsor:   Disney Hits Playlist - Enjoy the magic of Disney Music anytime, anywhere. Simply say, “Alexa, Play Disney Hits” or stream Disney Hits on your favorite music service! It is available on all music streaming services! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 31, 2020
Ep. 85 Surrogacy Blogger Breanna Lockwood Chooses Her MOM As Her Surrogate!
Breanna Lockwood, mama to be, IG blogger, and fertility awareness advocate and her mama, Julie Loving are our guests today! Breanna has a VERY special story to share with us today, one that is unique and beautiful! After going through a difficult journey to getting pregnant, Breanna turned to surrogacy and let’s just say, she found her PERFECT MATCH! Today we are interviewing Breanna and her mama, Julie Loving, aka, Breanna’s SURROGATE!  Before we bring Breanna on, Doug and Jamie chat about what's been going on with life lately, including Henley's 3rd birthday, HPV update, and traveling to Florida! Show Notes: 04:57 - Jamie's sister is naming her son Jayme after her! Jamie shares how honored she feels! 06:52 - Jamie gives update on HPV and the LEEP procedure she had. 13:55 - Doug and Jamie talk about Henley’s struggle with defiance with taking naps. 21:09 - Doug and Jamie talk about their upcoming trip to Florida and getting a fence to put around their pool! 28:56 - Welcome, Breanna! Breanna shares her fertility journey and the struggles she has had to overcome. 30:30 - Doug asks how long Breanna and her husband have been together? They discuss struggles with self guilt. 32:35 - Doug asks how many rounds of IVF Breanna went through? 32:59 - Jamie asks if they have any answers as to why it didn’t work out for Breanna? 34:07 - Doug asks at what point did Breanna consider surrogacy and how was she introduced to it? 36:06 - Jamie asks how old her mom, Julie, is and was she always willing to be a surrogate? 39:17 - Doug asks Breanna what her husband’s reaction to all of this? 40:51 - Doug asks Breanna if her mom had to go through testing and was there a concern that she may not be able to carry the baby? Did she have a plan B if it didn’t work out? 42:18 - Jamie asks if the baby is a boy or girl. 42:28 - Doug asks for clarification about the surrogacy process. 44:23 - Jamie asks Julie how far along she is? And how do they both feel now that she is past the age of viability? 46:45 - Jamie asks what are other things that surrogates have to do to carry the baby? 47:45 - Doug asks Julie what her husband's thoughts were on all of this? 48:05 - Jamie asks how has the pandemic made the pregnancy difficult? 49:36 - Doug asks Julie about her birth plan. 50:47 - Doug asks if Julie plans to breastfeed the baby. 53:33 - Doug asks what future plans are for more children. 57:33 - Next week’s guest is a surprise! Stay tuned!   PLEASE wear your face masks! We love you guys!   Breanna’s Instagram: And thank you to our sponsors: Jonas Paul Eyewear - Save 15% off on a new pair of prescription glasses by using the code COOLPARENTS15 at Green Chef - Use code hotmarriage80 to get $80 off your 1st month PLUS free shipping on your 1st box! Go to to redeem the offer! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 24, 2020
Ep. 84 The Hilarious & Amazing Actress and Comedian Lauren Lapkus Talks Hollywood Life Under Quarantine & Her Love for MAFS!
We are SO excited to have the absolutely HILARIOUS Lauren Lapkus with us on the podcast today! Oh my goodness, this girl is SO talented! She's an American actress, comedian, and impressionist and she is known for portraying Susan Fischer on Orange is the New Black and Jess in the HBO series Crashing, and she is the BIGGEST star of Jamie's favorite movie on Netflix, the Wrong Missy! She's also a MAFS fan! Wow - we are thrilled to be able to chat with her!   Welcome, Lauren! Before we bring Lauren on, Doug gives an update on their Florida home and shares his thoughts about potentially becoming a full time stay-at-home dad!   Show Notes: 20:15 - Doug, Jamie, and Lauren chat about the Wrong Missy and Lauren talks about her podcast, Newcomers. 21:57 - Lauren shares how she got involved with acting. 23:28 - Jamie asks Lauren what it was like starting out and then having her breakthrough of being the lead role in a hit movie? 25:00 - Lauren talks about what it is like working closely with Adam Sandler. 25:48 - Lauren talks about opportunities to improv in The Wrong Missy. 27:17 - Doug asks Lauren if she had any romantic feelings toward David Spade? 28:27 - Lauren talks about how weird it can be to film making out and sex scenes as a married woman. 30:32 - Lauren shares about her love for MAFS, and especially Doug and Jamie's season! 31:56 - Doug asks Lauren about filming the fish scene in The Wrong Missy. 34:00 - How is the quarantine affecting Lauren's jobs? 35:18 - Jamie asks Lauren about season 2 of her podcast, Newcomers. 38:05 - Jamie asks Lauren which season of MAFS is the most memorable? 41:00 - Doug, Jamie, and Lauren chat about the current season of MAFS as well as their interest in 90 Day Fiance. 48:28 - Lauren tells listeners all of the different films and specials she has taken part in. 49:42 - Doug asks Lauren what it's like working with Netflix? 50:24 - Doug asks Lauren how she and her husband met? We have some exciting interviews lined up! Stay tuned! AND Please stay well, everyone! 😘WEAR YOUR MASKS!   Lauren’s Instagram: And thank you to our sponsors: Jonas Paul Eyewear - Go to and use code COOLPARENTS15 to get 15% off! GreenChef - Use code hotmarriage80 to get $80 off your first month plus free shipping on your box! Go to to redeem and for more details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 17, 2020
Ep. 83 Dibs Baer DISHES With Us About Celebs and MAFS!
SO excited to have Dibs Baer on the podcast with us today! She's one of our favorite people in the whole wide world! She's an L.A. based entertainment writer and author/co-author of many great books, including Wifey 101 - Jamie's book! One of our favorites that she wrote is Lady Tigers in the Concrete Jungle! Check it out! Dibs had a 15 year stretch in NYC and was the executive editor of In Touch Weekly and worked on staff at Cosmo Girl, Lifetime and Ladies Home Journal - you won't even believe the people that she interviewed!!! ALSO! We have reached 2 MILLION downloads on our podcast! We're having a big giveaway! Show Notes: 06:01 - Welcome, Dibs! 06:20 - Doug asks Dibs out of all the people she has interviewed, who did she like the LEAST? 07:47 - Dibs shares that one of her favorite interviews was with Mariah Carey. 08:17 - Doug asks Dibs where she developed the passion for writing? 09:28 - Jamie asks Dibs what she thinks about Ellen because people really don't like her right now! 14:26 - Jamie asks Dibs what she thinks about Jennifer Garner and Bradley Cooper?! 17:25 - Dibs shares a story about interviewing Katie Holmes. 18:57 - Jamie asks Dibs what are some things that she has overheard about celebs while being with them in their homes? 20:00 - Dibs and Doug and Jamie talk about what is going on with Britney Spears. 23:45 - Doug asks Dibs how she walked the fine line between being friendly and choosing the right words to put out in the tabloids? 25:00 - Jamie asks are the tabloids factual? 26:00 Doug asks Dibs if she ever ran into any circumstances where celebrities were trying to get their names back into the tabloids? 37:22 - Dibs, who are your favorite couples this season? What do you think is going to happen with the adoption vs biological kids situation because Amelia definitely wants children? 42:46 - What are your thoughts on Henry and Christina? 46:55 - Jamie asks what Dibs thinks of the fact that Woody has admitted that he has cheated before? 51:11 - What do you think about Miles and Karen? Until next week, wear your masks, wash your hands, and stay tuned! We love you guys lots! And thank you to our sponsor: Native Deodorant - Go to or use promo code hmcp at checkout to get 20% off your first order! Jonas Paul Eyewear - Save 15% off on a new pair of prescription glasses by using the code COOLPARENTS15 at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 10, 2020
Ep. 82 Chemo During Pregnancy? Sangela Martins Shares How She Overcome Ovarian Cancer WHILE PREGNANT!
We are SUPER blessed to have Sangela Martins, mama of 2, wife, and ovarian cancer survivor on HMCP today! Sangela’s story is unique because when she was pregnant with her second kiddo, she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer after doctors spotted a cyst on her ovary at her 14-week pregnancy scan. She and her daughter fought through it and now she has a beautiful baby and is cancer-free! We are SO happy for her! Sangela uses her platform to spread awareness about ovarian cancer and we hope that it helps any ladies right now that are fighting a similar battle!   Before we bring Sangie on, Doug and Jamie talk about the option of name changes, their recent trip back to Jamie’s hometown (the family got to meet Hendrix!!), the struggles during Jamie’s childhood, and the passing away of Jamie’s step-dad. Jamie shares about how proud she is of her siblings breaking the cycle!   Doug and Jamie also chat about the new season of MAFS and share who their favorite couple is!    Show Notes:   23:29 - Sangela shares how she found out she had ovarian cancer and what it was like finding that out while pregnant. 34:21 - Doug, Jamie and Sangie talk about how in a way her daughter inside had saved her life! Doug asks if there was ever a chance that the treatments could have hurt the baby. 38:14 - Jamie asks how long did she have to have chemo while pregnant?  38:47 - Jamie asks if there were any sort of side effects she had while being pregnant? 39:51 - Doug asks if Sangie was always planning to do an unmedicated birth? 42:06 - Jamie asks what was the toughest part of the whole situation? 43:44 - Jamie asks Sangie to share what she would say to someone going through a similar situation? 50:22 - Next week on the podcast we DISH all about MAFS!   Be kind to yourself this week. Love you ALL.     Sangela’s Instagram:   And thank you to our sponsor:   Jonas Paul Eyewear - Save 15% off on a new pair of prescription glasses by using the code COOLPARENTS15 at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 03, 2020
Ep. 81 YouTube Stars Harold & Rachel Earls Chat With Us About Mt. Everest, Relationships, & SO MUCH MORE!
We are SUPER excited to share this podcast episode with you guys! We got the opportunity to talk with Harold and Rachel Earls from the Earls Family Vlogs on YouTube! Guys, they are SO incredibly inspiring! They are authors, youtubers, and parents to Wyatt and Leo. Rachel spends her time vlogging and running her successful business, Earl’s Family Foundation. Captain Harold is an active duty Army Officer currently serving as the commander of the guard of the tomb of the unknown soldier. Their YouTube channel has over ½ a million subscribers and its where they love God, love people, make a difference, and they are thankful!    They come on to the podcast to chat about Harold climbing Mt. Everest, married life, their new book coming out, and so much more! But before we bring them on, Doug and Jamie take turns answering some thought provoking questions!     Show Notes: 02:16 - Doug and Jamie answer “3000 questions.” Well not really 3000, but they answer some questions that you may not know! :) Question 1: What is your idea of perfect happiness? 05:23 - Question 2: What is your greatest fear? 06:34 - Question 3: What is the trait you most deplore in yourself? 08:17 - Question 4: What’s your greatest extravagance? 09:35 - Question 5: What’s your current state of mind? 10:11 - Question 6: What’s the most under-rated virtue? 12:26 - Question 7: On what occasion do you lie? 14:51 - Question 8: What do you most dislike about your appearance? 16:42 - Question 9: Which living person do you most despise? 17:24 - Question 10: What is the quality you most like in a man? 18:59 - Question 11: Which words or phrases do you most overuse? 20:06 - Question 12: What or who is the greatest love of your life? 20:42 - Question 13: When and where were you happiest? 23:22 - Question 14: Which talent would you most like to have? 32:02 - Welcome to the show, Harold and Rachel! Rachel shares about the Earl’s Family Foundation. 33:51 - The Earl’s talk about their newly released book, A Higher Calling, which made the national bestselling list! 33:46 - Jamie asks them to share about their journey together. 36:02 - Doug asks what was the biggest challenge gearing up for Mt. Everest? 38:56 - Doug asks about their mission to draw attention to veteran suicide and people facing PTSD. 40:02 - Jamie asks what advice do they have for anyone who is anxious or fearful? 42:58 - Jamie asks them to share what helps to maintain their strong relationship with each other? 47:38 - Doug asks when they started to feel a sense of community with their YouTube channel? 50:18 - Doug asks if Harold always wanted to go to West Point? 52:30 - The Earls chat about their book release and the events surrounding it and why they waited to release the book. 55:49 - Doug asks what’s next for the Earls Family?   Have a great week, everyone! Chat again soon!     Rachel’s Instagram: Harold’s Instagram: Earl’s Family YouTube: Earl’s Family Website for their book:   And thank you to our sponsors: Jonas Paul Eyewear - Save 15% off on a new pair of prescription glasses by using the code COOLPARENTS15 at   Betabrand - Get 25% off your first order for a limited time at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 25, 2020
Ep. 80 Real Talk with Rock Star Birthing Doula and Former Bachelor Contestant, Liz Sandoz!
We are SO lucky to have the amazingly beautiful Liz Sandoz with us on the podcast today! She’s a birth doula, she’s a podcaster of Miraculous Mamas, a wife, and a former Bachelor contestant. Liz’s podcast is all about empowering women through education and storytelling. She aims to bring light to the trying to conceive community and different pregnancy journeys in general and she also is pregnant herself and due in just a few weeks!   Welcome, Liz! Before we bring Liz on, Doug and Jamie have some fun playing this or that and learning new things! 😜     Show Notes:    3:34 - Doug and Jamie talk about their interest in the Howard Stern Show. 6:55 - Jamie shares that she is trying to add fun into her life because she has ranked for PPD. 10:48 - Doug and Jamie play a game of this or that! 22:52 - Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents, Liz! 23:04 - Jamie asks: What happened to her 1st podcast, Babes and Babies? 23:38 - Jamie asks: What was it like to be on the Bachelor? 26:25 - Doug asks: Did the Bachelor experience make Liz think about her future husband more? Did it help with getting more in the mindset of stability? 28:51 - Doug asks: What was her birth plan before the pandemic? Has it changed? And what is she doing now? 32:24 - Jamie asks: Can you explain what the difference is between a midwife and a doula and why doulas are so important? 39:37 - Doug asks: What is the spouse’s role during labor? 42:07 - Jamie asks: How have you been in limiting anxiety during your pregnancy? What are some things you have done? 44:31 - Jamie asks: What do you have planned for yourself in the last couple months before your baby comes? 46:54 - Next week on the podcast, the Earl Family! They are YouTubers with a very inspirational story! Stay tuned!   Please stay well, everyone! 😘   Liz’s Instagram: Miraculous Mama’s Instagram: Miraculous Mama’s Blog:   And thank you to our sponsor: Nutrafol: You can grow thicker, healthier hair by going to and using promo code HMCP and new customers will get 20% off – this is their best offer available anywhere. Plus FREE shipping on EVERY order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 18, 2020
Ep. 79 Lifesaving Parenting Tips from Toddler Experts - Big Little Feelings! Part 2
We’re so glad you guys LOVED Kristin and Deena from Big Little Feelings! We didn’t get to share all of the questions we discussed last week, so here are the other parts to the interview! We cannot stop talking about how helpful these ladies are and just how much they have saved our SANITY!   Show Notes:   02:30 - Jamie shares that there is a different dynamic in this MAFS season! Don’t miss it! 03:14 - Jamie asks if it is good or bad to try to manipulate your kids into doing something? She uses the example of Doug whining to convince Henley to take a bite of food. 07:44 - What can we do about all the whining from our toddlers? 08:45 - Kristin and Deena share about the 10 minute miracle. 09:29 - Doug and Jamie talk about how even adults need a 10 minute miracle! Or maybe even 15 minutes! 10:17 - Jamie asks how do you know when your child is ready to potty train and what advice do you have for success? 15:11 - Doug asks what are your thoughts on rewarding kids during potty training? 17:28 - Doug asks if they know if the poop fairy comes to NJ? 😆 17:52 - Jamie asks what is their number one piece of advice when it comes to discipline? 18:10 - The #1 tip is never try to teach the lesson in an emotionally heightened moment! 19:38 - Kristin and Deena share how to calmly talk to your child when they are frustrated. 20:10 - Kristin and Deena share about their upcoming toddler course they have coming soon! 21:05 - One final question, what is the best advice for sleep training your toddler? 27:12 - Next week on the podcast is Liz Sandoz! She was on the Bachelor, and she is currently a doula! We are gonna ask her all sorts of questions - you don’t want to miss it!   Like we say every week! Please think of others and wear a mask! 😘 Big Little Feelings Instagram - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 13, 2020
Ep. 78 Lifesaving Parenting Tips from Toddler Experts - Big Little Feelings! Part 1
Doug and I aren’t always on the same page when it comes to parenting. We really try to make the rules together and stick to them so that we are a united front with these kids, but sometimes we find ourselves in situations where we literally have no idea what to do!    We are SUPER lucky this week to be able to have toddler EXPERTS, Kristin and Deena, on the podcast this week! Deena is a child therapist and a parent coach, and Kristin is a momma of two toddlers. Together they share the most PRACTICAL tips for handling toddlers on their Instagram page, Big Little Feelings!  Welcome to Hot Marriage. Cool Parents, Kristin and Deena! We’re so glad you are joining us!!!   Show Notes: 00:21 - Henley Grace is here on the podcast to chat with you! 04:00 - Jamie shares an update from her 6 weeks postpartum appointment and shares the current information on her being HPV positive. 07:58 - Doug and Jamie share that if you would like to talk about your story in an anonymous way, comment on Instagram! 08:13 - Jamie shares that it is important that we share our stories because otherwise no one will feel comfortable enough to get treatment! 10:24 - Jamie shares that she found out that she has a cyst on her vaginal wall that doesn’t hurt so she is leaving it there for now! 16:53 - It’s time to welcome on Deena and Kristin to the show! 17:00 - Jamie asks the toddler experts their advice on transitioning a toddler from a crib to a toddler bed. 19:33 - Doug asks what signs do you look for or are there any tips for preparing your toddler’s mind for the switch? 24:02 - Doug shares that no one could have prepared for teaching kids at home during quarantine. He asks what are recommendations as to how many activities parents should be doing at home with their toddlers? Are there too many activities? 27:02 - Doug asks, what are some ways to respond to a child that will only say no?  30:50 - Jamie shares how thankful she is for their Instagram page which gives daily nuggets of wisdom. 31:33 - Jamie asks what is the right parental reaction to when a child doesn’t respond to the this or that option? 33:22 - Doug gets vulnerable and shares about a parenting struggle he recently had with Henley. 35:57 - Next week on the podcast we answer WILD questions about us! It’s gonna be a fun one!   Wear your masks, people! Let’s kick this pandemic! Thank you to our sponsors: The Daily Smile Podcast - Anyone looking for a pick-me-up or stories that will remind you of how good people can be, subscribe to The Daily Smile hosted by Nikki Boyer on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the Wondery app. It’s guaranteed to leave you with a smile on your face! Native Deodorant - Make the switch to Native today by going to or use promo code hmcp at checkout to get 20% off your 1st order! Big, Little Feelings Instagram - Big Little Feelings website - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 06, 2020
Ep. 77 Jamie & Doug Answer Your Questions on Sex, Family Plans, and Everything in Between! Part 2
You guys had so many awesome questions and we didn’t get to nearly all of them last week so we are back again this week to answer more!! We’re wide open books over here!    Show Notes:   04:05 - Q1 - Will you be doing a homebirth for your future pregnancies? 09:44 - Q2 - What’s going on with your sex life?   13:52 - Q3 - Jamie, what is your last name? Is it Otis or Hehner? 16:21 - Q4 - Do you stay in touch with your MAFS fam?  16:50 - Q5 - Is Hendrix tongue tied? 18:09 - Q6 - Jamie, why do you call Henley, Gracie?  20:13 - Q7 - Are you letting your family hold or touch the kids yet? 22:44 - Q8 - Update on Jamie’s biopsy? 23:10 - Q9 - How is Henley’s potty training going? 25:26 - Q10 & Q11 - Jamie, when did you realize that the experts were correct and you were in love with Doug?  28:50 - Q12 - Why did you change Hendrix’s name from Hayes to Hendrix?  32:43 - Next week we have two ladies from the Instagram account, Big Little Feelings! They are literally Jamie’s toddler Bible!!! They will be sharing different parenting tips, especially navigating toddler life!   Wash your hands and wear your masks! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 28, 2020
Ep. 76 Jamie & Doug Answer Your Questions on Sex, Family Plans, and Everything in Between! Part 1
You guys have lots of questions for us and we are answering all the things! We are excited for you to get to know us more :) And Hendrix is podcasting with us this week!   AND! You guys had so many awesome questions that we didn’t get to them all, so there will definitely be a part 2 in the very near future!   Show Notes: 03:20 - Jamie shares that Hendrix is officially 1 month old! He weighs 12 lbs and 6.5 oz! Big Boy! 05:53 - Jamie talks about how Doug sleeps like a dead person!  07:29 - Q1 - How did you deal with anxiety in early pregnancy? 10:24 - Q2 - Do you want more kids? If so, WHEN will you start trying? How old will Hendrix be when you start trying again? 12:01 - Q3 - Is there an update on the Florida house/moving down there? 13:21 - Q4 - How do you keep the romance alive and have things changed in that department going from 1 kid to 2? 14:54 - Q5 - Any tips for having a homebirth? Things you’d do differently or advice you have? 24:06 - Q6 - When will you start having sex again and what is is like having mismatched libidos? Any advice on having sex after having a kid? 27:09 - Q7 - How has Henley been now that she is a big sissy? Is she reacting well to the change? 30:22 - Q8 - Has a second baby strengthened your marriage? 32:12 - Q9 - Have you been to South Africa? What are other places you want to travel to? 34:08 - Q10 - How do you feel about MAFS now? Do you feel some people are just doing it for fame?   More to come! Stay well, you guys!   And thank you to our sponsors: Nutrafol - You can grow thicker, healthier hair by going to and use promo code HMCP to get 20% OFF - this is their best offer available ANYWHERE! Plus free shipping on EVERY order! Warby Parker - Go to and try Warby Parker’s free Home Try-On program! Order 5 pairs of glasses to try at home for free for 5 days – there’s no obligation to buy! Ships free and includes a pre-paid return shipping label. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 20, 2020
Ep. 75 How Teen Mom Yasmyn Switzer Became a BOSS BABE!
This week on the podcast we have 19 year old boss BABE and YouTube sensation, Yasmyn Switzer! She is a teen momma of 2 and SO inspiring! She comes on the show to talk to us about her story and how she has overcome SO MUCH in life!   But first, Doug and Jamie give an update on how parenting two is going, and they surprise FaceTime Doug’s brother, Matt and his wife, Carrie, to talk about food allergies!   Show Notes:   01:18 - Henley is in a sleep regression - hopefully it will go away soon! :\ 02:35 - Jamie shares that Hendrix is such a good sleeper! 03:29 - Doug recommends watching Couples Cam - there are 9 couples that were married at first sight and Couples Cam follows them around!  05:17 - Doug asks Jamie how she is feeling since struggling with the 4th trimester. 06:01 - Doug tells Jamie that her right breast is his favorite! 06:49 - Doug and Jamie share that they think it is possible that Hendrix has a tongue tie. 10:22 - Doug shares that his mom said that when introducing eggs, you should separate the egg white and the egg yolk - we gotta get this figured out!  14:37 - Doug and Jamie surprise FaceTime his brother to ask him about separating the egg yolk and egg white! He shares that you also aren’t supposed to use butter when introducing foods either! 22:59 - Welcome to the podcast, Yasmyn! 23:22 - Yasmyn shares her background and how she ended up going through her pregnancy alone, aside from the support of her aunt. 24:29 - Jamie asks Yasmyn if she is helping to take care of her two younger sisters. Jamie shares that they have similar backstories with helping take care of siblings. 26:32 - Doug asks her how people took the news of being pregnant at such a young age. 27:38 - Doug asks if she considered adoption at all. 28:43 - Jamie asks Yasmyn to share about what happened with her first baby’s dad. 30:44 - Jamie asks Yasmyn what is one of the toughest things she has had to overcome, like what are some of the challenges of being a teen mom? 32:13 - Jamie commends Yasmyn for working so hard on her YouTube channel! 32:25 - Doug asks at what point she realized she might be able to make a career out of YouTube. 35:16 - Doug and Jamie ask Yasmyn if she has had any backlash over parenting choices. 36:13 - Doug asks Yasmyn if her second pregnancy was planned or not. 37:49 - Jamie asks Yasmyn what is her proudest accomplishment and what gives her the strong drive and work ethic? 39:33 - Doug asks if Yasmyn’s relationship with her mother has changed at all? Jamie shares how proud she is of Yasmyn for giving so much grace towards her mother. 42:16 - Yasmyn shares how she and Logan met. 45:07 - Yasmyn shares that she had an all-natural birth for both pregnancies! 45:45 - Jamie shares that she is Yasmyn’s biggest fan - she is SO proud of her! 46:24 - Yasmyn shares her goals for her future. 48:24 - Yasmyn shares how many kids she would like to have! 51:32 - Next week we have toddler experts Kristin and Deena from Big Little Feelings on Instagram to chat all things toddler tips!     Chat soon!   And thank you to our sponsor: ExpressVPN - Go to to get the first 3 months of ExpressVPN for FREE!   Yasmyn Switzer’s Instagram: @yasmynswitzer Yasmyn’s YouTube:   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 15, 2020
Ep. 74 How to Stand Up to Racism with Founders of Privilege to Progress
We’re going to sound incredibly ignorant to some of you - but we strongly believe in being fully transparent and honest. We have been ignorant. We have had rose colored glasses on - or maybe just no glasses on because we weren’t SEEING what we were hearing. Racism. The black communty has been screaming it still exists. We never really knew what side to believe so we just moved on with life.  UNTIL WE WATCHED THE VIDEO OF GEORGE FLOYD.  We have a lot to learn about racism in our country, and we WANT to do better. We want to educate ourselves as much as we can for the sake of our family, friends, and community as well as for our kiddos.  On the podcast today, we are ​honored​ to have with us two AMAZING ladies, Melissa DePino and Michele Saahene. They met in 2018 in a Philadelphia Starbucks after having witnessed and stood up to racism. Together they started From Privilege to Progress, a national movement to desegregate the public conversation about race. They lead the way for anti-racism by learning, speaking, and amplifying the voice of people of color on social media. Welcome, Melissa and Michele!  Show Notes:    02:34 - Jamie says thank you to frans for all of their support through this 4th trimester! 06:53 - Jamie shares that she has been trying to spend time educating herself in order that they can teach their kids how to speak out against racism. 08:10 - Jamie shares that she was searching online for how to speak out against racism and she came upon a Forbes article and liked the article so much she wanted to have the ladies on the podcast! 10:27 - Michele shares how she and Melissa first met at Starbucks and how they joined together against racism after witnessing racial discrimination against two black guys who would not buy coffee. 16:46 - Michele talks about confronting the Starbucks barista. 22:48 - Melissa shares that it is important to talk about the moment that you find out you are white - for Jamie and Doug it was when they saw the video of George Floyd; at that point now that their lens gets cleansed, now is the time to relearn everything you knew and try to understand others. 24:14 - We have to look within ourselves and make changes but also work towards systemic change. The ladies share that policing was based on white supremacy. They were originally slave patrol. That is still going on today!  25:24 - In order to understand, we have to LISTEN. 27:58 - Michele and Melissa talk about what we can do to stand up against racism. Even just interrupting conversations and ask people to reflect on what they are saying.  30:27 - Michele shares that she didn’t learn anything about her people growing up - education is the #1 thing to do to understand about the black communities! 32:58 - Jamie encourages listeners to start trying to make a stand! You can be a part of the change by checking yourself when you are with others.  34:20 - Jamie shares that she doesn’t believe all white people are bad, all cops are bad, all black people are bad, she just believes there can be a bad apple in the bunch and it takes the rest to help filter that bad apple out! 37:03 - Next week on the podcast, YouTube star and teen momma, Yasmyn Switzer!    Be the change! Educate yourselves so you can be GOOD apples! We love you guys!    From Privilege to Progress Instagram: @privtoprog Website: ​ Forbes Article: n/#29dca4057c53 13th on Netflix - ​ Scene on Radio - Seen White - ​  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 08, 2020
Ep. 73 Very Emotional Fourth Trimester During a Pandemic
Fair warning - this is a really raw and vulnerable episode! The 4th trimester has been ROUGH to say the least. But we WILL make it through - together!  Show Notes:   01:07 - Jamie shares that it really is hard having a baby during the pandemic! 03:41 - Jamie shares that parenting a second child is still difficult and it feels like a whole new world! 04:55 - Doug and Jamie talk about how they are trying really hard to make sure that their kids don’t feel like they have to compete for their love and attention. 05:55 - Jamie shares her struggles with feeling like she is letting Henley down by not being able to help her at times. She shares that she thinks she is dealing with postpartum blues. 10:00 - Jamie shares that she and Doug are struggling with parenting two kids and they are wanting to try to do couple’s counseling. 13:38 - Jamie shares that she doesn’t like who she is right now and how she is struggling through the 4th trimester. 15:15 - Jamie shares that she is working hard at getting better. She also shares that one positive of this time is that she doesn’t care about her body image postpartum.  18:00 - Doug shares that the pandemic takes a toll and assures Jamie that his family does understand that they cannot hold the babies even though Jamie is struggling with it. 19:45 - Doug and Jamie talk about how they watched a documentary and are beginning the vegan lifestyle to get healthier - they are loving spinach right now! 21:40 - Doug shares that he and Jamie will conquer the postpartum blues together! 22:19 - Jamie shares that she doesn’t want anyone to think she is perfect and great all of the time because that’s not the real world! She doesn’t want to make anyone feel bad about themselves! 23:40 - Next week we will be doing a Q&A to answer any and all questions you have! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 05, 2020
Ep. 72 Jamie and Doug's Home Birth Story Quarantined
Baby Hendrix is here!!! This episode is all about our home birth, and we get into ALL the details about what happened that day! He came SO fast!!! We’re recording from our bedroom on this episode because Jamie is still taking it easy, so you will hear baby Hendrix and Gracie some in the background! We’re definitely learning to adjust with 2 kiddos :)     Show Notes:   02:00 - Jamie shares that next week’s episode will be all about the 4th trimester - PSA it might get a little intimate! 03:10 - Doug shares that even with all the crazy it was SUCH a great day!!! 03:20 - Jamie shares that all the masks were sent out if you requested one! 04:54 - Doug and Jamie share about Hendrix’s birth story. 05:58 - Jamie shares that they thought for sure he would come early but he actually came 1 day AFTER her due date! 07:34 - Jamie shares that she was ready for Baby Hendrix to come out because he was a big boy!  08:20 - Doug shares that before labor, he felt like they were totally prepared and that he felt in his gut everything would be great! 09:20 - Doug commends Jamie for mentally preparing for this labor! He tells Jamie she is amazing :) Jamie shares what all she did to prepare for the labor. 11:30 - Doug and Jamie shared that she was constantly thinking “I can endure anything for 1 minute!” 12:03 - Jamie learned through Ina Gaskin’s book that positive affirmations are SO important. She also learned and kept in her mind the idea that any pain she was going through, Hendrix was also going through and she needed to stay strong and one with her son!  13:23 - Jamie shares that she doesn’t believe that you can have an orgasm after birth even though some women swear that you can! 13:48 - Jamie shares that Doug had given her a back massager for Mother’s Day and she asked him to rub her feet while she used the back massager on her back. Doug thinks the joy of the massager and the footrub was what put her in labor! 15:38 - Jamie shares that her biggest fear was that the baby would have shoulder dystocia (where the baby gets stuck inside) - this can be very dangerous even in the hospital! 16:50 - By 10 am Jamie realized that the contractions were getting more intense and she was SO excited! She started timing the contractions at precisely 12:19 pm. 18:17 - Zoe, our assistant, has been quarantining with Doug and Jamie and they both give her a big shoutout for all of her help that day! 20:21 - Jamie shares that she did a Baby Mama dance on TikTok that she hasn’t shared yet! 21:44 - Jamie shares that they also had 2 previous assistants (who are like sisters to her) come over to help that day, too! 22:29 - Jamie shares how sorry she is to frans that she didn’t get to go livestream on Instagram for the birth. She really wished she could have and hopes that frans can understand and forgive her! She is so sad that she let some people down ;( 27:23 - Jamie says a huge THANK YOU to those of you who said such kind words and were so supportive after she wasn’t able to go live on Instagram for the birth. 28:30 - Doug shares that even though they didn’t get to go live, they did film everything for Couples Cam and for YouTube. Couples Cam starts on May 20! Not sure when the intimate details on YouTube will be up - stay tuned! 33:07 - Jamie shares that one of the ways to ease her pain during labor was to squeeze combs and to squeeze Doug’s fingernail and thumb. She finally got in the tub and HIGHLY recommends using water during natural labor! 35:07 - Jamie shares that the midwife made her get out of the tub because it was too hot and that was so hard to do! Jamie gets really vulnerable and shares that she has never felt like she needed Doug more than during this labor - she shares just how much she feels like their relationship grew and they bonded as a couple! 37:38 - Jamie finally got back in the tub and it was go time! She felt like she needed to push and she could feel the bag bulging! 38:27 - Jamie shares that after a few pushes... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 20, 2020
Ep. 71 Married at First Sight S10 Bachelor Derek Sherman is BACK with a special Q&A Session; Things just got personal!
America’s most eligible and favorite bachelor is BACK! Derek Sherman is on again to answer ALL of your questions! A lot of you wanted to know if he is single and ready to mingle...listen to find out! :)   Before Derek comes on, Doug shares the *hopefully last* pregnancy update and raves about how absolutely incredible Jamie is as a mother, entrepreneur, wife, and so many things! He also shares how potty training Henley is going!     Show Notes:   00:36 - Doug shares they have 1 week (or less) left til baby Hayes will be here! 01:43 - Doug says that he doesn’t think anyone has a stronger work ethic than Jamie! 03:56 - Doug shares that he is extremely proud of his wife and her strength and positivity during this difficult time. 08:22 - Doug shares that everyone who reached out to them about their home and birthing center birth stories made a huge difference to them and helped them see the positive side! 09:36 - Henley has started potty-training! They’re trying the commando way - diaper on for naps and bedtime only! She’s doing so well! She loves doing her pee-pee dance! 11:49 - Doug and Jamie are going to be on Couple’s Cam and their homebirth will be videoed! 13:31 - Doug shares that the hardest part of this time is not being able to hug family!  21:41 - Welcome back, Derek! 22:46 - What did Derek learn about himself through MAFS? 24:09 - How was he so patient? 25:08 - Boxers or briefs?  25:37 - What is his ideal girl? 26:22 - Did you think that Katie was a B-I-T-C-H? 27:46 - What did Derek think of Katie getting jealous of his college date? 29:43 - Would Derek be interested in either Taylor or Mindy? 30:30 - What did Derek think about the cast of his season?  32:14 - How does it make him feel knowing that he has so many people’s support and love through this? 33:47 - Did Derek think he was ready for marriage? 34:18 - What are the top 5 things on Derek’s bucket list? 35:04 - Did Katie cheating on Derek affect his view of marriage? 36:00 - Would he do MAFS again? 37:03 - Doug gives props to Derek for how he has handled everything and for not letting his situation get him down. 40:06 - Next week on the podcast...there might just be a baby Hayes! :)    Stay clean, wash your hands, wash your face, wash your butt, and ya! Don’t get sick!  Talk to you next week!   Derek’s Instagram: @drockingsherm   And thank you to our sponsor: Skylight - Get $10 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go to and enter the code COOL!    See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 11, 2020
Ep. 70 Married at First Sight s10 STAR Derek Sherman Brings the Fire! Real Talk on Staying Married, Getting a Divorce & Everything in Between
We are so excited to welcome a GUY onto our podcast! It’s been a while! Welcome, Derek to Hot Marriage, Cool Parents! Derek was a cast member of Season 10 of MAFS. He’s a fan favorite, an avid dreamer, hopeless romantic, an all around awesome guy! He shares his experience on MAFS and what he is up to now!   Oh, and he’s America’s most ELIGIBLE bachelor!   Before Derek comes on, Doug tells everyone about their last minute plans for their home birth and his excitement! Doug shares their progress on finding a baby name and wait for it…..they are so excited for baby….HAYES!    Show Notes:   04:15 - Doug shares that this episode is a two-part episode with Derek - the second part will be all of our fran’s questions! 04:58 - Doug shares the baby name they have chosen - Hayes Douglas! 06:00 - Doug shares a special connection they learned between the name Hendrix (his top choice for baby boy names) and their angel baby’s name Johnathan.  06:42 - Doug shares the funny story behind naming Henley - Jamie had no idea what Doug’s last name was the morning after they got married!  09:00 - Doug shares that over the weekend they had another visit with the midwife and she brought the tub over - they got to hear Hayes’s heartbeat too! 17:36 - Jamie asks Derek what made him want to sign up for MAFS? 18:48 - Derek shares how he broke the news that he was going to marry a stranger to his family! 20:51 - Jamie asks Derek what his thoughts were when he saw Katie on their wedding day. 21:49 - Doug asks Derek if he felt like experts followed what he was wanting in a spouse? 23:05 - Jamie tells Derek that to viewers they seemed happy on the honeymoon - she asks Derek to walk listeners through what happened off camera? 26:26 - Derek talks about a time during the honeymoon when Katie asked him to join her in the shower. 26:50 - Doug asks if they consummated the marriage on the wedding night? 28:03 - Jamie asks Derek to share what he thinks went wrong after the honeymoon? 29:59 - Jamie asks Derek what it felt like to have Katie not appreciate his dreams. 34:54 - Doug asks Derek if he still has a relationship with Katie’s father? 36:23 - Jamie asks Derek if he ever felt like he could have fallen in love with Katie at some point? 37:43 - Derek shares what kept him holding on all the way to the end - that things would change. 40:00 - Derek shares what all happened during the reunion and previous conversations he had with Katie; especially one where they agreed he would not share about her affair.  42:52 - Derek shares that he finds out that she was having an affair not long after their honeymoon! 44:02 - Doug asks Derek why they stayed together on decision day? They wanted to try it without the cameras. 46:12 - Jamie asks Derek if Zach and Katie got drinks before or after he and Katie split up? 47:00 - Doug asks Derek what it was like being witness to some of Brandon’s lashouts? 48:30 - Derek shares what he is up to right now and he IS single, ladies! He also shares some of his bucketlist with us! 52:50 - Doug gives props to Derek for giving their relationship every possible chance that he could! 54:05 - Next week tune in for Derek’s Q&A Session!   Stay safe, wash your hands, don’t cough, all that! :) Talk to you next week!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 04, 2020
Ep. 69 Married At First Sights Fan Favorite Mindy Shiben Tells All! The Good, Bad, & Ugly of Getting Married At First Sight!
Put your hands up in the air and welcome MAFS Alum from Season 10, Mindy Shiben! She is here to chat ALL things MAFS and tell us what’s new!   Mindy Shiben aka America’s Sweetheart joins us today. She is hands down one of the most caring, genuine, and mature cast members from MAFS. She’s a super talented figure skating coach and honestly an all around catch.    Before Mindy comes on, we share pregnancy updates (including getting tested for COVID-19!) and Jamie gets real about some struggles she is dealing with during this difficult time. Doug and Jamie also give a MAFS reunion recap.      DISCLAIMER....This interview was recorded in advance. Information on Covid-19 is changing by the day. That being said, if you have any questions or concerns please do your own research or consult   Show Notes:   03:25 - Jamie is officially 37 weeks pregnant! YAY! Full term!  03:42 - Jamie shares about how she had to get tested for COVID-19. 04:10 - Jamie shares that she had to consult doctors due to taking Prozac during pregnancy as the midwife was concerned that it could affect baby boy Hehner during labor. 12:13 - Jamie shares that she is very overwhelmed with this pregnancy. 12:48 - Doug shares that there are going to be some things during this pregnancy that are out of their control due to COVID-19.  14:07 - Doug shares that Jamie is superwoman to him :) Jamie feels bad that she is unable to currently help in the hospital. 15:25 - Jamie asked her sister to make 50 masks - let us know if you are in need of one -! We want to give them all away! 16:20 - Doug shares that they have gotten all of the supplies they need for the homebirth! 17:28 - Doug shares that he feels like at home there is going to be a large amount of relief doing the homebirth instead of the hospital birth. 18:32 - Bombshell! Katie and Zach went out for drinks!  19:45 - Doug shares that he thinks Derek gave his all week after week, and its sad that he has a broken heart! 20:31 - Doug shares that he believes that everyone who goes on MAFS will benefit in ways they didn’t know they would! It brings a brighter future! 26:08 - Welcome, Mindy, to Hot Marriage Cool Parents!!! 26:23 - What made Mindy want to be married at first sight? 27:17 - How did Mindy break it to her parents that she was going to marry a stranger? And how have her parents handled it since then? 29:28 - Doug asks Mindy what her thoughts were on her wedding day? 31:39 - Mindy talks about when things changed with Zach. 34:31 - Doug asks Mindy if she saw things in Zach that did line up with what she was wanting. 35:15 - Did they have sex during the experiment? 36:22 - What happened with Mindy’s previous best friend who then started talking to Zach in private? 39:23 - Doug and Jamie commend Mindy for the way she handled herself maturely with everything that happened with Zach. 40:00 - Jamie praises Mindy for being so strong during the reunion! 41:25 - What were Mindy’s thoughts going into the reunion? Would she be willing to give Zach another chance? 45:00 - What’s going on with Mindy now? 46:38 - Mindy shares that she has been getting into virtual dating - kind of the opposite of MAFS! :) 48:35 - Mindy shares that she had a phone call with Zach during recording that made her have some hope. 49:21 - Mindy shares that she feels like she has gotten stronger from the experience and would do it again! 54:26 - Derek is on the podcast next week!   Mindy’s Instagram: @mindyshiben And thank you to our sponsor: Skylight - Get $10 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go to and enter the code COOL! Talkspace - Get $100 off your first month on Talkspace. To match with your perfect therapist, go to or download the app! Make sure to use the code JAMIE.       See Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 26, 2020
Ep. 68 Bachelor's Bekah Martinez Choosing Unmedicated Birth and Chatting with Our Midwife
Today we are super excited to welcome to our show the beautiful SUPER-Mom and Boss Babe, Bekah Martinez!    Bekah Martinez was on the Bachelor and after she was on the Bachelor, she started dating Gray and got pregnant within a couple months (their first couple dates!).  We are excited to talk to her about her birthing center birth story as well as her future plans for a home-birth with her current pregnancy!   Before Bekah comes on, we share with you guys the initial phone call Doug and Jamie had with a home-birth midwife - who they have since hired!      DISCLAIMER....This interview was recorded in advance. Information on Covid-19 is changing by the day. That being said, if you have any questions or concerns please do your own research or consult   Show Notes:   0:27 - Jamie shares that she was having contractions! Thankfully they stopped! 1:15 - Doug shares that their midwife will not deliver before 37 weeks. Jamie thinks baby boy will be early. 7:45 - Doug and Jamie have a big announcement! They are going to star on Couple’s Cam! This is a new show on Lifetime catching up with all the couples who are still together from Married at First Sight! They also share that they are going to be filming the birth of their baby boy! 8:10 - Doug and Jamie share that Jessica from this season’s MAFS is a nurse and has been moved to the COVID Unit! She’s working quite a bit and Jamie and Doug give another shoutout to all the amazing frontline workers! 8:25 - Doug and Jamie give a recap on the MAFS finale! 2 couples stayed together - Derek and Katie and Austin and Jessica. 11:23 - 32:48 - Phone Call With Midwife (she gave us permission to share the call ;)) 34:44 - Jamie wants to know if listeners think that taking placenta capsules helps with the baby blues? 37:11 - Welcome to the show, Bekah! 38:24 - Jamie asks Bekah if she feels like she fell in love with Arie on the Bachelor. 42:39 - Bekah shares how she met Gray while the Bachelor was airing, and 3 months into their relationship she got pregnant. 45:15 - Doug commends Bekah and Gray for doing couple’s counseling. 46:35 - Bekah shares that she had a gut instinct that Gray would be a great father even though they hardly knew each other - and her gut was right! 49:35 - Doug shares that he and Jamie were at a rough point in their relationship while pregnant with Henley, but that having Henley brought them closer together. 51:00 - Jamie asks Bekah what made her want to have a birthing center birth and how the experience was for her. Bekah shares that she had been interested in pregnancy and birth before getting pregnant and had already sought out more natural options and wanted to be in an environment where her knowledge about her own body was trusted. 54:30 - Bekah shares how Gray reacted when she told him that she was pregnant. His first reaction was that he had a really big smile on his face! But then wanted to have a conversation about how it would all work out.  55:14 - Bekah shares that she felt like a birth center would be a good middle ground option between a home-birth and a hospital birth. She found her birth center by looking on Yelp! 59:22 - Bekah shares her plans for a home birth this time around. 61:18 - Doug asks Bekah if she did an unmedicated birth at the birth center. She didn’t have any options for traditional pain management. She shares that the #1 reason for transfer to a hospital during birth center births tends to be maternal exhaustion.  62:40 - Bekah recommends the book Ina May’s Guide to Natural Childbirth.   63:26 - Bekah shares that she looked at birth with the idea of the pain of childbirth being the pain of progress. It’s your body doing what it is supposed to be doing. She talks about how she would call the contractions moments, since things go back to normal in between contractions. 66:24 - Bekah shares that it is important to know what you want and how you want things to go, but le... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 18, 2020
Ep. 67 Jamie and Doug's Birth Plan for Baby #2!
It’s the Doug and Jamie show today! We are super excited to share with listeners our decision on having a HOME BIRTH! We have done tons of research and are ready to share the facts with you!    No matter what decision our awesome listeners make in their birth plans, we want you to know that we support you ALL! We just wanted to share the facts we’ve learned in case anyone else is weighing the options during this crazy time! As always, make sure you are talking with your doctors and with other professionals when weighing all of the options :)   DISCLAIMER....This interview was recorded in advance. Information on Covid-19 is changing by the day. That being said, if you have any questions or concerns please do your own research or consult   Show Notes:   2:40 - We have exciting news! We are going for it …. we’re gonna have a homebirth! 4:15 - Jamie shares that as a nurse she has never had a home birth transferred to her where the mother or baby was doing poorly. 4:50 - Hospitals don’t have enough PPE (personal protective equipment) and they don’t have enough staff - they are being overworked!  5:22 - Jamie shares that she wants to be selfless and have the birth at home to help out the difficulty in the hospitals right now with the coronavirus. 5:40 - Doug wants listeners to know - he is 100% on board with the homebirth! 6:09 - Jamie wants listeners to understand that the point of the podcast is just to share research and share her experience as a labor and delivery nurse - this isn’t intended to sway anyone. 8:15 - Jamie explains the details of a homebirth. 9:25 - Jamie shares that when doctors augment labor (do something to expedite labor) such as pitocin or breaking a woman’s water - you can come into contact with a “risk” in the hospital and that can eventually cause a C-Section to have to happen. 10:20 - Jamie shares what a birthing center is in comparison to a home birth or hospital birth. 11:14 - Midwives from birthing centers will be with you during your birth, even if you have to be transferred to the hospital. The majority of them have privileges and rights to practice at hospitals. 11:33 - Birthing centers and midwives with home births take an all natural approach. Home Births are the MOST natural.  12:14 - The biggest pro right now of a homebirth is that right now you are going to avoid catching germs that are lingering around at the hospital. 12:55 - Home births have very intermittent monitoring so you can get up and move around during labor! Big pro! 13:40 - A midwife who does home births comes with medications to stop hemorrhaging, she comes with medications for your baby, she comes with oxygen - she means business! These midwives are trained medical professionals! 15:00 - A big pro about home birth is that your partner is able to be with you! 16:15 - Being able to deliver in water with a home birth is a huge pro!  16:30 - No one is telling you you need to speed up your labor in a home birth or at a birthing center! It’s not a rush - you are the only person that the midwife is taking care of!  17:55 - All of the follow-up visits from homebirth happen in your own home! 19:08 - Jamie shares that she definitely wants to try to have either her or Doug catch the baby! 20:20 - With a home birth or birthing center birth, you are guaranteed to have your midwife during the birth. 20:57 - You get as many coaches as you want during labor and can even have your children be a part of your labor experience! Jamie shares that she is worried about the pain part of it scaring Henley. 21:44 - Jamie shares cons of a homebirth: -if an emergency happens, they are 20 minutes away from the hospital -there is no medicinal pain relief -a lot of insurances do not cover a home birth or a birthing center (sad!) -you have to submit your own social security and birth certificate info -you don’t have help with your newborn 22:58 - Jamie shares that she is excited about her upcoming home bir... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 11, 2020
Ep. 66 NYC Nurse & What its like on the Front Lines of Covid-19
We are living in such strange times right now and there is a lot of uncertainty with having a baby during this time! We are excited to welcome on to today’s episode an amazing nurse friend of Jamie’s who is here to share the good, the bad, and the ugly of what is happening in the labor and delivery unit because of the corona-virus!   Before their guest comes on, Jamie and Doug chat about her pregnancy symptoms, how baby boy is growing so much,    Later in the episode, they speak with Sara Maher, RN at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in NY - the epicenter of the corona-virus! Sara shares her heart about why it is important that everyone stays home. She emphasizes that to have a support person with you during labor and delivery is currently putting many many people at risk. Jamie urges listeners to consider signing a petition giving the hospitals back the right to deny support persons based on the spread of COVID-19.    DISCLAIMER....This interview was recorded in advance. Information on Covid-19 is changing by the day. That being said, if you have any questions or concerns please do your own research or consult   Bio on our guest:   We are so excited to welcome Sara Maher to the podcast! Not only is Sara an accomplished nurse, but she also is a close friend to Jamie and mentored her when Jamie worked at New York Presbyterian Columbia Hospital in Washington Heights - the #5 hospital in the entire nation! It’s ranked #1 in NYC and not only does it offer excellent care that’s been nationally recognized for years, but it also trains amazing, excellent nurses, doctors, and healthcare staff. Sara has worked there since 2011 and she has been an RN since 2005. She sure has a lot of credentials after her name, too! We wanted to invite her on as a friend, but also as an expert behind the scenes since she has directly treated patients with the Coronavirus! She’s literally in the labor rooms working side by side with patients who either have the virus or have been exposed to it, or who are just laboring and delivering a child during this really scary time!   Show Notes:   3:38 - Doug shares how excited he was to feel the baby moving all over! He loves it when baby kicks, because it’s like the baby is saying hello! :) 5:19 - Jamie and Doug share that they still have much to do for baby’s room before he arrives! Doug shares about anxiety surrounding how they will sleep since Gracie is currently dealing with sleep regression. 9:25 - Jamie talks about how they had to cancel her Baby Sprinkle because of uncertainty with the virus. 9:46 - Jamie takes a moment to thank all of the amazing frans for getting so many nice things for when Henley Grace was born! 10:40 - Jamie shares that they are trying to be careful on how much diapers and wipes that they buy for baby boy, because she wants listeners to understand that others really need the supplies and we should utilize delivery services if we are able. 11:21 - Jamie talks about her awful time with hemorrhoids during both pregnancies and how the doctor said not to do anything about them until she is finished having babies! 12:46 - Doug and Jamie talk about how Big Doug had a hemorrhoid burst at Walt Disney World!!! 14:48 - Jamie and Doug really recommend listeners to try one episode of Netflix’s new Tiger King! It’s a show that you will be laughing - but for all the wrong reasons! They also recommend Love is Blind on Netflix. 16:47 - Doug shares that though Tiger King is a funny show, he does not endorse animals in captivity. 18:04 - Doug and Jamie have the idea that listeners send in their favorite binge-worthy TV shows! 22:23 - Welcome to the podcast, Sara Maher! 23:38 - Sara shares that they have been testing all of their patients for the corona-virus. 24:24 - Jamie shares that she saw on the news that there might be a test that’s available that the results would come back much sooner! Sara shares that at first the tests would take 12 hours,... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 05, 2020
Ep 65. Covid-19 Facts vs Fiction with Infectious Disease Scientist Alex Willis
There is so much information out there re: the corona virus so Jamie and Doug went straight to the source and brought a guest on who is working behind the scenes with other scientists to help fight infectious diseases. Before their guest comes on, Jamie and Doug chat about being back in NJ a week early because of Covid-19 and how Jamie feels more pregnant than ever. They talk about the measures they took to sanitize and hopefully avoid getting or spreading the virus while flying home from FL. Later in the episode, they speak with an infectious disease scientist, Alex Willis, who is on the front line working with other scientists trying to find a vaccine/cure to Covid-19. Alex gives gives us the simple facts on the virus and debunks some myths that are floating around on the internet. This is an extremely informative interview, and offers some valuable advice for all of us to follow, in order to help stop the spread. DISCLAIMER....This interview was recorded in advance. Information on Covid-19 is changing by the day. That being said, if you have any questions or concerns please do your own research and/or email Alex directly at Bio on our guest: This week we have Alex Willis, a young female scientist and infection researcher from the UK, on the podcast. She went to Imperial College in London, and studied new ways to treat bacterial infections (including other ‘good' bacteria!). She’s now in Canada and looking at some mysterious parasites under the microscope! She is passionate about making science available for everyone, so she is here today to answer all our questions about this new virus! Show Notes: 1:37 - This epidemic is really serious - it could become the most lifechanging event since WW2 according to some scientists 2:00 - This is the worst pandemic since the Spanish Flu about 100 years ago which killed 50 million people 4:00 - What really is self-isolating? What is social-distancing? 6:08 - Jamie shares why she is terrified to take the flight home to NJ 6:40 - What are symptoms people should be looking for who think they might have COVID-19? 8:10 - How does COVID-19 affect a pregnant woman? 9:08 - We all need a careful balance between self-isolating and self-isolating calmly. 9:25 - Jamie challenges listeners to avoid WIC-approved items at stores, because those are what people who are less fortunate are able to get for free and need to support and take care of their families; especially with school being out and their children not getting their lunches at school 10:38 - Be self-LESS! 11:02 - COVID-19 lasts different amounts of time on all surfaces. Plastic - 3 days; Cardboard - 1 day; Steel - 2 days 11:27 - Avoid using public playgrounds 12:39 - Wash your hands with soap and water for 20 seconds! This is the most important way to prevent the spread of the illness! 13:05 - Experts say that soap and water is MUCH better than hand sanitizer - hand sanitizer should be used for last resort situations. Anything that will clean your dishes will clean your hands. 14:50 - Alex shares her thoughts on why kids are not as affected by COVID-19. 15:27 - As an RN, Jamie HIGHLY suggests taking vitamins! 15:47 - Should people fly or drive to another state? 18:13 - Know what number to call BEFORE you get sick! 19:19 - Scientists are suggesting people to use TYLENOL and not Advil if you get a fever. (Check with your Healthcare Provider) 21:50 - Scientists have been working hard to get a vaccine out - first human patient has been given a vaccination! But it will be another 14 months until they know if it was successful. 22:35 - Nanny tested positive for the coronavirus! Oh no! She's barely symptomic... 24:12 - It can take 14 days for your symptoms to come on and you can be sick for up to 8 weeks! 24:52 - There is a hopeful long-term immunity for COVID-19 through vaccinations, just like the seasonal flu. 25:46 - What kills this virus?! SOAP AND WATER (pay attention to your fingern... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 30, 2020
Ep 64 Christina Cimorelli Music, Family, Rainbow Baby
Jamie and Doug speak with Christina Cimorelli, who started a singing group with her sisters, and quickly rose to fame through YouTube, and now with over 5 Million subscribers. Jamie and Doug ask what it is like starting a group with family, and the ups and downs of the music industry. Christina has been open about suffering a miscarriage, and offers a new perspective on dealing with a loss. Christina shares some extremely powerful coping techniques that she learned in therapy, and announces that she is pregnant again with her Rainbow Baby!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 22, 2020
Ep 63 Married At First Sight star Danielle Dodd & her Near-Death Delivery
Doug catches up with Married At First Sight Season 7's Danielle Dodd, who had a "Near-Death" experience while giving birth to their daughter Olivia. Danielle was diagnosed with HELLP Syndrome, something that occurs in less than 1% of births in the USA! Hear how Danielle and her husband Bobby Dodd managed everything, and the aftermath of having their beautiful daughter Olivia. Danielle also gives her take on the current season of Married At First Sight, and her predictions on which couples she thinks will be staying together at the end of the experiment. Danielle and Doug do not hold back!!!! Doug also discusses what he and Jamie have planned for their last couple weeks in Florida, and how they have narrowed their House Hunting down to 2 homes. He also talks about the impact the coronavirus is having on travel, and whether they should head back to New Jersey early, just in case more travel restrictions are put in place within the USA. Doug also suggests an alternative to the handshake, and what should be used instead for greeting each other from now on....  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 16, 2020
Ep 62 Mindfulness and Postpartum Depression with Terra Larock
Jamie and Doug (Mostly Jamie) brings awareness to HPV, what it is, how to check for it, how to treat it, and the consequences if you do nothing. After that, Doug speaks with Terra Larock, and her Mindful Mamas App launching soon, to help mamas of all ages deal with Postpartum Depression. Terra is a mom of 2, and went through severe postpartum depression with her first child. Hear all about her story, the inspiration behind her Mindful Mamas App, and some extremely powerful techniques and practices to deal with stress, anxiety, and PPD!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 08, 2020
Ep 61 Super Bowl Complaints PLUS Beth & Jamie from Married at First Sight S09
Doug and Jamie cover traveling with the Coronavirus, and discuss who are the people that complain to the FCC about the Superbowl Half Time show this year. After that, Elisabeth & Jamie, stars of Season 9 Married at First Sight tells us all about life after MAFS. Here about their newlywed struggles, what compelled them to move across country to the West Coast. More importantly, they given us a lesson on what "BCS (Basic Caucasian Sex)" is, and whether they have babies in their near future....  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 29, 2020
Ep 60 Baby Names and Meanings with SJ Strum
Jamie and Doug catch up on the latest Married at First Sight drama, and share their feeling on a few of the husbands from this season. After that they speak with world renowned "Baby Naming Expert - SJ Strum," to get some help naming their baby boy due in May. SJ gave Jamie & Doug some knowledge behind their names, and suggests 5 Boy Names beginning with "H." After their conversation, with SJ Strum, they may have finally found a name for baby number 2!!!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 23, 2020
Ep 59 Jamie's 2nd Trimester Pregnancy Update
Jamie shares a quick update on what is happening now that she is in the Third Trimester, and how this pregnancy differs from the fist with Henley Grace. Also, curious what Doug got Jamie for Valentines Day....? Hear all about what Jamie got for Valentines Day, and how Doug gave it to her. Jamie, Doug, and Henley are heading back to Los Angeles to film a Married at First Sight Special, so this episode is a quick update episode from Jamie!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 17, 2020
Ep 58. Toxic Shock Syndrome & Married at First Sight
Do you know anyone that had Toxic Shock Syndrome (TSS)? Do you know what TSS is? Jamie and Doug speak with Dawn Massabni, whose daughter Maddy passed away from using a tampon, and developing Toxic Shock Syndrome. Dawn and her family are now on a mission to warn families and girls about tampon use, and educate everyone on the signs and symptoms of this deadly infection. Jamie and Doug also provide their opinions on the latest episode of Married at First Sight, and predictions on who will stay together.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 10, 2020
Ep 57 Moving to Florida, Pregnancy Update, and Playing 2 Truths & 1 Lie
If you thought you knew Jamie and Doug....THINK AGAIN!! Jamie proposed a game between the two, "2 TRUTHS AND A LIE," and the couple reveals a few secrets that even Jamie and Doug did not know about one another. Doug and Jamie also begin their 2 month trip to Florida, looking for a place to invest in, and turn into a rental home and/or place to live for the winter. Jamie is battling a cold/fever/6 month pregnancy, and has been out of commission for the last couple days, so Doug discusses their first impressions of the Air BnB that they are staying in for the next 2 months, and his feelings on Jamie wanting to move to Florida for 6 Months and 1 day out of the year. Hear his thoughts about the impact it will have on their family, Henley, their relationship. Doug also shares a "Magical" moment he experienced holding Jamies Belly as they spooned, and why he was crying in bed all by himself..(Happy Tears).  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 03, 2020
Ep 56- Married At First Sight Recap with Dougs Parents & Heading to FL for 2 Months
Jamie and Doug are now 6 Months Pregnant and Jamie gives an update on her most recent visits to the OBGYN. Meanwhile, they are preparing to head to FL for 2 whole months, and talk about what the purpose of the long trip is.... (Possibly Moving Away from NJ??) Later in the episode, they check in with Doug's parents to get their take on the new season of Married at First Sight, recap the latest episode, and give their predictions on who will stay together. Doug asks his parents what it was like hearing that their son would be getting married to a stranger on a TV show, how they felt before, during, and after the "Love Experiment, and share some unsolicited advice / wisdom for future Married at First Sight parents  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 27, 2020
Ep. 55 Our Babymoon Mishaps and The Royal Family 101
Jamie and Doug took some time away to reconnect in Curacao on their babymoon!! Things went as planned... for the most part.... but they spill all about their little mishaps! Also, they have expert Caryn Blood on to chat all about the royal family and what you may not have known!! Also, here are a few amazing offers from this week's episode :) Want to take your personal trainer everywhere? You can sign up and get 50% at Also, right now, Perfect Bar is offering you 15% off your online order. Just go to PERFECTBAR.COM/HMCP15  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 18, 2020
Ep 54 - Self Love and Conquering Goals with Life Coach Kelsey Murphy
Jamie and Doug get some much needed advice on Self-Love, channeling your best you, and how to conquer 2020 goals with World Renown Life Coach Kelsey Murphy, who is also expecting her second child within the next week. Also Season 10 Married At First Sight just premiered on January 1st, and Jamie and Doug share their thoughts and predictions on the 5 new couples, reflect on their own journey and how so much has changed since the show first began.... and SO MUCH MORE!!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 12, 2020
Ep 53.Holiday Recap, New Years Party, Restraining Order, and Goals for 2020!
Jamie and Doug discuss the Christmas gifts that they exchanged, and the gift that Jamie gave to Doug, which REALLY shows how much she has his "back-side!" Get a behind the scenes recap of the Hehner Family Christmas, and how Henley reacted to all of the presents this year. A HUGE thank you to all their Frans for the support through Year 1 of Hot Marriage Cool Parents, and what their 2020 Goals are for the year ahead. Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. has reached over 1 MILLION downloads! THANK YOU!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 04, 2020
Top 3 Baby Names , Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays to our Frans!
Christmas Episode! Jamie and Doug reveal each of their Top Baby Name Choices for their baby boy due in May. They also share a recap of the private reading they received from Monica the Medium, after she channeled Jamie's father, their late son Johnathan, and a few surprise relatives on Doug's side of the family. Hear more about the Hehner Holiday Tradition, Proper Gift Etiquette, and send a HUGE THANK YOU to all their Frans Around the World!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 25, 2019
Ep. 51 Talking to the Dead with Monica the Medium
Doug and Jamie bring Monica the Medium on Hot Marriage Cool Parents. She does not make promises that shirts will come through, but...SPOILER ALERT.... Monica speaks with Jamie's dad, and they get a chance to hear from their Angel Baby Johnathan, and a few more surprise visitors. Sponsors for this episode: Perfect Bar, The Original Refrigerated Protein Bar: Offering 15% OFF your online order, go to FEALS, Premium CBD Delivered Directly to your Door: go to to become a member and get 50% Off your first order with free shipping  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 21, 2019
Ep 50. Is Jamie A "Rape Baby" And What Does That Mean? | The Bird's Papaya Is Back To Finish Her Body Positive Chat
Doug and Jamie fully discuss the conversation they had with Jamie's mom about the night Jamie was conceived. Jamie doesn't want to believe she is a "rape baby" but Doug reminds her that even if she is - it isn't her fault. It doesn't change the person she's become. Sarah Landry of The Bird's Papaya is back to finish her chat about loving every stretch mark, curve, lump and bump on your body. And she is on FIRE. Everyone should hear the message she has to say!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 13, 2019
Ep 49: Self-Love & Body Positivity With Guest The Bird's Papaya | A Tough Talk With Jamie's Mom After Seeing Her For The First Time Since Finding Jamie's Father
Today we have self-love coach and body positivity pioneer, Sarah Landry of The Bird's Papaya. We also talk about seeing Jamie's mom for the first time since finding out who her father is. The conversation didn't go as planned.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 08, 2019
We are so happy to FINALLY share our gender reveal with YOU!💗☺️.... drumroll pleaseeeeee....IT’S A BOY!!!!💙 We are over the moon excited for our newest little edition and we are so happy to have you all along on our journey with us!! Ps this is the last chance to leave a review to be entered for our giveaway!!! Also, a special thank you to this week's sponsor Perfect Snacks! We all know the holidays can be a lot for families and that nothing saves the car ride to grandma’s house better than delicious snacks! That’s where Perfect Kids snack bars, from the makers of Perfect Bar, The Original Refrigerated Protein Bar, come in. Right now, Perfect Bar is offering you 15% off your online order. Just go to PERFECT BAR.COM/HMCP  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 30, 2019
Ep. 47 Wacky Gender Prediction Test Results & Helping a Fran Through a Difficult Time
Jamie and Doug did a bunch of WACKY gender prediction tests and shared all their results! Andddd next week we get to share the gender💗 is baby Hehner number 2 a sweet little cupcake or a handsome stud muffin?! But first we have a very touching podcast with a Fran who reached out to Jamie who was inspired by her story. Jamie and Doug help her through a difficult time and share her story in hopes of inspiring one of YOU! With the holidays right around the corner we have some special deals just for our listeners! First, we have an amazing giveaway going on! Just a little thank you for 50 of our awesome listeners, details in the podcast in how to enter! Also if you can get your L. Organic tampons, pads, and liners right now by going to You can also head to and enter code COOLPARENTS12 for 12% off your entire order!   See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 23, 2019
Ep. 46 The Bachelor's Carly Waddell SHOCKS us with this personal information she shares...Evan isn't a penis doctor?!
This week, The Bachelor’s Carly Wadell and her hubby Evan Bass are on this week’s episode. Jamie and Doug have the last Interview Carly did before she gave birth. They talked about why both her babies were pleasant surprises, how Evan isn’t really a penis doctor like The Bachelor said and how he has since turned farmer - shocking! Lol. Jamie and Doug talk about how they found out, touched on what her delivery plan looked like! All this and more on this week’s episode!!! I don’t know about you, but I like all my products to be as natural as possible!! Those all-purpose cleaners your mom used to use can be full of chemicals that have been linked to all sorts of problems. You don’t need toxins to have a clean home thanks to Grove Collaborative. And for a limited time, when listeners go to you will get a FREE FIVE PIECE gift set from Mrs. Meyer’s in festive holiday scents like Peppermint or Iowa Pine! Care/of makes it super easy to keep taking your vitamins and maintaining healthy! Especially being pregnant, I never know what prenatal to take, so I love that you can take their personalized quiz to determine which vitamins are best for you!! For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to and enter JAMIEO50.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 15, 2019
Ep. 45 Sex, Cheating, and Married At First Sight?! We talk about it all - and get advice for keeping the romance alive - with relationship expert, Pastor Cal!
This week we have Married At First Sight's Pastor Cal on to give all the best tips and tricks on keeping the spark alive in your marriage ;) We chat about sex, cheating and the seasons of Married At First Sight! Ya won't wanna miss it!! Special offers from this week's episode! •For 20% off your first purchase, visit and use promo code HMCP during checkout! •Get your L. organic tampons, pads, and liners RIGHT NOW by going to THIS IS L DOT COM slash (HMCP). That’s THISISL.COM/HMCP •Sign up for Zebit TODAY at and get up to $2500 credit to shop the Zebit marketplace at ZERO interest and ZERO cost to join.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 09, 2019
Ep 44. Expecting Mom Shawn Johnson & Andrew East talk miscarriage, fears of labor & joys of becoming parents
Andrew East, a college athlete, turned NFL player turned successful entrepreneur and his wife, Shawn Johnson East an Olympic Gold medal gymnast and DWTS champ are our amazing guests on this week’s podcast! They got engaged on July 24, 2015 and were married a year later. In April 2019, they announced their pregnancy after suffering a miscarriage in 2017. Shawn is due any day now with their rainbow baby and we can’t wait! They talk miscarriage, fears of labor and their joys of becoming parents on this week’s episode. Also we have a special deal for you from this week’s episode :) If you’re looking for a healthy snack option that your kids will actually *want* to eat, definitely check out Perfect Bar :) They’re offering our listeners 15% off just head to  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Nov 01, 2019
Ep. 43: 15 Whacky Gender Reveal Predictions and Married At First Sight’s Sonia Granados Opens Up About her life after the show.
On this week’s episode, we have one of the most requested MAFS guest on! Sonia shares about her break up with Nick and how months after their divorce, she found out that he was having twins! Sonia also shares about Nick’s near death experience, her work with the homeless and her current MAFS crush! If you’d like to be a part of her work with the homeless, I’ll put her wishlist here  Sonia’s Wishlist Also we have some great deals from this week’s episode: •If you head to you will get a FREE FIVE PIECE Fall Gift Set from Mrs. Meyer’s and Grove, free shipping AND a free 60-day VIP trial! •Also, right now through the end of the month, try Zapier free by going to slash/HMCP •For a limited time, go to LITERATI BOOKS.COM and use promo code COOLPARENTS for TWENTY DOLLARS OFF your FIRST BOX. Plus, kids THREE and up get a special blacklight pen. •One more great offer! For limited time, you can get TEN PERCENT OFF your purchase at BEAUTYCOUNTER.COM with promo code HMCP.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Oct 26, 2019
42:We got a *FUN* little surprise at our doctors visit and Doug has one BIG surprise he wants to reveal
This week, Jamie and Doug are keeping it short and sweet! They were scheduled to take this week off the podcast, but since they got unexpected news from their doctor they wanted to hop on the podcast real fast because they just *had* to share it with you! In this episode, Jamie and Doug announce a SURPRISE about their pregnancy and things get *pretty* intimate when Doug shares his BIG surprise! I promise this week’s episode will have you chuckling and smiling from ear to ear!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Oct 19, 2019
Ep 41. Sex While Pregnant? Why we haven't had sex in TWO MONTHS... and a fun game of "who knows who better"!
Sex while pregnant isn't all it's cracked up to be! Jamie and Doug spill all about why they haven't had sex in TWO months, I know it's crazy right?! Anyways, Jamie and Doug also play a little game of who knows who better and you'll never guess who won ;) Jamie and Doug also have some special offers for YOU!! - If you've been on the hunt for a new deodorant that's all natural and actually works, definitely check out and use code HMCP for 20% off your first purchase! - We've all felt the struggle of really needing something and not having the money to cover it. Well with Zebit you can shop millions of products and pay over-time! Plus if you sign up today at you can get up to a $2500 interest free credit.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Oct 11, 2019
Ep 40. Plans for Baby #2 *on Earth*| Everything you've been asking! Names? Boy or girl? Due date? We answer it all!
Everything you’ve been asking about baby number two is right here! Jamie and Doug chat about gender predictions, names they picked out, why they chose to announce early, how they think Henley will react and much more! Offers for you from this episode: - You can get yummy, healthy snack bars that taste like a treat for both mamas, dadas and kiddos! Just head to to get 15% off! - If you’re looking for scrubs that are stylish and comfortable, FIGS has you covered! They’re offering our listeners 15% off with the code HMCP, just head to for the offer!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Oct 04, 2019
Ep 39: Back by popular demand! Answering *your* questions. | Brendan Synnott joins us to chat about the adoption process and growing multi-million dollar businesses while being a father
Jamie calls Doug out on pooping the bed and then Doug and Jamie answer your most common questions. Their guest this week is Brendan Synnott. He shares about how he turned a $3500.00 investment into a $80 million dollar brand and how he is a dad of 4 - 2 adopted. Doug shares his fears on adoption and Brendan de-mystifies the adoption process. Offers for you from this episode: - 25% off your first order of personalized care/of vitamins. Just go to and use promo code JAMIEFreeO - Free 7 day trial of relationship therapy app, Relish. - 20% off your first purchase of Bombas socks.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 27, 2019
Ep 38: Seeing Jamie's father's side of the family for the second time to spread her Dad's ashes | Julie Solomon from the Influencer podcast stops by to share how she turned her side hustle into a full fledged career
Jamie and Doug went to Ithaca, New York to meet with her dad's side of the family for the second time. She was suppose to join them in spreading her dad's ashes at all his favorite places along cayuga lake, but she wasn't able to. Guest Julie Solomon - host of The Influencer Podcast - joins Jamie to share how to turn your passion into a business. She shares her story and advice on how to turn your side hustle into a successful career.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 20, 2019
Ep 37: 5 Tips For Trying To Conceive & EVERYTHING I Did Differently To Get Pregnant | Special Guest Anna Lozano & Lindy Sood Chat About Positive Affirmations: How To Speak Them and Why They're So Important
WE *FINALLY* HAVE A VIABLE PREGNANCY! I’ve gotten so many questions about what we did differently after 18 months of trying & I want to be able help others trying to conceive if we can...We are sharing about *all* the things I did differently to get to this positive pregnancy test.🤰🏼🙏🏻 The last 2 months I’ve drastically changed my lifestyle and it seems to be working!🤞🏼 And hey, if you’re #ttc and nothing else has worked for ya - it doesn’t hurt to try these!🤷🏼‍♀️ I am currently writing a blog with all of the links and info and I'll put that here when I finish it for ya! :-) September 13th is the anniversary of my dad's death. I never got to know him on earth, but I believe I will meet him one day in Heaven. Until then, I will spend my life trying to make him proud. Doug and I chat about how we plan on spending his first year anniversary. Lastly, we have special guests Anna Lozano and Lindy Sood on to chat about their affirmation cards and Love Powered Co. If you're new to speaking positive affirmations- or if you've been into it for years - you will love this interview!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 13, 2019
After 18 months of trying - with two losses - we are *finally* pregnant and my hormone levels come back shockingly elevated. Doug and I share how we found out we are pregnant, how we confirmed it, and the surprising news the nurse told me about my blood work. We just couldn't wait a whole week to share this info and it is way too much information for a caption on instagram, so we recorded this bonus episode for you! We hope you enjoy listening! THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS FOR ALL OF YOUR LOVE, ENCOURAGEMENT, AND PRAYERS!!!!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 07, 2019
Ep 36: IVF, Adoption, and a Funny Game Of This or That - That Ends With Death. This One's All Over The Map!
Doug and I begin today's podcast episode updating you on what we discussed last week: progesterone levels. Then we begin chatting about IVF options, whether adoption is in our future and our excitement to see the fertility doctor tomorrow. We wanted to keep this podcast light so we had our assistant, Rachel, come up with a fun game to play. She made a list of This or That scenarios that we had to choose from - and let's just say Noah's arc, death, and beautiful beaches are all brought up. This podcast is a roller coaster of emotions and we're excited for you to go on the ride with us! :-)  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Sep 07, 2019
Ep: 35 Trying To Conceive? There Could Be An Easy Fix...No Joke! Our Guest Amy Beckley Shocked Me With This Information!
We have been trying to conceive for 18 months. We've suffered two losses during this time. So many are in this boat with us so when I heard about this information we're sharing today, I was SHOOK. Amy Beckley, our guest for today, has a PHD and suffered from 7 losses of her own. It was after this turmoil she experienced that she took her science background and created an at-home test where women can check their progesterone levels. No doctors order needed. No labs necessary. You simply pee in a cup and dip the stick. We have her on today to explain why checking your progesterone levels are *so* important while trying to conceive. She explains how easy it is to fix a low progesterone diagnosis and *finally* get pregnant and carry to term.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 30, 2019
Ep. 34 Married At First Sight's Kate Sisk is Back to Talk If She's Still Married, Dating, And How Recognize Signs of Emotional Abuse
This week’s episode we have a *very* special guest, Married At First Sight’s very own Kate Sisk. Andddd she’s ready to spill ALL her secrets!! Is she dating, is she divorced, what *really* went on behind the scenes of Married At First Sight?! Plus she dishes her feelings on this season’s couples and her ex-hubby is actually very similar to another hubby on this season…you’ll have to listen and see ;) Also a special thank you to this week’s sponsors! We all need someone to just talk to, someone who’s there to support us no matter what and that’s where Talkspace comes in! It’s an online therapy that makes taking care of your mental health more affordable and convenient! They’re offering my frans $65 off your first month with the code JAMIE. Are you on the hunt for vitamins that are personalized just for you?! Do you just never know what supplements you should be taking? Look no more, Care/Of has you covered! They’re offering my frans 25% off your first order with the code JAMIEO. Okay, one more thing before I go, I have to tell you about Postmates! Sushi at 9 am, a burrito at noon, wine at 3 (it’s 5 o’clock somewhere am I right?!), well whatever you’re looking for Postmates has you covered and it’s delivered right to you!! Plus they’re offering you $100 of free delivery for your first seven days, all ya have to do is use the code COOLPARENTS.  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 23, 2019
Ep. 33 Five Tips To Become A Better You (Especially If You're Trying to Conceive)
Doug surprised me with 5 unique questions that he's never asked me before (it was the sweetest surprise ever) and we close the podcast with 5 tips just for YOU...and they're not what you may expect! Also a special thank you to this week's sponsor, Modsy! If you're looking for an interior designer, but don't want to break the bank... look no more! Modsy is a revolutionary online home design service that helps ALL your room dreams come true! And this month only they're offering our listeners 20% off at with the code HMCP so head on over and start designing!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 16, 2019
Ep 32: Life is Short. Live. Laugh. Love. Dedicated to Erica Hoffman
At the time we recorded this episode Erica was in a lot of pain on hospice, but she still had a smile on her face and a legacy she wanted to leave. I’ve actually never met her in person, but her whole aura has always been gravitational! On episode 30, she offered to come back on HMCP to answer any questions our frans may have had. Meanwhile, Erica was fighting stage 4 colon cancer. This is a perfect example of her giving spirit. I am so sad to have to say that Erica didn’t survive to record another podcast. She has left to be with Jesus where she is no longer in pain. BUT, her spirit lives on. In this podcast episode Doug and I chat about how her positivity really impacted us. Her story hit close to home because she was my age and I couldn’t imagine leaving Doug or Gracie behind. Erica’s story has inspired me to trulybe thankful for every breath because you never know what life has in store. Step back, breathe and enjoy where you are in this VERY moment because you never know when it’s your last. I know Erica would never ask herself, but I put the link to her relief fund if you feel compelled to donate. I know the cost is extensive when it comes to treating cancer and it’s been quite a burden on the Hoffman’s. Erica Hoffman’s Fund I would also like to thank today’s amazing sponsors! If you’re looking for the perfect scrubs…look no more, FIGS is changing the scrub game and they have an amazing deal for our listeners. If ya head to and enter HMCP you’ll get 15% off your first purchase! For those of you who want to go full throttle without getting pregnant, definitely check out Simple Health because they make birth control simple and affordable. Plus you can try it out for FREE if you go to Also, I have found the PERFECT razor! Billie razors give ya the perfect shave EVERY.SINGLE.TIME without ANY irritation! If you wanna try them out head to for 10% off your first razor!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Aug 09, 2019
Ep 31: Jamie Finally Found Her Father & She Met His Side Of The Family For The Very First Time!
It's been a long time coming, but Jamie has finally located her father and his side of the family and they invited her to meet them! Jamie and Doug talk all about this exciting time in this podcast episode you do not want to miss! Postmates (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Go to the Postmates app to get $100 of free delivery credit for the first 7 days! Don't miss this limited time offer! Use the code COOLPARENTS when you download the Postmates app! Talkspace (this episode's amazing sponsor!) Go to and use the code JAMIE to get $65 off your first month! care/of (this episode's amazing sponsor!) For 25% off your first care/of order go to and enter the code JAMIEO. Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 30, 2019
Ep 30: Erica Hoffman - Fighting Stage 4 Cancer But Leaving A Bright And Shining Legacy For The World To See!
If you had the opportunity to leave a legacy, what would yours be? We have the most special guest on this week’s podcast episode. Erica Hoffman is a stage 4 colon cancer fighter who is one of the very most positive and joyful people I know - and I’ve actually never even met her in person!! She’s a friend of a fran (I share the story in the episode) and I know that you ALL will be so touched by her story. Even though Erica has very little energy, she wants to leave an amazing legacy and has offered to do a Q&A with you guys so send any question you have for her and we’ll do our best to get them answered! ❤️❤️ Modsy (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Go to and use the promo code HMCP during checkout to get 20% off (this month only!) Billie (this episode's amazing sponsor!) Go to to get 10% off your razor for a limited time! On This Earth by Erica Hoffman The Truth It Works blog by Erica Hoffman  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 21, 2019
Ep 29: Breaking the Cycle - Jamie's Sister Leah Tells Us What It Was Like Having Jamie As A Sister & Mom
On today's episode we are super excited to have Jamie's sister Leah chat about all things childhood life with Jamie! She shares about what it was like to have Jamie as a sister and a mother figure at the same time and how counseling helped them get through the most difficult time in life. Leah credits Jamie's perseverance in taking them to counseling as a large benefit to helping them to be able to break the cycle they knew from growing up. Scentbird (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For 50% off your first month ($7.50 for your first order!) go to and use the promo code JAMIE during checkout! Grove Collaborative (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For a FREE 5 piece spring cleaning set from Mrs. Meyer (a $30 value!!) go to to get this exclusive offer! Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 11, 2019
Ep 28: Holiday Special - HMCP Top Moments So Far!
Can you believe we are almost to 30 episodes now?!? Whoa! We have had so many great moments, sad and happy, and we are excited to share them with you in this special holiday episode. Wishing all of you a very happy 4th of July! Cove (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For a limited time, get your first month of medication FREE! Go to!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jul 04, 2019
Ep 27: Be Prepared! Crime Junkie Podcast's Ashley Flowers Chats With Us All About True Crime AND The Crazy Deaths Happening In The DR 😱
We are absolutely thrilled to be able to have Ashley Flowers from Crime Junkie Podcast chat with us! Doug and Jamie (especially Jamie!) are obsessed with true crime, and they had a great time chatting with Ashley about all things true crime, including all this craziness going on in the Dominican Republic! What's up with all these deaths?!? She also shares her tips on being prepared at all times! This is definitely an episode you don't want to miss! Talkspace (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) To get your first week FREE, go to and enter the code JAMIE. Cove (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) To get doctor consultation and your first month of treatment for $30 go to! Crime Junkie Podcast Crime Junkie Podcast Website Crime Junkie Fan Club Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 27, 2019
Ep 26: Take A Challenge With Us To Kick Anxiety & Depression To The CURB!
Jamie is back this week and is ready to challenge you to GET HEALTHY! We can definitely all benefit from some exercise and positivity and we are excited to talk with you about how to practically make this happen! Join us on Facebook for the challenge - Jamie will be popping in often! Grove Collaborative (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For a FREE 5 piece spring cleaning set from Mrs. Meyer (a $30 value!!) go to to get this exclusive offer! care/of (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For 30% off your first care/of order go to and enter jamieo30. Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 20, 2019
Ep 25: Real Talk: Doug's Thoughts on Fatherhood & Helping Others with Anxiety & Depression
Doug & Jamie have been traveling a LOT lately and Doug hops on the podcast while Jamie is resting to chat all things being a daddy and how he makes it through the struggle of depression. He also talks about his appreciation for Jamie and all that she does for their family. He talks about how one of the most crazy decisions he and Jamie made was to get married to strangers and what a blessing it has been to be married to the love of his life. Hello Fresh (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For $80 off your first month ($20 off your first 4 boxes) go to and use promo code HMCP80 during checkout! Modsy (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For 20% off go to and use the promo code HMCP during checkout! Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 15, 2019
Ep 24: Doug & Jamie Take A Parenting Quiz & Seek Feedback From Henley! Doug's Parents Tell Embarrassing Childhood Memories!
Join us today for a super chill episode where Doug and Jamie talk parenting tips and even take a quiz! What do you think they will score? You might be surprised! We've had some heavy episodes lately and tonight Doug & Jamie are letting loose. Our amazing frans have been wanting to have Henley on the podcast, so she hangs out on the podcast for a bit too! And then to close it off, we have Doug's parents come on and tell some really crazy embarrassing stories about him. They are such a riot! Hello Fresh (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For $80 off your first month ($20 off your first 4 boxes) go to and use promo code JAMIE during checkout! Scentbird (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For 50% off your first month ($7.50 for your first order!) go to and use the promo code JAMIE during checkout! 10 Good Parenting Tips Psych Central Parenting Style Quiz Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jun 06, 2019
Ep 23: Real Talk: I've Had An Abortion and I'm Not Proud of It, But I'm No Longer Ashamed
I have a truth and it's time that I shared it with you. I'm not proud of the abortions that I have had, but with all the recent news I feel like it is important to shed light on this issue and give a face to abortion. Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, Doug and I totally respect your opinions and positions. It's time for us to get real about these issues and talk peaceably with one another even if we don't agree 💗One thing is for sure, if abortions become banned, people need to start getting serious about adopting babies and children, because there will be so many unwanted children in this world. Talkspace (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For $45 off your first month go to and use promo code JAMIE during checkout! Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 31, 2019
Ep 22: Real Talk: Mental Health Can Be A Real Witch. Big Brother stars Nicole Franzel & Victor Arroyo Join Us.
Anybody suffer from a mental illness and get shade for it? Yeah, me too girl. There is such a stigma around mental health...we just have to chat about it 💭on this week's episode we have a special guest - and ya may know her and her fiancé from Big Brother or Amazing Race! Nicole Franzel and her fiance Victor Arroyo chat with us about mental health. 💗Nicole opens up to us about her panic attacks that *literally* leave her on the floor...her docs chalk it up to anxiety, but she thinks there's something else going on 🧐This podcast episode is one ya won't want to miss 🎙 Away (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) For $20 off a suitcase visit and use promo code HMCP during checkout Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis Nicole Franzel on Instagram Victor Arroyo on Instagram Coco Caliente Podcast on Instagram Coco Caliente Podcast Website hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 25, 2019
Ep 21: Finding Jamie's Father (I Think I Found Him!) & Building Broken Relationships
We can't believe just how much has happened in the search for Jamie's father and we are excited to share the most recent excitement! Long story short 🤪Jamie thinks she has found him! [03:21] - We did it!!! We made it to 25K followers on Instagram! Check out our giveaway on Instagram! The contest ends on Sunday! [04:18] - Jamie says that she has been really patient and guarded about sharing her news about her search for her father but there have been some exciting updates she is ready to share! [05:35] - Jamie tells listeners that she has had 4 paternity tests and has been looking to find her father ever since she was a little girl. [06:50] - Jamie talks about her mom taking her to a man's trailer who she thinks might be her dad when she was very young, and Jamie talks about envisioning him being her dad. [10:47] - Jamie talks about the sadness she felt when her sister Amylynn found out who her father is and how odd it was that his last name is Otis! Her mom had him tested for Johanna and Jamie as well, but only Amy-Lynn came back a match for him. [11:44] Jamie shares that her father is a missing piece of her heart. [12:45] - Jamie says that she has braced herself for finding out who her father is. She has always hoped maybe he was a scholar since they lived near Cornell. Jamie's mother was 21 when she had Jamie. [13:52] - Jamie's passion to find her father grew once they had Henley Grace. She bought DNA kits right after Gracie was born. [14:31] - Jamie shares what came back on both Ancestry DNA and 23&me. [16:18] - Jamie shares some shocking news about a relative she matched with! [17:52] - Doug talks about how brave Jamie has been for being let down. [18:21] - Jamie talks about how as a nurse, she really wants to find out her family health history on her dad's side. [22:23] - Jamie's new relative she has connected with thinks she might know who her father is! [29:43] - Jamie asks her mother if she recognizes his picture from Facebook. [31:18] - Jamie shares that her mother went through a life of being sexually abused by Jamie's step-grandfather. [40:37] - Next week on the podcast...we bring on Jamie's friend who will chat with us about anxiety and mental health, as well as being on Amazing Race and Big Brother! Don't miss it! Grove Collaborative (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Go to to get a 3-piece cleaning set from Mrs. Meyer’s spring scents, a free 60-day VIP membership, and a surprise bonus gift just for you when you sign up and place an order of $20 or more! Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 16, 2019
Ep 20: Married at First Sight Stars Kate & Jasmine Are Here to Tell All & Share Kate's Big Secret! 🤯
Oh my gosh you guys! We finally have Kate and Jasmine in the house to tell ALL about their time on Married at First Sight and what's been going on since then! Kate even reveals a REALLY huge secret! Their season on MAFS was definitely one to be remembered, and you can find out everything you missed from behind the scenes in this podcast episode! [00:24] - We are almost at 25K followers on our Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. Instagram. Don't miss our big giveaway when we get to 25K! [01:59] - Jamie thanks frans who have tagged her in posts and talks about how she loves chatting with frans! [02:56] - Doug and Jamie talk about Bachelor Nation and the new tournament that is happening now! [07:30] - A doctor dropped a baby and wouldn't apologize! Doug and Jamie chat about their thoughts on this. [12:45] - Congrats to Prince Harry & Meghan Markle on their baby boy as well as Congrats to Amy Schumer & Chris Fischer on their baby boy too! [15:45] - Jamie talks to listeners about a pretty crappy situation she's having - with a hemmorhoid! 🥴 [19:07] - Doug and Jamie welcome Kate and Jasmine to the show! [21:45] - Jamie asks Kate and Jasmine: How did you hear about MAFS and what made you sign up for it? [28:45] - Everyone gets asked the question of what's going on with Luke. Jamie, Doug, Kate, and Jasmine talk about what they think. [29:56] - Something happened that has never happened on MAFS before! Luke recognized Kate! - what happened? [30:57] - Kate filled out every paper for the show & her perfect match really was Luke! He was everything she wanted - or at least she thought! [32:13] - Facebook at one point said that Luke is bisexual. Kate answers what she found out about that. [33:23] - Jamie asks Jasmine if Will was her type? [42:07] - Jasmine talks about the time she had a fruit loop pot bar and was high as a kite! [46:03] - Doug asks Kate if there was ever a breakdown with Luke while drinking where they were able to honestly talk. [47:45] - Jamie is dying to know if Luke really did say I feel dead inside after they had sex. Kate explains that she never thought it was actually directed toward her. [49:21] - Doug, Jamie, Kate, and Jasmine discuss whether they think Luke could be gay and the difficulty that he must feel. Jasmine talks about how hard it is for people to come out as gay. [52:45] - Jamie asks Kate: Why would you sleep with Luke if he says such mean things to you? [54:40] - Kate now has a platform where she can speak out about not being treated correctly after her experience on Married at First Sight. [55:31] - Jamie shares that she learned very much about herself while on Married at First Sight. Jamie asks Kate and Jasmine what kind of things they learned from the show now that they are outside of it. [01:05:00] - Last question for Kate and Jasmine: What's next for you? [01:07:51] - Kate reveals her BIG secret! [01:10:45] - One final question: Knowing what you know now, and exactly what you went through, would you do it over again? And If Married at First Sight came back to Philly, would you do it again? [01:16:40] - If you guys want to hear more from Married at First Sight people, let us know! [01:17:03] - Jamie is super excited to share about her search for her father next week on the podcast! Stay tuned! Audible (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Go to or text jamieo to 500-500 to start listening with a 30-day Audible trial and your first audiobook plus two Audible Originals are free. Visit or text jamieo to 500-500! StoryWorth (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Go to for $20 off the entire year! Care/Of (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Go to and use code JAMIEO30 to get 30% off your first Care/Of order! Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram Kate Sisk on Instagram Jasmine McGriff on Instagram jamie@j... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 09, 2019
Ep 19: Never Have I Ever with Amazing Race's Mallory Ervin and Hubby Kyle Dimeola 🌍
We are so excited for you guys to listen to this podcast! We had so much fun playing Never Have I Ever with Mallory and Kyle! [02:30] - Doug talks about current news issue about 1 year old little girl who got severe human bites at a daycare in Arizona. [04:50] - Doug and Jamie chat about Jay Cutler unclogging Kristin Cavallari's milk ducts. [06:00] - Jamie says she has considered trying placenta, but then Doug says that since they didn't do it for Henley, they don't want her to be jealous someday. 😆 [07:10] - Jamie talks about a time that she was on the plane and didn't have a manual pump so she had to try to squeeze milk out into the sink in the bathroom. [09:15] - Doug talks about a challenge that Channing Tatum lost and he ended up having to post an almost nude selfie! 😏 [12:10] - Doug suggests that you send in suggestions of challenges for him and Jamie to do! [17:38] - Welcome Mallory Ervin and Kyle Dimeola to the show! 🎙 [18:18] - Mallory says she was just born on the stage! [19:16] - Jamie and Mallory find out that they were in pageants at around the same time! [21:45] - Mallory gives the story of how she and Kyle met. [22:44] - Kyle gives his story of how they met - where would they be without Tennessee allergies? 😜 [25:36] - Doug shares that this year has been the best and that he and Jamie haven't ever been closer. 💞 [27:00] - Mallory talks about her time with her dad on Amazing Race. [34:23] - Kyle talks about a time when Mallory's breast sprayed milk all over the plane. [36:44] - Never have I ever tried breast milk. 🥛 [41:19] - Never have I ever farted and blamed it on a pet. 🤥 [42:37] - Never have I ever been in handcuffs. 😳 [48:14] - Never have I ever practiced kissing in the mirror. 💋 [49:55] - Never have I ever eaten a bug. 🦗 [50:31] - Never have I ever gone in public without a bra. 👙 [51:24] - Never have I ever been in love with a family member. 😱 [53:05] - Mallory and Kyle tell listeners how they can find them on social media and YouTube. [56:42] - Next week on the podcast we are super excited to have Kate and Jasmine from Married at First Sight! 👯‍♀️ [57:53] - We are almost at 25K followers on our Instagram page! We watching for a big giveaway! Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram Mallory Ervin on Instagram Kyle Dimeola on Instagram Mallory Ervin on YouTube Himalaya podcast app Baked by Melissa (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Use code JAMIE for 15% off your next order! TalkSpace (this episode’s amazing sponsor!) Use code JAMIE for $45 off your first month!  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
May 02, 2019
Ep 18: Jade & Tanner from Bachelor in Paradise Share about Their Miscarriage & Give Advice to Others Suffering 💜
We are so thankful to have Jade and Tanner from Bachelor in Paradise on the show today. They have just recently shared on their YouTube channel about the miscarriage they had while they were on Bachelor in Paradise. They are so raw and real, and SO genuine. You guys are going to love them and we truly hope that they are able to encourage all of the mommy's and daddy's out there who are struggling and feeling so very alone. PLEASE reach out to us if you are feeling one should have to suffer in silence 😢 This is definitely an episode you don't want to miss! [00:30] - Jamie welcomes everyone to the show! Henley is teething, so she woke up and Doug is putting Henley back to bed, so Jamie chats with listeners. With it being infertility awareness week, we will later chat with Jade and Tanner about the miscarriage they suffered a few years ago, and suffered alone until very recently. [01:30] - If you have suffered from a miscarriage, our hearts go out to you and we hope this episode is an encouragement. [02:15] - Jamie shares appreciation for people sending messages and answers a fran's question regarding a current hot topic in the news: Senator Maureen Walsh made the statement, "[Nurses] probably play cards for a considerable amount of the day."  [03:20] - Jamie shares excerpts from a blog post she came across talking about the different type of "cards" that nurses play and how the author, Kristina Smith, is thankful that they are card sharks! She is also the author of What I Wasn't Expecting When I Was Expecting, A Grieving Widow's Memoir. [05:44] - Jamie shares that nurses are the hardest working people she has ever met. [06:55] - Jamie reads a few different reviews that listeners have given and gives a quick explanation of why ads are needed to keep the podcast up! [10:10] - Jamie encourages listeners to stop and leave a review or screenshot while they are listening to the episode - we want to hear from you! [11:23] - Welcome Jade and Tanner to the show! Jade shares a little background of how she and Tanner met, and they share that they were married 7 months after they met! [13:35] - Jade and Tanner share about their miscarriage while filming Bachelor in Paradise and how they suffered alone for so long. Jade and Tanner give advice to listeners about what to do when you are struggling with the grief of miscarriage. [26:25] - Tanner talks about his season on The Bachelorette. [27:02] - Tanner tells Jamie that he remembers about hearing that Jamie had the most awkward moment on The Bachelor. [27:30] - Jade talks about her season on the Bachelor. [29:00] - Jamie shares that she thinks Jade and Tanner laid the groundwork for how Bachelor in Paradise should be because they are the first successful couple on Bachelor in Paradise. [30:00] - Jade and Tanner talk about the differences between The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, and Bachelor in Paradise. [32:26] - Jade tells listeners that they had their first kiss the first night of Bachelor in Paradise. [35:19] - Jade talks about moving to Kansas City to be with Tanner. [35:48] - Jamie and Doug talk to Jade and Tanner about their new little baby boy who is due in August and they throw around some fun names! [41:13] - Jamie asks Jade & Tanner a fran's question, "Why did you move to LA?" [44:10] - Jamie asks Jade if when she was on the Bachelor, if she ever felt like Chris could be the one? [46:00] - A fran asks the question to Jade and Tanner, "Would you let your daughter go on the Bachelor?" [47:55] - Doug and Jamie thank Jade and Tanner for all of their sweet advice for those suffering from a loss. [49:39] - Jamie talks about the need for having an episode sharing the guy's perspective of a loss. [52:35] - Doug says thank you to all of the listeners who follow him and Jamie on social media. Doug also shares what next week's episode will be about: Never Have I Ever with Doug and Jamie!!! Stay tuned! Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 25, 2019
Ep 17: Our Big Secret’s Revealed! And Big Doug & Bonnie Hehner Talk In-Law Problems
So you guys asked for it, and it's finally happening! Today we have ..... drumroll! ... Big Doug & Bonnie Hehner (Doug's parents)! They are a riot and we just know you are going to love hearing from them! But before we have them on, we are SO excited to FINALLY be able to reveal a very exciting secret of something that happened in Curacao! [01:00] - Jamie expresses appreciation to all the frans who are taking screenshots and adding sweet reviews - we have the best fans ever! [03:45] - Doug & Jamie ask you to stop and take a moment to leave a review and screenshot so that we can get to know you and know what you like and dislike about the podcast because we are here for you! [04:34] - Check out Himalaya and get Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. Episodes a day early! [05:00] - Jamie and Doug talk about their getaway anniversary trip to Curacao. [06:40] - Doug & Jamie chat about the incredible place where they stayed in Curacao, the Santa Barbara Beach & Golf Resort. The icing on the top? It's a private beach! 💃🏻 [07:45] - Doug & Jamie reveal their BIG secret! [09:15] - Jamie & Doug reveal that they should find out soon if she is pregnant! [13:24] - Doug & Jamie give intro for their special guests on the podcast, Gaga & Pop-Pop Hehner! [13:55] - Jamie says she loves her in-laws more than life itself and that they would do anything for them. [14:09] - Jamie gives update on the search for her father. [14:54] - Doug & Jamie talk about their YouTube page for Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. Jamie also talks about her book and how it was released at a very difficult time in her life, just one month after losing their baby, Johnathan. [18:25] - It took 16 episodes to get Doug's parents on the podcast! [18:37] - Doug, Jamie, Doug Sr. & Bonnie chat about Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman's recent college scandals. [22:17] - Jamie asks if they think the ladies will end up in jail for their crimes. [22:56] - One of our frans asks, "What's the best part about being grandparents?" [23:22] - Bonnie says each of her kids are equal, but there is something a little bit special about each one. [25:47] - Another fran asks, "What did you really think when Doug told you he was marrying a stranger?" [26:56] - Jamie is still called Olga, this is a mail order bride, in Big Doug's phone and he is still Yogi Doug Hehner in Jamie's phone. [27:26] - Big Doug says, "When you have a kid, that's when you know what actual love really is and that doesn't go away." They talk about having that same kind of love for grandkids and missing them when they aren't around. [28:06] - Doug shares his heart about worrying about Henley's safety. [31:31] - Jamie asks a few common questions that frans requested: "How did they meet and what is their love story?" and "How did they feel when you got married and started a family?" [32:58] - Doug actually went to the bar to see Bonnie's friend Sue, but then he saw Bonnie and asked, "Where'd all your fat go?" 😳 Big Doug says, "She stayed with me - she must've loved me because I was honest." 😆 [36:20] - Bonnie talks about how she and Doug left the bar together and she had had a little too much to drink and they were making out in the middle of the street. [36:42] - 6 weeks later they were engaged, and 11 months later they were married. So Jamie says they can't judge them too hard for marrying complete strangers 😂 [39:30] - Doug talks about divorce and how it is a sad thing, but can at times be a positive thing because what's the point of staying in a marriage that is horrible. Big Doug talks about the struggles he had growing up with his parents divorce. [42:40] - Last questions from frans, "Did you ever think of giving up on Jamie the 1st year?" and "How did they feel about Married at First Sight and meeting Jamie for the first time?" [46:10] - Jamie talks about how they would of course judge her, because she is "this weirdo that got married to someone in a strange way." Doug tells her that she probably made... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 18, 2019
Ep 16: Creating a Lasting Relationship with The Knot's Steve Dziedzic
Oh my gosh, Married at First Sight Reunion was a wild one! We are so glad that Kate finally got to speak out about Luke and stood her ground! She is such a strong girl and she is going to find the perfect husband someday who will treat her like a princess! We can't believe that they are already casting for more couples in Washington D.C.! If you wanna find your scientifically perfect match, apply now! We are late in posting this because we have been a little busy the past few days 💃🏻 while we are in Curacao celebrating F I V E years together! We are super excited to chat on today's episode with Steve Dziedzic, who created the app, Lasting. We talk all about the struggles that couples go through and how it is so important to focus on each other's emotional needs. This app, Lasting, makes it super easy! In This Episode: [00:45] - SPOILER ALERT - We chat about the MAFS reunion, and if you aren't caught up, you might wanna skip to [14:49] - You've been warned! 🙂 [16:32] - We left our mics in the luggage at the airport on accident. So, we have crappy audio and Steve sounds awesome. But thankfully we got the mics back now! [17:12] - Introducing Steve Dziedziak, the CEO of Lasting App. [20:51] - Steve gives us a background of what made him want to create the app, Lasting, and how the Knot has helped to fulfill his dream. [23:00] - Lasting App likes to flip self-care on its head, because developing your sense of self stems out of the relationship with another person. [24:26] - There is no better time for an app like this because people are meeting online and getting matched up and everything seems to be electronic. [24:53] - Doug and Jamie are both proponents of counseling because their marriage was founded on the counseling part. [25:19] - The majority of people who want to go to therapy don't end up going. On average a person goes to therapy S I X years after seeing a problem, and by then it is often too late for reconciliation. [30:32] - We ask Steve a question from a fran - "How to Speak to Your Spouse About Mental Health - He just doesn't get it." [32:38] - Write down what you are wanting to say and practice it before you say it because the power to sway everything from the beginning is enormous. [33:12] - The process of revealing what is in your head space is far more important than the actual outcome of any given situation because that leads to trust. [33:30]- Steve answers another question from a fran - "How do you keep the love alive after kids?" [34:05] - One of the most common mistakes with new parents is that they don't edit their lifestyle with each other post baby. [36:00] - Thank you, Jamie, for all that you do for our family. [37:14] - Technology can actually be healthy. [37:56] - One of the most popular features in the lasting app is being able to tell Lasting to remind you to express appreciation at a certain time of day. [39:10] - The entire app is based on attachment theory. You're both emotionally dependent on one another. Lasting learns both of your sets of needs. [40:30] - In order to grow you have to find yourself and get yourself healthy. [43:56] - Steve explains some practical applications for environment design, such as putting your phone charger in another room besides your bedroom so that you can take distractions away from spending time with your partner. [46:31] - Steve answers question from fran - "How do you do date nights when you have two babies and literally no family to watch them?" [48:24] - Steve answers another question - "How do you create boundaries with the in-laws (surprise visits)?" [52:43] - Next week's special guests...drum roll...Big Doug & Bonnie Hehner answer lots of questions from frans! [53:08] - We LOVE getting to know you guys - please tag us while you listen because we would love to give a shoutout! Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Inst... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 11, 2019
Ep 15: A Love Letter Life with Jeremy and Audrey Roloff
Believe it or not, it’s been five years since we’ve been together! Don’t mind us while we take a moment at the beginning of our episode today to appreciate each other, and talk about how we spent our five-year anniversary. We’re both so thankful that our crazy adventure on Married at First Sight turned into finding each other and creating our beautiful family! And now, onto today’s guests! You may be familiar with Jeremy and Audrey Roloff from the long-running show Little People, Big World. They (like us!) were married in 2014, and our daughters were born only about a month apart. Their love for each other is absolutely infectious, and we’re thrilled to have them on the show today! Neither Jeremy nor Audrey had ever been on a blind date before letting their friends set them up. Sparks didn’t exactly fly immediately, but they took the time to get to know each other. Jeremy pursued Audrey for two years after that, he explains, and they chat about how often they saw each other during these years of friendship before they started dating. Are you as intrigued as we are by Jeremy’s patience? In our conversation today, Audrey and Jeremy will explore what he did during this time that helped encourage her to lower her walls and let him get closer, as well as the mindset that let Jeremy be patient and persistent. He’ll explain his unusual view on the “friend zone,” and how this new perspective can help lead to a relationship. Tune into this episode to hear their advice on keeping the fire and passion alive in a long-term relationship and marriage, the power of scheduling sex, their tips for couples before they say “I do,” what you can expect to find in their new book A Love Letter Life, and more! In This Episode: [01:32] - Welcome back to the show! Doug and Jamie take a moment to share their appreciation for each other for their five-year anniversary. [05:54] - Jamie explains what she and Doug will be doing to celebrate their anniversary. Doug then passionately explains the issues with shows featuring orcas, dolphins, and other animals. [09:57] - We hear a couple shout-outs to amazing listeners who left reviews. [12:32] - Today’s guests are Jeremy and Audrey Roloff. [14:11] - Jeremy talks about how he and Audrey met, which was actually on a blind date. [15:45] - What was it that was holding Audrey back and keeping her guarded while Jeremy was pursuing her? [16:40] - How often did Jeremy and Aubrey actually see each other during the two years that they were friends before they started dating? [22:58] - Audrey talks about what it was that Jeremy was doing that helped her lower her walls, and Jeremy explains what allowed him to be so patient and persistent? [25:24] - We hear Jeremy and Audrey’s tips on keeping the fire and passion alive in a relationship, especially when it’s long-distance. [28:49] - What are some of Audrey and Jeremy’s tips for couples before they say “I do”? [31:10] - Audrey talks about some of the things that you can find in their forthcoming book, A Love Letter Life. [33:22] - How is the Roloff farm doing? [35:03] - We hear about whether Jeremy and Audrey are relieved to step away, or whether they’re feeling left out. [37:02] - What one thing do Audrey and Jeremy want listeners to take away from their message, both here and in their book? [39:53] - Jamie makes a simple request: screenshot the podcast, post a selfie, and tag @jamieotis and #hotmarriagecoolparents! Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram Jeremy Roloff on Twitter Jeremy Roloff on Instagram Jeremy Roloff on Facebook Audrey Roloff on Twitter Audrey Roloff on Instagram Audrey Roloff on Facebook A Love Letter Life by Jeremy Roloff and Audrey Roloff A Love Letter Life Beating 50 Percent Little People, Big World Ultimate Int... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Apr 02, 2019
Ep 14: Questions for Jamie
Hey, frans! Jamie here. Doug couldn’t join me today (except for a quick intro), so you get to hear from just me in this episode! I might have been just a little jealous that Doug got to do his very own Q&A episodes, so it’s my turn today. Since Doug wasn’t able to be here anyway, it was perfect timing for this episode. I put out an invitation for questions on Instagram, and got plenty of responses that I’m excited to address today, so let’s dive right in! First up, I’ll talk about whether I’m cleared to start trying for another baby yet. (Not quite, but we’re getting closer.) I’ll also chat about sleep training and whether we ever co-slept with Gracie. We didn’t co-sleep with her, as I’ll explain in more depth, and getting her to sleep was a lot of work. She had to be rocked until she fell asleep, and then even longer to make sure she was in a deep sleep before we could put her down. Our next question is about my last name, and whether I legally changed it to match Doug’s or kept my maiden name. (Curious about the answer? You’ll have to tune into the episode!) I’ll chat about how many words Gracie can say, whether we enjoy or feel disrupted when fans recognize us in public and say hi, how to stay positive when you see other people around you getting pregnant and much more. In today’s Q&A episode, I’ll go from the fun and lighthearted to the deeply personal, and answer as many of your questions as I can! You know how devoted I am to being honest and transparent with you, and this episode is a great opportunity for that. In This Episode: [00:58] - Doug welcomes listeners to the show, and explains that this is another Q&A episode, featuring Jamie this time. [02:32] - Today’s shoutout goes to an iTunes listener who left a review. [05:29] - The first question of the day is about whether Jamie is cleared to start trying for another baby! [06:42] - How old was Gracie when Doug and Jamie started sleep training, and did they co-sleep with her? [11:32] - Jamie talks about whether she legally changed her last name. [12:26] - How many words is Gracie saying now that she’s 18 months old? [13:22] - Jamie shares her feelings on being approached for pictures in public, and shares their mailing address. [16:27] - Did Jamie have postpartum depression or anxiety? [18:47] - Jamie addresses a question about whether she has found her dad yet. [21:26] - What is Jamie’s favorite part of LA? [22:31] - What has been the best, and what has been the hardest, in Jamie and Doug’s marriage so far? [24:55] - How did Doug’s family react after reading Jamie’s book, Wifey 101? [23:56] - If it hadn’t worked out with Doug, would Jamie have gone on another reality show to find love? [26:39] - Jamie shares some advice on how to stay positive as you see everyone around you getting pregnant. [33:10] - What was it like being a nurse? In her answer, Jamie clarifies that she still is a nurse, and will continue to be. [34:25] - Has becoming parents made Jamie and Doug stronger as a couple, or has it made things harder? [35:37] - What scares Jamie the most about being a mom? [36:56] - Jamie talks about whether she would let her daughter get married at first sight in the future. [38:13] - Any blood work back in terms of baby-making? [39:03] - We hear more about the benefits of sleep training in response to a fan’s question. [40:03] - Does Jamie like the west coast better than the east coast? [40:47] - Will Jamie and Doug continue trying to conceive, or will they go for adoption instead? [41:54] - Jamie talks about whether her first impression of Doug still impacts their relationship today. [42:32] - How many kids do Doug and Jamie want? [42:53] - That’s it! Are you dying to know the answer to a question that wasn’t answered here? Shoot Jamie your question on Instagram! Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 26, 2019
Ep 13: Going Behind the Scenes of Reality TV with Kate Casey
Before we dive in today, we just want to take a moment to say thank you! We really appreciate that you’re here and listening to our show, and how loyal and supportive you are. In today’s show, we’ll start off by chatting about Married at First Sight! The current season is coming to a close, and soon the couples will need to decide whether they want to stay married. So if you’re not up-to-date on the show, go watch it and then come back so you don’t accidentally hear spoilers! Can you believe that Kate and Luke have been having sex since the honeymoon?! The way he talks about her has never been okay, but knowing that they’ve been intimate this whole time is wild. We’ll also talk about AJ and Stephanie’s interactions in the newest episode, and Stephanie’s (wise!) decision to go to bed mid-drama. Everyone is talking about Kate and Luke, so we’d love to hear your thoughts on AJ and Stephanie in particular! Our guest today is Kate Casey, who you may recognize from her podcast Reality Life with Kate Casey! She interviews top producers and directors, and somehow manages to get the inside scoop on everything. Today, she goes beyond her professional life, and explains both her complicated relationship with her father and what it’s like to be a parent of five children. Kate believes that lots of people (including some from this season of MAFS…) go on reality shows not because they believe in the premise of the show, but because they want a boost to their business or social media. Tune into the episode to hear more about her theory, as well as which shows she recommends watching! In This Episode: [00:58] - Welcome to the show, and thank you so much for being here! Before we start, here’s a shoutout to a listener who left a review on iTunes. [02:32] - Let’s talk about Married at First Sight! We’re approaching the end of the season, when the people on the show will decide whether they want to get married. [05:06] - Jamie and Doug move onto talking about AJ and Stephanie, and whether any of the couples are a genuinely good match. [07:23] - Doug and Jamie introduce today’s guest, Kate Casey. [09:08] - Kate talks about her life growing up, and explains the complicated non-relationship that she had with her father (and how they get along today). [14:00] - We learn that Kate’s father isn’t interested in doing a DNA test. [14:48] - Is it manageable to have five kids? [20:48] - Kate has been watching this season of Married at First Sight, and shares her reaction to Luke as well as her thoughts on why people tend to go on later seasons of reality shows. [25:18] - Kate talks about how many cast members pitch themselves for a spinoff, and shares her experience in meeting the cast of 90 Day Fiance. [31:06] - Jamie rewinds a bit and explains what they’re talking about for anyone who isn’t up to date on this season of MAFS. [34:05] - Would Kate sleep with someone if they told her that they felt dead and repulsed after making out with her? [35:58] - Kate shares her thoughts on this season of the Bachelor, and whether Colton is in love with any of the girls. [39:16] - Doug explains that lots of the guys auditioning for MAFS in the first season were actors. [41:43] - Jamie believes that the experts on MAFS are pure, she explains. [46:43] - The American MAFS is more genuine than the Australian version, Jamie explains, and Kate talks more about the Australian version. [50:28] - Kate offers some suggestions for reality shows that Jamie might like to binge. [52:01] - What are Kate’s top three favorite reality shows, and what are some she dislikes? [59:47] - We hear Kate’s recommendation for what to watch after finishing Leaving Neverland. [61:41] - Where can listeners find Kate to learn more about her or keep up with her podcast? Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagr... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 19, 2019
Ep 12: Questions for Doug Part 2
A couple weeks ago, we did an episode where Doug answered a lot of questions from listeners. We really enjoyed it, and from the feedback we’ve gotten, it sounds like you did too! He got so many questions, though, that we weren’t able to cover them all in just one episode. Since you liked that one so much, we’re back with part two to finish answering all the questions we didn’t get to last time! Jamie needs to head out, so most of this episode will just be Doug answering your questions! If you’ve ever wanted to hear more about him and have him be the star of the show for an episode, this is the one for you, so don’t miss it. He’ll answer questions ranging from the deeply personal to the fun and whimsical, and you’ll get a great insight into who he is. Doug will start things off by talking about his expectations of being a parent, and how the reality was different from what he expected. As he’ll point out, one of the hardest things is not knowing what you’re doing right. He’ll then talk about how much of Married at First Sight is real as opposed to staged or edited for dramatic effect. At least in the first season, it was all real! (And no, Doug doesn’t get to see new MAFS episodes before they air.) Other great questions that Doug will answer include whether he feels like being on TV has changed him (and whether any changes were for the better), whether he got much extra attention from women (and ex-girlfriends in particular) after the show aired, what Doug’s best piece of marriage advice is, and even how Doug lost his virginity. Don’t miss this unique episode that lets you learn more about Doug, his perspective, and his experiences as a husband, dad, and MAFS success story. In This Episode: [00:07] - Doug announces that he and Jamie want to give listener shoutouts, and explains how to potentially get a shoutout in a future episode! [01:37] - Jamie chats about how much Doug enjoys this kind of episode, and mentions that she’ll be absent for most of today’s show. [03:33] - The first question for Doug is about what has surprised him the most about parenthood, and what was easier (and harder) than he expected. [06:41] - Doug shares the next question, which is about whether Doug and Jamie will do more (and longer) vlogs on YouTube. [07:52] - How much of Married at First Sight is real? And will Doug and Jamie be visiting Toronto any time soon? [10:40] - Before MAFS, had Doug ever been close to proposing to someone? [12:21] - Doug answers a question about whether he gets to see new MAFS episodes before everyone else. He then talks about how he handled the recent miscarriage. [15:13] - What does the tattoo across Doug’s chest mean? Did Doug end up getting stitches in his hand, after his recent incident with a knife? [17:00] - Now that Doug is in the public eye, are women coming onto him more? Have any of his ex-girlfriends reached out to him? [21:05] - Does Doug think that being on TV has changed him as an individual? If so, was it for the better? [23:25] - What is Doug’s favorite movie and TV show? What is he listening to? Do Doug and Jamie get free or discounted merchandise in exchange for promotions? And would Doug and Jamie get matching tattoos? [26:55] - How do Doug and Jamie deal with having a difference of opinion when it comes to raising Henley? [28:52] - Doug answers a question about how he and Jamie get through their losses. [32:36] - Which bands, music, and singers does Doug like? [34:31] - Doug explains why he and Jamie are in California at the moment, and whether it’s a permanent move. [37:00] - What’s Doug’s top piece of marriage advice, coming from the perspective of a guy? [39:58] - Doug answers a multiple-part question about his dream job, whether he’s a Trump supporter, whether he goes to church, and whether he’s a good dancer. [42:13] - What one thing should women understand about how men feel during the fertility struggle? [45:25] - Is Doug’s hair growing back yet? Does he get hit on a lot? Has anyone e... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 13, 2019
Ep 11: Motherhood in Hollywood
We’re super excited to have Heather Brooker on the show today. This mom, comedian, podcaster, and actress has been on shows including The Office and Grey’s Anatomy, and Jamie really looks up to her. If you’re not familiar with her from her acting roles, you might recognize her from her podcast Motherhood in Hollywood. As you’ll hear in this conversation, Jamie is really excited to hear about Heather’s life and career. Heather has been a TV reporter and international correspondent, as well as a host on the red carpet at the Oscars, so you can imagine why Jamie is thrilled for this conversation! You’ll love it, too, because it’s a powerful look into accomplishing big dreams, even when it takes a while. One thing that Heather has struggled with is finding a place in Hollywood as a heavier actress. We’ll go into some depth today about the issues with typecasting and the tendency to portray heavy people as being funny when they’re the butt of fat jokes instead of being comedic in their own right. As you might have guessed from that, being heavy in Hollywood requires a lot of confidence. And, luckily, that’s something that Heather has! It’s great to hear her take on how she builds and maintains this confidence, even when it seems like the people around her are set on destroying it. In fact, she’s so confident that she’s able to joke and laugh about events that would hurt other people deeply. Just wait ‘til you hear her story about trying to get Hugh Grant’s attention! Tune in to hear a refreshing, down-to-earth, and downright funny perspective on what it’s like to be a mother in Hollywood, a heavier woman on the red carpet, and a wife who’s been married for more than half of her life. She’s an amazing person, and this conversation was such a treat! Today’s Guest: Heather Brooker Heather Brooker in Twitter Heather Brooker on Instagram Heather Brooker on LinkedIn Motherhood in Hollywood Motherhood in Hollywood on Facebook In This Episode: [01:20] - Welcome to the show, and thank you to everyone who asked Doug a question last week! [06:38] - Doug introduces today’s guest, Heather Brooker. Heather’s daughter also chimes in to say hi! [09:17] - Heather talks about how she came up with the name Motherhood in Hollywood. [11:15] - What was it like to be a host on the red carpet at the Oscars? [11:17] - Jamie responds to Heather, sharing a point about reaching for big dreams. [14:52] - We hear a bit of a blog post that Heather wrote that really resonated with Jamie, and that a lot of listeners will probably relate to as well. [19:15] - Doug responds to what Heather has been saying about her audition for the part of “Fat Pam.” [21:04] - Heather points out that fat jokes are an easy target, and digs into why it might be more acceptable to make fat jokes than racial jokes, for example. [23:21] - Is Heather’s daughter always in the back of her mind when she’s choosing new roles? [25:43] - Heather shares a story about being on Facebook Live at the red carpet, as well as other tales from the red carpet. [30:25] - We hear Heather’s thoughts on having publicists who are very standoffish and even rude to reporters. [33:19] - Heather shares tips on how she gained and maintains her amazing confidence. [36:25] - Another way that Heather maintains her confidence is by knowing what she brings to the table, she explains. [38:49] - Heather chats about her relationship with her husband, who she met when she was just 21 years old. [43:32] - Does Heather have any tips or advice on marriage? [47:05] - Heather points out that sometimes it can seem like you’re being insincere on social media, even if you’re trying to be open. [48:29] - Where can listeners find Heather online? Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Mar 06, 2019
Ep 10: Questions for Doug Part 1
Today’s show is going to be a little different! Instead of having guests, Doug will take today’s episode to answer listeners’ questions. He invited these questions on social media before the show, and hasn’t even read them yet because he wants his answers to be completely real and unrehearsed. Ready for this?! Before we get into Doug’s Q&A session, we’ll talk together to answer one of the most common questions we get from listeners: why we’re in Los Angeles right now! Jamie loves California and feels at home here, so she put it out to the universe that she wanted to spend significant time here before our daughter is in school. Tune into the episode to learn how we made this work! Our first question is about the most difficult chapter in our marriage after the show ended. This was when we had to move into Doug’s parents’ house after Jamie got pregnant. If Jamie hadn’t been pregnant, we actually might not have made it through this period. Our next question goes the other direction: what’s a positive thing about marriage that Doug didn’t expect? His answer is all about communication. Other topics we’ll address in the answers to these questions include how Doug felt about Jamie at their wedding and immediately afterward, whether Doug struggles with Jamie’s initial lack of attraction to him, how he became such a secure person, whether we still watch Married at First Sight, how he would rate our marriage, whether Doug officiates weddings, This is your chance to learn all about Doug, so don’t miss it! And if you want to submit a question to a potential future Q&A episode, stay tuned on our Instagram accounts. We’ll let you know when we’re accepting questions for the next Q&A session with one (or maybe both) of us. We love to get your questions, and we’d really like to get your feedback on whether you want more episodes like this! Today’s Guest: Maya Vorderstrasse on Instagram @MayaVstrasse on Twitter Maya Vorderstrasse on Facebook Once Upon a Letter Board In This Episode: [01:20] - Doug welcomes listeners, and explains what today’s episode will be all about. [07:35] - Jamie was unaware of the “ask Doug anything” event on social media. She then shares the story of Doug accidentally stabbing himself in the hand. [11:44] - Listeners learn why Jamie and Doug are in LA right now, and how much Jamie loves spending time in California. [16:33] - Doug starts his Q&A segment! The first question is about what was the most difficult chapter in our marriage after the show ended. [20:33] - What is one positive thing about marriage that Doug didn’t expect? [21:36] - Are Doug and Jamie considering moving to LA? [22:40] - How did Doug feel about Jamie during the wedding, immediately afterward, and the next day? [26:25] - How did Doug move past the fact that Jamie wasn’t attracted to him at first? Is he insecure about this now? [28:08] - Jamie shares a story about her awkwardness. [30:02] - How did Doug become such a secure person? [31:05] - Would Doug and Jamie do another reality show? Are they watching the new season? What do they think of people comparing Jamie to Luke? [32:42] - Did Doug quit smoking? [33:37] - How would Doug rate the marriage today? Is Jamie content now? [35:21] - Why did Doug become ordained to officiate weddings, and does he do so regularly? [37:07] - What’s the best part of being a dad? [38:09] - How does Doug’s family deal with the temporary move to California? What do Doug and Jamie struggle with when it comes to co-parenting? [39:57] - What is the best advice that Doug’s parents gave him about marriage and parenting? Do Doug and Jamie get along with each other’s siblings? What’s the meaning of Doug’s tattoo? What are Jamie and Doug’s annoying habits? [42:36] - Does Henley have Doug’s personality, or Jamie’s? [43:19] - What would Doug miss the most, and enjoy the most, if their life in front of the camera ended tomorrow? [45:51] - There are so many more questions that the rest will need to be in Part 2! Let us know if you... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 27, 2019
Ep 9: Postpartum Depression with Maya V.
There are some people on Instagram who Jamie loves following, and today’s guest is one of them! Maya Vorderstrasse is a fantastic inspiration, and you might recognize some of her ideas as the inspiration for some of our own Instagram pictures. As the mom of “Irish twins,” Maya has two children who were born within 12 months of each other. (So if you thought you couldn’t get pregnant while breastfeeding, think again!) This already sounds overwhelming, but add to it the fact that Maya’s whole family is in Brazil, so she doesn’t have the sort of day-to-day family help that could lift some of the burden. She’s open about the struggles of parenthood, not only in terms of this family situation, but also her struggle with postpartum depression. As you’ll learn today, Maya was super energetic after her first daughter’s birth and during her second pregnancy. Even immediately after the second birth, she felt excited (even though some days were hard). To her surprise and confusion, postpartum depression set in months after having her second baby. She felt like she was fading away, and spent months ignoring the feeling and trying to push it down. Finally, it burst forth as anger so bad that she left a hole in the wall, and her husband supported her in getting help. This was when she was finally diagnosed with postpartum depression. In our conversation, Maya offers a sensitive, intimate, and often humor-filled look into the realities of postpartum depression. She openly shares her journey, offering a realistic yet inspirational look into dealing with this struggle. If you’re a woman who has suffered from postpartum depression (or might in the future), this episode will give you hope. And if you’re lucky enough to be someone who will never need to deal with postpartum depression directly, this conversation will help you understand the struggles so you can be a better partner, family member, or friend. Today’s Guest: Maya Vorderstrasse on Instagram @MayaVstrasse on Twitter Maya Vorderstrasse on Facebook Once Upon a Letter Board In This Episode: [00:37] - Jamie and Doug welcome listeners to today’s episode, and chat about today’s guest, Maya Vorderstrasse. [06:51] - Maya comes onto the show and jokes about why she’s doing this episode in the car. [09:08] - We hear about how Maya takes her pictures without a photographer, and how she gets her babies to sleep at the same time. [11:15] - Maya explains what it means to be a mom of “Irish twins,” and talks about her breastfeeding experience. [13:30] - Jamie shares her perspective as a labor and delivery nurse on the topic of breastfeeding. [15:13] - How does Maya do it, in terms of having two young children who are only 11 months apart in age? [18:22] - We learn that Maya’s family is all in Brazil, so she doesn’t have the kind of local support that might make things easier. [20:45] - Does Maya feel like she has conquered her postpartum depression? She answers, and talks about the experience of developing postpartum depression six months after having her second child. [23:52] - Maya talks about the anger that developed as part of her postpartum depression, and how she ended up getting diagnosed. [27:58] - When Maya’s kids were born, she decided that they were the only thing that mattered, and that’s what led to her falling apart. [29:15] - Jamie takes a moment to talk about the importance of getting help, and encourage listeners to seek treatment for mental health struggles. [30:43] - Maya shares her experience with medication for her postpartum depression. [34:29] - We hear Jamie’s response to what Maya has been saying, and her own experience with the ease of letting yourself go in favor of caring for a baby. [37:29] - Doug points out how much a child will mimic a parent’s behavior, which is a good reason to take care of yourself. [38:35] - Maya shares something that she and her husband did after having a child to ensure that they did the best for their family. [41:40] - How did Maya feel when ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 20, 2019
Ep 8: Dating as a Single Mom and Creating a New Family With Erica Rose & Chuck
If you’re a Bachelor fan, you’re already familiar with the lovely Erica Rose! We became really good friends on Bachelor Pad, and she was even at our wedding on Married at First Sight. Erica became a single mom shortly after having her daughter, and is now very happily remarried. We think her tips on finding love as a single mom will be really powerful for all the single moms listening to this podcast. As you’ll learn today, Erica met a lawyer at work, and they quickly decided together to have a child that they would co-parent. They got pregnant on the first try, and actually ended up getting engaged. As Erica reveals, though, this was out of obligation more than being in love; their personalities were too different to be compatible as a couple. When her daughter was just six weeks old, Erica and her ex separated, and she moved from California back home to Texas for more family support. She and her ex tried to keep things open and have a happy family, but it was very painful for both of them. It took a while before Erica was ready to look for love again, because she needed time to get back to being herself again. One of the most impactful parts of this episode is Erica’s insight and tips for single moms. She talks about how important it is not to date until you’re ready. Other tips include having a good support system around you, and making sure you’re looking and feeling confident before you start dating. If you’re a single parent (or know one), don’t miss this episode that will give you insight, inspiration, and an intimate look into what it’s like to date after having kids. Today’s Guests: Erica Rose on Instagram Erica Rose on Twitter Erica Rose Sanders on Facebook Charles Sanders on Instagram Charles K. Sanders on Facebook In This Episode: [00:37] - Doug and Jamie welcome listeners to today’s episode of the podcast and introduce the guest, Erica Rose. [03:36] - We learn more about Jamie’s upbringing with a single mom and several siblings, as well as her quest to find her father. [06:48] - Jamie shares a question that she wonders: if her mom had had support and the right resources, would her life had turned out differently? [10:21] - Jamie takes a moment to introduce Erica Rose and her husband, Chuck. [11:29] - Erica explains how she and Jamie met and how their friendship developed. [13:13] - We learn that Erica had no success on Tinder, but reconnected with Chuck on Bumble. Jamie shares one of her own Tinder stories. [17:37] - Erica shares the story of how she and her ex met and decided to have a child together. [22:57] - What was it like for Erica to be a single mom? [25:42] - Erica talks about the point when she was ready to date again, and we hear more about how she and Chuck met. [28:46] - We hear about how much importance Erica’s dad put on her spouse being Jewish, and how that played out. [32:41] - Erica takes a moment to express her appreciation for how open Doug and Jamie are. [33:08] - What does Chuck do? [37:54] - We learn about how little Chuck knows about the Bachelor, and Erica talks about her tiara. [40:19] - What was Jamie and Doug’s wedding like from Erica’s perspective as a guest? [42:59] - Erica offers some tips and advice to single moms. [46:55] - Jamie shares a story about a funny moment with Erica and Chuck. [49:24] - Do Erica and Chuck have any tips that they live by, not necessarily for single moms specifically? [54:38] - Where can listeners find Erica and Chuck online to follow them and keep up with them? [56:31] - With the interview part of the episode over, Jamie and Doug chat about Erica and Chuck (and their relationship). [58:322] - Doug and Jamie share a snippet of Wifey 101. [60:47] - This week, the question that Jamie and Doug will answer is why they call their daughter both Henley and Gracie. [64:43] - Jamie and Doug close the episode with a quote from their Instagram account. Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 13, 2019
Ep 7: Doing Your Best, Life as a Mom, & Remembering to Laugh With Cat & Nat
It’s just me, Jamie, hosting the show today! When Doug went to drop our daughter off at daycare, the car broke down, so he can’t join me. The show must go on, though, and I can’t wait for you to hear this conversation with today’s guests! I think you’ll love Cat & Nat, who are amazingly funny and offer refreshing perspectives on parenting. Cat and Nat are basically twins with different parents. They’ve been friends since high school, and even have husbands with the same name. Today, their lives are deeply intertwined, as you’ll hear in this conversation! These two amazing women stumbled their way into becoming mom millionaires, and they want to help you become a mom millionaire too! As a stay-at-home mom, it can be hard to watch your husband feeling the stress of being the only breadwinner, and you might even feel guilty about spending the money that he earns. Finding your own financial success relieves this stress on both of you. Since you’re listening to this podcast, you probably already know that Doug and I met on Married at First Sight. Since Cat and Nat don’t know that story, though, I’ll tell it to them (including with some background on my time on The Bachelor), and I think you might enjoy hearing it from this different perspective! You’ll also hear about one of the most awkward moments that I had with Doug. Of course I wish that Doug could have been here for this conversation, but it was super fun (and even funny, I think!) even though he couldn’t be here. Tune in to hear all about being a real mom from two moms who really get it, and who are here to offer the perfect combination of fantastic advice, non-judgmental understanding, and a big dose of fun. I think you’ll love these two as much as I do! Today’s Guests: Shawniece on Instagram Jephte on Instagram Shawniece on Twitter Jephte on Twitter In This Episode: [00:37] - Welcome to the show! Jamie will be hosting it alone today thanks to Doug’s car problems. [04:37] - Cat & Nat joke about how to tell which of them is which (even though they aren’t identical twins, or even sisters). [06:18] - We hear the story of Cat and Nat’s friendship, which started when they were in high school. [1:33] - Do Jamie and her husband both work from home? [12:37] - We learn that Jamie discovered Cat & Nat on Instagram, and we hear an excerpt from their their #MOMTRUTHS clip about Marie Kondo. [16:26] - We hear about the difficulty of throwing out things that don’t spark joy when you’re a busy mom. [18:24] - What are Cat and Nat’s tips for moms who want to become mom millionaires too? [21:18] - Jamie, Cat, and Nat talk about finances, being a working mom, or staying at home. [23:32] - We hear about how Jamie and Doug met and got married, including the background of her time on The Bachelor. [29:20] - How did Jamie’s family react to her decision to get married at first sight? [30:53] - Jamie talks about her book, and gives an example from the book of an awkward situation she and Doug got into. [34:14] - Cat and Nat talk about their upcoming book, Cat and Nat’s Mom Truths, as well as their tour and Jamie’s desire to move to California. [40:49] - Where can people find Cat and Nat online? [42:02] - Jamie reassures listeners that Doug isn’t stranded and in trouble, even though he wasn’t able to be here for the episode. [43:54] - We hear an excerpt from Jamie’s book Wifey 101. Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram Cat & Nat Cat & Nat on YouTube Cat & Nat on Facebook @catandnat on Instagram Casper Mattresses (our sponsor!) Use code JamieO at checkout for a $50 discount! FabFitFun (our sponsor!) Use coupon code 40Jamie for a discount! Care/of Personalized Vitamin Subscription Packs (our sponsor!) Use coupon code Jamie50 for a discount! Who is Marie Kondo?! #M... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Feb 06, 2019
Ep 6: Shawniece & Jephte Talk Marriage, Reconciliation, and Parenthood
Before we dive into today’s episode, we want to say thank you to all of you for the love and support for the miscarriage we recently experienced. You’re incredible, and we’re so grateful for each and every one of you. Today’s guests are Married at First Sight Season 6 stars Shawniece and Jephte. They had a tumultuous pregnancy during which they separated, but found their way back together again. We went through some struggles while pregnant too and honestly didn’t know if our marriage would pull through, so we can absolutely relate to them. At the beginning of their relationship, Shawniece was instantly smitten. For Jephte, though, things took a while longer. They’ll explain today how their journey progressed from this stage to being in a solid, loving relationship with a baby. We’ll also learn about how Dr. Pepper Schwartz helped them to navigate some of their struggles. The four of us will dig into the word “stranger,” and its complications. We all started this Married at First Sight process as strangers, but because the word means different things to different people, hearing it can be hurtful in two very different ways. We’ll also explore how things change once the cameras leave, and why it’s so important to have time to miss each other instead of being together all the time. Other topics we’ll explore include the role of the chase in relationships, how to turn the trust on, working through disagreements in a healthy and respectful way, the value of communication, diaper-changing duties, and much more! Jamie will also talk about her search for her father, and her experience with growing up without her dad. Today’s Guests: Shawniece on Instagram Jephte on Instagram Shawniece on Twitter Jephte on Twitter In This Episode: [02:03] - Doug and Jamie start things off with a message of appreciation for all the support. [05:26] - We learn about today’s guests, Shawniece and Jephte, and the similarities that they have with Jamie and Doug. [12:58] - Shawniece and Jephte have an inspiring story and they’ve been through a lot. [16:19] - Doug, Jamie, Shawniece, and Jephte chat about their similarities and the weirdness of getting married at first sight. [18:15] - When did Jephte and Shawniece consummate their marriage? Was it during the show? [20:01] - We hear about how Jephte and Shawniece’s journey went from the beginning, when Shawniece was instantly smitten. [24:22] - What advice did Dr. Pepper give Shawniece and Jephte that convinced them to tough it out rather than give up on their marriage? [27:48] - Jamie points out one of the hard things about Married at First Sight. [29:41] - Shawniece shares her perspective on the word “stranger,” which Jamie has just been talking about. [35:39] - We learn about why Shawniece and Jephte split while Shawniece was pregnant, and some of the issues that they had. [38:48] - How far along was Shawniece in her pregnancy when they went through their split? [42:30] - Jephte shares his thoughts on the experience of Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? ending, and how it was different from the end of Married at First Sight. [44:01] - Doug talks about the abrupt transition from being single to immediately being married, and the importance of having time to miss each other. [45:51] - What was Shawniece’s pregnancy like? [50:35] - Jephte and Shawniece talk more about their relationship dynamics, and the experience of the chase. [53:45] - Throughout their journey and even their separation, Shawniece has always trusted Jephte, she explains. [57:43] - Jephte talks about the difficulty of applying the experts’ advice in real-time once the show is over. [60:24] - Who changes more of baby Laura’s diapers? And who feeds her more? [64:44] - We hear more about Jephte and Shawniece’s day-to-day schedule and what their life looks like. [69:39] - Where can people find Jephte and Shawniece online to follow them or learn more about their journey? [72:10] - Jamie and Doug take a moment to express their admirat... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 30, 2019
Ep 5: Struggling With Loss (You’re Not Alone!)
We never planned on recording this episode, but you know how much it matters to us to be open and honest with you. We’ll never pretend that everything is perfect; we value you enough that we want to be vulnerable with you. Not long ago, we announced that we were pregnant. Jamie felt deep down that this was going to be a great pregnancy… until she started spotting. This can be totally normal for some women and some pregnancies, but Jamie had the exact same symptoms with our angel baby, Jonathan. Unfortunately, for us, the spotting indicated that there was a problem. If you haven’t heard, we had a (failed) miscarriage. We were so excited for this pregnancy, but part of us was guarded because we had lost a pregnancy before, even as we tried to stay positive. It’s amazing how hard it is to stay calm and stress-free while accepting that you can’t control whether your pregnancy has a successful outcome. Of course, this brings up a lot of complicated thoughts and emotions. We’re so happy for our friends who are due around the same time we were, but at the same time, it’s impossible to avoid feeling sorrow that we’re not going to be having a baby with them. Something we’re grateful for is that we went against the conventional wisdom of waiting to tell people about a pregnancy; how can they support you through your loss if you don’t tell them? On that note, we’re so grateful for the outpouring of love. Thank you for helping us to get through things. If you’re wondering what you should (and shouldn’t) say to someone who has suffered from a loss, don’t miss this episode. We’ll discuss some tips, and list some specific things you absolutely shouldn’t say (even if they’re true for us). For example, don’t ever say things like, “At least you know you can get pregnant,” “You weren’t that far along,” or “This miscarriage must be easier than the last one.” Things you can say include, “I’m thinking of you,” “This baby will never be forgotten,” “I’m so sorry for your loss,” and “I can’t imagine what you’re going through.” Even better is to sit and just listen! We don’t want you to ever feel alone. If you’ve suffered with fertility in any way, and you feel like there’s no one you can talk to about it, please reach out to us! So many of us go through these things, and no one should ever feel like they don’t have someone on their side. Finally, we’ll chat about Jamie’s book, Wifey 101! Tune into the episode to hear what it’s about and get a taste of what you’ll read when you buy it. (Plus you’ll learn how to get a signed copy!) Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram FabFitFun (our sponsor!) Use coupon code 40Jamie for a discount! Miracles in the Making ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 23, 2019
Ep 4: Pregnancy, Loss, and FertilityIQ
Today’s episode isn’t an easy one. We recorded this episode when we were at the end of the third trimester, but shortly after the conversation, we suffered a miscarriage (as you may have heard about). Even though we’re in a different space now, we still absolutely wanted to share this episode with you. A year and a half after we got married, we got pregnant with our son Jonathan. We were so excited, and publicly shared that we were pregnant with our first baby. Just a week later, we found out that the pregnancy wasn’t viable and we were going to end up losing our baby. Naturally we wanted to find a reason or an explanation, and a way to make sure it wouldn’t ever happen again. But the hard truth is that sometimes it’s just out of your control. In the first part of this episode, we’ll dig into that first pregnancy experience, including the aftermath, how we dealt with losing Jonathan, and why bunnies have become so important to us. We’ll then move onto talking with our guests, Deb and Jake from FertilityIQ. Their website helps people find a doctor who will be a good fit based on anonymous reviews. The two of them were fertility patients who got pregnant and had two miscarriages, and felt like no one could give them a straight answer about anything. Ending up with the wrong doctor was a waste of time and money, and they were frustrated with not being able to find the right information. Deb and Jake decided to do something about both of these problems! They started FertilityIQ to help people find the right doctor and to provide real data to help people make the right decisions. In our conversation, they’ll also talk about their own journey with infertility, including some of the things that they tried. No matter where you are along your fertility journey, this conversation should help you understand that you’re not alone and there are resources out there to help.   Today’s Guests: FertilityIQ FertilityIQ on Instagram FertilityIQ on Facebook FertilityIQ on Twitter Deborah Anderson-Bialis on LinkedIn Jake Anderson-Bialis on LinkedIn   In This Episode: [01:51] - Jamie and Doug welcome listeners to the episode, joke about a fourth episode anniversary, and mention today’s guests, before talking about their experience with their first pregnancy. [06:56] - A week after announcing their pregnancy, Jamie and Doug found that it wasn’t viable. They share details of the experience. [12:22] - Jamie and Doug describe the moment that they learned that their pregnancy wasn’t viable. [17:08] - We hear about the impact that Jonathan made on Jamie and Doug. [22:00] - It’s nice to be around positivity, Doug points out. [23:00] - Jamie introduces today’s guests, Deb and Jake from FertilityIQ, before we hear messages... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 16, 2019
Ep 3: Should Hubby Watch the Birth?
By now you probably know that Jamie is pregnant again! We’re so excited, and want to bring you along on our journey. That’s why today’s episode includes the audio from the exact moment that Doug learned about the pregnancy. We had just gotten back from Disney, and he was feeding Henley. As you’ll hear, his reaction wasn’t as excited as it could have been (and neither was Henley’s), but you get to share in the genuine, real reaction rather than a staged moment. Today’s amazing guests are the fantastic Erica Eckman from Everything Erica and her husband Dan, a real estate guru. She and I met on social media when she reached out on Instagram, and she’s honestly one of my best friends now. She and her husband are intelligent, down-to-earth, and just lovely people. If you’ve ever wondered about how Erica and Jamie met, this is the episode for you! You’ll learn that Erica took a chance and reached out, the two featured each other, and the friendship blossomed organically from there. As Erica points out, you never know what might happen if you just say “hi”! Erica is a fairly new mom, and the four of us will talk about the experiences of birth and parenthood. Of course having children is an amazing blessing, but there are definitely parts of the pregnancy, birth, and parenthood process that’s a struggle. There’s no shame in asking for help or not being able to do it all yourself. We’ll dig into all sorts of things, including how Erica’s birth process went, whether men look at women’s vaginas differently after watching them give birth, how long the recovery process takes, how much it hurts after birth (including a story involving peeing on a nurse), the issues that can be involved in breastfeeding, and much more. Today’s Guests: Erica Eckman on LinkedIn @everythingerica on Instagram @dansdadlife on Instagram Everything Erica In This Episode: [01:43] - Jamie and Doug chat about the podcast, and introduce today’s topic: Jamie’s pregnancy announcement to Doug! [05:32] - We hear the audio from when Jamie announced her pregnancy to Doug right after getting back from Disney. [10:08] - The reaction wasn’t as enthusiastic as it could have been, but at least it was genuine! [13:57] - Erica Eckman from Everything Erica and her husband Dan are today’s amazing guests. [16:57] - Jamie explains who Dan and Erica are for people who aren’t yet familiar with them. [18:10] - Erica shares the story of how she and Jamie initially met. [21:14] - Doug brings up the point of people surrounding themselves with people who they admire or look up to. [23:31] - Did Erica deliver her daughter vaginally or through a C-section? [28:35] - Since Jamie works in labor and delivery, she was interested in her birth process and even checked her own dilation. [29:38] - How painful is it after having a baby?! Erica shares a post-birth bathroom story about the pain of even peeing. [31:50] - Erica and Jamie chat about breastfeeding and Erica’s struggles with it. [36:02] - Is the common sense of shame over not breastfeeding self-imposed shame, or is it from external sources? [40:45] - Doug wonders whether there’s a good way to ask new mothers whether t... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 09, 2019
Ep 2: Moving, Marriage, and Pregnancy with Ashley and Anthony from "Married at First Sight"
Last week, on our first-ever episode of our new podcast, we shared an exciting announcement. If you didn’t hear it, we won’t keep you in suspense: we’re pregnant!! Doug’s first reaction was concern for our wonderful daughter Henley, but we quickly got super excited. After a couple stories about intimate moments gone very wrong, we’ll transition into talking about more important (and less, uh, personal) things: our two amazing guests today from our MAFS family! In case you’re not familiar with our story or the acronym, we met and got married on the same day on the first season of the show Married at First Sight.  Our guests, >Ashley Petta and Anthony D’Amico went through the same crazy experience in season 5, and it turned out wonderfully for them too! If you’ve ever doubted the idea of love at first sight, you need to watch their season. They’re still so in love, beautifully happy, and are super pregnant in their new house as we speak.  We’ll chat about the experience of moving while heavily pregnant, which is something we have in common. We’ll also dig into the topic of intimacy while pregnant, including suddenly-larger boobs that are off-limits (ouch!) and having sex while pregnant. We also share the stories of how we respectively revealed our babies’ genders.  You’ll learn that Anthony has special dream-powers, because he figured out his future wife’s first initial and his future baby’s gender through dreams. We then talk about baby names! We always knew we wanted to name our daughter Henley, but we don’t even have a boy’s name picked out. Ashley and Anthony aren’t ready to reveal their unborn daughter’s name yet, but they’ll share a name they aren’t using! Tune in to hear more about all of this! We’ll also talk about how long house-hunting took for them, whether they have experience with other infants in the family, taking advantage of pregnancy (and nursing), putting swings together, conceiving our babies, and more. Our daughter Henley will even make an appearance! Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Ashley Petta on Instagram Anthony D’Amico on Instagram White With Style (our sponsor!) Use coupon code Jamie28 for a huge discount! FabFitFun (our sponsor!) Use code 40Jamie to save 40% off your first box Married at First Sight: Happily Ever After? Erica Eckman on Instagram Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis on Amazon Wifey 101 (autographed copy) See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Jan 02, 2019
Ep. 1: Our Surprise Revealed
Doug and Jamie make their surprise announcement!  Jamie says,"Please don't judge me after hearing this".  Jamie is searching for her father.  Changes coming in Jamie's nursing career.  Plans for future episodes.  For full episode notes: Sponsors Burrow (Get $75 Off) FabFitFun (use code 40Jamie for 40% off) Jamie's Book Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis on Amazon Wifey 101 (autographed copy) See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 25, 2018
First of all, I think that maybe people don't know us, so we should give a little background on us, because we're a little crazy to start. It's been almost five years. We were on a little show that nobody knew about called "Married At First Sight." Doug: And I remember it perfectly, I was in my car, I was working for a water company at the time. And I got a voicemail saying, "Hey are you single? We're doing a show in the tri-state area. Give us a call back." Jamie: That's how you were asked to be on "Married At First Sight?" Doug: And I called back and I spoke to somebody and I said, "Yes, I'm single and okay I'll fill out a questionnaire." And I want to say it was maybe, what was it, three weeks later, I found out I was getting married and going on a honeymoon. Jamie: Yeah. And honestly, very much similar for me. I got a call and they said, "Do you have trouble dating in New York City?" And I was like, "Raise your right hand and your left hand if you could understand that."  So, long story short, we were married at first sight on season one, which is now a huge hit show on Lifetime. We also are so excited that we now have a daughter and it was not an easy path whatsoever- We really struggled a lot with pregnancy and getting pregnant and then ... Well actually the truth of the matter is, when I got pregnant with Henley, our daughter, the pregnancy was very easy. And it was almost so easy that it was scary because we had suffered at loss at 17 weeks and one day and so that's definitely mid-second trimester and it was just scary. Even before though, I think that where we're coming from, not many people have gone through what we went through. Being married at first sight. I mean, yes, there's arranged marriages but I mean, this was literally putting your fate and future in the hands of experts. And giving information about yourself and hoping that you know yourself enough to know what you want and getting married at first sight and marrying a stranger and taking that step which is nutty. It is crazy but it also made sense at the time. And it worked out. That being said, we are not experts but we've had this fast track tutorial on how to work on a marriage, what do to with a marriage, we've reached extreme lows, we've went through extreme highs, we have a child now and I think over five years, it's almost like we went through what most couples go through in maybe 10, 20. Jamie has a very unique background with her upbringing and environment, which is almost complete opposite to mine. And I think that not only do opposites attract but I think that we have very different perspectives on things. Sorry to share our weird truths. But you know what, we didn't become named the most awkward couple on TV for no good reason. But I genuinely am excited for this podcast because it's gonna give everyone a voice and we want to speak with you, we want to talk about what you talk about, we want to keep you in our lives. And I think that this is gonna be a fun journey. Yeah, we are so excited to get to know you guys more and be able to have another way to kinda communicate with you and keep in touch with you and hang out with you. So every week you'll be able to get a new episode from us so I think this is the third time we've tried to say goodbye, but clearly we love to talk. Yes, we love you guys so much and like we said before, give us anybody that you love and you want to hear from on our podcast that relates with parenting or marriage. We would love to bring them on and chat with them. So yeah, let us know and of course subscribe because Christmas Day we have a little gift for you. Visit us online at:  See for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Dec 25, 2018