The Stoop

By Hana Baba and Leila Day

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The Stoop podcast digs into stories that are not always shared out in the open. Hosts Leila Day and Hana Baba start conversations and provide professionally-reported stories about what it means to be black and how we talk about blackness. Come hang out on The Stoop as we dialog about the diaspora.

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Ep 39: For Ima
We're at that moment — again. Another black person gone, and another, and another. It hurts. Everyone seems to be watching, and everyone seems to have questions. 
But this isn't new, and we're not here for everyone. We're here for 14-year-old Ima. 
Jun 11, 2020
Ep 38: That Black Tax

For many of us, success and 'making it' also means you're expected to help out and support your family. Whether you're Black American, or a child of Black immigrants- that 'Black Tax' is often something you're going to be thinking about. Today we get personal with a story from Mwende Hinojosa who explains how What's App brings her Kenyan family together but it can also be very...taxing.  

May 21, 2020
Ep 37: Together and apart

We're getting into the myths surrounding the coronavirus and discussing how Covid-19 could have a different impact on black people. We also hear from workers in the service industry who share their stories about how they are pushing through. Let’s stoop it out together.

Apr 01, 2020
Ep 36: Black on air

The pen, the mic, the camera - all powerful tools that people in media have used to get our attention, but for Black women journalists, getting a hold of that power and keeping it, has been a tough path to navigate. From how we sound, to what we look like, to how we say thangs. We explore the profession with journalist Jemele Hill, and hear about the past from veteran journalist Belva Davis, while Hana and Leila get into some of their own experiences in the field.

Feb 28, 2020
Ep 35: Je suis noir

In this episode we meet Deborah from Brooklyn, who’s about to pack her bags and move to  Paris. It's a place she’s always adored, along with the likes of other famous African Americans; Richard Wright, James Baldwin, and Josephine Baker to name of few. Many black Americans have moved there for a particular reason, many were exhausted by the racial dynamics and conversations in the U.S. , just like Deborah,  who feels these are conversations that go in circles. France has prided itself on its citizens being “French” before identifying with an ethnicity and this is something that appealed to Deborah who’s chosen not to “lead with her blackness”. In this episode we go to France to talk about how black people are identifying and discuss some of the tensions behind a word like “noir” that can be seen as an insult for some and pure pride for others.

Feb 07, 2020
Ep. 34: The Black Introverts

Why might things be different for a Black introvert? When writer Sequoia Holmes broke it down in her essay "Black Women aren't allowed to be Introverted"  we wanted to stoop this out some more. So we sent our introverted producer Jessica Jupiter out to find answers. In this episode we're digging  into how it can be different to be an introvert while Black. We also hear from nonprofit organizer and educator Kelly Wickham Hurst who has focused on correcting the ways we treat introverted Black students.

Jan 09, 2020
Ep 33: All Black Everything?

Should we support Black no matter what? We discuss the pressure to conform with liking all things Black, even when you don’t. Whether it’s Black art, the Black politician, or a hashtag. The feeling that we have to always align is tied to a psychological concept called 'social desirability bias.' We’ll break down why we do it with a Black psychologist from Stanford, hear from a culture critic who says we shouldn’t succumb to it, and hosts Hana and Leila question their own motives.

Dec 19, 2019
EP. 32: In Deep Waters

Season 4 is here! In this episode we're talking about Black folk and water. Yes, swimming.  We hear from a man who nearly lost his life while on vacation, and take a deeper look into our relationship to swimming. There are a lot  of jokes and myths within our community about why we don’t swim more, but what isn't funny is that nearly 70% of African American kids don't know how to swim. Today, we break down stereotypes that we've even heard our own family members reinforce. 

Editor: Jen Chien
Sound Designer: Seth Samuel
Associate Producer: Natalie Peart






Dec 04, 2019
The Stoop Season 4 Promo

Season 4 is right around the corner, here's a sneak peak. We'll be live in December! We'll be talking about what it means to be a black introvert, asking if we're romanticizing about being black in Paris? We'll be hearing a gripping story about child discipline , talking about IVF and much more. Keep that feed warm, coming back at you!


Dec 02, 2019
Ep. 31 The Unexpected Family

It's our season finale and we're getting into issues of the fam; the things that our families say and do that have helped us or hurt us. We get into what it's like to gain a family unexpectedly and hear from a family whose cultural differences and jealousy nearly divided them. In this special episode we also stoop it with author, therapist, Netflix’ Fab 5 member, and unexpected father Karamo Brown. Keep it in the fam. We'll be back with a brand new season soon! 

Jun 27, 2019
Ep. 30: Black Enough

Whether it's the music we hear, the clothes we wear, or the way we talk- a lot of us at some point have felt 'not Black enough.' In this episode, we go deep with comedian W. Kamau Bell who's felt awkward in Black circles and before Black audiences, and we'll meet Black Benatar- a drag queen who has struggled and come to terms with performing Blackness.

Jun 05, 2019
Ep 29: Sounds from a Well Read Black Girl

What’s a sound that embodies blackness? In this episode we ask around and then get deeper into conversation with Glory Edim, the founder of Well Read Black Girl, a Brooklyn based book club and online community. What’s it mean to be well read? This special Stoop episode was recorded live at WNYC's The GreenSpace, and goes deeper into conversations about what it means to return to Africa, how to create inclusive community, and really, how black are we?

May 09, 2019
Episode 28: Killer Mike calls it like it is

Killer Mike is a rapper, activist and father who once tried to live 3 days buying only from black businesses -- and wasn’t happy with what he found. We sit down and stoop out what it means to buy Black; how to do love, not just say it; and why Mike doesn’t like to say “n-word” when he could straight-up say “n***er.”


We're trying new things! Check out this interview style Stoop Talk!

Apr 24, 2019
Episode 27: Assalam Alaykum, BMW

Being Muslim, black and a woman; that’s something that deserves some stoopin’ out. Anti-blackness in Muslim America is real, and in this episode we look at how it often seems to fall on BMW’s (Black Muslim Women). What happens when the shade or discrimination comes from your own people?

Apr 11, 2019
Episode 26: Mad Hotep

Sometimes conversations stop when you walk into a barbershop, but sometimes they keep going no matter how uncomfortable you may feel. In this episode we unpack what it means to be a hotep; from personal experiences, to the root of the word, to online tensions. We stoop it out with producer Josh Gwynn who shares his story of maneuvering through some hotep spaces, while on a simple mission, to look fly.

Mar 27, 2019
Episode 25: You may not get it, but I love you

What can love look like when your partner might not ‘get it’? In this episode we talk to interracial couples having difficult conversations around race, love and identity at a time when racial tensions are high. We also hear from Professor Shantel Buggs author of the study ‘Dating in the Time of #BlackLivesMatter’, who interviewed dozens of women to see whether awareness of racial issues mattered when they were choosing a partner, asking how socially aware do  you expect your non-Black partner to be?



Mar 07, 2019
Episode 24: What's in your blood?

Thin nose, high cheekbones, kinky hair, what you got in your blood? Your blood won’t lie, but does it determine your identity? We meet two women- Uzaz Shami, a Nubian woman who didn’t expect her results, and Shonda Buchanan who has always identified as Native American but isn’t always accepted as that.  What percent of an ethnicity makes you part of that group, and does it even matter?

Feb 20, 2019
Episode 23: The Nod

It's that silent acknowledgement. That "I see you," moment. But not everyone is a nodder. We send producers on the streets to see if the nod is still going strong, and hear from one hesitant nodder who breaks down why it's not always been her thing.

Feb 07, 2019
Episode 22: Gullah Geechee

The Stoop goes to the low country of South Carolina to uncover some of the hidden history of the Gullah Geechee. The mix of African cultures in the deep south eventually transformed into a unique language and culture that is Gullah. Lean in for this one. We outchea!


Jan 24, 2019
Episode 21: Rhythm & Spirit

We end this season by going deep into how we express ourselves at the intersection where spirituality meets artistic expression - and how that intersection can be complicated. 

We meet Alia Sharrief- a Black Muslim woman hip hop artist who raps about her faith, Black girl magic, and social justice - despite the haters.

And Leila takes us to an Afro-Cuban dance class to get in touch with the Orisha, and has some questions about others, that lead to questioning herself. 


Sep 06, 2018
Episode 20: My child's hair

Our babies and their hair. We hear how two parents discuss hair with their kids. Author Robert Trujillo wrote a book about his son, Furqan's, first flat top. Then we meet  Fatima Jones and he daughter Aponi, and listen in on an intimate conversation about hair, pride and love. 

To find the book Furqan's First Flat Top, by Robert Liu-Trujillo.

Illustration by Robert Liu-Trujillo

Aug 14, 2018
Episode 19: Summer Series- Buffalo Soldier

It's summertime and we're sharing some stories, portraits essays and things that you've been telling us you want to hear more of. In this episode we hear from Shelton Johnson, a park ranger at Yosemite National Park who reenacts the story of a Buffalo Soldier who used to patrol the park as a ranger. A complicated history that comes with both pride and shame.

Aug 01, 2018
Episode 18: Afro-vegan stirrin' the pot

We dig in to our food, our tradition. Does eating plant-based make you bougie? We talk to Afro- Vegan chef Bryant Terry who shows us what it means to be a dope Blegan (Black vegan). Then we get into the Jollof rice wars- who makes it better? Ghana, Nigeria? It's the world cup of Jollof!

Jul 12, 2018
Episode 17: Black, Queer and Free

Black homophobia is real- and we meet two influential people who are fighting it - each in their own inspiring way. Bishop Yvette Flunder, and author and activist Darnell Moore are Black, queer and free. This episode is delves into the language we use, the things that need to be said, and the celebration of black boy joy and intimacy. 

Jun 21, 2018
Ep. 16: Black Kiwi, thick skin

He is from Rwanda, grew up in New Zealand and lives in Australia.  Architect, Jean Yves Dushime has a unique diaspora story, not just because of where he lives but because of how he has chosen to handle situations that would make many of us very uncomfortable. In this episode we talk about the decisions of one Black Aussie to deal with tough situations in order to move his own way. 


Music by JBlanked


Jun 06, 2018
Ep. 15: The African Writer's Dilemma

Who gets to choose which African stories get told? We meet three writers, each of them pushing against a mostly white US and UK-based publishing industry in their own way.

Guests:Siyanda Mohutsiwa, Sarah Ladipo Manyika, & Namwali Serpell 


May 16, 2018
Episode 14: The birth of Solomon

He was the perfect little brown baby. His name was Solomon. Thick curly hair, chubby legs and eyes closed with dark black lashes. Solomon's story is one that affects thousands of families whose babies are twice as likely to die before reaching the age of one, and Black mothers are up to four times more likely to die from pregnancy related causes. This story is personal as we go deep into a personal story behind the statistic.Two sisters remember a child lost, search for answers, and discover the answer to a lingering question.

May 02, 2018
Episode 13: Are you a 4C?

When Oprah's longtime hairstylist Andre Walker created the hair typing system, he didn't expect it to become what it is today.  The chart has helped a lot of Black naturals understand their textures but it's also created some tensions when it comes to the lack of  representation of 4C women. From our hair history, to  hair salons, and a chat with Mr. Walker himself--we get to the bottom of why some people feel tangled up in this hair chart. 


Special thanks to Author: Ayana Byrd: Untangling the Roots of Black Hair in America 


Apr 17, 2018
Episode 12: Breaking the line

When a ballet teacher told co-host Leila Day that her back should be straight on the ground, no light shining through, and Leila couldn't make it happen, her dreams to be a ballet dancer disappeared. The world of classical ballet is extremely difficult to break into, and for those who do, there's a lot that comes with it, especially when you're "the only". This episode looks at breaking the line.


We talk about ballet, bodies, and skin tone with former ballerina Aesha Ashe, and dance educator and writer Theresa Ruth Howard.

Apr 04, 2018
Episode 11: Pretty for a dark-skinned girl

Season 2 is here! We explore the history of colorism, from Compton to the markets in Sudan. Dissecting a Hollywood casting call, and asking why are Black people bleaching their skin? It gets personal.


Mar 21, 2018
Season 2 Preview

The Stoop is back. Warm those feeds and get ready for a full season of going deep into stories from the Black diaspora. We can't wait to show you what we've been up to! 

Hosts Leila Day (the 'fro)  and Hana Baba (the scarf) 

Mar 12, 2018
Stoop Bonus: Black women are something else

Writer, mother and part-time hippie Stacia Brown is making our hearts sing and fingers snap with all she has to bring in this essay about the strength of Black women and the myth of the angry Black woman.


Listen in and relax. 

Dec 14, 2017
Episode 10: Stoop on the couch

It's been a season! Now we wrap things up with a visit to a therapist. Talking some things out and shaking it out with some line dancing senior citizens. 


Keep following us on  twitter:  @thestooppodcast 

or on Facebook @thestoop


Nov 23, 2017
Episode 9: Back to Africa

We explore the phenomenon of African immigrants returning to the continent from the US through the stories of three 'returnees'. Guests include actress  Maame Adjei, award-winning author Yaa Gyasi, and radio entrepreneur DJ Taha Roubi.

Nov 08, 2017
Episode 8: Angry black woman

Tone it down, Angry black woman. A conversation with two black women in the corporate world who sometimes tone it down in order to avoid stereotypes. What's behind the Angry black woman stereotype, and what's it doing to people psychologically? We stoop this out with some corporate girlfriends and psychiatrist Dr.Loma Flowers.

Oct 25, 2017
Episode 7: Coming to America

Many immigrants imagine the US to be heaven. A a moneymaking, perfect paradise but when they get here, it's a different story. We meet African immigrants who tell their stories of Coming to America, and what the wish they knew before they came.



Oct 11, 2017
Episode 6: Music from the hyphen-line


When you're from an immigrant community, becoming a successful musician isn't an easy journey. We meet 3 dope diaspora musicians: Meklit Hadero, Oddisee, and AlSarah - each with their own struggle that comes with belonging to two identities- African, and American.

For more about the featured artists check them out!


Alsarah and the Nubatones


Meklit Hadero

Episode art by: @neemascribbles

Sep 27, 2017
Episode 5 : You called me African what?

"You're black, but you ain't BLACK black."

Like many African kids in the US, Stoop host Hana Baba was ridiculed for being from Africa. She was called names like "African booty scratcher." And the name calling came only from the black kids. What's behind this black disconnect and where did it come from? The Stoop explores this with a young Sudanese American and her African American friends.

Sep 13, 2017
Episode 4: The problem with "sounding white"

What's it mean when someone says you "sound white"? In this episode we explore voice, and unpack what it means linguistically, socially, and professionally when you're black but supposedly "sound white."

As always, we love you for loving The Stoop. Drop some stars on our podcast and put down a review - we appreciate every new set of ears!

Chinaka Hodge (@chinakahodge)


Sound Design: Seth Samuel
Illustration: Neema Iyer (@Neemascribbles)
Digital Production/PodOps: Megan Jones

Aug 30, 2017
Episode 3: PAUSE

Let's hit pause and take a breath.

Hosts Leila Day and Hana Baba break from the chatter of stoop talk to send out a special double episode that allows for a moment of grace, a place where one can catch a breath and regroup in order to move forward.

What revives and sustains your soul? For Leila, it's dance. For Hana, it's music.

Like what you hear? Drop some stars on The Stoop and put down a review in iTunes or Stitcher - we thank you as always for listening.


Contributors: Leila Day & Hana Baba
Sound Design: Leila Day 
Stoop logo: Jef Cunningham
Digital Production/PodOps: Megan Jones

Aug 15, 2017
Episode 2: Why is it so hard for some black folks to say I love you?

"It's not hard for a black man of my caliber to say I love you."

But is it? 

Many black people say they never heard I love you much growing up, including both Leila and Hana, hosts of The Stoop. In Episodes 2, we examine the reasons why we don't hear I love you, and what that means. We talk to inmates at San Quentin state prison, a professor who studies black male emotional expression, and Stooptalk with Al Letson about I love you in his home.

Did you hear I love you growing up? #blacklove #blackfamilies

Want more Stoop? Go to our website There you will find videos, audio shorts, behind-the-scenes peeks, and more. We drop preview audio clips, photos, and all kinds of interesting etcetera on social - so follow us on Twitter, and Instagram (@thestooppodcast) and on Facebook (stooppodcast) to get the latest and to see the conversations around our shows. Have an idea or question? hangout(at) 

Like what you hear? Drop some stars on The Stoop and put down a review - we thank you for listening.


Thanks to Al Letson (@Al_Letson) and Serie McDougal (@SerieMcdougal) for contibuting to this episode.

Sound Design: Chris Hoff

Illustration:  Neema Iyer

Digital Production/PodOps: Megan Jones



Jul 27, 2017
Episode 1: Nice tribal wear. Now take it off.

Episode 1: An exploration into the controversy over appropriation of African cultures by African Americans. Are African Americans appropriating when they wear a dashiki, tribal markings, or a head wrap? Hosts Leila Day and Hana Baba stoop this out in the debut episode of The Stoop podcast, their first stop, Afropunk.

For more info, videos, photos, illustrations and audio shorts, go to our website and follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.


Jul 19, 2017
Preview The Stoop

Preview Season 1 of The Stoop to hear the funk and flavor of the stories to come in Season 1, starting Summer 2017.  Subscribe now to make sure you don't miss an episode. We'll be dialoging about the diaspora all season long.

The Stoop podcast digs into stories that are not always shared out in the open. Hosts Leila Day and Hana Baba start conversations and provide sound-rich stories about what it means to be black, and how we talk about blackness.

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Jul 03, 2017