Words Matter

By Katie Barlow & Joe Lockhart

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American politics is undergoing seismic changes that will alter the course of history. As hosts of Words Matter, Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart believe that facts, evidence, truth and objective reality are necessary and vital in public discourse. Katie and Joe have broad experience in government, politics and journalism -- this gives them a unique ability to explain recent events and place them in historic context. Together, with fellow journalists, elected officials, policy-makers and thought-leaders, they will analyze the week's news and get at the real truth behind all the distracting headlines. New episodes released Mondays. Produced and recorded out of The Hangar Studios, NYC.

Episode Date
SPECIAL: How to Read the (Redacted) Mueller Report
43:05

With the (redacted) Mueller Report set to be released on Thursday morning, Katie and Joe are joined by Matthew Miller for a reader's guide. Matt has worked at the highest levels of government and politics including service as the Director of the Office of Public Affairs for the Department of Justice, leading the Department’s communications team and serving as Attorney General Eric Holder’s spokesman.


Prior to his service at DOJ, Matthew worked in leadership positions in both the U.S. House and Senate, as well as the 2004 presidential campaign for then-Senator John Kerry.


He is a graduate of the University of Texas at Austin, an MSNBC contributor and has written for the Washington PostTime MagazinePolitico and others.

Apr 16, 2019
Margaret Sullivan
55:35
Margaret Sullivan is the media columnist for The Washington Post and before that Margaret served as the fifth public editor of The New York Times and was the first woman to hold that position. Margaret is a native of Lackawanna, New York and began her career as a summer intern at the Buffalo News becoming the first woman editor there and managing editor in the hundred and thirty nine year history of that storied newspaper.
Apr 15, 2019
Words Matter Library: Zucked by Roger McNamee
58:45

The New York Times bestseller about a noted tech venture capitalist, early mentor to Mark Zuckerberg, and Facebook investor, who wakes up to the serious damage Facebook is doing to our society – and sets out to try to stop it. 


This week we add ZUCKED by Roger McNamee to the Words Matter Library. It’s a story that begins with a series of rude awakenings. First there is the author’s dawning realization that the platform is being manipulated by some very bad actors. Then there is the even more unsettling realization that Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg are unable or unwilling to share his concerns, polite as they may be to his face. 


And then comes the election of Donald Trump, and the emergence of one horrific piece of news after another about the malign ends to which the Facebook platform has been put. To McNamee’s shock, even still Facebook’s leaders duck and dissemble, viewing the matter as a public relations problem. Now thoroughly alienated, McNamee digs into the issue, and fortuitously meets up with some fellow travelers who share his concern, and help him sharpen its focus. Soon he and a dream team of Silicon Valley technologists are charging into the fray, to raise consciousness about the existential threat of Facebook, and the persuasion architecture of the attention economy more broadly — to our public health and to our political order. 

Apr 12, 2019
Welcome Joe Lockhart
37:11
Katie officially welcomes Joe as the new co-Host of Words Matter. This week Katie and Joe discuss the politics of the Mueller Report, Trump's tax returns and Joe Biden's bad week. And Katie pays tribute to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on the 51st anniversary of his poignant and iconic "Mountain Top" Speech -- this week Dr. King, has the final word.
Apr 08, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power'
19:51
As Nancy Pelosi retakes the Speaker’s gavel and the leadership of the Democratic opposition to Donald Trump, we add “Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Everything Nancy Pelosi has ever done, she has done extremely well. Listen to the life story of this historic leader -- the only woman and perhaps most influential and greatest House Speaker in American History.
Apr 04, 2019
Nina Totenberg -- Legendary Supreme Court Journalist
40:20

Katie welcomes her friend Nina Totenberg to Words Matter. Nina is NPR's award winning and legendary legal affairs correspondent. Her coverage of the Supreme Court and legal and political affairs has won her widespread recognition. Newsweek calls her "the creme de la creme of NPR" and Vanity Fair calls her "Queen of the Leaks." She's not a lawyer but any lawyer in Washington will tell you she knows more about the law than they do.


From more than 30 years, Nina Totenberg has broken some of the biggest stories in some of the most important and consequential events in the history of Supreme Court nominations. Listen to Nina talk with Katie about the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, the Mueller Report and executive privilege and her special friendship with the Terminator -- former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Apr 01, 2019
Words Matter Library: Daniel Patrick Moynihan - A Portrait in Letters
34:01

The Almanac of American Politics described Daniel Patrick Moynihan as “The nation’s best thinker among politicians since Lincoln and its best politician among thinkers since Jefferson.” Before his election to the US Senate in 1976, Moynihan served in the administrations of Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford. He was ambassador to India, and U.S. representative to the United Nations, and was four times elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.


This week we are honored to add Daniel Patrick Moynihan: A Portrait in Letters of an American Visionary to the Words Matter Audible Library. In this important book, distinguished journalist Steven Weisman compiles a vivid portrait of Moynihan’s life, in the senator’s own words. Moynihan's letters offer an extraordinary window into particular moments in history, from his feelings of loss at JFK’s assassination, to his passionate pleas to Nixon not to make Vietnam a Nixon war, to his frustrations over healthcare and welfare reform during the Clinton era.


Check out this title on Audible, because Words Matter.

Mar 30, 2019
Final Word - Linda Brown
11:43

Linda Brown was in the third grade when her father Oliver tried to enroll her in Sumner Elementary School in Topeka Kansas. Oliver and his daughter Linda were denied admission to the school that day. The year was 1950. Sumner was an all-white school. And Linda attended the school for black children across town. Separate but equal ruled the day in America. The moment Linda was turned away, it started a series of events that toppled the idea of separate but equal and led her all the way to the steps of the Supreme Court of the United States. Linda's father was the named plaintiff in the landmark case Brown v. Board of Education.


This week, we give education pioneer and civil rights icon Linda Brown, the final word.

Mar 28, 2019
What Happens Next?
52:00
With the Mueller Investigation over and his report delivered to the Attorney General, the battle moves to Capitol Hill. Katie and guest host Joe Lockhart talk with former state and federal prosecutor Elie Honig. As a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, Elie directed major criminal cases against organized crime, street gangs, drug traffickers, corrupt public officials, child predators and white collar criminals. Elie is the executive director of the Rutgers Institute for Secure Communities at Rutgers University. And in his spare time Elie is a CNN legal analyst where he just launched "Cross-Exam" a new weekly column.
Mar 25, 2019
Words Matter Library: We Say #NeverAgain
15:25
This week we put We Say #NeverAgain into the Words Matter Audible Library. This is a moving journalistic account of shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland and the fight for gun control - as told by the student reporters themselves. Read by Melissa Falkowski, Eric Garner, and the Parkland Student Journalists, this important book showcases how the teens told their own story. Listen as students share specific insight into what it has been like being approached by the press and how that has informed the way they interview their own subjects.
Mar 22, 2019
Meet Joe Lockhart
41:41

Last week we talked to Former White Press Secretary Joe Lockhart about the news of the day how the Mueller investigation operates differently than the Starr investigation operated and how the White House in crisis battles with a hostile Congress and communicates with the press and the American people.


Our listeners wanted to hear more -- so we invited him back.


Joe served as the 19th White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton from 1998-2000. In 1999, Joe became the only White House Press Secretary in American history to serve during the Senate Impeachment Trial of a US President. Later Joe co-founded the Glover Park Group and went on to serve as Senior Vice President of the National Football League. Joe is currently a CNN political analyst and Vice Chairman of Edelman Public Relations.

Mar 18, 2019
Special Final Word - Charlayne Hunter-Gault
4:19
The month of March is international women's history month and we recently celebrated International Women's Day. Black history month just ended in February -- and so in honor of both, Katie will be highlighting some outstanding women in this space. This week...Charlayne Hunter-Gault is an Emmy award winning investigative journalist and recipient of 2 Peabody Awards. But before any of that, she was the first black woman to attend the University of Georgia in the segregated South in 1961. Charlayne Hunter-Gault graduated with a degree in journalism in 1963. She went on to work for the New York Times ,The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer and worked as NPR's chief correspondent in Africa for many years. She's also an author. She wrote in my place a memoir about her experiences at the University of Georgia. Charlayne Hunter-Gault is a pioneer and paved the way for many women in journalism and education.
Mar 13, 2019
Former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart
57:44

Joe Lockhart served as the 19th White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton from 1998-2000. In 1999, Joe became the only White House Press Secretary in American history to serve during the Senate Impeachment Trial of a US President. Later Joe co-founded the Glover Park Group and went on to serve as Senior Vice President of the National Football League. Joe is currently a CNN political analyst and Vice Chairman of Edelman Public Relations.

We talk to Joe about his recent CNN appearance with former Independent Counsel Ken Starr and how far he thinks Donald Trump is on the path toward Impeachment.

And Katie has a Final Word on legendary journalist and civil rights pioneer Charlayne Hunter-Gault.




Mar 11, 2019
Words Matter Library: Power Wars by Charlie Savage
19:57

This week we put Power Wars, by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Washington correspondent for The New York Times, Charlie Savage into the Words Matter Audible Library.


First published in 2015, Power Wars is an investigative history of national-security legal policymaking in the Obama administration. Charlie is also the author of Takeover, published in 2007, which chronicles the Bush-Cheney administration’s efforts to expand presidential power.


Charlie has been covering post-9/11 issues — including national security, individual rights and the rule of law — since 2003, when he was a reporter for The Miami Herald. Later that year, he joined the Washington bureau of The Boston Globe; he moved to the Washington bureau of The New York Times in 2008. He has also co-taught a seminar on national security and the Constitution at Georgetown University.

Mar 08, 2019
Charlie Savage of the New York Times
51:29

The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Charlie Savage is a Washington correspondent for The New York Times. He is also the author of “Power Wars,” published in 2015, an investigative history of national-security legal policymaking in the Obama administration, and “Takeover,” published in 2007, which chronicles the Bush-Cheney administration’s efforts to expand presidential power.


Charlie has been covering post-9/11 issues — including national security, individual rights and the rule of law — since 2003, when he was a reporter for The Miami Herald. Later that year, he joined the Washington bureau of The Boston Globe; he moved to the Washington bureau of The New York Times in 2008. He has also co-taught a seminar on national security and the Constitution at Georgetown University.

Mar 04, 2019
Meet Katie Barlow
1:36
Katie Barlow is the Host of Words Matter. She is a lawyer and the Founder and Editor of DC Circuit Breaker which provides news and analysis on the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. As a journalist, Katie has covered Capitol Hill with WTOP, including Justice Elena Kagan’s confirmation hearing, as well as the Supreme Court with NPR’s Nina Totenberg. As a lawyer, her practice includes civil litigation and white-collar defense with a focus on the Anti-Terrorism Act. She received dual degrees in political science and broadcast journalism from the University of Georgia and a J.D. from Georgetown Law. Katie is a longtime lover of Washington, DC. If she is not solo traveling around the globe, you can often find her running down the mall with her 90-pound black standard poodle, Beau.
Feb 27, 2019
Vanity Fair's William D. Cohan
1:03:35
This week, new host Katie Barlow interviews Vanity Fair special correspondent William D. Cohan as her first episode of Words Matter. Bill is former senior Wall Street M&A investment banker for 17 years and is the New York Times bestselling author of three non-fiction narratives about Wall Street. His latest book Why Wall Street Matters is a must read for anyone trying to understand the political and policy issues at stake in the 2020 elections. Bill also writes for The Financial Times, The New York Times, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, The Atlantic, The Nation, Fortune, and Politico
Feb 25, 2019
Words Matter Library: "Why Wall Street Matters" by William D. Cohan
17:00
This week we add Why Wall Street Matters By William D. Cohan to the Words Matter Library Bill is former senior Wall Street M&A investment banker for 17 years and is the New York Times bestselling author of three non-fiction narratives about Wall Street. Bill is also a special correspondent at Vanity Fair. He also writes for The Financial Times, The New York Times, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, The Atlantic, The Nation, Fortune, and Politico
Feb 22, 2019
The Show Goes On - Max Boot Interview
49:23
Washington Post Columnist Max Boot is the Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and a Global Affairs Analyst for CNN. In his latest book, The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right, Max details his ideological journey from a “movement” conservative to a man without a party, beginning with his political coming-of-age as a young émigré from the Soviet Union, enthralled with the National Review and the conservative intellectual tradition of Russell Kirk and F. A. Hayek. Against this personal odyssey, Boot simultaneously traces the evolution of modern American conservatism, jump-started by Barry Goldwater’s canonical The Conscience of a Conservative, to the rise of Trumpism and its gradual corrosion of what was once the Republican Party.
Feb 18, 2019
Steve's Final Episode
31:46
Steve sits down with Elise and Adam in his first podcast interview since Howard Schultz announced on 60 Minutes that he was "seriously considering" an independent bid for President of the United States. In 2019, a billionaire thinking about running for president is a topic of great consequence. As Steve himself has reminded us again and again over the last two years, these are extraordinarily dangerous times, and the very future of our republic may hang in the balance. We believe that at this pivotal moment in our history, words do have power and they do have consequences. Don't miss Steve's final appearance on the podcast.
Feb 10, 2019
April Ryan - "Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House"
44:23
April Ryan is an award winning journalist, veteran White House Correspondent, and best selling author. And by reporting from inside the Trump White House, she’s come under fire -- just for doing her job . We talk to April about what it was like to cover the White House under Presidents Clinton, Bush, Obama - and now how and why she’s come under attack by Donald Trump and his press office. 
Feb 04, 2019
Words Matter Library - "Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House" by April Ryan
18:06
The Words Audible Matter Library goes to Washington to interview Award winning journalist, best-selling author, and veteran White House Correspondent April Ryan on her new book “Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House.”
Feb 01, 2019
Shutdown Fallout
48:26
The 35-day federal government shutdown may be over - for now - but the long terms effects will be felt by hard working Americans for months and perhaps years to come. $200 million in spending per week was lost not only by federal workers, but contractors and the people working in businesses that count on those dollars to survive. Elise and Steve discuss the political fallout from Donald Trump’s PR stunt gone horribly wrong. 
Jan 28, 2019
Words Matter Library Special State the Union Edition
13:38
On what should be the eve of Donald Trump's second State of the Union address, we add Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 1941 “Four Freedoms” speech and Ronald Reagan’s Challenger Disaster speech to the Words Matter Audible Library. Through Audible you can go back and listen to the full address and absorb and appreciate the history of what real presidential leadership sounds like.
Jan 25, 2019
Trumpistan in Chaos
53:59
The longest government shutdown in US history continues as Donald Trump and Senate Republicans continue to hold the paychecks of more than 800,000 Americans hostage in exchange for an unnecessary and ineffective border wall. Elise and Steve discuss the politics of the latest Trump created crisis - as well as how the 2020 Democratic field is shaping up.
Jan 21, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'A Letter from Birmingham Jail' & 'Where do we go from Here?' By Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
18:52
This week, to honor legacy of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr we proudly put “A Letter from Birmingham Jail” and “Where Do We Go from Here?” into the Words Matter Audible Library. There is perhaps no leader or public figure who symbolizes the power and importance of words better than Dr. King. Both of these Audible titles are historical treasures which are all too relevant today. 
Jan 18, 2019
Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr. on Race in America
57:28
Professor Eddie Glaude Jr. argues in his groundbreaking book Democracy in Black that we live in a country founded on a “value gap”—with white lives valued more than others—that still distorts our politics today. Whether discussing why all Americans have racial habits that reinforce inequality, why black politics based on the civil-rights era have reached a dead end, or why only remaking democracy from the ground up can bring real change, Professor Glaude crystallizes the untenable position of black America--and offers thoughts on a better way forward. Forceful in ideas and unsettling in its candor, Democracy in Black is a landmark book on race in America. 
Jan 14, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'Democracy in Black' by Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr.
17:37
We are proud to put "Democracy in Black" by Professor Eddie S. Glaude Jr. into the Words Matter Audible Library. Part manifesto, part history, part memoir, Professor Glaude argues that we live in a country founded on a “value gap”—with white lives valued more than others—that still distorts our politics today. Whether discussing why all Americans have racial habits that reinforce inequality, why black politics based on the civil-rights era have reached a dead end, or why only remaking democracy from the ground up can bring real change, Professor Glaude crystallizes the untenable position of black America--and offers thoughts on a better way forward. Forceful in ideas and unsettling in its candor, "Democracy In Black" is a landmark book on race in America.
Jan 11, 2019
Welcome to 2019!
30:57
Welcome to Season 2 of Words Matter. The federal government is still shutdown, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the only adult in the room and the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination is off to a fast start. Steve Schmidt gives his take and explains what it all means.
Jan 08, 2019
Words Matter Library: 'Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power'
20:03
As Nancy Pelosi retakes the Speaker’s gavel and the leadership of the Democratic opposition to Donald Trump, we add “Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Everything Nancy Pelosi has ever done, she has done extremely well. Listen to the life story of this historic leader -- the only woman and perhaps most influential and greatest House Speaker in American History.
Jan 04, 2019
2018 Words Matter Library Review
16:05
As our first season comes to a close, we review the titles put into the Words Matter Audible Library in 2018. From Steve Kornacki’s “The Red and the Blue”, to “Profiles in Courage” to “Columbine” to “Tailspin” by Steven Brill - we go through the books we selected and why they are important to the public discourse in the Age of Trump. 
Dec 31, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy
12:12

In this addition of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible we add this Pulitzer Prize winning book by President John F. Kennedy. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses. 


Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to

audible.com/wordsmatter


Audible - because Words Matte

Dec 28, 2018
Roger Ailes & Trump State TV - an interview with Gabe Sherman
43:16
Would Nixon have survived if Fox News was around in 1974? Author of the “Loudest Voice in the Room,” Gabe Sherman explains how the GOP propaganda network was forged in the aftermath of Watergate - and how it’s now prepared to protect Donald Trump against all enemies- real and imagined. 
Dec 24, 2018
Words Matter Library: 'The Loudest Voice in the Room' by Gabriel Sherman
12:20
This week we add Gabriel Sherman’s “Loudest Voice in the Room” to the Words Matter Audible Library. This astonishing inside story of Fox News, details how Roger Ailes created the most powerful media and political business in the world and divided a country in the process.
Dec 21, 2018
'Swamp Chronicles' - by Adam Davidson of the New Yorker.
56:02
In his “Swamp Chronicles” series for the New Yorker, Adam Davidson follows the money of Donald Trump, his family, his Administration, and his business associates. From Azerbaijan to Scotland to Florida - Adam explains how the Trump Organization looks more like a money laundering scam than a legitimate business operation.
Dec 17, 2018
Words Matter Library: 'TrumpNation - The Art of Being Donald Trump' by Tim O’Brien
45:03
This week we add “TrumpNation the Art of Being Donald Trump” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Find out why this comprehensive and definitive biography Donald Trump sued author Tim O’Brien for $5 billion. (Spoiler alert: Trump lost.) Get this must listen title from Audible - now!
Dec 14, 2018
Remembering 41
36:35
George H. W. Bush was a man of honor, courage, integrity and kindness. The last of the "greatest generation" to serve as Commander-in-Chief, the 41st President of the United States will be remembered for many things -- not the least of which is his humanity. Few "great" people are also "good" people, George H. W. Bush was both -- and he will be missed. 
Dec 10, 2018
Words Matter Library: '41 - A Portrait of My Father' By George W. Bush
22:29
This week we are proud to add “41 - A Portrait of My Father” by George W. Bush to the Words Matter Audible Library. This important and moving presidential biography by a presidential son is a must read to understand the both the 41st and the 43rd Presidents.
Dec 07, 2018
Mississippi Smoldering
46:49
In a knockdown, drag out, exceptionally nasty runoff election for a US Senate seat - Democrats in Mississippi came much closer than anyone expected. Elise talks about the brutal campaign and the changing politics of her home state. 
Dec 03, 2018
Words Matter Library – 'Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It' by Steven Brill
41:34
This week we add “Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It” to the Audible Words Matter Library. The latest book by award-winning journalist and best-selling author Steven Brill is a brilliant analysis of how and why major American institutions no longer serve us -- causing a deep rift between a vulnerable majority and the protected few. And at the same time, Mr. Brill gives us hope by explaining how some individuals and organizations are laying the foundation for real, lasting change.
Dec 01, 2018
'How to Get Rid of a President' - An Interview with author and former CIA officer David Priess
48:08

David Priess is a former CIA officer and presidential briefer, his new book “How to Get Rid of a President” tells the history of the political dark arts in action. In the nation's highest office we see election dramas, impeachments, assassinations, natural death in office, mixed with party intrigue, personal betrayal, and backroom deal making. David explains how presidents can be sidelined without being removed from office. An essential Audible title for any political junkie in the Age of Trump. 


Audible -- because Words Matter

Nov 26, 2018
Words Matter Library: ‘How to Get Rid of a President' by David Priess
13:15
This week we add "How to Get Rid of a President" by David Priess to the Audible Words Matter Library. A former CIA officer and presidential briefer, Priess tells the history of the political dark arts in action. In the nation's highest office we see election dramas, impeachments, assassinations, natural death in office, mixed with party intrigue, personal betrayal, and backroom deal making. An essential Audible title for any political junkie in the Age of Trump.
Nov 23, 2018
LBJ and Reagan - An interview with Jonathan Darman author of 'Landslide'
54:06
This week we added "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics, Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, and shows how, from 1963 to 1966, these two men—the same age, and driven by the same heroic ambitions—changed American politics forever. This engaging title is a MUST Listen.
Nov 19, 2018
Words Matter Library: 'Landslide' by Jonathan Darman
12:08
This week we add "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics, Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, and shows how, from 1963 to 1966, these two men—the same age, and driven by the same heroic ambitions—changed American politics forever. This engaging title is a MUST Listen.
Nov 16, 2018
"It ain't over 'til it's over" - Midterm Election Wrap up
44:05
The 2018 Midterms keep going. In what was perhaps the most important Midterm Congressional Election in American history, voters put a check on Donald Trump and gave Democrats a solid majority in the House of Representatives. And almost a week later, some key races still haven't been decided. Steve and Elise talk about what happened, what's happening and what it means for the country going forward. 
Nov 12, 2018
The Gathering Storm of Constitutional Crisis
17:17
Within hours of Democrats regaining control of the House of Representatives, Donald Trump holds an explosive East Room press conference and fires the Attorney General - replacing him with an unconfirmed political hack. Elise, Steve and Adam discuss the gathering storm of constitutional crisis.
Nov 09, 2018
Midterm Election Preview
32:13
It is the most important midterm election in US history. On Tuesday Americans will either repudiate or validate Donald Trump and Trumpism. Elise and Steve look at the closing arguments on both sides and what’s at stake in Tuesday’s monumental election. 
Nov 05, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Columbine" by David Cullen
20:04

In this episode of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible, Elise interviews award winning journalist and author David Cullen about his New York Times best seller, "Columbine." They discuss the evolution of mass shootings and how these tragedies fit into today’s politics.


Audible.com/WordsMatter


Audible - because Words Matter. 

Nov 02, 2018
Rob Reiner - Words Matter Interview
56:23

As Americans prepare to vote in the most important Midterm election in our 242 year history, we sit down with legendary actor, director, producer, writer and activist Rob Reiner -- someone who knows a thing or two about politics, social unrest, culture wars, and taking on a racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic bigot from Queens.


And we take a look back at an iconic book and something America needs now more than ever -- "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy.  

Oct 29, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy
11:33

In this addition of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible we add this Pulitzer Prize winning book by President John F. Kennedy. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses. 


Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to

audible.com/wordsmatter


Audible - because Words Matter 

Oct 26, 2018
Lord Ashcroft - Words Matter Interview
10:35
Elise talks with Lord Ashcroft about the new round of Ashcroft in America research leading up to November's midterm elections - and about his new book "White Flag? An Examination of the UK's 'Defence Capability."
Oct 24, 2018
Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox, author of "Born Trump" - Words Matter Interview
32:55

Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox talks about her best selling book “Born Trump.” From Ivanka to Don Jr. to Eric, Tiffany and Barron - Emily tells us what really goes on inside America’s First (dysfunctional) Family.


Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to:

www.audible.com/WordsMatter 


Audible - because Words Matter 

Oct 22, 2018
Words Matter Library: "Born Trump" by Vanity Fair's Emily Jane Fox
10:50

Like his father, Donald Trump, had 5 children -- hoping that at least one would "turn out like him." Elise and Steve add "Born Trump: Inside America's First Family" by Vanity Fair's Emily Jane Fox to the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible


Audible - because Words Matter

Oct 20, 2018
Post-SCOTUS Nomination Wrap Up
34:38

It was the most watched, the most bitter and the most partisan US Supreme Court confirmation process in more than 25 years. Elise and Steve explain who won, who lost and what the consequences will be in November. Plus in the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible -- Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom by Thomas Ricks


Audible -- because Words Matter

Oct 16, 2018
Words Matter Library: Thomas E. Ricks’ “Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom”
10:32

Elise and Steve put Tom Ricks’ “Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom” into the Words Matter Library.


Pulitzer Prize winning author Tom Ricks provides a fresh look at Winston Churchill and George Orwell in the Age of Trump. Both Churchill and Orwell demonstrated vision and courage as they embodied the idea that words do matter. Tom Ricks masterfully chronicles their separate, yet contemporaneous, fight against the evils of totalitarianism. 


Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to:


www.audible.com/wordsmatter


Audible - because Words Matter 

Oct 13, 2018
Steve Kornacki, author of “The Red and The Blue" - Words Matter Interview
50:05


Description: The 1990s saw the birth of modern political tribalism. Steve Kornacki’s important new book, “The Red and The Blue,” explores the battles between Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich and how they lead to the partisan warfare we see today. 


Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to:

www.audible.com/WordsMatter 


Audible - because Words Matter 

Oct 08, 2018
Words Matter Library: Steve Kornacki’s "The Red and The Blue: The 1990s and the Birth of Political Tribalism."
10:47

In a new segment we put Steve Kornacki’s The Red and The Blue in the the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible. 


Today, America is deeply divided - you either live in Red America or Blue America. Steve Kornacki of NBC News takes us back to the 1990s to find the birth of political tribalism in The Red and The Blue.


Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to:

www.audible.com/WordsMatter 


Audible - because Words Matter 

Oct 05, 2018
Preet Bharara: LIVE from the 92nd Street Y - Words Matter Interview
55:48
LIVE from the 92nd Street Y. In their first interview in front of an audience - Elise and Steve talk with former US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara about crime, corruption and the rule of law in the Age of Trump.
Oct 01, 2018
US Senate candidate Mike Espy - Words Matter Interview
40:20
Elise and fellow native, Professor Eddie Glaude, are back home in Mississippi and interview U.S. Senate candidate Mike Espy. They’ll talk trade, tariffs and what it’s like to run for office in age of Trump. Will Secretary Espy become the first Democrat in 30 years, and the first African American in over 100 years to represent Mississippi in the United States Senate?
Sep 17, 2018
Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson - Words Matter Interview
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Elise talks with Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson about the 17th anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Secretary Johnson reflects on the Russian hacking of the 2016 presidential election and explains why the United States may not be ready to protect against the same kind of interference in the 2018 midterm elections. And Steve has the final word on the New York Times anonymous opinion author - is this the work of an “adult in the room” or a “Trump enabler”? 
Sep 10, 2018
The Life and Legacy of Senator John McCain
35:56
John McCain was a decorated war hero, a maverick Senator and the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. He lived by a set of values and principles that transcended politics and party. McCain loved his country and served it with valor, courage and integrity for 60 years. Elise and Steve reflect on the life and legacy of this great American leader. 
Sep 04, 2018
Tim O’Brien, author of "TrumpNation" - Words Matter Interview
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Elise and Steve talk to "TrumpNation" author Tim O’Brien about how he beat Donald Trump in a $5 billion lawsuit. Tim talks about what it's like to watch Trump when he's caught lying under oath. They discuss the Trump bankruptcies, the Russia connections, and what's really behind Donald Trump's deep and dangerous insecurities.
Aug 20, 2018
Omarosa and "All the best people" - Elise's Final Word
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Donald Trump promised that he would hire "all the best people" for his Administration. Elise explains how Trump's attacks on Omarosa expose his twisted values and blatant corruption.
Aug 17, 2018
A Political Expat's Journey
48:48
Steve Schmidt explains how the party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan has become the single greatest threat to liberty, freedom and human rights under Donald Trump. Then, Elise Jordan remembers Heather Heyer and reflects on the 1st Anniversary of the violent white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville.
Aug 13, 2018
Elise Reflects on the 1st Anniversary of Charlottesville
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On the 1st anniversary of Charlottesville, Elise Jordan reflects on one of the darker moments in recent history. Elise pays tribute to Heather Heyer, the peaceful protester who was murdered during a violent White Supremacist rally one year ago this weekend.
Aug 10, 2018
Margaret Hoover, host of "Firing Line" - Words Matter Interview
40:27
Welcome to "Words Matter" with Elise Jordan and Steve Schmidt. Our goal here is to promote reality. As a wise man once said, "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts." Words have power and they have consequences. In this episode we will explore the questions: How did we arrive at this political moment? Will the Republican Party and the conservative movement survive President Trump and Trumpism? And if the GOP survives, what does it look like and who leads it? We will explore these questions with "Firing Line" host and conservative author Margaret Hoover.
Aug 06, 2018
Welcome To 'Words Matter'
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On this sneak preview of "Words Matter," Elise Jordan gives us a look at what she and co-host Steve Schmidt have in store for their new weekly podcast. "Words Matter" debuts August 6th. New episodes Mondays.
Jul 31, 2018