Safe For Work

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Life at work can be funny, challenging, ridiculous, and -- yes, even satisfying. Here at Safe For Work, we're all about helping you find balance and happiness in your career. After all, many of us spend more time with our co-workers and clients than with our friends and family. Hosts Liz Dolan and Rico Gagliano give advice on everything from how to avoid burnout on the job to how to fake an illness when you're calling in sick. We also talk to experts about those moments at the office that can challenge the best of us: negotiating raises, knowing when it’s time to move on...or dealing with that annoying office mate with no boundaries. From Wondery, the network behind Business Wars, Safe For Work is helpful career advice that's lively and fun, just like your work life should be. In every episode, Liz and Rico talks with callers, business leaders and noted know-it-alls who share their hard-earned wisdom from the trenches. Liz Dolan is the former head of marketing at Nike, The Oprah Winfrey Network and National Geographic and host of the podcast Satellite Sisters. Rico Gagliano is a contributor to The Wall Street Journal, former host of podcast Dinner Party Download, reporter on the public radio show Marketplace, and co-author of BRUNCH IS HELL.


Episode Date
Introducing The Lead: Your New Daily Sports Fix
00:08:13

From Wondery and The Athletic, The Lead is the first daily sports podcast that will bring you one big story each day from The Athletic's all-star team of local and national sports reporters. Subscribe now to hear new episodes each weekday morning: http://wondery.fm/TheLeadED

Sep 17, 2019
Knowing When to Ditch Your Gig
00:38:19

“Should I Stay Or Should I Go.” It’s not just a classic punk tune, it’s a question you, our apparently totally punk listeners, ask us pretty much every week. When is it time to leave a job?  And how do you go about doing it?

Tess Vigeland feels your pain. She’s a journalist, writer and podcast host. And maybe her proudest gig was being Rico’s boss years ago! Vigeland left a successful but draining career to pursue her dreams, and even wrote a book about it. It’s called “Leap.” She chats with Liz and Rico today about how she was able to make that change.

Then we hear from listener Kaitlin who wants to know the magic formula to hire the right person. For some extra tips on how to find a great employee, here’s an article by SFW regular expert guest Kat Boogard, writer at The Muse. And in this week’s Bad Advice segment, Liz and Rico hash it out about how much management should share with their team.

Last but not least, listener Patricia needs some help with some tricky office dynamics, where she’s being asked to do a lot outside of her job description.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


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Sep 16, 2019
How Much Employee Loyalty Is Too Much?
00:34:32

“Loyalty” is generally considered a pretty positive word. But it can have some negative consequences when you’re talking about a workplace: i.e. staying in a toxic situation when a better job offer awaits. Yes, this is a dilemma that you, our listeners, have written to us about.

For a rundown on some employee loyalty data, and a reminder to keep your best interests front and center, Liz and Rico chat today with UK-based business writer, Alicia Clegg. Alicia will also discuss her recent Financial Times article, “Too Much Loyalty Does Neither The Company Nor the Employee Much Good.”

Speaking of employee loyalty, we’ll hear from listener Amber who, after some pretty tough conflicts with her boss, wonders if she should ditch the company she works for, leaving it short-staffed during its busiest time of the year.

And in this week’s Lingo Bingo, we determine whether “double-click” should have a double-meaning.

Last but not least, listener Chris chats with Liz and Rico about strategies to avoid sharing a space with some annoying colleagues.  

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

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Sep 09, 2019
Wondery Presents Imagined Life Season Two
00:10:32

What is it like to be famous before you’re famous? What is it like to walk in the shoes of another person? Each episode of Imagined Life takes you on an immersive journey into the life of a world-famous person. It’ll be someone you may think you know, even admire -- or maybe the opposite. You’ll get clues to your identity along the way. But only in the final moments will you find out who “you” really are. So sit back, let go, and -- imagine your life, with our hosts, Oscar nominated Virginia Madsen and celebrated voice actor Robbie Daymond. From Wondery, the network behind Dirty John. Listen now at wondery.fm/imaginedlifetwo

Sep 06, 2019
Can You Tell If Your Boss Is Spying On You?
00:38:15

It’s just a fact of working life: Your employer is watching you. But are you aware of the extent to which it’s happening?

Let’s just say it’s pretty extensive. For some details on this, Liz and Rico chat today with Sarah Krouse. She’s a Telecom reporter for the Wall Street Journal who recently wrote a piece with the self-explanatory title, “The New Ways Your Boss Is Spying on You.” And after Sarah’s interview, Liz presents a couple company surveillance scenarios to Rico and asks him to guess if they were deemed unlawful or not in a suit.

Then, we’ll hear from listener Jess who’s lamenting a workless workplace--a situation that’s not as carefree as it seems. And later, Liz and Rico chat with listener Natalie, who’s dealing with some “annoying email practices” from her colleague.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


Sep 02, 2019
Liz and Rico Take YOUR Calls, Dear Listeners!
00:33:24

Today on SFW, we’re going to use the phone for its God-given purpose: to communicate with a whole bunch of listeners! Yep, our entire episode is dedicated to conversations with you, our podcast people, about your career questions, problems, and successes. Because talking with you is really our favorite thing to do.

First up, we have listener Stacey, who has a really great problem on her hands: an intern that’s perhaps too helpful. Then Liz gives a “Board of Directors 101” lesson to Adrian, who’s planning to join a corporate board in the next few years. 

We’ll also hear from Michelle, who’s not quite sure how to deal with a distracting co-worker. And last, but not least, we have Leia, who’s sharing her story about going on job interviews when she was up to 9 months pregnant, and how she addressed that “elephant in the room.”

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.

Aug 26, 2019
How To Protect Yourself from Hackers at Work
00:36:57

Now more than ever, our work lives happen online. And that means more of our work records, including information we’d prefer not to get into the wrong hands, are stored in our computers and in the cloud… ripe for nefarious types to steal.

So here to offer some digital-security ideas that your company might not have trained you to consider, is Stephanie Carruthers. She’s what’s called a “white hat” hacker, with the very James Bond-y handle “Snow.” Stephanie joins Liz and Rico today for a quick-fire round of the SFW classic, “5 in 5,” with 5 cybersecurity strengthening questions in 5-ish minutes

Then in this week’s Lingo Bingo, we’ll go through a list of phrases submitted by you, Dear Listeners, including an innuendo that should probably be retired from the office. Then listener Elyse returns to the show with a love story that’s made for some complicated work logistics.

And later, we’ll hear from listener Jill who needs some tips on how to pare down her resume. If you need even more ideas, feel free to go back to our July 8 episode with master-resume writer Emily Kapit.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.


Aug 19, 2019
The Exit Interview of your Dreams
00:36:23

One of the biggest work stories in the last several years has gotta be the push for more diversity of all kinds in the workforce. And not just because it’s morally the right thing to do, but also because it’s good business.

While there’s more awareness of that than ever, there’s the inevitable parallel phenomenon: pushback from workers and management who are weary of talking about it. 

Diversity Consultant and Sacred Heart University Professor Janice Gassam has given that phenomenon a name: “diversity fatigue.” Gassam joins us today to talk about why some people feel burned out on diversity and inclusion training, and what can be done to help everyone in the office be more receptive to it.

But first, Liz and Rico let listener Deanna have a fantasy exit interview, one where it’s okay to air her grievances. And in our Work Pop segment, we’re looking back at the hilarious Comedy Central sitcom “Broad City,” and what that show can tell us about the perils of intern life.

Then later, we’ll hear from listener Sarah, who’s banded together with her colleagues against a manager that she’s described as a “time sponge.”

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.


Aug 12, 2019
Introverts, You’ve Got This! Navigating The Social Work Scene
00:34:56

Every now and then, we’ve noticed that trends in psychology seep into everyday conversation. And lately it seems like there’s a lot of talk about whether you’re an extrovert or an introvert. Here today to discuss what that means, and how you can manage your work life if you happen to be the latter, is journalist Jessica Pan. Pan is the author of the brilliantly-titled book, “Sorry I’m late, I Didn’t Want To Come.” In it, she details her journey doing extroverted things despite being a self-professed introvert, and is sharing ways to navigate extrovert-friendly situations like concentrating in an open floor-plan office (headphones please!) or surviving dreaded networking events.

Then Liz and Rico will chat with listener Sally whose says management at her company has made it clear that they don’t have time for any mistakes. And we take a look at listener Hannah’s email asking for advice on how to handle workplace conflict and microaggressions from her male co-workers, when she’s the only woman in her crew.

Finally, we’ll hear from listener Sarah, who’s had issues with some colleagues making pretty intrusive comments about her pregnancy.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.

Aug 05, 2019
Introducing Bachelor Happy Hour with Rachel & Ali
00:09:10

“Bachelor Happy Hour with Rachel & Ali” takes fans behind the scenes with all things Bachelor Nation-related in the first ever, official Bachelor podcast. You’ll hear from current cast members and get the details on what really happened when the cameras stopped rolling. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts at http://wondery.fm/BHHED

Jul 31, 2019
Preparing For The Future of Work
00:28:55

We’ve all heard about how technology is encroaching on jobs us humans depend on. And according to a recent Oxford University study, as many as 47 percent of all jobs are likely to be eliminated by automation within the next 20 years. 

Because we’re all about solutions here at SFW, Liz and Rico are chatting today with Art Bilger and Jane Oates of WorkingNation, a campaign to prepare workers for changes tech may bring to their industry, and what the jobs of the future will be. Their first suggestion? Don’t panic. 

But first, Liz and Rico are doling out advice to listener Sophie, who wants to know if she should stay at a less-than-satisfying job that she thinks is quote: “good for her.” 

Later, listener Indok is calling to get some tips for surviving the night shift (cue The Commodores). 

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.


Jul 29, 2019
Finding Comedy in a Workplace Battlefield
00:34:46

So here on SFW, we try to leaven the occasional awfulness of work with some humor. And our guest Ginny Hogan has a new book that’s 112 pages of basically that. Her book “Toxic Femininity in the Workplace: Office Gender Politics Are a Battlefield” (Morrow Gift, 2019) comes out Sept. 10. And you may have encountered her pretty damned hilarious satirical pieces in such esteemed publications as McSweeney’s, Vulture and The New Yorker. Ginny joins us today for some anecdotes about her perils in the tech world and beyond, which includes a round of hot takes from Ginny, Liz and Rico as we go through some emails from you, dear listeners!

And in this week’s Work Pop segment, we look back at the ABC sitcom “Don’t Trust the B---- In Apartment 23,” to see if there’s anything the show can teach us about getting ahead in your career by using sheer confidence.

Finally, we’ll speak to a grandmother who recently decided to revisit college life. 

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.


Jul 22, 2019
Resume Solutions For Gaps In Employment
00:35:59

We get tons of emails from listeners who need advice about applying for jobs; and, in particular, about creating resumes. Yet somehow we’ve never addressed one of the more vexing resume problems: what to do when you have a gap in your employment. Like, if you were downsized out of a job for a while, or you took time off to raise kids.

So to help us figure out how to communicate those gaps in your resume, we’re joined today by certified counselor and career coach Steven Starks. He’s here to go through some different scenarios to make sure your resume looks great, even if there are some bare spots.

Then Liz and Rico chat with listener Susannah, who’s trying to find ways around putting her current boss as a reference on applications for a new job. And we hear from listener Mary, who’s just starting her freelance career and is curious about pitching to companies while keeping ownership of her ideas. 

Finally, we’ll talk with Belinda George, who’s found her calling as an elementary school principal, and even started an out-of-the-box afterschool program for her students.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.


Jul 15, 2019
Wondery Presents: The Moment
00:03:10

Epic proposals, surprise grand gestures, and...Taylor Swift? The Moment premieres July 10th. Don't miss the epic engagement story of Ross & Alex, first up in season one. Subscribe now at wondery.fm/moment

Jul 09, 2019
Knocking Networking Off Its Script
00:33:36

If you’ve ever felt like networking is the worst, well, it can be. But get ready for some ways to make it less doom-laden! Today, we continue our conversation with Priya Parker, master facilitator and author of the book, “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters.” Priya’s here to tell us how to start a non-boring conversation at a company mixer and even ask for help from experts in your field.

Then Liz and Rico chat with listener Sarah whose plans for a seemingly forthcoming promotion were foiled because of her company’s merger. And all the way from the UK, we connect with listener Morgan, who’s wrestling with some conflicting resume advice. To break it all down, we’ve brought in master resume-writer and career strategist Emily Kapit, who shares some strategies on how to tell a story with your resume without having to write a tome. 

Last but not least, we hear from listener Erik who’s dealing with a gripe a lot of us have--the dreaded, long commute!

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.


A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.


Jul 08, 2019
Eat Healthy, Even With The Boss
00:34:08

Steak dinners with the CEO. After-work drinks. That Bloody Mary in business class… These are all part of the decadence that often pairs with meeting colleagues, clients, and the boss--especially when it’s on your company’s dime. But today’s guest, Jackie London, is going to lay out some ways to keep you from overeating, even when someone else does the ordering. Jackie is a registered dietitian and author of the book “Dressing on the Side (and Other Diet Myths Debunked): 11 Science-Based Ways to Eat More, Stress Less, and Feel Great About Your Body.” She’s also the nutrition director at Good Housekeeping

Then we hear from a listener who wants a more rewarding position at her company. And another listener asks for advice about one of the best problems ever: not knowing how to manage an already great team. Hints: Make your meetings more productive and be a grease person.

Finally, Liz and Rico speak with a woman who’s worried about being low-balled by her company, now that she’s making the transition from freelancer to full-time employee.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

A note from our sponsors:

Treat yourself to your favorite Ben & Jerry’s flavor anywhere ice cream is sold, or find a new favorite at benjerry.com.


Jul 01, 2019
An Inside Look At The Cannabis Biz
00:36:59

We get emails from listeners who toil at a whole range of jobs. But lately, we’ve been hearing from more folks in an industry that, not long ago, you wouldn’t even admit to being part of for fear of doing jail time. This is about---you guessed it--cannabis! For an inside look at that “field,” Liz and Rico are joined today by Jim McAlpine, founder of the marijuana legalization campaign “CannaDads” and co-founder of Green Sky Strategy, a consulting firm for the cannabis industry.   

Then Liz and Rico chat with listener Aimee, a woman who’s having a hard time trusting her company president. And we’ll hear from listener Katie, who stood up to workplace discrimination...and faced the consequences.

Finally, Liz and Rico take a call from listener Ann, who’s worried her colleagues may resent her potential new supervisory role.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jun 24, 2019
Making Work Meetings Count
00:38:59

If you’ve ever done an epic eye roll when staff meeting invites pop-up on your screen, we’ve got a secret weapon to making those encounters worth your time. Her name is Priya Parker, author of the book, “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters.” Priya joins Liz and Rico today to tell us how to make everything from dinner parties to mundane office meetings (gasp) actually productive. And that includes embracing “good controversy.”

Then we’ll hear from listener Lauren, who wants Liz and Rico’s blessing to leave her job without another gig lined up. And listener Lynn, who needs advice on how to get out of a career slump.

Finally we’ll hear from listener Hannah who can’t get her colleagues to embrace all the tools our digital age has to offer. Email is not the only way, people!

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jun 17, 2019
The Secret To Managing Your Remote Team
00:34:05

We’ve talked a lot on the show about ways to stay sane as a remote worker, but managing a remote team is a whole different animal. So we’ve called on David Deacon, author of “The Self Determined Manager: A Manifesto for Exceptional People Managers,” to shed light on how bosses can help their employees feel like part of the team, even from halfway around the world.

Then, Liz and Rico will chat with listener Jenn, who just stepped into a new role at her company, but can’t escape her terrible boss. And we hear from listener Stephanie, who’s been building up her side hustle and wants some advice on how to inject that gig into her resume.

Finally, Liz and Rico talk to listener Sarah, who wants to know how to get job security at a cannabis startup where she’s been dubbed “Wonder Woman” for her impressive job skills.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

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Jun 10, 2019
Is Rage Quitting Ever Worth It?
00:38:20

Regular SFW listeners may recall a tale of Rico’s, where he suddenly quit a less-than-ideal video store gig by hurling a bag of popcorn to the floor and storming out. We can all agree that’s not the best way to exit a job. But what can we learn from people who leave their jobs in a blaze of glory? For some insight, we hear from Refinery29 career and personal finance writer Ludmila Leiva, who recently wrote an article about “rage quitting.”

Then we’ll hear from listener Lisa, who asked a recruiter for a certain salary range, but realized she asked for too little and wants to take it back. And listener Michael wants to quit his toxic company, but has too many variables keeping him there. He gets some advice on how to deal.

Finally, Liz and Rico speak to listener Jen, who’s perfectly happy with her position, but would like to know the best way to respectfully decline a promotion, while still looking like a team player. Jen also shares how she’s on-track to retire at 50!

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jun 03, 2019
Introducing Inside Star Wars
00:06:49

Heroes, villains, action... all set in a galaxy far, far away. Join Inside Star Wars and go behind the camera and find out how one of the most iconic series in film history came to be. Listen now at: http://wondery.fm/ISWED

May 29, 2019
Happy Birthday, Coach Larry!
00:34:34

We’re celebrating a big birthday today on Safe For Work with our own Coach Larry Seal! And he’s decided to party with us by offering some classic SFW advice to a listener who’s tried everything in our playbook to get her boss to delegate: A.K.A. What to do when you can’t trick your bad boss into thinking the solution is their idea.

Then Liz and Rico chat with a woman who’s having a hard time staying afloat at work because of a lack of direction from management. And in this week’s Work Pop segment, we’re looking into one of Liz’s favorite shows, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, to see what the beloved sitcom has to teach us about office boundaries. Noice!

Last but not least, we’ll hear from listener Jaime who’s got some questions about how to deal with her frustrating boss, and whether she should consider taking on her old job.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

May 27, 2019
The Problem With ‘Work/Life Balance’
00:35:30

If there’s one issue dominating our topics of conversation on the show, except possibly how to ask for a raise, it’s how to achieve that mythical zen goal of perfect work/life balance. But today’s guest, work environment sociologist and author Tracy Brower, says we’re thinking about work/life balance all wrong. She explained her opposition to the popular term in a recent Fast Company magazine article, and joins Liz and Rico for a rundown of her approach to making our professions and personal lives gel.


Then, we’re hearing from listener Mindy, who’s deciding whether to confront the terrible boss who almost fired her. And in this week’s Bad Advice segment, we’re digging into some job search tips you should avoid. Cover letters matter, people!


Finally, listener Fiona chats with Liz and Rico about a SFW favorite topic: taking time off from work.  


As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

May 20, 2019
Justin Long Gets Personal on "Life is Short"
00:08:44

Life is Short with Justin Long finds the actor sitting down with some of the funniest and most intriguing people of today, like Dax Shepard, Olivia Wilde and Neil Patrick Harris. No topics are out of bounds, and no questions are too personal. So things might get a little NSFW!

Subscribe to Life is Short with Justin Long and start listening at wondery.fm/lifeisshort

May 14, 2019
How To Deal With Friction In The Workplace
00:31:37

We’ve received countless calls and emails about ineffective leaders and annoying colleagues. So in order to better handle the bad seed(s) in the office, we’re turning to award-winning author and management science and engineering professor at Stanford, Bob Sutton. He’s here to tell us how to deal with co-workers who just “gunk up” the workplace and slow everything down, and why being passive-aggressive isn’t always a bad tactic.  


Then, we’ll hear from listener Brenda who’s afraid of falling off a “glass cliff,” and suspects she’s only being considered for new jobs as a diversity hire. And in this week’s game of Lingo Bingo, we “go forward” to some exasperating examples of office jargon.


Last but not least, listener Michel can’t seem to shake his former employer, who has even threatened Michel with a lawsuit to stop him from moving on.


As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

May 13, 2019
Squashing Public Speaking Fears
00:37:04


If you’re one of the many who shudder at the thought of public speaking, we’re here for you! Today’s episode is chock-full of tips to put the kibosh on work presentation nerves. For more on that, Liz and Rico chat with Matt Rossin, a trainer with Jack E. Rossin Presentation Skills Training in Boston. He’s sharing some practical and surprising ways to kill it the next time you’re in front of an audience.

Then listener Jeff feels like he’s achieved as much as he can at his job, but is hesitant to leave a great work environment in search of a more challenging position. Liz and Rico advise Jeff on how to decide whether he should pursue more. And in this week’s Work Pop, we’ll see what we can learn from the late-great TV mockumentary, “Parks and Recreation,” about the perils of hiring family.

Finally, we hear from listener Teresa, who has been tasked with whittling down and rebuilding her company’s diversity committee, and needs some concrete steps on where to start.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

May 06, 2019
Too Eager? How To Keep Your Cool In An Interview
00:39:51

So here’s one of the biggest catch-22’s for job seekers: You’re desperate for a certain job, but you can’t *seem* like you’re desperate for the job because no one wants to hire someone who seems desperate! Here with some strategies to prepare for that, along with many other job-interview pitfalls, is Kit Warchol. She’s a writer, consultant and the former executive director of Career Contessa, a site for women making mid-career transitions.

Then, we’ll hear from listener Matt who’s worried a new employer won’t be willing to accomodate his standing therapy appointment. And in our Work Pop segment, Liz and Rico will get into the 2010 hilarious comedy “The Other Guys,” starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg, to parse the perils of open office spaces.  

Finally, listener Indigo is struggling at a position where she has nothing to do at work. Liz and Rico discuss why this seemingly enviable job situation is actually the worst, even if you can look at cat videos on YouTube all day.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

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Apr 29, 2019
Sharing At Work Without Oversharing
00:34:51

We get a lot of emails from our listeners asking about how much personal information to share at work. Whether it’s about an illness or upcoming weddings, where do you draw the line? Our own Coach Larry Seal is back with some tips on what you should divulge in the office, and when to keep things to yourself.

And listener Bob is faced with a tough decision about whether to leave his current job to move closer to family, now that he’s expecting his second child.

Then in Lingo Bingo, Liz and Rico discuss a list of commonly used terms that listener Natalie just can’t stand at her fashion gig. “Silou” anyone?

Finally, listener Kelly asks Liz and Rico for advice on how to deal with her “superslacker” co-worker.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

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Apr 22, 2019
Dealing With A Bad Manager
00:36:33

We’ve all dealt with a bad boss at one point or another. And if not, LUCKY YOU! But if you currently have to tiptoe around your manager, we’ve brought in Liz Fosslien for some work survival tips. She is the co-author and illustrator of the best-selling book No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotions at Work and head of content at Humu, a company that uses behavioral science to make work better. Fosslein chats with Liz and Rico on how to stay sane in an otherwise pleasant work environment.

Then we hear from listener Sophie, who is hungry for a job that will play more to her strengths, but wonders if she should stay in her current position, which she describes as “good for her.” And in this week’s Mind the Gap segment, Liz and Rico battle it out over the moral dilemma of taking home office snacks.

Finally, we take a call from listener Amy, who’s struggling with a “clique-y” work environment.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

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Apr 15, 2019
We Hear From YOU, Dear Listeners
00:34:54

Our favorite part of Safe For Work, besides the snacks, is YOU--our dear listeners! So it only made sense for us to dedicate an entire show to your calls.

We’ll hear from listener Sarah, who has moved into a new position in her company, but is still stuck doing her old job, on top of her new job. Sarah floats an interesting solution by Liz and Rico.

Then, caller Cindy is 62, and has just been laid off from her fundraising position at a small university. Cindy gives a rundown of the steps she’s taken to get work again, as Liz and Rico talk about arguably the hardest part of getting back on your feet after job loss: regaining confidence. We also recommend looking back at our episode: “Modern Elders” And Making Age An Asset At Work for more on the value of not being the youngest person on your team.

Listener Matt is struggling with how to tell his boss that he needs to work remotely in order to be with his fiancée. Liz and Rico parse the best way to broach a tough ask with your manager. And we hear a message from listener Natalie, who is disillusioned with her career in fashion, but doesn’t know how to take the next steps to get a job she really loves.

Last but not least, we hear from Nicole who wants a more challenging job, but is worried that she won’t find another company that’s as understanding about her mental health condition.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Apr 08, 2019
Negotiating For What You Really Want
00:41:12

Negotiating in a job interview is arguably one of the most nerve-wracking parts of the hiring process. But it doesn’t have to be that way! For a lesson how not to get stumped when talking to a potential employer, Liz speaks executive recruiter Sarah Van Dyck who has some expert advice on how to ask for what you really want out of a job, and we’re not just talking about salary.

Then, we’ll hear from listener Jennifer who had to stop working for 18 months to take care of her ailing husband. Now Jennifer is ready to find a new job, and Liz and Rico go over some ways to make it happen.

And in this week’s Work Pop, we’re taking a listen to Adam Sandler’s classic, “The Wedding Singer” for some real talk on interviewing.

Last but not least, in honor of Equal Pay Day on April 2, we’re speaking to founder and CEO of the Career Contessa website, Lauren McGoodwin. She’s going to give us a lesson once and for all on how to ask for a raise.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

You can also find new episodes of Safe For Work, completely ad-free, only on Stitcher Premium. For a free month of Stitcher Premium, go to stitcherpremium.com/wondery and use promo code WONDERY.

Apr 01, 2019
Tackling Ethical Dilemmas at Work
00:40:13

There’s a reason business ethics is an entire university course...it’s complicated. But our very own Coach Larry Seal joins us for at least a way to begin to think about ethical dilemmas at the office, like how to handle a request from your boss that goes against your values. Hint: Things may not be what they seem.

Then on this week’s Work Pop segment, we explore what the 2001 romantic comedy Bridget Jones’s Diary tells us about quitting in spectacular fashion. And in our latest round of Bad Advice, Liz and Rico debate the conventional wisdom of “nice guys finish last,” “don’t sweat the small stuff” and “a promotion is always a good thing.”

Finally, we hear from listener Jane, who’s deciding whether to leave her new job in a toxic work environment without looking like a “job hopper.”

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

You can also find new episodes of Safe For Work, completely ad-free, only on Stitcher Premium. For a free month of Stitcher Premium, go to stitcherpremium.com/wondery and use promo code WONDERY.

Mar 25, 2019
Accepting Feedback Gracefully
00:35:13

Receiving constructive criticism can be easy in theory, but tough in practice. For some tips on how to take advantage of feedback, Liz and Rico speak to Wisconsin-based freelance writer Kat Boogaard, whose preferred topics include career and self-development. Kat will reveal ways to get through those tough conversations and thrive, instead of just gritting your teeth and bearing it.

Then, we’ll hear from listener Emilie, who’s having some trouble figuring out how to give feedback to her indecisive manager. And Liz and Rico will debate whether it’s acceptable to cry at work in this week’s Bad Advice segment.

Finally, in our latest segment of You Get Paid To Do What? Liz and Rico will hear from Alexis Fraser, A.K.A. Lipstick Lex. Lex is a Florida-based artist who uses “kiss prints” to create her colorful paintings. In other words, she applies lipstick in tons of different colors, then kisses a canvas to create portraits of Marilyn Monroe, Steven Tyler and other works of art. Check out Lex’s Instagram for some stunning visuals of her unusual technique.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

You can also find new episodes of Safe For Work, completely ad-free, only on Stitcher Premium. For a free month of Stitcher Premium, go to stitcherpremium.com/wondery and use promo code WONDERY.

Mar 18, 2019
Bouncing Back From Failure
00:42:19

Failure is often seen as something negative, but it’s not always a bad thing. When one door closes, another opens. Or, if you’re like television and film producer Nina Jacobson, you make your own door, so to speak. Jacobson’s credits include The Hunger Games and Crazy Rich Asians. But she was also fired as a Walt Disney Company studio exec more than a decade ago. In this episode, Jacobson will talk about what she learned from her own failures to become the success she is today.

Then, Liz and Rico give will give some advice to listener Nicole, who’s trying to juggle her new role as a “middle manager.” In other words, she’s managing others while working under her own boss. We’ll also hear from listener Dustin, who feels out of place among his more privileged colleagues.

And in this week’s Mind the Gap segment, Liz and Rico will tackle hypothetical workplace situations, like whether you should stick your hand in that communal candy bowl on your colleague’s desk.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

You can also find new episodes of Safe For Work, completely ad-free, only on Stitcher Premium. For a free month of Stitcher Premium, go to stitcherpremium.com/wondery and use promo code WONDERY.


Mar 11, 2019
The Art Of Office Space Intervention
00:38:34

Decluttering isn’t a new concept. But it seems like the war on clutter is especially intense at the moment, thanks to Marie Kondo and others who are taking messy spaces by storm. In this episode, we’ll talk to author Gretchen Rubin about her new book, Outer Order, Inner Calm: Declutter and Organize to Make More Room for Happiness. Liz will ask Gretchen for an “office space intervention” (goodbye old power cords!) and discuss whether decluttering actually makes you more productive.

Then, Liz and Rico speak to listener Robin, a teacher in Utah experiencing “compassion fatigue” after trying to be everything for her students. And in our Work Pop segment, we’ll look back on the ‘90s HBO classic, Mr. Show.

Last but not least, in ongoing effort to bring you stories from people who’ve made some big changes in their work life, we’ll speak to digital strategist Candice Kilpatrick, who went from being laid off in New York to head editor for a “space lifestyle” magazine. Yes, that’s a thing.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Mar 04, 2019
Achieving The Ever-Elusive Work-Life Balance
00:37:18

The perpetual battle between time spent at work vs. home can be heart-wrenching. But if your kid is asking for an appointment to get a hug, Coach Larry joins us with some thoughts on how to change that. In this episode, Larry will parse the challenges men and women face to find time for family, the importance of your phone’s “Do Not Disturb” function and how to carve out a personal life (or even [gasp] a vacation!) without feeling like you’ve left your colleagues hanging.

Then, Liz and Rico help returning listener Gilbert, who’s been given a bait-and-switch after accepting a new position. And listener Gabriel calls in about whether to put BDSM event planning and training gigs on his otherwise orthodox resume.

And in today’s Bad Advice segment, we give our take on whether sending emails at night should be off-limits.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Feb 25, 2019
Avoiding Burnout When You’re Always Available
00:35:07

Despite the large number of benefits they’ve put into the world, technologies like email, iPhones, and instant messaging have blurred the lines between when we are and aren’t available for work. So on today’s show, BuzzFeed News’s Anne Helen Petersen, author of the hugely viral article How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation, talks about how we can avoid the creep of digital burnout that’s coming for all of us, regardless of our generational identity. Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Joan, who’s looking to leave a new job after she was misled in a drawn-out interview process, and Erika, who can’t stand using her company’s instant messenger of choice. And we debate whether or not it’s a good idea to use a gimmick to get your foot in the door when applying to a job.

You can read more of Anne Helen Petersen’s work at BuzzFeed News.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Feb 18, 2019
Alternatives To Going Nuclear
00:33:38

What do you do when you’ve been pushed to your limit at work, but you don’t want to go nuclear and start suing people? Well, a few weeks back, we got a call from a listener named Vivienne. She’s dealing with some discrimination from the owner of her company; also, that same owner of the company is dating the head of HR. And our call with her left us wondering, “Well, what can you do that’s not a) leave your company, b) put your head down and ignore it, or c) go nuclear and take the owner to court?” So we called labor lawyer Laura Lawless, who gave us plenty of practical tips on how to deal with situations when you’ve been pushed too far and your company’s not there for you.

Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Kate, who’s dealing with a bad boss in a rotational program, and Heather, who’s on the fence about inviting her boss to her wedding. And we force Rico to chat Love Actually in today’s Work Pop.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Feb 11, 2019
How To Succeed As A New Manager
00:35:44

It’s an unfortunate reality of the working world that many people become managers without ever having been trained to actually manage others. So today, Coach Larry joins us with his do’s and don’ts for new managers: topics include being humble, thinking of yourself as a performance coach, and never jockeying for credit. Then, Liz and Rich help listeners Julie, who’s being stretched too thin at her job, and Debbie, who’s juggling multiple job offers...and somehow that’s a bad thing! And we debate whether or not sabotaging a prospective employee’s breakfast — to figure out if they’ll be a good fit at your company, of course — is Bad Advice.

As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Feb 04, 2019
Finding Security & Conquering Unhealthy Attachment Styles
00:32:43

Elizabeth Grace Saunders, author and time management coach, joins us to explain how our attachment styles -- that is, a subconscious attunement that we’ve developed over the course of our lives, and that often dictates how we impulsively react to events around us -- can provide insight into our stumbling blocks at work, and how understanding your attachment style can make your work-life happier and more fulfilling. Then, we help two listeners who are struggling with those pesky, ever-annoying job titles: Lee’s trying to negotiate a new title after only a few months at his company, while Gary’s been saddled with a weird, company-specific title that’s less impressive than his workload would dictate. And Liz and Rico decide whether or not “don’t take it personally, it’s just business” is Bad Advice.

You can read Elizabeth’s article on attachment styles here in The New York Times, and learn more about her time management coaching at her website.

If, like Erin, you have a story about a standout element of your commute, olfactory or otherwise, then we wanna hear from you! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jan 28, 2019
“Modern Elders” And Making Age An Asset At Work
00:35:55

Chip Conley, entrepreneur and author of the book Wisdom @ Work: The Making of a Modern Elder, joins us to discuss how we can fight against ageism in the workplace by reconsidering what it means to be, or to work with, an “elder.” Chip tells us about how his time as a mentor/intern (or as he calls it, a “mentern”) at Airbnb shaped how he approaches his younger colleagues, and how embracing and celebrating the wisdom one gains with age is crucial for older workers in today’s workplace. Then, Liz and Rico help a listener who’s looking for a new job in their mid-60s, and we talk with Karen Whitehead, who went back to school in her mid-40s to facilitate a dramatic career change. And finally, a Safe For Work listener shares a very NOT safe for work story about changing in the first-floor bathroom.

If you have a “not safe for work” story that you want to share (you know, something that you’ll never forget, and you still can’t believe it even happened at your office), then we want to hear from you! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jan 21, 2019
Preparing For The Future Of Work
00:35:05

Kara Swisher wears many hats: she’s the executive editor of the website Recode, she hosts the podcasts Recode Decode and Pivot, and she writes for The New York Times. And she joins us on today’s show, with all of her expertise, to talk about how automation and AI will change the jobs we have; plus, she has the steps we should take to robot-proof our careers, and how education needs to change in response to the shifting landscape of labor. Then, we help listener Morgan, whose bosses rearranged her office...and shredded some of her documents...while she was out of town. And Coach Larry’s had a change of heart about our listener Lisa’s “psych eval disguised as a normal job interview” from a previous episode.

Don’t forget that we want to hear about how you make your commute more interesting! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jan 14, 2019
Making An Action Plan For 2019
00:37:22

Last week, we focused on what we want from the new year; this week, it’s all about how to make your work-life dreams a reality in 2019. Coach Larry Seal joins us once again with his steps for making a New Year action plan, and how to take easy steps to get out of your comfort zone. Then, author and host of the podcast By The Book Kristen Meinzer explains why only some advice sticks with us, and how making baby steps towards writing her first book helped her bounce back from a major work-life disruption. And Claudine Sharko explains why she made a dramatic career change: leaving the world of teaching to go back to school for a law degree.

You can find Kristen’s podcast “By the Book” on Apple Podcasts, and read more about her upcoming novel “So You Want to Start a Podcast.”

Don’t forget that we want to hear about how you make your commute more interesting! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jan 07, 2019
Envisioning A Better Work-Life For 2019
00:40:02

We made it to the new year, and we’re kicking things off with a two-part series about making positive changes to your work-life in 2019. On today’s episode, our very own Coach Larry Seal joins us with the five questions we should ask ourselves to figure out what we want to improve when it comes to work, from the big career changes to the small tweaks that will make your work-life better. Then, tech journalist and author Manoush Zomorodi talks about quitting her public radio job and diving into the world of cryptocurrency on her podcast ZigZag, and how zoning out can make you more productive. And therapist Robine Bots, founder of Harmony Farm Sanctuary, tells us how she left her “soul-sucking job” to start a sanctuary for rescued farm animals that also gives back to its community.

Find Manoush’s podcast ZigZag here on Apple Podcasts, and read up on the science behind boredom in her book Bored and Brilliant.

Read more about the work Robine’s doing at Harmony Farm Sanctuary on their website.

Don’t forget that we want to hear about how you make your commute more interesting! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Jan 02, 2019
It’s All About Rico Gagliano
00:32:01

It’s the second episode of our two-part special celebrating our lovely hosts, and that means it’s time to put the spotlight on our very own Rico Gagliano. Our special guest this week was a member of Rico’s now-disbanded sketch comedy troupe, and he has some real stories to tell about their early days in LA. Then, Liz interviews Rico about his childhood aspirations, work-life ethos, and the creation of Dinner Party Download. And Rico answers your questions about his favorite recipes.

As we mention in the episode, we wanna hear about how you make your commute more interesting! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. We’re also working on an episode featuring your New Year’s Resolutions for your work-life, so send those in as well. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

Dec 31, 2018
Getting To Know Liz Dolan
00:37:11

We’re celebrating the end of the year by releasing two episodes that turn the focus onto our lovely hosts, and while we’re covering Rico next week, this episode is all about the one and only Liz Dolan. First, we’re joined by none other than one of Liz’s first coworkers, and she tells us all about what Liz was like as a child (and if she’s changed at all since then). Then, Rico interviews Liz Dolan herself; topics include studying Comparative Literature in college, arriving at Nike during the birth of the “Just Do It,” campaign, and the genesis of #StayNoisy. And Liz answers your questions about working with Oprah.

As we mention in the episode, we wanna hear about how you make your commute more interesting! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. We’re also working on an episode featuring your New Year’s Resolutions for your work-life, so send those in as well. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work, and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

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Dec 24, 2018
A Very Special Not Safe For Work Episode
00:38:14

That’s right, folks, it’s time to cleanse ourselves of our workplace sins before the new year begins, and boy, do y’all have some stories to tell. Topics include vomit (of course), ice-packs for vasectomy recovery, stealing office supplies from bosses who wronged us, and a photo of a coworker’s newborn daughter...that also features that male coworker completely nude on the edge of the photo. Then, writer/former child star/former talent agent Quinn Cummings shares a workplace story that’s still the subject of hushed Hollywood whispers to this day. And some of your favorite Wondery hosts talk about out-of-control attack dogs on movie sets, crawling through sewers, and getting paid to read obituaries at a country music radio station.

As Liz and Rico say near the end of today’s episode, this doesn’t have to be a yearly thing! If you have an outrageous, unbelievable, truth-is-stranger-than-fiction story about something that happened to you at work, we want to hear about it. Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com.

We’re also working on an episode featuring your New Year’s Resolutions for your work-life, so send us an email to be featured on the show. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

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Dec 17, 2018
Finding The Right Coach/Therapist For Your Career
00:37:25

A listener of ours wrote in with a question about her burned-out, aimless husband: should he see an executive coach? A life coach? A therapist? Fortunately, we’re pretty tight with an executive coach, our very own Coach Larry Seal, so he joins us today to talk about the strengths of each of these specialists, and how to tell when it’s time to seek some more advice about your career. Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Emily, whose boss is being weirdly resistant to updating her job title, and James, whose side hustle is taking off...but now he’s feeling guilty about neglecting his main gig. And we debate some maybe possibly Bad Advice, like the old standby, “Fake it til you make it.”

You can find out more about Coach Larry Seal at http://www.engagedleadership.com/

We’re working on an episode about our work-life New Year’s resolutions, so if you have grand plans for your career in 2019, we wanna hear about ‘em! Leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711, or send us an email at Safe@Wondery.com. And as always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email’s also Safe@Wondery.com. Weird, huh?) You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

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Dec 10, 2018
Surviving The Holidays At Work
00:39:16

There are lots of things to love about the holidays — so much food! Sweater weather! A valid excuse to listen to “All I Want For Christmas Is You” for hours on end! However, navigating holiday etiquette at work is not one of those wonderful things. So on today’s show, etiquette experts Lizzie Post and Daniel Post Senning are back to talk all things holiday office parties, Secret Santa, and out-of-office emails. Then, we help listeners Bill, who loves his job but might jump ship while it’s being restructured, and Ann, who’s dealing with lingering anxiety after being suddenly let go from her old gig. And we see what we can learn about office Christmas parties from the aptly-titled movie, “Office Christmas Party.”


You can find out more about Lizzie and Dan’s etiquette expertise at their website, where you can also find their Awesome Etiquette Podcast.


And don’t forget! If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com. You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


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Dec 03, 2018
Grammar Girl’s Quick And Dirty Tips For Language At The Office
00:38:36

Mignon Fogarty, also known as Grammar Girl, joins us today to answer your questions about language in the workplace: like, “Is it one space or two after a period,” or “Can I use ‘asap’ in a work email,” or the classic, “Why do we love verbing our nouns?” Then, Liz and Rico go over your passive-aggressive email techniques and touch on some more Lingo Bingo oddities (bonus points if y’all can make “frippery” catch on at your office). And we help listeners Lisa, whose talent evaluation took a weird turn with questions like, “Do you feel your parents sacrificed for you, why or why not,” and Tom, who’s leaving his first job but doesn’t know how or when to break the news to his boss.

You can find Grammar Girl’s podcast, “Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing,” here on Apple Podcasts, and you can read more on her website, https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/

Don’t forget! We’re working on a bunch of special episodes (Liz & Rico AMAs, your ultimate office, and a very NOT Safe For Work episode), so if you have a question, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com, or you can leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711. You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

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Nov 26, 2018
How To Network Like A Pro
00:37:07

Karen Wickre, former Google executive and editorial director at Twitter, joins us to explain how social media has made networking way easier, particularly for introverts. Then, Liz and Rico help Ryan, who wants to know if she should put her entry-level job on her business cards, and Emma, whose VP is not being particularly understanding while Emma’s trying to care for her ailing grandmother. And we tackle some all-too-common Bad Advice, like, “Don’t leave before the boss leaves.”

Read more about Karen Wickre’s book, “Taking the Work out of Networking: An Introvert’s Guide to Making Connections that Count, here on Amazon.

Don’t forget! We’re working on a bunch of special episodes (Liz & Rico AMAs, your ultimate office, and a very NOT Safe For Work episode), so if you have a question, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com, or you can leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711. You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

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Nov 19, 2018
How to Stay Sane When You're Working From Home
00:39:06

Kat Boogaard, staff writer at The Muse, joins us to talk about the surprisingly challenging aspects of working from home, plus she gives us her tips on how to tell if you’re the kind of person who could responsibly handle working remotely (if you have a predilection for watching Vine compilations on Youtube, working in an office might be better for you). Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Samantha, whose new job is being ruined by major changes at her company, and Amanda, who’s struggling to connect with her coworkers at her office in China. And we debate company cards, staying late, and calling your boss on vacation in today’s Mind the Gap.

You can read more of Kat’s writing on freelancing, working remote, and all sorts of topics at her website: https://katboogaard.com/

Don’t forget! We’re working on a bunch of special episodes (Liz & Rico AMAs, your ultimate office, and a very NOT Safe For Work episode), so if you have a question, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com, or you can leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711. You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


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Nov 12, 2018
Eating Healthy In The Office
00:38:03

Chef and author Curtis Stone joins us today to talk about a truly dreaded topic: how to eat healthy and well at work. He gives us his favorite meals to prep for lunch at work (including an amazing recipe, listed below), to why snacking throughout the day can actually be a good thing (assuming you’re not just like eating nachos all day). Then, Liz and Rico chat with listener Tabitha, who might be going too far with her efforts to separate her job from the rest of her life. Plus, we discuss the best and worst ways to send passive-aggressive emails in today’s Lingo Bingo, and talk with someone who’s made a career out of kitchen fashion in today’s “You Get Paid To Do What?”


Don’t forget! We’re working on a bunch of special episodes (Liz & Rico AMAs, your ultimate office, and a very NOT Safe For Work episode), so if you have a question, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com, or you can leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711. You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


Curtis Stone’s Recipe for Butternut Squash Soup with Smoked Parsnip Cream & Jamon Chips


Serves: 4 to 6

Prep Time: 40 minutes

Cook Time: 1.5 hours


Make-ahead: The jamon chips can be made up to 1 day ahead, stored airtight at room temperature. The soup and parsnip cream can be made up to 2 days ahead, covered separately and refrigerated. Reheat the soup and parsnip cream over low heat.


-- Ingredients:


Soup:


1 teaspoon canola oil

2 shallots, finely chopped

Kosher salt and freshly ground white pepper

1 ¼ pounds (600g) peeled, seeded butternut squash, cut into 1inch/3cm pieces

4 cups chicken stock

2 blood oranges, juiced (¼ cup/60ml)

1 cara cara orange, juiced (⅓ cup/70ml)

1 navel orange, juiced (¼ cup/60ml) and zested (1tbsp)


Smoked Parsnip Cream:


7g wood chips, preferably applewood

1cup/250ml full fat milk

1cuo/230ml cream

4tbsp/40g butter

8 ounces/240g (~2 medium) peeled parsnips, inner core removed and cut into 1in/3cm pieces


-- Method:


1. Heat a large, heavy saucepan over medium heat. Add the oil, then the shallots and a large pinch of salt, and sauté for about 2 minutes, or until the shallots are tender. Stir in the squash and season with white pepper. Cook, stirring occasionally, for about 10 minutes, or until the squash begins to soften.


2. Add the chicken stock and cook for about 40 minutes, or until the squash is tender and the stock has reduced by one-fourth. Remove the saucepan from the heat and stir in the orange juices and zest. Working in batches, puree the squash mixture in a blender on high speed until smooth. Strain the soup through a fine sieve. Makes about 1 quart.


3. Meanwhile, place the wood chips in the bottom of a medium heavy saucepan. Using a kitchen torch, set fire to the wood chips and allow them to burn for about 1 minute, or until they have turned black all over. Immediately pour in ¼ cup of water to extinguish the flames. Add the milk and cream and bring to a simmer over medium heat. Cover and simmer for about 20 minutes, or until the cream mixture is infused with a smoky flavor. Strain the mixture, discarding the wood chips. Set the infused cream mixture aside.


4. Rinse out the saucepan and pat dry. Return the saucepan to medium-high heat and add the butter. Cook the butter, stirring often, for about 3 minutes, or until it has browned, but not burned. Add the parsnips to the browned butter and cook for about 1 minute. Add the infused cream mixture and bring to a simmer. Cook for about 25 minutes, or until the parsnips are very tender.


5. Transfer the mixture to a blender and blend on high for about 2 minutes, or until the mixture is very smooth. Season with salt. Transfer the hot parsnip cream to a whip cream dispenser, and charge once. Keep the dispenser warm in a hot water bath until ready to serve.


-- To serve:


6. Divide the soup among four bowls. Pipe the parsnip cream over the soup. Place 2 or 3 jamon chips on each serving.


-- For the jamon chips:


4 paper-thin slices jamon Serrano


1. Position the rack in the center of the oven and preheat the oven to 425°F/220°C.


2. Place the sliced jamon on a heavy baking sheet lined with parchment paper and place in the oven. Cook, turning the jamon slices over halfway through cooking, for about 5 minutes, or until they are very crisp and brittle.


3. Immediately transfer the jamon chips to kitchen towel to absorb any excess oil. When cooled, break into 1½inch/4cm pieces. Store the chip in an airtight container at room temperature until ready to serve.


-- For parsnip chips:


¼ cup/5g caster sugar

1 navel orange, juiced and strained (⅓ cup/80ml)

1 tbsp/15g fine sea salt

1 small parsnip, peeled and very thinly sliced lengthwise on a mandolin


1. In a small heavy saucepan, combine the sugar, juice, and salt with 2 cups of water and bring to a boil over high heat.


2. In a medium bowl, combine the sliced parsnip. Carefully pour the boiling water mixture over the parsnips, fully submerging them. Set aside at room temperature for about 1 hour, or until cool.


3. Lay the parsnip slices in a single layer over a dehydrator sheet. Cover with an empty dehydrator sheet to act as a weight. Dehydrate overnight. Alternatively, place the parsnip strips on a baking tray lined with baking paper. Place the tray in the center rack of an oven that has been preheated to 212°F/100°C. Bake for about 80 minutes, or until the parsnip strips are crips and dry but do not take on any color.


Nov 05, 2018
How To Survive an Open Office Floor Plan
00:36:30

Do you work in an open office that’s usually very quiet, where people are more focused on their computers than the coworkers right next to them? If so, a recent study found that that’s the norm. Ethan Bernstein, co-author of that study and Associate Professor in the Organizational Behavior unit at the Harvard Business School, joins us to talk about why open offices actually stifle in-person communication, while encouraging more digital communication between coworkers.

Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Jenine, who wants to find a new job but is worried about ageism in her industry, and Jeffrey, whose company is preventing people from actually building careers. And we learn what The Good Doctor has to say about annual reviews.

Don’t forget! We’re working on a bunch of special episodes (Liz & Rico AMAs, your ultimate office, and a very NOT Safe For Work episode), so if you have a question, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com, or you can leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711. You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

Oct 29, 2018
Working With Friends, featuring TheSkimm Founders
00:39:20

Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, co-founders of the multifaceted media company The Skimm, join us to talk about how their friendship powered them through the unpredictable early days of starting a business together, and they give us their advice on how to tell if a friendship will survive once it’s part of a business venture. Then, Liz and Rico do what they do best: help some listeners! Daphne’s boss just hired his unqualified sister and the nepotism is running the company into the ground, while Steven’s working way above his pay grade — and job title — without getting any credit or support from his supervisors. And noted business luminaries Ferris Bueller and Rico Gagliano give us some advice on how to fake sick and skip school...or work, as the case may be.


To sign up for their daily newsletter, The Daily Skimm, or to check out their new podcast, visit https://www.theskimm.com/


Don’t forget! We’re working on a bunch of special episodes, so if you have a question — any question at all — for either of our hosts, or if you have a NOT safe for work story, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com, or you can leave us a voicemail at 424-224-5711. You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

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Oct 22, 2018
How to talk about illnesses in the office
00:36:17

Dr. Elizabeth Lombardo joins us once again, this time talking about the sensitive subject of illnesses and chronic conditions at work — from the best ways to support a coworker dealing with one, to how to disclose them to one’s boss. Listener Jessica can’t seem to get along with a coworker who might become her boss, while Nate’s manager isn’t giving him any feedback or making him a priority. And today’s Mind the Gap covers frequent office nightmares like farewell cards, office smalltalk, and Thanksgiving potlucks.


Don’t forget! We’re working on a bunch of special episodes, so if you have a question — any question at all — for either of our hosts, or if you have a NOT safe for work story, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


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Oct 15, 2018
Using Myers-Briggs Responsibly At Work
00:32:07

On today’s show, Coach Larry Seal breaks down all the ways that Myers-Briggs can be used responsibly in the workplace, and why some companies’ insistence on using it as a hiring or team-building tool is a mistake. Then, etiquette experts Lizzie Post and Daniel Post Senning offer their advice on how to get that chatty coworker to leave you alone. And Liz and Rico help a listener who’s trying to overhaul the communication culture at her job all by herself.


To find your Myers-Briggs type, you can take an unofficial version of the test here: https://www.16personalities.com/


You can find Lizzie and Dan’s podcast here: http://emilypost.com/awesome-etiquette-podcast/


And don’t forget! If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.



Oct 08, 2018
Avoiding Workplace Envy
00:32:12

Executive coach and author Susan Peppercorn joins us on this episode to give her top 5 tips on avoiding or getting over envy in the workplace. Then, we’ve all heard the advice “never say no” when it comes to work; but is it actually good advice? Our sage hosts will decide. And, as always, we help you, our lovely listeners: Christa’s dealing with a potential case of plagiarism at her agency, while Scott’s trying to decide if it’s the right time to leave his poorly-run company.

To find out more about Susan Peppercorn, visit http://positiveworkplacepartners.com/about/

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Oct 01, 2018
Stopping Burnout Before You Get Burned
00:35:33

Today, our own Dr. Stephen Danisger joins us to diagnose the early warning signs for workplace burnout, and what to do to prevent yourself from getting burnt out at work. Then, Liz and Rico help some listeners: Sarah has to talk to her supervisors about getting ergonomic furniture at the office, and an anonymous emailer is attempting to avoid burnout by looking for work overseas. And a pair of etiquette experts critiques our sage hosts on their responses to some common workplace pitfalls in a special edition of Mind the Gap.


If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

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Sep 24, 2018
Working With Your Inner Critic
00:36:15

Our featured guest on today’s show is Dr. Elizabeth Lombardo, who gives us her advice on how to live with that nagging little voice in your head: the pesky inner critic. Then, Liz and Rico help a listener who’s never negotiated for herself before. And our hosts continue everyone’s favorite waking nightmare of corporate jargon in today’s Lingo Bingo.

Find out more about what your inner critic is saying to you by taking Dr. E’s quiz at doyouhaveics.com.

If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.



Sep 17, 2018
Confronting Bias In The Workplace
00:40:41

On today’s show, NYU professor/author Dolly Chugh joins us to talk about the ways to identify and overcome bias — unintentional or otherwise — in the workplace. Then, Liz and Rico help a listener who’s dealing with some bias-infused feedback at work. And we get some job posting wisdom straight from the source of the crew at ZipRecruiter.

Find out more about Dolly Chugh’s book, “The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias,” here: http://www.dollychugh.com/book/

If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


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Sep 10, 2018
Happiness is Good Feedback
00:36:28

Our man on the inside, Coach Larry joins us on this episode for the dos and dont’s of giving — and receiving — feedback at work: from how to encourage an underperforming employee, to the steps to create a better environment for consistent, helpful feedback in the office. Then, Liz and Rico noodle their way through another Lingo Bingo, and an etiquette expert helps us deal with a real stumper of a question.


If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


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Sep 03, 2018
Back To Work After A Baby
00:37:49

On today’s episode, writer/entrepreneur Allyson Downey joins us with her most important advice for women coming back to work after having kids. Then, Liz and Rico finally hit some bumps in the road in Mind the Gap. And we help some of you, our lovely listeners: Mia’s trying to negotiate a raise, but she might be feeling too grateful to her company, and Krista’s having trouble setting boundaries with her classroom budget.

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Aug 27, 2018
SFW Live: Embracing unpredictability with Patty McCord
00:40:40

A couple of weeks ago, we had the pleasure of hosting a live Safe For Work taping for Women in Cable Telecommunications at the offices of Boingo Wireless in Los Angeles. There, Liz and Rico talked with Patty McCord, former Chief Talent Officer at Netflix, about how to treat employees like adults, and how interviewing is the most important skill you’ll need for your career. Then, Boingo’s CMO Dawn Callahan gives us her five tips on going with the flow when your career takes an unexpected turn. And we play some Lingo Bingo while we’re at it.


Additional reading:

Find out more about Patty and her book here: http://pattymccord.com/book/


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Aug 20, 2018
Resumes, cover letters, and interviews, oh my!
00:46:20


On today’s show, Liz and Rico cover the bases on how to make an appealing resume, write a stellar cover letter, and ace your job interview. First, resume and cover letter Ali B. Gant gives us the do’s and dont’s for resumes these days. Then, Ladan Hayes of Career Builder joins us to go over what you should and shouldn’t disclose in a job interview.


Additional reading:


www.fastcompany.com/40587988/should-i-come-out-during-the-hiring-process


www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/affinity/LGBTguide.php


www.fastcompany.com/40456937/heres-everywhere-in-the-u-s-you-can-still-get-fired-for-being-gay-or-trans


www.careerbuilder.com/advice


https://store.thisamericanlife.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RADIO%3AANILLUSTRATEDGUIDE


If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.

Aug 13, 2018
A freelancer’s guide to work-life balance
00:42:22

Coach Larry Seal joins us once again to discuss matters of work-life balance, but today we’re focusing on how to have a healthy relationship with your work...when you’re your own boss. Then, Liz and Rico set the record straight on some bad advice about unpaid internships, and they debate some of the eternal workplace questions, like “how early should you arrive before a job interview,” in today’s Mind the Gap.


If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


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Aug 06, 2018
Establishing work-life balance
00:41:16

On today's show, Coach Larry Seal gives us his tips for setting boundaries at work when your work-life balance is out of whack, plus how to tell if a workplace encourages a healthy balance between work and the rest of your life. Then, Liz and Rico commiserate over the traumatic experience of watching "Up in the Air," and we help two callers who can't seem to establish good work-life balance.

If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email! You can reach us at Safe@Wondery.com You can also find us on Twitter — we’re @SafeFor Work — and don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano.


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Jul 30, 2018
Gossip at work...can be good?
00:38:02

Okay, let's make this clear from the top: we here at Safe For Work are not staunch supporters of office gossip. From the office politics of peddling secrets, to the ease with which gossip can breed cliques and cabals, there are plenty of pitfalls when it comes to workplace gossip. But on today's episode, Amy Gallo of the Harvard Business Review makes some very compelling points as to why gossip can be...well, good! Then, Liz and Rico rail against the verbiage of the corporate world in today's iteration of Lingo Bingo. And we help some listeners, too: Robin's worried that her job will be the first on the chopping block, while the new hires at Nakita's office are making more than some long-term employees.

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Jul 23, 2018
Meeting a new coworker
00:39:50

Liz and the rest of us here at Safe For Work have a new coworker in our midst — his name is Rico Gagliano, and he’s going to be the new co-host here. And with Rico’s arrival, we were all wondering: what’s the best way to actually get to know a new coworker? So on today’s show, Liz and Rico talk about the things that have worked for them when they’ve been the new kid on the block, as well as their tips for making a new employee on your team feel welcome (hint: bonding at work DOES NOT have to involve ice-breakers). Then we debate those eternal workplace issues — least favorite bit of workplace jargon? — in today’s iteration of Mind the Gap, which spawns a new segment entirely focused on corporate lingo (please email us and share your least favorite work-speak). And we get some wisdom straight from the source of the smart folks at ZipRecruiter.


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Jul 16, 2018
What's Safe For Work?
00:02:25

The show is about making your work life better… because that makes your life life better. Hosted by Liz Dolan, former chief marketing officer of Nike, the Oprah Winfrey Network, and National Geographic...and co-host of the long-running podcast, Satellite Sisters along with Rico Gagliano a former reporter for the public radio business show “Marketplace,” contributor to The Wall Street Journal… and was also the award-winning co-creator and co-host of the pioneering podcast The Dinner Party Download. So if you need some advice about making your life a little better...starting with work... or you just need a few laughs to get you through the 9-5, we’re here for you.



Jul 02, 2018