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Jun 19, 2021
Fantastic interviews, indepth analysis, and interesting insights into Canadian politics.
The Herle Burly podcast is a commotion of insights, arguments, opinions, and an impossibly loud laugh or two, hosted by David Herle.
Episode | Date |
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The Chiefs: Have vs Have Not vs Have Not Heard Budget
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Apr 24, 2024 |
2024 Herle Burly Budget Lock-up: Meredith, Robson, and Speer
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Apr 18, 2024 |
Canada's Care Economy with Armine Yalnizyan
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Apr 11, 2024 |
Peter Bethlenfalvy, Ontario's Minister of Finance
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Apr 03, 2024 |
R.J. Simpson, Premier of the Northwest Territories
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Mar 28, 2024 |
The State of Québec Politics with André Pratte
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Mar 21, 2024 |
Gary Doer, 20th Premier of Manitoba
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Mar 14, 2024 |
Presidents... of three Canadian Universities: Carr, Gertler, and Stoicheff
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Mar 07, 2024 |
Back to Balance with Don Drummond
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Mar 01, 2024 |
Shifting votes (and why) with Nick Kouvalis
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Feb 23, 2024 |
Joe Walsh: The complete Trump takeover of the Republican Party
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Feb 15, 2024 |
State of climate progress with John Stackhouse
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Feb 09, 2024 |
Marc Miller, Canada's Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
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Feb 01, 2024 |
Frances Donald: A Very Challenging Economic Environment
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Jan 25, 2024 |
Journalist View from Ottawa with Campbell Clark, Vassy Kapelos, and Aaron Wherry
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Jan 19, 2024 |
Carolyn Bennett
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Jan 11, 2024 |
Jason Kenney, 18th Premier of Alberta
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Dec 21, 2023 |
David L. Cohen, United States Ambassador to Canada
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Dec 15, 2023 |
Canadian Housing with Ron Butler and Mike Moffatt
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Dec 05, 2023 |
The Chiefs: Walking Through The Valley
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Nov 30, 2023 |
Trevor Tombe: Canada's Finances and the Canada Pension Plan
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Nov 23, 2023 |
2023 Fall Economic Statement: Meredith, Robson and Speer
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Nov 16, 2023 |
Don Guy
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Nov 09, 2023 |
John Ibbitson
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Nov 02, 2023 |
Dalton McGuinty, the 24th Premier of Ontario
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Oct 25, 2023 |
Welcome to Hotel Pacifico with McDonald, Hammer, and Meggs #BCpoli
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Oct 19, 2023 |
Ontario Liberal Leadership Debate 2023
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Oct 12, 2023 |
Alister Campbell: "The Harris Legacy"
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Oct 05, 2023 |
Jean-François Perrault, live at TRBOT!
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Sep 29, 2023 |
Marit Stiles, Leader of Ontario's NDP
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Sep 22, 2023 |
The Honourable Brian Tobin
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Sep 14, 2023 |
Todd Smith, Ontario's Minister of Energy
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Sep 07, 2023 |
Dr. Andrew Boozary
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Aug 31, 2023 |
Jonathan Wilkinson, Canada's Minister of Energy and Natural Resources
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Aug 25, 2023 |
Canadian Cities with Jennifer Keesmaat
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Aug 17, 2023 |
Canadian Pollsters: Dan Arnold and David Coletto
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Aug 09, 2023 |
Evolving News Media Landscape: Brown, Ling and Spitale
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Aug 02, 2023 |
Minister Marc Miller
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Jul 26, 2023 |
The State of Canadian News and Journalism: Coyne, Napier, and Wells
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Jul 19, 2023 |
The Herle Burly Q1 2023 best of reels, selected from the Air Quotes Media #Vault
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Jul 06, 2023 |
Perrin Beatty
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Jun 30, 2023 |
The Chiefs: Mid-Mandate Resets
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Jun 21, 2023 |
Randall Bartlett and Lindsay Tedds
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Jun 15, 2023 |
Jennifer Welsh
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Jun 08, 2023 |
Alberta Votes Postmortem: Janet Brown & Jason Markusoff
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Jun 01, 2023 |
The Interns: Alboim & Fox
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May 25, 2023 |
Michelle Rempel Garner
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May 18, 2023 |
Shimon Fogel
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May 11, 2023 |
Omar Alghabra, Canada's Minister of Transport
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May 03, 2023 |
A Fresher Economic Take: Frances Donald
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Apr 27, 2023 |
Sean Fraser, Canada's Minister of Immigration
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Apr 20, 2023 |
Neil Hetherington
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Apr 13, 2023 |
Randy Boissonnault, Minister of Tourism and Associate Minister of Finance
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Apr 07, 2023 |
Grocery Bag Budget: Meredith, Robson and Speer
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Mar 29, 2023 |
Fred DeLorey: 2021 National Campaign Manager, Conservative Party of Canada
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Mar 23, 2023 |
Banking, Inflation, and Government Spending: Amanda Lang and Kevin Carmichael
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Mar 17, 2023 |
Financial Accountability, the Economy and Healthcare
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Mar 10, 2023 |
CONFLICT: Stag and "Dough" with Pinkerton + Smith Cross
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Mar 01, 2023 |
The Chiefs: Crafting a Budget
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Feb 23, 2023 |
Rachel Notley
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Feb 16, 2023 |
David Dodge
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Feb 10, 2023 |
Fixing and Protecting Canadian Healthcare: Marchildon & Martin
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Feb 01, 2023 |
Andrew Furey, Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador
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Jan 25, 2023 |
Beautiful #BCpoli: McDonald & Meggs
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Jan 20, 2023 |
The Chiefs: Brodie, Murphy, and Topp
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Jan 13, 2023 |
Political Ads of the Year: Matthews & Rosenberg
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Dec 22, 2022 |
Canadian Policy Files of the Year: Meredith, Robson and Speer
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Dec 17, 2022 |
Canadian Journalism & Political Stories of the Year: Delacourt, Fife and Scoffield
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Dec 09, 2022 |
Canada's Labour Movement with Sharleen Stewart and Lana Payne
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Dec 01, 2022 |
Electrifying Canada
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Nov 25, 2022 |
Alberta politics and polling with Brown & Petty
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Nov 17, 2022 |
Steve Paikin: An Intimate Biography of Canada's 17th Prime Minister
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Nov 10, 2022 |
David Nabarro
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Nov 03, 2022 |
"From Left to Right"
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Oct 27, 2022 |
Andrew MacDougall
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Oct 20, 2022 |
Jim Stanford
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Oct 14, 2022 |
Niigaan Sinclair
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Oct 06, 2022 |
Ken Dryden and Dave Bidini
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Sep 29, 2022 |
Michael Balagus
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Sep 21, 2022 |
Paul Palango
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Sep 14, 2022 |
The Housing Market with Butler and Webster
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Sep 08, 2022 |
David Axelrod
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Sep 01, 2022 |
Monte McNaughton, Ontario's Minister of Labour
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Aug 26, 2022 |
Kevin Carmichael
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Aug 19, 2022 |
Canada's Health Care System with former Premiers Clark, McNeil, and Wynne
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Aug 11, 2022 |
Brian Topp
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Aug 03, 2022 |
Keith Boag
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Jul 28, 2022 |
Philippe Fournier
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Jul 21, 2022 |
Mike McDonald
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Jul 15, 2022 |
Best Of: George Will
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Jul 06, 2022 |
David Pepper: Laboratories of Autocracy
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Jun 30, 2022 |
François-Philippe Champagne, Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry
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Jun 22, 2022 |
Elamin Abdelmahmoud
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Jun 15, 2022 |
Kory Teneycke, 2022 Ontario PC Campaign Manager
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Jun 07, 2022 |
Jean Charest
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May 31, 2022 |
Ryan Jespersen
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May 27, 2022 |
Brigitte Legault
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May 20, 2022 |
Armine Yalnizyan
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May 13, 2022 |
Greg Lyle: Ontario Polling Data
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May 05, 2022 |
Jonathan Wilkinson, Canada's Minister of Natural Resources
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Apr 29, 2022 |
Peter Weltman: Pre-Election Fiscal Outlook
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Apr 21, 2022 |
Seamus O'Regan, Canada's Minister of Labour
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Apr 14, 2022 |
Housing Panel: Latif, Moffatt, Petramala & Vaughan
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Apr 07, 2022 |
Ambassador Sabine Sparwasser
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Apr 01, 2022 |
Bill Fox
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Mar 23, 2022 |
Conservative Leadership Contest Panel with Matthews, Paradis, and Waler
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Mar 16, 2022 |
Justin Ling
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Mar 10, 2022 |
Carolyn A. Wilkins
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Mar 03, 2022 |
Pollster Panel: Who are the alienated Canadians?
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Feb 23, 2022 |
Prime Minister Joe Clark
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Feb 16, 2022 |
David Lametti
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Feb 09, 2022 |
Peter Routledge
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Feb 02, 2022 |
Tim Gitzel
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Jan 26, 2022 |
Anne McLellan & Lisa Raitt
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Jan 20, 2022 |
Dr. Jean Clinton
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Jan 14, 2022 |
Elly Alboim
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Jan 07, 2022 |
Best Of: The Right Honourable Brian Mulroney
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Dec 29, 2021 |
Anita Anand
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Dec 22, 2021 |
Bill 21 with André Pratte
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Dec 17, 2021 |
Mohamad Fakih
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Dec 09, 2021 |
Steve Paikin
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Dec 03, 2021 |
Chris Arnade: why "back row" Americans don’t want what the liberal elite want them to want
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Nov 25, 2021 |
Climate and inflation with John Stackhouse
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Nov 17, 2021 |
Patrick Bishop
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Nov 10, 2021 |
Global Economics & Inflation with Frances Donald
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Nov 03, 2021 |
Michael Wernick
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Oct 27, 2021 |
Frank Graves: post election analysis
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Oct 20, 2021 |
Catherine McKenna
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Oct 13, 2021 |
Anne McGrath
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Oct 06, 2021 |
Journalist Panel with Delacourt, Petty, and Vastel
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Sep 29, 2021 |
Brad Wall
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Sep 23, 2021 |
Final Voting Intentions Revealed | Through the Looking Glass: Swing Voters 2021
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Sep 19, 2021 |
ATTACK! Campaign Contrast Ads with Matthews & Rosenberg
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Sep 15, 2021 |
Attack Ads & Post-Debate Reaction | Through the Looking Glass: Swing Voters 2021
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Sep 13, 2021 |
NDP Election Panel
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Sep 09, 2021 |
Voter Reaction to Issues & Attack Ads | Through the Looking Glass: Swing Voters 2021
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Sep 06, 2021 |
Getting Traction + Shifting Attitudes | Through the Looking Glass: Swing Voters 2021
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Aug 30, 2021 |
Political Advertising Analysis with Matthews & Rosenberg
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Aug 26, 2021 |
Party Ads + Week 1 Impressions | Through the Looking Glass: Swing Voters 2021
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Aug 23, 2021 |
Issues + Party Leaders | Through the Looking Glass: Swing Voters 2021
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Aug 16, 2021 |
NDP Election Panel with Ball, Housser, and Leichnitz
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Aug 11, 2021 |
Introducing "Curse of Politics: The Herle Burly Political Panel"
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Aug 08, 2021 |
Hamish Marshall (originally aired following the 2019 federal election)
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Aug 03, 2021 |
John Webster + the Political Panel
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Jul 27, 2021 |
Seamus O'Regan + the Political Panel
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Jul 20, 2021 |
Party Platforms with Bardeesy, Leichnitz, and Speer + the Political Panel
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Jul 13, 2021 |
Senator Hassan Yussuff + the Political Panel
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Jul 06, 2021 |
Camille Quenneville and David Goldbloom + the Political Panel
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Jun 29, 2021 |
Mike Greenley + the Political Panel
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Jun 22, 2021 |
Tom Marshall + the Political Panel
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Jun 15, 2021 |
Senator Marc Gold + the Political Panel
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Jun 08, 2021 |
Frances Donald + the Political Panel
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Jun 01, 2021 |
Prime Minister Brian Mulroney + the Political Panel
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May 25, 2021 |
André Picard + the Political Panel
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May 18, 2021 |
Senator Dennis Dawson + the Political Panel
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May 11, 2021 |
John Boyko + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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May 04, 2021 |
Mark Carney + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Apr 28, 2021 |
Budget Panel: Bezanson, Nicholson, Stanford + the Political Panel: Byrne and Reid
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Apr 21, 2021 |
Don Drummond + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Apr 14, 2021 |
Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes + the Political Panel
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Apr 06, 2021 |
Peter Weltman + the Political Panel
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Mar 30, 2021 |
Michelle Rempel Garner + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Mar 24, 2021 |
Nick Saul + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Mar 16, 2021 |
Through the Looking Glass: Race in Canada (EP 3 of 3)
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Mar 11, 2021 |
Ian Brodie + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Mar 09, 2021 |
Through the Looking Glass: Race in Canada (EP 2)
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Mar 04, 2021 |
Former Premier Stephen McNeil + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Mar 02, 2021 |
Through the Looking Glass: Race in Canada (EP 1)
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Feb 25, 2021 |
Jonathan Wilkinson + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Feb 23, 2021 |
[TRAILER] Through the Looking Glass: Race in Canada *available Feb 25*
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Feb 19, 2021 |
Jagmeet Singh + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Feb 16, 2021 |
Celina Caesar-Chavannes + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Feb 10, 2021 |
Perry Bellegarde + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Feb 02, 2021 |
Steven Del Duca + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jan 26, 2021 |
Frances Donald + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jan 20, 2021 |
Annamie Paul + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jan 12, 2021 |
Kathleen Petty + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jan 05, 2021 |
Frank Graves
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Dec 29, 2020 |
Peter Mansbridge
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Dec 22, 2020 |
Amanda Lang + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Dec 15, 2020 |
LIVE! The #PoliticalPanel Year in Review with CJPAC
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Dec 08, 2020 |
Margaret MacMillan + the Political Panel
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Dec 01, 2020 |
Adrienne Spafford + the Political Panel #MailbagEdition
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Nov 25, 2020 |
Jeff Rubin + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Nov 17, 2020 |
Peter Weltman + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Nov 10, 2020 |
VP-Elect Harris senior advisor, Ace Smith
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Nov 06, 2020 |
The morning after #ELXN2020 with David, Jenni, and Scott
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Nov 04, 2020 |
Stuart Stevens of the Lincoln Project and author of "It Was All A Lie"
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Oct 28, 2020 |
Mike McDonald + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Oct 27, 2020 |
Keith Boag and Neil Macdonald + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Oct 20, 2020 |
Jennifer Welsh + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Oct 14, 2020 |
John Stackhouse + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Oct 06, 2020 |
Mike Schreiner + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Sep 30, 2020 |
Alex Marland + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Sep 22, 2020 |
Episode 100: Wade Davis + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Sep 15, 2020 |
The Political Panel's Return of Reid
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Sep 09, 2020 |
The Political Panel: Jenni Byrne and Chris Ball
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Sep 01, 2020 |
Kevin Carmichael + the Political Panel with Jenni Byrne and James Moore
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Aug 26, 2020 |
Chris Arnade + the Political Panel with Jenni Byrne and Peter Donolo
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Aug 18, 2020 |
John Anzalone, chief pollster to VP Joe Biden + the Political Panel with Jenni Byrne and Allan Gregg
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Aug 11, 2020 |
Liz Stuart + the Political Panel with Jenni & Chris
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Aug 04, 2020 |
Paul Palango + the Political Panel with Jenni and Chris
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Jul 28, 2020 |
Kate Bezanson + Herle and Byrne go one-on-one
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Jul 21, 2020 |
David Mulroney + the Political Panel (with a twist)
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Jul 14, 2020 |
Phil Fontaine + the Political Panel
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Jul 07, 2020 |
Celina Caesar-Chavannes + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jun 30, 2020 |
Pablo Rodríguez + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jun 23, 2020 |
Jennifer Robson + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jun 17, 2020 |
Andrea Horwath + the Political Panel
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Jun 09, 2020 |
Andrew MacDougall + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Jun 02, 2020 |
Cathal Kelly + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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May 26, 2020 |
Robert Fife of the Globe and Mail + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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May 19, 2020 |
Pat Armstrong + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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May 12, 2020 |
Jane Philpott + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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May 06, 2020 |
Michael Bryant on civil liberties and freedoms + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Apr 28, 2020 |
The Economists + MAILBAG with Jenni and Scott
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Apr 21, 2020 |
Dr. Danielle Martin + The Political Panel
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Apr 15, 2020 |
Political Panel Cage Match
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Apr 07, 2020 |
Canada's covid19 economic response with Scott Clark + the Political Panel with Jenni and Scott
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Mar 31, 2020 |
COVIDeo Conferencing with our Political Panel: Jenni Byrne & Scott Reid
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Mar 24, 2020 |
Neera Tanden
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Mar 17, 2020 |
The Political Panel: Jenni, Scott and the Coronavirus!
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Mar 10, 2020 |
Former Premier Kathleen Wynne: her story, her politics, and her legacy.
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Mar 05, 2020 |
The Political Panel LIVE! Blockades | Teck | Bloomberg
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Feb 29, 2020 |
Keith Boag and Neil Macdonald: the demise of journalism and American democracy
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Feb 18, 2020 |
The Political Panel: Quarantined
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Feb 11, 2020 |
Ontario Liberal "No Goat Rodeos" Leadership Debate
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Feb 07, 2020 |
John Stackhouse: addressing the great problems of our world
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Jan 30, 2020 |
Byrne after Reiding?
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Jan 23, 2020 |
The Herle "Byrne-y" interview with Pat Sorbara
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Jan 15, 2020 |
It's 2020 and we're back with Jenni & Scott!
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Jan 09, 2020 |
A broken legal system with author Bruce Gibney
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Jan 02, 2020 |
Hamish Marshall, campaign manager to Andrew Scheer
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Dec 24, 2019 |
LIVE! from Ottawa #PoliticalPanel
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Dec 17, 2019 |
Ken Dryden: Canada's Goalie on Hockey & Politics
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Dec 10, 2019 |
Game of Thrones (Speech): Scheer edition
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Dec 03, 2019 |
A Great Canadian: Ralph Goodale
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Nov 26, 2019 |
A Very Sweary Swearing-In Ceremony Breakdown
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Nov 21, 2019 |
Poli Panel Discusses Don Cherry, Andrew Scheer, and Canadian Cabinetry
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Nov 12, 2019 |
Canadian Talk-Radio Legend, Charles Adler
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Nov 06, 2019 |
After some deep reflection... go f*%k your hat
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Oct 29, 2019 |
The Minority Morning After the Night Before
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Oct 22, 2019 |
LIVE from the Pilot #Elxn43 Panel
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Oct 18, 2019 |
Closing Arguments #elxn43
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Oct 17, 2019 |
The final week #elxn43
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Oct 15, 2019 |
The "Goat Rodeo" Debate
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Oct 08, 2019 |
The Seinfeld Election: about everything and nothing
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Oct 01, 2019 |
Truth in Advertising: Dennis Matthews & David Rosenberg
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Sep 28, 2019 |
Raw Politics with Jenni Byrne and Scott Reid
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Sep 23, 2019 |
Trudeau Crisis Response
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Sep 19, 2019 |
War Room Week with Jenni Byrne & Scott Reid
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Sep 17, 2019 |
Election Advertising Breakdown with Matthews + Rosenberg
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Sep 13, 2019 |
The Eve of 338 Writs with Jenni Byrne, Scott Reid, and special guest Éric Grenier
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Sep 11, 2019 |
#ELXN43 with Jenni Byrne & Scott Reid
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Sep 04, 2019 |
Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada
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Aug 21, 2019 |
Bob Shrum
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Jul 30, 2019 |
Titans of Business: Michael McCain, President & CEO of Maple Leaf Foods
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Jul 21, 2019 |
The economy with Jim Stanford
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Jul 08, 2019 |
George Will
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Jun 18, 2019 |
next generation Liberal: Nate Erskine-Smith
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May 27, 2019 |
Prairie populism with the Hon. Monte Solberg
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May 08, 2019 |
Fighting for women in health care with SEIU Healthcare President Sharleen Stewart
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Apr 28, 2019 |
Women in politics with Kate Graham, host of the podcast "No Second Chances"
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Apr 07, 2019 |
Amanda Litman, co-founder of the ‘Run for Something’ PAC
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Mar 31, 2019 |
Jeff Pearlman, author of “Football for a Buck” about Trump and the USFL
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Mar 24, 2019 |
Prime Minister Paul Martin, part 2
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Mar 17, 2019 |
Prime Minister Paul Martin, part 1
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Mar 10, 2019 |
Jerry Dias
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Feb 03, 2019 |
Conservative Politics with Hugh Segal
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Jan 20, 2019 |
Progressive Politics with Bob Rae
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Jan 10, 2019 |
Political Year in Review with #ScottWatt
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Dec 22, 2018 |
California Dreamin’: midterm reflections with California pollster, Ruth Bernstein
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Nov 22, 2018 |
The Anthropocene Project: Burtynsky, de Pencier and Baichwal
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Oct 10, 2018 |
Hot Take: Chantal Hébert on the Quebec Election Results
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Oct 02, 2018 |
Averell "Ace" Smith, US Democratic Party Strategist
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Sep 19, 2018 |
Christy Clark, the 35th Premier of British Columbia
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Aug 20, 2018 |
Dave Bidini
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Jul 17, 2018 |
Trailer to Dave Bidini Episode
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Jul 14, 2018 |
Kory Teneycke, campaign manager to Doug Ford.
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Jun 21, 2018 |
Thomas Frank, author of Listen Liberal
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Mar 30, 2018 |
SEASON TWO: ONTARIO PC LEADERSHIP RACE WITH WATT AND REID
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Mar 07, 2018 |
Chuck Klosterman, Part 2
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Dec 28, 2017 |
Chuck Klosterman, Part 1
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Dec 19, 2017 |
Rob Bowman, Part 2
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Nov 28, 2017 |
Rob Bowman, Part 1
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Nov 23, 2017 |
Robbie Robertson, Part 2
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Nov 15, 2017 |
Robbie Robertson from The Band
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Nov 07, 2017 |
Sarada Peri, former Obama speechwriter
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Nov 01, 2017 |
Nick Kouvalis
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Oct 25, 2017 |
Ken Dryden, Part 2
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Oct 17, 2017 |
Ken Dryden, Part 1
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Oct 11, 2017 |
Denise Donlon, Part 2
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Oct 03, 2017 |
Denise Donlon, Part 1
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Sep 26, 2017 |
Episode 1 - David Axelrod
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Sep 19, 2017 |
Trailer
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Sep 06, 2017 |