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Garrett McQueen is a professional bassoonist turned arts activist. With the help of his friend Scott Blankenship, the two explore what it looks like when the so-called “classical” genre meets music, conversations, and cultures from outside of the concert hall.

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Opus 66 - 24%
Making music is the second most intimate thing that two people can do together. Garrett chats with Abe Hunter from the Lied Society about the intimacy of art song, and their upcoming collaboration of an audio-only broadcast that will include the premiere of a work written in honor of the late George Floyd. After the guys read their official statements following Garrett's termination from APM/MPR, Scott talks about some of his most intimate moments on stage, and they both explore music written in the spirit of freedom. ***A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS SUPPORTED GARRETT MCQUEEN DURING THIS VERY DIFFICULT TIME.*** Playlist: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Symphony No. 13 Arvo Pärt - "Fratres" Florence Price - Piano Concerto in One Movement Lars-Erik Larsson - Pastoral Suite Drake ft. Rick Ross - "Money in the Grave" Aretha Franklin - "Think" Beyoncé ft. Kendrick Lamar - "Freedom" Nicki Minaj - "Freedom" Beyoncé ft. Drake - "Mine" Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Overture to "The Marriage of Figaro" Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - "Sull'aria" from "The Marriage of Figaro" More: Marianne Combs Quits MPR News:​ The Lied Society: Remembering John Witherspoon: West Coast Fires Cause Some of the World's Most Polluted Skies: Steve Reich and White Complicity: Garrett McQueen Fired from American Public Media: American Composers Forum Town Hall on Racial Equity: Anthony Davis:
Sep 16, 2020
Opus 65 - Teaching Joy
Franklin Willis teaches elementary music in Nashville, but in his words, he's much more than a music teacher! He speaks with Garrett about teaching culture, teaching life skills, and teaching joy with hip-hop as the foundation. Scott continues to settle into old(er) age with "post-yacht rock", and with a new look! And Garrett responds to the allegation that white men and their music is being "erased" by diversity and equity initiatives. Playlist: The Mamas & The Papas - "California Dreamin'" James Thomson/Thomas Arne - "Rule, Britannia!" arr. Fergie - "The Star Spangled Banner" Glenn Miller - "In The Mood" Chloe Flower - "Flower Through Concrete" AAESPO - "Layers" Ray LaMontagne - "Strong Enough" Stealers Wheel - "Stuck In The Middle With You" John Denver - "Sunshine On My Shoulders" ​Tiwa Savage/Mr Eazi - "Keys To The Kingdom" ​arr. Franklin Willis - "Havana" More: Franklin Willis: American Composers Forum Events: Ex-Inmates To Become Fire Fighters: Beyoncé Donates On Her Birthday: Support the Musicians of the Knoxville Symphony Orchestra: Chloe Flower and Cardi B at the Grammys: "Rule, Britannia!" Will Be Sung on Last Night of the Proms: Joe Pera Talks With You: ​
Sep 09, 2020
Opus 64 - Traptivities
Tea Sierra's dedication to Blackness fueled their entry into orchestral music, their journey through earning an MIS in Urban Studies, and their decision to move up to Minnesota to continue the journey. Garrett and Tea talk about this, the importance of Trap Music, and why the "Wakanda industrial complex" won't save humanity. Scott honors the late Chadwick Boseman with a "then and now" look at Black Panther, and Garrett shares why he was taken off the air at his radio gig. Playlist: James Brown - "Get Up" (from Get On Up: The James Brown Story) Vijay Iyer - "Dig the Say" ​21 Savage, Offset, Metro Boomin' - "Ric Flair Drip" Ludwig Göransson - "The King's Sunset" Ray Charles - "Georgia On My Mind" T.I. - "Let's Get Away" ​Migos ft. Lil Uzi Vert - "Bad and Boujee" ​Jeff Midkiff - Mandolin Concerto More: Tea Sierra on Twitter: Chadwick Boseman's Howard University Commencement Address: Joe Budden Goes Rogue: Baltimore Symphony Guarantees Performances Through 2025: Knoxville Symphony Furlough: ​ In the Middle: Tea Sierra on Twitter: ​
Sep 02, 2020
Opus 63 - Jenny
Maya Stone believes that power comes from within - it's something that's grounded her over the course of her very dynamic music career. She chats with Garrett about this, her experiences as a bassoon professor in the world of collegiate academia, and her return home to New York. Scott honors Women's Equality Day by reflecting on the music of Sarah Vaughan, and Garrett gets honest about spiritual and emotional fatigue. Playlist: Monica - "Street Symphony" Sarah Vaughan - "They Can't Take That Away From Me" Jo Stafford/Charlie Harden Quartet West - "Haunted Heart" William C. Banfield - Symphony No. 6 Mark O'Connor - Strings and Threads Suite Celso Garrido-Lecca - "Danzas Populares Andinas No. 3" Nas - "Car #85" Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams" Antonin Dvorak - Symphony No. 9, mov. 3 "Goin' Home" More: Maya Stone: James Baldwin on Dick Cavett: @fodderyfodder on police corruption: @orchestraisracist on Paste Magazine: Meet Joseph Tolliver: Brandy vs. Monica: Marian Anderson: Classical Hosts' Top 10 Pieces: The Read Podcast:
Aug 26, 2020
Opus 62 - "Blue Shirt Girl"
Christine Gangelhoff challenges the Euro-centric nature of "classical" music by promoting the work of not only Black composers, but Afro-Caribbean composers. She joins Garrett to talk about her experiences as a teacher and performer in the Bahamas, and the album, Tour de Force. Scott shares some of the contemporary classical music that he thinks can help deal with the day to day of 2020, and Garrett recounts one of his own experiences dealing with racism while teaching in the Bahamas. This opus of TRILLOQUY is sponsored by The Lewis Prize for Music, announcing their 2nd annual Accelerator Awards. Applications are open until Friday, August 21st, with winning applicants receiving a multi-year prize of $500,000 beginning in January of 2021. For more information visit: Playlist: RUN DMC - "It's Tricky" Bobby Shmurda - "Hot N---a" Bob Marley - "Jammin" Heitor Villa Lobos - Guitar Concerto Mikhail Mikhaylovich Ippolitov-Ivanov - Caucasian Sketches Suite No. 1 Sufjan Stevens - "Year of the Tiger" Judd Greenstein - "Clearing, Dawn, Dance" C Force - Tour de Force More: Orchestra is Racist: 2 Men Charged In Long-Unsolved Killing Of Run-DMC's Jam Master Jay: Bobby Shmurda audition: Julian Bream passes away: Tour de Force: A Musical Journey of the Caribbean: ​
Aug 19, 2020
Opus 61 - Brown Skin Girl
Being Black is being a part of a very diverse community that exists both across time and around the globe. Garrett and Scott explore this idea with works by Beyoncé, William Grant Still, Victoria Monét, Cardi B/Megan Thee Stallion, and many others. Portia Dunkley shares her COVID-era experiences as a mother, teacher and business owner, and the guys talk about coping with current events/politics as "classical" music professionals. Playlist: Issam Rafea/Gao Hong - "Mother's Plea" Mary Kouyoumdjian - Bombs of Beirut Cardi B feat. Megan Thee Stallion - "WAP" Ludwig van Beethoven - Scherzo from Symphony No. 9 2 Live Crew - Pop That Pu--y Victoria Monet - "Touch Me" William Grant Still - Africa Beyoncé - "Water", "Brown Skin Girl" India Arie - "Brown Skin" More: Teeny Violini: Unsung America Fund: Philadelphia Orchestra rehearses in person for the first time since pandemic: Meet The Medical Professionals Playing Classical Music Together Online: Orchestras Are Totally Safe. Just Stay Away From the Flute Player: HUGE THANKS to Mary Kouyoumdjian for offering information on Lebanese artists. Find the full listing in the "EXTRAS" at
Aug 12, 2020
Opus 60 - Kalmyé
When Anthony McGill took two knees, "classical music" institutions everywhere stopped. He talks with Garrett and Scott about what inspired him to create #TakeTwoKnees, and offers his opinions on the discussion of the audition screen. Scott shares his growing relationship with the music of DaBaby, and Garrett reminisces, with the help of some 90s R&B. Playlist: Kanye West feat. Travis Scott - Wash Us In The Blood Brandy - Sittin' Up In My Room Benjamin Britten - Diversions on a Theme (Op. 21) Deux Filles - Oh How We Laughed DaBaby - Rock Star arr. Celestial - Weak (SWV) More: Black Music Matters Rally: Robert Komaniecki on Twitter: "Don't End Blind Auditions":​ On the late Leon Fleisher: Celestial on YouTube: The Joe Budden Podcast: ​
Aug 05, 2020
Opus 59 - "Manscaped"
Juan Pablo Contreras is a composer who unapologetically celebrates the sounds of Mexico in his music, and with the help of New Music USA, he'll be doing even more of it, with a commission from the Las Vegas Philharmonic. He talks with Garrett about writing with a Mexican sound, and how orchestras can do more to engage America's Spanish-speaking communities. Scott unpacks some of his latest feelings about growing older, and Garrett draws on a quote by Nicki Minaj to remind people to respect the work (and time) of Black creators. Playlist: It It - "Jath" John Williams - The Imperial March DaBaby - "Rock Star" (arr. Ezinma) Valerie Coleman - 7 O'clock Shout Florence Price - Child Asleep, Down a Southern Lane Kyle Gann - Going to Bed (Homage to Philip Glass) William Grant Still - Summerland Jose Pablo Moncayo - Huapango Arturo Marquez - Danzon No. 2 Juan Pablo Contreras - Mariachitlan, Silencio en Juarez More: Demarre McGill: Jeri Lynn Johnson/Black Pearl Chamber Orchestra: Katie Brown: Boulanger Initiative: Youth Orchestra Los Angeles: Lara Downes: New Music USA: Juan Pablo Contreras: "Commentary: In the Time of COVID-19, a Plea for Classical Music": Robert Komaniecki tweet:
Jul 29, 2020
Opus 58 - The Strength of a Facade
When the curtain or "screen" was introduced into the world of orchestral auditions, many hoped that this would result in more racially diverse orchestras. It hasn't yet proven to do so, but musicians like Adedeji Ogunfolu still swear by it. He tells Garrett why that is, and sheds light on how his challenges as a musician paved the way for another passion. Scott reacts to seeing "Django Unchained" for the first time, and Garrett reacts to the drama surrounding Nick Cannon. Episode Playlist: Jeff Scott - "Startin' Something'" Marga Richter - Concerto for Piano, Violas, Cellos, and Basses Traditional - "Steal Away" Florence Price - Piano Concerto in One Movement arr. String Queens - "Glory" Jim Croce - "I've Got a Name" Giuseppe Verdi - Dies Irae Rick Ross - 100 Black Coffins Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise Megan Thee Stallion - "Ratchet" More: Speaker Geeker Podcast: Composer or Kanye West?: Black Artists on How to Change Classical Music: To Make Orchestras More Diverse, End Blind Auditions: ​
Jul 22, 2020
Opus 57 - A Little Bit Country, A Little Bit Cancelled
"Cancel culture" has rocked the world of social media for a while now, but a man named Paul Robeson was once cancelled by the US government in real life! Garrett chats with Cesare Civetta about the often overlooked legacy of Mr. Robeson, and Scott tackles the cognitive dissonance of being an ally while maintaining a position of power. Garrett and Scott also continue their closer look at so-called "country" music. ​ Episode Playlist: Kanye West - "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" Lady A - "Doin' Fine" Keb' Mo' - "Every Morning" Charlie Pride - "Between You and Me" Dolly Parton - "Light of a Clear Blue Morning" Crystal Gayle - "Take Me Home" Giuseppe Verdi - "Salve, Allah" from Il Corsaro Pete Seeger - "Joe Hill" Traditional - "Goin' Home" Jerome Kern - "Ol Man River" More: TRILLOQUY in the Star Tribune: TRILLOQUY on 91Classical: "A Letter on Justice and Open Debate": Cesare Civetta's website:
Jul 15, 2020
Opus 56 - The Honorable Violinist
Did you know that Minister Louis Farrakhan is a violinist? After 42 years of focusing on his ministry, Mr. Farrakhan returned to the stage back in 1993, which marked the beginning of the all-Black Gateways Music Festival, and the continued conversations concerning his controversial persona. Garrett and Scott explore this with Amanda Cook from I Care If You Listen, and with Caroline Jones, who helped make that historic event possible. The guys also honor the late Ennio Morricone, and address listener feedback concerning "roots" music. Playlist: Ennio Morricone - Once Upon a Time in the West/The Hateful Eight; Judd Greenstein - "Change"; Felix Mendelssohn - Violin Concerto in e minor
Jul 08, 2020
Opus 55 - All American, All Black
All American music is Black music - even if people don't think so. Garrett and Scott explore this idea as it applies to the music of Shea Diamond, Megan Thee Stallion, Kane Brown, and many others. Titus Underwood, Principal Oboe of the Nashville Symphony, talks about Black enlightenment, his recent furlough, and the events that prevented his previous appearance on TRILLOQUY. Scott challenges an opinion by Sheku Kanneh-Mason, and Garrett lays out his frustrations with Grammophone and NPR Classical. Episode playlist: Shea Diamond, "American Pie", Modest Mussorgsky, "Night on Bald Mountain", Matthew Tyler, "Etude for Elijah McClain", Megan Thee Stallion, "Girls in the Hood", Eric Whitacre/Joby Burgess, "Sleep", Starbuck, "Moonlight Feels Right", Kane Brown, "Heaven"
Jul 01, 2020
Opus 54 - "My Ancestors' Wildest Dream"
Garrett and Scott wrap up Pride month with an opus featuring Marvell Terry, who brings an interesting conversation at the intersection of HIV awareness, music, and the Black queer experience. Rob Deemer offers a verbal response to recent critique, Scott reminds non-Black people to "read the room", and Garrett recalls his experiences exploring Black thought leaders of years past. ​Playlist: John Corigliano - Symphony No. 1 Lichens - "The Psychic Nature of Being" Shea Diamond - "American Pie"
Jun 24, 2020
Opus 53 - A Five Second Google Search
Sometimes organizations, individuals, and institutions get it right. Other times, they just get it...white. Garrett and Scott explore this idea as it applies to the Institute for Composer Diversity, the police, and more. Garrett chats with Stephanie Matthews about transitioning into pop music as a classically trained violinist, and Scott drags Zachary Woolfe. Playlist: Gustav Holst - Japanese Suite Nina Simone - "Ain't Got No/I Got Life" Mary J. Blige - "I'm Goin' Down" Rachel's - Music for Egon Schiele NWA - "Fuk Da Police"
Jun 17, 2020
BONUS - Extended Interview w/ Stephanie Matthews
As promised, here's Garrett's extended interview with the incomparable, Stephanie Matthews! Be sure to check out her work here at
Jun 17, 2020
Opus 52 - Birdcages, Brothels, and Some Hidden Treasure
Everyone knows the name Derek Chauvin at this point, but do you know about the Black piano player named Louis Chauvin? The guys explore the more nefarious side of his legacy, and his relationship with Scott Joplin. Scott (Blankenship) reacts to the idea of white tears being violent, and offers a challenge to white-led orchestras. In honor of Black Music Appreciation Month, Garrett chats with Alicia Waller about her latest album, "Some Hidden Treasure", and Garrett and Scott unpack "The Birdcage" in honor of Pride Month. Listen: "Some Hidden Treasure" - Alicia Waller and the Excursions "Heliotope Bouquet" - Louis Chauvin/Scott Joplin Watch: "The Birdcage" (dir. Mike Nichols) "Scott Joplin" (dir. Jeremy Kagan)
Jun 10, 2020
Opus 51 - Our Town
The season two premiere of TRILLOQUY features a conversation between the Garrett and Scott about the current unrest in the Twin Cities, and across the country. Garrett speaks with Chicago-based composer Adrian Dunn about Black ownership in classical music, and his relationship with a piece of music that everyone is listening to in light of George Floyd's murder. Playlist: Aaron Copland - Our Town Joel Thompson - Seven Last Words of the Unarmed Traditional - Soon Ah Will Be Done
Jun 04, 2020
Opus 50 - End of the Beginning
The season one finale of Trilloquy features a conversation between Garrett and Am're Ford, who works as a composer, educator and founding director of a nonprofit arts organization. Ford shares his perspective on music education and discusses what he’s learned from starting a summer arts program. Garrett and Scott also share some big news about the future of Trilloquy. ​Episode Playlist Naughty by Nature - "O.P.P." Steely Dan - "Black Cow" Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz - "Deja Vu" Drake - "Emotionless" J. Cole - "Middle Child"
Jun 03, 2020
Opus 49 - "High" Art
After fighting against classical music’s rigidly outdated practices as a music teacher, composer and euphoniumist John DelVento decided to take his talents into the world of commercial film and TV music. He chats with Garrett and Scott in this opus about what led to that shift, and he offers his advice for music educators seeking a relevant way to introduce new students to instrumental performance. In honor of 4/20, Garrett and Scott spend the prelude exploring the intersection of classical music and cannabis. Episode Playlist Sergei Lyapunov – ‘Hashish’ Symphony Hector Berlioz – ‘Symphonie Fantastique’ Hildegard von Bingen – ‘Alleluia’ Hugo Schmidt – ‘The Devil’s Tongue’
Jun 03, 2020
Opus 48 - Brown vs. Classical Music
This opus of Trilloquy features part two of a conversation with Maestro Brandon Keith Brown, who filed a racial discrimination suit after he was fired as Brown University’s music director back in 2017. Since then, he’s conducted orchestras in several countries, and he chats with Garrett about how racism in classical music isn’t just an American issue – it’s a global one. ​Episode Playlist Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart – Piano Concerto No. 10
Jun 03, 2020
Opus 47 - Brown vs. Brown
In 2017, Maestro Brandon Keith Brown was named music director at Brown University. A few weeks later, he was fired. The resulting racial discrimination suit that he filed in 2019 has opened up some interesting conversations in the world of classical music. In this opus, Brandon shares his side of the story with Garrett. Garrett and Scott open up this opus with a look at the ongoing impact of social distancing.
Jun 03, 2020
Opus 46 - A Little Less Beethoven
Orchestras are starting to program more works by women and composers of color, but today those performances are nearly outnumbered by the programming of works by a single composer: Beethoven. That's just one of the surprising statistics professor Rob Deemer has discovered through his work with the Institute for Composer Diversity. He joins Garrett and Scott in this opus to talk numbers and explore why orchestras may want to program “a little less Beethoven.” Playlist My Favorite Things (arr. John Coltrane)
Jun 02, 2020
Opus 45 - Privileged
According to musician and arts administrator Janis Lane-Ewart, the best way to keep the spirit of Women’s History Month alive year-round is by sparking a sense of curiosity about ALL the women in your life. In this opus, she chats with Garrett about her experiences in music to conclude Trilloquy’s look at Women’s History. Garrett and Scott also offer a few of their Women’s History Month stand-outs, and they conclude the opus with a Janis-dedicated performance by pianist Lara Downes. ​ Episode Playlist Amanda Röntgen-Maier - Violin Concerto Kate Moore & Ashley Bathgate - Stories for Ocean Shells Amina Claudine Myers - African Blues Dinah Washington - What a Difference a Day Makes Florence Price - First Romance
Jun 02, 2020
Opus 44 - Sex, Drugs, and Social Distancing
The COVID-19 pandemic has already had a huge impact on the financial wellness of musicians. In this opus, Garrett and Scott share ways that you can support artists during the crisis. This opus also features a conversation with Blair Tindall, author of Mozart in the Jungle, and a peek into the new album by Singapore-based bassoonist Jo Anne Sukumaran! ​ ​Episode Playlist Modest Mussorgsky - “Tuileries (Children's Quarrel after Games)” from Pictures at an Exhibition Jo Anne Sukumaran - The Night Garden
Jun 02, 2020
Opus 43 - Metal!
Being one of the few black woman conductors in the world isn’t the only thing that sets Kalena Bovell apart. In this opus, she chats with Garrett and Scott about her journey to the podium and her deep admiration for metal! To frame the conversation, Garrett and Scott draw connections between rock and classical, and they shout out the black woman who codified the sound of rock ’n’ roll guitar: Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Episode Playlist Ludwig van Beethoven – Piano Sonata No. 14 “Moonlight” (arr. Tina Setkic) Metallica – “Nothing Else Matters” (arr. Soren Madsen) Evanescence – “Lacrymosa” (after Mozart)
Jun 02, 2020
Opus 42 - (Still) Classically Black
In February 2019, Garrett recorded his very first Trilloquy conversation with Katie Brown and Dalanie Harris, hosts of the “Classically Black” podcast. The two return in this opus to chat with Garrett and Scott about the benefits and challenges of hosting a classical music podcast, and they offer their perspectives on real solutions to classical music’s lack of diversity. ​Episode Playlist Dobrinka Tabakova – Concerto for Cello and Strings Jessie Montgomery – Starburst Anna S. Thorvaldsdóttir – Metacosmos Jean Sibelius – Symphony No. 1 Nils Boltman – Troubadour Blue DaBaby – “Shut Up” (arr. Michael Matas)
Jun 02, 2020
Opus 41 - Off the Page
Garrett and Scott wrap up Black History Month with improvisatory composer Davu Seru, who joins them for an in-depth conversation on black history, community, literature, gardening, and music! Seru and deVon Russell Gray share a live improvisation at the end of this opus. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott respond to listener requests by revisiting a previous conversation regarding The American Rhapsody. ​ Episode Playlist Samuel Coleridge-Taylor – African Dance No. 1
Jun 01, 2020
Opus 40 - Mother King
Composer Dameun Strange’s Mother King tells the story of Alberta Williams King, who was murdered in her church six years after the assassination of her son, Martin Luther King Jr. In this opus, Dameun sits with Garrett to discuss his background in community activism and the origins of his opera. deVon Russell Gray and Sarah M. Greer conclude the opus with a performance of Dameun’s composition Dream Variations. ​ Episode Playlist George Frideric Handel – “And He Shall Purify” (from Messiah)
Jun 01, 2020
Opus 39 - Close Enough for Jazz
How do you define jazz? Should it sit side-by-side with “classical” music in the concert hall? At what point does the act of incorporating elements of jazz become cultural appropriation? In this opus, Garrett and Scott explore these questions and discuss jazz’s connection to black music and Black History Month. The two also recap their recent trip to Detroit for the 5th annual SphinxConnect conference, billed as the “epicenter for artists and leaders in diversity.” Garrett and Scott send “get well soon” vibes to Janis Lane-Ewart, who has been rescheduled to a future opus of Trilloquy due to illness. Episode Playlist Samuel Barber – Summer Music Darius Milhaud - La Création du monde Leonard Bernstein – Symphonic Dances from West Side Story: VII. Fugue ('Cool') Duke Ellington – Black, Brown, and Beige Nina Simone – “Love Me or Leave Me,” “Black Is the Color of My True Love’s Hair,” “Mississippi Goddam,” “Strange Fruit” Jessie Montgomery – Coincident Dances Michael Abels – Winged Creatures Ludwig van Beethoven – Symphony No. 5 DaBaby – “Bop” Joel Thompson – Seven Last Words of the Unarmed Astor Piazzolla - “Fuga y Misterio”
Jun 01, 2020
Opus 38 - Requiem for Zula
In 2019, PaviElle French decided to engage both her native Saint Paul community and her hometown orchestra by writing her first “classical” composition. The result was a touching ode to her mother called A Requiem for Zula. At its premiere, Garrett noticed something very interesting – the audience was more diverse than he’d ever seen! In this opus, Garrett and Scott kick off Black History Month in a chat with PaviElle about how this performance served as a catalyst to strengthen the relationship between Saint Paul’s communities of color and the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra. The three also go into the impact her mother made on her as a musician and what it means to find freedom as a creative artist. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott introduce the question they’ve planned to ask each February guest, and Garrett addresses one organization’s discomfort with his life philosophy. Episode Playlist Prince (arr. Stringspace Quartet) – “When Doves Cry” Gary Clark Jr. – “This Land”
Jun 01, 2020
Opus 37 - Back Stage at Orchestra Hall
In response to criticism from attendees at a concert in late 2019, the Minnesota Orchestra took another look at its engagement with audiences of color. Garrett, who was very vocal about this infamous performance, addresses his concerns with Sam Bergman, a violist and 20-year member of the orchestra. In this opus, Sam discusses his journey as a musician, shares his social media strategy, and gives an inside look at the audition process at one of the nation’s great orchestras. In the prelude, Garrett tells Scott about his own journey into a professional orchestra, and the two briefly discuss the implications of taking on a non-leadership role in the arts. The opus concludes with Sam’s performance of In Teaching Others We Teach Ourselves by composer Judd Greenstein. Episode Playlist Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart – Overture to The Marriage of Figaro Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - “Der Hölle Rache” (from The Magic Flute) Judd Greenstein – Change Judd Greenstein – In Teaching Others We Teach Ourselves
Jun 01, 2020
Opus 36 - Pivot Point
Will Van De Crommert isn’t just a composer – he composes specifically for film, television, web, and advertising! In this opus, Will chats with Garrett and Scott about what it means to be a commercial composer and potential pivot points for making classical music programming align closer with the sounds he creates for a living. Will is joined in the conversation by cellist Vela Farquharson, who offers her unique perspective as a commercial music performer. The opus concludes with a sneak-peek into the score that Will composed for the upcoming web series “Quinn’s Place.” In the prelude, Garrett and Scott recount some of their favorite film scores and shout-out the very first film score!
May 31, 2020
Opus 35 - The Orange Juice Concerto
In summer 2019, classical-guitarist-turned-radio-personality Melissa Dundis moved from her hometown of Omaha, Neb., to join the classical team at American Public Media! She’s experienced a lot since coming to the Twin Cities, and in this opus Garrett and Scott invite her to Studio B for a laid-back chat about those experiences and her new role. The three also cover their personal philosophies on classical music programming and what it means to “sound” like a classical radio DJ, and they each read a bit of listener feedback. Garrett and Melissa close out this opus with a performance of a piece for flute and guitar by Afro-Brazilian composer, Celso Machado.
May 31, 2020
Opus 34 - The ÆPEX of Diversity
It’s becoming much more common to hear classical music written by women and people of color. Yet, there’s still a disconnect between the growing popularity of this music and its presence in academic curricula. Garrett Schumann is on a mission to change this. The award-winning composer, music theorist, and arts administrator runs the ÆPEX Contemporary Performance project, a concert series and online anthology that serves as a resource for institutions looking to explore diversity – historical and contemporary – within classical music. In this opus, Garrett (McQueen) and Scott chat with Schumann about his life as a composer and music theorist, his views on performance rights management organizations, heavy metal in the classroom, and much more! In the prelude, Garrett and Scott explore how the holes in their formal education have impacted their professional lives. Episode Playlist Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges – Violin Concerto Clarence Cameron White – Levee Dance
May 31, 2020
Opus 33 - New Year, Same Pod
What was your favorite opus of Trilloquy in 2019? In the first opus of the new year, Garrett and Scott chat about their favorite Trilloquy moments from the past year and highlight what they’re looking forward to in 2020. In addition to recapping the first year of Trilloquy, the guys recount some of their other favorite moments and achievements from 2019, and they premiere the show’s new musical theme! Happy New Year! Episode Playlist Leonard Bernstein - Overture to Candide Joaquin Rodrigo - Concierto de Aranjuez Aretha Franklin - “(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman” Ric Ocasek - “Moving in Stereo” Jessye Norman - “Joy, Joy to My Soul” Julius Eastman - Evil N-----
May 31, 2020
Opus 32 - "Black Christmas"
Kwanzaa is a holiday that you’ve probably heard of, but do you know much else about it? There’s one very important thing you should know: it’s everything BUT a ‘Black Christmas.’ In this special holiday opus, Garrett and Scott explore Kwanzaa by reviewing its guiding principles and applying them to their lives, classical music, and other types of music along the way. The two also talk about Christmas in relation to black traditions and black culture. Special shout-out to JaJaime from one of Saint Paul’s local grocery co-ops for gifting Garrett his first kinara. ​ Episode Playlist Astor Piazzolla – “Libertango” Margaret Bonds – “The Ballad of the Brown King” Duke Ellington – “Three Black Kings” Valerie Coleman – “Umoja” Queen Latifah – “U.N.I.T.Y.” Maxi Priest feat. Shaggy – “That Girl” Florence Price – Piano Concerto in One Movement William Grant Still – Sunday Symphony Nina Simone – “Go To Hell” Nathaniel Dett – Magnolia Suite Sean O’Loughlin – Imani
May 31, 2020
Opus 31 - Sing. Perform. Affirm. Empower.
What does inclusion look like in a women’s choir? The directors of Twin Cities-based Her Voice Productions discuss their efforts to affirm and empower the diverse voices of women through choral performance. In this opus, executive director Elisa Olson and artistic directors Janice Hunton and Randi Grundahl Rexroth explore the inherently political nature of their work. Garrett and Scott recount their respective relationships with choral music and Christmas in the prelude. This opus concludes with two performances by Her Voice Productions’ Encore ensemble! ​ Episode Playlist John Williams – “Somewhere in My Memory” John Williams – “Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas” Ferrante & Teicher – “Sleigh Ride” Traditional – “Carol of the Bells” Bryn Terfel – “O Holy Night” Kanye West – “Diamonds from Sierra Leone” Kanye West – “Selah” Kanye West – “Christmas in Harlem”
May 31, 2020
Opus 30 - Cops, Cats, Conductors
There’s a lot that Garrett misses from his days as an orchestral musician, but one thing he doesn’t miss is dealing with conductors! Over time, he’s managed to meet a few conductors that he gets along with, including Maestro Joshua Weilerstein. In this opus, Garrett chats with Josh about his rise to fame as a conductor, his techniques for being more useful as a leader, and the challenges of programming new music for European orchestras. In the prelude, Garrett tells Scott about his complicated relationship with two other “C’s” – cats and cops. ​ Episode Playlist Leroy Anderson – “The Waltzing Cat” Gioachino Rossini – “The Cat Duet” Aaron Copland – “I Bought Me a Cat” Joel Thompson – “Seven Last Words of the Unarmed”
May 31, 2020
Opus 29 - Good Ole Day
In a world of string quartets, symphonies and sonatas, the art of songwriting maintains its status as one of the most important modes of musical expression. In this opus, Garrett and Scott chat with Kashimana Ahua ⁠— a singer-songwriter, composer, producer, lyricist and artist from West Africa who found a new home ⁠— and so much more ⁠— after moving to Minnesota. In the prelude, the guys recall some of their favorite songs and briefly discuss a work that was originally titled “The N----- Quartet.” This opus concludes with a performance of an original song by Kashimana that was inspired by prompts written by the hosts. ​ Episode Playlist Antonin Dvorak - String Quartet No. 12 ”American” Modest Mussorgsky - ”Bydlo” from Pictures at an Exhibition Charles Ives - ”The Cage” Government Mule - ”Going Out West” The Fugees - ”Killing Me Softly” LP - “Lost On You”
May 30, 2020
Opus 28 - On the Res
Aside from family, friends and food, Thanksgiving is a time of year some find a little challenging due to the way it has perpetuated a false narrative concerning Indigenous communities and European colonizers. In this opus, Garrett and Scott chat with George Maurer on this subject. He’s a world-traveling composer who has made authentic connections with communities everywhere, including some of North America’s Indigenous reservations. In the prelude, the hosts talk about their relationships with Thanksgiving, some of the music they associate with this time of year, and a Pulitzer Prize-winning composition that provoked an Inuit musician to call foul. Episode Playlist Mark O'Connor – Johnny Appleseed Suite Bing Crosby – “I’ve Got Plenty to Be Thankful For” Kanye West – “Say You Will” Tanya Tagaq on Inuit Throat Singing Caroline Shaw – Partita
May 29, 2020
Opus 27 - Use Your "Voice"
Music therapy is a corner of classical music that most people don’t know much about, yet it’s a field that’s an essential part of countless lives! In this opus, Garrett and Scott chat with music therapists Claire Klein and Lyndie Walker, who specialize in childhood development and hospice care. The conversation even touches on the importance of diversity and cultural competency in music therapy. In the prelude, Scott honors his late friend Bob Christiansen, whose career as a radio host spanned 51 years. Episode Playlist Georges Bizet – “La Fleur Que Tu M'avais Jetee” (from Carmen) Alexander Borodin - In the Steppes of Central Asia Franz Joseph Haydn – “Farewell” Symphony Lil Nas X – “Old Town Road”
May 28, 2020
Opus 26 - It's Time to Let Classical Music Die
In June 2019, the classical music world was rattled by an article titled “It’s Time To Let Classical Music Die.” What Nebal Maysaud didn’t know when they wrote it was that they would start an internet movement! In this opus, Scott and Garrett chat with Nebal about this article, some of their other writings and compositions, and the implications of sustaining Western classical music as a “superior” art form. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott honor the recently deceased actor and comedian John Witherspoon, and they tease the upcoming Trilloquy Performance Series! Episode Playlist Christopher-Joel Carter (arr.) – “What Becomes of the Brokenhearted” Abdel Halim Hafez عبد الحليم حافظ – “Khosara” خساره Jay Z – “Big Pimpin’” Nebal Maysaud – “Colonized Arabesques” Umm Kulthum ام كلثوم – “Alf Leila We Leila” الف ليلة وليله
May 27, 2020
Opus 25 - The Space Between
As far as western audiences are concerned, there are only eight notes in a scale. But, elsewhere in the world, the space between those notes represent some of the most important aspects of music! In this opus, Garrett and Scott explore “the space between,” musically and otherwise, with Indian classical artists Nirmala Rajasekar and Thanjavur K. Murugaboopathi. The four chat about the similarities and differences between western and Indian classical music, and they explore how a physical or emotional feeling can manifest musically! This opus also includes a live, in-studio performance by Nirmala and Boopathi, and the hosts conclude by sharing the gifts they received from this week’s guests.
May 26, 2020
Opus 24 - The TRILLOQUY Spooktacular!
In this special opus, Garrett and Scott celebrate the spookiest time of year with two original stories. The first story was inspired by the tradition of one-handed piano works, and the second was inspired by the life of composer and pianist Florence Price, whose family "escaped" to the north. Both stories feature the voice talent of previous Trilloquy guest Meghann Oglesby. The guys also revisit a few Halloween standards from the classical music repertoire and share some of their other Halloween favorites. Episode Playlist: ​ Tomaso Albinoni – Adagio for Violin, Strings, and Organ Bernard Herrmann – “Psycho Suite” Edvard Grieg – "In the Hall of the Mountain King" Charles Gounod – “Funeral March of a Marionette” Hector Berlioz – “Symphonie Fantastique” Camille Saint-Saens – “Dance Macabre “ Aram Khachaturian – Waltz from the “Masquerade Suite” Maurice Ravel – “Piano Concerto for the Left Hand” Johann Sebastian Bach – Chaconne from Partita No. 2 in D minor Ludwig van Beethoven – Piano Sonata No. 14 "Moonlight" Franz Liszt – “Totentanz” Traditional – “Wade in the Water” / ”City Called Heaven”
May 25, 2020
Opus 23 - What If God Is Unhappy?
Among the many things Garrett and Scott have in common is their discomfort with organized religion. But, as part of an effort to explore every corner of classic styles of music, the two attended a service at Minnesota’s oldest black congregation: Pilgrim Baptist Church. Garrett met Pilgrim Baptist’s music director, Jacob Dodd, while playing with the Illharmonic Orchestra. In this opus, Garrett and Scott chat with Jacob about life as a church musician, his journey back home after attending a historically black college, and ideas on how churches can offer a more welcoming experience. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott review the movie Joker. ​Playlist: ​ Thee Phantom and the Illharmonic Orchestra – “Double Trouble” / ”Jackin’ for Keys” Christopher Brinson – “What if God is Unhappy” Josephine Poelinitz (arr.) – “A City Called Heaven”
May 24, 2020
In the summer of 2019, Garrett and Scott recorded Trilloquy in a live event hosted by American Public Media's Legacy Society. This event served as a celebration of the 200th anniversary of composer Clara Schumann. Listen as they explore the life and legacy of Schumann as a musician, muse and mother. Guests include violinist Sofia Schutte, pianist Ines Guanchez, national classical music host Melissa Dundis and Performance Today producer Meghann Oglesby.
May 23, 2020
Opus 21 - The Black Employee Meeting
With more than 1 million daily listeners on more than 230 public radio stations, Performance Today is the most listened-to classical music radio program in the nation. In this opus, producer Meghann Oglesby chats with Garrett about her journey to this important position and how she adds a unique touch to Performance Today as a woman of color and a mother. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott talk about their recent trip to Minnesota’s North Shore, and the two offer a special dedication to opera singer Jessye Norman.
May 22, 2020
Opus 20 - What is "classical" music?
The phrase “classical music” will always be attached to the works of Beethoven, Brahms and Mozart, but what if that phrase was connected to other “classic” styles and artists? Earlier this year, Garrett visited the Jennings School in St. Paul, Minn., with that exact question, and the students were more than happy to share their ideas. In this opus, Garrett and Scott unpack what a few of those students had to say about what they consider music that’s a “classical” part of their experiences – from works by Brahms and Verdi, all the way to Tupac and Beyonce. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott talk about music that’s classic to their experiences, and they share examples of how the power of “classical” music enriches their lives.
May 21, 2020
Opus 19 - WUOT
Melony Dodson is much more than just a local public radio host – she’s a Knoxville institution. For the past decade, she’s enriched the lives of listeners in eastern Tennessee with music that bends genres and stretches across time. Lately, she’s shifted her focus to music written and performed by women. In this opus, Garrett speaks with his former colleague about her programming choices, gender equity in classical music, and how women and men can be allies in this type of work. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott discuss their relationship with the #MeToo movement. The episode ends with a jingle that Melony and Garrett performed live, on-air, during a WUOT Member Drive.
May 20, 2020
Opus 18 - West Meets East
Being a member of the all-black Gateways Music Festival Orchestra is an incredible experience for musicians who never play with people who look like them, but the fusion of classical music and the black experience is all Jennifer Arnold knew growing up. In this opus, Garrett chats with Jen about her classically black upbringing, and her recent decision to leave the Oregon Symphony for an arts administration position in Virginia. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott recount their recent visit to a Bavarian-style beer hall, and Scott previews the next episode of his show, Hop Notes.
May 19, 2020
Opus 17 - The Read
In February of 2019, 19-year-old Cameren Williams pitched her book, Kinderlute, to a team of investors at the Sphinx Conference. She didn't win the top prize, but she did catch Garrett's attention, who hosted the event. In this opus, Garrett talks to Cameren about her book, the process of preparing for a pitch presentation, and life at the Juilliard School of Music. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott chat about their standouts in Bob Watt's book, Black Horn, and Garrett talks about his time at his first Tyler, the Creator, concert.
May 18, 2020
Opus 16 - A Word from the President
The American Composers Forum was founded in 1973, with the goal of making composers, and the music they create, a vibrant and integral part of human culture. These days, the ACF is working to broaden the way it defines “composer.” In this opus, Garrett and Scott talk with Vanessa Rose, the ACF’s president and CEO, about how the organization can play a role in the larger conversations surrounding diversity and inclusion. The three also tackle the subject of gender vs. racial equity, and preview an upcoming forum hosted by the ACF on the topic of diversity among composers and writers of creative music. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott talk about their visit to the Minnesota State Fair, and Scott reveals why he envies aspects of black history and culture.
May 17, 2020
Opus 15 - Lady Jess and Queen Bey
Performing alongside Beyonce is just one of the many accolades Jessica McJunkins is proud of. The full-time freelancer/contractor has collaborated with many stars in the pop music industry. She speaks with Garrett about the challenges of traversing this corner of the violin world. Jessica compares the all-black Gateways Music Festival to Beyonce’s all-black Coachella performance, and she explains why “Queen Bey” serves the next generation of classical musicians by putting string players on the main stage. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott talk about Jay-Z’s deal with the NFL, and they respond to a listener who questions Scott’s involvement with Trilloquy.
May 16, 2020
Opus 14 - Go Go No No
The physical and cultural colonization of the land now called America has only continued since the first Europeans arrived, and Quanice Floyd has dedicated her career to quelling it. The music-teacher-turned-arts-administrator explores this topic with Garrett, drawing connections between the destruction of indigenous communities to the violent gentrification plaguing communities of color today. She also talks about integrating musical styles like ‘Go-Go’ into her classroom, and how it got her into hot water. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott recount their relationships with indigenous education, and Garrett addresses his latest social media drama.
May 15, 2020
Opus 13 - A Different Stage
As oboist David Norville enters his final year as a student at the New England Conservatory, there’s one thing he knows for sure – he doesn’t want to become a professional oboist. In this opus, he speaks to Garrett about why he wants to occupy a different sort of stage and the systemic issues that led him to this discovery. The two also chat about a few of their musical and nonmusical heroes, including a mentor they have in common. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott apply the remake of Disney’s “The Lion King” to their personal lives and how some of those stories apply to their family and social relationships.
May 14, 2020
Opus 12 - DeVon's Rondo
Composer deVon Russell Gray (dVRG) doesn't believe in classifying music by genre, and his catalog proves it. In this rondo-styled episode, Scott talks with Gray about his appointment as composer-in-residence with Minnesota's Schubert Club, how his music addresses racial tensions in his native St. Paul and how he plans to combat what he describes as "outdated programming." Garrett and Scott also unpack some of Gray’s non-musical responses, including the relationship between black communities and law enforcement, and the differences between equality and equity..
May 13, 2020
Opus 11 - Moving Through Gateways
Classical music is filled with diversity initiatives, but the Gateways Music Festival is not one of them. Every other year, musicians of African descent convene in Rochester, N.Y., to serve a love of classical music where it meets a love for blackness within the art form. The festival is run by Chicago-born pianist, educator and advocate Lee Koonce, who strongly believes that “black people have been involved in classical music since there’s been something called classical music.” Garrett chats with him about the festival, including some of the history of the relationship between race and classical music. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott touch on the topic of “cancel culture” and shout out a few black musicians of centuries passed.
May 12, 2020
Opus 10 - A través de la frontera...
Alex Rosales Garcia lived as an undocumented immigrant in California until 2005. Today, he’s a full-fledged U.S. citizen. In addition to performing as a member of the Las Vegas Philharmonic, he teaches the next generation of Mexican-American musicians in Southern California. In this opus, Garrett chats with Alex about his illegal border crossing and how his Mexican heritage serves as an advantage in his career as a teacher and performer. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott talk about some of their cross-country moves and the importance of friendship along the way.
May 11, 2020
Opus 9 - Old White Guy Realm
Although many people understand that classical music comes from more places than western Europe, the stigma still exists, and it must be challenged. In this opus, Garrett chats with Katy Henriksen, who does her part in fighting that stigma as a classical radio host at KUAF-FM in Arkansas. She offers a peek into her programming techniques, and also offers a look into the culture of the northwest part of her state. In the prelude, Garrett and Scott rehash their recent vacations, and discuss a poignant article that calls for the death of classical music.
May 10, 2020
Opus 8 - B-Boy Meets Beethoven
When a young Jeffrey McNeill discovered that the Beastie Boys’ “Paul Revere” fit perfectly with the opening movement of Beethoven’s 5th, he discovered what would eventually become his life’s passion. Now fully grown, Jeffrey, aka Thee Phantom, and his wife, Andrea, aka The Phoenix, lead Illharmonic, an ensemble that fuses classical music with classic hip-hop. Garrett explores why this concept is important to them, and how it informs music lovers on both the hip-hop and classical music sides of the aisle. Garrett and Scott touch on their relationships with social media in the prelude, and the opus concludes with an Illharmonic performance.
May 09, 2020
Opus 7 - Money over Music
Are you a sellout for choosing money over a career in the arts? In this episode, Garrett has this conversation with Peter Colin, a New York City-based trombonist and music teacher turned lawyer. As an introduction, Garrett and Scott explore their respective relationships with the topic of money vs. music.
May 08, 2020
Opus 6 - Pride in Prejudice
In this edition of Trilloquy, Garrett and Scott talk about what Pride Month means to them. Garrett also chats with Johnathan Gibbs, who is a member of the New York City Gay Mens’ Chorus. The two discuss Johnathan’s move to New York, and how a chorus for gay men, exclusively, lacks inclusion and representation.
May 07, 2020
Opus 5 - Juneteenth
This episode of Trilloquy features an in-depth conversation between Garrett and Scott about Juneteenth. After a refresher on what Juneteenth is, the two explore their connections with American slavery, its reverberating effects on U.S. culture, and the importance of black awareness in and outside of classical music.
May 06, 2020
Opus 4 - Allied
This episode of Trilloquy features the final interview Garrett conducted at the 2019 Sphinx Conference. He speaks with Performance Today producer Kathleen Bradbury about what it means to be an ally to people of color in classical music as a white woman. Garrett and Scott set the stage for this conversation by sharing their thoughts on what it means to be an ally, as well as exploring the idea of intersectionality.
May 05, 2020
Opus 3 - COLLABORATE and Listen
Mental health is a topic everyone is paying more attention to these days. In Opus 3 of Trilloquy, Garrett and Scott talk about their relationships with mental health awareness and how working in radio can have a huge impact on it. Garrett also shares the second interview he captured at the 2019 Sphinx Conference, featuring collaborative pianist Brandon Coffer. Don't call him an accompanist!
May 04, 2020
Opus 2 - Classically Black
Katie Brown and Dalanie Harris became friends while attending the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, N.Y. The experiences they share as black women in classical music led them to creating their own podcast, Classically Black. In this episode, Garrett and Scott talk about some of the challenges they've experienced in conversations surrounding race, followed by an interview that Garrett conducted with Katie and Dalanie in February at the Sphinx Conference in Detroit.
May 03, 2020
Opus 1 - The Only One
Why is representation in classical music important? What does it feel like for black millennials in the concert hall? How is the music experience unique at historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs)? Garrett and Scott explore those topics, and more, before hearing from Marion Dooley, who reached out to Garrett after seeing him perform with the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra. Marion shares his perspectives, and offers insight into a world he thinks more people should know about.
May 02, 2020
The Overture to TRILLOQUY
A brief introduction to a new podcast called TRILLOQUY!
May 01, 2020