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Recorded Future takes you inside the world of cyber threat intelligence. We’re sharing stories from the trenches and the operations floor as well as giving you the skinny on established and emerging adversaries. We also talk current events, technical tradecraft, and offer up insights on the big picture issues in our industry. Join the Recorded Future team, special guests, and our partners from the CyberWire to learn everything you want to know (and maybe some things you’d rather not know) about the world of cyber threat intelligence.

Episode Date
113 Being Courageous, Curious, and Thoughtful in Cybersecurity

Our guest today is Tracy Maleeff. Before earning a position as a cyber analyst at a Fortune 500 company, she ran her own firm, providing information security and competitive intelligence research. Prior to that she worked as a Library Resources Manager for a major law firm.

Tracy shares the story of her unusual career journey from library science to cyber security, her advice for getting up to speed after a mid-career course change, as well as her thoughts on team building and the importance of diversity throughout an organization.

Jun 24, 2019
112 Making the Most of the NIST Cybersecurity Framework

The NIST Cybersecurity Framework has become a valuable tool for evaluating security across a variety of business sectors. Originally published in 2014 and targeting critical infrastructure, the framework continues to evolve to meet the changing needs of organizations in the U.S. and around the world. Its popularity stems from its thoroughness, applicability, and approachability.

Our guests today are Ken Durbin, senior strategist for global government affairs and cybersecurity at Symantec, and Allan Liska, senior solutions architect at Recorded Future. They’re going to walk us through the NIST Cybersecurity Framework and help us understand how to make the most of it within our own organizations.

Jun 17, 2019
111 The Threat Intelligence Value Proposition

Joining us today is John TerBush, senior threat intelligence researcher at Recorded Future. John is an instructor with the SANS Institute, currently teaching a course on open source intelligence that he helped develop. Before joining Recorded Future, he was a senior cyber threat intelligence analyst and subject matter expert with consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton’s Cyber4Sight, and before that he worked for Symantec as a security operations center analyst. Earlier in his career, he worked as a researcher and private investigator.

Our conversation explores the value proposition of threat intelligence, and how organizations can dial in how they use it to manage risk, keep their business leaders informed, and get the best bang for their cybersecurity buck.

Jun 10, 2019
110 Advocating OWASP, Securing Elections, and Standing Your Ground

Our guest today is Tanya Janca. She’s a senior cloud advocate at Microsoft, where she specializes in application security. She’s a popular speaker at security conferences around the world, evangelizing software security and advocating for developers. And she’s a leader in the Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) community, as well as an advocate and mentor for underrepresented communities in the security industry.

She discusses her journey from software developer to security practitioner, how “security is everybody’s job” and why that makes strong communication between teams so important, and the need for diversity in the IT industry today.

Jun 03, 2019
109 Applying Threat Intelligence Throughout Your Organization

Threat Intelligence is a wide ranging term, and it can mean different things to different people as they consider the variety of ways to best integrate it into their organization’s cyber defense strategies. In today’s show, we’re exploring the possibilities for leveraging threat intelligence throughout your organization, from the SOC to the board room, from incident response to fraud protection, and much more.

Joining us to guide our journey is Recorded Future’s Mike Petronaci. Before joining Recorded Future, Mike spent time working in the U.S. Department of Defense, as well as with industry leading organizations like Akamai and Cybereason.

May 28, 2019
108 Investing in Technology, Innovative Leaders, and Yourself

Our guest today is Niloofar Razi Howe. She’s a respected technology executive, entrepreneur, board member and investor, having served as Chief Strategy officer for Endgame and, later, RSA Security. She’s a life member of the Council on Foreign relations, and a Recorded Future board member.

Our conversation touches a range of topics, from her start as an attorney and entrepreneur, her shift to venture capital, and her executive level assignments as chief strategy officer. We’ll get her take on where she thinks the VC money will be headed in cyber security, as well as her thoughts on why it’s important to make time for giving back.

May 20, 2019
107 A Risk-Based Approach From Spammers to Nation-States

Our guest today is Martijn Grooten. He’s editor at Virus Bulletin, an online forum for sharing the latest cybersecurity research and intelligence, which dates back to 1989. They’re also an independent testing and certification body, and they hold a popular international security conference annually.

Our conversation spans a range of topics, including the evolution of threats that Martijn has tracked over the past several decades, the current state of malicious email campaigns, why he believes some organizations overstate the potential impact of nation-state attacks, his thoughts on threat intelligence, and his recommendations for how organizations can best protect themselves.

May 13, 2019
106 A Fresh Take on Defining Threat Intelligence

In this episode, we check in with Recorded Future’s Levi Gundert and Allan Liska for a refresher on threat intelligence, including how they have come to describe it and why some people have a hard time wrapping their heads around what, exactly, it is and is not.

We’ll find out whether threat intelligence is for everyone, and if so, how organizations of different sizes can best engage and make use of actionable threat intelligence. And we’ll learn how combining the strengths of human analysts with the capabilities of state-of-the-art machine learning provides the best of both worlds.

May 06, 2019
105 StubHub Leverages Empathy and Emotional Intelligence for Threat Hunting

StubHub is the world’s largest ticket marketplace, where buyers and sellers of tickets for sports, concerts, theater, and other live entertainment events connect and do business. They partner with over a hundred entertainment venues and sports teams, enabling the exchange of hundreds of millions of tickets each year.

With all of that money flowing through their system, they naturally attract their share of fraudsters. One of the people on the front lines protecting StubHub and their users is Sandeep Abraham, StubHub’s only combination threat analyst and investigator. He joins us this week to describe the challenges StubHub faces and how he uses a unique approach of empathy and emotional intelligence, alongside more straightforward threat hunting techniques, to stay one step ahead of the fraudsters.

Apr 29, 2019
104 Information Security Is Not an IT Risk, It's a Business Risk

Our guest today is Brian Haugli. He’s a partner at Side Channel Security, a consulting firm in the Boston area. Prior to forming Side Channel Security, he was chief security officer for The Hanover Insurance Group. Earlier in his career, he held civilian leadership positions at the Pentagon, helping organizations in the Department of Defense implement cybersecurity best practices.

Today, he helps organizations of all sizes to evaluate their security using a risk-based approach, while taking advantage of his own expertise in threat intelligence implementations and strategic organizational initiatives.

Apr 22, 2019
103 Business Outcomes and the CISO's Success

Joining us today is Dana Pickett. He’s CISO for Edwards Performance Solutions, as well as a principal for the cybersecurity services they offer. With over three decades in the industry, Dana has witnessed the inception and evolution of cybersecurity, from mainframes to the IoT.

He shares his thoughts on what it takes to be a successful CISO, the importance of focusing on business outcomes, effective communication with the board, proactive versus reactive threat intelligence, the utility of frameworks, and the value of peer groups.

Apr 15, 2019
102 Approaching Privacy as a Business Plan for Data

Our guest today is Michelle Dennedy. She’s vice president and chief privacy officer for Cisco. An outspoken advocate for building technologies that not only enhance our lives but also promote integrity and respect for people regardless of their level of technical sophistication, Michelle is leading the charge for better understanding and implementation of privacy and data security policies around the world.

Our conversation includes her thoughts on why organizations find privacy so challenging, the differences between aspirational messaging and foundational values, and where she thinks the next generation of security and privacy professionals may take us.

Apr 08, 2019
101 Questions to Ask When Shopping for Threat Intelligence

Our guest today is Brian Martin, vice president of vulnerability intelligence at Risk Based Security, a company that provides risk identification and security management tools leveraging their data-breach and vulnerability intelligence. Brian shares his experience turning data into meaningful, actionable intelligence, common misperceptions he’s encountered along the way, and why he thinks companies shopping around for threat intelligence need to be careful to ask the right questions.

Apr 01, 2019
100 The grugq Illuminates Influence Operations

To celebrate one hundred episodes of our show, we’ve got a special guest this week. The grugq is well-known in hacker and information security circles around the world, and a respected voice at conferences and on social media. He’s a bit mysterious, preferring to keep his real name under wraps. The grugq joins us this week to discuss influence operations — their history, why they work, and how recent examples like the Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. elections might be a sign of things to come.

Mar 25, 2019
099 Chinese Charm Attempts to Alter American Political Opinion

There’s an increasing awareness of foreign influence on American institutions through social media. U.S. intelligence agencies have asserted that Russians made a concerted effort to disrupt and influence the 2016 presidential election, and there’s widespread evidence that Russia continues to sow the seeds of discord with the aim of eroding Westerners’ trust and confidence in their political systems and social norms.

Recorded Future’s Insikt Group recently published findings from their research into Chinese efforts to sway public opinion via social media, and how their goals and tactics are markedly different from those of the Russians.

We welcome back Recorded Future’s Priscilla Moriuchi to the show. She shares Insikt Group’s findings and helps put it all into broader perspective.

Mar 18, 2019
098 Tools, Training, and Threat Intelligence Empower Phishing Defense description

Our guest today is Mollie MacDougall, threat intelligence manager at Cofense, a company that specializes in phishing defense, threat intelligence, and cyber incident response. She shares the story of her unconventional professional journey and the role she plays in coordinating communications between technical and non-technical people in her own organization, as well as her insights on the broad spectrum of phishing threats organizations face, how they are quickly evolving, and the most effective strategies to protect your organization. We’ll talk threat intelligence as well, hearing her thoughts on how to make sure your analysts aren’t getting too much noise in the threat intelligence signal.

Mar 11, 2019
097 Security Needs to Be Easy to Use and Easy to Explain

Our guest today is Chris Betz, senior vice president and chief security officer at CenturyLink. His career journey has led him through a variety of well-known organizations, including the U.S. Air Force, NSA, CBS, Microsoft, Apple, and now CenturyLink. He shares some of the lessons he’s learned along the way, his leadership style, the challenges he sees the industry facing in the near future, as well as his thoughts on threat intelligence and privacy.

Mar 04, 2019
096 Ransomware Trends to Watch in 2019

2018 was an interesting year for ransomware — there were more documented ransomware campaigns than the year before, but there was also a feeling that the focus had shifted to other forms of cybercrime, like cryptojacking.

Our guest today is Allan Liska, senior solutions architect at Recorded Future. He’s the author of a recently published blog post, “4 Ransomware Trends to Watch in 2019.” We discuss the growth of the ransomware market, its impact (or lack thereof), the most effective avenues for ransomware infection, how one strain has found success by bucking the trends, and the increasingly fuzzy line between criminal groups and nation-state actors.

Feb 25, 2019
095 The Challenges of Authentication at Scale and Quantifying Risk

This week, we welcome back Levi Gundert, Recorded Future’s vice president of intelligence and risk. In a wide-ranging conversation, we discuss Insikt Group’s research into APT10, the challenges of authentication at scale, the importance of framing communication in terms of quantifying risk, and what it means to be an ethical hacker. Levi also shares the potential trends he’ll be following in the coming year.

Feb 18, 2019
094 The Value Proposition of Finished Intelligence

On today’s show, we take a closer look at finished intelligence. What are the best ways to define it, who’s the best audience for it, and how can you be sure you’re getting the best bang for your buck when you request it? And what’s the best plan for dialing in finished intelligence when it comes to managing resources and supplementing the other types of intelligence your organization may generate or consume?

Joining us to help answer these questions is David Carver, team lead for subscription services at Recorded Future. He’ll provide practical insights based on his experience collaborating with customers.

Feb 11, 2019
093 Active Threat Hunting Within Your Organization

Our guest today is Mike Morris, chief technology officer at root9B, where he’s chief architect behind the design and integration of their Active Adversary Pursuit threat hunting platform. Mike began his career in the U.S. Air Force and was an integral part of many of the Department of Defense’s pioneering efforts to help protect the nation’s cyber infrastructure. Mike shares the story of his professional journey from the military to the private sector, his philosophy on threat hunting and threat intelligence, how he thinks organizations can best build effective teams, and much more.

Feb 04, 2019
092 Managing Third-Party Risk in Real Time

Many organizations find themselves faced with the challenge of managing third-party risk, working with business partners, vendors, and suppliers to ensure that they are handling security and managing vulnerabilities at an acceptable level. Traditionally, this has been accomplished through static assessments — snapshots of a security posture at a specific moment in time — done at regular intervals. There are limitations to this approach, since businesses don’t operate in static environments, and things change in real time.

Our guest today is Jon Oltsik, senior principal analyst and ESG fellow at the Enterprise Strategy Group. He’s author of a recently published study, “Third-Party Risk: Why Real-Time Intelligence Matters.”

Jan 28, 2019
091 NopSec Analyzes the NVD for Their Annual Risk and Vulnerability Report

Each year, security firm NopSec publishes their annual State of Vulnerability Risk Management Report, analyzing all of the vulnerabilities listed in the National Vulnerability Database, the NVD, along with those uploaded to their own platform by their clients. They consider a number of factors, including CVSS score, description, type, and vendor affected, to see which factors contribute to vulnerabilities being incorporated into malware and exploited in the wild.

For this year’s report, NopSec invited Recorded Future to contribute their unique insights into how geopolitics affect government run vulnerability databases.

Joining us today are Sanja Nedic, data scientist at NopSec, and Adrian Sanabria, VP of strategy and product marketing at NopSec.

Jan 21, 2019
090 Secure Identity and Access Management

Our guest today is Robb Reck, chief information security officer at Ping Identity. With nearly 20 years of experience in IT security, compliance, and systems and networking, Robb has witnessed the evolution of the space. He shares his professional journey, his management style and philosophy when it comes to hiring, and where he sees the intersection of identity management and threat intelligence.

We’ll hear about his role with Ping Identity, protecting the organization and its customers, and where he sees identity management and access control heading in the future, as sensitive data flows more freely between organizations, individuals, and third parties.

Jan 14, 2019
089 Putting Artificial Intelligence to Work

Our guest this week is Thomas H. Davenport. He’s a world-renowned thought leader and author, and is the president’s distinguished professor of information technology and management at Babson College, a fellow of the MIT Center for Digital Business, and an independent senior advisor to Deloitte Analytics.

Tom Davenport is author and co-author of 15 books and more than 100 articles. He helps organizations to revitalize their management practices in areas such as analytics, information and knowledge management, process management, and enterprise systems. His most recent book is “The AI Advantage: How to Put the Artificial Intelligence Revolution to Work (Management on the Cutting Edge).”

Returning to the show to join the discussion is Recorded Future’s chief data scientist, Bill Ladd.

Jan 07, 2019
088 Pioneering Proactive Approaches to Power Protection

Schneider Electric is a global energy management and automation company headquartered in France, employing over 144,000 people around the world. With a history dating back to the 1830s, these days Schneider Electric enjoys success in industrial control systems, industrial safety systems, electric power distribution and grid automation, smart grid technology, and data center power and cooling.

Our guest today is Andrew Kling, senior director of cybersecurity and system architecture at Schneider Electric. He shares his professional journey, his experience pioneering many of the security measures we take for granted today, the shift to being proactive in his sector, and the importance of threat intelligence.

Dec 31, 2018
087 Leadership and Buy-In Help Protect BT's Global Networks

BT is a global telecommunications giant, headquartered in London with over 100,000 employees all over the world. In addition to telephone services in Great Britain, BT provides broadband internet, fiber-optic communications, digital television, and even supply chain management services. They also provide IT and network security services.

Our guest today is Mark Hughes, who served as the CEO of BT Security from 2013 to 2018. He oversaw the security of BT’s internal networks and assets, as well as the services they provide to outside clients. He shares with us his techniques for building effective, collaborative security teams, how he earns buy-in from both his colleagues and his board of directors, and the importance of threat intelligence. He’ll also share his experience gearing up for the 2012 London Olympic Games, and why he thinks it was a milestone moment for cybersecurity.

Dec 17, 2018
086 Bringing Collaboration to Real-Time Data Feeds

Our guest today is Aaron Gee-Clough. He’s chief technology officer for King & Union, a company that aims to bring increased collaboration to threat intelligence analysts, allowing them to more easily visualize and manage threat data in real time.

We discuss the benefits and challenges in bringing meaningful, actionable threat intelligence to small and mid-sized organizations, what he thinks machine learning can and cannot bring to the table, the distinction between threat intelligence and lists of bad IPs, and how many organizations are already exercising their impulse to collaborate and share information, even if they’re doing it in unofficial or inefficient ways.

Dec 10, 2018
085 Controlling Online Access in Yemen's War Zone

Recorded Future’s Insikt Group recently published research titled “Underlying Dimensions of Yemen’s Civil War: Control of the Internet.” It’s a detailed analysis of the role the internet has played in this ongoing bloody conflict, as rival factions fight to gain control of information, access, and infrastructure. Local and international interests all come in to play.

Here to guide us through the research are Recorded Future’s Winnona DeSombre, threat intelligence researcher, and Greg Lesnewich, threat intelligence analyst.

Dec 03, 2018
084 Bringing Intelligence Community Experience to the Private Sector

Our guest today is Jason Kichen. He’s director of cybersecurity services at Versive, a cybersecurity company that delivers advanced threat detection and automation.

Prior to Versive, Jason spent nearly 15 years in the U.S. Intelligence Community as an expert in technical and offensive cyber operations. He was responsible for the design and execution of advanced technical operations all over the world. He has two Director of National Intelligence Meritorious Unit Citations and a National Intelligence Professional Award from the National Counterproliferation Center.

We’ll learn about his experience in the intelligence community, how it differs from the private sector, and the challenges he faced transitioning between the two. We’ll get his take on threat intelligence and how he thinks organizations can build effective security teams.

Nov 26, 2018
083 The What? So What? and the Why? Why? Why?

Today we welcome Maggie McDaniel, senior director of Insikt Group at Recorded Future. She’s had leadership positions in the U.S. government intelligence community, as well as the financial services sector.

We’ll be discussing her recent blog post, “Communicating Threat Intelligence Relevance.” In it, she describes a framework that helps get to the core of what matters, helps explain what it means for your organization, and provides justification to the powers that be, all while improving communications throughout the company.

Nov 19, 2018
082 Bringing Government Experience to Financial Services Security

Joining us today is Derrick Pendleton. He’s a senior digital forensic incident response analyst at Legg Mason in Baltimore. He shares his experience cutting his teeth on security within the federal government, the specific benefits he believes that environment provided, and how he’s brought those skills to his work protecting the employees, partners, and customers of Legg Mason, one of the largest asset management firms in the world.

We’ll get his take on threat intelligence and incident response, as well as his words of wisdom for folks looking to get a start in the security business.

Nov 12, 2018
081 Thwarting Organized Crime and Protecting Major Telecoms

Our guest today is Dale Drew. He’s chief security officer at Zayo Group, a global provider of communications, colocation, and cloud infrastructure. Previously, he’s held leadership positions at some of the largest and most influential telecommunications companies in the world, including CenturyLink, Level 3 Communications, and MCI Communications.

He shares the story of his unlikely start in the security industry, sparked by a stolen family checkbook, which led to a position with the Arizona Attorney General’s office, working to fight organized crime and racketeering.

We’ll get his views on threat intelligence, and we’ll learn why he’s leading an effort to champion open source tools in the industry.

Nov 05, 2018
080 Blending Threat Intelligence With Cyber Risk Frameworks

Our guest today is Rick Tracy. He’s chief security officer at Telos, a cybersecurity, IT risk management and compliance, secure mobility, and identity management company. In addition to his duties as CSO, Rick is co-inventor of Xacta, a cyber risk management platform.

Rick shares his experience from over three decades in the industry, his thoughts on regulations like GDPR and what we might expect to see here in the U.S., how he handles briefing his board of directors, the helpful utility of the NIST framework, and how threat intelligence can inform an organization’s approach to managing risk.

Oct 29, 2018
079 Advanced Security Tactics From Down Under

Joining us today is Nicolas Cairns, director of Aegis 9 Security Intelligence, a cybersecurity firm located in Canberra, Australia. In his career, Nicolas has worked in both offensive and defensive cybersecurity operations, threat intelligence, malware analysis, digital forensics and incident response, as well as threat and risk assessment.

He shares his experience building a career in security, transitioning from the military to the private sector, having a hand in Australia’s first intelligence collection system, and working as a pen tester. Throughout it all, his career has been marked by a strong work ethic and desire to keep learning, to keep improving, and to put in the extra time and effort. We’ll hear his thoughts on threat intelligence, specifically how organizations can best manage the growing volume of information available, and how to best transform that information into actionable intelligence.

Oct 22, 2018
078 Intelligence Sharing to Protect Ourselves and Each Other

Our guest today is Paul Kurtz. He’s the co-founder and CEO of TruSTAR Technology, a company that develops collaborative intelligence-sharing platforms with the goal of streamlining the distribution of actionable information for cybersecurity professionals.

Paul Kurtz began working in cybersecurity at the White House in the late 1990s, and later served in senior positions relating to critical infrastructure and counterterrorism on the White House's National Security and Homeland Security Councils under Presidents Clinton and Bush.

We’ll hear his views on information sharing and threat intelligence, and we’ll find out why he thinks that we may not be able to count on the government to protect us in the cyber realm.

Oct 15, 2018
077 Threat Intelligence by the Book

The Recorded Future team is proud to have recently published its first book, “The Threat Intelligence Handbook — A Practical Guide for Security Teams to Unlocking the Power of Intelligence.” The book aims to provide readers with the information they’ll need to integrate threat intelligence into their organizations, to ensure that it’s actionable, and to put it in the hands of people who can most effectively make use of it.

Joining us once again is Recorded Future’s Chris Pace, who served as editor of the new book. He’ll take us through the process he and his colleagues went through to organize and write it, and why he believes the book is valuable for those both new to threat intelligence and the more experienced readers as well.


Oct 08, 2018
076 Infect Others With Your Security Passion

Our guest today is Tod Beardsley. He’s director of research at Rapid7, a cybersecurity company providing technology, services, and research to organizations around the world. Tod manages software vulnerability research efforts at Rapid7, handles vulnerability disclosures, contributes to Rapid7's data science-driven research projects, and serves as the primary spokesperson for Rapid7 on security and research topics in the media and on podcasts like this one.

Tod shares his professional journey, his views on the challenges facing the cybersecurity industry, his take on threat intelligence, and his belief that, as professionals, we share a responsibility for instilling our sense of passion for security in our friends and families.

Oct 01, 2018
075 Dr. Johannes Ullrich and the SANS Internet Storm Center

The SANS Institute is a well-known and respected cooperative research and education organization. Since its founding in 1989, it’s worked with over 165,000 security professionals around the world, providing training and certification. It also provides free access to a huge library of research documents about information security, and it runs the Internet Storm Center, which it describes as the internet’s early warning system.

Our guest today is Dr. Johannes Ullrich, and he’s responsible for that early warning system. He’s a popular public speaker and host of the ISC StormCast daily podcast, a daily briefing of cybersecurity news that professionals around the world rely on to stay up to date.

Sep 24, 2018
074 Fears of GDPR-Triggered Spam So Far Unfounded

Chances are you’re familiar with GDPR, the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation. It went into full effect back in May of this year, with the goal of improving the privacy and security of European citizens in particular, but the global community overall as well.

One of the impacts of GDPR was that it made the WHOIS database private. WHOIS is the searchable online directory of domain name registrations, and some security researchers had concerns that spammers might take advantage of this anonymity to increase their registration rate of domain names, making it easier for them to send out their spam.

Allan Liska is a senior security architect at Recorded Future and analyzed several months’ worth of data on spam rates to see if the expected uptick came to pass. Allan wasn’t alone on this project — he had assistance from his son, Bruce, who interned at Recorded Future this past summer and co-authored the report. We’ll hear from Bruce as well.

Sep 17, 2018
073 Protecting the Brand, Products and People at Perdue Farms

Perdue Farms is a major U.S. agricultural business, best known for its processing of chicken, turkey, and pork, and is one the nation’s top providers of grain. Founded nearly a century ago as a “mom-and-pop” business with a small flock of chickens, today the company marks sales in excess of $6.5 billion a year and has over 20,000 employees.

Chris Wolski is head of information security and data protection at Perdue Farms, and he joins us to describe the unique intersection of cyber and physical systems he and his team help protect.

Sep 10, 2018
072 Russia's Vulnerability Database Focuses Inward

Researchers from Recorded Future’s Insikt Group have previously analyzed both the U.S. and Chinese national vulnerability databases, examining the speed of publication of cybersecurity vulnerabilities, and how each respective country considers its NVD in the broader context of the national mission of cyber defense and operations. Recorded Future’s research team recently set their investigative sights on Russia’s vulnerability database to see how it compares.

Priscilla Moriuchi is director of strategic threat development at Recorded Future, and she joins us to share what they found.

Sep 04, 2018
071 A European View of Cyber Security

We’ve got a special episode of the Recorded Future podcast for this week. Staffan Truvé, Recorded Future’s CTO and co-founder, returns to the show to lead a conversation with our guest Rolf Rosenvinge. Rolf is CEO of RCG – CyberInsights, a Stockholm-based cybersecurity management consulting firm. He shares his views on the state of cybersecurity in the EU; the effects GDPR is having; the evolving relationship between CTOs, CISOs, and boards; and the role of threat intelligence as we look toward the future.

Aug 27, 2018
070 Chinese Espionage Activity Tracks Economic Development Efforts

Researchers from Recorded Future’s Insikt Group have been tracking new malware targeting the Tibetan community, continuing an ongoing effort by the Chinese state to use cyberespionage to keep tabs on perceived domestic threats. They’ve uncovered a sophisticated new backdoor with some peculiar characteristics, and also concluded that many of these activities are being originated from servers located at a major Chinese research university.

Winnona DeSombre and Sanil Chohan, threat intelligence researchers at Recorded Future, are co-authors of the report “Chinese Cyberespionage Originating from Tsinghua University Infrastructure,” along with their colleague Justin Grosfelt. Winnona and Sanil are our guests today, and they’ll take us through what they’ve learned.

Aug 20, 2018
069 A CISO's Journey From City to the Private Sector

Our guest is Gary Hayslip. He’s vice president and chief information security officer at Webroot, a cybersecurity and threat intelligence company. Prior to joining Webroot he was the CISO for the city of San Diego, and before that served active duty with the U.S. Navy and as a U.S. Federal Government employee.

He’s the author of the "CISO Desk Reference Guide," and is an active cyber evangelist and popular keynote speaker.

He shares his thoughts on team building, recruiting talent in a highly competitive jobs market, and the importance of actionable threat intelligence.

Aug 13, 2018
068 Protecting Missiles From Malware

Raytheon is one of the largest defense contractors in the world, with over 60 thousand employees and annual revenues near $25 billion. They’ve been in business for nearly a hundred years, with humble beginnings in vacuum tube manufacturing, RADAR systems and microwaves during World War II, and post-war expansions into everything from missiles and aircraft to refrigeration and robotics.

Our guest today is Michael Daly, chief technology officer for cybersecurity at Raytheon. He shares his experiences spinning up a cybersecurity team at Raytheon, the challenges of doing so within such a large organization, and the importance of a strong corporate culture to ensure safety and security.


Aug 06, 2018
067 Quantifying Cyber Risk

This week we’re joined by Alexander Schlager, executive director of security services at Verizon. He has experience in both the technical and sales sides of the communications and security worlds, having gained experience in a variety of positions around the globe. Our conversation focuses on his belief that organizations need to concentrate on quantifying their cyber risk, and using what they learn to evaluate and plan their security programs. He explains why Verizon invests in reports like the DBIR and the Verizon Risk Report, and of course, we’ll get his take on the importance of threat intelligence.

Jul 30, 2018
066 Securing Your Firmware

These days, most of us have a pretty good handle on protecting the software our computers run from viruses and other types of malware. We’re careful about downloading and installing software from unknown, insecure sources, and run antivirus applications to help keep everything safe. But what about the system-level code that runs deep within the devices we rely on every day? What about the firmware?

Our guest today is Terry Dunlap. He’s CEO and co-founder of ReFirm Labs, a tech startup that’s focused on firmware — analyzing the code and helping manufacturers, organizations, and governments ensure their devices haven’t been compromised. He’s got a colorful history that includes teenage hacking, time at the NSA, and the founding of several companies.


Jul 23, 2018
065 Enabling Deeper Board-Level Understanding

Our guest today is Bryan Littlefair. He’s CEO at Cambridge Cyber Advisers, and previously held the Global CISO position at Aviva and Vodafone Group. His current focus is working with board-level executives to enable a deeper understanding of cybersecurity and how it relates to business risk. He shares his thoughts on the communications gap between IT professionals and board members, effective ways to overcome it, and the importance of threat intelligence in gauging risk and setting priorities.

Jul 16, 2018
064 How to Keep Finished Intelligence Fresh

Our guest today is Storm Swendsboe. He’s an analyst services manager at Recorded Future, leading a team of intelligence analysts providing on-demand reports for their customers. In our conversation he explains the different types of reports his team provides, with a focus on finished intelligence. Swendsboe answers questions like where does finished intelligence it fits in an organization’s threat intelligence strategy? How it can be customized for specific audiences? And how to make sure a report doesn’t quickly become out of date the moment it’s published.  

Jul 09, 2018
063 Protecting Critical Infrastructure

Our guest today is Joe Slowik. He works in adversary hunting and threat intelligence at Dragos, a company specializing in securing industrial control systems and critical infrastructure. He shares the story of his unconventional path to a career in security, including time in the U.S. Navy and at Los Alamos National Labs, where protecting scientists, engineers, and researchers presented its own unique set of challenges. He shares his informed opinions on threat intelligence, with tips on how, in his view, many organizations could benefit from adjusting their focus and their approach.

Jul 02, 2018
062 Securing the C-Suite

In this episode of the Recorded Future podcast, we explore the unique challenges associated with securing your C-Suite executives. Not only are they attractive targets for scammers and fraudsters, when it comes to security, they’re often afforded a level of flexibility and deference not given to other employees. What’s the most effective approach for educating executives on the critical role of security, and how do you extend that behavior beyond the office walls? In a world where business email compromise and phishing run rampant and attacks happen at the hardware DNA level, translating security strategy to the common language of risk management can be an effective approach.

Joining us once again to address these questions is Dr. Christopher Pierson, CEO at Binary Sun Cyber Risk Advisors.

Jun 25, 2018
061 How to Empower Teams With Threat Intelligence

In this episode of the Recorded Future podcast, we examine how threat intelligence applies to a variety of roles within an organization, and how security professionals can integrate it to empower their team to operate with greater speed and efficiency. How does threat intelligence apply to SOCs, to incident response, or vulnerability management? And how do corporate leaders make the case that threat intelligence is a worthwhile investment?

Joining us to address these questions is Chris Pace, technology advocate at Recorded Future.

Jun 18, 2018
060 Optimizing the Intelligence Cycle at Optum

Our guest today is Vince Peeler. He’s the manager of cyber intelligence services at Optum, one of the largest healthcare and services providers in the world. He shares his unlikely journey from a career as a naval aviator to cybersecurity, and how lessons he learned in the military help inform his approach to cyber threats today. We’ll also focus on the intelligence cycle, and the role it can play in organizing and focusing the efforts of cybersecurity teams. He offers tips on integrating threat intelligence, and making the most of automation to enable your analysts to maximize their effectiveness.

Jun 11, 2018
059 Keeping Verizon's DBIR Trusted and Relevant

Each year Verizon publishes its Data Breach Investigation Report, or DBIR, the annual survey of the state of cybersecurity using data gathered from tens of thousands of incidents from around the world. It’s earned a reputation as a must-read report, for its thoroughness and approachability.

Marc Spitler is a senior manager of Verizon Security Research, and one of the lead authors of the report. He joins us to share the behind-the-scenes story of what goes into the DBIR, how his team chooses the year’s hot topics, and how they protect their efforts from undo influence.


Jun 04, 2018
058 McAfee's Steve Povolny Leads Threat Research

Our guest today is Steve Povolny, head of advanced threat research at McAfee. We’ll learn how he came to lead his team of researchers at the well-known security company, his philosophy on leadership, and why investing in research makes sense for McAfee (and most companies). We’ll also cover how to strike a balance between maintaining a healthy competitive advantage in the marketplace, while contributing to the larger threat research community and helping to make the world a safer place. He shares his thoughts on threat intelligence, why he believes it’s grown in importance for most organizations, and we’ll get his advice on choosing what kinds of services you might need.

May 29, 2018
057 ICS Security Concerns Explained

Our guest today is Joe Weiss. He’s the managing partner of Applied Control Solutions, a firm that provides consulting services to optimize and secure industrial control systems. He’s been in the industry for over 40 years and has earned a reputation as an outspoken and sometimes contrarian advocate for improved ICS security. He’s been a featured speaker at dozens of conferences, has written countless book and articles, and has testified before Congress multiple times.

Our conversation centers on what he sees as critical shortcomings in the current approach to securing critical infrastructure, including the electrical grid, manufacturing, railways, and water supplies. Are IT and OT professionals simply talking past each other, or is there more to it than that? Joe Weiss has strong opinions on that and many other topics, opinions formed from a long, fruitful career fighting to keep those systems safe.

May 21, 2018
056 Iran Retaliation Likely After Nuclear Deal Dropped

For the past six month or so, researchers in Recorded Future’s Insikt Group have been dissecting the structure of cyber operations groups within the Islamic Republic of Iran. In recent years that nation has regularly used offensive cyber campaigns in response to sanctions or other provocations. On May 8, 2018, President Trump announced the U.S. will withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal, leading to concerns that Iran is likely to respond with cyberattacks on Western businesses.

Levi Gundert joins us once again to provide context to the situation. He’s one of the authors of a newly published report from Recorded Future, titled, “Iran’s Hacker Hierarchy Exposed.” The report describes a culture of distrust and a tension between the desire for technical capabilities versus religiosity.

May 14, 2018
055 Former GCHQ Andy France Targets Big Cyber Problems

We welcome cybersecurity leader and entrepreneur Andy France, in a conversation led by Recorded Future Co-Founder and CEO Christopher Ahlberg. Andy France’s career in cybersecurity spans over four decades, including positions as the deputy director of cyber defense for the UK government, along with positions at Darktrace, Deloitte, GSK, and Lloyds Banking Group. He serves on a number of cybersecurity advisory boards, and is currently the co-founder and director at Prevalent AI.

Andy France addresses the “big-picture” items in cybersecurity, considering what it might take to fix, once and for all, the fundamental issues security professionals face. He considers the often-used comparison of cybersecurity to public health, and provides advice on effective implementation of threat intelligence.

May 07, 2018
054 NYC CISO Geoff Brown on Public Privacy and Security

This week we welcome back to our show Geoff Brown, chief information security officer for the City of New York. In a city with 8 million citizens that’s also a global center of commerce, innovation, and tourism, protecting the public when they use publicly available online resources is an effort toward making everyone safer.

New York City’s leadership is in the process of implementing a new initiative they’re calling “NYC Secure” that aims to better protect the city’s residents, workers, and visitors from cyber threats. Geoff Brown describes the new initiative, and explains how it could serve as a model for other municipalities and communities around the world.


Apr 30, 2018
053 The Importance of Adversarial Focus

Our guest today is Greg Reith. Greg began his career with U.S. Army Special Forces with a specialty in operations and intelligence. His experience includes counter intelligence, analysis, and collection at both tactical and strategic levels. At the end of his career in the military, he transitioned into Information Technology and was an information systems security officer. Most recently, Greg led the T-Mobile threat intelligence team as a senior security engineer and developed the T-Mobile threat intelligence strategy.

We’ll learn about his career, get his thoughts on leadership and assembling teams, and how he’s learned to integrate threat intelligence into his work. He’ll also describe a technique called “adversarial focus.” We’ll learn what that is and why it’s important to understand.


Apr 23, 2018
052 7 of the Top 10 Vulnerabilities Target Microsoft

Researchers at Recorded Future recently published a report titled, “The Top 10 Vulnerabilities Used by Cybercriminals.” The report reveals that seven out of the top 10 most exploited vulnerabilities in 2017 targeted Microsoft products.

We’ve got pair of experts from Recorded Future to take us through their findings. Scott Donnelly, vice president of technical solutions, looks at the technical side of the research and what the findings represent in terms of trends. A little later in the podcast we’ll hear from Adrian Porcescu, EMEA professional services manager, for his take on the practical implications of the report’s findings, and how organizations can use this information for setting priorities and planning their defenses.

Apr 16, 2018
051 Graham Cluley on Privacy, IoT Risks, and Ransomware

Graham Cluley is well known in the cybersecurity industry as a popular speaker, writer, independent security analyst, and cohost of the Smashing Security podcast. He’s had senior roles at Sophos and McAfee, and is a member of the Infosecurity Europe Hall of Fame.

He joins us this week for a wide-ranging conversation, including his humble beginnings writing software to protect against malware before that was really even a thing, his thoughts on the latest trends and techniques the bad guys are using, and how we as a community should protect ourselves against them. And, of course, we get his take on threat intelligence, and why he thinks it’s playing an ever-increasing role as organizations stand up their cyber defense strategies.

Apr 09, 2018
050 CSO Jim Routh Leads Aetna’s Pioneering Security Team

Jim Routh is chief security officer of Aetna, a Fortune 500 company offering health care, dental, pharmacy, group life, disability, and long-term care insurance and employee benefits. With annual revenue exceeding 60 billion dollars and nearly 50 thousand employees, there’s a lot to secure.

In this episode, we explore Jim Routh’s career path, the unique challenges he faces as CSO for such a large public company, how he delegates authority and manages his time, his approach to threat intelligence, and his somewhat contrary approach to communicating risk with the Aetna board. We learn about Aetna’s move away from using Social Security numbers as identifiers, as well as their efforts to phase out traditional password-based user logins, all in the name of improving customer convenience and security. He also explains his adoption of model-driven security and the rise of unconventional controls.


Apr 02, 2018
049 Optiv’s Stu Solomon on Threat Intelligence in a Changing Industry

Christopher Ahlberg is CEO of Recorded Future, and this week he leads a conversation with Stu Solomon, chief technology and strategy officer at Optiv, a leading provider of end-to-end cybersecurity solutions.

It’s a wide-ranging discussion, exploring Stu’s experience as a long-time cybersecurity professional, including time in the military, along with his thoughts on effective hiring practices, the changes he’s seen in the industry, the differences between being a great consumer or producer of intel, and where he sees things heading in the future. Stu shares his thoughts on threat intelligence, including thought-provoking views on what to include in threat intelligence reports, how to cut through the noise, and the swinging pendulum of cybersecurity tradecraft.


Mar 25, 2018
048 Resiliency in the Face of High-Profile Breaches and Trendy Threats

There’s a natural tendency, not just in cyber security, to be drawn to bright, shiny objects. If you’re a security professional, you’ve likely had to respond to questions from management and your coworkers about the latest high-profile breach or ransomware incident. For sure, that’s part of the job, but how do you make sure you’re not spending too much time reacting to the latest threat, when you could be strengthening your internal resiliency plans? On today’s episode of the Recorded Future podcast, we address the downside of headline chasing, and the need for resiliency within security, so that basic, fundamental tasks don’t lead to mass chaos within organizations.

We’ve got two guests today, Zak and Ryan. They are both high-level security professionals at a major financial services organization, and in order to minimize the number of hoops they’d have to jump through to get permission from their employer to appear on our show, we’re going to respect their request to keep things on a first name basis.

Mar 19, 2018
047 Chinese Government Alters Threat Database Records

In episode 29 of this podcast we heard from Bill Ladd, Chief Data Scientist at Recorded Future, about the differences between the US and Chinese cyber threat vulnerability reporting systems. He pointed out the difference in speed-of-publishing between the two, with the Chinese generally being faster, as well as their conclusion that the Chinese National Vulnerability Database (CNNVD) is essentially a shell for the Chinese MSS, the Ministry of State Security. This being the case, there’s evidence that the Chinese evaluate high-threat vulnerabilities for their potential operational utility before releasing them for publication.

Since then, researchers at Recorded Future have taken another look at the CNNVD and discovered the outright manipulation of publication dates of vulnerabilities. Priscilla Moriuchi is Director of Strategic Threat Development at Recorded Future, and along with Bill Ladd she’s coauthor of their research analysis, “Chinese Government Alters Threat Database Records.” She joins us to discuss their findings, and their broader implications.

Mar 09, 2018
046 False Flags From Olympic Destroyer

The 2018 Olympic Games in PyeongChang recently concluded, but not without attempts at disruption from cyberattackers. A major telecom and IT provider was targeted with a multi-pronged campaign to gather credentials, move laterally within networks, and destroy data. It borrows bits of code from previously known campaigns, and was an aggressive effort to spread quickly and cause maximum damage to systems.

Greg Lesnewich is a threat intelligence analyst with Recorded Future’s Insikt Group, and he joins us to provide an overview of the malware campaign named Olympic Destroyer. We’ll get technical details, as well as a sense for why attribution is notoriously difficult in cases like this, and whether or not we’re seeing evidence of a false flag operation.


Mar 05, 2018
045 McAfee's Michael Rea on Managing Formal Intelligence Requirements

Our guest today is Michael Rea. He’s a threat intelligence professional currently working at McAfee. He’s got prior experience in the US Navy, serving at sea and at shore, including positions at Cyber Command and NSA. We’ll discuss his career, how threat intelligence differs between the military and the private sector, and why it’s valuable to formalize the management of your threat intelligence requirements, how best to do that, and why that helps make IT teams more effective. He explains the importance of identifying the use case for threat intelligence, and how to best cut through marketing noise and hype to make sure your threat intelligence provider aligns with your organization’s needs.

Feb 26, 2018
044 Takeaways From the Gartner Threat Intelligence Market Guide

The research and advisory firm Gartner recently took a closer look at security threat intelligence, and published a comprehensive report with their findings, the Gartner Market Guide for Security Threat Intelligence Products and Services. The report explains the different use cases for threat intelligence, makes recommendations for how best to implement it in your organization, and provides guidance on evaluating vendors.

In this episode of the Recorded Future podcast we are joined once again by Allan Liska, senior threat intelligence analyst at Recorded Future, to walk through some of the key takeaways from the Gartner report, and to see how the report aligns with Allan’s experience.

You can download a free copy of the report at:

Feb 19, 2018
043 Litecoin Set to Leapfrog Leading Cryptocurrencies

You’d have to be living under a virtual rock to not have noticed that virtual currencies like Bitcoin have taken off, attracting investors, speculators, and, of course, criminals, all looking to profit from the enthusiasm surrounding these cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin has been the gold standard in online currency exchange for bad guys, but its surging popularity has led to recent slowdowns in transaction processing speed and increased transaction fees. This has prompted criminals to start looking elsewhere, to other virtual currencies like Dash, Monero, and Litecoin.

Andrei Barysevich is Recorded Future’s director of advanced collection, and he’s the co-author of a recent blog post titled, “Litecoin Emerges as the Next Dominant Dark Web Currency.” He’ll take us through the research from Recorded Future’s Insikt Group explaining what factors cause groups of online fraudsters to switch from one cryptocurrency to another.

Feb 12, 2018
042 Understanding Your Environment and Communicating the Threat

Building a successful threat intelligence operation and team involves many important considerations. What are your organizations critical assets, who are your potential adversaries, and how do you best communicate with the rest of your organization to ensure your efforts are properly focused and your conclusions properly understood and implemented?
Our guest today is AJ Nash. He’s the cyber threat intelligence evangelist and manager of intelligence services at Symantec. It’s a big company, offering a diverse array of cybersecurity products and services, with some well-known brands like Norton and LifeLock, as well as threat intelligence products and services.

Our conversation covers a wide range of topics, including the foundations of intelligence and the intelligence life cycle, the challenges of moving from the military to the private sector, leadership styles, and how to be sure you’re asking the right questions when it comes to threat intelligence.

Feb 05, 2018
041 Where Does a SIEM Fit In?

In today’s episode, we’re talking SIEMs. That’s short for security information and event management, and it typically describes software or services that provide real-time logging and analysis of security alerts. A SIEM gathers information from a variety of network software and devices and correlates, aggregates, and alerts users of issues requiring attention. They can monitor and manage user access privileges, help with compliance through the automated gathering of relevant data, and provide users with the ability to aggregate and analyze log files that might be spread across the network.

Monzy Merza is head of security research at Splunk, a well-known SIEM provider, and he joins us to share his thoughts on SIEMs, how they fit into the security lifecycle, where threat intelligence comes in, and how successful organizations are best utilizing them.

Jan 29, 2018
040 North Korea Targets South Korean Cryptocurrency

Facing sanctions from much of the rest of the world, North Korea has turned to cybercrime to help finance their operations. The Lazarus Group is well known as a state-sponsored team of criminal hackers serving North Korean interests, and in 2017 they set their sights on cryptocurrency users and exchanges in South Korea with a spear phishing campaign. Additionally, they’ve targeted South Korean college students interested in foreign affairs, part of a group called “Friends of MOFA” (Ministry of Foreign Affairs).

Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade is a principal security researcher for Recorded Future’s Insikt Group, and he joins us to help explain what the North Koreans are up to, the methods and tools they are using, just how sophisticated they may or may not be, and why, in the end, sophistication might not really matter much.

Jan 22, 2018
039 Protecting Philips Healthcare From Cyber Threats

Philips is a company with a long, storied history, going back over 120 years, and many technological achievements to brag about. From light bulbs to radios, consumer devices like electric shavers, the compact cassette, and the co-invention of the compact disc along with Sony, they’ve been an innovative, influential company for generations.

These days, Philips primarily focuses on healthcare, and they employ over 100,000 people in 60 countries.

Praveen Sharma is one of those employees, and our guest today. She’s the director of the cyber research and development center at Philips Healthcare, where she leads a team responsible for developing in-house tools and concepts that help Philips rapidly detect and respond to existing and emerging threats. She is also responsible for looking at the cyber technologies that are on the horizon and the risks of these technologies to Philips.

Jan 15, 2018
038 The 5 Most Relevant Questions for a SOC Analyst

Our guest today is Denver Durham. He’s a threat intelligence consultant at Recorded Future, with a background in the U.S. Army as an intelligence analyst, working in signals intel and all-source intel supporting counterterrorism,and later in the private sector in a SOC (security operations center) as a cyber threat analyst, performing attribution and analytics.

On today’s show, he takes us through what he believes are some of the most relevant questions for a SOC analyst, including collecting and prioritizing indicators of compromise, handling news feeds, managing firewall alerts, and performing trend analysis. We’ll learn about the types of reports a SOC analyst is likely to generate, how to make good use of some third-party rules, and he’ll share his advice for anyone considering a career as a SOC analyst.

Jan 08, 2018
037 2017 Cybersecurity in Review and Predictions for the New Year

Whether you felt 2017 flew by or you just couldn’t wait for it to be over, from a cybersecurity point of view there’s no question it was an interesting year. There was something for everyone, including ransomware, botnets, major data breaches, IoT issues, as well as business and policy concerns.

Our guest today is Dr. Chris Pierson. He’s the CEO and founder of Binary Sun Cyber Risk Advisors, and a familiar voice for those of us who follow cybersecurity. Dr. Pierson serves on the Department of Homeland Security’s Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee and Cybersecurity Subcommittee and is a distinguished fellow of the Ponemon Institute. 

Together, we’ll take a look back at 2017 and try to make sense of what it all means as we head into the new year, what 2018 may have in store for the cybersecurity industry, and how best to prepare.

Jan 02, 2018
036 Dispelling Cybersecurity Myths

In this episode, we have a conversation with Gavin Reid, chief security architect at Recorded Future. Before joining Recorded Future, he helped design the systems that protect organizations like NASA, Cisco, and Fidelity. We’ll get his take on the state of the industry, and why he believes there are a number of cybersecurity myths that are in need of being dispelled, including the notion that companies need to “do more with less.” Are boards of directors finally getting up to speed and recognizing the realities of their defensive postures? What are some of the most effective ways to make sure the basics are being taken care of, all while managing the practical challenges of the busy day-to-day demands of a modern corporate environment? The tools are available, according to Reid. The trick is knowing how to best implement them.

Dec 18, 2017
035 Predicting Future Threats With Machine Learning

In this episode, we take a closer look at some of the specifics of artificial intelligence and machine learning, and how cybersecurity professionals can benefit from including these tools in their threat intelligence arsenals. We’ll discuss clustering, natural language processing or NLP, and supervised learning, and we’ll find out why combining the talents of humans with the speed and analytical capabilities of computers, the so-called digital centaurs, could provide even more powerful solutions in the future.

Joining us are two experts in machine learning. Christopher Sestito is manager of threat intelligence at Cylance, a company that’s all-in when it comes to AI technology, and Staffan Truvé, co-founder and chief technology officer at Recorded Future.

4 Ways Machine Learning Is Powering Smarter Threat Intelligence
By Staffan Truvé

Dec 11, 2017
034 ICS is Serious Business, But There's No Need to Panic

There’s been a good bit of attention aimed at Industrial Control Systems (ICS), lately, the systems that monitor and help keep our critical infrastructure running. The electrical grid tends to get the most attention, but ICS includes water, dams, communications systems, pipelines, natural gas, transportation, and other process control systems. As more and more of these systems get connected to the internet they can make an attractive target for cyber criminals or state actors who are up to no good.  

Our guest this week is Robert M. Lee. He’s CEO at Dragos , a company dedicated to the security of critical systems. Before Dragos he was in the U.S. Air Force, where he served as a Cyber Warfare Operations Officer in the U.S. Intelligence Community.

Dec 04, 2017
033 AI, Robots, and Cyborgs — Inside IoT with Chris Poulin

In this episode of the Recorded Future podcast we take a closer look at the Internet of Things (IoT). It’s a wide-ranging category, spanning everything from connected thermostats, refrigerators, and security cameras to industrial control systems, self-driving cars, and medical devices. It’s hardly an exaggeration to say that if a device has a power source, somebody is thinking up a way to connect it to the internet. And with that comes opportunities for improving our lives and the world we live in, as well as risks to our security and privacy.

Our guest this week is Chris Poulin. He’s a principal at Booz Allen Hamilton, where he leads the company’s Internet of Things security practice.

Nov 27, 2017
032 The Practical in Practice — Use Cases for Threat Intelligence

In this episode of the Recorded Future podcast, we take a closer look at the practical application of threat intelligence. Some security teams still meet threat intelligence with a skeptical eye, wondering how adding even more information to the flow of data they’re already receiving could improve their security posture. In reality, they’re likely already using some degree of threat intelligence even if they don’t realize it. We’ll explore ways that organizations can determine how much threat intelligence is the right amount, when it’s time to engage with a third-party provider, and when it’s not. We’ll review case studies from FaceBook and Akamai, and we’ll discuss the importance of context when transforming information into intelligence.

Our guide this week is Allan Liska. He’s a Solutions Architect at Recorded Future, and author of the newly published e-book Threat Intelligence in Practice.

Nov 20, 2017
031 No Phishing Allowed

This episode focuses on phishing, where a bad actor pretends to be someone they’re not in order to get a user to reveal information, like a login or password, or to get them to perform a task, like transferring money.

 Phishing has been around for quite a while. Many of us remember breathless email requests from a certain Nigerian Prince looking to share millions of dollars. It’s still around today because it works and it’s inexpensive to do, taking advantage of human nature and most people’s tendency to be helpful and trusting.

 Our guest today is Oren Falkowitz, CEO and founder of Area 1 Security, a company that specializes in protecting organizations from phishing attacks. He describes the history and continued effectiveness of phishing campaigns, the techniques that companies like Area 1 Security use to defend against them, and whether or not he thinks it’s a problem we’ll ultimately solve.


Nov 13, 2017
030 A Look Into the Thriving Dark Web Criminal Market

The recent Equifax breach highlights the vulnerability of our personal data online, and serves as a reminder that there’s an active, thriving, global criminal market for that sort of information.

In this episode of the Recorded Future podcast we return to the dark web, with Recorded Future’s director of advanced collection, Andrei Barysevich as our guide. He’ll separate fact from fiction, and help us gain a better understanding of the mysterious and increasingly volatile world of the online criminal underground. What sorts of information and services are actually available for purchase in these markets, how does law enforcement respond, and what are the challenges of gathering threat intelligence in an environment where trust and anonymity are the coins of the realm?

Nov 06, 2017
029 Why Does the U.S. Lag Behind China in Vulnerability Reporting?

The U.S. National Vulnerability Database, or NVD, is, in part, a collection of security-related reports. Software vulnerabilities are assigned CVE numbers, which stands for common vulnerabilities and exposures, which help track the issues and provide a common reference for referring to a specific flaw. China has a database of their own, the Chinese National Vulnerability Database, or CNNVD. 

Our guest today is Dr. Bill Ladd, chief data scientist at Recorded Future. His team noticed that publicly known vulnerabilities were showing up more quickly in China’s database than in the U.S., quite often taking days instead of weeks. This not only has the potential to put U.S. defenders at a disadvantage, it could also give black hats the upper hand. 

In this episode we’ll learn why the NVD lags behind the CNNVD, why it matters, and what could be done to correct it.

Oct 30, 2017
028 Know the Threat to Beat the Threat

Our guest today is Bob Gourley, author of the book “The Cyber Threat: Know the Threat to Beat the Threat.” Earlier in his career, Bob spent 20 years as a U.S. Navy intelligence officer. One of his last assignments with the military was as director of intelligence for the first Department of Defense cyber defense organization. He’s currently a partner at Cognitio Corp, where he leads research and analysis activities, due diligence assessments, and strategic cybersecurity reviews for clients.

Bob sat down with us at our annual user conference at the Newseum in Washington, D.C. for a wide-ranging conversation on what it was like to define emerging cybersecurity missions for the Department of Defense, the importance of looking back to history as a guide, and the growing need for threat intelligence and basic cyber hygiene.

Oct 23, 2017
027 The Facts on Equifax With John Wetzel

By now, you’ve surely heard that Equifax, one of the largest credit reporting companies in the U.S., suffered a huge data breach. How bad was it? Reports say over 143 million sets of personal information may have been lost on U.S. residents alone, including names, social security numbers, birth dates, addresses, and in some cases driver license numbers. Reports say Equifax neglected to patch a known vulnerability in a timely manner, and took even longer to go public with news of the breach. The story is still developing, but it’s shaping up to be one of the most significant security breaches yet.

John Wetzel is head of threat intelligence training at Recorded Future, and he joins us today to help make sense of what happened to Equifax, how it might have been prevented, and what a breach of this size means for all of us.

Oct 09, 2017
026 NYC CISO Geoff Brown Protects the Greatest City in the World

When someone mentions New York City, there are a variety of images that may come to mind. The Statue of Liberty, the Empire State Building, Times Square, or maybe Wall Street or Central Park. And, of course, 9/11. It’s no wonder the city of New York is often called “the greatest city in the world.”

Mayors of other cities may take issue with that label, but there’s no argument that New York is one of the largest, most important cities in the world, with over eight and half million people.

Geoff Brown is the chief information security officer for New York City, and he’s our special guest today. He heads up New York City Cyber Command, a new cybersecurity organization for the city of New York that works across more than 100 agencies and offices to prevent, detect, respond, and recover from cyber threats.

Oct 02, 2017
025 TTPs From A Through Z With Levi Gundert

You’re likely familiar with the phrase, “know your enemy.” The idea being, the more you know about your adversary, their motivations, methods, and capabilities, the better advantage you’ll have when it’s time to defend yourself.

In cybersecurity threat intelligence, we speak of threat actor tactics, techniques, and procedures, or TTPs. TTPs can come from a variety of sources, including open source, darknets, scanning and crawling, and others, but to turn the raw data from TTPs into actionable intelligence, you need to know how to set your priorities based on your organization’s needs.

Joining us once again to help make sense of all of this is Levi Gundert, vice president of intelligence and strategy at Recorded Future.

Sep 25, 2017
024 Protecting a Global Telecommunications Company

Our guest today is BT’s Vice President, Security UK and Continental Europe, Luke Beeson. Located in London, he leads teams who deliver cybersecurity services to customers, while simultaneously protecting BT’s own systems. We discuss the challenges a large organization like BT faces when it comes to protecting themselves and their clients, the affect the upcoming GDPR regulations may have on the company and organizations around the world, and how they set their priorities across a broad spectrum of products and services. We’ll also get his take on the role of threat intelligence in his day-to-day security strategies.

Sep 18, 2017
023 Analyst and Fantasy Author Myke Cole

Our guest today is Myke Cole. He’s a cyber threat intelligence analyst with a large metropolitan police department, and a member of the United States Coast Guard reserve, supporting maritime search and rescue and law enforcement around New York City. He is also an award-winning, best-selling author of fantasy fiction, perhaps best known for his “Shadow Ops” series of novels, combining military action with magic and sorcery. And if that weren’t enough, he’s also featured in the CBS reality TV series, “Hunted,” where he’s one of an elite team of fugitive hunters.

Mr. Cole shares his unlikely path to cybersecurity, how his ability to conjure convincing characters in his fantasy novels transfers to understanding the minds of cyber adversaries, and the importance of creativity and taking risks.

Sep 11, 2017
022 Follow the Money: Threat Intelligence for Financial Institutions

When you’re responsible for safeguarding the money, not to mention the personal financial information of your clients, what are your specific needs when it comes to threat intelligence? Where do you begin, and how do you get the best bang for your buck? Is open source intelligence enough, or should you invest in a paid solution from the outset? What about regulators? And how do you get buy-in from the board?

Here to answer these and many other questions is Dr. Christopher Pierson. He’s chief security officer and general counsel at Viewpost, an electronic invoice, payment, and cash management company. He also serves as a special government employee on the Department of Homeland Security Data Privacy and Integrity Advisory Committee and Cybersecurity Subcommittee, and is a distinguished fellow of the Ponemon Institute.

Sep 05, 2017
021 Chasing Risky Internet Business

As security professionals, we’re relied upon to protect our networks from malicious traffic. But what’s the best strategy for determining the most likely sources of risky traffic? Is it safe to assume that traffic from certain countries is more suspicious than others, or that some hosting infrastructures are more likely to be compromised? With a growing consensus that IP blocklists are rapidly becoming obsolete, a more sophisticated approach is needed.

Our guest today is Dr. Bill Ladd, chief data scientist at Recorded Future. He’s the author of the report, "From Chasing Risk Lists to ASN Policies: Large-Scale Analysis of Risky Internet Activity." The report takes a data-driven look at a variety of ways to determine risky ASNs and IP addresses. In this episode Bill Ladd gives us an overview of his team’s research and findings.

Aug 28, 2017
020 Russia Revisited: How Did We Get Here?

In this episode we take a closer look at Russia. Here in the United States, there’s been no shortage of news about Russia, its alleged interference in our presidential election, and its greater role in the global cybersecurity ecosystem. But how did we get here? What’s the historical context for Russia’s cybersecurity strategy and posture, how does it compare to other players around the world, and what are our options for dealing with it? How do Russia’s relationships with its neighbors inform its approach to online warfare, and how do Russian citizens perceive their place in the world?

On today’s podcast we’re joined by Peter Debbins, an instructor at the Academy for Defense Intelligence, where he teaches on a wide range of Russian-related topics. His background includes service in the U.S. Army as an officer, experience in the private sector, and as a Russian-area analyst.  

Aug 21, 2017
019 Women in Intelligence: Navigating a Male-Dominated Field

In today’s episode we hear from three women working in cybersecurity intelligence. We’ll learn about their sometimes indirect journeys toward tech, challenges they faced along the way, and we’ll get their advice for navigating what is still a male-dominated field.

Emily Wilson is director of analysis at Terbium Labs, where she leads a team focused on exploring and analyzing data from the dark web.

Lauren Zabierek is a senior analyst with Recorded Future, providing threat intelligence for its customers.

Teresa Shea is currently an executive vice president at In-Q-Tel. Prior to that she spent 35 years at the NSA, rising to the role of director of signals intelligence before retiring from the agency in 2015.

Aug 14, 2017
018 North Korea's Not So Crazy After All

When it comes to North Korea, there are a variety of images that may come to mind. Eccentric, erratic leadership, suffering citizens, isolation from the rest of the global community, and lately, of course, the testing of nuclear weapons and long-range missiles. When it comes to cybersecurity and threat intelligence, North Korea is known for cybercrime, perhaps most notably the WannaCry ransomware and the Sony hack.

Our guest today is Priscilla Moriuchi, director of strategic threat development at Recorded Future and former enduring threat manager for East Asia and Pacific at NSA. Her team is responsible for a pair of research reports recently posted to the Recorded Future website, “North Korea Is Not Crazy,” and, “North Korea’s Ruling Elite Are Not Isolated.”

The reports reveal that North Korean threat actors are not crazy or irrational: they just have a wider operational scope than most other intelligence services, along with unique insights into how North Korean leadership and ruling elite use the internet and what that can tell us about their plans and intentions.


Aug 07, 2017
017 Black Hat and DEF CON 2017 Recap

The Black Hat 2017 conference just wrapped up in Las Vegas, followed immediately by the DEF CON hacker convention. Between the two shows, it’s one of the largest annual gatherings of cybersecurity professionals and enthusiasts in the world. Black Hat features a trade show floor with vendors representing all aspects of the cybersecurity community, plus high-profile keynote speakers and educational sessions covering a variety of research and industry developments. This year was Black Hat’s 20th anniversary. And DEF CON celebrated its 25th year as a destination for everyone from cybersecurity hackers to lock pickers.


Recorded Future’s Alex Walker was there, and on today’s show he shares his experience from Black Hat and DEF CON, and how these sorts of gatherings are helping the cybersecurity and threat intelligence communities mature and focus on emerging challenges.  

Jul 31, 2017
016 Making Sense of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning

Artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) are hot topics in cybersecurity, threat intelligence, and beyond. We hear the terms casually tossed around in conversation, we’re bombarded with AI/ML marketing, and of course, there is no end to the references in movies, literature, and pop culture. Unfortunately, we’re often missing the context or explanation needed to know what they mean or why they matter. Some say AI and ML will be our virtual saviors, others offer cautionary tales of bots gone wrong. In this episode, we welcome back Christopher Ahlberg, CEO at Recorded Future, and Staffan Truvé, Recorded Future’s chief technology officer, for a wide-ranging, spirited discussion to help sort it all out.

Jul 24, 2017
015 Becoming an Analyst Part 2: Educational Foundations

Ever thought of becoming a threat intelligence analyst? This is the second in our occasional series of behind-the-scenes looks at Recorded Future, where we drop in from time to time on team members, to find out what it is they do, how they do it, what made them choose their careers, along with some advice for anyone considering the field. They share their stories, in their own words. In this episode, we introduce you to Wendy DeLuca and CW Walker. Although they come with experience in analysis and cyber security, neither of them had a conventional technical educational pathway to working in threat intelligence. We’ll find out why, and why both of them consider that an asset.

Jul 17, 2017
014 WannaCry About NotPetya?

As we pass the midpoint of 2017, we’ve had more than a few high-profile malware attacks. Two of the biggest have been WannaCry, the ransomware attack that went worldwide in May, and NotPetya, the destructive campaign that targeted Ukraine in June, but rapidly became a global menace, creating widespread fear and confusion, not to mention business disruptions. Observers are still settling on a final name for NotPetya, by the way. It’s being called Petya, Nyetya, and GoldenEye, but for this show we’re going to go with NotPetya.

In this episode, we’re joined again by Allan Liska, Senior Solutions Architect at Recorded Future, and author of “Ransomware – Defending Against Digital Extortion.” He’ll share his insights on both attacks, and walk us through how his team grappled with the challenge of understanding and communicating the threat to industry. We’ll also talk about what these two attacks mean for the future — do they represent harbingers of the “big one” we all fear? Time to panic? Tune in and find out.

Jul 10, 2017