SuperFeast Podcast

By Mason J. Taylor

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daphne
 Feb 1, 2019
I really love the range of topics that are discussed across the podcasts. There are also really great show notes which make it easy to look up resources etc.

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Welcome to the SuperFeast Podcast! Join tonic herbalist and health educator Mason Taylor as we explore the magical world of Tonic Herbalism. We will explore the relevance of these ancient herbs and medicinal mushrooms in our modern culture of health to invigorate the body, restore organ health, create badass immunity and bring harmony to the hormones. Want to enhance performance, longevity, energy and radiance? Then dive in with us and learn why tonic herbal adaptogens have been used for millennia for this exact intention. So get ready to activate your SuperHuman health as we deliver this deep tonic herbal philosophy right your eardrums.

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#26 Adrenal Fatigue with Sage Dammers & Dan Sipple
01:39:02

In today's podcast the terrific trio, Mason, Dan and Sage, come together to talk all things adrenal health. The boys address the concept of adrenal fatigue and what that term has come to embody in todays society.

 

The gents discuss:

  • Adrenal fatigue and deficiency.
  • The role of adrenal health in day to day function.
  • The concept of Jing essence and how that effects our adrenal health.
  • Just how important adrenal health is in keeping the rest of the body in harmony and balance.
  • The role of the 'fight or flight' response and how that has changed from primitive times to now.
  • Stress and fatigue related disorders.
  • The hormone interplay that occurs when the adrenals are taxed.
  • Indicators of 'adrenal fatigue', tissue cortisol vs salivary cortisol.
  • HPA (hypothalamic pituitary adrenal) disfunction.
  • Adrenal health and lifestyle design.
  • The importance of cortisol in keeping inflammation in check.
  • The power of 'walk about' in healing.
  • Reprogramming the nervous system and the significance of sleep.
  • Switching from 'active' to 'passive' exercise to aid adrenal health.


A take away quote from this epic chat:

"The sage would adopt any life imposed on him without incrimination or remorse, without losing his good humour and contentment, because his intimate being posses the means to communicate with the organisation of the world in such a way that wealth, honour, leisure or their opposites are incapable of effecting the power of the soul." 

 

Who is Dan Sipple?

Dan is a also known as The Functional Naturopath who uses cutting-edge evidence-based medicine. Experienced in modalities such as herbal nutritional medicine, with a strong focus on environmental health and longevity, Dan has a wealth of knowledge in root-dysfunction health.

 

Who is Sage Dammers?

Fuelled by a passionate desire to help people live the ultimate life and create a better world, Sage studied raw and superfood nutrition and traditional herbal systems, especially Taoist tonic herbalism. He has worked with and trained under the world’s leading master herbalists and nutrition and longevity experts in Costa Rica, Australia, Bali, China, and America.

Sage has developed products internationally and given lectures on peak performance nutrition in Australia, Bali, America, and France. His years of experience in this unique arena have allowed him to cultivate an unparalleled combination of cutting edge nutritional and culinary expertise. Sage has started tonic elixir bars in 5 star luxury hotels in Paris and Sydney serving longevity elixirs disguised as gourmet treats, introducing the novel concept of healthy indulgences to the market of world travelers.

 

Resources:

 

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

 

A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher :)! Plus  we're on Spotify and Soundcloud!

 

Check Out The Transcript Here:

Apr 14, 2019
#25 Everything They Forgot To Tell You About Women's Health with Nat Kringoudis
46:11

Today Mason and Dr Nat Kringoudis discuss the missing link in reproductive health - the fact that our youngsters are not being appropriately educated in this field. Dr Nat is extremely passionate about empowering the young and educating our children, rather than letting them find their way in the big, bad online world. They explore the skills that a care giver can incorporate in their repertoire to hold space for these conversations around fertility, reproductive health, sex and everything in between. Dr Nat raises the point that, from a young age, we are told narratives around most sexual, reproductive and gender-specific body functions. But why? For example, why do we tell our youngsters that babies are delivered by a stork? Tune in to today's episode to explore how we can begin to redefine the sexual educairon of our teens, for healthier generations to come. 

 

You will hear about:

  • How normalizing sexual/reproductive facts with kid's is a really proactive preventative measure to educate the future generations
  • 30% of teens are googling reproductive health; let's shift their first experience from the online forum, to a face to face age-appropriate conversation
  • The stress around infertility, tends to overtake any structural or physiological fertility issues
  • Synthetic hormonal birth control (like the pill) mask any underlying symptoms
  • Kids observe and absorb; we need to make sure we are educated and empowered to lead by example
  • If you suffer from PCOS, intermittent fasting can be a game changer
  • The biggest hormonal issues stem from stress
  • Try aligning to the feeling you want, rather than the goal
  • How synthetic birth may encourage infertility
  • STD's can have devastating long-term fertility effects
  • Hormonal issues are normal until around age 18 for females
  • How condoms and barrier methods should be non-negotiable for teens

 

Who is Dr Nat Kringoudis?

 

Nat Kringoudis is a Dr of Chinese Medicine, acupuncturist and best selling author. She’s also the owner of The Pagoda Tree, a hub for natural fertility and women’s health in Australia. She recgonised the large gap between conventional medicine and supporting wellness and has developed a unique style to women’s natural health care – integrating the western medical approach with alternative therapies, Chinese medicine and natural fertility methods.


Natalie has accepted the task of inspiring wellness, not only to those embarking on becoming parents, but equally important to her, educating young women of how their choices shape their future health. She believes this is the key to addressing the hormone imbalance and infertility epidemic. For Natalie, fertility isn’t just about babies, it’s about outstanding health. Her knowledge in fertility and natural medicine regularly features in her column in Australian Natural Health magazine, in major publications, including Marie Claire and Cosmopolitan as well as regular TV appearances as a wellness expert for the Today Show and The Morning Show. She is also a two times best selling author, her latest achievement Beautiful You helps young women to understand and support their hormones through their lifestyle.

 

 

Resources

Beautiful You Nat Kringoudis
Website:  natkringoudis.com.au
Twitter: Nat Kringoudis
Facebook: Nat Kringoudis
Instagram: NatKringoudis
Podcast: The Wellness Collective

 

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

 

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Apr 03, 2019
#24 Candida and Medicinal Mushrooms with Sage Dammers and Dan Sipple
01:40:52

In today's podcast the boys come together to discuss candida overgrowth, its frequency within the population, the varied symptomatology associated with this common yeast-like infection and the strategies you can use to bring the body back into balance. Mason, Dan and Sage draw on their superior knowledge of this condition from personal experience, sharing their wisdom from a traditional Taoist tonic herbal perspective and a functional naturopathic approach.

 

The gents discuss:

  • The fact that Candida albicans is a naturally occurring organism within the body and only becomes problematic when imbalance occurs
  • how chronic use of antibiotics can contribute to the condition
  • how diet and lifestyle practices can help to bring things back into harmony
  • the common symptoms that candida overgrowth is present, e.g. chronic fatigue, brain fog, digestive disturbances, weakened immunity, oral thrush, fungal infections within the the skin and nails etc
  • the particular clinical tests you can use to investigate and diagnose candida within your body
  • how you can use your symptoms and health history to identify whether candida is a problem for you
  • foods that aggravate the immune system and exacerbate candida overgrowth
  • the importance of food combining in regards to candida
  • candida from a naturopathic perspective and the clinical markers used to identify the condition
  • the importance of normalising the body's circadian rhythms and adrenal response is in regards to healing
  • candida from a Taoist perspective and what's happening within the organ systems, particularly the spleen
  • how candida leads to jing depletion and exhaustion within the system as a whole
  • the correlation between candida and leaky gut
  • the Jing herbs you can use to rebuild your foundational energy stores, these include he shou wu, cordyceps, rehmannia, morinda etc
  • the importance of lifestyle factors such as sleep, rest, breathing practices, nature time and reduced caffeine and sugar intake to bring combat candida overgrowth
  • the lifestyle tweaks you can use to bring the body back into its parasympathetic mode so you can heal. Reishi and Ashwagandha are game changers here
  • how cutting carbs and sugar can help manage candida symptoms
  • using fats (ketones) as fuel
  • how herbs such as pau d'arco, chaga and reishi can assist healing
  • the benefits of probiotics and fermented foods such as sauerkraut and coconut kefir 
  • the Body Ecology Diet
  • the importance of sunshine and vitamin D, sweat and movement
  • the herbs and nutraceuticals you can use to break up stubborn biofilms
  • the importance of supporting the liver with herbs such as schizandra, burdock and dandelion root and st mary's thistle 
  • the importance of full body detoxification in healing from candida overgrowth
  • the three phases of liver detoxification and the nutrients your body needs to successfully complete them
  • the immune boosting powers of medicinal mushrooms when healing from candida, particularly chaga, reishi, turkey tail, maitake, Mason's Mushrooms
  • the difference between ground dwelling mushrooms and those that grow on trees e.g medicinal mushrooms 
  • bringing awareness around the glycemic load of gluten free products when working to heal candida overgrowth
  • the tests you can use to distinguish candida from other bacterial loads within the body, particularly the OAT (organic acids test)

 

Who is Dan Sipple?

Dan is a also known as The Functional Naturopath who uses cutting-edge evidence-based medicine. Experienced in modalities such as herbal nutritional medicine, with a strong focus on environmental health and longevity, Dan has a wealth of knowledge in root-dysfunction health.

 

Who is Sage Dammers?

Fuelled by a passionate desire to help people live the ultimate life and create a better world, Sage studied raw and superfood nutrition and traditional herbal systems, especially Taoist tonic herbalism. He has worked with and trained under the world’s leading master herbalists and nutrition and longevity experts in Costa Rica, Australia, Bali, China, and America.

Sage has developed products internationally and given lectures on peak performance nutrition in Australia, Bali, America, and France. His years of experience in this unique arena have allowed him to cultivate an unparalleled combination of cutting edge nutritional and culinary expertise. Sage has started tonic elixir bars in 5 star luxury hotels in Paris and Sydney serving longevity elixirs disguised as gourmet treats, introducing the novel concept of healthy indulgences to the market of world travelers.

 

 

Resources

 

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

 

A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher :)! Plus  we're on Spotify and Soundcloud!

 

Check Out The Transcript Here:

 

Mason: Hey, everybody! Welcome to the SuperFeast podcast. It's Mason here, and I've got an epic conversation coming for you today with some of my favorite men in the health space. I've got two names and faces you're going to recognize. We've got Sage Dammers from, you're joining us from over in LA, Addictive Wellness. Incredible tonic herb-infused, sugar-free chocolates as well as smoothie elixir packs, and all infused with all these beautiful tonic herbs and mushies we're going to be going into and as well as tonic herbs on their own.

Mason: And Sage is one of my absolute favorite voices coming out of that like, gnarly melting pot of LA with this absolutely next-level in health and this integration of health systems from all around the world, and Sage has been in it for so many years and you've heard him talk on it before, and you've heard his wealth of knowledge. It's always surprising to find out what he's going to be able to come up with. And today, talking about candida, is going to be no different.

Mason: And I've also got Dan Sipple, friend, functional naturopath down the south coast of Sydney. Dan is absolutely my favorite go-to naturopath, we've been friends for a long time. He is now officially my mother's naturopath and mine and Tahnee's naturopath, and so that's a beautiful little evolution that's going about.

Mason: Boys today we're going on a deep dive, three way conversation around the yeast-like infection candida albicans. Welcome guys.

Dan: Hey, hey.

Sage: Thank you for having us, Mason. It's a pleasure to be here.

Mason: Yeah it's going to be so good, so fun. Alright, you know I don't know how many other people are going to be having the best time absolute ever having a conversation around a gnarly infection that's become ... I guess it's not as trendy, I'd say? As it used to be? But it's definitely still a hot topic, especially a hot topic in the west.

Mason: Candida albicans, yeast-like fungus within the body that, as I mentioned, now it's absolutely a normal part. These candida cells are a normal part of our body, of our flora, exists within our mucus membranes, our skin, mouths, genitalia, vagina, intestines and other organs. We're going to be talking about this phenomena today where we see some kind of environmental, or maybe lifestyle, or maybe it's been a modern medicine antibiotic that's then led to an upset within our microbiome and basically in many other areas, including immune deficiencies. That's led to this fungus, yeast within the body then overgrowing and getting what many people have experienced, which is fungal overgrowth.

Mason: First of all I just want to go to Sage. Just going to go to you and say hey and give people a bit of an insight with your history of candida.

Sage: Yeah, absolutely thank you Mason. For me personally, I dealt with candida first hand. When I was growing up I was a vegetarian but not a healthy by any means. I was just on carb overload throughout my whole Childhood of like rice and pasta and pizza and any carb I could get my hands on. Was very fortunate not to be eating fast food, but still was not the most ultimate diet ever.

Sage: So when I came into my teen years, about 15 and a half, I started developing chronic acne, probably more to do with my diet than anything else. Diet and combination of hormones and things like that. I didn't know what to do with it at the time, you know? I tried lost of topical things and things of that nature but nothing was really making an impact in helping me, and that's such a stressful thing as a kid to be going through. And I resorted to taking antibiotics, because it was the only thing that was going really do me any good at the time in terms of the superficial results that I was looking for. I didn't understand the whole repercussions and the future downsides of it, I just knew, this is going to help me in the short-term not to be so self-conscious. And I had no other solutions. I didn't know of all these other things I know about now. I wish I would've.

Sage: So I was on twice-daily antibiotics from age 16 until 19 and a half.

Mason: Gnarly.

Sage: So these years of antibiotics, as you can imagine, wreaked havoc on my microbiome, and left me ripe for candida to come in and take over. So it was a thing where in the beginning I enjoyed fruit so much, and even as I was getting healthy and getting onto much more of a natural diet I still really enjoyed fruit. So I didn't want to give that up, and that was the one thing holding me back from really making progress against candida, where I couldn't make the jump to go fully into what was necessary to push back on the candida.

Sage: And eventually it got to the point where I got real mentally strong about it and got strict and went through the Body Ecology Diet, Stage One, where it's really strong. Cutting out carbs, cutting out sugars, bringing in probiotics and fermented foods and some of the most powerful antifungal and immune-enhancing herbs, and over the course of a couple years that really got me through it and got me to a much better stage of health. Life has been much better ever since.

Mason: Yeah, I mean to the extent that where I think that history of yours has played such a huge part in your life that it's absolutely entwined in your philosophy, the ways that you make your chocolates and your elixir blends, right?

Sage: That's why I have sugar-free chocolate, is because I [inaudible 00:05:25] but still have a sweet treat, while I was in the candida recovery stages, and it didn't really exist. It wasn't out there. All, you know there's all these chocolates made with agave and coconut palm sugar and all that, and regardless of where somebody may stand on those things, they are still gonna be feeding bacteria, fungus, yeast and molds in the body, and it's not going to be your friend most times and especially not on recovery from candida where you need to not be feeding these guys. So I made it out of necessity, and it's turned into a beautiful life of being a chocolate maker.

Mason: Yeah, I love it. The fruit of the healing journey and I still attest that it's the only sugar-free chocolate that I can really thoroughly enjoy.

Sage: Thank you.

Mason: Dan you've had quite a history with candida, now you've really had this firsthand clinical experience for a number of years now. I'm interested to hear what your path with candida has been.

Dan: Yeah sure, and not too dissimilar to Sage. IT very much came as a result of antibiotic exposure, and so I've talked a couple of times on previous podcasts. In my earlier years, 17, 18, 19 I had issues with viral load and autoimmunity, which kind of set the scene for other opportunistic organisms to take over, and it was a course of about five or six years where I was kind of floating in that space where my immune system was compromised to the point to where I would actually need antibiotics by the time these bacterial infections would take over. It was like a vicious cycle that got set up, and I see that often in clinical practice too, where once that cycle starts it's very hard to get off that train. Particularly if you are being dictated to by the western medical model, which at the time I was heavily under the influence by.

Mason: [inaudible 00:07:19].

Dan: Yeah, absolutely that's right. So lots and lots of antibiotics, I'd get better. I'd push my body a bit, the infections would return to the point where there was clear and overt infection. Not knowing anything about herbal protocols or functional medicine or naturopathy or anything of that kind of world at this stage, but it was very much a long road to try to undo that vicious cycle and get out of that loop? And incorporating things like Sage is talking about with diet and lifestyle and cutting the alcohol and the sugars out, you know. Optimizing vitamin D status and restoring the microbiome. So it was definitely one of those things that didn't go away overnight, and I think that's really important to drill into the listeners as well is that once you get traction with something like candida you really need to set up a lifestyle that facilitates long-term resistance against that so that these opportunistic organisms can't take back over.

Mason: Candida's such an interesting one. The level of symptoms that arise from a chronic infection are so vast, and it's one of those ones where if you read the list you go, my gosh; I don't know if that list is very useful because there's so many other infections or deficiencies that can give rise to it. But then there are, of course, some specifics. And so looking at the list, you've got chronic fatigue, brain fog, digestive issues. Then when you start getting down a little bit more the reoccurring yeast infections, oral thrush. Even going into sinus infection, you can start seeing candida is being implicated when there's food allergies, when there's intolerance. Of course, dead giveaway is fungal infections on the skin, within the nails especially within the feet, and then a weak immune system. Quite often is it a chicken or an egg, you know? You can see that when there is weak immunity, especially when you see medications in particular like antibiotics and chemotherapy, and then hormone disrupters like hormone replacement therapy ... what is it? Corticosteroids, then? Am I saying that right?

Dan: That's right, yeah. Immunosuppressants, corticosteroid-based medications because they're basically squashing the immune response, which, although ameliorate symptoms, allows these guys to take an even stronger hold.

Mason: Mm. Oh and then you even see joint pain and definitely the alteration of moods coming about from candida. And so we go, okay. Unless you've got some of the telltales, like reoccurring thrush, fungal thrush in the mouth and fungal infection coming up on the skin, how do you clinically hone in on a diagnosis that in fact we do have candida cells proliferating in excess in the body?

Dan: Is that question directed at me, Mason? Just to clarify?

Mason: It is, and I will just make ... And I don't think you have clinic, Sage. I don't know maybe you didn't know that Dan.

Sage: No, no clinic for me. So if I hear the clinically word in there just [inaudible 00:10:22].

Dan: Yeah, so to answer that question. That's a really good question, Mase, to really sort of hit on the head in the forefront. I think with an issue like candida it's very, very rare that I see that alone. What I usually find is that that's there in concert with just a good old dysbiosis where you'll see bacterial pathogens that are overgrown, you may or may not see parasites as well. So I don't think I've ever seen just one clean cut, pure case of candida without all that going on with some sort of viral load or bacterial imbalance. And so what we find is, is that the best kind of treatment is not just to isolate the yeast in this case and attack the yeast. It's to nurture that whole ecosystem, to treat it like an ecosystem where you're setting up a new environment basically, to where it's not conducive for it to thrive, which as we say does incorporate diet, lifestyle, herbs and the whole concert and symphony of things.

Dan: But in terms of testing, you can do blood testing for antibodies to see if the immune system has actually seen the candida albicans and made antibodies against it from the base cells? The only downside to a test like that is that you don't whether the immune system has made those antibodies 10 years ago or if it's happening right now and that's where the symptoms really need to guide you. If there's overt signs of candida as is like on the tongue, the toenail, the respiratory issues and what not, then you've got more of a case for that so that's where usually doing the stool test and looking at candida markers in combination with that blood is a really good way to back that up. Because if you're seeing it on both, if you're seeing it in the stool, antibodies, then you've got quite a good case for it being currently present. And in that case, you know, obviously, you want to make the protocol more specific to yeast in that case.

Mason: Sage, how do you go about this? Because I completely ... I like the fact that I've got access to Dan's knowledge and can get a little bit more specific, and I know you recommend this a lot, in getting some testing, getting some panels done so you're not just, like, shooting in the dark. But how do you, dare I say kind of like, I know I can definitely say that I come from a more folky perspective when it comes to gentle diagnosis? But from your perspective how do you go about that in really identifying that candida is in fact present?

Sage: Yeah, I don't know exactly what your health care system is like in Australia, but I know here in the US it's expensive to do lots of testing. Very often things will not be covered by insurance so you'll have to pay them out of pocket, so I always find it's really nice to be able to at least somewhat get a little bit of progress in terms of a self-diagnosis before you go investing in testing so at least you know what tests to go do, so you don't have to spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. Because it can get real expensive.

Sage: So with candida, as you mentioned, you're looking at a lot of symptoms in terms of recurring infections, oral thrush, fungal issues. And then it's a combination of looking at your symptoms and then looking at your history in terms of antibiotic use. If you've had extended use of antibiotics, especially if it's for two weeks or more in the past, your odds are going to be pretty high that at some point candida has taken a good foothold in your system and started to really proliferate beyond the natural levels that you'd find. Candida at small levels is actually a good part of a healthy microbiome, good for nutrient absorption and beneficial in that way. But when things are thrown out of balance you're going to get in a lot of trouble.

Sage: So there's many really good questionnaires up there online that people can do just to get an initial idea, just to get a rough feel? Then from there you can progress to testing, which I think is incredibly important. If you can afford it, whether it's this kind of testing or whether you're looking at your thyroid or hormones, rather than just experimenting without data indefinitely and maybe five years from now you finally figure out what's really going on. Save yourself a ton of time and a lot of trouble and probably save yourself money in the long run in terms of being able to spend money on the right supplements and herbs to help you out, and foods, rather than dealing with misdiagnoses for an extended period of time.

Mason: Well let's say just getting to the food here. Often we know, that yeah we've had a look at kind of the pharmaceutical angle, the antibiotics especially. Especially going in and nailing the microbiome and causing our ability to actually create the environment where we can naturally regulate healthy levels of this, this and candida cells being within the body. Let's have a look at the food that you see as being an accumulative force or an aggravator, that leave our organ function, immune function, the microbiome function to getting to the point that candida can actually take hold. What are the, what are these nasty ones or excessive ones that get nasty when they're excessive?

Sage: Yeah I think it is many things that happen in conjunction. Probably, if you had never taken antibiotics, and you've got a really strong immune system, you could deal with having some of the wrong foods coming into the body, right? Even if you never did antibiotics, but you're having tons of sugar, but your immune system's really strong ancestrally? Maybe you're okay and maybe you can pull it off. Or if you're having lots of sugar and in combination you're having, say, ground mushrooms, like culinary mushrooms that haven't been properly cleaned and tend to be very contaminated and nasty. And these are different from tree mushrooms, I want to be real clear about the distinction-

Mason: I'm going to leave a lot of time for us to get into that distinction, thanks for bringing that up so when we-

Sage: Yeah yeah. So we'll come back to that a little bit later. Patience everybody, we'll get there.

Mason: Patience, you mushroom fiends!

Sage: Depending on the individual, right? Because everybody's got a bit of a different setup in terms of the microbiome and adjusted powers, but for a lot of people I think also: poor food combining. Especially having lots of, like, leafy greens? That take time to digest and they're very fibrous? And combining that with really sugary starchy fruit. I've found that for a lot of people the fruit wants to burn up fast and move through, and it's like rocket fuel. But then you have, you know. It's like a Ferrari on a freeway, wants to go, doesn't like being driven slowly. And then you have these green leafy vegetables that take time to digest, they're very nutritious, they're like a big rig carrying lots of, you know, nutrition on them and fiber and what not. And they slow down the traffic, and the Ferrari is getting into road rage. It's like it develops into a situation where it's a ripe breeding ground for proliferation as things start to ferment in there.

Sage: So that could also be a situation that, while it may not specifically cause, it wouldn't be a root source of candida? It would not be supportive or helpful if it was something that you were dealing with.

Mason: Mm. Love it. Hey Dan what about you, in terms of dietary lifestyle factors that are really going to come in and, you know, if ... I like what you said there, Sage. There's going to be different constitutions at work here. You're going to have an ancestral ... It might be the difference being breastfed or not being breastfed, in terms of whether your immune system is strong or just ancestrally whether you've got that strong gene expression within the immune system, and then acknowledging that. Because long-term, I think you've definitely seen it over in LA, I definitely have here in the health, same way. You almost get to a paranoia of candida becoming crippling to your lifestyle. Is that something you see happening a lot? Sage?

Sage: A little bit. It's not people, the awareness of it in the community is not as strong, I would say, as it was in like, 2011, 2012? There was-

Mason: Glory days.

Sage: ... back then? You know, these trends and focuses always kind of come and go. I don't know, it's weird because it's still as much an issue as ever, but people kind of feel the need to talk about something new, so they can sell new books and post new videos. So. As we move more further beyond some of the basics than we really need to, the solution was often right at hand.

Mason: Yeah, very funny. And I agree. I think candida is having a PR nightmare right now. I think-

Sage: [SIBO 00:18:45] has stolen all the attention from it.

Mason: Yeah. And so Dan what's your take on this? Dietarily, lifestyle-wise, what are the conditions that you see as precursor to, especially if someone has the constitution that is ripe for the picking for candida being an issue. What do you see those being?

Dan: I completely agree with Sage, and I think I'd add on to that what I find really prevalent is when people's circadian rhythms are out? When they're using, you know, dietary sources to jack up their adrenal response. So caffeine, you know, refined sugar obviously. Nailing the circadian rhythms and leaving space between meals sounds really, really simple, but it is quite pivotal when you're dealing with any sort of dysbiotic environment when it comes to the gut, or the respiratory system, or any immune suppression. Getting the circadian rhythms locked in and normalizing the nervous system, and the adrenal response is huge.

Dan: Because if you think about it, if you've got fire going on in that digestive system or anywhere in the body that's of a yeast or a general viral origin or whatever, your adrenals are seeing that and are constantly trying to put out those flames with a fire extinguisher, hence the adrenal fatigue phenomena. So normalizing those rhythms and supporting the adrenals can't be understated.

Mason: Yeah, I would definitely attest to that. I mean, we've spoken about ... I think I've spoken to both of you previously on the podcast talking about digestion in case people aren't realizing digestion has a huge part to play with candida albicans. Especially from a [Daoist 00:20:29] perspective when you start seeing weak spleen Chi.

Mason: That can really be the feeding ground from a triple burner perspective. That middle burner really emerging with whether it's just dampness or weakness within the spleen and therefore that whole spleen and digestive network through the stomach, then allowing strong digestive function, strong governance of your bacterial levels. What we see there is that can be the catalyst to then going down into the lower burner where we see damp heat emerge, and we start seeing yeast infections within, basically throughout the entire sexual organ system. And then also moving from that middle burner to the upper burner, where we see heat and fire through the lungs with all those allergies and all those respiratory issues and through the heart as well.

Mason: So basically I'm going to pause it there because I think if I open up that can of worms and make a distinct ... in these treatment protocols it's going to take us in a completely other direction.

Mason: But there's a few things then that you were touChing on that I want to leapfrog off, and that was definitely the Jing and exhaustion aspect here. You talked about the fact that, I like seeing the Jing as the pilot light for digestion. If you are exhausted, if you're adrenally exhausted, if you're leaking that essence, if you're relying on coffee, if you're mentally stressed and you're in emotional patterns that continue to make you, you know. Those things that make you emotionally excessive. You're going to see that you don't have the foundations and roots within your body, within the core energy centers of the kidneys to really stabilize you. And to that, you're going to see a thorough endocrine disruption go on at that stage, because you are overly adrenalized. And you can't produce natural cortisol, you can't get down to, like you have to rely on these cortisone creams and all that kind of stuff. But then at the same time you're not going to be able to lead to that real healthy sex organ function.

Mason: And so, basically, that core is ... You see that consistently, I do as well, Sage, where that exhaustive, gene-depleting lifestyle doesn't allow for the pilot light to go on so that the spleen can actually turn on that fire and appropriately-

Dan: It can probably become, I think it can really become a vicious cycle, because with the candida, it's creating higher levels of permeability of digestive lining. So you're getting, essentially leaky gut, and this is releasing bits of food and digestive materials into the bloodstream, which is causing inflammation and autoimmunity. But it's also releasing the toxins, which are being produced by the candida. Its own, basically the candida poo being released throughout your body.

Dan: So now you've got systemic inflammation firing away, and that is going to be a major leak of Jing. So that in itself is depleting the adrenals, and it's a vicious cycle because okay now your adrenals are depleted, now you can't fuel your immune system because you're experiencing exhaustion, and the candida can even grow further. And it's really unfortunate. But at the same time if you can get in there with a little bit of action and start making some moves on it, you can slow down that cycle and start to spin it back.

Mason: Well let's start here, in terms of looking at treatment. Once we've identified that perhaps we have an environment, and as Dan was saying: you're not going to be able to just isolate candida. There's most likely going to be a number of coinfections, and you're definitely going to see, I'm sure you're going to see a bunch of worms of various types being present at that time because we're going to see a repressed immune function. But starting off the bat, quite often we're looking at removing the excessive candida from the body, cleaning up the diet, and I guess loosely saying this is going to be a cleansing or cleaning aspect of the protocol.

Mason: Now at this point, I'd like to get both your two cents. We'll start with Sage. Do you like to bring in, of course lifestyle factors, and I think it's obvious that are going to reduce stress, but do you like to bring in herbs or other practices to, for lack of a better word, tone our ability to store and restore Jing?

Sage: Yeah, of course. So naturally, you and I and I bet Dan is into these as well, you want to look at your top Jing-building herbs. Things like He Shou Wu, Cordyceps, [inaudible 00:24:58], Rehmannia, Morinda. And so I think building that base of core vitality is an essential component of any healing program, basically. Because without that your body just does not have the energy and the safety. When you're in such a Jing-vulnerable state? And you're prepared to run out of fuel and die at just about any moment? Your body is afraid and not going to divert resources to dealing with your fungal issues because it's just concerned with not, like, crashing and burning and that being the end of the show.

Sage: So absolutely, building the Jing is essential, so you can build ... you're kind of simultaneously wanting to build the Jing, and address the candida itself to stop the Jing leak, and then you can start improving at like, twice as fast.

Mason: And Dan, what's your take on that?

Dan: Yeah. 100%. Nervous system and adrenal support is absolutely necessity initially before you, I think before you even go in thinking about using the big guns to break up the biofilms and reduce the candida load with strong antimicrobials, which are all part of the protocol. But it really depends on the person in front of you to. So for example, if I've got someone who's burning the candle at both ends, doing the 75-hour work week, and only wants to take antimicrobials it's like, ha ha. No, no, no, no, no. We have to nail the lifestyle first. That is absolutely essential. And so sleep, blue lights, EMFs, all of that stuff comes into it. Diet, you have to have the foundations ready and ripe for the body to go, aha! Now I can enter healing mode, now I can switch over to parasympathetic. Because the foundations are there.

Dan: What I often do in those cases, too, with someone who is really on this end of the spectrum and is part of that go-go-go lifestyle? Is just little simple tweaks, like green tea. So instead of coffee? It's green tea. It's anti-strep, it's anti-candida, it boosts [inaudible 00:26:58] bacteria, it's antioxidant, it's lymphatic. So little tweaks like that. You know, removing the sugars. You sort of stage it out.

Dan: Then you might bring in a probiotic, and you'll use a strain which has been shown to reduce fungal load and boost natural killer cells and various components of the immune system. And you step it up. And you step it up. And you step it up. And you carefully watch for reactions, because that's another part of it with any sort of protocol where you are reducing microbial load, because you are obviously going to run into potential detoxification issues if that person's ability to clear out these metabolites can't keep up with the front end. So that's something that you really have to be careful navigating.

Dan: And like Sage said earlier, this can take a long time, people. This can take, if it's been a long time it can be up to one or two years. And then once you're there to have to maintain where you've got to, and in my case I got there a long time and ended up, a little while later, in a moldy apartment over on the northern beaches and it all went out the window. Those things come up, so you have to be really on to the environmental side of it too.

Mason: Okay, and let's just, before we move on, I want to touch on the nervous system and supporting the nervous system to getting into that parasympathetic state so we can actually get to resting, digesting, and healing. Some of your favorite methods, distinctions whether they use technologies or whether they be something simple that we can access through nature.

Dan: Yeah, nice one. So I'm sure we've touched on it before Mason, but just barefoot earthing. Getting back into nature, a very simple thing to do. Slowing the breathing down, doing diaphragmatic breathing, not breathing shallowly from the chest. And doing that as often as possible, making that really, really priority. I often team that up with the blue light blockers, which you can get now. Get people to slap those on at like 7 PM at night every night leading up to bed. SwitChing off wifi at night, that's really good for the nervous system.

Dan: So all these little tweaks to get you over from fight-or-flight over to the parasympathetic side of the nervous system. You can also pair that up with a few gentle botanicals like chamomile, passionflower, and Reishi mushroom for example. That trio works fantastic.

Mason: Yeah, like a beautiful moon milk at night, maybe with a bit of a ... well I like doing a chamomile, lavender infusion within the milk there, been doing that for retreaters recently and getting those Reishis in there. Beautiful nightcap.

Mason: Sage, I know there's like a crazy crossover of what you do and love and recommend there, with the breath and the barefoot and getting the blue light out. Sage, one thing I'm going to have to do and put in the notes here is get the instructions on how people can completely get the blue light off their phone. Everyone's like, oh night mode. It's like, no, no, no; I'm like, Sage has got this beautiful hack for getting all the blue light out.

Sage: Deep in the settings you can modify it so it glows all red at night, and you can still fully text and stuff. It gets weird if you're trying to, like, check out Chicks on Instagram? Because they don't look good.

Mason: And that's you, man. I imagine it gets weird for you all night. AnnaBlanca's like, "What you doing?"

Mason: "No I'm just doing some, looking at like, photography development, old school style, so weird."

Sage: But other than that, it's great to be able to flip on all red at night, and it's just, everything in your phone, the only colors are red and black, for everything. And there's a shortcut you can set up where all you have to do, and I'm not sure exactly how this goes on with iPhone X and past that where there's no home button anymore. But with the older ones you just tap the home button three times for the shortcut, and it'll put it right into the red. So it's easy to turn on and off, so it's great. And then even for some random reason you need to check the time in the middle of the night, it's all red, so. It's ideal not to use it at all, but if you have to look then at least you're not messing up your melatonin levels and shocking your system in the middle of the night.

Sage: And other things that I like for getting into that parasympathetic state is, Reishi mushroom has been mentioned. Ashwagandha is another one of my absolute favorites because it works on so many aspects of health that people are struggling with these days.

Mason: It goes right in that moon milk as well, the Ashwagandha and Reishi with that infusion. Oh man, it's so good.

Sage: And then also, infrared saunas are great to put you back in that parasympathetic-

Mason: Oh yeah.

Sage: ... state because you're being surrounded by the infrared, which is that heat signature that we as humans give off. That's why you look through night vision infrared goggles, and you see people. So if you think back, and this is a theory my dad first shared with me, and this is not scientifically based, really; it's just a theory, and you see if it resonates with you. But if you look back at when the last time was that you were fully surrounded with infrared heat in somewhat of a dark and fully safe place was in your mother's womb.

Mason: Oh, true.

Sage: And so it is getting you back to that place of being fully provided for, fully safe, everything take care of and everything's okay, all you need to do is Chill out.

Mason: And you know what I'd probably put there, like, putting those ocean sounds on. Like over when Tahnee was pregnant we were listening to the placenta, and it had this woosh, woosh. So getting those sounds in there at the same time, those ocean sounds while you're meditating in that infrared sauna. And we should put some links, just here on this call we've got some incredible resources for people to go and get a clear light sauna. I mean, your folks offer them over there in the States, and we're both friends with Sebastian here who owns the New Zealand, Australian, and European and UK branch, so basically no matter where you are in the world we're going to be able to basically get you hooked up in-

Sage: We've got the connections [inaudible 00:32:52].

Mason: Yeah, we've got the connections. We'll put some links in though depending on which continent you're on and give you some ... you know. Just give them the old, Sage and Mason ... and Dan. Well let's throw Dan in there as well. Sage, Mason and Dan sent me. So get you hooked up because I agree that is one of the absolute, ultimate technologies, having an infrared sauna in my house for getting the nervous system toned up. And we could just do a podcast on that, I'm sure.

Mason: Now let's start-

Sage: Real quick, if you don't mind, just to finish on the nervous system. I'm a huge fan of the Wim Hof method for this. Breathing and the super oxygenation? For strengthening the nervous system and gently building up to cold exposure. People get intimidated because they see people do it on Instagram in the beginning, but it's just like lifting weights. You train your nervous system, you don't jump in and do something super challenging, you know? Go to try to bench press 200 kilos on your first time going to the gym.

Sage: You do the 30 seconds of cold water at the end of a hot shower or after taking a sauna, when it's not going to be that crazy. And from there you gently build up. Eventually you're doing 10 minutes of a cold shower, or you're doing a five or ten minute ice bath and it's not that big of a deal anymore because you built up to it at a sustainable level. Of course if you hit it too hard in the beginning, that's why people catch a cold. Their nervous system's weak and it can't handle being out in the cold if they hit it all at once, and it overwhelms them. It's like if you try to do too much at the gym, you're going to injure yourself, it happens. So I think that is one of the most incredible tools that I've experienced, and now that I've been doing it for, almost four years. And it's been, yeah. So powerful for me.

Mason: Yeah and I think that's a good distinction there because when you look at the branding and what works is seeing Wim walk up and down in his shorts, and it's covered in snow. And basically it's very important for us to remember that these aren't systems of fanaticism. These are systems of appropriateness for you to build that core function. So I definitely throw my support behind that. Wim's a great guy and also for those of you that are maybe wanting to go even deeper through a process with your breath, if that might seem a little bit unobtainable? I'll also put a link, um, Benny Fergusson, my friend, the Movement Monk, has a really amazing, gentle breathwork practice that is very intricate and very much takes into account these, the mental and physical unification that's going to have to go throughout that process.

Mason: So you've got lots of resources there, everyone, for getting that nervous system toned. Then we start moving into how are we going to get ... We've got the baseline. We've got building back our Jing, getting our nervous system toned, and I think we've kind of talked about it's the bread and butter. And maybe bread isn't the best example here because it's got the yeast raising factors, that are actually going to be implicated when it comes to candida.

Sage: Non-starchy, gluten-free bread and butter.

Mason: Mm, mm. Grass-fed butter.

Sage: There you go.

Mason: Basically now I want to get into where we're getting into the clearing now. Getting into the clearing, starting to bring some herbals, start bringing in some compounds that are going to start building back our microbiome, start countering this intense leaky gut that we can start seeing and that permeability that we've already touched on. Sage, you're starting out. What are your pillars for starting to clear the body and get it back on track in those initial stages, which may be for three months or a year.

Sage: Yeah, yeah. It is a bit of a journey, and that was the most intimidating thing to me in the beginning that actually stopped me from starting for a couple of years, after I kind of knew I was going to have to do this. But I was super intimidated by the fact that I was really going to have to be serious about cutting down on carbs and sugar for anywhere from six months to two years, and I wanted to figure out any other way. But in the end it came back to this: you've got to deal with these basic things.

Sage: So you really want to minimize carbs, cut out all forms of sugar, because all of this is beating the candida. Eventually, one day, you will be able to bring it back in moderate amounts, as you've rebuilt your whole gut microbiome. But for now, you really want to cut it down. And you're going to see tremendous ancillary benefits from this, aside from just the candida? You're going to be able to start burning ketones as a fuel source and start burning fat, so you're probably going to experience some great weight loss, some people are probably going to enjoy that. And when you're burning these ketones for fuel and burning fat as fuel, healthy fats, you're able to produce far more ATP, which is your pure cellular energy, than when you're burning glucose as fuel. So you're going to have a lot better energy, once you transition.

Sage: It can be a little challenging as your body first is transitioning to burning fat as fuel. But once you get there it's pretty amazing. And you'll learn to get creative with stevia and things like this that can still give you the pleasure of sweetness in your life, you don't have to say goodbye to that. There's many ways, we put tons of recipes on this stuff on our YouTube channel. And so that's the first step, is cutting out all these things that are feeding the candida.

Sage: And then, what are you going to go after it with? One of the best that I found was Pau D'arco tea. It's one of the most powerful, natural, antifungal herbs coming out of the Amazon. You can make a really nice tea with that, it goes great as the base of any hot elixir, or you could just be sipping it on its own, all the time. And then two of the other very powerful herbs for me, the tonics that we all know and love are Reishi mushroom and Chaga.

Sage: Chaga for me was especially impactful. I was doing some nice tinctures and capsules but where I really started experiencing the benefits of it was when I would get the raw chunks of Chaga mushroom and cook them for three hours into a real strong water extraction, freeze it overnight so that the water gets inside the cell walls, these cell's walls that are super hard that you can't digest? Actually busts them open as it freezes, then boil it again the next day and make it super strong, and I was getting into drinking it regularly. That was a huge assist in my journey against candida.

Mason: So ... Yeah, go for it.

Sage: Oh I'm just getting on a roll.

Mason: So, well actually before. I want to keep you going, but I just want to comment on two things there and Dan, get your two cents in.

Mason: That's a really appropriate use of the ketogenic diet. I really like ketogenesis as a distinction in what's ... in a way to possibly get us losing weight that's excessive and actually shouldn't be there? And also getting our mitochondria rocking to the extent that we can, for a time, get off sugars and get into this state where our metabolism can get a bit of a reset and it's a little bit of a breath of fresh air for our immune system for a time as well. Rather than just, go after it, get shredded, nonstop, don't ever not be keto.

Mason: I don't know what your sense of that is, but we've discussed it a couple of times on the podcast and it's come up with one of Tahnee's conversations with a practitioner in terms of like, for women. An appropriate time to use ketogenesis and when it's not actually that useful? And we've spoken about it, Dan, in terms of what that excessive fat can do to go and contribute it over too much of a long period to gut permeability thanks to the off-gassing that that excessive fat gives through the bacteria.

Mason: But I just wanted to really like ... I like that distinction that you just made there, Sage, I think that's for most people as casting a wide net. That seems like a sensible time to be using ketogenesis.

Sage: Yeah. I think, you know there are anti-aging benefits of it in terms of minimizing glycation and things of that nature. And I think it's a transition diet, something you do for a time period to really change your inner terrain and external appearance and everything. And then probably long-term more of a cyclical ketogenic diet is probably the more beneficial thing, where you go in for a bit and out for a bit. And it's more of a natural flow.

Mason: And of course, Pau D'arco. I think we're three massive Pau D'arco fans, coming from the lapacho tree in the Amazon. Heavily a part of my healing protocol. I hit it for probably a couple of years I had it constant rotation in strong amounts before it was time for me to then cycle off.

Sage: You get to where you don't even want to think about it anymore. Just, you hit a point where, okay. I've had enough, I'm good.

Mason: Yeah, I've had it absolutely enough. And that is, I think that's a really appropriate way to let your body govern, you know? Because of course, with any herb, especially a herb that has strong antifungal, antimicrobial actions, you're going to want to cycle off that at some point. Because your body's going to want to have the breathing room to go and do its thing and regulate.

Mason: I just wanted to throw my support behind those. Pau D'arco had such an incredible, such an incredible impact on me moving ... I don't think I even mentioned the fact that I did, that was my catalyst, was candida, in getting into this. I was having fungal eruptions on my skin and a suppressed immune system. I've told the story I think on the podcast a couple of times, but it was definitely for me likewise, that combination of Chaga mushroom and Reishi mushroom, but then I'd use a base of Pau D'arco tea, and that's a very simple herbal approach.

Mason: Then I had He Shou Wu coming in and nourishing my kidneys in the beginning, and that was the beginnings for me. Getting off the, of course I got off gluten, I got off the grains. I got off the conventional western diet, which is very suppressive to the spleen Chi and it definitely was to mine, and it was really suppressing my digestive capacity. And I was able to bounce back pretty quick, especially with those three primary herbs, the two mushies, and the Pau D'arco bark, and then the He Shou Wu coming in and supporting.

Mason: And after I want to hear all your awesome rambling Sage, but I want to let everyone know that after this we're going to dive into the mushies.

Sage: Yeah, so those are my first two pillars really, is starve the candida and get in the beneficial herbs that are going to help clean things up in there. And then you've cleared it out, and what are you going to put in there? You're not just going to leave a blank slate and let the candida come back in all over again like you did with antibiotics. You messed up once, don't do it again. So now, we want to introduce really great bacteria into the gut. So it's good to be taking some probiotics.

Sage: I'm really a fan of taking spore based probiotics, or ones that are shown to have efficacy in actually making it through and setting up shop in the gut, rather than being killed off somewhere higher up? Maybe in the stomach by digestive acids and things like that? SO rather than just looking at the number of colony forming units, which is what's advertised, you actually have to do a little deeper digging to see if the company's actually had testing done, to show the level of survivability, which makes a huge, huge difference. You can have a trillion-strain probiotic formula that all gets killed off in the gut. You don't get anything from it, or you can have a 30 billion and all 30 billion survive and make it through and set up shop and are doing all sorts of work for you. So it really makes a big difference, whether it's surviving or not.

Sage: And then getting on fermented foods, was a big part for me. Tons of sauerkraut, fermented vegetables ... Drinking coconut water kefir was really supportive for me, and yeah. That's the fermented side of things, and those for me were the three main pillars.

Sage: You know a few other herbs that were beneficial were, like occasionally using a aged kyolic garlic extract was also supportive for me. One time early on I heard someone say, oh yeah you should juice a whole head of raw garlic. Candida will freak out about that. Holy crap, I had the worst burn, I pretty much gave myself an ulcer in the stomach from that. So don't juice a whole head of raw garlic and try drinking that. It's not a good idea. Learn from my mistake.

Mason: Yeah, you lose your friends, you lose your intestinal lining.

Sage: It was painful, man.

Mason: That's so good. But hey, I think it's awesome that everyone can learn from our fanatical mistakes. Because I've definitely gone down that road.

Mason: Yeah, I love it. I love that it's simple, I love that it's methodical, I think that it's really ... Over the years I've seen that same combination coming up again an again and again when you go through all the complexity and all the confusion in terms of what you should and shouldn't be eating and drinking, basically these are the core pillars in terms of what's going to get you from A to B in terms of healing as soon as possible. You mentioned Body Ecology, I think that's really ... I think you kind of consider that the Bible of the anti-candida diet, is that right?

Sage: Yeah. It's a great place for anyone who's thinking they might be dealing with a candida issue to start out and get a good set of basic information and approaches and what foods can be beneficial and what not. Because they'll get a taste of things, and a feel of things I think from listening to us today and get some really good ideas. But it's good to have a kind of a manual, that you can really pore through and refer to and can address it from all sides. SO I highly recommend it to anyone that things they may be dealing with candida. Read the Body Ecology Diet book.

Mason: Love it bro.

Mason: Dan, what's your take? When you're entering into this what foods are you bringing in, what foods are you eliminating, are there any distinctions in terms of any particular constitutional elements that you like to take into account?

Dan: Yeah, definitely and I'm one of those practitioners where, I probably do the least amount of dietary manipulation compared to a lot of practitioners. What I typically do is, apart from the obvious things, things such as alcohol, excessive caffeine use, refined sugars. Usually if we can take dairy and gluten-containing grains out of the diet and lower the amount of starches? I generally don't do too much above and beyond that in the initial stages. A, because of the amount that it puts onto the patient who is already compromised to some degree under this burden of stress, and so we just want to take out those really common sort of insults to allow the inflammation to kind of just settle down in the gut.

Dan: But I think probably what we perhaps should've mentioned a little bit earlier is just movement and sweating, and we talked about sauna of course. But sunlight and movement are massive for candida. When I treat people that have chronic yeast issues, they're different people when you consider how they're presentation looks in winter compared to summer. And that I attribute largely to the upgrade they get from their immune system when their vitamin D level are optimized? Because we know that with optimized vitamin D levels we're producing higher amounts of our body's own antimicrobial substances like [inaudible 00:47:54]. Which has been shown to be stronger than many, many, many botanicals when tested in terms of destructing biofilms and getting viral load and bacterial load down and so forth.

Dan: Movement's huge. You know lymphatic detoxification, that's massive as well. To ensure the person is moving and sweating and getting adequate sunlight. Dry skin brushing, that's effective as well. But at particular sort of point in treatment I like to then depending on the person's constitution introduce some gentle biofilm destructors as well. It's one thing to bring in antifungal herbs, but if the immune system can't see them, the shell of these critters isn't cracked up to allow their contents to be exposed to these botanicals or our immune system, then we're kind of not getting as much bang for our buck. So compounds like N-Acetyl Cysteine, absolutely brilliant for breaking up biofilm, really good for supporting the liver as well and glutathione production, which is our body's master antioxidant and you want prime levels of that anytime you're doing any sort of changes to the gut ecosystem or detoxification. The good old, Pau D'arco and cat's claw tea combo I found to be personally really successful and I think that's probably one of the first things you and I ever jammed about back at the markets years ago.

Mason: Yeah man. For sure, and I think I can attest to Sage's love for cat's claw, una de gato, as well. Everyone's like, oh my gosh you guys are eating cat's claws? It's just a bark, everybody. I've got to just mention that.

Sage: [inaudible 00:49:31].

Mason: I get that every now and then.

Mason: Yeah sorry Dan, I had to get that little joke in there.

Dan: Yeah, absolutely. Definitely. So, yeah. In addition to that, pomegranate I have found to be just absolutely magnificent when it comes to any pathogenic overgrowth. I can't speak highly enough about that particular herb. I haven't found any other botanicals that simultaneously lower things like bacteria and candida, whilst up-regulating good bacteria at the same time. So pomegranate tincture is definitely going into the protocol for anyone who has any sot of fungal overgrowth.

Dan: Apart from that, once you're doing the biofilm work, the person's moving and sweating, the vitamin D is optimized, and the dietary foundations are on point, you do have to think about the liver and all the metabolites that you're breaking down. Because the liver ultimately has the job of buffering and keeping the oil clean. And again, that feeds back into using things like N-Acetyl Cysteine, Alpha-Lipoic Acid, good old and St. Mary's Thistle, burdock, dandelion root just as teas can be really pivotal as well.

Dan: Just, garbage in, garbage out. Just get people thinking about the more you're killing off, and the debris you're producing that has to be exiting the system because you can get that enterohepatic recirculation, and you don't want that, because the bugs will just set up shop in a different area of the body.

Mason: So can I, I'm just going to before we move on. I just really want to bring a summary to this aspect of treatment, where we've identified that perhaps we do have an overgrowth of candida. We get into the tweakings of the diet, whether we do it gently, and I would agree that it's a psychological conversation of whether someone's going to go down the hardcore, phase 2 Body Ecology when it's like no sugars whatsoever. Maybe some green apple, I think at this stage-

Sage: It's Phase One, Full Intensity. And then Phase Two is, like, gentler as you've gotten better. Yeah. Phase One is the Full Intensity.

Mason: And also just making distinct what Dan was saying there, what are the core things that I'd be introducing if they're in a state where it's just not possible for them to make those changes? And that would be, again, whether it's going to work or not, these are ... this is what everyone's going to have to have that real dance within themselves, I think that's safe to say, and what's possible for you. And then you're going to have to manage your expectations with that. And as you said, Dan, I don't know, what were you saying dietarily with your core? Refined grains, excessive sugars, definitely getting off processed sugars, I think that's ... if you're on processed sugars you're going to basically be shooting yourself in the candida foot every single time you try to jump at him.

Mason: So we've got that aspect, you know? Possibly looking at ketogenesis for a particular time, and so basically we've got that dietary component. Within talking, within a herbal sense and a treatment sense of getting our nervous system really toned and getting us in a calm place where our body can actually heal, getting our foundations of our Jing through Jing herbs. Like you mentioned, He Shou Wu, Rehmannia, Cordyceps, Eucommia Bark, and I think you mentioned Cistanche as well, Sage, and also you're going to get a good crossover there. And you don't have to have all of these, you know. You pick your herb, and Ashwagandha is also a beautiful one that's going to have those jewel effects on the nervous system and on the kidneys.

Mason: Then we've gone to talk about, right. What herbs are we starting to include and what supplements are we starting to include to actually start clearing these out. Medicinal mushrooms we're going to go into next, but that's a huge aspect of building up basically the Jing of the immune system, which is always implicated. I can definitely always ... Definitely always, that's never the case. But I can generally say that you're going to see an immune suppression when it comes to candida. I think that's a fair thing to say, would you guys agree?

Sage: Absolutely. Because you're very vulnerable to other things happening and taking place.

Mason: Absolutely. So then we see both your suggestions in terms of what we're going to be getting coming in. We're going to get the herbs like Pau D'arco, the Chagas, the Reishis, Maitakes, and turkey tails are always going to be wonderful bringing those in to fortify the immune system. And you've talked about N-Acetyl Cysteine and started talking about this other aspect of this phase, which Sage, I know you're all over. And now that we're here Dan I really appreciate you bringing up the biofilms, the ability for us to actually break down. I don't know where you're atin terms of just describing what these biofilms actually are. I know there's a bit of calcification involved in them and I know the immune system especially has a hard time identifying that there is something there behind this little encasing, or this little barnacle, in which the infection lies beneath. It's one of ... Its survival, opportunistic mechanisms to not become identified by the immune system.

Mason: And at that time so I just want to talk just a little bit more on that stage within this protocol, of actually knocking out these biofilms so our immune system can start getting this candida infection under control. So I just want to reiterate: your favorites for breaking down these biofilms, and then I just want to have another quick little conversation around opening up detox channels, supporting liver, and also my favorite, including binders, like clays within the diet to help moving these things out. And then also inclusive in this conversation is going to be, the saunas. We don't have to go too much further into it, but if you've got that going on, you're going to be definitely opening up that channel of detoxification through the skin.

Mason: So in terms of knocking out these biofilms, your faves Dan?

Dan: Pomegranate first and foremost. N-Acetyl Cysteine which we mentioned, and another one from the silkworm, Serrapeptase, I'm sure you guys are quite familiar with as well.

Sage: Yep, absolutely.

Mason: Another big favorite.

Dan: Yeah. The only caution with Serrapeptase is long-term, it can ... Let me rewind a little bit. Good bacteria as well do form biofilm, and so there's a concern that long term use of agents like Serrapeptase and N-Acetyl Cysteine can also crack up good biofilms, which you don't want.

Mason: Mm. And that's like, it's natural with anything that's a treatment protocol or enzymes therapy, with the Serrapeptase, you want to make sure that you're cycling it and respecting the treatment period, and you're not going in an “altering” the system of the body too long-term. Would you like the use of MSM in there? Have you ever found that useful?

Dan: Yeah I do, I do like MSM and that's a big one I'll use in conjunction with this protocol particularly if people have joint-related issues. Which as Sage said, we often see that with candida, these fungal metabolites get passed around and float around through the body. It can cause quite painful and swollen joints and brain fog. That's another thing, with brain fog the components that get broken up with candida compounds actually form acid aldehyde, and that's why you get people who say, I feel like I'm drunk; I'll go to work and I just feel like I'm wasted and I can't think properly; my short-term memory's gone. And that's because of this acid aldehyde that the candida produced.

Dan: SO yeah, sorry. Kind of went off on a little tangent there, but-

Mason: No it's really funny when you see those news articles of people who they found had so much fermentation going on in the gut they were tested to be drunk and they hadn't had any alcohol at all. So bizarre, but it's true life.

Dan: Next thing we know there'll be pulled over and getting breath tested and being fined as having [crosstalk 00:57:19].

Mason: Soon enough. You want to get tested for candida? Get pulled over and the cops [inaudible 00:57:23].

Dan: Yeah, imagine that. Imagine we get to the point that we're really concerned about the immunological health of our population. Random candida testing everybody. Pull over, like, parasite testing, you know? We've just got your back, everyone.

Mason: Concerns your driving safety. Sorry Dan.

Dan: Do not operate maChinery while candida is present.

Mason: Yeah.

Dan: But yeah, so to summarize. N-Acetyl Cysteine, Serrapeptase, the pomegranate. Good old green tea. Sounds very boring and we're used to hearing that but that is so, so good for candida in particular. We can talk about things like lauric acid and caprylic acid, they're often good additions to do particularly in those stubborn cases.

Dan: The other one I didn't mention is berberine. Berberine is really efficient at cracking up biofilms and getting on top of ... And this is what I love about herbal medicine. It's like we're isolating candida but we know we're going to have a good effect on viruses and bacteria at the same time. So if someone does come in and they've got known candida issues, but they also have [inaudible 00:58:32], we know that using agents like berberine and pomegranate we're hitting both on the same head, if that makes sense.

Mason: Mm-hmm (affirmative), mm-hmm (affirmative).

Mason: Absolutely. I mean, yeah, it gets a little bit different when you're using herbals rather than isolates. Beautiful list there, Dan. I really like the Serrapeptase- MSM combination for breaking down those biofilms and definitely going to have to get a little bit more into pomegranate, definitely through my support behind the berberine.

Mason: Sage, in terms of breaking down the biofilms, you've mentioned the immunological aspect of being able to then through the mushrooms get underneath those biofilms and clear out the fungus. What's your favorite ways of breaking down that encasing layer?

Sage: I'm very similar to Dan, here. I'm a huge fan of serrapeptase and not just for this application, but also others. Many friends I've shared it with have had tremendous results in terms of clearing up scar tissues and clearing up calcifications and clearing up, like, cysts that would not go away. Ovarian cysts and things like this. It's been so cool to see how much benefit people have gotten from it.

Sage: I think a lot of people try serrapeptase and other forms of systemic, proteolytic enzymes? And they're just not doing it right so they don't get the results? It's kind of, I think, for a short-to-medium time period, like Dan said, not long term. Short to medium term, you want to basically take as much as you can afford. If that's two capsules a day, fine. If that's five? Fine. If it's 10? Okay now we're talking. And you want to have it with a lot of water on a totally empty stomach, and just kind of lie down and be still a while and let them do their work. And that's when you can get the real magic of these systemic enzymes.

Sage: Then as you were mentioning, pomegranate's great. N-Acetyl Cysteine, berberine does not get nearly enough credit for what a powerful compound, for those who don't know it's an extract from various plants it can come from, most often the Indian barberry, and it is so great at killing off all kinds of bad bacteria and fungus and things like this in the gut as well as helping with the biofilms. I didn't personally come into my awareness until after I was already on the other side of my candida journey. But I sure wish I'd had it and had access to it at the time. And it's so good for, overall blood glucose and blood sugar balance. It's actually shown to be just as effective if not more effective than metformin, which is the most common diabetes drug. So. It's so good all around.

Mason: So good. I think everyone's got ... I think ... I like that that wasn't an excessive list? I find that would be ... I like having a supplement ceremony in the morning, that's how I can really get my head around ensuring that I don't feel like I'm feeding this sickness psychology or mentality? Because that's one of the things that's going to get your feet stuck in the mud. And when you relate to yourself as like, that's it; I've got candida and I'm sick and I have to take all these things because I'm sick. I like to have a little ceremony where I can pause, at the beginning I might have it all written down, what my intention is behind each supplement, just so I can connect to it, just for a moment. That way there's the sudden activation of the placebo where your whole body is engaged and opening up to utilize it. And you can also feel whether it's working for you or not, a little bit more in that way.

Mason: So I think a beautiful list guys in terms of Dan bringing up the supporting of the liver, and I really want to throw in what was always useful for me is a binder. I like clays, I like getting in a number of different type of dietary clays in different colors from different places, but the easiest for everyone, I think the same in the US, Sage, to access. Bentonite clay?

Sage: Yeah, bentonite clay and also activated charcoal is I think another one that we're all taking into consideration.

Mason: I think especially during periods of high die-off, if you're experiencing those high levels of detoxification, I would ... For me, I can't do charcoal more than a week. But I think you're right, there are folks who don't tend towards a dry kind of constitution whereas I can go to a little bit more of a dry constitution. I feel like I get dried out no matter how much water I have with charcoal, but I will definitely throw, I completely agree. Those periods-

Sage: They have to find the balance of how much works for them, and they can go by feel.

Mason: Well exactly but I ... Clays. I get my clay, I put it in a bit of water and I leave it overnight? And I like, this is generally part of my rotating diet, letting it soak and rehydrate. And I get up in the morning and drink roughly a liter of spring water when I first get up and then I'll throw my clay down. Just knowing that that's going to be getting in and binding to anything gnarly that's in my ... that my metabolism has created that might be a little bit of, like just assisting my body's own waste processes to get that out. I'm a big fan of it.

Sage: How thick is it when you mix it up? Are you like, eating it with a spoon or are is it drinking or how do you ... ?

Mason: It's probably on the edge of sludge, but I'm able to drink it. Yeah.

Sage: Awesome.

Mason: And you know, quite often what I've done. I just finished a retreat and we were making a base tea of Pau D'arco and cat's claw, and we were using that as what we were hydrating the clay in overnight? And then we'd get that out. That would be their shot in the morning and so you could have all those antiviral, antimicrobial, antibacterial compounds moving through the body at the same time. And we were also, because in that instance their body began to release quite a bit, I also used powdered zeolites, Australian Zeolites. I think we've all used them quite extensively.

Mason: But between those three binders, between charcoal, zeolite, and clay, you've got some good choices there. Do you use those at all clinically, Dan?

Dan: Yeah I do, and I've got a couple others to throw in as well. Slippery elm, is really, really beneficial there and you get the added bonus that not only are you soaking up those debris you're also getting fermentable substrates to [inaudible 01:04:30] bacteria in the gut, which we know, if candida is present, they're going to be quite suppressed and have taken a hit.

Dan: Soaked Chia seed is awesome too. Super simple, you can do it at home. Soak Chia seed, wait til it has forms that beautiful gelatinous substance and use that daily. And then chlorella. Good old chlorella is fantastic and really good affinity for heavy metals, too. That's another thing with heavy metals and candida, I'll find that they often go hand in hand, particularly if there is a lead or mercury or [aluminum 01:05:02] load. Knowing that that's going to suppress the immune system, you're going to have a limited response to a lot of treatment until you deal with those heavy metals and take the burden off the immune system. Bring it back online, and then try the immunomodulating compounds along with antibacterial herbs and so forth and you'd get a lot more [inaudible 01:05:22].

Mason: Mm. And Sage I'm going to hand it over to you in a second because I know your eyes lit up when you heard him mention chlorella. But I just want to reiterate to everyone that when you're getting all of this thrown at you it can seem like this one huge list of everything you need to take is just starting to dominate your world. OF course there's cross-pollination of all of these things and what they're doing in the body.

Mason: But I find it very useful to start to somewhat compartmentalize intentions in this healing process so that you can really start to wrap your head and your heart around it. So that binding and chelating category that we're talking about now, if you can have that somewhat isolated into your lifestyle flow and your daily dietary flow where you have a particular shot, you might be having your clay with your zeolites, and bang you can have your little shot of chlorella and then you can start, at the same time, layering in these little, like, right; in the beginning I'm going to be knocking out these biofilms because I think that is something you can be doing in the beginning. You can have that little, that ceremony just say, talking about when you get into taking your capsules.

Mason: You might be really focusing on that serrapeptase and go, great. I'm going to have my tin and take a little moment and let those enzymatic catalysts go in and do their thing. And then, you can bite back. What else is aChievable for you? I can take a little N-Acetyl Cysteine or a little berberine, great. I can include that and I know that's cellular rejuvenation, it's supporting the body to really get in and get these detoxification pathways rocking and identifying these biofilms so the body can really start seeing what's going on immunologically and with candida at the same time.

Mason: Just these little things. I feel like we're not just leaving you high and dry here. When it gets confusing, I'm sure we're happy to reach out to any of us because we want to make sure this is a very accessible, and doesn't get overwhelming. Just acknowledge that yes, there's a lot to learn here. There's a lot to learn about your body and the way it works. And this is, in fact, a wonderful calling for you to start digging in and understanding these various processes within the body, and how we have this plethora of compounds and technologies and this apothecary at the tips of our fingers that can really support us in this when our intention is strong, and we just do that little bit of extra research and make sure that we're really hitting in the right places at the right time.

Mason: But Sage, do you want to throw any two cents behind chlorella?

Sage: Oh yeah, I just love chlorella in so many ways. I've been having pretty much a tablespoon a day forever whether it's the tablets and just chewing on those. And those do get stuck in your teeth when you chew on them, but interestingly chocolate gets them out of your teeth so perfectly. Have one piece of chocolate and somehow it kind of lubricates them out, where they could be stuck in your teeth for hours otherwise.

Sage: I'm crazy about chlorella from it being such a great source of protein, to being 10% chlorophyll by dry weight, so it, having this property of chlorella growth factor, it causes the beneficial bacteria in your gut to multiply at faster rate and it's also the fastest growing food crop in the entire world. I believe it quadruples every 24 hours, if I'm remembering the numbers correctly.

Sage: And then also, it's incredibly high in RNA, so it's actually the highest natural food source of RNA, previously they thought that it was coming from oysters so they would always say, oh yeah, oysters, this is the highest natural source of RNA. Chlorella absolutely blows it out of the water by many times. So it's such a spectacular food and a great binder and detoxifier, as Dan was saying. For me, it's just kind of part of my program that is my long-term detoxification strategy that is ongoing because we live in a weird world with lots of toxicity. Especially being in a big city here, always being exposed to all kinds of stuff. So it's a good thing to have, just ongoing as your insurance policy.

Mason: Mm-hmm (affirmative). A lot.

Mason: Moving onto the liver, I just want to ... Generally we have to talk about, if we're talking about healing strategies, we need to talk about supporting the liver. And so everyone can start entering into this encapsulation or if you're taking notes. Okay, the liver work.

Mason: So you've already mentioned the, I think you mentioned kind of, like the dandy blend. So getting onto the dandelion, you can just be brewing that up as a tea with the Pau D'arco and add in your medicinal mushrooms and boom. You've got that burdock and you've got that dandelion, that beautiful liver nourishment going in, in a very sustainable way. Now additionally, I've always got Schizandra in on these protocols. Now I've found the easiest way to include it where it's not like bundling up? In that morning supplement and that morning tonic protocol, I rather than just, as well as having a smoothie and throwing everything in there? I don't know what your take is on it, I generally don't love people in these times when we're clearly seeing spleen Chi deficiency, I don't like throwing a lot of wet, hard to digest, often cold compounds into a smoothie and just knocking that back. I prefer the diet to be non-damp forming, and very nourishing and also I definitely want to make sure it's not getting in there and aggravating any heat.

Mason: So I don't, I think ... This is a casting a wide net, but just to backtrack and talk about that dietarily you can start to look from an Ayurvedic or a TCM perspective. What's really going to, what foods are going to be really contributing to weakening my spleen Chi and what's going to support my spleen and be able to get back on top and becoming nourished? So to an extent, easy to digest foods with that little bit of testing with the fibers, I think, is a really appropriate way to go about it. But with the Schizandra , I love having an afternoon Chi, when it comes to my Schizandra . I put, start with a quarter teaspoon, maybe it's just half for you, but I like putting a teaspoon of Schizandra extract in just hot water and that really gets me through the afternoon. It can be another great way for you to be supporting your liver.

Mason: Sage, anything else you want to throw in on that?

Sage: Yeah. Schizandra is so nice as a stage one and stage two liver detoxifier. And I think this is an area where, and many areas, but I think here is one where people could really benefit from having some genetic testing done. It's so affordable these days in terms of being able just to do like $100, 23andMe genetic test. And you get some of your genetic information regarding ...

Sage: Well here's how you do it. The ancestry test with them, don't do the health test with them. The health information they give you is not very insightful. And then you take the information from them and there's various sites like Promethease or FoundMyFitness also has some good analyses, and you upload your raw data to those sites and they provide you, for like 10 bucks, a really in-depth analysis that you can actually get some real wisdom and personal insight from.

Sage: Why it specifically applies here is you want to know, hey how your genetics are around liver detoxification. Some people will have better stage one and worse stage two, or vice versa, and you need to know ... that would kind of guide you in terms of what you need to be taking to support a certain component in your liver detoxification rather than another.

Mason: So good. Dan I know you're into it as well. What's your two cents on that?

Dan: Yeah, Sage, I'm one of those, exactly one of those people. Really awesome at phase one, terrible at phase two. Yeah, I couldn't recommend that any more. Getting those little snips is really pivotal I find, because a lot of people can be working for a long time at these issues and getting a little bit but not really getting optimum? I find the genetic testing for those types of folks can often be just the cream on the cake, and it can often provide what they're looking for to go, hey I'm not producing, like hardly any glutathione; I really need to target that, that needs to be forefront before I do any of this I need to up-regulate glutathione and phase two.

Dan: So, yeah. Onto phase one and phase two, that's a really important thing to bring up I think because a lot of folks don't know that you need nutrition to perform adequate liver detox. So often we get in this sort of mindset that, hey I'm going to use this plant or this compound or this binder and that's going to detox me. And it's like, yeah that's cool. But that kind of comes later. Your liver has to package up and break down these metabolites in order for those binders to grab onto and to bring out of the system. And so, for phase one for example, you need your B vitamins and different sorts of minerals in order to do that. So if you've got malabsorption or if you're deficient, a lot of your metabolites aren't even getting broken down adequately and you're creating lots of oxidated stress.

Dan: And then other folks, like myself, you can do that job really well but you can't transform them very well over to phase two, which is kind of where the liver packages them up and sits them there waiting for the bus to come through and pick it up, which is like the binder. And that's where compounds like Schizandra as Sage mentioned, turmeric, broccoli sprout extracts and other agents are really good at up-regulating phase two enzymes? And then phase three, which we coined now, and that's kind of really coming to the forefront. For a long time it was just phase one and phase two. Phase three is like that bus that comes along and picks up the garbage and takes it out of the system. And that's where the binders and the charcoals and the clays are really valid.

Dan: But yeah, nailing those first two sort of upstream phases is very critical and gets overlooked quite a bit I find.

Mason: Okay. That's awesome. We love going upstream, and I think that's like, I'm loving this. We're creating this whole huge world, and we'll just throw it behind everyone again. I remember being in that place when I was hearing this all for the first time? And going, shiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttt.

Dan: What it was, what the hell?

Mason: So you know. I just want to remind everyone there's lots of show notes, and we're accessible. I'd really recommend to listen back to this podcast again. If you're implicated, if you're not just curious about this but you've got some work, if you're realizing you've got some work to be done? At the same time this isn't just a protocol for candida. As you can see we're working on the entire environment through this. You're going to see a lot of crossover, with generally upgrading and cleansing the body. And I think it's a really sensible way to do it.

Mason: Before we move on to mushrooms, I know I've said that a lot. If you swing that Traditional Chinese Medicine route, if you're working with a TCM practitioner, again I come at it from more of a [Daoist 01:16:30] perspective, I'm kind of like a hobbyist when it comes to TCM? So this isn't expert recommendations. But if you're working with someone and you want to get some, or you've got access to herbal formulas, basically in this cleansing period when you're removing waste from the body? In terms of what you want to be doing in supporting the triple burner get itself back on track, because it's often a triple burner factor when it comes to candida from what I can tell, you're going to see an immediate implication in the lower burner.

Mason: These are the symptoms like vaginal excretions and just basically along that line. You're going to see dampness and you also want to see that you are expelling phlegm and heat from the body. So that's what you're going to be leaning towards. Especially if it's that you're getting those lower symptoms, damp heat clearing formula is one that I know is used quite successfully. It's got gentian and skullcap, and gardenia, [inaudible 01:17:36], Rehmannia. So that's very useful, especially if it's in that lower burner? And then a little bit higher, if you're trying to really work that upper burner and the middle burner symptoms. So that's coming up to the spleen, dampness in the spleen or definitely low Chi function with the spleen, and then implication in the lungs, coptis formula is also used. So coptis and gardenia again, angelica and chrysanthemum and a bunch of other wonderful herbs going on there. Just in case you swing in that direction and you wanted to get some pointers.

Mason: Now. Can you take medicinal mushrooms if you have candida, Sage?

Sage: You better take them. You'd better, if you want to see some real improvement, you'd better.

Sage: So I know this is a question you guys get all the time, I get all the time. Absolutely. It's such a silly concept that's been spread around that because you have a form of bad fungus run amok in your body that you should not introduce any other higher forms of fungi into your body. Now while you may want to avoid ground mushrooms like portobello mushrooms, button mushrooms and things like this that are often contaminated with mold and therefore would be really problematic, these are mushrooms that grow on trees. These are medicinal mushrooms that ideally are growing in a very clean format and they are going to give your immune system the power and the education and the weaponry and the potential to go in and bring things back into balance in your body. They're enhancing your immune system's own natural intelligence.

Sage: It's like, if your phone doesn't have the tools that it needs, then maybe you need an operating system upgrade. This is the operating system upgrade for your immune system, to give it the new tools to work with.

Mason: So good. What are your faves? You've mentioned Chaga and Reishi that were pivotal in your healing journey.

Sage: Yeah, Reishi and Chaga, Cordyceps which I love as well for many things although I don't find it to be as powerful particularly in the candida realm. Reishi and Chaga, specifically. Very strong Chaga tea, making it on my own, it was super helpful for me.

Sage: And then of course you have things like turkey tail and Maitake, especially if you can get Maitake defraction as a supplement. It's very potent. But for me, the biggest game changer in my experience was Chaga, but of course everybody's body is a little bit different, though it may be different for others.

Mason: What about you, Dan?

Dan: In terms of mushrooms, yeah. Coriolus, turkey tail, Maitake, and I think using a good compound of all those things. Something like Mason's Mushrooms, for example. There's some other practitioner brands with some really good combinations of four or five different types of fungus which I'd recommend.

Dan: But yeah, going back to that original question of can you use them, an analogy I like to use when I get asked that question is: if we have a bacterial overgrowth we're going in there with bacteria, aren't we? You know. Probiotics, you know? Because you conquer with the higher classes, like Sage said. It's the same principle with fungus really. We're using superior fungus to combat lower grade fungus. And we know medicinal mushrooms in the wild do this. So that is a really useful kind of note to pass on to people who are a little bit confused about that.

Mason: Yeah and I think it comes up heavily because the culinary mushrooms is what everyone talks about. Somebody mentions a mushroom they think they're talking about buttons and brown buttons and portobellos and those ones that you're going to buy in the store. Fair enough, we haven't really been exposed to buying Reishi mushroom and lion's mane at the grocery and there's no distinction that there are, in fact, just like the plant kingdom. And I think I heard you mention this recently, Sage, it's a nice distinction. There's not just one type of plant. There is an incredible, almost infinite amount of expressions in that plant kingdom. And likewise in the fungal kingdom we see the same thing. And so we're talking about a particular-

Sage: Even in the animal kingdom. Like, if there's a human who is misbehaving, you're not going to say, oh don't send a human to go set them straight because they're just a human; they're going to make the problem worse. No you send them in to kind of compassionately interact with them and see what the deal is and get them into some neurofeedback or something.

Mason: Very good Sage. Oh I get it.

Mason: And so naturally, I think I'm ... I don't know where you're at in terms of agreement that you do leave out sort of those soil-born mushrooms From a candida diet? I definitely think it's something that I would be doing, is leaving out those button mushrooms and those soil-born mushrooms and I can let everyone know that they are nodding, so we have nods.

Sage: Full support.

Mason: And a number of, I've seen a couple of theories on this. I see that you get a little bit ... We've talked about this previously, Dan, in the gut podcast, it can become molecular mimicry? And so there's such a similarity between that kind of yeast expression within those yeast cells within the soil-born mushrooms and the culinary mushies that it's so similar to the candida and the yeast infection that the immune system can get a little bit more confused in that light.

Mason: But I've also seen people talking about the fact that these culinary mushrooms fight for the food sources with the candida and can be beneficial. I haven't really seen anything backing that up, or showing that that's true in any way. I don't know if either of you has seen anything like that? Attesting to that?

Dan: That's a ... I can't say that I have, so not fully confident to go into that. I don't know about you, Sage.

Sage: No, me neither, me neither.

Mason: No, and I kind of ... I rustled around a little bit and couldn't find anything, it was all anecdotal. And so that was something I would leave out. But when it comes to the medicinal mushrooms, we definitely seeing a different kettle of fish in the mushroom kingdom. We're definitely seeing an incredible increase in one directly implicated aspects of the immune system is the macrophage activity activation that is straightaway, is going to assist your body on an immunological level. Kind of start you ... Kind of like an internal binding or an internal detoxification protocol for your, the macrofied activity to get in there to this candida albicans and moving it out.

Mason: But at the same time we see such a flurry of activation, but not purely as stimulation when it comes to using Chagas, Reishis, Maitakes, lion's manes and turkey tails. We don't just see this stimulated immune system, as we know, but generally we're going to see the immune system seemingly go towards that stimulated direction when candida is the infection because naturally we're going to have a deficiency of the immune system. So I agree, you'd better be taking them. Sage, when you came out like that firing. It's something that I don't think it makes sense not to include it in the diet when you're going down the road of this protocol.

Mason: And then of course we see such a flurry of other activity. We've already talked about Reishi mushroom and helping to tone the nervous system, tone the mind in terms of it in a [inaudible 01:24:48] tonic in the way the Daoist approach it. You see lots of physiological function and destressing the body so that the mind-body connection can then emerge and we can get a calmer state of mind, and we can get into a calmer state of being throughout the day which ties straight back in with our original intention, is remaining in that place where we can breathe deeply and we can ensure that we're staying in a healing space.

Mason: Then you go, we can go, even further with the medicinal mushrooms. The science is coming out more and more how we are hardwired for a lot of these compounds, with particular these fungal polysaccharides within the mushrooms and so as an inherent part of the way our immune system is involved. Again, you've got to throw your support behind using them.

Mason: Anyone want to throw in any other two cents about the usefulness of medicinal mushrooms, their immune modulating aspects? Because we've got in this intelligence. I remember relating to Chaga and Reishi in particular being ... and lion's mane, and turkey tail being these noble thought forms within the fungal system and somewhat understanding the psychology of these lower forms of fungus, just to put a hierarchy on it. Just take that with a grain of salt. Being able to somewhat enable the immune system just the way the mushrooms had had to adapt and evolve to not become infected by yeast themselves as they're growing through the environment, pass on that information to our bodies so we can, in fact, also not be broken down by these environmental yeasts. Any other little things either of you would like to throw in? Just interesting distinctions about why mushies might be useful?

Dan: I would probably just highlight the fact that I think medicinal mushrooms still get thought about as immune specific compounds. We have dandelion and burdock root, everyone thinks liver. And we have these different affiliations and associations with herbs. But I think it's important to-

Sage: [crosstalk 01:26:54].

Dan: Yeah, exactly. I think it's important to relate to them not only in an immunological kind of way, and think of them as endocrine modulators. And that's what you need, and that's going back to what we said earlier about resetting the nervous system so the healing can take place. Not only are you upgrading your immune system, it's really acting on that endocrine system to get you into a really fortified and pivotal kind of state where the candida can start coming down. You're acting on it immunologically but you got endocrine balance happening at the same time. So just get your mind in your herbs too and think about that in terms of the stages that you roll these things out, so it's like okay for the next week or two we're going really hard on the medicinal mushrooms for these reasons. Following that we're going to really go into the liver. I really like that with herbal medicine, particularly for folks who haven't used them before. To really get people's minds in their herbs. As trippy and spiritual as that sounds.

Mason: Not at all.

Dan: Yeah. Just, we grow up with pharmaceutical medicine, with western medicine, and it's sort of like you're sick, you go and visit the doctor, you take something. Your mind is out of that equation. You don't know how it's acting, all you're waiting for is to see if the result is there, and you get, "better." But with herbal medicines, I think it's really important to know what the herbs are doing, and to educate folks on that and roll that out in different stages so they know at what time they can expect symptoms to be felt and know when to proceed into other areas as well.

Dan: So, I mean, I don't know if I answered the question-

Mason: There was no question, just any additional thoughts. And I agree, I haven't gone so far into the pharmaceutical application. I mean I know practitioners have a hard time with fungus because they have such a wide array of antibacterials that they can be using, antibiotics that they can be using. Basically they just jump around and try and find the one that's right for a particular affliction. But they don't have many antifungals, and in fact candida albicans is becoming more and more resistant to the pharmaceutical antifungals that are recurring. And I think one of the areas the current research is going over the isolated pharmaceutical is inhibiting the tour? Of the tour pathways of the candida albicans which inhibits its ability to then proliferate. Again, it seems like it's going to be useful in a clinical setting and it's nice to hone in, but how much do you hone in before that treatment isn't going to be then unified with the rest of the treatment setting that's going to lead you down a path where you've created an environment where your body can do the regulation itself, without too much of an isolated drug-based effect.

Mason: So yeah I completely agree with everything you said. Sage?

Sage: Yeah one other thing there on the pharmaceutical side of things. Because life circumstances will happen where you just can't get around taking antibiotics. Things happen, this is our world we live in. Something to keep in mind and talk with your doctor about if that does come up is there's a supplement, not a supplement. A pharmaceutical, called nystatin, which is a statin drug but it also has very powerful antifungal properties. So many people see a lot of benefit from taking liquid nystatin at the same time as the antibiotics to keep the candida at bay, keep the fungal problems from [inaudible 01:30:21].

Mason: Yeah. That's common practice, right? Very interesting.

Sage: Nobody does it.

Mason: I've had a bunch of people who, or maybe it's because we're in Byron. I've had a bunch of people put in that, or I guess here we have an emergency-

Sage: Are people more aware of it there in Byron? About the nystatin?

Mason: I think so. I mean I've definitely heard-

Sage: [inaudible 01:30:40] nobody knows.

Mason: Yeah we've definitely had a lot of people here who have been put on it. I didn't realize it was a statin but an antifungal at the same time, along with the antibiotic. But yeah, at the same time we've got an emergency room here that actually acknowledges that Lyme disease exists. So. Very noble-

Sage: [inaudible 01:30:56] a bit moral.

Mason: Yeah, we're in a different world. When I went with my [inaudible 01:30:59], you know. My rash around my tick bite, it was like, oh yeah, that's Lyme. I was like, oh my god. I didn't even have to fight with you around that?

Mason: But so, anything else Sage you wanted to add around medicinal mushrooms or are you feeling sweet on that topic?

Sage: They're fabulous, they're magical even though they're not psychedelic, and I love them very much.

Mason: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Mason: They're psychedelic for the immune system, and the immune system starts singing when all of a sudden you get some. Again, it's the unification of the immune system. And what I like about medicinal mushrooms is where we've really been talking about this treatment-setting and this treatment protocol where we're healing ourselves through dietary changes. Maybe a time on ketogenesis. Maybe a time on the substances that remove the biofilm, the Serrapeptase, the MSM, we're taking binders in a treatment setting to ensure that we're taking out that metabolic waste and that, ensuring that we don't have a herbs reaction. Too much of a die-off detox vacation reaction which can definitely happen, and if that's happening to you? Back off. Go a little bit slower, right?

Mason: That's like, everyone goes, oh my gosh do I always have to Winston Churchill it? Where it's like if you're going through hell keep going? That's probably not the most sustainable way to do it, unless you maybe ... You're single. Your full-time job is your health. You don't have kids. Something like. Then absolutely go through it, you've got time to go and do your water fasting and tune into it and all that kind of stuff. But otherwise? Give yourself permission to back off and really think, what are the pillars?

Mason: Especially dietarily, especially some of that eliminating of those food groups and those grains and those sugars that are ... And possibly the glutenous grains, I think we're all in agreeance that in that healing period that that's not going to be useful. And at the same time you start bringing in the Pau D'arcos, the mushies, some of these supplements, liver supporting with the Schizandra. Just make sure if you're really dying off hard, maybe back off a little bit from those mushrooms. Just lower the dose, just a little bit, but especially those like the Serrapeptase and those substances that are going to be breaking down your biofilm. But at the same time, with a nice balanced approach, your body should have what it takes to remove that as you go along.

Mason: So what I was saying there is what I like about the medicinal mushrooms and many of the things we're talking about especially distinction around diet, is it gets to a point where you get your symptoms under control, and you're no longer feeling drunk from the candida off-gassing, you're not feeling those mood swings, you're not as immunologically susceptible to little, like, the smallest little cold and so on and so forth. And you go, wow I'm actually getting some traction here, and you start to then move in towards embodying a lot of these principles that you've learned through your healing journey, but then go to more of a maintenance. You know, how do I design my lifestyle and my personal culture so that this isn't going to come up again once you've identified that there's a possible susceptibility there.

Mason: So in this phase, Sage, what do you feel are the pillars? What would you be particularly tonifying to ensure that that doesn't happen again?

Sage: Yeah, I think once you've had a history of real strong candida situation, you probably will not be able to have a future of having the same levels of carbohydrate consumption and sugar consumption and a fruit consumption as somebody who hadn't. It does seem to be, you're kind of at-risk of this forever. Maybe Dan can provide some more insights into why and how you can maybe get around that. But you're always going to be a little bit more vulnerable to it than the average person.

Sage: And so, I think you always want to keep these mushrooms as a part of your life, for their adaptogenic properties, for their immune enhancing properties, for their antiinflammatory properties, you know. So many benefits. And they're going to be keeping the candida at bay, so you want to keep your carbohydrate consumption within a reasonable range. Stay away from really starchy things. If you're going to be having a gluten-free bread, don't be having one that's made of corn flour and oat flour and potato flour that you're just going to be skyrocketing your blood sugar.

Mason: Thanks for bringing that up. We have rice, potato, tapioca, [inaudible 01:35:18], I think they're the big ones. We don't get much corn but yeah, I really appreciate you bringing that up because I still think we're getting a new wave of people entering into the health scene and going gluten free, and not realizing the extent of what these gluten-free grains and these flours, just the impact they're having on your glycemic load and feeding these things like bacterial overgrowth and fungal overgrowth.

Sage: Yeah, even William Davis, who is a medical doctor, he wrote one of the first big books back in the 2000s that really blew up on bringing awareness that needs to be for people to be gluten free. And that's the time that it really took off.

Mason: Wheat Belly?

Sage: Wheat Belly, that's it, right, I was misplacing the name. Wheat Belly, yes. He even says most gluten-free products are worse for you than the gluten products because of these high glycemic, starchy compounds in them. So beware of that, because those can be really sneaky. You might think oh, this is great, it's gluten free; how wonderful and magical, I can eat toast again. Be careful. Be careful. There's one gluten-free bread made here in California that doesn't have any of those, it's primarily just quinoa and millet and that in moderation I do really well with.

Mason: Ours here is, I think widely Spring Wellness, I think is the brand.

Sage: A-ha. Here, for those people in the US, it's Grindstone Bakery, they make a really nice one.

Sage: And so, kind of the long term that I found myself in dietary wise is cyclical ketosis combined with some intermittent fasting to stimulate the autophagy and the anti-aging benefits and the hormonal benefits that that brings along. And then you just want to keep, as I said, these mushrooms in your life and have some Pau D'arco every now and then when you feel called towards it, and make sure you're food combining in a way that doesn't cause digestive disturbance, and gas and bloating because if you do that's probably setting up a breeding ground for some of these bad bacteria and fungi to try to take over again; you don't want to give them that entry.

Sage: And you've got to figure out for you personally, what is the level of fruit and carbohydrate consumption that you can handle. And as you progressively heal over the years that may grow a little bit, as your metabolism kind of comes back to where it originally might've been. Be mindful of that, because a lot of people say okay I dealt with the candida, now I can have as many dates and berries and pineapple and papaya and whatever and just go wild. But you can't. You can't do that, you're going to end up back in a bad situation.

Mason: Yeah, 40 bananas a day, eh?

Sage: Oh my gosh.

Mason: Dan-

Sage: I remember right when I was in like, early stage candida recovery, I met a guy and he was trying to tell me, yeah yeah. Fruitarianism. You just have to eat more fruits, your body adapts to knowing what to do with it.

Sage: You've got to be kidding me. Come on.

Mason: Dude, I think you definitely see the [inaudible 01:38:24] and we get into the dietary conversation. Maybe we'll have another podcast around dietary fads and appropriateness. Because you're going to find with all of these diets, there's going to be a particular constitution or a particular energetic of an illness or an overgrowth that's going, maybe that person ... it's hard to believe in terms of a candida infection. But maybe one person might get a little bit of benefit just through the stripping that they're going to get through all that fruit.

Mason: And we're talking about a phenomena, the fruitarian, 80/10/10, 40 bananas a day that was like, probably really hot 10 years ago? I think we've all-

Sage: Thank goodness that kind of moved away.

Mason: Yeah. I think that kind of the current rendition in terms of maybe not in terms of the fanaticism at the top of the dietary hierarchy but definitely in terms of a lot of follows. We see the medical medium probably being the closest with that these days, in terms of just like, “Well I don't know much about herbalism; I don't know really anything about candida other than what the leader of this diet that I follow has said about it, but what I know is if you follow this diet, you'll heal it. Oh, no, no, no what is it? Candida? No problem,” is what you're going to find.

Mason: In the kind of diet like that, yeah. It's got great things and great distinctions of course, not pooh-poohing it. But if you, with any of these treatments, if you just get a really wide blanket over anything you're going to find, especially in this instance where there's women with extreme deficiencies and extreme dampness, and then immune deficiency. IF you start putting on a lot of cold, wet foods that ... and a lot, even like ... foods like when people go to TCM. I'm a big fan of celery but it's actually quite heating in terms of its energetics? You're actually going to start getting in there and aggravating the damp heat of candida when it's done in excess.

Mason: So everyone needs to just kind of like take everything with a grain of salt, find your own path and yeah. Just thought I'd throw that in there. Dan, at that stage when you're transitioning. What are some of your key factors in what you like looking at, and getting ... What did you get onto? What did you get other people onto?

Dan: I think once people have gotten over the initial hurdle, and they're back online, getting them to form a new relationship with their body is super, super key. And to identify where they're vulnerable and where the threats are coming in. I always say to folks, stress paralyzes the immune response. Period. It's that simple, stress paralyzes your immune response. Getting people to really identify where the stresses of their lives are coming in, whether it's people, whether it's the job, whether it's environmental, whether it's financial. You have to take appropriate lifestyle measures. You can throw antifungal herbs at yourself until the cows come home, but if you don't nail those things and those foundations, and the dietary stuff like you guys were saying, you're limiting the amount of benefits you're going to get long term. You can get immediate benefits, you can feel better for about a week, but you really want to fortify a new lifestyle where, as I say, you know immediately when you can recognize where you're leaking Jing and where the stress is starting to impact your immune system and you go, aha; I can feel that white blood cell drop.

Dan: Getting folks to recognize that, whereas maybe in times gone by they might just sort of mull over that with caffeine or sugar, you know? And they might've felt it but not known what to do with it. Now when you feel that again that means you need to pull back on this, and you probably need to hit this, this, this, and this to bring yourself back into balance.

Dan: So it sounds super simple, but just identifying where those stressors are coming in and knowing that it's going to have a very immunological weakening.

Mason: Yeah and I definitely think it's worth acknowledging lifestyle wise that you're undergoing a transition. I know it can be quite isolating if you do have a very gnarly candida infection and it's like, depending on where you came from it might be all of a sudden you're taken out from being able to go eat out, from the usage of alcohol with the grains that are in alcohol very much feeding candida, so on and so forth.

Mason: And so, really ensuring that you're psychologically set up and that you're finding ways to go out and celebrate life and be with your friends that aren't revolving around aggravators? And then once you've ... But you know, really ensuring that you don't isolate yourself, and ensuring that you don't get judgy about what other people are doing. My god, just do not by any means. Let it happen by osmosis, if you care about someone let the results speak for themselves, but I definitely wouldn't preach any of this to anyone once you've suddenly become enlightened to how sugar feeds candida.

Mason: And at the same time when you're transitioning back into your life and you're starting possibly really going, right. Socializing a little bit more. As Sage was saying, over a few years you might feel you've become a little more robust at a metabolic level when it comes to fruit and you can take as much as you would've normally been able to pre-candida. You're going to be able to do that to an extent with other areas of life that we associate with going out, and like really celebrating and enjoying ourselves and eating out. But just keep a check on yourself. You know? I would make sure you don't lose yourself in that energy so you to and undo all your good work? But at the same time really acknowledge, finding ways that you can keep that up and keep on doing that in a way that isn't lame. I know it can be lame for someone saying oh, just take kombucha to a party. It's like, oh shut up. Just ... I think that's a huge part of it.

Mason: Ongoingly, as well, I'll definitely just throw my support behind, for lack of another word, healed, ensuring that you don't slip into excessive tendencies when it comes to the consumption of grain, gluten. You might feel that it's better to leave these out of your diet. If you're like, no I kind of like ... I'm going to include them, really look at appropriate usage, with alcohol as well. Bring a lot of intention to the way you do it and just keep on reading the way your body relates and reacts to these substances so that you can create a very beautiful integrated culture for you and your lifestyle that is allowing you to, in a way, have your cake and eat it to. But be slow and methodical in that process, and don't ignore the fact just because it's inconvenient, that you have a tendency towards candida infection, because that will bite your 80-year-old, 90-year-old self on the ass.

Mason: But at the same time, don't throw out this celebratory party animal at the same time. Because then you'll be absolutely taking the drive out of your 80-, 90-year-old self.

Mason: I definitely like the inclusion, as Sage said, like appropriately bringing Pau D'arco here, there, when you feel like it. I like including medicinal mushrooms on rotation in the diet. When I get to that point, if you've had a tendency towards, especially if you have a tendency towards phlegmy-ness and dampness within the body? I like Chi tonics and spleen tonics to keep up that digestive potency from a tonic herb perspective. So herbs like astragalus, or is it as-TRAG-alus, Sage?

Sage: It's as-TRAG-alus here, but I don't know how you guys do it there, I'm still learning-

Dan: We switch, we go back and forth.

Mason: We switch. [crosstalk 01:45:57].

Mason: Yeah. So the identity crisis when it comes to pronouncing astragalus, as-TRAG-alus. But beautiful herb for continuing to tone the spleen Chi, to just ensure that we are maintaining proper digestive health and governing of digestive health, along with white atractylodes, [inaudible 01:46:16], even a little bit of licorice is going to be doing some good stuff in there, ginseng. These are all wonderful Chi herbs that I see as wonderful components in upkeeping our general health. Schizandra to an extent falls in that category, but I'd still be looking at astragalus, [inaudible 01:46:36], white atractylodes just here and there. Keep it up, make sure it's-

Sage: And did you incorporate Poria in there as well Mason?

Mason: Oh man, yeah. Poria I can't believe we didn't bring up and I can't believe I haven't got it as a herb on its own. Talk about a mushroom that's got a branding problem. Somehow, in Daoist and even through TCM theory and herbalism, every single longevity formula has Poria in it. Not Reishi, like nearly every longevity formula has got this incredible immunological mushroom, Poria? Have you seen the pictures of me harvesting that thing? It was 20 kilos.

Sage: I did see it. Incredible.

Mason: Dude. We'll get a picture down in the notes everyone but this mushroom, growing on wild pine is this huge mound that grows under the soil. Yeah it's 20 kilos and then when you dry it, it becomes kind of like a gyprock? You know ... What is it you pick up the white gyprock-y kind of thing at the beach, and you give it to the birds to nibble on and-

Dan: Cuttlefish.

Mason: Cuttlefish, yeah. It's kind of like that kind of texture as well. But as a herb, it's probably the primary Chi/spleen-toning medicinal mushroom that's ... When you're dealing with candida of course a wet, damp hot environment is where a yeast infection is going to grow, so you have a high amount of inflammation. That's why all the while we're talking about things like Serrapeptase, medicinal mushrooms, that are taking down these chronic levels of inflammation right?

Mason: Then at the same time, Poria is going in and moving Chi. Like in instances of edema you see it being very effective. You see it being very effective at moving the puddle of water Chi sitting beneath the heart and dampening the fire of the heart, and moving that on. And then helping to tone the kidney's abilities to transform water Chi, and remember how to move that through the body.

Mason: I'm so glad you brought that up. I slipped it into the Mason's Mushrooms because I just wanted everyone to be on it.

Sage: You didn't have that as an individual herb as well?

Mason: No. I can't believe I don't, but that's what I mean. It's got a branding problem. So I will, I'm working on that. You know what it's like, you think it's just a matter of like, adding a product to the range and it's just like this huge process, and this huge educating process. And there also needs to be a subtle activation of something when I know it's time? And it's definitely getting there, to be time. It's definitely a huge push I feel in terms of educating around Chi tonics that's coming from our perspective within SuperFeast? And definitely with Poria.

Mason: But I'm always just stoked when people are having Mason's Mushrooms and they've got Poria in there, doing that thing. I actually think it's one of the more wonderful mushrooms for treating and helping with candida and basically supporting that spleen function. So thank you very much for bringing that up, I'm really, really glad-

Dan: If I could just add in there guys, as well as for the listeners. What Mason was talking about with spleen Chi, a lot of people obviously will already know. But I think what a good way to explain spleen Chi, I find, is that when you feel like that has really been augmented it's like your body almost fights gravity better. Your stature, your muscles, everything sits up so much stronger and so much better. And if you have a pathogenic load, everything wants to droop and go with gravity and fall. But when your spleen Chi is really rocking, it's like the opposite happens. Your muscles sit up better. Your posture's better. Your outlook is better. You feel like you're fighting gravity better. That's a really important distinction I think to ...

Dan: I remember feeling that for the first time years ago, with high amounts of astragalus when it was appropriate. And reigniting that and going, oh wow. That's what that feels like again.

Mason: Feeling upright Chi again. I mean Chi's definitely governing that up/down, in/out controlling the heat, controlling the movements of liquid within the body. It's a wonderful thing, and a definite one in terms of maintenance, I'm definitely leaning more and more towards Chi tonics myself with [inaudible 01:50:37], and it's also nice to see that the Chi does, you see a crossover a lot of the time with Chi tonics being medicinal mushrooms and doing their own thing from an immunological level to upkeep that vitality.

Mason: And at the same time, all these things you were talking about, like ensuring that we're not becoming sodden and weighed down by all this infection and all this calcification, absolutely integral. Great to have the Jing there, so we don't have to get to the exhausted state where we can't actually have, we are not actually able to use the Chi from our breath and our food, the Gu Chi, and as well from our water. And then, you know. We can't help but then actually rock it with our lifestyle.

Mason: The other thing I just make sure I want to tell everyone is watch your poo. Look at your poo, because it can be quite easy to get into a justification and not acknowledge the fact that you might be constipated, and we're definitely going to have to look at that. And this is going back to the beginning of the treatment, but especially the aftermath when you're really ensuring that you're staying in a nice healthy place. You want nice healthy solid, nice coloration, maybe a brownish hue in the poo. And as well, just because when you get into that, "all right I'm in a nourishing, spleen diet. Warming foods, no soupy kind of foods." You want to find that balance between that and your veggies, the appropriate amount of easily digestible raw greens or a small amount of raw foods are going to pack, if it's appropriate for you. Because sometimes people can lean too much on that TCM/spleen/cook everything into oblivion, which I like for certain meats, stews, and that kind of thing. I like slow-cooking meats, I think the spleen absolutely drinks it up, and it's really easy to make blood from it.

Mason: But you can watch your poo and if it begins to go sloppy, it's time to bring a little bit more roughages and rethink the way you're approaChing it.

Mason: And also, the reason I'm liking these binders and cleaning up the diet, because often people are going, you know, I poo. I poo regularly. But what we don't realize that there are these stuck pockets up through the colon. Just being able to, I don't know how you guys go about identifying. Colonoscopy is kind of like one of these things that just identifies it like that. But I don't love shoving things in the body if we don't have to. So I definitely like just bringing in the distinction of not bringing processed foods into the diet that are going to accumulate in these little pockets within the body. I like binders for this reason, I love clays going in and doing this. What Dan was talking about in the morning, if you're going in with your clay maybe add that little bit of Chia in there.

Mason: Other fire, what was the other fire you were talking about? You didn't say [crosstalk 01:53:19].

Dan: Slippery elm.

Mason: Oh you did slippery elm as well. These basic beautiful soothers. It's going to be a great long term aid to you in ensuring. And then keep on watChing your poo. Is it going sloppy? Is it going hard? Are you constipated? All right let's look at our diet and our lifestyle and make some tweaks. So stay slippery and adaptable with that as well, and then just continue to embody these principles of your culture, and your lifestyle that you're going to be really proud to pass on to your community, to your Children. Because that's ultimately where it's at.

Mason: Sage, do you have any last thoughts on anything?

Dan: No, that was really wonderful. It was a pleasure speaking with both you guys, thank you for having me on with you.

Mason: Yeah thanks so much, bro. Dan, have you got any wrap-up thoughts?

Dan: One, just one quick thing I failed to mention at the start when we were talking about testing. One that I do run and I'm quite a big fan of is the Organic Acids Test, which is relatively new. Or the OAT test, O-A-T. That actually has a section where you can test fungal metabolites in the urine, so it's a urine sample that you send to a lab, and you get a wealth of information about all different types of areas of the body. Neurotransmitters, B-vitamin absorption, and what not. But one specific area is fungal metabolites, and sometimes the gut test can miss them, or sometimes the candida just isn't in the gut, it's in the respiratory system or it's topical. Jock itch or cradle cap. It's on the skin. So that test is really, really good.

Dan: Sometimes if you've got the opportunity to do that at the start of seeing someone and to get a baseline of those metabolites, and then follow that up a month on or whatever to check if that's now in check. Because I've seen what happens in the past is that candida gets blamed for something and there is candida there, but it is actually more of a bacterial issue, more of a dysbiosis condition. So you can knock the candida back but the person is still symptomatic. The candida might have been playing a bit of the role there, but it's more likely bacterial overgrowth in the small or large intestine or something else.

Dan: So Organic Acids Test, huge fan of it. And that's one I often run in the clinic here.

Mason: Wonderful. So it's like the tagline is now, "Check your wee; we'll see if we can heal you functionally. Dan Sipple, Functional Naturopath."

Dan: Whoa.

Mason: And you can use that, that's free.

Dan: Thank you, right?

Mason: And thank you so much, boys, for coming on and sharing your knowledge, giving your time. I know everyone listening to this is really appreciating such a comprehensive and multidimensional look at candida and how to go about really getting their body into a state where it's no longer prevalent. So have a beautiful, beautiful day guys, and I can't wait to jump back on with you next time.

Sage: Thank you, brother.

Dan: Honored.

Apr 01, 2019
#23 Wild Woman Way with Susun Weed
01:22:02

Today Tahnee chats to Susun Weed, the grandmother of herbs. Susun is a true wise, wild elder, a wonderful story-teller and exposes women to ideas outside of the mainstream. Susun attended the School of Life, and is passionate about everything to do with women, health and herbs. Tahnee and Susun discuss standing in your power regarding your reproductive rights, feminism versus being female and how there are no guarantees in life - we just have to do the best that we can. The ladies chat about empowering women to get back to their intuitive wisdom, via the ancient botanical system. You guys are going to love this one!

 

You will hear about:

  • Susun's view on lying to your health care practitioner about your last moon cycle, to ensure your unborn baby is not induced!
  • The true history of blue for boys, pink for girls (who knew?!)
  • How Susun makes herbal infusions
  • How potent nettle can be for women
  • How all minerals are not created equal
  • How comfrey can help prevent pregnancy stretch marks
  • Mammograms and how they may not be the best measure for breast cancer
  • Phytoestrogens versus phytosterols
  • How standardisation of herbs is detrimental to the botanicals properties
  • Bio-individuality means herbs can have different effects on us

 

Who is Susun Weed?

Susun S. Weed, a green witch and wise woman, is an extraordinary teacher with a joyous spirit, a powerful presence, and an encyclopedic knowledge of herbs and health. She is the voice of the Wise Woman Way, where common weeds, simple ceremony, and compassionate listening support and nourish health/wholeness/holiness. She has opened hearts to the magic and medicine of the green nations for five decades. Ms. Weed's five herbal medicine books focus on women's health topics including menopause, childbearing, and breast health. Visit her site www.susunweed.com for information on her workshops, apprenticeships, correspondence courses and more! Go to: www.wisewomanmentor.com for Susun’s free herbal ezine and also mentorship offerings for those who want to go deeper.

 

Resources

Susun Weed books
Susun Weed website
Susun Weed Instagram
Juliette de Baïracli Levy
SuperFeast Stance on Standardisation

 

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Mar 26, 2019
#22 Ashwagandha with Sage Dammers
36:23

Today, Sage Dammers (tonic herbalist and master chocolatier) and Mason cover everything you need to know about the newest addition to the SuperFeast apothecary, ashwagandha! The guys dive deep into the lore and traditions behind this Ayurvedic herb. The countless benefits of this calming adaptogen range from dialling down the stress response, nourishing the nervous system, balancing hormones and providing reproductive system support. And plenty more. A botanical which is an aphrodisiac, that's not overly stimulating, that is also a nervine?! What! A! Herb!

 

Ashwagandha really is the herb for modern times - Sage Dammers

 

 
In today's episode, you will hear about:
  • Up to 15 clinical applications have been thoroughly researched for ashwagandha
  • Traditionally a 'muscle, marrow and semen' builder and supporter
  • Regrows damaged synapses in the brain from heavy metal toxicity
  • Provides the sexual energy and vigour of a horse 
  • The ultimate rejuvenating herb for the elderly, kids and everyone in between
  • Small doses are incredibly effective, more is not always better
  • Stimulates blood production in the body, may be good for vegetarians / vegans who may need blood building support
  • Need to build blood? Try SuperFeast Deer Antler and SuperFeast Ashwagandha 
  • When starting with ashwagandha, if you are in a rebuilding stage, give it time to rebuild. Then the rejuvenating effect will kick in
  • Slightly heating and drying herb and helps to move water Qi by supporting spleen function
  • Positive effect on male fertility via the decrease in stress and increase in adaptability (results in healthier sperm and hormone levels)
  • A cortisol-dependant state can be positively balanced by ashwagandha 
  • Helps to balance blood sugar
  • Also a powerful fertility enhancer for women via balancing of hormones

 

Who is Sage Dammers?

Fueled by a passionate desire to help people live the ultimate life and create a better world, Sage studied raw and superfood nutrition and traditional herbal systems, especially Taoist tonic herbalism. He has worked with and trained under the world’s leading master herbalists and nutrition and longevity experts in Costa Rica, Australia, Bali, China, and America.

Sage has developed products internationally and given lectures on peak performance nutrition in Australia, Bali, America, and France. His years of experience in this unique arena have allowed him to cultivate an unparalleled combination of cutting edge nutritional and culinary expertise. Sage has started tonic elixir bars in 5 star luxury hotels in Paris and Sydney serving longevity elixirs disguised as gourmet treats, introducing the novel concept of healthy indulgences to the market of world travelers.

 

Resources

Addictive Wellness
SuperFeast Ashwagandha 
SuperFeast Deer Antler
addictivewellness Instagram
Addictive Wellness Choccies on Amazon

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Mar 16, 2019
#21 Period Repair with Lara Briden
41:36

In today's Women Series episode, Tahnee chats with Dr. Lara Briden who is on a mission to empower women to reclaim their menstrual cycles. Dr. Lara refers to women's monthly cycles as their monthly report card and how ovulation is a vital sign of health. The ladies discuss how ovulation is so much more than just making a baby. Even though PMS and infertility are normalised in the Western world, Dr. Lara breaks it down that these symptoms are not healthy nor necessary. Hormonal birth control options are discussed and the ladies dive into the difference between PCOS and hypothalamic amenorrhea. To help empower women gaining confidence and knowledge about their cycles Dr. Lara shares methods to track ovulation and tips on dietary lifestyles to feel vital and healthy as a woman.

 

The ladies discuss:

  • Without ovulation, there is technically no cycle
  • PCOS sufferers often experience anovulatory cycles (a bleed, without ovulation)
  • Did you know a regular cycle occurs every 21-35 days?
  • Tips to track ovulation include cervical mucous and basal body temperatures
  • Fertile mucous looks like raw egg-white and is a sign of estrogen
  • When you are on the Pill, you will not produce fertile mucous
  • A blood test looking at progesterone is risky as progesterone fluctuates throughout the cycle
  • The idea that the Pill supports fertility is a myth; it shrinks the ovaries and may bring on menopause earlier
  • Hormonal birth control essentially induces a menopausal state
  • It takes 12 years (TWELVE!) for a female's hormonal systems to fully mature
  • Younger girls can often successfully treat period issues with anti-inflammatory foods and being dairy-free
  • How a vegan diet can pose severe challenges for women's hormone health

 

Who is Dr. Lara Briden?

Dr. Lara Briden is a naturopathic doctor and the period revolutionary—leading the change to better periods. Informed by a strong science background and more than twenty years with patients, Lara is a passionate communicator about women's health and alternatives to hormonal birth control. Her book Period Repair Manual is a manifesto of natural treatment for better hormones and better periods and provides practical solutions using nutrition, supplements, and natural hormones. Now in its second edition, the book has been an underground sensation and has worked to quietly change the lives of tens of thousands of women.
 
Resources

Dr. Lara's book - The Period Repair Manual
Dr. Lara's website
Dr. Lara's Instagram
The Right Way to Test Progesterone
Danish study looking at the Pill and depression

 

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Mar 06, 2019
#20 Pregnancy Health with Tahnee McCrossin
02:00:05

The mammoth episode many of you have been waiting for. This is part 2 of our childbearing series, and the one where Tahnee and myself dive deep into the practices, philosophy, diet, herbalism and more that went into creating the year in which Tahnee was childbearing little Aiya. This podcast was recorded during the first week of the bubba's life, so the sharing experience of the birth is fresh; something Tahnee was wishing to be able to infuse into this intimate sharing of how she chose to approach nourishing her body during pregnancy.

Here’s briefly what we cover in the episode plus some more extensive notes than usual from Tahnee for those who are on their own pregnancy journey:

 

  • Pregnancy + Home Birth Plans
  • How did I know?
  • We found out at four weeks, basically I was very aware that something was different in my body!! We’d both felt the baby come in November, and exactly three months later we were pregnant, and I’ve heard that’s common
  • Our Pregnancy diet
  • We don’t follow a dietary plan, more intuitive
  •  Generally vegetarian, though we do include meat in our diet, probably once or twice a week? fish, buffalo, occasionally organic chicken and beef, other wild meats (rabbit, goat, boar), broths/stocks
  • More mindful of eating a variety of foods and definitely eat more quantity, smaller meals, regularly
  • Organic and local as much as possible - farmers market and Santos/Source keep us fed
  • Fridge/freezer is stocked
  • Wild foods, high mineral content
  • Fermented foods

Best supplements during pregnancy

  •   I didn’t take a lot of vitamins or anything like that, apart from lipsomal vitamin C
  • Lots of herbs, mostly tonics, plus raspberry leaf and nettle, slippery elm occasionally, yellow dock, dandelion, milk thistle, ginger
  • Lots of probiotics
  • Iodine until I saturated
  • Silica
  • Personally most concerned about losing minerals as bubbas drain mamas (for every baby a tooth, is an old saying!) so been keeping up the minerals
  • Megahydrate
  • Estroblock when we had it, just one cap per day of the pro
  • Clays and charcoal (you might’ve heard of pica - desire to eat clays - common in pregnant women)
  • DHA, EFA: fish oil, also raw seafood, fish and oysters
  • Sea minerals

The best tonic herbs and medicinal mushrooms during pregnancy

  • Best suggestion is reishi, but I took everything in the SuperFeast range at various stages, kidney jing herbs lately (postpartum) to heal and boost recovery

Best herbs during pregnancy

  • Avoid steroidal herbs, emmenagogues
  • Check out Susun Weed’s book and Aviva Romm

Symptoms of pregnancy

  • Been lucky, apart from tiredness and needing to eat a lot more, I’ve had very little to complain about. Have felt body change, but that’s been fine, I’ve enjoyed being pregnant. Heartburn when my uterus got really big (apparently babies with lots of hair give their mamas heartburn…), but that stopped when baby dropped, ‘growing pains’ around my ribs (like when I was a kid), car sickness if I had an empty belly

Pregnancy cravings / changes

  • Started eating meat again, pretty mindfully
  • Needed lots of simple carbs in the first trimester, regularly. Like, every two hours. Bilbo Baggins style - breakfast, second breakfast, elevenses, lunch, afternoons I wasn’t a hungry, but at least one snack and then dinner. And often needed to eat in the middle of the night. So I did. 😃
  • Waking up starving - that’s new for me!
  • Generally more calories
  • Haven’t put on much weight, I don’t think, except for boobs and belly and in third trimester around my bum and hips. I haven’t weighed myself

Exercise during pregnancy

  • Yoga - only consideration, IMO, is how the mother feels and to listen to her body - if you’re a regular yogi, you will be less flexible in certain areas, this is OK, it’s not about extreme ROM it’s about being mindful about what needs support during the transitions — for me, pecs (chest - boobs!!) and lower traps, rhomboids, hip flexors, quads, glutes and lateral body (QL and thoracolumbar fascia) - I have avoided a lot of ‘hip openers, they made my pelvis feel unstable (deep hip flexion, ext rotation, e.g. pigeon), though I’ve loved square…
  • Used a lot of props, have not gone deep but have stayed in poses for a long time. Early pregnancy I wanted to be very active, so preferred more active, mobile classes, teaching ashtanga etc lots of Embodied Flow with Tara Judelle on YogaGlo.
  • WALK! I think this is the best thing you can do - I TRY and walk daily (an hour, in nature, but that’s changed as I’ve gotten bigger) - most ‘traditional’ women walk on average 5 kms per during their pregnancies, so I tried to do about an hour a day…that’s dropped off lately, as I get crazy contractions when I walk
  • Swimming - though mostly just a dip
  • Stay active - most important, I think

Lots of additional pregnancy tips

  • Vit D on boobs, belly as much as possible = naked sun time
  • Saunas in winter (short, until I felt too hot, not forced), hot tub
  • Massage, moxa
  • Yoga nidra

Home birth prep and planning

  • Really just made sense to me, was only option as far as I was concerned. I did not want to be travelling during labour or after birth
  • Super lucky to have access to the midwives program, through the Byron hospital
  • Two experienced midwives and one student attended birth, Daddy delivered
  • Birth pool hire - Birth Afloat (small heated pool)
  • Spring water - Wild Oasis (filled and added Crystal Energy and sea salt)
  • Placenta encapsulation

Other tips - buy lots of old towels from op shop!!!
Herbs for post-birth - jing herbs (cordyceps, deer antler, eucommia bark), reishi, lion’s mane, placenta, daily tonic tea: schizandra, raspberry leaf, nettle, vanilla, rhemmania, chaga.

Book Resources

  • Ina May Gaskin: Spiritual Midwifery, Ina May’s Guide to Childbirth, Ina May’s Guide to Breastfeeding
  • Aviva Romm: Natural Pregnancy
  • Sarah Buckley - not so much her book, but her interview with Daniel Vitalis about hormone cascades was awesome, ReWild Yourself podcast
  • Susun Weed: Wise Women’s Herbal for the Childbearing Year, and her blog
  • Jeannie Pavarti Baker - all her books
  • Tami Lynn Kent: Wild Feminine, Mouthing from Your Centre
  • Jane Hardwick Collings: Ten Moons
  • Didn’t get to read this, but it looks good, Jenny Blyth: Down to Earth Birth
  • Penny Simkin: Pregnancy, Childbirth and the Newborn
  • Roy Dittmann: Brighton Bab
  • The Holistic Stages of Birth

 

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Feb 26, 2019
#19 Female Hormones with Dr Carrie Jones
01:27:46

In today's Women Series episode, Tahnee dives deep into listening to your body's innate wisdom, with Dr Carrie Jones. Dr Carrie is the medical director of the DUTCH, which is a relatively new analytic to test hormones and safe to say it greatly differs from the traditional Western blood-test approach. The ladies discuss the HPA axis and how the thyroid is best tested. Adrenal fatigue is explored and the discussion around slowing down and not being a master of all the things, all the time, is covered. Keto and veganism lifestyles are discussed. This is a beautiful conversation around a woman's wellbeing and how it is a complex and dancing conversation between all the organ systems and hormones. You don't want to miss this one!

 

The ladies discuss:

  • Blood tests show that moment in time; blood doesn't present what each constituent piece is doing, where it's going, or how the body is interacting with it
  • Accurately testing cortisol via blood, is challenging
  • DUTCH show the metabolites, which present how each hormone was processed
  • The ideal Western standard range for blood test data is very arbitrary
  • A slow thyroid slows down everything - hair, nails, metabolism, cortisol
  • Thyroid testing is best via blood
  • Cortisol and melatonin and sort of the like the sun and the moon, like Yin and Yang
  • Circadian rhythm irregularities (e.g. poor sleep) will effect all our rhythms, our female cycle included 
  • We love routine and structure, honour the body by having positive sleep hygiene practices and routine meal time. Basics are key
  • Why keto and intermittent fasting might not be for you
  • How symptoms easily become the normal, but feeling anxious, feeling tired all the time, are not the sign of health
  • How "adrenal fatigue" is the body's way of saying slow down
  • Quality truely is key when it comes to supplements 
  • How veganism has the tendency to deplete a woman's systems
  • What's leptin resistance? 
  • The physiology behind polycystic ovarian syndrome
  • Biologically speaking, survival is the priority, reproduction is not. Hence why stress can play havoc with a women's cycle
  • Libido is a strong sign of robust health, low libido is an indicator there is imbalance
  • Why informed decision-making, regarding the Pill is critical
  • Why menopause symptoms can differ so significantly between women

Who is Dr. Carrie Jones?

 

Dr. Carrie Jones (ND, MPH) is an internationally recognized speaker, consultant, and educator on the topic of women’s health and hormones. She graduated from the National University of Natural Medicine, School of Naturopathic Medicine in Oregon, where she also completed her two year residency in women’s health, hormones and endocrinology. Later she graduated from Grand Canyon University’s Master of Public Health program with a goal of doing more international education. She was adjunct faculty for many years teaching gynaecology and advanced endocrinology/fertility and has been the Medical Director for two large integrative clinics in Portland. She is the Medical Director for Precision Analytical, Inc, creators of the DUTCH hormone test.

 

Resources

DUTCH test
Chi Nei Tsang
Reishi the Shen tonic
Michael Pollan
1700s Book with boriginal fat, sleep like seals, liking sugar 
Gerson Therapy 
Dr Carrie Jones Instagram
Dr Carrie Jones Website
Thera Health

 

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Feb 21, 2019
#18 Autoimmunity and Medicinal Mushrooms with Dan Sipple
01:31:38

Autoimmunity (AI). You've heard it, but what is it? Today Mason is joined by SuperFeast fave naturopath, Dan Sipple to explore the beast that is autoimmunity and what factors play a role in autoimmune conditions. Perhaps the Western definition of AI is too cut and dry; the guys discuss the Eastern approaches and how the gut environment plays a key role (we've got two gut health podcasts Part One and Part Two, if you want to brush up on your gut health). This episode dives deeply into the ancient Daoism behind AI patterns and which tonic herbs and medicinal mushrooms can help support the body during these times. If you're afflicted with an AI condition, this episode is for you.

 

"Autoimmunity is when the body is seemingly attacking itself" - Mason Taylor

The guys discuss:

  • Suppression of autoimmune issues leads to significant illness later on
  • Treatment of autoimmunity from the Taoist perspective
  • Leaky gut (intestinal permeability) causes a barrage against your immune system - a significant initiating factor of AI
  • Pleghm, edema, heat toxicity, dampness, all AI symptoms; the TCM patterns 
  • According to TCM, upright Qi is vital for immunity (astragalus for the win)
  • Yersinia enterocolitica
  • SuperFeast Chaga, Reishi and Astragalus, the top there immunity herbs
  • The tightening / tenseness within the body is exacerbating AI symptoms; must release the tension
  • There are hard coded AI genes, BUT environment / diet / movement / community / purpose / stress all affect their expression
  • Cortisol Awakening Response (CAR) in the morning, helps determine the degree of autoimmune cells tagged in the thymus gland for destruction by your immune system. So if your CAR is flat lined (from smashing coffees, burning the candle at both ends, constant fight or flight / Yang state), cortisol production is low and you're more prone to unchecked destructive inflammation
  • The traditional Western belief that high Th1 causes AI, is no longer relevant
  • Those with AI - do not put chemicals on the skin, get in the sun, skin brush 

 

Who is Dan Sipple?

Dan is a also known as The Functional Naturopath who uses cutting-edge evidence-based medicine. Experienced in modalities such as herbal nutritional medicine, with a strong focus on environmental health and longevity, Dan has a wealth of knowledge in root-dysfunction health.

 

Resources

Mason in China at the Poria Farm
Benny Ferguson Movement Monk
Mason Retreat February 2019 
Dan Instagram
Dan Email
Gut Health - Mase and Dan

 

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Feb 10, 2019
#17 Beyond the Pill with Dr. Jolene Brighten
01:09:56

Today Tahnee chats with Dr. Jolene Brighten, who is the author of Beyond the Pill. As the name suggests, this book explores the effects of the Pill and how to transition healthily off it. Coming off the Pill can often lead to a whole host of symptoms, but these symptoms can be seen as opportunities for greater health. The ladies share their experiences as new mum's and the challenges that must be navigated. So often, women can lose trust in their body and ability to heal and part of this can be associated with how often women's needs are dismissed in the general practitioner forum. Informed consent around the Pill is required and often missing in the Western setting. The ladies remind us that our bodies never betray us, they want us to thrive!

 

The ladies discuss:

  • Postpartum challenges
  • How magnesium is a godsend for cramps
  • A Pill bleed is not a true cycle, it is simply a withdrawal bleed from the medication
  • The natural approach will always take time, so be patient
  • During third trimester, the female brain shrinks! To allow for hyper focus on the newborn. Baby brain is real!!
  • Liquorice is very beneficial for new mums and PCOS sufferers, it's anti-inflammatory, supports cortisol and helps manage androgens
  • The ins and outs of PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome)
  • Using the Pill increases your chances of several health issues (cardiovascular disease, clots, diabetes)
  • The key to balanced hormones are a supported liver and gut system
  • Regardless of your want to have a baby or not, during the reproductive years, being fertile is integral to overall health 
  • DIM and broccoli sprouts are a girls best friend when dealing wth estrogen issues
  • Ever feel dizzy upon standing up? Add some good quality salt to your water
  • Birth control-anxiety-depression; there's a connection to explore
  • Don't be scared of eating a bit of dirt every now and again :)!

 

Who is Dr. Jolene Brighten?

Dr. Jolene Brighten is a Functional Medicine Naturopathic Medical Doctor and the founder of Rubus Health, a women’s medicine clinic that specialises in women’s hormones. She is recognized as a leading expert in Post-Birth Control Syndrome and the long-term side effects associated with hormonal contraceptives. Dr. Brighten is the author of Beyond the Pill, a 30-day plan to support women on birth control, help them transition off, and eliminate symptoms of post-birth control syndrome. She is a speaker, women’s health advocate, and a medical advisor for one of the first data-driven apps to offer women personalised birth control recommendations.

 

Resources

Dr. Brighten's website
Dr. Brighten's Instagram
Dr. Brighten's new book - Beyond the Pill
Dr. Brighten's book - Healing Your Body Naturally After Childbirth
Dr. Brighten's Favourite Lion's Mane
Chi Nei Tsang
Terry Wahls - Minding your mitochondria
Imperfect Produce
Environmental Working Group
Butcher Box
Girl who had all waste in a jar in from 4 years

 

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Jan 27, 2019
#16 Becoming A Tonic Herbalist with Sage Dammers
01:07:40

This episode is for parents, health enthusiasts, practitioners, health coaches, herbalists and for those just wanting to dive deeper into answering the call as a tonic herbalist. Today, Sage Dammers (tonic herbalist and master chocolatier) and Mason cover all bases on how to develop yourself and your offering; Sage has dedicated himself to the herbs. What exactly does it take to become a tonic herbalist? Tune in to find out. The guys cover the ground knowledge and a good run down on what you are going to experience as you navigate this herbalist world. Oh and there's also a bit of speak about chocolate ;P so tune in today and lay down those foundations to becoming a tonic herbalist.  

 

 
 
In today's episode, you will hear about:
  • How chocolate is a beautiful vehicle for herbs
  • Tonic herbs and adaptogens are not symptom-based, but support the body to balance it's own systems
  • Identifying with your symptom can be terribly damaging - find a new mantra
  • Creating space (sitting down, taking time and setting an intention) to drink your herbal tonic can be transformational
  • Sage likes to begin his relationship with a new herb with 1/2ts in hot water in its pure and isolated form - get to know the herb
  • SuperFeast tonic herbs, in powder-form, forces you to connect with and forge a relationship with the adaptogen (versus a capsule / tablet)
  • Supplements can provide challenges in the later years - what exactly are the long term effects which have not been researched?
  • SuperFeast JING really provides that foundational energy
  • Sitting infront of a computer daily, means your eyes are focused on a static distance, this can be detrimental long term
  • Neural Nectar and Lion's Mane are specially effective for upgrading brain faculty
  • Eye issues (strain, poor sight) is connected with liver, so get onto Schizandra to support your liver
  • Tonic herbs are here with us, not for us
  • The Three Treasures, in particular Shen
  • Consistently having coffee does leak your Jing
  • Medicinal mushrooms are for long-term immunity, prevention people!
  • Write to us - what would you like Mason and Sage to talk about next! Email us team@superfeast.com.au

 

Who is Sage Dammers?

Fueled by a passionate desire to help people live the ultimate life and create a better world, Sage studied raw and superfood nutrition and traditional herbal systems, especially Taoist tonic herbalism. He has worked with and trained under the world’s leading master herbalists and nutrition and longevity experts in Costa Rica, Australia, Bali, China, and America.

Sage has developed products internationally and given lectures on peak performance nutrition in Australia, Bali, America, and France. His years of experience in this unique arena have allowed him to cultivate an unparalleled combination of cutting edge nutritional and culinary expertise. Sage has started tonic elixir bars in 5 star luxury hotels in Paris and Sydney serving longevity elixirs disguised as gourmet treats, introducing the novel concept of healthy indulgences to the market of world travelers.

 

Resources

Addictive Wellness
Erewhon Organic Grocer
SuperFeast JING
SuperFeast Neural Nectar
SuperFeast Lion's Mane
SuperFeast Schizandra
addictivewellness Instagram
Addictive Wellness Choccies on Amazon

 

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Jan 21, 2019
#15 Composting and Sustainability with Andrew Hayim de Vries
01:00:48

In today's eco-minded episode, Mason is joined by designer and inventor Andrew Hayim de Vries. Are you interested in the environment? Are you an eco-warrior? Or maybe you've cottoned on that we only have one earth and she is in a spot of bother ;P - well today's episode is for you. Andrew shares his absolute passion for the environment and in particular, his passion for all things composting. Want to help create a synergy of life force, by redirecting a significant waste stream? Then get involved in composting. Andrew has been developing the below-ground composting solution - the Subpod™. The guys talk about composting and how you can make sure your home or business system is good for the environment. And do you know how much food waste we have globally? Andrew will shock you! 

 

**SuperFeast HQ's works with Andrew weekly for our community composting system

 

You will hear about:

  • What makes an effective composting system
  • Above ground systems (in warm climates) are NOT a good solution
  • Food wastage is real
  • How can we view the food waste situation and improve the current landscape?
  • Soil degradation and monocultures provide considerable challenges for soil integrity
  • The village / community mentality creates engagement and accessibility
  • Businesses have an ethical responsibility to educate and lead the way in environmental practices
  • How the current status of landfill faces several key issues
  • Imagine buying food based on nutritional value, NOT on weight

 

Who is Andrew Hayim De Vries?

Andrew Hayim De Vries, is an ecologically-focused Australian artist and designer, with a host of professional works spanning 35+ years. He is driven by a passion for recycling and up-cycling, composting and permaculture, the future health of the environment and education! Andrew is based in Byron Bay, where his focus is on establishing an interactive compost education facility, titled Compost Central, which introduces the necessity of composting on-location. Andrew's  Subpod™, after successful trials and prototypes in many locations in Byron Bay and in an eco-resort in Sri Lanka, Subpod™ is now ready for manufacture, to make it available for purchase and installation globally.

 

Resources:

Andrew's Compost Central Website
Free compost talks at Santos (Byron Bay)
Subpod
Subpod Prototype
Talalla Pilot Project in Sri Lanka
Subpod Tropic at Talalla Retreat in Sri Lanka - Video
Severn Cullis-Suzuki at Rio Summit 1992
Dan Schreiber at Earth Frequency

 

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Jan 15, 2019
#14 Pregnancy Preparation with Tahnee McCrossin
01:16:00

SuperFeast founder Mason and his work and life partner Tahnee gave birth to their first babe on December 4, 2016. For those of you who are pregnant or approaching pregnancy, they recorded this very special episode discussing their childbearing year. At week 39 of pregnancy, Mason and Tahnee sat down to reflect on their pregnancy experience.

This episode continues to grow from strength to strength, as individuals are continuing to seek out conscious experiences as they navigate life. We simply had to reshare this episode. Part 2 to follow.

What you’ll learn:

  • The role the liver plays in pregnancy and why cleansing it is critical
  • How to embody detox and nourishing practices into your lifestyle so your body is always prepared for pregnancy (or just to have a rocking hormonal system)
  • Simple techniques for removing heavy metals from your system so your baby doesn’t get overloaded
  • Why men must prepare for pregnancy just as much as the woman for the sake of the child
  • Simple yet powerful techniques for cleansing and healing the gut so you can bring your microbiome back into balance
  • How the gut bacteria a woman has is passed on to her child’s immune system
  • Why you must look back into your past for clues into what you need to cleanse and nourish in your body
  • Our top herbs for cleansing the parasites out of your system
  • The best and most effective methods for deep organ cleansing
  • A breakdown on the best tonic herbs to restore strength to your system so it is ready for the childbearing year
  • How learning to release tension assists conception and creates ease in pregnancy

Resources:

 

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Jan 09, 2019
#13 Mindfulness Through Tea with Sam Gibb
01:02:27

Today, Mason is joined at the podcast mic by Sam Gibb, founder of Cloud Hidden Tea. Tea is not only one of the most sacred plants on earth, it is the second most consumed herb on the globe. This beautiful plant can be taken for granted sometimes; the lineage behind its magic and the deep ceremony ensconced in this epic leaf is next level. In today's catch up, Sam sheds light on tea and mindfulness and reminds us how every part of the day is an opportunity to practice mindfulness. The guys discuss the miracles of life and all dip in and out of esoteric matters - it was always going to happen when discussing all things tea. Grab a cuppa and enjoy.

 

“Tea is such a soft beautiful god and she really just wants to help you and meet you where you are.”
Sam Gibb
 
 
The guys discuss:
  • How to judge the quality of tea by the way it smells
  • There are sourcing similarities between SuperFeast tonic herbs and good quality tea - the notion of Di Tao
  • Fermented clay tea pots brew a superior tea
  • What makes an ideal tea?
  • Caffeine is never isolated in nature
  • Reactions to tea is always the pesticides or the processing
  • Four virtues of tea (harmony, purity, reverence and tranquility)
  • Tea purifies on the physiological level, as well as the spiritual level

 

Who is Sam Gibb?

Sam Gibbs is the founder of Cloud Hidden Tea. He’s empowering others to share tea ceremonies in yoga studios, schools, hospitals, corporate settings, prisons and more. As a devoted student of the leaf for almost two decades, Sam has traveled and explored the world in search of the finest teas and shared cups with tea experts, specialists, artisans and tea masters. Sam is now developing and introducing mindfulness-based training and education, through tea ceremony.

 

Resources

Cloud Hidden Tea
Cloud Hidden Tea Instagram
Cloud Hidden Tea Facebook
Cloud Hidden Tea Workshop - helping you start or deepen your tea practice
Ultimate Hot Choccy Recipe with Mason
Global Tea Hut
The Devine Farmer's Materia Medica

 

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Dec 17, 2018
#12 The Lowdown on Hemp with Cade Turland
01:11:04

How hot is hemp (marijuana for our American friends)? Is there anything this magical plant can't do??? Today Mason and founder of Hemple - Cade Turland - talk about the biological hard-wiring we humans have towards receiving the magical properties of hemp. In particular, it is the fat profile of hemp, that make this very nurturing plant so health-promoting. The guys end up in esoteric discussions, reflecting on life truths and how to live a life based on integrity and authenticity. It's no wonder that the pharmaceutical industry is heavily investing in hemp research, it being a hugely sustainable botanical. Cade talks about the 120 cannabinoids and their interaction with the bodily receptors. This one you won't want to miss!

 

 

The guys discuss:

  • The essential fatty acid (lipid) profile of hemp is outstanding, the ratio is the perfect Omega 3 to Omega 6 1:3
  • Hemp seed (oil in particular) can really improve skin issues like eczema, as it essentially turns down the inflammatory response
  • With 25% of your daily zinc requirements, hemp protein is potent for hormonal health and a robust immune system
  • The slightly nutty flavour profile of the hemp protein and hemp seeds, means it can contribute to ANY dish
  • Hemp has phytoremediation properties - it detoxifies the soil, it pulls radiation and toxins (like pesticides) from the soil
  • Humans have an endocannabinoid system, a biological system perfectly aligned to receiving cannabinoids
  • Is the grandfather of cannabinoids, CBG, the new and improved CBD?

 

Who is Cade Turland?

Food is in Cade Turland’s, blood. With a dairy farming background, growing up in Bowral NSW, Cade and his foodie family have always appreciated seasonal food and the farms on which it’s grown. Cade developed an interest in hemp, seeing an opportunity to introduce Australians to the versatile superfood, with a host of health benefits including highly bioavailable edestin protein, plus a positive environmental profile. Cade is the founder of Hemple.

 

Resources

Hemple Website
Hemple Instagram
GLA is found in breast milk
Ultimate Hot Choccy recipe

 

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher :)! Plus  we're on Spotify and  Soundcloud!

 

Dec 04, 2018
#11 Gut Health - Part 2 with Mase and Dan
01:12:43

Gut Health Part 2 is here! If you haven't already listened to last week's Part 1 episode, we suggest you drop in now and have a listen. The guys pick up where they left off, diving deep into the energetics of the digestive system and referencing the ancient Traditional Chinese Medicine philosophy. Probiotics and prebiotics are discussed in great detail and the role they play with chronic disease manifestations, like leaky gut. Dan (The Functional Naturopath) brings his clinical observations to the table with real-life client experiences.

 

The guys discuss:

  • 100% alkaline everything is NOT health promoting, sometimes acidity is beneficial 
  • The Spleen is connected to the whole digestive system, think of it as the digestive fire
  • Spleen deficiencies generally call for dietary adjustments and stress management 
  • Dampness can arise from depleting kidney essence (excessive amounts of cold, raw foods and fasting)
  • What diet is sustainable for decades, what flows naturally for you?
  • Extreme dietary regimes generally result in exhaustion and depletion 
  • High fat diets require more bile; some inflammatory gut species eat bile, this paired with leaky gut leads to a surge in systemic inflammation (endotoxemia)
  • Prebiotic fibre feed the beneficial native bacteria, don't forget PREbiotics!
    • Prebiotics: garlic, onion, asparagus, cooled rice and potato
  • Kidney essence relies heavily on healthy microbiome
  • Poor spleen function has emotional connections to: excessive worry, inability to tend for yourself, complaining a lot, needing gratification 
  • How medicinal mushies contain gut-boosting constituents 
  • What is Phase III of liver detoxification and how we can support it
  • How candida is opportunistic and how to lower excess levels
  • Medicinal mushies (unlike culinary mushrooms) help with fungal issues
  • We are built for walking, walk more for healthy waste excretion
  • Physical manipulation can really benefit a sluggish / toxic digestion

 

Who is Dan Sipple?

Dan is a also known as The Functional Naturopath who uses cutting-edge evidence-based medicine. Experienced in modalities such as herbal nutritional medicine, with a strong focus on environmental health and longevity, Dan has a wealth of knowledge in root-dysfunction health.

 

Resources

JING
Ubiome
Schizandra Lemonade - great morning tonic 
The Beauty Shot
Tahnee Facebook Post
Bellicon Trampoline 
Bristol Stool Chart

 

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A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher :)! Plus  we're on Spotify and  Soundcloud!

 

 

Check Out The Transcript Here:

Nov 20, 2018
#10 Gut Health - Part 1 with Mase and Dan
01:04:42

Gut health - what a minefield! Well, after today's Part 1 episode, we hope you'll be feeling more empowered understanding your gut health. Dan Sipple (The Functional Naturopath) joins Mason today as the boys dive deep into the depths of your gastro-intestinal tract! This subject is so vast, we have Part 1 and Part 2 to follow - stay tuned for next week. This episode covers the basics, what is digestion, what is good gut health and how we can build a robust gut microbiome - all the topics to get you in the driver's seat of your health. Dan shares his personal gut health journey (inclusive of viral load and Epstein-Barr) and once again, Dan brings his clinical observations to the table with real-life client experiences.

Nov 12, 2018
#09 Brain Optimisation and Neurodegeneration with Jo Grabyn
01:02:07
Keeping the brain nourished, free from toxicity and active is one of the keys to epic health and longevity. In this awesome interview Mason dives deep into the neural world with brain health expert Jo Grabyn. 
 
Neurodegenration is a current epidemic in the West and it is getting worse. Modern medicine has yet to get to the root cause of the premature ageing of the brain. One of the amazing distinctions to come out of this interview is how there are 6 general types of Alzheimer's, not just one, and how this tells us that lifestyle and environmental factors play major roles in creating these diseases/symptoms; this means the power is in your hands to make changes. 
 
You will learn: 
- The top causes of neurodegernation, including Alzheimer's and dementia
- The lifestyle choices you can make now to prevent the onset of premature ageing of the brain
- Treatment protocols for degeneration of the brain
- The signs to watch out for and act upon early for brain health
- How the gut and brain are connected through the vagus nerve 
- Ways to become a detective and discover the root cause of your brain symptoms
- And heaps, HEAPS more
 
Jo Grabyn has a Bachelor of Health Science (Nutritional Medicine), and studied psycho-neuro-immunology (PNI) and psycho-neuro-endocrinology (PNE); basically, how your thinking creates & changes brain chemistry, affecting your hormones, your immune system & your whole body in turn. Jo is qualified in the Bredesen Protocol (also known as the MEND Protocol), making me one of the few in Australia who can use this method to tackle and reverse—or prevent—the onset of early Alzheimer’s disease and dementia. She trained recently with the institute of functional medicine studying neurodegeneration on a deep level and the integrative medicine for mental health. 
 
Resources:
 
Welcome to your brain article:
 
The Taoist Brains article:
 
Lion's mane:
 
Neural Nectar:
Nov 05, 2018
#08 Reishi, Mushroom of Immortality with Dan Sipple
01:21:59

Today's episode is dedicated to talking all about our favourite mushrooms; reishi. Known as the mushroom of immortality and the mushroom of spiritual potential, this herb truly is a wonder and a gift to our health. Mason is joined by his friend Dan Sipple (clinical naturopath @the.functional.naturopath) to discuss the lore, history, clinical use and wide range of benefits of this ancient herb. Mason shares his experience from getting thousands of people onto reishi mushrooms and what he's seen as the consistent theme, while Dan shares what he's seen in his wide array of patients when given reishi. 

We will discuss:

  • How to use reishi for candida
  • Reishi and pregnancy
  • Whether children can take reishi
  • How to ensure your reishi is quality
  • Autoimmunity and reishi
  • How to take this magic mushie
  • Reishi for sleep
  • The compounds that make reishi adaptogenic
  • How reishi calms the Shen (spirit)
  • Reishi for balancing emotions and calming the mind
  • How to identify reishi

 

Resources:

Reishi mushroom:
https://www.superfeast.com.au/products/wild-reishi-powdered-extract

The Secret Teachings of Plants by Stephen Harrod Buhner

Oct 30, 2018
#07 SuperFeast 101 with Mason
01:06:42

All your most frequently asked questions answered by Mason in this fun and interactive session. Get ready to become a SuperFeast tonic herb aficionado. 

Resources:

5 Reasons Why Medicinal Mushrooms Are So Hot Right Now
https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/5-reasons-why-medicinal-mushrooms-are-so-hot-right-now

The 8 Most Powerful Medicinal Mushrooms You Need to Know About
https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/the-8-most-powerful-medicinal-mushrooms-you-need-to-know-about

Tonic Herbs, What Are They? An Introduction 
https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/tonic-herbs-what-are-they

Top 5 Most Popular Elixir Recipes 
https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/our-top-5-most-read-tonic-elixirs

Oct 22, 2018
#06 The 5 Elements for Modern Taoists with Heath Daly
01:31:30
Big one today. Mason chats with Heath Daly from Raw Kitchen in Perth. Basically 2 guys sharing their deep perspective on the 5 elements and Taoist tonic herbalism and how they’ve witnessed this wisdom transform their lives. Heath has been studying this topic and many other aspects of health and healing for over 20 years and has a wonderful way of getting right down to the key points that will help us to transform our health. By the end of this chat you’ll have a grasp of 5 elements theory and Taoist herbalism in a way that is grounded and able to be integrated into your life. 
 
We cover:
  • How to live a life of purpose
  • The magic of the 5 elements 
  • How to get closer in tune with nature
  • How to use tonic herbs in a purposeful life
  • Taoism as guide to life
  • How to be deeply in the body while staying spiritual
  • How to do a 5 elements mediation 
  • How to stay adaptive with your health practice and not get “bogged” down by dogma
  • How to connect deeper with your vital organs
  • Ways to get the liver unstuck
  • The top virtues of the organs and the body
  • The magic of the breath
  • Insights to take the 5 elements from a theory to a living reality
  • Ways to do fasting in a balanced lifestyle
  • Using herbs to tone the elements 
 
Heath Daly is the owner of The Raw Kitchen and a Naturopath with over 20 years experience in holistic medicine. He was a senior lecturer at The Australian College of Natural Medicine and has been public lecturing on health and wellness for the last 12 years. Heath is a progressive health educator on a mission to help people connect back to nature and heal.
Oct 15, 2018
#05 Ancient Secrets of Tonic Herbalism
01:03:33
Mason is travelling through China visiting the pristine mountains and valleys where we grow and forage our tonic herbs and medicinal mushrooms. Right in the middle of these experiences, he is dripping with the awareness and perception of the Taoist tonic herb tradition that emerged on this ancient land and the majesty of the herbs, and he shared this passionately in this podcast. 
 
You are going to learn all the ins and outs of the wild foraging and conscious farming operations of medicinal mushrooms & tonics and how to ensure you’re sourcing the absolute greatest possible tonic herbs. If you are buying your herbs from SuperFeast, you will learn why our products work so well and are superior in quality. If you’re not sourcing our herbs you will learn the questions to ask the people providing you medicinal mushrooms and herbs to ensure you are not being swindled into buying an inferior product.
 
We will take a journey into the roots of this herbal philosophy and learn when the split occurred away from traditional healing towards a reductionist approach to healing and herbalism (towards modern medicine), and the consequences. Mason covers what is needed to become an integrated practitioner that keeps develops expertise in the prevention and optimisation approach to health that tonic herbalism and shamanic Taoism is rooted within. 
 
In this episode we will cover:
  • Why prevention beats treatment every time
  • The origins of Taoist tonic herbalism
  • What Shen Nong had to say about where to source herbs
  • Di Tao as the ultimate way to source herbs
  • How to ensure your herbs stay heavy metal and radiation free
  • Why wild chaga is superior
  • How to grow the best schizandra ever
  • Why modern doctors have got it wrong
  • How Traditional Chinese Medicine lost its way 
  • Why mushrooms grown on grain are the worst ever
  • The two types of people that grow mushrooms on grain
  • How to make a herb more adaptogenic through conscious farming 
  • And heaps more! 
Oct 08, 2018
#04 Transformation with Tonic Herbalism
01:13:52
Today on the episode we’ve got a bit of a twist. In this ep Mason is the one being interviewed. After sitting down with Estée Manning from The Hotel Guest Wellbeing Show we felt it was too good not share with you guys. These 2 basically talk about everything that you’d want to know about the SuperFeast herbs, whether you’re just starting out or a seasoned herb nerd. They jam out why we source the way we do, which herbs to choose during different times of your journey, WHEN to take the herbs, how much to take and the general philosophy that you want to be adopting and just so more epic stuff.
 
If you want to know everything about SuperFeast, why we do things the way se do ‘em and how to navigate our world of tonic herbs then this episode is for you. Plus, Estée asks Mason some epic questions about what purpose is to him, what is exciting him right now and others that will give you a further insight into the energy that is behind SuperFeast. 
 
We talk about:
  • The science behind medicinal mushrooms 
  • How mushrooms are an ancient herbal food for humans
  • Using herbs to tone and increase your flow of Qi (Chi)
  • How herbs affect your spirit and why reishi is amazing for this
  • The art of adding these herbs to coffee
  • Ways to incorporate these herbs into your life
  • How to have happy hormones through tonic herbs
  • How we extract the herbs and why it’s effective for our culture
  • The 3 classifications of herbs as told by Shen Nong
  • Keys to longevity
  • The difference between Qi and Jing
  • The 3 treasures of Taoist philosophy
  • Redefining beauty and how real beauty lies in the organs
  • The connection between herbalism, mindset and emotions
  • The importance of purpose for a long and happy life
  • And HEAPS more
 
Resources:
Estée Manning’s podcast
 
Video of Estée Manning interviewing Mason
 
Recipes to use SuperFeast herbs
Oct 01, 2018
#03 Men’s Health with Dr Ralph Esposito
01:15:13

Our first guest to the podcast – Dr Ralph is in the house! In today’s show, Mason and Dr Ralph explore all things men’s health and sexual dysfunction (and what you can do about it to get your sex drive rocking) and look at the tonic herbs that can 10x a man’s sexual health. Dr Ralph is a medical consultant and research analyser in New York and shares the most common health complaints he sees from his male patients. The guys cover erectile dysfunction, pornography, tips to resensitise the male body, sperm health and how it’s important to converse with your partner on these topics to regain a healthy sex life. The interaction between chemical neurotransmitters and molecules is explored and how they affect a male’s sexual function. Traditional Chinese Medicine philosophy is weaved throughout the podcast and several herbs and practical lifestyle practices are explored to reinvigorate the male function and energy. 

“Erectile dysfunction in younger men….is alarming….it should not be an issue in young fertile men” – Dr Ralph’

In today’s episode we will cover:

  • The most common issue in men’s health and what to do about it
  • Adaptogens for daddy issues?!
  • The erectile dysfunction epidemic in young, fertile men
  • The HPA axis and how it relates to the biological chain of events in the body
  • Reishi as an immunomodulator and stress modulator
  • How men completely underestimate how strong the mind is and what role it must play in health and sexual function
  • Deer antler; the super yang herb to increase sexual vigour
  • How stress is the key factor related to psychological issues of erectile dysfunction
  • The connection between sleep, testosterone and sex drive
  • The connection between sexual dysfunction and pornography
  • The healthy nature of masturbation
  • The fact that sharing with your partner your wants, needs and desires is critical to a healthy relationship and sexual function
  • The magic of mucuna for men’s health
  • Meditate and testosterone
  • The immortal question: Is more testosterone ALWAYS better?
  • The number one anti-erection molecule and what you can do to reduce it
  • Testicular health 101
  • Colourful foods are high in antioxidants and great for testicular health
  • And heaps more.

Who is Dr Espo?

Dr. Esposito is a naturopathic physician, licensed acupuncturist and functional medicine practitioner specializing in Hormones, Integrative Urology and Men's Health. His precise and personalized style embodies a progressive approach to medicine. He has been published and is a peer reviewer in well-respected medical journals. Furthermore, Dr. Esposito has authored several medical textbook chapters and has designed education modules for health professionals specifically on urological conditions, fertility, male and female hormone dysfunction, Low Testosterone, exercise, fitness, men’s health and sexual dysfunction. He has trained at NYU Integrative and Functional Urology Center. Dr. Esposito also holds a position as adjunct professor at New York University where he lectures on integrative medicine.

Resources

Dr Espo’s site
https://doctorespo.com/

Dr Espo’s insta
https://www.instagram.com/dr.ralphesposito/

Schizandra article https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/the-7-sexy-benefits-of-the-wonder-berry-schizandra 

HPA axis H-P-A- what? https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/stressssss-we-ve-all-heard-of-it-and-we-ve-all-experienced-it-but-what-is-actually-going-on-in-our-bodies-when-we-feel-stressed)

Sleepy Reishi tonic recipe https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/the-greatest-reishi-mushroom-tonic-for-deep-sleep-recipe-and-video 

Reishi article
https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/long-live-the-reishi-queen 

DUTCH test
https://dutchtest.com/

Deer Antler
https://www.superfeast.com.au/products/deer-antler-powdered-extract

 

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes.

 

Sep 23, 2018
#02 Jing Energy
47:33

Join Mason as we take a deep dive into the mysterious and vitally important energy that lives in our kidneys; Jing. ‘Jing’ is the Chinese word for ‘essence’ - specifically kidney essence. In the ancient Taoist tradition, fatigue, weakness and hormonal imbalance, were all considered a result of Jing depletion. By learning to nourish Jing we begin to stop any “leaking” of this energy, and therefore cease to be in states of exhaustion and restore this energy so that our body can grow deep roots of health to grow upon. When the Jing is strong and being used sustainably we experience healthy hormones, less stress, a rocking libido and strong bones, back, hips and knees. Mason covers the primary herbs and practices needed to ensure healthy levels of Jing in the body, this is our first step to ensuring a nice long, healthy life is experienced. 

In this podcast you will learn:

  • The key principles to stop leaking Jing and start accumulating it
  • What is Jing and why does it live in the kidneys
  • Why Jing is the key to great digestive fire
  • How to get away from being exhausted and start building energy in your organs
  • How stress leaks your life essence
  • Why weak knees, hips and lower back are a sign of deficient Jing
  • How Kidney health determines the capacity of ALL your vital organs
  • The keys to ensuring your libido is rocking
  • The best herbs to build back your core Jing energy and how to take them
  • Why the JING blend is a key for long term energy

Resources

“What is Jing and How To Cultivate it” Article

https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/what-is-jing-and-how-to-cultivate-it

30 Days of JING Challenge

https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/30-days-of-jing-challenge-to-restore-core-energy

JING tonic recipe
https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/instant-jing-recipe

JING blend
https://www.superfeast.com.au/products/jing-kidney-and-adrenal-tonic

Deer antler velvet
https://www.superfeast.com.au/products/deer-antler-powdered-extract

SuperFeast Website
superfeast.com.au (sign up to the epic SuperFeast newsletter for 10% off your first order!)

SuperFeast Instagram
@superfeast

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes.

 

Sep 23, 2018
#01 What is Tonic Herbalism? with Tahnee McCrossin
01:04:58

Today at SuperFeast headquarters, Mason and Tahnee talk all things Taoist tonic herbalism. What the heck is Taoism? Don’t worry, by the end of this discussion, you’ll be all over this ancient philosophy (especially when it comes to herbal practice!) SuperFeast prides itself on respecting the ancient tradition of tonic herbalism that emerged through the Orient and respecting the ancient wisdom from those before us. Mason and Tahnee dive deep into how the ancient tonic herbalists lived and how we, the modern human, can learn and incorporate these practices into our daily lifestyles. Exactly how does our current Western lifestyle affect us? The lifestyle which disturbs our circadian rhythms and promotes us being out of flow with the natural cycles of nature? Short answer - degeneration and ageing; we’re here to change that. Listen to join us on this mission.

In this episode you will learn:

  • Taoist tonic herb philosophy
  • Macrocosm vs microcosm of herbalism
  • Why women should have as much sex as they like
  • The formula for good Qi flowing through the body
  • What Qi is and how it animates you
  • Our approach to diet
  • Why we search for the path of least resistance in health and herbal practice
  • Why an adaptable mind allows for epic health
  • How to become a ‘somanaut’ through the tonic herbs
  • Why separation from nature is the root cause of illness
  • How to prevent having “flabby” immune systems
  • Transformation through these herbs
  • Why we’re dropping reishi bombs of consciousness around the world
  • Why longevity isn’t an overnight phenomenon
  • We provide good quality, epic, non-irradiated wild herbs - based on Di Tao principles
  • Tonic herbs are multi-directional and their benefits accumulate over time
  • Quick overview of the three treasures Qi, Jing and Shen - more in future episodes!
  • One of the missing links in Western philosophy, the energetics of herbs

About Mason

Mason Taylor is a wellness educator, host of The Mason Taylor Show podcast, professional speaker and retreat facilitator. He is a passionate tonic herbalist and founder of Australia’s leading tonic herb and medicinal mushroom provider, SuperFeast. Mason is dedicated to teaching people of all walks of life how to embrace and benefit from the healing forces of nature as they create a unique and dynamic health philosophy. A long and happy life is the intention. Mason also brings a refreshing and cheeky sense of humour to his talks, podcast, and life, because longevity relies on a good belly laugh.

 

About Tahnee

Tahnee McCrossin is a student of the body, weaving the ancient healing traditions of Yoga and Taoism with somatic exploration and modern scientific understanding into an integrated system that supports longevity and self-healing of the body-mind-spirit. Through her work as a yoga and meditation teacher, chi ne tsang practitioner and health researcher, she is striving to reunite the modern body-mind with the spiritual and psychological wisdom of the ancients. She is grateful to be a current student of Mantak Chia, Paul Grilley and Michael Tierra.  

 

Resources

SuperFeast Website
superfeast.com.au (sign up to the epic SuperFeast newsletter for 10% off your first order!)

SuperFeast Instagram
@superfeast

Mason Instagram
@maysonjtaylor 

Tahnee Instagram
@tahneemccrossin

SuperFeast Phone
1300 769 500

SuperFeast Email
team@superfeast.com.au - got any podcast ideas? Let us know ☺!

Mason and Tahnee are learning with Michael Tierra
https://planetherbs.com/

Shen Nong The Divine Farmer’s Materia Medica
https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Farmers-Materia-Medica-Translation/dp/0936185961

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes.

 

Sep 23, 2018
#00 Welcome to the SuperFeast Podcast
28:05

Hey Superfeasters, today marks the inaugural SuperFeast podcast and we are super stoked to say the least! SuperFeast founder Mason Taylor shares airtime with his work and life partner, Tahnee McCrossin. In today’s introductory podcast, Mason and Tahnee cover everything you need to know about SuperFeast, themselves and what you can expect from this epic podcast. This includes how SuperFeast was born (literally from Mason’s mum’s spare room) and explore an umbrella view of the herbs, what they are, how to integrate them into your daily life and the countless benefits that arise from working with the herbs.

“It’s not just about putting a powder in your smoothie it’s about connecting with the energy of something from the earth that has its own intention and its own consciousness” - Tahnee McCrossin

In today’s episode we will cover:

  • Who are Mason Taylor and Tahnee McCrossin?
  • The personal journey that lead to SuperFeast’s creation in 2011
  • Why we are so into medicinal mushrooms
  • Adaptive herbs and how they support and nourish the bodily systems (our core philosophy)
  • Why we chose to work with herbs that support conscious and constitutional shifts
  • Learning about the magic of these herbs knowing they’re not a silver bullet
  • Tonic herbs are aligned with natural rhythms and long term health upgrades
  • The herbs have their own intention and connection to the source
  • We love our SuperFeast community!
  • Why we source herbs Di Tao
  • Purity of SuperFeast herbs – wild and no fillers
  • SuperFeast core values and intentions
  • Reconnecting with an ancient herbal system
  • The crazy benefits of sourcing wild and semi-wildrcrafted herbs
  • Practical uses for the herbs and daily integration

About Mason

Mason Taylor is a wellness educator, host of The Mason Taylor Show podcast, professional speaker and retreat facilitator. He is a passionate tonic herbalist and founder of Australia’s leading tonic herb and medicinal mushroom provider, SuperFeast. Mason is dedicated to teaching people of all walks of life how to embrace and benefit from the healing forces of nature as they create a unique and dynamic health philosophy. A long and happy life is the intention. Mason also brings a refreshing and cheeky sense of humour to his talks, podcast, and life, because longevity relies on a good belly laugh.

About Tahnee

Tahnee McCrossin is a student of the body, weaving the ancient healing traditions of Yoga and Taoism with somatic exploration and modern scientific understanding into an integrated system that supports longevity and self-healing of the body-mind-spirit. Through her work as a yoga and meditation teacher, chi ne tsang practitioner and health researcher, she is striving to reunite the modern body-mind with the spiritual and psychological wisdom of the ancients. She is grateful to be a current student of Mantak Chia, Paul Grilley and Michael Tierra.  

Resources

SuperFeast Website
superfeast.com.au (sign up to the epic SuperFeast newsletter for 10% off your first order!)

SuperFeast Instagram
@superfeast

Mason Instagram
@maysonjtaylor 

Tahnee Instagram
@tahneemccrossin

SuperFeast Phone
1300 769 500 

SuperFeast Email
team@superfeast.com.au - got any podcast ideas? Let us know !

What are tonic herbs? https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/tonic-herbs-what-are-they

What is Di Tao? https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/what-is-di-tao

 

Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast?

A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes.

 

Sep 23, 2018