TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up

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Episode 109: Brian Anderson
Happy Thanksgiving! This is a crazy year, so we hope everybody is able to be safe, relax, and enjoy it as much as possible. If you're looking for something to watch, TNT will be airing The Match: Champions for Change on Friday, November 27th at 3pm eastern. Turner Sports' Brian Anderson joins Randy to talk about the Match, what viewers can expect, what's new from previous iterations, and more. Additionally, Randy asks Brian about his experience in the NBA's bubble, the challenges of broadcasting live sports in a COVID-safe manner, and if Phil has a future in broadcasting. Enjoy!
Nov 23, 2020
Episode 108: Sea Island

No Masters hangover here. The Tour heads to coastal Georgia so Tron and Randy get Panther Mike on the phone to talk all things Sea Island. Who is Panther Mike? Why does he always get shoutouts on NLU content? Great questions, ones that gets answered within the episode. Also, you may learn a thing or two about the jewel of the Golden Isles. Enjoy!

Nov 18, 2020
Episode 107: Augusta
Masters week so we're talking Augusta, Georgia! Joining Tron and Randy to discuss his home town is the man affectionately known as McSchvantz on our message board, The Refuge. A native of Augusta, McSchvantz gives us his perspective on the city, including what it was like every April when the tournament rolled around. We ask him about the Savannah River Site, Augusta's rivalry with Aiken, the Pro Disc Golf Scene, and much more. Enjoy!
Nov 11, 2020
Episode 106: H-Town
Our Houston guest is ESPN's Bomani Jones. Bomani spent a large chunk of his childhood in Houston and talks about what that was like. He compares Houston to other places he's lived and what makes it unique. Also, Randy asks about his background in Economics, teaching college, and they get into some basketball-related subjects, specifically around James Harden. Fun fact too, Bomani blocked Tron on twitter years ago--we read the tweet and ask him if he'll reconsider. Check out Bomani's podcast, 'The Right Time with Bomani Jones', as well as across a number of ESPN platforms. Enjoy!
Nov 04, 2020
Episode 105: A Conversation with Wright Thompson
Tron and Randy are joined by bestselling author and senior writer at ESPN, Wright Thompson. Wright discusses his new book, "Pappyland: A Story of Family, Fine Bourbon, and the Things that Last" which drops November 10th. In addition to discussing the new book, the guys get into a wide variety of topics about the craft of writing, Wright's path into sports journalism, and life in general. Check out his new book and enjoy our conversation! 
Oct 26, 2020
Episode 104: Southern California
Sunny SoCal! TC and Randy welcome Travis Rodgers on this week. Travis currently works for ESPN 710 in LA. Prior to that he had his own show, Travis Rodgers NOW, and prior to that was a producer on the Jim Rome Show for nearly 15 years. Travis grew up in the greater Los Angeles area before attending UC Santa Barbara on a baseball scholarship. It's a humungous treat to talk to somebody who played such a large role in something (the Jim Rome Show) so important to us. Enjoy!
Oct 21, 2020
Episode 103: Sin City
Vegas, baby! Tron and Randy do a bit of catching up before speaking with the Desert Duffer (that's an alias), friend of the program and Las Vegas resident. The Duffer shares what he knows about the city, including how to get the good bourbon at casinos, what restaurants to visit, and how not to get soaked if you want to play some golf. Enjoy!
Oct 14, 2020
Episode 102: LIVE from The Donnybrook at Pinehurst

The Donnybrook, NLU's second annual event from Pinehurst Resort, was last weekend. As part of the festivities, DJ, Neil and Randy recorded a live podcast from the veranda outside The Deuce overlooking the 18th hole of Pinehurst #2. Neil talks about his karmic road rage incident on the drive down, the Strapped boys compete in a Newlywed game, and the group answers a few questions from listeners. As always, we had a wonderful time at Pinehurst and thank them for their hospitality. Enjoy!

Oct 12, 2020
Episode 101: The Magnolia State
We're back! After a short hiatus, Randy and TC are back to preview the Sanderson Farms this week in Jackson, Mississippi. They do a bit of the usual house-cleaning before welcoming on special guest, Mr. Bunkie Perkins (of twitter fame). Bunkie, besides being a friend of the program, is a lawyer by training, a former college athletic administrator and AF2 GM, and current wildcatter who proudly graduated from Ole Miss. He shares what he knows about the Magnolia State. Enjoy!
Oct 01, 2020
Episode 100: A Journey to the Ozarks
Episode 100! What a world! In this one DJ and Randy unpack their trip last week to Branson, Missouri. Neither one had ever been to Big Cedar Lodge, let alone the Ozarks, but thanks to the fine folks at KemperLesnik were invited out to attend the grand opening of Payne's Valley, Tiger Woods' first public golf course design. To commemorate the occasion, the Payne's Valley Cup was contested between Team USA (Tiger and Justin Thomas) and Team Europe (Justin Rose and Rory McIlroy). This episode explores the three-day trip, from the match, to playing Ozarks National, Mountain Top and Payne's Valley, and finally some interesting happenings off the course. It was certainly an experience. Enjoy!
Sep 29, 2020
Episode 99: Chris McKendry
Professional tennis is rolling right from the US Open into the French Open. As such, there is no better time to catch up with ESPN's Grand Slam tennis host, Chris McKendry. Chris broke into television sports journalism in the early 90s, made her way to ESPN's Sportscenter a few years later and served as an anchor on that show for 20 years. She now hosts grand slam tennis. She discusses her love of tennis, breaking into sports media, hosting Sportscenter, and all of Randy's various inquiries into tennis and its stars. Enjoy!
Sep 24, 2020
Episode 98: Westchester County, NY
The US Open is at Winged Foot in Westchester County so Tron and Randy brought on somebody that knows a thing or two about golf in the area--Wally Szczerbiak. Besides being a fellow alumnus of Miami University, Wally is an avid golfer, currently serving as commissioner of the hallowed Professional Leisure Tour. Before that, he enjoyed a 10-year NBA career, making the 2002 All-Star team. We picked Wally's mind about the best golf around metro New York City, where his passion for golf developed, and much more. Enjoy! 
Sep 16, 2020
Episode 97: Napa Valley
Tron and Randy are joined by Mark Reyes to preview Napa. Mark is a level-3 sommelier, friend of the program, and instructor of wine classes on our message board, The Refuge. We get into Mark's background with wine, ask him about the industry, his favorites, how he got started, and so much more. Mark's love and passion for wine shines through this episode, and will be a fun listen whether you're really into wine or not--heck, maybe you'll discover a new interest! Enjoy!
Sep 11, 2020
Episode 96: Beth Ann Nichols
The ANA Inspiration this week will be the LPGA's second major. As such, what better time for Randy to check in with Golfweek's Beth Ann Nichols. The two put a bow on the Women's Open, peek ahead to the ANA, and discuss many other players and issues in the women's game. Enjoy!
Sep 08, 2020
Episode 95: ATL
This is a special one. Spencer Hall (@edsbs on twitter) joins Tron and Randy to talk all about Atlanta. Spencer is one of, if not *the* inspiration for No Laying Up. What he and his friends did talking about college football served as inspiration for us to approach golf in a similarly fun, educational, and irreverent vein. We get in to all different aspects of Atlanta with Spencer and hope you enjoy!
Sep 02, 2020
Episode 94: Chicago
Things get a bit windy this week as our attention turns to Chicago. Tron and Randy are joined by Joe B., Randy's childhood friend, Chicago resident, and general menace. JB tells tales from high school and college, and then shares his opinions on Chicago, his home for the last decade and a half. Enjoy!
Aug 25, 2020
Episode 93: Beantown
We're headed to the Northeast this week! The tournament is in the Boston area so who better to talk to than a man who did a lot of work there. Danny Woodhead, NFL veteran, former Patriot, and avid golfer joins Randy and TC to chop it up. Enjoy!
Aug 18, 2020
Episode 92: "Tournament Town"
You many not know much about Greensboro, NC, but that's about to change. A city rich in history, famous denizens, culture, and nicknames, we promise you'll learn a lot from our guest, Greensboro's own Jim Dodson. Jim is a renowned golf author, former newspaperman, and current regional arts magazine magnate. He's a fantastic storyteller, with loads of knowledge on golf, Greensboro, and much more. Enjoy!
Aug 11, 2020
Episode 91: Bay Area
With the PGA Championship at Harding Park this week it's a great excuse to catch up with the Merch Czar, Neil Schuster, former resident of San Francisco about all things Bay Area. Neil lived on the West Coast for over 5 years and shares his insights and opinions. Enjoy!
Aug 04, 2020
Episode 90: Grit and Grind in Memphis
We're headed to the Home of the Blues, Graceland, FedEx, and a gigantic pyramid--Memphis, Tennessee! There was only one man we could talk to this week, and that's CBS Sports's Kyle Porter. He joins Tron and Randy in the back half of the episode to discuss how he made a name for himself this time last year. Plus there's discussion on several things in Memphis and a few things outside of Memphis. Enjoy!
Jul 28, 2020
Episode 89: Ming Tsai (Part 2)
This is Part 2 of Tron and Randy's conversation with renowned chef, Ming Tsai. He details his best bite ever, we chat about his golf game, and much more. Be sure to check out Part 1 from last week too. Enjoy!
Jul 23, 2020
Episode 88: Ope, It's the Twin Cities!
We're off to the land of 10,000 lakes! It's Twin Cities week and Tron and Randy brought in The Ringer's Megan Schuster to talk about her hometown. From the sports scene to the arts scene, and of course so much in between, we learn all about Minneapolis/St. Paul. Enjoy! 
Jul 21, 2020
Episode 87: Ming Tsai (Part 1)
Tron and Randy are joined by Chef Ming Tsai to talk about his culinary adventures and so much more. Besides owning and operating several award-winning restaurants, Chef Tsai currently hosts 'Simply Ming' on PBS. Prior to that, he hosted 'East Meets West' on Food Network, and has appeared on 'Iron Chef' and 'Top Chef'. Ming's story is so much fun, and his energy infectious. This episode is Part 1 of 2. Enjoy!
Jul 16, 2020
Episode 86: You're Damn Right We're Doing Columbus Again
A city so nice for tournament golf they're playing it twice. Hell yeah we're running back Columbus. Some mea culpas for Tron and Randy to issue, new ground to explore, and then a wide-ranging interview with the one, the only, RC3. Enjoy! 
Jul 13, 2020
Episode 85: Dave Flemming
Joining the show is baseball play-by-play man for the San Francisco Giants, Dave Flemming. In addition to his work for the Giants, Dave does football, basketball, baseball and golf for ESPN. Randy and Dave discuss the return to baseball coming up towards the end of July, what to make of the format and rule changes, and much more about Dave's baseball background. They also get into golf (you won't believe a stat Dave casually tosses out about his game), and much more. Enjoy!
Jul 09, 2020
Episode 84: Columbus, Ohio
Tron and Randy invite Soly in to talk about Ohio's capital, Columbus. Soly was born and raised in Dublin, home to Muirfiled Village Golf Club and host of the next two PGA Tour events. The guys get steep on a number of topic, including Buck Tech and their football fans, the local food and golf scenes, and who makes the better ice cream--Jeni's or Graeter's? Enjoy!
Jul 07, 2020
Episode 83: Bonnie Ford
ESPN's Bonnie Ford joins the show to discuss her career in sports journalism. She shares how she got started, the best advice she received, and gets into her work along the way. One of Bonnie's areas of expertise is doping in sports, and she shares valuable thoughts on the persistent fight to curb it. She talks about how she has covered fourteen iterations of the Tour de France, getting into the logistical web of the event, plus what it was like to report on the Lance Armstrong story. Finally, she speaks about one of the most difficult, yet rewarding, stories she's worked on involving a biathlete named Kari Swenson. All this and much more. Enjoy!
Jul 01, 2020
Episode 82: Detroit
In the first half of the episode Tron and Randy muse about Detroit, touching on everything from the Ambassador Bridge to the Underwear Bomber. In the second half of the episode, Randy chats with 101.9 WDET Senior News Editor, Quinn Klinefelter about his twenty-plus years living and working in Detroit, and how its past has shaped the city it is today. Enjoy!
Jun 29, 2020
Episode 81: Damon Hack
Joining Randy on this episode is Golf Channel's Damon Hack. You no doubt know Damon as a co-host of 'Morning Drive' but do you know how he got into professional golf? Damon discusses his path into both picking up the game and eventually covering the game as a journalist. At the beginning of June, Damon wrote a very powerful piece on entitled, "Can I Be Both Thankful and Horrified? Can I?" He shares the thoughts and emotions which went into that piece, as well as other valuable insights into the state of golf, and society. We can't thank Damon enough for his time and willingness to speak openly about his story. Enjoy!
Jun 25, 2020
Episode 80: The Insurance Capital of the World
The PGA Tour rolls into Hartford, CT for the Travelers Championship this weekend. Tron and Randy dive into the history of Hartford, why it's the insurance capital of the world, highlight some famous Hartfordians (Hartfordites?), and then chop it up with Connecticut local, and ESPN veteran, John Buccigross. Find out why Tron slept in his car in Hartford, why the Whalers moved south, and much more. Enjoy! 
Jun 23, 2020
Episode 79: Hilton Head Island
We continue our preview series taking a look this week at Hilton Head Island, and specifically Harbour Town. Tron and Randy are joined by DJ and Neil to reminisce about the Island, their fondest memories, and much more. Also, the last 20 minutes of the episode is an interview with Gregg Russell, Harbour Town institution, who's been playing guitar and entertaining visitors for over 40 years. Enjoy!
Jun 16, 2020
Episode 78: Lakareber Abe

This episode of the TrapDraw features Lakareber Abe, professional golfer on the LPGA's Symetra Tour. Turning pro in 2018 after an excellent career at Alabama, Lakareber has one of the more unique backgrounds in golf. She's the daughter of Ugandan-American parents, her father getting into golf after coming to the States and eventually passing that passion onto Lakareber and her sister. She details this journey into golf, from beginnings to the professional level, reflects on the 2018 NCAA Championships, and so much more. Enjoy!

Jun 11, 2020
Episode 77: The MetroPlex!
TC and Randy are bringing back the spirit of the old, written weekly previews! First up is the Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial in Ft. Worth, TX. Just as the most fun and amusing aspects of the previews were the things ancillary to golf, so too is that the case with this podcast. To help educate and entertain about all things Plex, we are joined by The Commish, DFW expert. Enjoy! 
Jun 09, 2020
Episode 76: Will Buxton
Randy is joined by veteran Formula 1 reporter Will Buxton to discuss the sport, his history with it, and catch up on current events. On the heels of our Perfect Club episode (Ep 74) a couple weeks back, and the amazing reception it received, we really wanted to get a bit more in-depth with Will--and he does not disappoint! 
May 27, 2020
Episode 75: Brian Anderson
Randy is joined by veteran broadcaster Brian Anderson. Brian currently works for Turner Sports calling NBA basketball and postseason baseball, as well as handling play-by-play duties for Milwaukee Brewers television broadcasts. This Sunday, May 24th, he'll be the lead announcer for The Match on TNT featuring Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. The two discuss this weekend's event along with Brian's experiences in broadcasting, from getting his start in minor league baseball to interviewing Greg Popovich as sideline reporter with the San Antonio Spurs, plus much more! 
May 20, 2020
Episode 74: Formula 1 Racing
It's a Perfect Club with Tron, Neil and Randy! The trio discuss their enjoyment of the Netflix series, "Formula 1: Drive to Survive". There are currently two seasons chronicling the 2018 and 2019 race campaigns, respectively. Among other topics touched upon are favorite personalities, favorite/least favorite drivers, best tracks, teams, and much, much more!
May 12, 2020
Episode 73: Brett Cyrgalis
You're invited into the Reading Room for a conversation between Randy and New York Post sportswriter Brett Cyrgalis on his new book, "Golf's Holy War: The Battle for the Soul of a Game in an Age of Science". The two discuss Brett's background in writing and in golf before diving into a conversation about the book and its contents. Enjoy!  
May 05, 2020
Episode 72: Andrew Whitworth

Neil and Randy chop it up with NFL veteran offensive tackle, Andrew Whitworth. Along with being an All-Pro football player Andrew is an avid golfer during his offseason. They discuss the nature of his golf game, how a man of his stature (6'7 300+ lbs) goes about it, if he can relate to any PGA pros, and a lot more. And of course there's lots of football talk too--Coach Saban, the AFC North, blocking technique and schemes, Coach McVay, and more! Enjoy. 

(Note: there are 45 seconds where Andrew's phone cuts out just a bit at the 46:50 mark when discussing Carson Palmer--sorry for that inconvenience)

Apr 30, 2020
Episode 71: All Things 'Strapped'
With the culmination of both 'Strapped: Southern California' and the fundraiser to determine the location of the first post-lockdown 'Strapped' upon us, Neil, DJ and Randy discuss the show in its entirety. Included are favorites, least favorites, funny off-camera incidents and so much more, including numerous viewer-submitted questions. Enjoy!
Apr 27, 2020
Episode 70: Golf and the Virus

In this episode Neil chats with some of our partners and friends across the golf landscape to get a first-hand perspective on how COVID-19 is impacting individuals and businesses. Here at NLU, we’ve postponed events, halted travel plans, and completely changed our content calendar, and we're not alone in that regard--this podcast puts into perspective how far reaching the impact has been for others in the golf industry.

Apr 24, 2020
Episode 69: Stephen Dubner
Stephen Dubner is best known for his 'Freakonomics' writing and podcasting. In addition to that, Stephen is a decorated journalist, father, and avid golfer. He joins Neil and Randy to talk about his initial path into golf, his ongoing frustrations with the game, and also how the 'Freakonomics' podcast came to be. The guys ask Stephen about the work that goes into his show, how he has transformed as a host, and the evolution of the podcast market in general. Many thanks to Stephen for the time, check out his 'Freakonomics' show if you don't already, and then be sure to search for him and his college band, The Right Profile! Enjoy!  
Apr 21, 2020
Episode 68: 'The Wire' Characters
It's a Perfect Club of sorts! The whole NLU crew is here discussing which PGA Tour golfers correspond to which characters from the television series, "The Wire". If you haven't watched it, it's available to stream for free right now and we highly recommend it. Let us know which assessments you agree with, which you don't, and who the biggest omissions are. Enjoy!
Apr 16, 2020
Episode 67: Jay Bilas
Randy is joined by ESPN basketball analyst, esquire, author, and avid golfer, Jay Bilas. The two talk hoops, college athletics, golf, and more. Enjoy!
Apr 14, 2020
Episode 66: Austin Ernst
Randy is joined by the LPGA's Austin Ernst to discuss her golf career and a plethora of audience-submitted questions. Austin, 2011 NCAA National Champion for LSU, has been a mainstay on the LPGA since 2013 capturing her first career win at the 2014 Portland Classic. In 2017 she made her first Solheim Cup team and in 2018 finished runner-up at the Evian Championship. She opens up her golf game, her path to the LPGA Tour, and much more. Thanks to everybody who submitted questions! Enjoy! 
Apr 09, 2020
Episode 65: Bob Sturm
Neil and Randy chop it up with Bob Sturm, Dallas-based journalist, radio personality and author. Besides being an avid golfer and NLU fan, for which we're grateful, Bob has spent nearly three decades in radio, currently co-hosting the Hardline show on The Ticket Sports Radio. Bob regales us with an assortment of stories from his time in the business, including a few featuring the infamous Scoops Callahan! Bob is full of life and has great energy, this was a really fun conversation. Enjoy!
Apr 07, 2020
Episode 64: '90s Action Movies

Perfect Club time! The Carter Brothers, Tron and Neil, are joined by Mr. Poosh (aka Micah Pueschel of Iration) to analyze not only what makes a good '90s action flick but also what their favorite offerings in the genre are. As the world continues in quarantine, we hope this episode both informs and entertains about the '90s action movie, and maybe even provides an idea or two for future movie nights. Enjoy!

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Apr 02, 2020
Episode 63: Michael Bamberger
Randy, DJ and Neil are joined for an evening by the inimitable Michael Bamberger. Michael is a writer for GOLF Magazine and, as well as author of several books. The first portion of this podcast explores his new book, "The Second Life of Tiger Woods". The second half of the podcast gets weirder and looser as the guys talk about more broad subjects of life. Michael's book, out today, is absolutely sensational, as was the time spent with him. Enjoy!
Mar 31, 2020
Episode 62: Steve Wiebe
A special follow up to our Perfect Club episode about "The King of Kong" (Episode 61)! Randy, DJ, and Neil interview the documentary's star, Donkey Kong world record setter, Steve Wiebe. They discuss how the film came to be, if Steve wanted to punch Brian Kuh, and a whole host of things. Steve is teaching high school up in Washington and among other things is the varsity golf coach, having guided his squad to a state championship! We can't thank Steve enough for his time and patience answering our questions, and special shoutout to Sean Kato for the introduction. Enjoy!
Mar 25, 2020
Episode 61: The King of Kong
It's another Perfect Club! In this episode Randy, DJ and Neil watch the 2007 documentary, "The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters". The trio reveal their favorite scenes, the best quotes, and compare the main characters to professional golfers (among other things). If you have not seen the documentary we would encourage you to watch it before listening. It's available on YouTube in its entirety, as well as select streaming and rental services. We hope you have as much fun watching and listening as we did. Enjoy!
Mar 24, 2020
Episode 60: Megan Khang

In this episode Tron and Randy are joined by the LPGA's Megan Khang. Megan discusses her and her family's remarkable, and unlikely, path into the game of golf. She talks about her beginnings as a small child with her father, a stellar amateur career, the decision about whether to attend college or turn professional, and much more.  At just 22 years of age, it's easy to forget how young she still is, as she's been a mainstay on LPGA leaderboards for several years now, including competing on the 2019 Solheim Cup team. Enjoy!

(Note: This interview was recorded in November 2019 at the LPGA Tour Championship)

Mar 18, 2020
Episode 59: Matthew Goodman & "The City Game"
March Madness is here! To celebrate the best time of the college basketball calendar Randy talks with writer Matthew Goodman about The City College of New York basketball team, the only squad to ever win both the NCAA and NIT postseason tournaments in the same season. Goodman's book, "The City Game: Triumph, Scandal, and a Legendary Basketball Team," does an incredible job of bringing that historic team to life once again, as well as exploring the burgeoning college basketball industry. As the title suggests, CCNY would find scandal and shame along with their titles, with the seedy underbelly of college athletics, New York City bookmaking, and local politics all being exposed. It's a wonderful read for any basketball fan as we get ready to crown a new champion. Enjoy!
Mar 11, 2020
Episode 58: Stephen Proctor on Young Tom Morris
It's a Reading Room episode of the TrapDraw as Randy is joined by author Stephen Proctor to discuss his book, "Monarch of the Green: Young Tom Morris, Pioneer of Modern Golf." No doubt the name Young Tom Morris is familiar to you, but how much do you know about his life? Do you know why he's such an important figure in the game of golf? How he has influenced the modern game? How about the massive tragedy surrounding him? Stephen Proctor is a golf historian and spent several years researching and writing about Young Tom. He's a great storyteller and shares what he knows about one of the games foremost figures. Enjoy!
Mar 04, 2020
Episode 57: Beth Ann Nichols
GolfWeek's Beth Ann Nichols joins Randy to catch up on the first quarter of the 2020 LPGA season. They discuss how the coronavirus has impacted the schedule, on-course results like Madelene Sagstrom's breakthrough win in Boca and Inbee Park ending her near two-year drought, the passing of LPGA great, and American golf icon, Mickey Wright, and several other topics and people of note. Note to listeners--the LPGA returns to action March 19-22 in Phoenix, so hopefully this helps tide you over until the action resumes. Enjoy!
Feb 26, 2020
Episode 56: Garth Brooks and 'The Road I'm On'
It's the Perfect Club! Today's episode features Neil Schuster, DJ Piehowski and Jerry Bell (Garth connoisseur and Neil's roommate) discussing Garth Brooks through the lens of the 2019 documentary, 'The Road I'm On.' The guys offer their spirited insights and opinions on the piece, as well as diving deeper into the man, and phenomenon, that is Garth Brooks. Enjoy!
Feb 19, 2020
Episode 55: Bob Royak (2019 US Sr. Amateur Champion)
Randy sits down with the winner of the 2019 US Senior Amateur, Bob Royak. The two discuss Bob's history in the game of golf, the razor-thin line between a potential career in pro golf or not, and the book that changed Bob's life, which he credits for helping him win the amateur last year. It's always a pleasure to speak with elite amateurs and Bob's resume stacks right up there with the best in the game right now. Enjoy! 
Feb 12, 2020
Episode 54: Oscars SZN!
It's Oscars season! Randy and DJ watched all nine of the best picture nominees this year and share thoughts on each movie, plus give out some of their own awards. The two are joined by Neil Schuster, the March Czar, who saw several of the nominees and joins in where applicable. This is a long pod, but instead of splitting it in two we'll let you be your own boss and break it up as you see fit. The first hour is awards, while the second hour is discussion on each nominee: Ford vs Ferrari (1:00:12), The Irishman (1:04:16), Jojo Rabbit (1:14:49), Joker (1:25:57), Little Women (1:31:56), Marriage Story (1:35:54), 1917 (1:45:55), Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (1:50:26), and Parasite (1:55:25). We should warn you there are light spoilers but we try our best to avoid anything that would detract from your enjoyment of the movie. Be warned though.  
Feb 05, 2020
Episode 53: Gary Nicol & Karl Morris on The Lost Art of Playing Golf

Randy is joined by Gary Nicol and Karl Morris, authors of the book "The Lost Art of Playing Golf." Gary is a golf professional and coach who has worked with golfers of all stripes and abilities, from weekend hacks to some of the best pros in the world. Karl has been a performance coach for over a quarter-century and counts among his clients golf professionals, cricketers, and international soccer players. This is the second book for the duo after their first release, "The Lost Art of Putting." The trio touch on a number of ideas and concepts, none of them technical, which are both at the heart of the game and integral to playing better golf. Hope you enjoy!

Jan 30, 2020
Episode 52: John Smoltz
Today's guest is Hall of Fame pitcher, MLB and Fox broadcast analyst, and golfer John Smoltz. Randy explores John's baseball career before turning the conversation towards golf, discussing both John's accomplishments to date, as well as what he hopes to do over the next several years. Along the way are numerous anecdotes around baseball and golf, including how Michael Jordan gets himself ready to hit a big putt, and what it's like to pitch to Tiger Woods. Smoltz just wrapped up his second consecutive win in the Celebrity Division of the LPGA's Tournament of Champions last weekend and is hoping to get more starts on the Champions Tour this summer. This was a treat to talk to John and hope you enjoy! 
Jan 21, 2020
Episode 51: Annie Park
The 2020 LPGA season is underway and Randy sits down at the season-opening Tournament of Champions with Annie Park to discuss her golf journey. Annie got her start in the game by going along with her mother to the golf course. She enjoyed a sterling junior career, and won NCAA individual and team championships as a collegiate golfer. Her path into the LPGA came easy at first, before back injury and doubt set her back. She details the highs and lows of her career, and talks about her mindset approaching this season and beyond. Enjoy!
Jan 16, 2020
Episode 50: We’re on to 2020!
Happy New Year! The whole crew sits down to first anoint what 2020 will officially be. Next, the guys review their performance of their 2019 goals, and finally, put their 2020 golf, physical, and life goals down on paper. 
Jan 07, 2020
Episode 49: Dylan Frittelli
Tron goes 1-on-1 with Dylan Frittelli. The 29 year-old South African won for the first time on the PGA Tour in July of 2019 at the John Deere Classic (5th major!). Tron explores Dylan's background, his interests away from the course, and how he's approaching the new PGA Tour season. Dylan even tries to explain cricket to TC. Happy Holidays from the TrapDraw and hope you enjoy!
Dec 16, 2019
Episode 48: Keith Cutten
Randy is joined by author and golf course architect, Keith Cutten. They discuss Keith's book, "The Evolution of Golf Course Design," which is the December 2019 Reading Room selection. Keith's book details the history of design from the early days of the game until now, with emphasis on the architects, authors, and visionaries that shaped it all. This felt less like a typical interview and more like getting to attend a fantastically informative, entertaining lecture on something I love. Thanks to Keith and hope you enjoy!
Dec 10, 2019
Episode 47: Terry Gannon
Randy sits down 1-on-1 with NBC Sports broadcaster Terry Gannon for a discussion about his basketball career, his journey in television broadcasting, and the intricacies of calling golf. For those that may not know, Terry was a key member of the 1983 national champion North Carolina State Wolfpack basketball team which upset heavily-favored Houston in one of the most iconic title games ever. From competing in the star-studded ACC to some of his favorite memories of Coach Jim Valvano, it was a real treat to talk hoops with Terry. Beyond basketball, Terry talks about why he accepted a job to call figure skating in Tokyo in the 90s, and how that has led to a wonderfully diverse broadcasting career for him. This was immensely enjoyable, hope you enjoy! 
Dec 03, 2019
Episode 46: Marina Alex
Tron and Randy sit down with Marina Alex to talk about her golf journey, venturing into a number of topics along the way. Marina, currently ranked #30 in the Rolex Rankings, broke through last year with her first career LPGA win at the 2018 Cambia Portland Classic, a result which helped propel her onto this year's Solheim Cup team. We ask her all about that experience, along with finding herself in the Cup-deciding match against Suzann Pettersen--plus so much more!  
Nov 25, 2019
Episode 45: Beth Ann Nichols
Tron and Randy are on site at the LPGA's CME Group Tour Championship and joined by Beth Ann Nichols, senior writer at Golfweek and guiding light for all things LPGA-related. In addition to previewing this weekend's championship, they discuss the state of the LPGA, breakdown some of the more interesting stories from the last couple months, and look forward to 2020 and beyond. Enjoy!
Nov 21, 2019
Episode 44: Neil Schuster aka The Merch Czar
No stranger to the TrapDraw, Neil Schuster (aka The Merch Czar) joins Randy and Tron to break down his recent trip out to Los Angeles for the joint birthday party of Tommy Armour III and IV. He found himself at a house party in the Hollywood Hills among a gaggle of B and C-List celebrities. He recounts his weekend and the guys touch on a few other topics along the way. Enjoy!
Oct 14, 2019
Episode 43: Gene Elliott
Randy is joined by Gene Elliott, currently the top-ranked senior amateur golfer in the United States. The two of them explore Gene's golf career, from a boy in Iowa learning the game to most recently winning the illustrious Crump Cup at Pine Valley, along with so much more. Gene is affable, gracious, and open about his life and experiences. It's a distinct honor and pleasure to get to speak with Gene and I hope everybody enjoys the conversation. 
Oct 09, 2019
Episode 42: Kevin Robbins

In this episode Randy chats with author Kevin Robbins about his new book, "The Last Stand of Payne Stewart: The Year Golf Changed Forever." Kevin's book covers Payne Stewart during his magical 1999 season, chronicling his journey and transformation as a man and as a golfer before his tragic death in October of that year. As the back flap of Kevin's work reads, "[Payne's] death marked the end of an era, one made up of "shotmakers" who played the game with artistry, guile, finesse, and heart. Behind them were Tiger Woods, David Duval, Phil Mickelson, and other young players whose power and strength changed the PGA Tour forever. With exclusive access to Stewart's friends, family, and onetime colleagues, Kevin Robbins provides a long-overdue portrait of one of golf's greats in one of golf's greatest seasons."

Oct 07, 2019
Episode 41: Jeff King
Tron and Randy have a chat with Jeff King, professional caddie and jerky connoisseur. Jeff has over twenty years on the bag across the PGA  and LPGA Tours. From his introduction to the game of golf, to his break with David Leadbetter, Jeff talks about how he became a caddie and some of the things he's learned along the way. Speaking of, somewhere along the way, he picked up a hobby making beef jerky, which slowly but surely turned into Kingmade Jerky. Jeff shares the origins of his jerky obsession, and how it kept him more busy at home than on the road. Enjoy!
Sep 30, 2019
Episode 40: Bud Schultz
On his pilgrimage to the US Senior Amateur in August 2019, Randy met a number of interesting people, both competitors and otherwise. What better format to share some of these stories than right here. First up is Bud Schultz. Bud was playing in his very first Senior Am, qualifying out of the Northeast. A former world-class tennis player, Bud's journey (and ascension) within the game of golf is remarkable. This was such a fun conversation as Bud is quite clearly tapped into that super-premium life energy. Hope you enjoy!
Sep 16, 2019
Episode 39: 2019-20 FredEx Cup Draft
It's the best day of the year in the KillHouse! After a long, relaxing offseason the guys are back to draft their teams for the second annual FredEx Cup. They recap the 2018-19 season, discussing the highs and lows, changes for this upcoming season, and decide on winning and losing stakes. The draft was fast and furious, with curveballs and banter abound. This is a fun one, not to be missed. Have a listen this weekend as the 2019-20 PGA season kicks off!
Sep 11, 2019
Episode 38: Korn Ferry Championship + Senior Amateur
Hurricane Dorian has thrown some logistical challenges into the recording but like old times Tron and Randy hop on the blower to discuss the Korn Ferry Tour Championship this past weekend, plus Randy debriefs a bit on the US Senior Amateur. Enjoy!
Sep 04, 2019
Episode 37: Max Homa on Korn Ferry Finals
Fresh off leading Team Randy to a FredExCup victory, friend of the program Max Homa stops by to talk about the Korn Ferry Finals and why he can't stop thinking about this week's venue, Victoria National in Indiana. Thanks to Kingmade Jerky for sponsoring this episode of the Trap Draw.
Aug 30, 2019
Episode 36: 2018-19 PGA Tour Recap Show
We've turned our Live Show into a podcast! This is the audio version of the 8/19/19 Live Show recapping the 2018-19 PGA Tour season. Tron, Soly, DJ and Randy relive the season, discussion all the highs and lows from the year. 
Aug 20, 2019
Episode 35: Korn Ferry Discussion
Tron and Randy chop it up about the Korn Ferry regular season finale in Portland which TC attended, as well as preview the Finals. Additionally, they talk about some of their recent golf trips--Randy in Michigan and TC in Nebraska and Oregon. Enjoy!
Aug 15, 2019
Episode 34: Beth Ann Nichols

Randy is joined by Beth Ann Nichols, senior writer at GolfWeek, to discuss a wide array of topics pertaining to the LPGA Tour including Hinako Shibuno's incredible victory at the Women's British Open, Jin Young Ko's dominant season, the deluge of young, first-time major winners, and much more. Enjoy!

Aug 12, 2019
Episode 33: Justin Lower
Tron sits down for an in-depth conversation with Justin Lower about his golf career. We are extremely proud Justin is one of our Young Hitters and he has an incredibly impactful story to share. Enjoy!
Aug 08, 2019
Episode 32: Pro Caddie Matty Kelly
Tron and DJ sit down with Matty Kelly, longtime caddie for Marc Leishman, to discuss a variety of topics including a typical day for Matty, his favorite major venues, best reads (and misreads), and much more. 
Aug 05, 2019
Episode 31: Commissioner for a Day
Tron, Randy and DJ muse about what they would do if named Commissioner. No idea is too small or too improbable!
Jul 17, 2019
Episode 30: Alan Shipnuck talks "Bud, Sweat, & Tees"
Randy is joined by author and golf journalist, Alan Shipnuck, to talk about the May book club selection, "Bud, Sweat, & Tees." It's been a little while since I've been able to do one of these author interviews and who better to break the absence with than Alan. If you have read the book, Alan offers a lot of interesting context around how the book came to be, fills in context around the characters and chats about what's changed on the golf beat in the twenty years since the book was published. For those who haven't read it, I hope this interview will spark an interest to go pick it up. Enjoy!
Jun 18, 2019
Episode 29: Bill Fields on John McDermott, Two-Time US Open Champion
Randy is joined by golf author and photographer Bill Fields to discuss his piece on 2x US Open Champion, John McDermott. It's a fascinating story, tragic to be sure, which has been mostly lost to time (at least to most younger fans and non-historians of the game). If you don't know the story I encourage you to give it a listen, especially as you get ready to settle in this weekend and watch the US Open from Pebble Beach. Enjoy!
Jun 11, 2019
Episode 28: Charlie Saxon & Brandon Matthews

Two of NLU’s Young Hitters, Charlie Saxon and Brandon Matthews, sit down with Tron to talk about their current game, backgrounds, and myriad of other topics. This episode was recorded in late March 2019 at the Web Tour’s Savannah Golf Championship. Enjoy!

Apr 11, 2019
Episode 27: Some Kind of Monster

This is the second installment of the Perfect Club! Today’s topic is the 2004 documentary currently airing on Netflix called Some Kind of Monster. It chronicles the band Metallica during the making of what would...

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Mar 21, 2019
Episode 26: “We’re on to 2019”

It’s a one-mic roundtable with everybody present, just like the old days! We discuss our mindset going into the new year, re-live some highlights from the past year, and share some personal goals (golf and...

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Jan 08, 2019
Episode 25: Airports

I know what you’re thinking, airports? That’s right, airports. This edition of the Trap Draw is very special–it’s the debut of the Perfect Club, a new concept which will be a staple of 2019. Tron, DJ,...

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Dec 19, 2018
Episode 24: Merch Czar

In this episode Tron and Randy debrief with the Merch Czar on his big boxing match last month. Plus, the guys breakdown the early portion of the FredEx Cup season.

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Dec 07, 2018
Episode 23: Tom Coyne

This episode is a chat with author Tom Coyne about his book, Paper Tiger. I chose Paper Tiger as the October book club pick as it’s a great read with the dawn of a new...

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Nov 06, 2018
Episode 22: The Inaugural FredEx Cup!

A very special, fun Trap Draw as it’s the introduction of the inaugural Race to the FredEx Cup. Randy and Tron are joined by DJ and Neil to explain all the particulars. Long story short,...

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Oct 03, 2018
Episode 21: Lorne Rubenstein

This episode features an interview with the distinguished golf writer and journalist, Lorne Rubenstein. Our conversation is about Moe Norman, and specifically Lorne’s book entitled, “Moe & Me: Encounters with Moe Norman, Golf’s Mysterious Genius.”...

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Oct 01, 2018
Episode 20: Neil Schuster aka “The Merch Czar”

It’s been a little while since we’ve caught up with Neil on the TrapDraw. He’s got a lot going on, from training for a charity boxing event, golfing in and around New York City, exploring...

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Sep 05, 2018
Episode 19: Josh Karp

This episode is an interview with Josh Karp, author of “Straight Down the Middle,” the August book selection for the Reading Room book club. Josh and I talk about golf, life, and a few other...

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Aug 30, 2018
Episode 18: Tyler McCumber

The hottest golfer on the planet, Tyler McCumber, joins Tron and Randy live in the KillHouse. Tyler has won three of his last four starts on the Mackenzie Tour and is back home in Jax...

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Aug 23, 2018
Episode 17: The Journey of Tiger

This episode of the Trap Draw is a dive into the long, strange trip its been for Tiger Woods since the fateful Thanksgiving almost a decade ago. With Woods looking legitimately healthy and appearing to...

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Aug 14, 2018
Episode 15: Michael Bamberger

This episode is an interview with Michael Bamberger. A golf writer since graduating from college in the early 80’s, Michael’s work has appeared in numerous forms and publications, including, Golf magazine and Sports Illustrated....

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Aug 02, 2018
Episode 14: George Peper

This episode is an interview with George Peper. George has been deeply involved with the game of golf, covering it for over four decades. He started at Golf Magazine where he was named editor-in-chief in...

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Jun 28, 2018
Episode 13: US American Open Preview

It’s the national championship at Shinnecock! This episode consists of four separate interviews which we hope will provide a more in-depth, nuanced look at the US Open and those competing in it. Our first interview...

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Jun 11, 2018
Episode 12: NCAAs, Web Tour, and More!

In this episode Tron and Randy are joined by DJ Pie to breakdown the NCAA Championship action, hear about Tron’s tales from the Web Tour, including meeting his hero as well as incurring a two-stroke...

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Jun 04, 2018
Episode 11: NLU Crew

I don’t want to alarm anybody, but the TrapDraw is back! At the risk of ruining our standing as the most popular non-existent golf podcast around, we decided maybe it’s time to fire things back...

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May 29, 2018
Episode 10: Kelly Hawkins

Tron chops it up with Kelly Hawkins, formerly of the PGA Tour and currently of the Daily Rally, a daily sports email service she and her sister founded. They touch on a number of topics...

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Sep 13, 2017
Episode 9: The Franchise

This extra special edition of the Trap Draw goes in-depth and behind the scenes into the player-caddie breakup that rocked the golf world earlier this year. We’re speaking of course about Tron firing his father,...

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Aug 17, 2017
Episode 8: Tee-K Kelly

Tron is joined by Tee-K Kelly to discuss Tee-K’s path to professional golf, life on the #NarcosTour and his introduction to El Camarón!    

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Jul 20, 2017
Episode 7: Masters Preview

Andy Johnson (@the_fried_egg) and DJ Piehowski (@DJPie) pop in to discuss The Masters and break down the inaugural NLU/Fried Egg Masters Pool. We sprinkle some spicy golf course architecture takes in throughout. This should tide everyone...

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Apr 04, 2017
Episode 6: J.T. Poston

We’re back from extended holiday with a great guest, J.T. Poston. J.T. is a rookie out on Tour this year currently in good form coming off a T-17 at Riv and a T-27 at Honda...

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Mar 08, 2017
Episode 5: Neil Schuster

It’s a lighthearted, holiday edition of the Trap Draw! Our very own Merch Czar, Neil Schuster, joined us to talk about his recent trip to Vegas hanging with Tommy Armour III and Tommy Armour IV....

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Dec 27, 2016
Episode 4: Todd Mitchell

It’s the return of the TrapDraw! In this episode Tron and Randy talk with Todd Mitchell, a staple of the Mid-Am ranks. From his early days competing in the Illinois State Amateur to his 2008...

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Nov 16, 2016
Episode 3: Bob May

In this episode of the TrapDraw, we sit down with Bob May, 2000 PGA Championship runner-up. If you’re like us, we only really know Bob from his duel with Tiger at Valhalla, where he provided some of the most...

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Jul 28, 2016
Episode 2: Reaction on Spieth/McIlroy Pressers and Olympic Golf

Tron & Randy hop on the blower to quickly discuss the wild day in golf, and on Twitter, stemming from the McIlroy and Spieth pressers regarding not playing in Rio.

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Jul 13, 2016
Episode 1: Jean van de Velde

It’s (finally) here! The debut episode of the Trap Draw podcast featuring myself and Tron Carter. As it’s British Open week that’s the main theme of episode 1. The first part of the show Tron and I...

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Jul 11, 2016