The Argument

By The New York Times Opinion

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 Nov 19, 2018
Not the least out of touch. Ross Douthat represents a solid religiously conservative perspective. David represents a good moderate point of view, and Michelle is a solid, but not extreme left. the conversations are thoughtful and insightful

 Nov 8, 2018
Decent analysis of politics, but out of touch. It not truly a representation of left, right and center. It's really a far left, standard left, and just barely right of center. Gave it shot, but it's a hard pass.


The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.

Episode Date
Will Trump's Presidency Survive 2019?

The columnists weigh Trump's mounting legal problems and debate whether he'll finish his first term. Michelle visualizes President Pelosi. Editorial board member Mara Gay makes Ross answer for his WASP nostalgia. And David recommends you go nuts (for donuts). Background reading for this episode:

Dec 13, 2018
Is Donald Trump A Traitor?

The columnists debate Trump's Russia entanglement: is the president a traitor? Ross sits down with Lawfare's executive editor Susan Hennessey to lay out what's happening with Robert Mueller's special counsel investigation. Afterwards, Ross remains agnostic on Trump's collusion, Michelle says dayenu, and David thinks there's a path to impeachment through Mueller's report. Background reading for this episode:

Dec 06, 2018
What Do We Do About Climate Change?

This week the columnists grapple with partisan gridlock over climate change: how do we find a solution when we can't even agree on the problem? Then, David visits Capitol Hill to interview California Representative Ro Khanna, "the ambassador of Silicon Valley," about Trump and progressive economics. And finally, a friendly recommendation. Background reading for this episode:

Nov 29, 2018
Do We Need A Third Party?

The columnists dig into a listener's voicemail: does America need a third party? Then, just in time for Thanksgiving, our argumentative trio dishes out some advice for how to handle your own dinner-table debates. And finally, a Coen brothers recommendation to make your holiday weekend a little darker. Find background reading for this episode at

Nov 21, 2018
Is Amazon Bad for America?

The columnists discuss Amazon's uninspired new headquarters locations and are surprised to find they agree on the danger of Amazon as a monopoly, for different reasons. David Leonhardt is baited into playing the "neo-liberal shill." Ross Douthat debates pro-Trump writer Daniel McCarthy over whether the president is actually good for the Republican party. And Michelle Goldberg suggests you soothe your political anxieties with CBD gummies.

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Nov 15, 2018
Did Trump Lose The Midterms?

The columnists debate what Democratic gains in the House and Republican gains in the Senate mean for the country’s future. Ross dreams of a fantastic world of rainbows, child tax credits and a better president. David wishes racism was more decisively rejected in the midterms. Michelle thinks women will save this country yet. And whether you’re elated or disappointed after election day, we have a suggestion: Go take a bath.

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Nov 08, 2018
Who's to Blame for American Political Violence?

The columnists debate whether America’s lethal anger is a right-wing problem. Did Trump incite the recent targeted attacks? After Michelle reports back from the campaign trail in Georgia, they all discuss the partisan battle of the sexes: has politics become polarized by gender? Is the Republican party the party of men, and the Democratic party the party of women?

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Nov 01, 2018
How Screwed Up Is American Democracy?

The columnists debate just how rotten our democratic system has become, and what could fix it. David is furious about voter suppression in North Dakota and Georgia. Ross thinks NeverTrump Republicans should cast their midterm votes for House Democrats. And we learn what Michelle would do if she had the “pee tape.”

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Oct 25, 2018
Is Trump Destroying the World Order?

Opinion columnists David Leonhardt and Thomas Friedman discuss the apparent killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and the strained future of U.S.-Saudi relations. Then, Michelle Goldberg, Ross Douthat and David debate whether Trump's foreign policy emboldens autocrats and threatens liberal democracy. No surprise: they disagree. But common ground is found over club soda.

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Oct 18, 2018
Is the Supreme Court Broken?

The columnists debate if Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation broke the Supreme Court. Michelle feels the patriarchy’s boot on her neck. David cautions Democrats about running on the #MeToo movement in the midterms. And Ross sings. Seriously.

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Oct 11, 2018
Introducing The Argument, an Opinion podcast from The New York Times

Coming Thursday, October 11, a new Opinion podcast from The New York Times that answers the question, "How could they possibly think that?" Join Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat every Thursday as they explain the range of arguments around the week's political debate. You'll learn the why's behind party decisions and doctrine, and discover new ways to make your argument appeal to people who see the world differently.

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Oct 04, 2018