Typology

By Ian Morgan Cron

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 Jul 1, 2019

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Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians, artists, business leaders, neuroscientists, philosophers, and more. In other words, we’ll be talking with people who are trying to become the best version of themselves in the world.

Episode Date
Jamie Grace Quiets the Noise (Enneagram 7) [S04-023]
58:25

Enneagram Sevens typically appear confident, optimistic, and sunny.  They’re experts at finding the silver lining in any given situation in an attempt to avoid psychological and emotional or even sometimes circumstantial discomfort or distress. But what people don't understand about Sevens is if you scratch the paint just a little bit you’ll find a lot of anxiety and unattended sorrow, unattended grief that they've spent so long living into the expectations that others have of them to always be the person who brings the juice, or make the party fun.

So how do Sevens learn to sift through their anxiety and grief so they come out stronger on the other side? Listen as my guest, two-time Grammy-nominated singer/songwriter and actress, Jamie Grace, walks us through her process and provides a few tips for quieting the noise.

Jamie is a very self-aware Enneagram Seven who actively advocates for joy, wellness, and mental health through the lens of music, film, and faith. An entertainer at heart, she regularly creates fresh content, including new music and weekly videos and episodes of her podcast, the Jamie Grace Podcast.

Nov 26, 2020
Marcus Johns Learns He's Not in Control (Enneagram 8) [S04-022]
57:50

The Enneagram is a wonderful instrument that helps us develop self-awareness and self-knowledge that allows us to move through the world more intelligently, with more love and compassion, but it doesn’t define us.  It helps us develop an internal witness who can stand back and observe when we need to make a different choice or action.  So, when life throws you a curveball, as it did for our guest, Marcus Johns, the Enneagram allows us to shift our perspective and let go of what is not in our control.

Marcus is an actor, musician, writer, and social content creator best known for his viral Vine videos, which continue to entertain people on YouTube. You can also find him here on Instagram.

Nov 19, 2020
Lee and Laura Camp on Healing with the Enneagram (Enneagram 1 and 8) [S04-021]
01:04:13

I’m often asked what it’s like for specific type-pairings to be in a relationship?  I believe that any type can have a successful partnership as long as they are healthy in their type.  That doesn’t mean there won’t be challenges along the way, but when you’re self-aware and also understand how your partner sees the world, it allows for more grace and compassion towards each other.

Today, Lee and Laura Camp join me in a discussion of how the Enneagram helped them get into a healthy space and allowed them to heal their relationship as an Enneagram 1 and Enneagram 8.

Nov 12, 2020
Ben Higgins: Alone in Plain Sight as an Enneagram 4 (S04-020)
01:12:28

We know that Enneagram Ones have a strong inner critic, but they're not alone.  Just how loud is that inner critic for an Enneagram Four?  What does it sound like? 

Tune in this week as former Bachelor, Ben Higgins talks about his inner critic, the healing journey of getting over his “Self,” and the role the Enneagram has played in finding true compassion and connection among all of his relationships.

Nov 05, 2020
Joshua Dubois on Leading with Self-Awareness and Empathy (Enneagram 8) [S04-019]
53:26

Enneagram Eights are charismatic individuals who lead through strength, competence, stability, and control. When self-aware, they learn to balance their intensity with a strategic approach and bring community leaders together to execute big changes.

Today’s guest, one of our country’s top voices on community partnerships, Joshua Dubois, joins me in a discussion about the Enneagram and how it has made his team more empathetic and more human with one another.  

In this episode we cover:

  • Learning to trust his instincts
  • How leading strategically opens the door for communication
  • What Joshua learned through his experience in the White House

CEO, author, and media commentator, Joshua DuBois is one of our country’s top voices on community partnerships, issues impacting African Americans, and religion in the public square. Joshua led the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships under President Obama. In the White House he brought together community leaders from across the ideological spectrum to tackle some of the nation’s biggest challenges. Joshua is now CEO of Gauge, a market research company, and also leads Values Partnerships (valuespartnerships.com), one of the country’s top social impact agencies. He is a frequent media commentator on CNN and author of the bestselling book, “The President’s Devotional: The Daily Readings that Inspired President Obama,” a compilation of the devotional meditations he shared with the President and narratives of faith in public life.

Oct 29, 2020
Alli Worthington on Standing Strong as an Enneagram 7 [S04-018]
53:22

One of my favorite quotes by M. Scott Peck is, “Life is difficult. This is a great truth, one of the greatest truths.” Once you accept that life is hard, and the sooner that you accept it, the better off you’ll be.

With all the craziness of 2020, it’s important to remember that life is full of struggles and we all have to live with a certain amount of pain. If we let it, our negative thoughts can take over and take us out of the game before we even start.  But, with a little self-awareness, we can learn to quiet our thoughts and manage the uncertainty and self-doubt that arises when times are difficult.

My guest today, author, business coach, and Enneagram 7, Alli Worthington joins me for a great conversation about overcoming adversity and moving forward when things are tough.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • What it looks like to “Stand Strong.”

  • How to manage pain and crisis without numbing out, and

  • Recognizing and managing your Inner Critic

Alli Worthington is known for her straight-talking encouragement and practical tools that help women reach their dreams in business and life.  She’s a business coach and advisor who has worked with companies such as Intel, Disney, Microsoft, and Procter & Gamble. She is the co-founder of “Called Creatives,” where she coaches writers and speakers.

Author of The Year of Living Happy, Fierce Faith, and Breaking Busy, Alli is a well-known speaker and host of the popular podcast, The Alli Worthington Show. In her new book, Standing Strong: A Woman’s Guide to Overcoming Adversity and Living with Confidence, Alli gives women a no-nonsense guide to recognizing and eliminating the things that hold them back, to tackling the obstacles of fear, self-doubt, and insecurity, and to stepping into the dreams that planted in their hearts. Each chapter closes with discussion questions and action steps to aid readers on their journeys to living with strength and confidence.

Oct 22, 2020
Ken Coleman on Mistyping and the Enneagram [S04-018]
01:04:41

When trying to figure out your Enneagram type it’s important to know all nine types. If you think you know your type and just read up on that type, you may actually do confirmation bias and just automatically assume, “That sounds like me.”  But when you know all 9 types, you can really dig into the underlying motivation of each type to see which one resonates strongest for you.

So, when Ken Coleman joined me a few months ago to discuss finding your dream job and living as an Enneagram Eight, I kept thinking that something didn’t quite fit.  And knowing that Enneagram Threes and Eights often mistype themselves, I encouraged Ken to do some reading.

Today, Ken’s back to share what he learned.

Listen in as we cover:

  • Why 3s and 8s often get mistyped as each other
  • Whether your personality is hard-wired or driven by the environment
  • The importance of knowing your subtype
Oct 15, 2020
Part 2: Andy Stanley on Decision-Making and the Enneagram [S04-016]
52:06

There’s no question that we’re living in a time where a lot of unprecedented decisions are being made all around us. In our current climate, it couldn’t be more evident that we all approach decision-making in different ways — even our responses to decisions other people make vary.

Last week, host of The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, founder of North Point Ministries, and author of Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets, Andy Stanley and I talked about how your type makes decisions. This week we continue our conversation and cover how each Enneagram type responds when decisions are made for them that impact their life circumstances.

Be sure to listen to part one and two, then download this quick reference that summarizes both episodes.

Oct 08, 2020
Andy Stanley on Decision-Making with the Enneagram, Part 1 [S04-015]
49:58

How do you make decisions?  Does your initial response come from the head, heart, or gut?  Our natural tendency is to think that everyone makes decisions the same way that we do.  But the reality is that each Enneagram type takes information in through a different lens which impacts the decisions we make on a daily basis.  

This week we’ve got a special treat for you. Host of The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast and founder of North Point Ministries, and author of Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets, Andy Stanley takes over as host and interviews me on how each type makes decisions.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • The default question each type asks as they make decisions
  • Whether your type approaches decisions from the head, heart, or gut
  • What your type should consider before making a decision

 

About Andy Stanley

Andy Stanley is a pastor, communicator, and bestselling author. Andy founded Atlanta-based North Point Ministries in 1995. Today, NPM consists of seven churches in the Atlanta area and a network of more than 90 churches around the globe that collectively serve nearly 185,000 people weekly. A survey of U.S. pastors in Outreach Magazine identified Andy as one of the ten most influential living pastors in America.

Your Move with Andy Stanley premiered on NBC after Saturday Night Live in 2012 and on CBS after The Late Late Show with James Corden in 2017, giving him an even wider audience. Currently, over seven million episodes are consumed each month through television and podcasts.

Nothing is as personal as his passion for engaging with live audiences, which he has pursued for over two decades at leadership events around the world. In high demand, he speaks at various annual events before audiences of both church and organizational leaders.

Andy and his wife, Sandra, have three grown children and live near Atlanta.

For more information on Andy, visit https://andystanley.com.

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Oct 01, 2020
Bari Tessler: Why Every Type Needs a Financial Therapist (Enneagram 4) [S04-014]
01:08:06

What is your relationship with money?  Do you have a healthy one? Do you have a conscious one?

Most of us don’t receive a financial education or an emotional literacy education as we are growing up.  But, given how much we think about money, understanding what it is for, and why it is uniquely important to you can help foster a better, more intentional relationship with money.

Bari Tessler, Financial Therapist, podcast host, and author of The Art of Money joins me for a discussion on money healing and shares insights into how each type relates to money.

In today’s episode you’ll discover:

  • What a financial therapist is and why you need one
  • What “money emotions” are and how they show up for your type
  • How a body check-in relates to money healing

Bari Tessler Linden, M.A., is a Financial Therapist, Mentor Coach, Mama-preneur, and the Founder of The Art of Money. She has guided thousands of people to new, empowered, and refreshingly honest relationships with money through her nurturing, body-centered approach.  

Her methodology weaves together personal, couple, and creative entrepreneurial money teachings into one complete tapestry. She is the founder of The Art of Money: a year-long money school, which integrates Money Healing, Money Practices and Money Maps.  You can learn more about Bari on her website at https://baritessler.com or follow her on Instagram and Facebook at @baritessler. 

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Sep 24, 2020
What the Enneagram Says About Your Money Style w/ Rachel Cruze (Enneagram 3) [S04-013]
01:04:44

We all view the world through a different lens and the motivations that drive the decisions we make also vary.  The Enneagram is a valuable tool for helping us understand those motivations so we can become more patient parents, communicate better with our spouses, and extend compassion to our coworkers.

Our underlying motivations even play a large role in how we behave when it comes to money.

When you understand the why behind how you handle money the way that you do, you can begin to make better choices that lead to lasting change.

And today, #1 New York Times bestselling author and money expert, Rachel Cruze, joins me to talk about the natural tendencies and basic challenges of each Enneagram type when it comes to finances.

 

ABOUT RACHEL CRUZE

Rachel Cruze helps people learn the proper ways to handle money and stay out of debt. She’s authored three bestselling books, including Love Your Life, Not Theirs and Smart Money Smart Kids. The daughter of Dave Ramsey, she uses the knowledge and experiences from growing up in the Ramsey household to educate others. She’s the host of The Rachel Cruze Show, which is available on Facebook and YouTube, and The Rachel Cruze Show podcast, which is available on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. You can follow Cruze on Twitter and Instagram at @RachelCruze and online at rachelcruze.com, youtube.com/rachelcruze, or facebook.com/rachelramseycruze

Sep 17, 2020
Power Under Control with Dave Ramsey (Enneagram 8) [S04-012]
56:48

Healthy Eights are great friends, exceptional leaders, and champions of those who cannot fight on their own behalf. These Eights are intelligent, self-confident, driven, and use their power in the right measure at the appropriate times. They are highly intuitive and read the world from their gut.  And, today’s guest is no exception.

Listen as Dave Ramsey joins me to talk about the Enneagram and how it has changed the way he moves through the world.  You don’t want to miss his insights as they pertain to trusting his instincts, leading authentically, processing information, and decision-making.

Dave Ramsey is a financial expert helping millions avoid the mistakes he’s made to improve their financial wellness. As the owner of Ramsey Solutions, Dave employs more than 800 team members who are focused and dedicated to doing work that matters.

The Dave Ramsey Show is the third-largest radio talk show in America and is heard by more than 14 million listeners each week on more than 600 radio stations, The Dave Ramsey Show podcast, SiriusXM, iHeartRadio, and a 24-hour online streaming video channel. His caller-driven show features Ramsey’s advice on avoiding money mistakes and his step-by-step plan to get out of them. The Dave Ramsey Show celebrated 25 years on the air in 2017.

You can find more on Dave Ramsey at daveramsey.com or follow him on social media at @daveramsey or @ramseyshow.

 

Sep 10, 2020
Jamie Ivey on Living in the Present Moment (Enneagram 6) [S04-011]
58:04

The ever-present passion (fear) that drives the Enneagram Six’s way of acting, thinking, and feeling, is actually experienced as anxiety. Fear is what arises when you’re in the presence of a clear and immediate source of danger.  Anxiety, in contrast, is a vague, free-floating sense of apprehension that arises in response to an unknown or potential threat.

For Sixes, anxiety plays a role in all aspects of their life.  They are constantly planning “what-if” scenarios, have thought through the contingencies, and know exactly what to do in any given situation. 

But healthy, self-aware Sixes recognize their pattern of worst-case-scenario planning, learn to trust their own experiences, and believe that in the end everything will be alright.

In this episode of Typology, author and host of “The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey” podcast and Enneagram Six, Jamie Ivey explains the thread of natural caution and apprehension she feels as it relates to her friendships, marriage, and parenting.  And she reminds us that, when healthy, the Six’s anxiety produces a lot of great stories!

P.S. Listen to this episode then text “FRIEND” to 33777 for a free download from Jamie.

Sep 03, 2020
REPLAY: So Six-y It Hurts [S04-009]
01:13:32

The more I know about life and people, the more I love Enneagram Sixes. Called Loyalists, Sixes are the most faithful and dependable people on the Enneagram. They keep a watchful eye over us. They safeguard our values. In my opinion, they're the glue that holds our world together. And, by the time this episode is over, you’re going to understand why Enneagram Sixes have a reputation for being some of the funniest people on the planet.

Today, Jill Phillips, Leslie Jordan, Francie Likis, and Katie Williams describe what it’s like to be Enneagram Sixes. 

You're going to love and admire this group of women as they explain:  

  • How fear and anxiety manifest in The Loyalist
  • What the difference is between counter-phobic and phobic Sixes
  • How different forms of worst-case-scenario planning play out

So, sit back, hit play, and listen to this remarkable group of women talk about how they see and experience the world. You’ll enjoy every minute of it.

Aug 27, 2020
REPLAY: Author Jo Saxton Lives Out Loud
01:05:32

Another one of my favorite episodes is my interview from Season 1 with Jo Saxton.  She’s an author, speaker, podcast host, and leadership coach who has dedicated her career to growing leadership teams around the world and empowering women to find their purpose in their personal and professional lives.  She’s also a strong voice for Enneagram Eights.

Healthy Eights are great friends, exceptional leaders and champions of those who cannot fight on their own behalf. They have the intelligence, courage and stamina to do what others say can’t be done. And, as with most Enneagram Eights, Jo Saxton is full of Eight's life-giving energy.

When healthy, Eights learn to open their hearts like a healthy Two. And on this replay, Jo shares how she peeled back the layers, let down her defenses and got in touch with their inner heart. Listen in as we discuss healing broken identities and using the Enneagram as a tool for breaking through the junk that we accumulate and that confuses us from seeing who we truly are. And at the end of the show, Jo Saxton shares some tips for Eights who are just beginning to do their work and how they can begin to grow beyond their broken identity, or their broken personality, into their best self.

For more information on Jo, visit www.josaxton.com

Aug 20, 2020
REPLAY: Richard Rohr on Getting Over Your "Self" with the Enneagram [S04-007]
01:10:32

As we continue to celebrate reaching over 11 Million downloads, I’d like to revisit my interview with Fr. Richard Rohr.  I first encountered the Enneagram when I was a graduate student at a conservative seminary. While on a weekend retreat I came across a copy of Fr. Richard Rohr’s book, Discovering The Enneagram: An Ancient Tool for a New Spiritual Journey. In that book Richard describes the traits and the underlying compulsions of each of the nine basic Enneagram types. Based on my life experience and what I’d learned in my training to become a counselor, Rohr’s description of the types blew my mind.  They were uncannily accurate. I felt sure I had stumbled on an amazing resource, not only for Christians but for all people. Little did I know, that 25 years later, Richard and I would be friends and the Enneagram would become the central focus of my work.

In this episode, you will learn:

  • How Richard discovered the Enneagram
  • How to break the shackles of self-doubt with self-compassion
  • What exactly is the true self vs. false self
  • Why the Enneagram can help to identify the true-self
  • How we can use the Enneagram on a daily basis as a framework, or blueprint, for spiritual formation

Richard also offers words of encouragement for and caution for each Enneagram type.

Richard is a Franciscan priest of the New Mexico Province and he is the founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He is the author of numerous books, including Everything Belongs, Adam’s Return, The Naked Now, Breathing Under Water, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond, and Eager to Love: The Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi.  

Aug 13, 2020
REPLAY: There's Power in Peace w/Lysa Terkeurst (Enneagram 9) [S04-006]
39:29

We want to thank all of our listeners for tuning in and sharing our episodes -- helping us reach our biggest milestone yet -- 11 million downloads! As we celebrate this month, we'll be revisiting a few of Ian's favorite episodes that show just how powerful the Enneagram is as a tool for personal transformation.

In today's replay, we take a look at the adaptable, caring, and "go with the flow" nature of Enneagram Nines.  To keep the peace, Nines can over-accommodate in an unconscious effort to avoid conflict and "fall asleep" to their own needs.  

Our guest, Lysa Terkeurst, #1 New York Times bestselling author and Enneagram Nine, explains why it's important for The Peacemaker not to confuse the desire for peace with the disease to please and to recognize the delight of being yourself.

Lysa TerKeurst is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Uninvited and It’s Not Supposed to be This Way as well as 21 other books. As president of Proverbs 31 Ministries, Lysa and her staff are passionate about teaching the Word of God in ways that get people excited to live the Bible out loud. With their First 5 app and Encouragement for Today devotions, millions of people are studying God’s Word every day with Lysa and her team. Lysa writes from her sticky farm table and lives with her family in North Carolina.  

Lysa was recently awarded the Champions of Faith Author Award and has been published in multiple publications such as Fox News and CNN online. Additionally, she has appeared on the Today Show as one of the leading voices in the Christian community. Each year, Lysa is a featured keynote presenter at more than 40 events across North America, including the Women of Joy Conferences and the Catalyst Leadership Conference. She has a passion for equipping women to share their stories for God's glory through Proverbs 31 Ministries' annual She Speaks Conference and writer training program, COMPEL: Words That Move People. Lysa writes from her sticky farm table and lives with her family in North Carolina.

  

Aug 06, 2020
Jenni Catron and Identity Work as an Enneagram 3 [S04-005]
01:02:19

Driven by the desire to appear successful and distinguish themselves through their achievements, image-focused Enneagram Threes often appear confident, ambitious, and goal-oriented. At their best, they are self-accepting, authentic role models who inspire others.

Today, author and leadership coach, Jenni Catron explains the pivotal role the Enneagram has had played for her personally and professionally.  She discusses the importance of identity work for Enneagram Threes, recognizing when the shadow-side is showing up more, and how being too risk-avoidant can hinder growth and development.   

Jenni Catron is a leadership coach, author and speaker. Her passion is to cultivate healthy leaders to lead thriving organizations. She speaks at conferences and events nationwide, seeking to help leaders develop the clarity and confidence to lead well. As Founder and CEO of The 4Sight Group, she consults organizations on leadership, team culture and organizational health. With over 20 years of experience in corporate and non-profit organizations, Jenni has a passion for helping leaders “put feet to their vision.”

Jenni is the author of several books including Clout: Discover and Unleash Your God-Given Influence and The 4 Dimensions of Extraordinary Leadership . She loves a fabulous cup of tea, great books, learning the game of tennis and hiking with her husband. Jenni can be found on social media at @jennicatron and at https://get4sight.com

You can also download her free PDF to help you define compelling values for your team.

Jul 30, 2020
Blake Mycoskie on the Process of Renewal as an Enneagram 7 [S04-004]
59:47

Known for their playful, high-spirited, and spontaneous personalities, Enneagram Sevens infuse optimism and adventure in their daily interactions.  But their fear of boredom can lead to impulsive decision making and difficulty committing to plans in advance.

So, what happens when an Enneagram Seven focuses on doing their work and allows the knowledge to penetrate and break the patterns that typically drive an Enthusiast?  Our guest, founder of TOMS and Madefor, Blake Mycoskie shares how the adoption of specific positive practices has helped him to really thrive and flourish as his best, most authentic self.

Blake Mycoskie is a serial entrepreneur, philanthropist, and best-selling author most known for founding TOMS Shoes.  He’s also the person behind the idea of One for One®, a business model that helps a person in need with every product purchased.  As a New York Times best-selling author of the book, Start Something That Matters, Blake offered his own story of inspiration and the power of incorporating giving in business. He’s achieved numerous accolades for his unique approach to business including the Secretary of State’s 2009 Award of Corporate Excellence, the 2015 Next Generation Award from Harvard’s School of Public Health, the 2016 Cannes Lion Heart Award, and the 2018 amfAR Award of Courage.  Blake also recently expanded his philanthropic efforts to include the funding of the Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research at Johns Hopkins, making it the first such research center in the US and the largest of its kind in the world.

His current project, Madefor is a ten-month program that applies the principles of modern neuroscience, psychology and physiology to make your brain and body better.  It leads you to adopt habits that work together to shift your mindset and behaviors.  And, just for our Typology listeners, you’ll receive 20% off with the discount code MFTYPOLOGY.  For more information, visit GetMadeFor.com.

Jul 23, 2020
Ken Coleman on Using Proximity and the Enneagram to Find Your Dream Job [S04-003]
58:30

Enneagram Eights are real forces of nature.  They are incredibly hardworking with a great deal of energy, and their self-confidence and take-charge personality make it easy for them to make difficult decisions.  So, when it comes to finding the job you love, Enneagram Eight, Ken Coleman couldn’t be a better guide. 

Today on Typology, Ken not only outlines the questions any Enneagram type needs to answer in order to find their dream job, but he also covers what he likes about being an Enneagram Eight and how it’s helped him in his personal and professional life.

Ken Coleman is the #1 national bestselling author of The Proximity PrincipleThe Proven Strategy That Will Lead to the Career You Love. At Ramsey Solutions, he hosts The Ken Coleman Show, a nationally syndicated radio show — part of the Ramsey Network — that airs on 51 stations across the U.S every weekday. Ken is a trusted voice and expert who’s been featured in Forbes and appeared on Fox Business Network, Yahoo! Finance, and the Rachael Ray Show.

Jul 16, 2020
Josh Radnor's Shift from the Outside In [S04-002]
59:08

As a map of our interior world, the Enneagram is meant to bring about or enable spiritual transformation. But what does it look like when we are far enough down our path to see a difference? Our guest, actor/musician and Enneagram three Josh Radnor illustrates that vision today. Josh talks to Ian about growing in his compassion for himself and others, transforming from an unevolved three to an evolved three, recognizing the tension that plays out as a three with a four wing, and what spirituality looks like for him right now.

JOSH RADNOR, most famous for his role on the long-running hit sitcom HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER, also has an impressive body of dramatic work. Josh wrote, directed, and starred in Sundance feature hits LIBERAL ARTS and HAPPYTHANKYOUMOREPLEASE, and co-starred alongside Katheryn Hahn in Jill Soloway’s AFTERNOON DELIGHT, which also premiered at Sundance. Josh has also starred in numerous plays on Broadway. On television, he starred for two seasons on PBS's MERCY STREET and on NBC’s one-hour drama RISE. He is in a band with musician Ben Lee, called Radnor & Lee, and they just released their second album GOLDEN STATE. You can also see him alongside Al Pacino as the Nazi hunter Lonny Flash in Amazon's HUNTERS.

Jul 09, 2020
How the Enneagram Impacts Tori Kelly and André Murillo [S04-001]
01:09:41

We're kicking off season 4 with a great episode! Today, Enneagram Four pop star Tori Kelly and former professional basketball player André Murillo join me to talk about how the Enneagram has impacted their relationship.  Right out of the gate the conversation goes deep into how the Enneagram fosters a better understanding of the needs of their friends and family, encourages them to respect each other’s strengths, and helps them navigate the different ways they each approach emotions.

Tori Kelly is an American singer, songwriter, actress, and record producer who first gained recognition after posting videos on YouTube as a teenager, and appeared as a semi-finalist on the ninth season of American Idol in 2010. Thereafter, she independently released her self-produced debut EP in 2012, Handmade Songs by Tori Kelly.

Since making her debut with 2015’s Unbreakable Smile, a widely acclaimed album that entered the Billboard 200 at No. 2, Tori has lit up the pop landscape with her breathtaking vocals and full-hearted songwriting.  Over the past year, she’s continued to captivate with her sophomore effort Hiding Place: a passion project whose R&B-tinged take on classic gospel won Best Gospel Album at the 2019 Grammy Awards.  And though Hiding Place marks a stylistic departure from Kelly’s work in the pop world, each song shows the steadfast commitment to uncompromising artistry that carries through her music.  

Her husband, André Murillo is a former German-American professional basketball player who was raised in Lake Forest, California. He started his basketball career at Hamburg Towers in the German Pro A Basketball League then played for the Sea View League MVP. He currently has a passion for writing and sharing his personal life experiences.

Jul 02, 2020
Kendra Adachi's Lazy Genius Way to Embrace What Matters as an Enneagram One [S03-048]
54:22

When I first heard an Improver wrote a book titled, The Lazy Genius Way, I had to get her on the show.  How on earth does an Enneagram One, who typically can’t stop working to perfect the world and relax, come to embrace laziness?

In today’s episode, author Kendra Adachi explains why it’s so important to be a genius about the things that matter, but to be lazy about things that don’t.  She also talks about the impact the Enneagram has had on growing in self-awareness, helping her recognize and find compassion for her inner critic, and adopting simple practices to help break out of the trap of her personality.  

Jun 25, 2020
Michael Hyatt on Vision-Driven Leadership [S03-047]
50:27

What makes a great leader? We typically think of a strong leader as someone who knows where they are going and how to motivate others to get there.  But how do you effectively lead your team if you don’t have a clear vision of your future?

On this edition of Typology, Michael Hyatt explains what a Vision Driven Leader is and why a strategic vision is the most essential ingredient in leadership, not just in business but in all aspects of our lives.

Known for his New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestselling books advising leaders in the area of productivity and goal achievement, Michael is uniquely qualified with over 40 years of experience as an entrepreneur and executive to discuss the make-or-break factor in successful leadership: vision.

In this podcast, you’ll discover:

  • What a vision script is and why it’s so important

  • How an irresistible, clear vision can rally your team

  • How to avoid distractions and focus on opportunities that connect with your vision

Listen to this great episode then make sure to grab your copy of The Vision Driven Leader: 10 Questions to Focus Your Efforts, Energize Your Team, and Scale Your Business.

Jun 18, 2020
Elizabeth Evans Flips the Script as an Enneagram 5 [S03-046]
49:14

This week I’m thrilled to welcome podcast goddess and Enneagram Five, Elizabeth Evans. Having previously wrestled with a scarcity mindset that kept her wrapped up in her mind, she shares her powerful story of how she flipped the script of her fear and stepped into a mindset that led her to become a successful, female business owner. 

An expert in storytelling, Elizabeth shares how she integrates the Enneagram into her business, opens up about how she manages her “go-to” fears, and explains how she taps into the superpowers that come with being an Enneagram Five.

Elizabeth is a podcast producer, economics fanatic and founder of Elizabeth Evans Co.  Her 360 boutique podcast studio helps creatives strategically build their show from conception to launch. Her uniquely created podcast methodology has helped world-renowned artists, best-selling authors, award-winning musicians, and impactful influencers to create transformative podcasts full of timeless, quality conversations that empower listeners into extraordinary action. 

For more information about Elizabeth Evans visit her website and don't forget to check out her recently launched Podcast Society.

Jun 11, 2020
How to Apply the Enneagram in Your Business and Marriage with Tim and Beckie Farrant [S03-045]
59:15

How many teams do you belong to?  Personally, I am part of numerous teams. Be it my marriage, my friendships, my church, my AA group, or my business, I use the Enneagram with each of my teams to reduce conflict, improve communication, and promote cooperation. It’s an invaluable tool for building stronger teams.

In this episode, guests Tim and Beckie Farrant join me to talk about how they apply the Enneagram in business, in leadership, and in marriage.

Beckie is a wildly successful DIY blogger and top producer for DoTERRA Essential Oils.  Tim has over 20 years in pastoral ministry and is the author of “She’s Selling What?!”  Together, they walk us through the ways they support each other and their teams using the Enneagram.

Jun 04, 2020
Dr. Curt Thompson on the Enneagram and Shame
01:25:21

The Enneagram provides nine consistent, fairly predictable ways for us to understand and tell our narrative of how we operate in the world and make sense of our lives. It’s a tool that helps us enter into a conversation with ourselves about the recurring themes and patterns of behaviors that are self-defeating or hurtful to others. One of the themes that operates as a thread in each of our lives is shame. Next to love, I believe shame is the most powerful force in the universe, but in the wrong direction.

In today’s profoundly moving, heart-changing episode, author and psychiatrist Dr. Curt Thompson joins me for a deep conversation about shame and how it plays out as a human experience for all nine types.

In this episode we cover:

  • The definition of shame… what it does as opposed to what it is
  • Ways shame manifests in each Enneagram type
  • How we can begin to heal shame through community

About Curt Thompson, M.D.

Curt Thompson, M.D., is a psychiatrist in private practice in Falls Church, Virginia, and founder of Being Known, which develops teaching programs, seminars, and resource materials to help people explore the connection between interpersonal neurobiology and Christian spirituality which lead to genuine change and transformation. 

Dr. Thompson is the author of Anatomy of the Soul and The Soul of Shame: Retelling the Stories We Believe About Ourselves.

Thompson graduated from Wright State University School of Medicine and completed his psychiatric residency at Temple University Hospital. He is board certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology.

He and his wife, Phyllis, are the parents of two children and reside in Arlington, Virginia. He serves as an elder at Washington Community Fellowship in Washington, D.C.

May 28, 2020
Chuck Degroat on the Nine Faces of Narcissism [S03-043]
01:15:02

Today, psychologist, author, and spiritual director Chuck Degroat joins me for a killer episode about the nine faces of narcissism.  And we’re not talking about people with full-blown narcissistic personality disorder per se. We’re talking about narcissism on a continuum and what it looks like when each Enneagram type is manifesting a narcissistic style or type. Each of us is somewhere on that narcissistic spectrum. 

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • What narcissism actually is
  • How narcissism shows up in all nine types, and
  • What the healing path is for all nines types to keep narcissism in check.
May 21, 2020
Fulfillment NOT Achievement with Molly Fletcher (Enneagram 3) [S03-042]
01:04:21

Earlier this season, Molly Fletcher and I talked about her struggle to relax and turn it off. At the end of our interview, I asked her to come back after she had done some work and really dug into the Enneagram. Now, seven months later, she joins us to share how time and reflection have truly helped her slow down and shift her focus to chasing fulfillment rather than achievement. What does that look like for an Enneagram Three?

Tune in to find out.

Molly Fletcher is a popular keynote speaker who shares the unconventional techniques that helped her thrive as one of the first female sports agents in the high stakes, big ego world of professional sports. As a highly sought-after motivational speaker, she delivers game-changing messages to top companies, trade associations, and teams worldwide.

Molly spent two decades as one of the world’s only female sports agents. She was hailed as the “female Jerry Maguire” by CNN as she recruited and represented hundreds of sport’s biggest names, including Hall of Fame pitcher John Smoltz, PGA TOUR golfer Matt Kuchar, broadcaster Erin Andrews, and basketball championship coaches Tom Izzo and Doc Rivers.

She currently serves as a National Trustee member for the Boys & Girls Clubs of America and on the board of directors for the Intercollegiate Tennis Association (ITA) and the national advisory board for the Positive Coaching Alliance (PCA).

May 14, 2020
Enneagram and Parenting Insights from the Olricks [S03-041]
59:15

What better way to wrap up our series on Enneagram and Parenting, than with a rich conversation with parenting experts, Amy and Jeffrey Olrick, Ph.D. Dr. Olrick is a clinical psychologist who has worked with children and families for over 20 years. Amy is an author and human rights advocate whose work and writing has been featured in the Guardian and USA Today. Together, they run GrowingConnected.com, offering scientifically grounded and faith-informed resources for parents.

Today we discuss:

  • How the Enneagram can help parents identify and live into their strengths

  • What the 6 Needs of Every Child are and how they feather with the Enneagram

  • Co-parenting to meet the needs of your children with balance

Tune in for some great parenting insights on connecting with your children.

May 07, 2020
Dave Hollis on Growth and Fulfillment with the Enneagram [S03-040]
01:19:31

Author of Get Out of Your Own Way: A Skeptic’s Guide to Growth and Fulfillment, Dave Hollis joins me to talk honestly about the lies human beings tell themselves and how those lies feather with the Enneagram.  Together, we review the most common lies people tell themselves, offer tips for neutralizing those lies, and discuss the importance of rewriting our stories to become the best, truest version of our selves.

Dave Hollis is one half of the dynamic, powerhouse duo that is Rachel and Dave Hollis. The former Disney distribution chief, responsible for the relaunch of the Star Wars franchise, the Avengers series, and mega-hits like Frozen and Beauty and the Beast, left his prestigious post at Disney to lead The Hollis Company alongside wife Rachel Hollis.

Their work exists to afford people the opportunity to change their lives and comes in the form of live events, film and television projects, top-rated podcasts, product lines at retail, digital education and more.

For a chance to win a copy of Dave Hollis’ new book, subscribe to my email list here.

Apr 30, 2020
Dr. Russell Moore on the Enneagram and Morality [S03-039]
57:18

This week Dr. Russell Moore joins Ian Cron for a rich discussion on morality and authenticity. Dr. Moore is president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, the moral and public policy agency of the nations’ largest Protestant denomination.  He is an ethicist, theologian, award-winning writer, and head of the moral and public policy agency of the SBC.  The Wall Street Journal has called Moore “vigorous, cheerful and fiercely articulate.” He’s also the author of several books.

In this episode we talk about:

  • How the Enneagram helps him in his work
  • What is his current existential angst
  • Ways he reconciles his world when he feels misunderstood

 

Apr 23, 2020
Enneagram as a Tool for Families with Justice Skinner (Enneagram 6) [S03-038]
48:03

The Enneagram is a great tool for integration for yourself, but I’d like to encourage you to think of it as a tool that can really impact family dynamics, including strengthening your relationships with your children. When families integrate the Enneagram into their daily lives, not only do parents begin to better understand and distinguish the needs of their children, but children can also learn to recognize their own needs as well as the needs of their siblings.  Having this level of understanding creates so much room for empathy and grace for each other.

One of the questions I hear most often as it relates to the Enneagram and families is, “How old should my child be before they start learning the Enneagram?”  And though I’m not prepared to provide a specific age, I do think it’s important to explore the Enneagram as a tool for young people.

So, today, I’m excited to share with you my conversation with our youngest guest ever…Justice Skinner.  Justice is the eldest son of our very own, Anthony Skinner, and happens to be an Enneagram Six.  This interview is full of wisdom and clarity for Enneagram Sixes of all ages. 

I hope it also gives you a glimpse into the way the Enneagram can operate in a family-system.

 

P.S. Looking for tips on parenting with the Enneagram? Subscribe to my YouTube channel to catch my next series on Enneagram and Parenting beginning April 27th.

Apr 17, 2020
Author Brian McLaren on Internal Friendship (Enneagram 4) [S03-037]
52:21

Today on Typology, I’m thrilled to welcome author Brian McLaren. Brian is an author, speaker, activist and theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good.          

Brian is a faculty member of The Living School, which is part of the Center for Action and Contemplation, and he co-leads the Common Good Messaging Team, which is part of Vote Common Good. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and a leader in the Convergence Network, through which he has developed an innovative training/mentoring program for pastors, church planters, and lay leaders called Convergence Leadership Project. 

His most recent projects include an illustrated children's book (for all ages) called Cory and the Seventh Story and The Galapagos Islands: A Spiritual Journey.  And he’s currently working on Faith After Doubt (Spring 2021) and Do I Stay Christian? (Spring ‘22

In today’s episode, Brian discusses how the Enneagram has:

  • helped him understand the ways that he sabotages himself
  • Allowed him to have grace and appreciation for each of his children
  • Given him permission to become a friend to himself

You’ll also hear how Fours can use their gifts to find their way out of the tunnel at the end of the light.

Apr 09, 2020
ABC News' Paula Faris and the Typing Interview Process [S03-036]
01:07:37

The Enneagram is complicated and nuanced, but human beings are infinitely more complex than the Enneagram. And today’s episode proves just that. Our guest, ABC News correspondent, Paula Faris, exudes a lot of energy from a few different Enneagram types.  Listen as Ian walks Paula through the Typing Interview Process to help her tease out the types she most strongly resonates with, then offers some “homework” for really unearthing her type on her own.

Paula Faris is a senior national correspondent at ABC News and host of the popular podcast Journeys of Faith with Paula Faris, which gives an intimate look at how some of the world’s most influential people lean on faith and spirituality in the best and worst of times. An Emmy Award-winning journalist, Paula previously was co-anchor of the Good Morning America weekend edition, as well as a co-host of The View.

Apr 02, 2020
Part 2: Pastor Louie Giglio's Insights for an Enneagram 3 [S03-035]
33:22

This week we continue our conversation with author, speaker, and pastor Louie Giglio. Louie is the Pastor of Passion City Church and the original visionary of the Passion movement, which exists to call a generation to leverage their lives for the fame of Jesus.  He and his wife Shelley lead the teams at Passion City Church, sixstepsrecords, Passion Publishing and the Passion Global Institute. Louie is the national-bestselling author of Not Forsaken, Goliath Must Fall, The Comeback, and several others.

In Part Two, Pastor Louie gets vulnerable and shares his story of healing as an Enneagram Three.

Today we cover:

  • How to recognize when you’re heading into dangerous territory for yourself

  • What it’s like when an Enneagram 3 hits their wall

Tune in as we continue to reflect on the inner story of an Enneagram Three.

Mar 26, 2020
Pastor Louie Giglio: New Insights for an Enneagram 3 [S03-034]
34:42

I'm thrilled to welcome Pastor Louie Giglio to the Typology Studio. Louie is the Pastor of Passion City Church and the original visionary of the Passion movement, which exists to call a generation to leverage their lives for the fame of Jesus.  He and his wife Shelley lead the teams at Passion City Church, sixstepsrecords, Passion Publishing and the Passion Global Institute. Louie is also the national-bestselling author of Not Forsaken, Goliath Must Fall, The Comeback, and several others.

Louie just recently learned his Enneagram type, so this week we address his questions and reflect on the inner workings of an Enneagram Three.

In Part One, we touch on:

  • How to determine your dominant wing
  • Using the Enneagram as a “lane detection system”
  • Balancing the task list with true self-reflection

And don’t miss next week as we take an even deeper dive into the world and the redemption of those who identify as an Enneagram Three.

Mar 19, 2020
Anne Bogel: How an Enneagram 9 Gets Decisive
43:14

What happens when an Enneagram 9 stops overthinking and starts making decisions? Enneagram Nines have an incredible ability to see all sides of any given circumstance, but that commitment to find the best option consumes an enormous amount of mental energy and can leave them exhausted and stuck. However, when Nines learn to stop overthinking they can start spending more time on things that matter and that bring more peace, love and joy into their lives.

Today’s guest, author Anne Bogel, gets to the heart of decision-making as an Enneagram Nine and shares what perfectionism-driven overthinking looks like and suggests a few disciplines that Nines can use to get out of analysis paralysis.

Anne Bogel is the author of Reading People and I’d Rather Be Reading and creator of the blog Modern Mrs. Darcy and the podcasts What Should I Read Next? and Óne Great Book.  She’s been featured in O, the Oprah Magazine, Real Simple, Bustle, Refinery, The Washington Post and more.  Bogel’s popular book lists and reading guides have established her as a tastemaker among readers, authors, and publishers. Her latest book, Don’t Overthink It offers practical strategies on replacing negative thoughts with positive thought patterns that will make an immediate and lasting difference in how you deal with questions both big and small.

Mar 12, 2020
Mailbag Thursday: An Enneagram Q&A with Ian Cron [S03-032]
38:34

We received such a great response from all of you after our first “Mailbag Thursday,” that we’re doing it again. Today, Anthony pulls a few more audience questions from the bag for Ian to answer.

Topics covered include:

  • Whether trauma in adulthood can lead to type repression

  • What the countertype 4 really looks like

  • Resources on how different types process grief

Tune in to hear what Ian has to say about these topics plus a few more. And for a chance to have your questions answered on-air, leave us a comment on social OR submit your questions right here.

Mar 05, 2020
Hip Hop Artist PROPAGANDA reflects on the Enneagram 3 [S03-031]
53:13

I’m thrilled to welcome today’s Typology guest, PROPAGANDA. Prop is a Christian Hip Hop and spoken word artist/poet, political activist, husband, father, academic, emcee, and an Enneagram Three. He and his wife, University Professor Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty, also host a podcast together called The Red Couch Podcast where they cover everything from pop culture to important social issues – all with the unique perspective, insight and wit only they can bring.

In this episode, we have a candid conversation about how the Enneagram has helped him identify his interior struggles and what “doing his work” looks like.  You’ll learn:

  • What Prop loves about being a Three
  • What triggered Prop to start “doing his work”
  • Specific rituals Prop practices to keep him in the moment

For more information on PROPAGANDA, visit https://prophiphop.com or follow him on social @prophiphop.

Feb 27, 2020
Jill Phillips on the Resilience of an Enneagram 6 [S03-030]
54:04

This week on Typology, I’m excited to welcome my friend, Jill Phillips.  Jill is a singer, songwriter and therapist based in Nashville who has been immersed in the Enneagram for some time now. She has a lot of wisdom to share, especially as it relates to the nuances of being a Six.

Today we’ll touch on:

  • Enneagram stances and how they impact the lens through which each type views the world
  • Ways the Enneagram integrates with other things, such as therapy or recovery
  • The Enneagram Six’s defense mechanisms for managing fear and anxiety

Tune in to this great episode.

Feb 20, 2020
Part 2: Author Jennie Allen on Toxic Thoughts and the Enneagram (Enneagram 7) [S03-029]
34:49

We all walk around thinking toxic thoughts but just because we think something doesn’t make it true.  Our thoughts are charged with emotions and energy, but they are not our enemies. If you treat them as though there is some kind of demonic force inside your head, you’re actually investing them with power they do not have.  They are not in charge of us. We are in charge of our thoughts and we have the ability to change our own narrative.

In Part Two of my interview with Jennie Allen, we examine the toxic thoughts of an Enneagram Seven and how important it is for all of us to not give our thoughts too much power.

Feb 13, 2020
Part 1: Author Jennie Allen on Toxic Thoughts and the Enneagram (Enneagram 7) [S03-028]
34:11

This week on Typology, I’m excited to welcome author, Jennie Allen. Jennie is the founder and visionary behind IF:Gathering, an organization that equips women with gospel-centered resources, events, and community so they may learn more about who God is and disciple others. A sought-after speaker, Allen has taught at Women of Faith, Catalyst, and Q conferences. She is the author of several books, including Restless, Anything, and Nothing to Prove, and her latest book, Get Out of Your Head: Stopping the Spiral of Toxic Thoughts, just released on January 28th.

In part 1 of this 2-part episode, Jennie and I talk about how understanding her own strengths and weaknesses as an Enneagram Seven has played a pivotal role in learning to trust others in leading her organization while allowing her to lean into her own gifts to find happiness and success in both her professional and personal life.

Feb 06, 2020
Part 2: Former Governor Bill Haslam on how to live and lead as an Enneagram 3 (S03-027)
29:23

Each Enneagram Type is beautiful and in its healthy expression is truly fantastic.  When Threes are healthy, they no longer find it important to credentialize their achievements, they become more community-minded and interested in helping others succeed.

In Part Two of my conversation with former Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam, we continue our discussion on the dangers Enneagram Threes face when they over-identify with the role they play in their job and allow perception to matter more than reality.

Jan 30, 2020
Former Governor Bill Haslam: How to Live and Lead as an Enneagram 3 (S03-026)
31:00

This week on Typology, I’m excited to welcome my friend and former Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam.  Bill began his career in business joining his father, Jim Haslam, who was the founder of the petroleum company Pilot Corporation.  He was the CEO of the E-commerce and Catalog Division for Saks Fifth Avenue from 1999 to 2001, Mayor of Knoxville, TN from 2003-2010, and is co-owner of the Tennessee Smokies Minor League Baseball Team. He also happens to be an Enneagram Three.

In part one of this two-part episode, Bill and I talk about what it’s like to live and lead as an Enneagram Three.

Jan 23, 2020
Author Lisa-Jo Baker Sets Boundaries as an Enneagram Two [S03-025]
01:03:58

This week on Typology, I’m excited to welcome Lisa-Jo Baker,  a former attorney and longtime Community Manager at (in)courage, podcast host, best-selling author of The Middle Matters, Never Unfriended and Surprised by Motherhood. She’s also an Enneagram Two.

At their best, Enneagram Twos truly radiate the unconditional, altruistic love of God. They just sort of signal love out into the world in a way that no other type can. But they also have a hard time being able to stop meeting the needs of others which can empty their tanks and lead to resentment. Today, Lisa-Jo shares what has changed for her at mid-life, what led her to embrace the superpowers and the kryptonite of an Enneagram Two, and how she knows when it’s time for her to refuel.

Jan 16, 2020
Mailbag Thursday: An Enneagram Q&A [S03-024]
34:08

We love providing you with new content and great guests each week.  But, as you might imagine, the interviews often spark a lot of questions from our listeners.  In fact, we receive tons of questions every single day.

So, today we’re diving into 2020 with something we’ve been talking about for quite a while...we'll be reading and answering some of your questions on the air.  We’re super excited to finally roll out our first “Mailbag Thursday,” and we hope you are too.  Keep those questions rolling in and maybe we’ll answer your question on the next Mailbag Thursday.

Thanks for listening!

Jan 09, 2020
Betsy Miller on Accepting Fear and Anxiety (Enneagram 6) [S03-023]
54:50

Happy New Year! This week on Typology, I’m thrilled to welcome my friend, Betsy Miller. Betsy is the Director of Finance for Storybrand and also serves as the chairman of the Board of Directors for RESCUE: Freedom International, an organization that is a leading force in the rescue and restoration of survivors of human trafficking.

Betsy and I take a look into the mind of an Enneagram Six, or The Loyalist.  Enneagram Sixes tend to doubt the commitment of others, have difficulty making decisions without outside input, and always consider the worst-case scenario.

Tune in as we explore the Loyalists' basic fear and provide some great tips to help Sixes learn to accept anxiety and doubt on their journey toward health.

Jan 02, 2020
Life, Family and the Enneagram with the Crons (REPLAY) [S03-022]
01:16:34

The Enneagram allows us to build and sustain healthy relationships by appreciating and understanding our own motivations and behaviors as well as those of our friends and family. 

In today’s episode, the Cron family gathers over the holidays to discuss how the Enneagram has helped them grow closer and better understand each other. Listen as they share how their family finds balance and appreciation among each other.   

Dec 26, 2019
Holiday Gift Ideas for each Enneagram Type (REPLAY) [S03-021]
42:19

This week we’re taking a break to enjoy the holidays with our friends and families.  So, we're replaying last year’s episode where we give suggestions for the perfect Christmas gift for each Enneagram type.  We wish you a fabulous couple of weeks and we’ll kick off 2020 with some great new interviews.  Happy Holidays!

Dec 19, 2019
Part 2: Amanda Cook on the Sacred Rhythm of an Enneagram Five [S03-020]
38:49

This week I continue my insightful conversation with singer-songwriter, Amanda Cook. Amanda is a worship leader at Bethel Church and with Bethel Music, GMA Dove Award Winner for Inspirational Album of the Year, and winner of three Covenant Awards from GMA Canada, including Female Vocalist of the Year, Song of the Year, and Praise and Worship Song of the Year for You Make Me Brave.

In this episode, Amanda and I explain:

  • the gift and grip of grief
  • the Fives’ defense mechanism of isolation
  • the importance of staying present in the moment

This conversation brings so much light and clarity to the construction of the Enneagram Five’s personality.  You don’t want to miss it.

Dec 12, 2019
Amanda Cook on the Sacred Rhythm of an Enneagram 5 [S03-019]
36:48

This week on Typology, I welcome a very special Enneagram Five who has done her work and beautifully wraps her words around her experience as a Five.  Our guest, Amanda Lindsey Cook is a singer-songwriter, worship leader at Bethel Church and with Bethel Music, GMA Dove Award Winner for Inspirational Album of the Year, and winner of three Covenant Awards from GMA Canada, including Female Vocalist of the Year, Song of the Year, and Praise and Worship Song of the Year for You Make Me Brave.

In this episode, Amanda Cook:

  • Shares how music helps her connect with her feelings

  • Describes the important practice of embodiment

  • Reveals the sacred rhythm of an Enneagram Five

Our conversation was so rich, we made this a two-part episode.  So, tune in next week as we continue our dive into the attic of Amanda’s mind.

And to add to this amazing episode, I’m super excited to announce that Anthony and I are taking Typology on the road.  I’ll be hosting the first-ever LIVE recording of Typology at the Balboa Theater in San Diego on March 21st. I’ll share more details in the upcoming weeks but in the meantime, mark your calendars for the ticket pre-sale opening next Wednesday at 12:00 pm Central Time. Stay tuned on TypologyPodcast.com or on Instagram, Facebook or Twitter.

Dec 05, 2019
Part 2: John Mark Comer on Focusing his Attention (Enneagram 1) [S03-018]
43:51

In Part two of my conversation with John Mark Comer—author, speaker, pastor, and Enneagram One—we continue our discussion about the Enneagram and why it’s so important to eliminate hurry from our lives. When you think about it, when you feel listened to and attended to, you feel loved by a person. But when we rush from one thing to another, we are unable to focus our attention on those we love most and our relationships are negatively impacted. If instead, we learn to live in a different space than hurry, the love, peace, and serenity we’re really after will follow.

Nov 27, 2019
Part 1: John Mark Comer on Focusing his Attention (Enneagram One) [S03-017)
37:47

What do you pay attention to? When each of us walks into a room, the focus of our attention is different.  An Enneagram Two might look for who they can connect with, an Enneagram Four might focus on what’s missing in the room, and an Enneagram One might notice what needs to be fixed. 

But who is that Two not connecting with?  What is in the room that the Four is not appreciating?  And what is right in the room that the One doesn’t need to fix?

Today on Typology, I begin my conversation with John Mark Comer—author, speaker, pastor, and an Enneagram One—about the importance of “paying attention to what is” and how the Enneagram has taught him to stop and ask the right questions in order to grow and mature throughout his own spiritual journey.  

And don't miss next week, when we continue our conversation in Part Two!

Nov 21, 2019
Al Andrews on Facing Your Sorrows with the Enneagram (Enneagram 2) [S03-016]
54:43

This week on Typology, I’m excited to welcome my friend, Al Andrews. Al is not only a great counselor, author, and speaker, but he is also the director of Porter’s Call, a non-profit offering counsel, support and encouragement to recording artists and their families.

Al gives voice to what it’s like to be a healthy two and how important it is for each of us to face our sorrows in order to heal from our brokenness. We also touch on:

  • What makes a truly great helper

  • The superpower of a Two

  • The dark side of a Two

And you’ll also hear some great self-awareness questions for Twos to ask themselves on their journey toward health.

Nov 14, 2019
Andrew Peterson and the true gifts of an Enneagram 4 (S03-015)
55:18

This week on Typology, I’m excited to welcome my good friend, Andrew Peterson—award-winning singer-songwriter and author. His newest book, Adorning the Dark, just released on October 15, and his 20th Anniversary Behold the Lamb of God Tour is going on now through the end of December.

As two Enneagram Fours, Andrew and I get personal about the strengths and weaknesses of our type and how it has impacted our lives over the years. In this episode, you’ll hear about the Enneagram Four’s:

  • True gifts to the world
  • Inner critic and how it plays out in daily life
  • Characteristic traits and what to watch out for

You’ll also learn an important tip of what NOT to do when a four is melancholic.  It will change how you approach the fours in your life.  

Nov 07, 2019
The Enneagram Made Simple with Don Miller (Enneagram 3) [S03-014]
51:19

This week on Typology, I’m thrilled to welcome my good friend, Donald Miller—best-selling author of Building a StoryBrand, creator of the brand new Business Made Simple University, and Enneagram Type 3.

Don and I have talked about the Enneagram before—mostly from a business perspective. But in this episode, I invited him to get personal and vulnerable, and he graciously obliged. Learn how self-awareness helped Don move from:

  • Insecure to confident

  • Feeling like an outsider to knowing he’s accepted

  • “Unreal” to “real”

  • Living from a victim mentality to owning his own success and happiness

You’ll also get to hear about his powerful formula for interrupting self-limiting thoughts (You’ll want to apply it to your own life today!) and I reveal a massive mistake people make along their journey to self-awareness.

I hope you’ll listen in.


P.S. At the start of the episode, Don mentions that when he finds a particularly helpful book, he immediately goes looking for an online course. As a visual learner, experiencing the content through videos helps him better integrate what he’s learned. If that sounds familiar, Enneagram Made Simple is perfect for you! And here’s an amazing bonus: When you buy Enneagram Made Simple, you get ongoing access to Business Made Simple University—an online learning platform Don and his team at StoryBrand have just launched to help you develop yourself both personally and professionally—all for just $275/year. I’m genuinely excited for you to join me on this journey. Let’s figure out this thing called life—together.

Oct 31, 2019
Part 2, Rev. Becca Stevens on Resisting the Enneagram [S03-012]
56:46

This week Ian welcomes back Becca Stevens--author, priest, and founder/president of Thistle Farms.  Last week, they began to explore Becca’s resistance to the Enneagram. But today, Ian walks Becca through the process of discovering her Enneagram type.

This episode is full of great insights for anyone looking to figure out their type. So, regardless of where you are in the process, what type you are, what type your friends are or your spouse is, you're going to find a lot of really helpful information by the end of the show. 

 

Oct 17, 2019
Mark Batterson on the Blessings of the Enneagram (Enneagram 3) [S03-013]
43:16

This week on Typology, I’m excited to welcome my friend, Mark Batterson—author of 17 books including The New York Times bestseller The Circle Maker, founder and lead pastor of National Community Church, and an Enneagram 3.

In this episode, I invite Mark to get personal about his ministry and his marriage. Learn what the Enneagram taught Mark about:

  • "Performing" grace
  • The cure for the fear of failure
  • How we identify and connect with others when we revealing our own challenges and struggles

At the end, I also share a few growth tips for threes and Mark talks about his new book, Double Blessing: How to Receive It. How to Give It.

Oct 17, 2019
Part 1, Reverend Becca Stevens on Resisting the Enneagram [S03-011]
53:02

Not everyone will rush toward the Enneagram with enthusiasm.  In fact, afraid of being labeled, some people can be really resistant to exploring the Enneagram at all. And that's the case with today's guest.  

In part one of this two-part series, Ian invites one of his favorite people, Reverend Becca Stevens, into the studio to talk about how the experience of trauma impacts personality, to discuss her resistance to the Enneagram, and to begin to explore which Enneagram type she resonates with.

And don’t forget to tune in next week as the conversation gets a bit deeper and we start to land on her type.

Becca Stevens is an author, a priest, and the founder and president of Thistle Farms, a global community of survivors of trafficking and addiction that includes justice enterprises. For her work as an entrepreneur and justice advocate, Becca has been named a White House Champion of Change, a CNN Hero, and holds numerous honorary doctorates. She has been featured on The Today Show, ABC World News, NPR and the New York Times. Her most recent book, Love Heals, was published by Harper Collins. Visit beccastevens.org and thistlefarms.org for further info.

 

Thank you to our sponsors HempFusion, BetterHelp, and Restoring the Soul.

 

Oct 10, 2019
Molly Fletcher on the Enneagram as a Game-Changer (Enneagram 3) {s03-010]
54:45

We live in a world where productivity is a huge emphasis on the lives of lots of people. But as productivity guru, Mike Hyatt advocates, the point of productivity isn't to get more done, it's actually to get more done efficiently so you have more margin to do the things that are more life-giving and make you a more whole person.

As children, Enneagram Threes pick up the message that they are only loved for what they do and how well they do it. In turn, Threes often tend to be competitive, success-oriented, multi-tasking machines who have difficulty slowing down. 

But what happens when Threes learn to trust that if they just stop working and stop moving that everything will still be taken care of?

Today’s guest, trailblazer Molly Fletcher, explains how her strengths as an Enneagram Three--drive to succeed, ability to connect with others, skilled multi-tasker--not only helped her thrive as one of the first female sports agents, but also became a liability until she learned how to slow down, relax, and be more intentional about turning it off.  

Molly Fletcher is a trailblazer in every sense of the word--a rare talent of business wisdom, relationship brilliance, and unwavering optimism. A popular keynote speaker, she shares the unconventional techniques that helped her thrive as one of the first female sports agents in the high stakes, big ego world of professional sports and now a successful entrepreneur.

Formerly, as president of client representation for sports and entertainment agency CSE, Molly spent two decades as one of the world’s only female sports agents. She was hailed as the “female Jerry Maguire” by CNN as she recruited and represented hundreds of sport’s biggest names, including Hall of Fame pitcher John Smoltz, PGA TOUR golfer Matt Kuchar, broadcaster Erin Andrews, and basketball championship coaches Tom Izzo and Doc Rivers.

As she successfully negotiated over $500 million in contracts and built lasting relationships, she also observed and adopted the traits of those at the top of their game. Molly shares her proven approach to negotiating in her company’s Game Changer Negotiation Training workshops, teaching people how to close more deals faster, while strengthening the relationship.

Molly has been featured in ESPN, Fast Company, Forbes and Sports Illustrated. A sought after motivational speaker, she delivers game-changing messages to top companies, trade associations, and teams worldwide.

Molly is the author of four books: Fearless At Work; A Winner’s Guide to Negotiating; The Business of Being the Best; and The 5 Best Tools to Find Your Dream Career.

Molly currently serves as a National Trustee member for the Boys & Girls Clubs of America and on the board of directors for the Intercollegiate Tennis Association (ITA) and the national advisory board for the Positive Coaching Alliance (PCA).

Molly earned a bachelor’s degree in communications from Michigan State University while captaining the women’s tennis team. Molly’s energy and passion for life shines through everything she does. She finds her greatest joy at home in Atlanta with her husband Fred and their three daughters.

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Oct 03, 2019
Jon and Tristen Collins on the Enneagram and Why Emotions Matter (Enneagram 5 and 2) [S03-009]
46:50

Each Enneagram type approaches feelings from a different angle.  Some types can be really in touch with their feelings, while others seem out of touch with their feelings. On today’s episode, our guests Jon and Tristen Collins join Ian to talk about “Why Emotions Matter.” As an Enneagram 5 and an Enneagram 2, you can imagine this married couple couldn’t be more opposite when it comes to their emotions. Tune in as Jon and Tristen explain how the Enneagram has helped them integrate the Enneagram Five’s tendency to keep their feelings to themselves and the Enneagram Two’s outward capacity for empathy and caring to build a stronger marriage and improve their relationships with others.  

Love this week’s episode?  Share Jon and Tristen’s episode on Instagram, Facebook or Twitter and be entered to win a copy of Jon and Tristen’s new book, “Why Emotions Matter.” 

 

About Jon and Tristen:

Jon Collins is a writer and creative director for The Bible Project. He has a BA in Biblical Studies from Multnomah University. Jon is affectionately known by the team as the Architect of Ideas. He is a master of making complex ideas simple and has spent the last decade founding and leading digital media and marketing companies.  Jonathan Collins | @jonpdx

Tristen Collins is a professional counselor with a focus on trauma recovery. She has 13 years of professional experience. Tristen teaches classes at Multnomah University in the graduate Counseling Department as adjunct faculty. She earned a Bachelor’s of Science in Bible & Theology from Multnomah University & a Master’s in Counseling from George Fox University. Tristen lives in Portland, Oregon with her husband, Jon, and their two young boys.

Sep 26, 2019
Enneagram and Coffee with Sarajane Case (Enneagram 7) [S03-008]
48:56

If you had to boil it down, Enneagram Sevens have an underlying fear that when it comes to pain and suffering, they will be unsupported. But in order to satisfy their unmet longing for completeness, for solidness, for wholeness, Sevens need to be able to stick with their sadness and discomfort long enough to work through it with others to foster the types of relationships that stand the test of time.

On today’s episode, Founder of Enneagram and Coffee, Sarajane Case, opens up about how the Enneagram has helped her navigate the joys and sorrows of life, release the grip on her high-vibration lifestyle, and enabled her to sit in the truth that she is not a solo traveler on life’s journey.

Sarajane Case is the Founder of 'Enneagram & Coffee' Instagram account & Podcast.  A writer, coach, and speaker based in Asheville, NC, Sarajane works with enneagram to teach self-love as well as to aid entrepreneurs in building a business that is not only profitable but enjoyable! 

Sep 19, 2019
Allison Fallon on Articulating Your Inner Landscape with the Enneagram (Enneagram 4) [S03-007]
45:25

Enneagram Fours have a unique awareness of their feelings and are highly attuned to their environment. Their gift of connecting deeply with others allows them to see the beauty in all things and to give language to experiences for which others can’t seem to find the words. 

Today’s guest, author Allison Fallon shares how merging the Enneagram with writing has not only helped her heal but has also helped so many others articulate their own internal landscape. 

Allison Fallon is a speaker, coach and author of 10 book, including her memoir Packing Light: Thoughts on Living Life with Less Baggage. Over the past 10 years, she has not only written prolifically, but has coached hundreds of authors to complete their creative projects through her in-person writing workshops, online courses and one-on-one support. She’s been featured on Huffington Post, RELEVANT magazine, and Donald Miller’s Storyline blog. Allison lives in Nashville, Tennessee.

Sep 12, 2019
Knox and Jamie on Pop Culture and the Personality (Enneagram 5 and 7)
55:29

Our guests today are hilarious, smart and up on the Enneagram.  Cohosts of the popular Popcast, Knox McCoy and Jamie Golden join Ian in a conversation about self-awareness, the dynamics of working together as an Enneagram 5 and 7, and how pop culture and personality play into each other.

Knox McCoy loves laughing and making people laugh. Really anything that’s laughter-adjacent, he’s into. He’s also super into the word “swashbuckling” and his dream is to one day use it in a bio. Knox began podcasting in 2011 as a way to talk more about popular culture, and to his extreme surprise, he’s still doing it every week on The Popcast with Knox and Jamie. Knox lives with his wife and three kids in Birmingham, Alabama, where he works as a screenwriter and as the swashbuckling cofounder of The Popcast Media Group.

Knox enjoys movies, football, food, and sleep and prefers them to all be in very close proximity to each other. One time, he saw Common at the airport and talked to him briefly. It was pretty sweet.

Jamie B. Golden has been co-hosting The Popcast with Knox and Jamie since August 2013. It is a nationally ranked, weekly pop culture podcast that’s part deep dive, mostly shallow end. Jamie and Knox also launched their newest podcast, The Bible Binge, in February 2018. Seasons 1, 2, 4, and 4 of The Bible Binge wrapped in the top 3% of all podcasts. Jamie has presented at TEDx, Mom 2.0, Dreamcatchers Conference, Southern Social Summit, See Jane Write, Permanency Conference and will be presenting at Alt Summit in March 2019. Jamie makes her home in Birmingham, Alabama, where she teaches monthly at Church of the Highlands and advocates for foster and adopted children serving as a volunteer for Heart Gallery Alabama.

Jamie enjoys good movies, even better TV, and Chris Pine represented in both. One time, she was hit by a naked drunk driver on the way home from a Walking Dead party. It was pretty sweet.

Sep 05, 2019
Part 2, Mike Pacchione on Public Speaking and the Enneagram [S03-005]
30:14

Last week, speaking coach Mike Pacchione walked through the speaking, or the communication styles, of the first three Enneagram types and how each type can leverage their gift and what to watch out for. Tune in today for part 2, as Mike and Ian cover how to tap into the strengths and avoid the pitfalls for types four through nine.

And, don’t forget to download Mike’s tips for public speaking by Enneagram type.  Just click below for your PDF of the key points for each of the nine types.

DOWNLOAD THE ENNEAGRAM AND PUBLIC SPEAKING PDF
 

About Mike Pacchione

Since 2012, Mike has taught public speaking to nearly 10,000 people across the globe.

(Yes, he gives presentations about presentations. It’s very meta.)

His favorite thing in the world is helping someone with great ideas make those ideas come alive on stage.

(Cue name-dropping)

To that end, he’s helped Olympians such as Scott Hamilton, executives such as Donald Miller, Ryan Delk and Rachel Rodgers, online entrepreneurs such as Pat Flynn and Amy Porterfield, best-selling authors such as James Clear, and let’s not forget our dear friend Ian Cron. Mike also serves as the speaking coach for ConvertKit’s annual Craft + Commerce conference.

While Mike is not at liberty to name the remainder of his clients, suffice it to say that if you have used a computer, credit card or search engine today, you’ve been in contact with one of his past clients.

On a personal note: In 2016, he and his wife began helping a Congolese refugee family transition to life in the United States. It is some of his best and most challenging work. Ever think of how to explain voicemail to someone who’s never used a phone before? Neither had he.

Drop him a line at mike@miketalks.co. If you’d like to see pictures of speakers (sometimes), him sometimes), his family (sometimes) and his dog (often), follow @mpacc on Instagram.

Aug 29, 2019
Mike Pacchione on Public Speaking and the Enneagram, pt. 1 (Enneagram 9) [S03-004]
31:36

Have you ever thought about what makes a great speech or presentation? Whether you’re speaking to thousands this weekend, you're speaking to the Rotary Club, or you just want to be a better communicator in the workplace, your Enneagram type has a specific communication style that plays a part in your effectiveness or lack of effectiveness.  So how do you tap into those strengths and avoid the pitfalls?

Our guest today, speaking coach Mike Pacchione walks us through the speaking, or the communication styles, of all nine types and how each of those nine types can leverage their gift and shares some of the things to watch out for.

Mike’s also put together his great tips for public speaking by Enneagram type.  Just click below to review the key points for each of the nine types.

THE ENNEAGRAM AND PUBLIC SPEAKING PDF
DOWNLOAD NOW

 

About Mike Pacchione

Since 2012, Mike has taught public speaking to nearly 10,000 people across the globe.

(Yes, he gives presentations about presentations. It’s very meta.)

His favorite thing in the world is helping someone with great ideas make those ideas come alive on stage.

(Cue name-dropping)

To that end, he’s helped Olympians such as Scott Hamilton, executives such as Donald Miller, Ryan Delk and Rachel Rodgers, online entrepreneurs such as Pat Flynn and Amy Porterfield, best-selling authors such as James Clear, and let’s not forget our dear friend Ian Cron. Mike also serves as the speaking coach for ConvertKit’s annual Craft + Commerce conference.

While Mike is not at liberty to name the remainder of his clients, suffice it to say that if you have used a computer, credit card or search engine today, you’ve been in contact with one of his past clients.

On a personal note: In 2016, he and his wife began helping a Congolese refugee family transition to life in the United States. It is some of his best and most challenging work. Ever think of how to explain voicemail to someone who’s never used a phone before? Neither had he.

Drop him a line at mike@miketalks.co. If you’d like to see pictures of speakers (sometimes), him sometimes), his family (sometimes) and his dog (often), follow @mpacc on Instagram.

Aug 22, 2019
Best of Season 2: Challenging Your Narrative with Ryan Stevenson [S03-003]
53:24

Though we can’t manufacture great conversations here on Typology, every now and then we do get to experience something deeply vulnerable and truly magical as we did in this episode with singer/songwriter, Ryan Stevenson.  On this episode, we really tackle the concept of owning your own narrative and challenge whether the interpretations of your own story are in fact true. And if they’re not, the Enneagram can help provide you with some clarity about the story you’re living in right now.

So, tune in as we celebrate the end of Season 2 with a replay of one of our favorite episodes. Then stick around through the end for a special treat as we share the new single, “Keep the Faith,” from our very own, Anthony Skinner’s new EP dropping today. For more information about Anthony and his latest projects, you can check out his website or find him on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook.  To get your copy of his new single, just click here.

Aug 15, 2019
Best of Season 2: Instincts and Subtypes with Aaron Niequist [S03-002]
58:47

With so many of our listeners asking about subtypes on a daily basis, we thought we'd celebrate the end of Season 2 with this replay of Aaron Niequist and Ian discussing instincts and subtypes and using them as another way to help hone in on your Enneagram type. 

Aaron Niequist has served as a leader at some of the most influential churches in the country. In 2014, he launched a neo-liturgical, ecumenical, practice-based service at Willow Creek in Chicago. He also created a series of liturgical recordings called A New Liturgy to help people create holy space wherever they find themselves. Niequist and his wife, bestselling author Shauna Niequist, live in the suburbs of Chicago with their two sons. For more information, visit aaronniequist.com and anewliturgy.com.

Aug 08, 2019
Dr. Richard Lindroth, Developing Your Emotional Side as an Enneagram Five [S03-001]
39:27

Others often perceive the interior world of the Enneagram Five, or The Observer, as mysterious.  Known to use the pursuit of knowledge as a defense against a world that seems unpredictable, The Observer can appear to not have or be in touch with their emotions. This is simply not the case.  In fact, The Observer is one of the most misunderstood Enneagram type in terms of emotions and relationships.  Enneagram Fives can actually have very intense emotions, but they just may not express them.  Listen as our guest, Dr. Richard Lindroth takes us into the interior world of The Observer.  He shows us how deeply attuned to beauty and transcendence he is, how he strives to overcome being emotionally distant from himself, and how he’s waking up to the emotional as well as the spiritual components of life.

Aug 01, 2019
Part 2 of Johnnyswim: The Enneagram and Abner (Type 7) and Manager Jay King (Type 4) [S02-052]
55:14

In part two of our interview with JOHNNYSWIM, Abner and Amanda’s manager Jay King joins the conversation and shares how the Enneagram has impacted their personal and working relationship.

 

ABOUT JOHNNYSWIM

As a unit, they face life’s ups, downs, highs, lows, trials, tribulations, tragedies, triumphs, and everything in between. They change, learn, and grow as one. However, Los Angeles band JOHNNYSWIM doesn’t just seem like a family; it is a family. At the core, husband-and-wife—Abner Ramirez and Amanda Sudano—translate the memories, moments, and milestones on their journey into spirited, slick, and soulful anthems steeped in singer-songwriter tradition, yet amplified by alternative experimentation, rock energy, and pop ambition.

The music moves as the couple’s life does, scrapbooking unforgettable experiences in melody like an eternal keepsake of their relationship.

In early 2017, JOHNNYSWIM commenced work on ideas for what would become their 2019 third full-length, Moonlight [Britannia Row Recordings/BMG]. Amidst a series of professional changes and Amanda’s pregnancy with their second child, they kick-started the next chapter."

ABOUT MANAGER JASON “JAY” KING

Jason “Jay” King is the founder and owner of World Citizen Media and a twenty-year veteran of the music industry. He manages Los Angeles based duo JOHNNYSWIM, Propaganda, and Pop writer/artist TRELLA. World Citizen’s core mission is to help BUILD, LAUNCH, and ACCELERATE meaningful projects, with strong foundations, that contribute good back into the world.

Jay’s background includes working with renowned artists including Platinum-selling hip-hop group GRITS, 4th Avenue Jones, Hillsong United, Grammy award winner Israel Houghton, All Sons & Daughters, Fonzworth Bentley, Daniel Bashta, John Mark McMillan, Rhett Walker Band, and more. He has also worked alongside brands such as Tumi Luggage, Macy’s, Fiat, General Motors, Southwest Airlines, St. Jude, and more in order to bring campaigns for his clients to life.

He held the title of VP of A&R positions for both Gotee Records (Universal Music Group) and Integrity Music (Sony BMG) before establishing World Citizen Media.

Jul 25, 2019
Part 1 of Johnnyswim: The Enneagram and Abner (Type 7) and Amanda (Type 9) [S02-051]
01:02:20

What does it sound like when an Enneagram 7 (The Enthusiast) feels safe enough to reveal his true vulnerability?  Tune in as Johnnyswim’s Abner and Amanda explore their deeper side and talk with Ian about how the Enneagram has played a role in their relationship and their band.  This interview was so great we made it a two-part series, so don’t miss next week, when their manager Jay King jumps into the conversation as well.  They'll open up about how the Enneagram has helped them in their personal relationship and their working relationship.

Jul 18, 2019
Carey Nieuwhof on the Enneagram and Self-Leadership, part 2 (Enneagram 8) [S-2-050]
26:41

Last week we began our conversation on self-leadership with former lawyer and founding pastor of Connexus Church, Carey Nieuwhof.  In part two, Carey and Ian continue their discussion with tips on how leaders can manage anxiety and avoid burnout.

Carey Nieuwhof is a former lawyer and founding pastor of Connexus Church. He’s the author of several best-selling books, including his latest, Didn’t See It Coming, and speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change and personal growth. The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast and Carey’s blog at www.CareyNieuwhof.com are accessed by millions of leaders each year.

Jul 11, 2019
Seven Core Challenges of Leadership, feat. Carey Nieuwhof (Enneagram 8) [S02-049]
41:47

How can leaders understand themselves and the world in which they live so they can be optimal in their various roles?  One of the first steps is to strengthen self-leadership because you can’t successfully lead others unless you can first lead yourself.  

In this two-part episode, former lawyer and founding pastor of Connexus Church, Carey Nieuwhof reveals the seven core challenges to leadership and how approaching these challenges through the lens of the Enneagram can help close the gap between who you are and how powerfully you lead your team.

Carey Nieuwhof is a former lawyer and founding pastor of Connexus Church. He’s the author of several best-selling books, including his latest, Didn’t See It Coming, and speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change and personal growth. The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast and Carey’s blog at www.CareyNieuwhof.com are accessed by millions of leaders each year.

Jul 03, 2019
There's Power in Peace, feat. Lysa Terkeurst (Enneagram 9) [S02-048]
42:09

Enneagram Nines, or The Peacemakers, are adaptable, caring, supportive, and easygoing. Their "go with the flow" attitude acts as the manifestation of their need for internal and external peace at all times. To keep this peace, Nines often over-accommodate others in a unconscious effort to avoid conflict, and end up "falling asleep" to their own needs.

But today, Lysa Terkeurst, #1 New York Times bestselling author and Enneagram Nine, explains why it's important for The Peacemaker not to confuse the desire for peace with the disease to please. 

Jun 27, 2019
Leveraging Differences to Motivate Your Team with the Enneagram, Boosterthon's feat. Chris Carneal and Stan Holcombe (Enneagram 7 and 6) [S02-047]
50:15

Chris Carneal, founder and CEO of Boosterthon (Enneagram 7) plans for adventure while his CFO, Stan Holcombe (Enneagram 6) plans for dis-adventure.  So how have these two leveraged their differences to balance each other and grow their company 800% over the past eight years? 

They invest in the culture of their company.

Today, Chris and Stan join Ian to talk about how helping their team understand each other and creating a culture where self-awareness and self-knowledge are held up as values allow them to appreciate and bring out all the positive attributes of each individual while exponentially growing their business.

Jun 20, 2019
Michael Hyatt, Your Leadership Mentor and the Enneagram (Enneagram 3) [S02-046]
39:52

How do you measure success?  What does it look like and feel like?  Often, we measure success by how we appear to others or by the things we accomplish. But for Enneagram Three, Michael Hyatt, success is defined as freedom – the freedom to focus, the freedom to be fully present, and the freedom to be spontaneous.

Sounds great, right? But, how do we get there? 

The first step is to develop self-awareness and self-care as a leadership discipline.  Oftentimes leaders and entrepreneurs are so wired for productivity that they don’t stop to create a margin for self-reflection and self-care that leads to freedom.  

On today’s episode, Ian invites Michael Hyatt, best-selling Author and founder/CEO of Micheal Hyatt & Company, to share his tips for success and finding the balance between productivity and freedom.

 

Jun 13, 2019
Summer Vacation and the Enneagram with Ian Morgan Cron [S02-045]
49:15

Have you ever stopped to think about your travel personality? Or how the ideal vacation for your Enneagram type may be different than others?  We all look for different things when choosing our next vacation…and even the planning process can greatly vary.  With summer approaching and travel on our minds, we asked ourselves ‘what would be the best vacation for each Enneagram type?’ So, Typology producer Anthony Skinner and Ian Morgan Cron popped into the studio to share some great vacation suggestions for your type as well as a few tips of things to be mindful of while on vacation. 

 

 

Jun 06, 2019
Balancing Your Centers of Intelligence, feat. Beatrice Chestnut [S02-044]
36:53

One of the elements about the Enneagram that makes it different than other typologies is the principles behind working with Centers of Intelligence. The three centers of intelligence are the head, heart, and body. Each Enneagram type uses all three centers but approaches the world from one center more than the other two.  Where people often get in trouble is when they over-privilege or overuse one of those centers or even perhaps put down other centers, acting out of balance rather than consciously drawing on all three centers, especially in terms of how they work best and in the right situations, using the right center and the right function for the right purposes. 

Today, Enneagram expert Beatrice Chestnut and I introduce the Centers of Intelligence and talk about ways we can learn to bring them into balance.

Beatrice has taught at Northwestern University and was trained in group facilitation at Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business. She served as President of the International Enneagram Association from 2006-2007 and teaches workshops on the Enneagram internationally, focusing on using it as a tool for leadership development and personal transformation.

May 30, 2019
Moving Toward Wholeness, part 2 feat. Drew and Ellie Holcomb (Enneagram 8 and 7) [S02-043]
33:57

Drew and Ellie Holcomb return this week for part two of our two-part series. Today, Drew shares how he has learned to let go of his need to be in charge and is learning to lead from the heart, and Ellie gives us insight into what makes her feel really alive.

Drew and Ellie Holcomb are a husband and wife Americana duo from Nashville, TN.  Shortly after their marriage in 2006, the couple began touring together with Drew Holcomb and The Neighbors.  The band has supported many national touring acts including Ryan Adams, The Avett Brothers, Don Henley, and Willie Nelson.                        

Ellie is no longer a touring member of "The Neighbors," and has found success in a solo career as a Christian singer/songwriter.  Her albums As Sure As The Sun and Red Sea Road have both topped the iTunes Christian chart. 

Drew Holcomb still tours nationally with Drew Holcomb and The Neighbors and their most recent album, Souvenir, is their most critically acclaimed release yet. 

An Evening with Drew and Ellie Holcomb is a special engagement event, allowing The Holcombs to collaborate once again.

May 23, 2019
Moving Toward Wholeness, feat. Drew and Ellie Holcomb (Enneagram 8 and 7) [S02-042]
43:43

Enneagram Eights and Enneagram Sevens make a high-energy couple. Both types are strong-willed, independent, love adventure, and find happiness in the moment. 

But Eights and Sevens manage their feelings in different ways.  Eights embrace a challenge and express anger easily which can clash with a Seven’s tendency to avoid difficult or painful feelings by reframing things into a positive light. As you’ll hear in today’s episode, Drew and Ellie Holcomb describe how the Enneagram has shifted their marriage by guiding them toward self-reflection, providing them with practical ways to navigate their feelings, and creating a shared understanding of how they each process pain.

May 16, 2019
BONUS REPLAY: Beatrice Chestnut, An Enneagram Two’s Journey Toward Finding Real Love [S02-041]
50:08

In today’s episode, we share a big announcement then replay Ian’s interview with renowned Enneagram teacher, author, consultant, and Enneagram Two, Dr. Beatrice Chestnut Ph.D.  A student of the Enneagram system of personality since 1990, she is the author of Ian’s all-time favorite Enneagram book, The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge.

Enneagram Twos are far more complicated than they appear at first glance. Who better to describe what it’s like to be a Helper than a Black-belt Enneagram expert and teacher. Beatrice was so good we decided to record two shows with her! Whether you’re a Two or not, this show contains so much insight into the Enneagram it will blow your mind!

Beatrice has taught at Northwestern University and was trained in group facilitation at Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business. She served as President of the International Enneagram Association from 2006-2007 and teaches workshops on the Enneagram internationally, focusing on using it as a tool for leadership development and personal transformation.

Books and Resources for Enneagram Twos:

Boundaries: When to Say Yes, When to Say No-To Take Control of Your Life, Dr. Henry Cloud

How to Love (Mindful Essentials), Thich Nhat Hanh

May 09, 2019
Trusting Your Gut as an Enneagram Two, feat. J.J. Peterson (Enneagram Two)
44:08

What do you need in a relationship? When it comes to relationships, how do you interact with and love other people? It’s often in our most intimate relationships that our most true self shows up and we realize that our view of the world is not necessarily the same as others. That’s where the Enneagram comes in.  The Enneagram helps us understand ourselves better, provides a platform for understanding our partners, and teaches us how to walk more healthily in relationships.

In today’s episode, J.J. Peterson processes past relationships with Ian and reminds us all that it’s healthy to trust our gut and acknowledge our own needs.

J.J. Peterson has been many things in his life. From a missionary kid who grew up in Africa to working in production on the Blossom Reunion Special, J.J.’s life has never been dull. Currently, he is a speaker and author who splits his time between Los Angeles and New York. He has a hunger for helping people understand the story of God and what part people play in that story. He has traveled the world, working in Africa, Europe, Asia, South America, and the US, sharing the gospel story through pastoral training, preaching and even touring as an improv comic. He is a filmmaker, a storyteller, and passionate about all things art. J.J. has studied CS Lewis in Oxford, debated theology with filmmakers at the Sundance Film Festival, directed a documentary, had small parts in various television shows and film, but his favorite thing is being called Uncle J.J.

J.J.'s focus is on helping people walk out their faith in meaningful and life-giving ways. J.J. has spoken to people all over the world for audiences of 15 to 15,000, sharing his own story and the story of God. His humor and life experience help people understand grace and love in new ways.

He can design a talk specifically for your community.  Areas of passion include grace, theology and the arts, walking the path of a gay Christian, and God's love.

J.J.'s experience and education allow him to come alongside you or your organization to help share your story on a broader scale.

He offers two types of consulting.  The first is for aspiring authors who are looking to write a book and the second is for organizations who wish to expand their reach.  

J.J. is an author and blogger.  Currently, he is part of the blogging community at Storyline and just completed his first book.  He occasionally posts musings on this site's Blog page. Contact him about writing for your organization.

 

May 02, 2019
Transforming Relationships with the Enneagram, feat. Jeremy and Audrey Roloff (Enneagram 9 and 8) [S02-039]
50:43

How does the Enneagram affect how you communicate with your spouse?  Each Enneagram type has a different communication style which impacts the power dynamic in every relationship – whether that’s a relationship with a coworker, a friend, or a spouse.  The Enneagram helps us understand where others are coming from and creates space for appreciating and negotiating our differences.   

In today’s episode, former co-stars of Little People, Big World, and founders of Beating 50 Percent, Jeremy and Audrey Roloff join Ian on Typology to discuss the ways the Enneagram has shaped how they manage stress, helped them communicate better in their marriage, and transformed their relationship.

 

Jeremy Roloff grew up on a 110-acre farm in Helvetia, Oregon, alongside his twin brother and two younger siblings. Jeremy helps his parents, who are both dwarfs, run Roloff Farm’s pumpkin patch, which brings in tens of thousands of visitors from around the world every weekend in October. Jeremy has a degree in professional photography, and is the co-founder of Beating50Percent.com, a marriage ministry on a mission to revive covenant marriages. The couple also hosts the top-rated Behind the Scenes podcast. Jeremy grew up filming for a reality television show called Little People, Big World, which has been following his family since he was twelve years old. He is a 9 on the Enneagram, dad to Ember, loves old cars, and will never pass up an evening by the campfire.

Audrey Roloff is passionate about motivating women to always believe in the more that is within them through Christ. She spreads this mission through her devotionals, Always More clothing line, and blogs on life, faith, marriage and motherhood. Audrey is the co-founder of beating50percent.com, a marriage ministry, with her husband Jeremy. The couple also hosts the top-rated Behind the Scenes podcast. Audrey was the captain of the Oregon State Cross Country and Track team where she earned a degree in Marketing and Entrepreneurship. She’s an 8 on the enneagram, mom to Ember, drinks her coffee beige, loves all things floral and the Pacific Northwest.

Apr 25, 2019
Balancing Intellect with Emotion, feat. Dan Haseltine (Enneagram 5) [S02-038]
01:01:31

Enneagram Fives, or the Observers, operate from a withdrawing stance and value their privacy. Their unconscious strategy consists of collecting knowledge and information to defend against what feels like an overwhelming, unpredictable, chaotic world.  They build walls around themselves and retreat into their mental realm for a lot of internal processing.  And though they may appear detached there is actually a lot of vulnerability beneath the surface. The challenge for a Five is to not over-rely on their intellect but rather learn to connect with the heart by bringing their feeling up to the same level of their intellect.

In today’s episode, songwriter, author, and activist, Dan Haseltine opens up to Ian and shows us how the powerful intellect of an Enneagram 5 can successfully blend with their connection to the emotional space.

Dan is a songwriter, founder, author, speaker, advocate; He is best known as lead vocalist for Christian alternative folk rock group Jars of Clay. Haseltine has performed vocals, piano, accordion, percussion and most recently, melodica, while with Jars of Clay. He has had different artistic titles, including songwriter, producer, film composer, music supervisor, and art designer.

Haseltine is also the founder of the non-profit organization, Blood:Water Mission, where he currently sits as part of the board of directors. He is a regular writer and speaker about worship musicHIV/AIDS in Africa, social justice and church reform. Haseltine is also a regular columnist for Relevant Magazine, and has contributed articles to MoodyCCM MagazineChristianity TodayWorld Vision, Campus Life and Beliefnet.[2]

Founded by the multi-platinum, GRAMMY Award-winning band, Jars of Clay and activist Jena Lee Nardella, Blood:Water began as a call to personalize the HIV/AIDS crisis in Africa. Blood: Water is an agency that partners with Africa grassroots organizations to address the water and HIV/AID crises. They provide technical, financial, and organizational support to strengthen their reach and effectiveness to the communities they serve.

He is married to Katie Haseltine and together they have two children, Noah and Max.

Apr 18, 2019
Facing Anxiety and Depression with the Enneagram, feat. Scott Sauls (Enneagram 3) [S02-037]
43:41

Often when we approach the Enneagram we tend to think that everybody can fit neatly into one category. But the Enneagram is more like a color wheel than it is a set of boxes around a circle. There are shades as you go around the spectrum.  Each of us is different than the people around us.  So, the more we come to know ourselves, to accept our own uniqueness and brokenness, the more we can begin to understand others. 

In fact, each Enneagram type can actually help balance each other. And when we learn to speak into each other’s lives with a scalpel rather than a dagger, with the posture of gentleness, we can even correct each other’s excesses in a way that’s whole-making.

In today’s episode, senior pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, Scott Sauls, discusses the role the Enneagram has played through his seasons of anxiety and depression, and how others have helped keep him in balance.

 

Apr 11, 2019
The Enneagram and The Next Right Thing, feat. Emily P. Freeman (Enneagram 4) [S02-036]
49:53

How does your Enneagram type affect your decision making?  Each Enneagram type has different motivations and makes decisions in different ways.  So, when faced with making a decision, sometimes we need to go against the grain of how we normally do things in order to figure out what is the next right thing.

In today’s episode, author Emily P. Freeman joins Ian to offer recommendations on decision making based on each Enneagram Type and the Centers of Intelligence.   

Apr 04, 2019
Addiction and Recovery with the Enneagram, feat. Nate Larkin and David Hampton [S02-035]
01:08:04

What are you addicted to? I don’t believe there is one person on this planet who isn’t addicted to something.  And when I say addiction, I don’t necessarily mean addiction to substances.  Addiction is a compulsion to continue doing something despite harmful consequences.  And if we look at addiction through the lens of the Enneagram, we can view the passion of each Enneagram type as an addiction. 

The Enneagram helps bring to awareness what these unconscious addictions and compulsions are so we can start to unwind the influence and power they have over our lives.  In other words, we can move into recovery from the worst side of our type.

So, in today’s episode, we talk about each Enneagram type’s compulsion and what recovery (or sobriety) for that type looks like.

Mar 27, 2019
Top 25 Enneagram Resources [S02-034]
35:13

The Enneagram is a transformational tool for self-awareness and self-knowledge.  It helps uncover the most unconscious parts of who we are.  But how? Once you identify your Enneagram type, what’s the next step?  On today’s episode of Typology, Ian shares his top 25 Enneagram resources for discovering the why behind what you do and taking the next steps toward becoming your authentic self.

Mar 21, 2019
Honoring Our Differences, feat. Rabbi Evan Moffic (Enneagram 3) [S02-033]
46:34

How do we use the Enneagram to honor our differences? First, we have to be willing to look at our own story and bravely explore our own dark side.  One of the beauties of the Enneagram is that it helps us become more self-aware, to own our dark side, and to begin to live with more compassion and appreciation for difference.  When we truly understand the Enneagram we see that one type is not better than another. Each type is different and that difference enriches us.

But if we’re afraid to look into our shadow side, our dark side, the shadow side of us can take forms of discrimination, and we're all guilty of it in one way or another.

In today’s show, we invited Rabbi Evan Moffic to join us again to talk about how a lack of appreciation of differences, or even indifference, can foster an environment of antisemitism and discrimination of all types, and what we can do to begin to unwind or reverse the momentum of antisemitism and all forms of discrimination. 

 

About Rabbi Evan Moffic

Rabbi Evan Moffic is a renowned author and Jewish scholar. He’s a high honors graduate of Stanford University and the youngest rabbi of a major congregation in the United States. He is an Enneagram three, AKA the performer, and loves and uses the Enneagram to support his own journey toward personal transformation, and as a tool in his work with other people, as well.

Mar 14, 2019
Is Your Story True? Exploring Narrative through the Enneagram
38:41

Have you ever stopped to ask yourself, “What if the story I tell myself and others about who I am and who I'm becoming isn't true?”  As children, we all construct stories, or narratives, to help make sense of our environment. These childhood interpretations set in motion the patterns of behavior that shape our personality…or how we show up for life.  But, when you can understand the false story around which you have organized your life, then you can begin to play with that story a bit to find your true story. And, though you can’t change the facts of what has happened in your life, you can change the way you interpret them.  

The truth is, that if you want to experience enduring transformation, you have to discover your false story, decouple yourself from it and begin to live the truth of your new story.

In today’s episode, we’ll walk through the false “stories” that each Enneagram type needs to let go of in order to allow your true self to emerge.

Mar 07, 2019
Part 2: How the Enneagram Impacts Emotional Intelligence and Leadership, with Scott Allender [S02-031]
31:58

Last week, Scott and Ian talked about how the Enneagram can help you in the workplace. This week, they continue the conversation highlighting the way the Enneagram feeds emotional intelligence, fosters empathy and compassion, increases productivity, and ultimately leads to better bottom line results and a happier place to work.

About Scott Allender: Scott is a seasoned executive with expertise in global people leadership and organizational development. He is the co-creator and custodian of a multiple-award-winning Leadership Development Program and has built a broad curriculum of custom people-development workshops and initiatives that improve organizational performance by helping everyone to become the best versions of themselves.

Scott is currently the Senior Vice President of Talent Strategy & Development at Warner Music Group, overseeing learning and development around the globe, and travels extensively facilitating development workshops. For the past 3 years, Scott has also worked as a part-time organizational consultant for Church of the City here in Tennessee, and occasionally donates his time as a leadership consultant for ‘America’s Kids Belong’ -- a wonderful Nonprofit Organization working to end the foster care and adoption crisis in the U.S.

Scott is a Myers Briggs and Hogan practitioner, an Emotional Intelligence Coach, and holds multiple Senior HR Certifications.

Feb 28, 2019
How the Enneagram Impacts Emotional Intelligence and Leadership, pt. 1 with Scott Allender [S02-030]
25:20

How can the Enneagram help you in the workplace?  How does knowing a person’s personality style help you in leadership development? In today’s episode, Scott Allender, Senior Vice President of Talent Strategy & Development at Warner Music Group, shares how he has used the Enneagram in team building and leadership development. He explains how the Enneagram helps provide insight into how the different people on your team function in the workplace, how you can support them in different phases in their career, why it’s important to understand how different people see the world, and how their particular personality style affects their decision making and affects their analysis.  

About Scott Allender: Scott is a seasoned executive with expertise in global people leadership and organizational development. He is the co-creator and custodian of a multiple-award-winning Leadership Development Program, and has built a broad curriculum of custom people-development workshops and initiatives that improve organizational performance by helping everyone to become the best versions of themselves.

Scott is currently the Senior Vice President of Talent Strategy & Development at Warner Music Group, overseeing learning and development around the globe, and travels extensively facilitating development workshops. For the past 3 years, Scott has also worked as a part-time organizational consultant for Church of the City here in Tennessee, and occassionally donates his time as a leadership consultant for ‘America’s Kids Belong’ -- a wonderful Nonprofit Organiation working to end the foster care and adoption crisis in the U.S.

Scott is a Myers Briggs and Hogan practitioner, an Emotional Intelligence Coach, and holds multiple Senior HR Certifications.

Feb 21, 2019
What's Your Stance? Part 2, feat. Amy Grant (Enneagram 9) [S02-029]
41:53

In Part 2 of our conversation with singer/songwriter Amy Grant, we continue to explore stances to hone in on whether or not she’s actually an Enneagram Nine. Discussing the differences between types in the gut triad and how they each relate to anger and focusing on a few key instinctual responses helps Amy find her type. Listen through to the end as Amy shares a special song with us before her interview ends.

About Amy Grant

Amy Grant has built a long, successful career on music that matters. Ever since she burst on the scene as a fresh-faced teenager bringing contemporary Christian music to the forefront of American culture, the Nashville native gained a reputation for creating potent songs that examined life’s complexities with an open heart and keen eye. She became the first artist in Christian music to have a platinum record and went on to become a crossover sensation, her musical gifts transcending genre boundaries to make her a household name.

She’s earned six Grammy Awards and numerous Gospel Music Association Dove Awards as well as three multi-platinum albums, six platinum albums and four gold albums. She’s achieved 10 Top 40 pop singles and placed 17 hits on the Top 40 Adult Contemporary chart as well as scoring numerous hits on the contemporary Christian charts. A longtime and active Nashville resident, Grant is as well known for her philanthropy as her music. She and husband, Vince Gill, are tireless in their efforts to aid worthy causes.

Feb 14, 2019
What's Your Stance? feat. Amy Grant, part 1 of 2 [S02-028]
32:46

The Enneagram is by far the most effective tool for deepening self-knowledge, sharpening self-awareness, and improving relationships. It helps to identify your unique personality and guides you toward living as your authentic self.  But what if you’re stuck and haven’t yet figured out your type?

Today’s guest, singer/songwriter Amy Grant struggled to find her type too.  So, we tackled the struggle from a different angle…using stances.  In fact, one of the quickest ways to identify your Enneagram type is to first look at the different social styles, or stances, of the types rather than focus on each type individually. 

The social styles of the nine Enneagram types are divided into three stances: assertive, compliant, and withdrawn.  Stances refer to the basic posture of each type and how they move in the world.  The Assertive Stance (Types 3, 7, 8) moves against others and takes action to get their needs met.  The Compliant Stance (Types 1, 2, 6) moves toward others to meet their needs externally. While the Withdrawing Stance (Types 4, 5, 9) moves away from others by turning inward to find fulfillment.   

So, if you’re struggling to find your type, ask yourself, “Do I move toward others, with others, or away from others?”  

 

About Amy Grant: 

Amy Grant has built a long, successful career on music that matters. Ever since she burst on the scene as a fresh-faced teenager bringing contemporary Christian music to the forefront of American culture, the Nashville native gained a reputation for creating potent songs that examined life’s complexities with an open heart and keen eye. She became the first artist in Christian music to have a platinum record and went on to become a crossover sensation, her musical gifts transcending genre boundaries to make her a household name.

She’s earned six Grammy Awards and numerous Gospel Music Association Dove Awards as well as three multi-platinum albums, six platinum albums and four gold albums. She’s achieved 10 Top 40 pop singles and placed 17 hits on the Top 40 Adult Contemporary chart as well as scoring numerous hits on the contemporary Christian charts. A longtime and active Nashville resident, Grant is as well known for her philanthropy as her music. She and husband, Vince Gill, are tireless in their efforts to aid worthy causes.

Feb 07, 2019
Challenging Your Narrative, with Ryan Stevenson [S02-027]
47:45

In order to make sense or find meaning in our lives in early childhood, we develop narratives that sort of explain our life experiences. We often choose specific incidents that we string together into the plot we now live.  But, have you ever stopped to ask yourself if the story you are living is true?

In today’s episode with singer/songwriter Ryan Stevenson, we really tackle the concept of owning your own narrative and challenge whether the interpretations of your own story are in fact true. And if they’re not, the Enneagram can help provide you with some clarity about the story you’re living in right now.

We hope this episode encourages you to reflect on your own story.  To get started, simply ask yourself:

  • Are my interpretations about who I am and the way the world is true?
  • Is my story helping me simply “survive” life rather than to live it fully?

And remember, you have the freedom and the power to change your story.  You can revise your interpretations and see your true story through a new lens.

 

About Ryan Stevenson  Following a seven-year stint as a paramedic, Pacific Northwest native Ryan Stevenson signed an exclusive agreement with Gotee Records in 2013 after capturing TobyMac’s attention by co-writing the No. 1 and Grammy nominated single “Speak Life," His first recording for the label was the Holding Nothing Back EP in 2013, which garnered the Top 25 single “Holding Nothing Back. This was followed by 2015’s full-length album Fresh Start, which featured the No. 1 radio single “Eye of the Storm”. With three No. 1 singles (two as an artist and one as a co-writer), a GRAMMY® nomination, Billboard Music Award nomination, a Dove Award (2017), ASCAP honors and major tour bills with the likes of TobyMac, MercyMe, Newsboys and Matt Maher, among others, Ryan has already distinguished himself as a rare talent whose unique perspective guides his honest lyrics and sonic sensibilities. 

Jan 31, 2019
The Challenger or The Perfectionist? Part 2 of 2 with Kirsten Powers, CNN Political Analyst [S02-026]
29:29

In order to truly use the Enneagram to better understand our own personality, it is important to have an understanding of, not just the unconscious motivations, but also the impact that subtypes and wings have on each type.

In part two of our conversation with CNN Political Analyst, Kirsten Powers, we dive into the role subtypes and wings play in determining your type.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

  • how understanding unconscious motivations can help you find your type.

  • how the finer distinctions of subtypes and wings can make one type look completely different.

  • how friends and family pointing out your blind spots can help on your journey toward transformation.

 

Kirsten Powers currently writes for USA Today, and is an on-air political analyst at CNN. She appears regularly on Anderson Cooper 360, CNN tonight with Don Lemon, and The Lead with Jake Tapper. Before joining CNN, Kirsten worked at Fox News as a political analyst and contributor, where she appeared regularly with Special Report with Bret Baier, Fox News Sunday, the Kelly File, the O'Reilly Factor. Her latest book, The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech, can be purchased on Amazon and you can find her podcast, co-hosted by Jonathan Merritt at www.thefaithangle.com.

Jan 24, 2019
The Challenger or The Perfectionist? Part 1 of 2 with Kirsten Powers [S02-025]
31:52

Let’s face it…there’s a deep complexity to the Enneagram.  Yes, for some, it is extremely easy to nail down their type.  But for others…well, it’s more complicated.  Why?  First, everyone exhibits behaviors that look like a particular type.  And to make it even more difficult, there are an infinite number of expressions of each type, some of which will look nothing like you on the exterior, but are still a unique variation of that particular type.

However, we can’t determine our type by our behaviors.  We really have to dig down into what’s driving those behaviors and ask ourselves what is the underlying motivation behind my behavior?

When our guest, author and CNN political analyst, Kirsten Powers, reached out about her uncertainty in typing herself as a One or an Eight, we had to help her land on something.

Kirsten Powers currently writes for USA today, and is an on-air political analyst at CNN. She appears regularly on Anderson Cooper 360, CNN tonight with Don Lemon, and The Lead with Jake Tapper. Before joining CNN, Kirsten worked at Fox News as a political analyst and contributor, where she appeared regularly with Special Report with Bret Baier, Fox News Sunday, the Kelly File, the O'Reilly Factor.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

  • Ways to recognize subtle nuances between Type One and Type Eight
  • How the drive for justice plays out as Type One vs. Type Eight
  • The relational and professional similarities among Type One and Type Eight 

And don’t miss next week’s episode as we dive into some finer distinctions of the One and Eight.

 

Jan 17, 2019
Leveraging Your "Weird" for Success, feat. CJ Casciotta (Enneagram 3) [S02-024]
54:49

In today’s episode, Enneagram Four and author of “Get Weird: Discover the Surprising Secret to Making a Difference,” CJ Casciotta joins us to talk about becoming more comfortable in your own unique self and how using your innate ability to be creative can lead to success in your personal and professional life.  

Each of us has our own version of “weird” that is calling to be brought forth into the world.  No matter what you sort you gravitate toward, the reason you're here on Earth is to bring something new that wasn't there before.  Knowing what makes you weird is the best thing you can offer your art, your business, your friends, your family, and yourself.

So, tune in to hear how CJ leverages his weird to not only find success himself but to help others find theirs.

 

About CJ

For over 15 years CJ has helped some of the world's biggest brands discover their unique identity and share it creatively including Lululemon, The United Nations, MGM Studios, and Whole Foods. His work has been featured on national media including CBS, MTV, Amazon Prime, and The Huffington Post. Lately, He’s been sharing some of his ideas, speaking at places like TEDx, Saddleback Church, Story Conference, and Charity:Water. For more information on CJ, visit http://getweirdbook.com

Jan 10, 2019
Finding Beauty in Imperfection, feat. Amy Julia Becker (Enneagram 1) [S02-023]
36:49

Enneagram Ones, or the Perfectionists, often have an idealized view of how things should be and constantly strive to improve themselves, others, and the world.  With a strong desire to do the right thing and not make mistakes, Ones tend to control feelings that they deem inappropriate to the point that it is difficult for them to access or express negative emotions, such as anger, fear, or even anxiety. But learning to understand that all emotions are actually very human and a part of each of us can be very healing and freeing for a One.

On today’s episode, Ian sits down with friend and author, Amy Julia Becker, to talk about how admitting her own needs, and learning to accept herself as beautiful and broken, vulnerable, needy and gifted has been a huge life lesson in perfectionism.

About Amy Julia Becker

Amy Julia Becker is the author of White Picket Fences: Turning toward Love in a World Divided by Privilege (NavPress, 2018). She is also the author of Small Talk: Learning From My Children About What Matters Most (Zondervan, 2014), A Good and Perfect Gift: Faith, Expectations and a Little Girl Named Penny (Bethany House), named one of the Top Books of 2011 by Publisher’s Weekly, and Penelope Ayers: A Memoir. A graduate of Princeton University and Princeton Theological Seminary, her essays about faith, family, and disability have appeared in the Washington Post, USA Today, Christianity Today, the Christian Century, and online for The New York Times, ABCNews, the Atlantic, Vox, and The Huffington Post. Amy Julia is a member of INK: A Creative Collective. She lives with her husband Peter and three children, Penny, William, and Marilee in western CT.

Jan 03, 2019