More Than Small Talk with Suzanne, Holley, & Jennifer (KLRC)

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Suzie Eller, Holley Gerth and Jennifer Watson, authors and real-life friends, invite you each week to go deeper, become freer and feel more connected. Every episode includes a confession question as well as helpful truths, tips and resources. If you want more peace and less stress, more vulnerability and less trying to be perfect, more hope and less hustle this is the podcast for you.

Episode Date
A Little More: Stronger Than You Feel

It's okay if you feel weak or like you're failing. Holley reminds you why you're stronger than you think you are.


Introvert by Design by Holley

Jun 02, 2023
From Heartbreak to Strength (Episode 234)

Have you faced heartbreak? Author and podcaster Jodi Rosser joins us to share how God used the hardest things in her life to bring her to a place of deep healing.


Depth: Growing through Heartbreak to Strength by Jodi Rosser

Jun 01, 2023
A Little More: Does Everything Have to be Perfect

That thing you are doing doesn’t have to be perfect to matter. 

May 26, 2023
Does It Matter (Episode 233)

Does what you’re doing matter? YES! We have a conversation about how even the small things in our lives can be significant. 


Freedom by Jennifer Watson

May 25, 2023
A Little More: You Don't Have to Try So Hard

Do you feel like your To-Do list is bossing you around? You can come to Jesus and he will give you rest.


Jennifer's website

May 19, 2023
Just As You Are (Episode 232)

God wants to use you as you are, where you are, in whatever season you're in. We talk through why that's true and what helps when it's hard to remember.


Joy Keeper by Suzie

May 18, 2023
A Little More: Intentionally Created

You are intentionally created as an introvert or extrovert and we need you to be who God created you to be!


Introvert by Design by Holley

May 12, 2023
You're Divinely Designed (Episode 231)

God intentionally created you! Holley shares insights and encouragement from her new guided journal, Introvert by Design.


Introvert by Design by Holley

May 11, 2023
A Little More: Leading Without Losing Who You Are

Your path to leading doesn’t have to look like anyone else.

May 05, 2023
Confidence to Lead (Episode 230)

Catherine Gates, author of The Confidence Cornerstone, joins us to talk about the challenges women face in leadership and what can help us become more confident as we step into all God has called us to do.


The Confidence Cornerstone by Catherin Gates

May 04, 2023
A Little More: Emotional Strength

Life might not always look how we hoped it would, but life can still be good. This episode reminds us who to turn to for the emotional strength we need.


Subscribe to Jennifer's website for moEre encouragement

Apr 28, 2023
Psychological Fitness (Episode 229)

Karen Doll joins us to talk about what it means to be psychologically fit, especially at work. She shares what helps with burnout and how to get mentally and emotionally stronger.


Building Psychological Fitness by Dr. Karen Doll

Apr 27, 2023
A Little More: Embrace the Wonky

Day not going the way you planned? Try embracing the wonky! Holley shares unexpected advice from a recent mini-adventure in her life. 


Apr 21, 2023
Mini-Adventures! (Episode 228)

Do you need a strategy to add more fun to your life, help you heal, or grow closer to the people you love? We talk about how mini-adventures can do all that and more! 


Subscribe to Holley’s site for more encouragement (and occasional mini-adventure updates) 

Apr 20, 2023
A Little More: Bigger Than My Ups and Downs

God and his power is constant in our ups and downs.

Apr 14, 2023
Flash Theology (Episode 227)

Jenny Randle, author of Flash Theology, takes us beyond learning theology to how we can truly live it. She helps us be less intimidated and more engaged in getting to know God and His Word (plus she makes us laugh a lot too).


Flash Theology by Jenny Randle

Apr 13, 2023
A Little More: Be Nice to Yourself

Have you ever had one of those days where nothing seems to go right? It's easy to beat ourselves up with negative self-talk and that is why it's so important to learn how to talk to ourselves like we would a friend.

Apr 07, 2023
Speaking Life to Ourselves (Episode 226)

What we say to ourselves matters. We talk through why it's easy too be our own worst critic and ways to replace the harsh voice inside with one that's helpful, encouraging, and life-giving.


Joy Keeper by Suzie Eller

Apr 06, 2023
A Little More: The Secret to Aging Well

Holley shares her 93 year-old Grandpa's advice for aging well along with truth to give us hope for our journey toward Home.

Mar 31, 2023
CourAGEously Aging (Episode 225)

How can you age with courage and joy? We talk through our fears about aging, what true beauty means, and how to become a better, stronger human with each year that passes.


Fiercehearted by Holley

Mar 30, 2023
A Little More: Scarred and Beautiful

I’m scarred. You’re scarred. Our scars are beautiful to God.

Mar 24, 2023
Body Acceptance (Episode 224)

Is accepting your body a struggle? Tori Stanley, therapist and contestant on Survivor 42, shares how we can replace self-criticism with a more realistic and loving relationship with our bodies.


Tori Stanley, Therapist and Coach

Mar 23, 2023
A Little More: Knowing Your Worth

Jennifer encourages us to know our true worth in Christ instead of throwing away our confidence.


Subscribe to Jennifer’s encouraging emails

Mar 17, 2023
Image Restored (Episode 223)

If you've ever struggled with body image, this conversation with Rachael Gilbert, author of Image Restored, will encourage you. She shares her story along with truth and practical steps for changing the way we see ourselves.


Image Restored by Rachael Gilbert

Mar 16, 2023
A Little More: Safe Person Checklist

How do you know if someone in your life is safe? Holley shares a checklist based on 1 Corinthians 13.


You're Already Amazing by Holley

Mar 10, 2023
You're Going to Make It (Episode 222)

Are you walking through a hard season or healing from hurt in a relationship? Lysa Terkeurst, new York Times bestselling author of You're Going to Make it, joins us to share her hard-won wisdom on healing.


You're Going to Make It by Lysa Terkeurst

Mar 09, 2023
A Little More: Healing From Father Wounds

Those feelings are valid. God is a safe place to share them as healing begins.

Mar 03, 2023
Father Wounds (Episode 221)

Do you carry hurt that came from your relationship with your father? Kia Stephens, author of Father Wounds, shares how you can exchange the failings of your earthly father for the unfailing love of your heavenly one.


Father Wounds by Kia Stephens

Mar 02, 2023
A Little More: Friends Celebrating Friends

Friends celebrating and showing up for one another is the ultimate win. Friends help you find your missing pieces and pray you back home when you’ve lost your way. And, when it's your time to shine, they will be right next to you cheering the loudest.


Feb 24, 2023
Come Sit with Me (Episode 220)

Do you want to feel more connected but find community challenging at times? You're not the only one. Becky Keife, editor of the (in)courage book Come Sit with Me, shares real-life stories and strategies for stronger relationships.


Come Sit with Me by (in)courage

Feb 23, 2023
A Little More: Good News about Awkward Moments

Holley shares three reasons why awkward moments can actually make you MORE likeable.


The Powerful Purpose of Introverts by Holley

Feb 17, 2023
Start with Hello (Episode 219)

Do you wonder what it really means to love your neighbors or how to make that happen? Shannan Martin, author of Start with Hello, gives us encouragement and practical strategies for everything from hospitality to small talk.


Start with Hello by Shannan Martin

Feb 16, 2023
A Little More: Healing is Hard Work

Healing is hard work, and you are worth it.

Feb 10, 2023
Divine Detour (Episode 218)

Has life turned out differently than you planned? Lori Ann Wood, author of Divine Detour, joins us to share her story of facing challenge she never expected and finding God in hard places she never wanted to go.


Divine Detour by Lori Ann Wood

Feb 09, 2023
A Little More: Dream Again

Sometimes dreaming is hard when we are in a season of waiting. Jennifer encourages us to dream again and trust God in the waiting.


Feb 03, 2023
New Year, New Dreams (Episode 217)

Is it hard or easy for you to dream this year? We share our answer and talk through the challenges and gifts of dreaming for the future while embracing what’s right here too. 


Fiercehearted by Holley 

Feb 02, 2023
A Little More: Small is the New Big

Do you ever worry your life or dreams are too small? Paus and let Holley remind you of how God sees your ordinary life as extraordinary and meaningful.

Jan 27, 2023
New Year, New Perspective (Episode 216)

Guest Rachel Adams joins us to share about her new book, A Little Goes a Long Way, and why we’re already significant in the eyes of God. If your life feels ordinary, listen to this conversation about how small is actually big. 

Jan 26, 2023
A Little More: Wall or Door?

Instead of a wall, we open a door into healthy friendships.

Jan 20, 2023
New Year, New Relationships (Episode 215)

What do you hope for in your relationships this year? We have a conversation about how sometimes it’s hard to even know what you want or need, and how to both give and receive. 


Prayer Starters: Talking with God about Hard Times by Suzie  

Jan 19, 2023
A Little More: Messy is the New Pretty

Perfectionism is crippling and keeps us from stepping out in faith. Jennifer encourages us to realize that now more than ever, people need to see our vulnerable, messy self to connect with us on a deeper level. 

Jan 13, 2023
New Year, New Creativity (Episode 214)

Everyone is creative because we're made in the image of a creative God. We talk through why creativity matters, ways to pursue it, and how it can help us find joy and healing this year.

Jan 12, 2023
Celebrating 4 Years (Episode 213)

In celebration of 4 years of More Than Smalltalk, today we're looking back at our very first episode, "The Power of a New Start." In this episode we talk about how to make changes in your life. We also answer a confession question (gasp!) and talk through helpful truths, tips and resources.

Jan 05, 2023
A Little More: The Gift of Rest

Rest is a gift we all need this holiday season. Holley shares how we have permission to rest and that it can be an act of worship. 


What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth

Dec 30, 2022
Silent Night (Episode 212)

In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What kind of silent night do you need in your life or relationships this year?


4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them

Dec 29, 2022
A Little More: God Cares

Ways that God cares when you’re battling with despair.

Dec 23, 2022
I Heard the Bells (Episode 211)

In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What helps you find hope even when the holidays are hard?


4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them

What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth

Dec 22, 2022
A Little More: Mark Perfection Off Your List This Christmas

In this episode, Jennifer shares some fond memories of Christmases that were far from perfect but by far the ones that meant the most. 


Dec 16, 2022
Go Tell it On the Mountain (Episode 210)

In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What has God been doing in your life that you want go tell on the mountain (or the podcast)? 


4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them

Freedom by Jennifer Watson

Dec 15, 2022
A Little More: Finding God in the Ordinary

Sometimes it feels like God is only in the big things but Holley reminds us this Christmas season that he is often found it what's small and ordinary.


What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth

Dec 09, 2022
O Little Town of Bethlehem (Episode 209)

In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. How can we look for him in ordinary, unexpected places–the “Bethlehems” of our lives? 


4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them

Dec 08, 2022
A Little More: About Me, About You

Your story matters.

Dec 02, 2022
Suzie: Things You Never Knew (Episode 208)

If Suzie could have any adventure she wanted, what would it be? We ask her this question along with others as part of a Million Downloads celebration series where you’ll get to go deeper (and laugh) with each of us. 


More Than Small Talk Facebook Page

Dec 01, 2022
A Little More: Faith in the Unseen

Have you ever felt like everyday looks the same? It’s so hard to see the miraculous in the mundane moments of our life. Yet, even when we can’t see it God is working on our behalf.

Nov 25, 2022
Jennifer: Things You Never Knew (Episode 207)

If Jennifer could create her ideal snack basket, what would it contain? We ask her this question along with others as a part of a Million Downloads celebration series where you'll get to go deeper (and laugh) with each of us.

Nov 24, 2022
A Little More: Dream Machine

Holley shares a story from her childhood about a yellow paddle boat, a summer adventure, and the bittersweetness of letting go. 

Nov 18, 2022
Holley: Things You Never Knew (Episode 206)

What’s one thing that would really surprise people about Holley? We ask her this question along with others as part of a Million Downloads celebration series where you’ll get to go deeper (and laugh) with each of us! 

Nov 17, 2022
A Little More: A Fun Throwback

In honor of one million downloads, we’re sharing this special throwback episode with you!

Nov 11, 2022
One Million Downloads! What?! (Episode 205)

Thanks to you, we're celebrating a huge milestone for More Than Smalltalk- one million downloads! We look back on how far we've come, share what we've learned, and give a sneak peak of what's coming next.

Nov 10, 2022
A Little More: Healthy Boundaries

Setting healthy boundaries may feel hard, but you are worth it.

Resource: The Mom I Want to Be: Rising Above Your Past to Give Your Kids a Great Future.

Nov 04, 2022
Can We Talk About Sex? (Episode 204)

Guest Sheila Gregoire shares her insights from a survey with over 20k women. We talk about the myths of purity culture, what God intended sex to truly be, and the healing power of being safe spaces for each other.

Resources with Sheila Gregoire

Nov 03, 2022
A Little More: Hope in the Midst of Loss

{Trigger Warning} The month of October is Pregnancy and Infant loss awareness. In this episode, Jennifer shares her personal story of loss. 

Oct 28, 2022
When Boundaries Get Broken (Episode 203)

Sometimes even when we guard our hearts, we still get hurt. What then? We’ll talk about how to start healing, ways to repair relationships, and lessons we’ve learned the hard way. 

Oct 27, 2022
A Little More: When You Worry About the People You Love

What if something happens to someone I love? If you've ever asked that question, Holley has encouraging truth fo r your anxious heart today.

Oct 21, 2022
Caring Without Carrying (Episode 202)

What is the difference between caring for someone and carrying their load for them? If your heart is feeling heavy, join us as we figure out the answer to that question together. 

Oct 20, 2022
A Little More: If I Give You This . . .

It’s hard to know what you are holding onto when it’s become a part of you. 

Oct 14, 2022
A Guide to Guarding Your Heart (Episode 201)

What does it really mean to guard your heart? We tackle this question and talk about how to be wise and warm, open but not overwhelmed, compassionate yet take care of ourselves too. 

Oct 13, 2022
A Little More: Trusting God While We Wait

We can find peace knowing that the same God who directs our paths, is the same God that directs our waiting. We can trust him even when it’s hard to wait. 

Oct 07, 2022
Embracing Trust (Episode 200)

Bestselling author Joanna Weaver joins us for a conversation about why trusting God can be tough and how we can embrace the freedom of surrender. 


Embracing Trust by Joanna Weaver

Oct 06, 2022
A Little More: God Overpowers Perfectionism

Do you ever struggle with the pressure to be perfect? Holley’s words will help you take a deep breath, remember truth, and live a little freer today. 


What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth

Sep 30, 2022
Living Unbroken After Divorce (Episode 199)

Have you or someone you love faced the pain of divorce? If so, you're not alone. Tracie Miles, author of Living Unbroken, shares her journey along with hopeful words and helpful insights.

Sep 29, 2022
A Little More: God Wants to Be With You

Show notes: God wants to be with you, not because of what you do but because he loves you.

Sep 23, 2022
Oops We Did it Again (Episode 198)

Have you ever told yourself, “I’ll never….again” only to find yourself repeating an old pattern? Yep, we’ve been there too. We talk about why that happens and what’s helpful. 

Sep 22, 2022
A Little More: Waiting is the Best Work

I’m not sure if anyone likes waiting on things, whether it’s food or open doors. Waiting is just hard. Our hope is found in believing that reaching out to God and seeking Him first will result in rewards for us personally that are worth waiting for. 

Sep 16, 2022
The Best of You (Episode 197)

God didn't create us to be doormats. How do we love others well while not losing ourselves in the process? Dr. Alison Cook shares strategies to help you develop your voice, set wise limits, and still be a loving person.

Sep 15, 2022
A Little More: No Condemnation

Because of the cross, there is now therefore no condemnation.

Subscribe to Suzie’s new podcast, Prayer Starters, on your favorite podcast platform or at

Sep 09, 2022
Trusting God in Hard Times (Episode 196)

How can you trust God when life doesn’t go the way you planned? We talk through how it’s okay to struggle and how we can get honest with God. 

Sep 08, 2022
A Little More: Forgiving Myself A Little More

The Freedom of God's Forgiveness

Sep 02, 2022
Trusting Yourself (Episode 195)

Sometimes the hardest person to trust is ourselves. Are we even supposed to trust ourselves? How do we do so? We talk through this tricky topic together.

Sep 01, 2022
A Little More: Learning to Trust Others

Building solid relationships based on trust feels a little risky when we have been hurt by others. Lean in as we share how learning to trust others can lead to healing and personal growth.

Aug 26, 2022
Rebuilding Trust (Episode 194)

Counselor Richard Eller joins us to share insights and practical advice about how to rebuild trust when you’ve hurt someone you love. 

Aug 25, 2022
A Little More: Let’s Be Trustworthy

How can we use our words to build trust with each other? Holley shares some thoughts and a commitment of words we can make together. 

Aug 19, 2022
When You Have Trust Issues (Episode 193)

Do you ever struggle with trust? Yep, us too. We talk through why trust can be hard, what healthy trust looks like, and we can grow in this area of our lives.

Aug 18, 2022
A Little More: Just Show Up

Showing up is a powerful and strong move. 

Aug 12, 2022
Heaviness to Joy (Episode 192)

What do you tend to pick up that God never asked you to carry? We talk about how to care without carrying, what joy really means, and how we can live lighter even in hard times.

Aug 11, 2022
A Little More: Letting Go to Move Forward

Actively reaching out to Jesus in your brokenness is the precursor to the intentional letting go of things in your past. Tackling the huge task of forgiving yourself and others leads to freedom and real healing that lasts. 

Aug 05, 2022
Controlling to Letting Go (Episode 191)

What do you like to control? We share three areas we struggle with (people, performance, progress), how uncertainty plays a role, and what helps us let go so we can embrace freedom instead. 

Aug 04, 2022
A Little More: Come Out of Hiding

Holley shares her personal struggle with anxiety and how when fear makes us want to hide, God’s love pursues our hearts so we can find healing. 

Jul 29, 2022
Anxiety to Inner Calm (Episode 190)

What triggers your anxiety? We share how there are two kinds of anxiety triggers, the difference between biblical and biological anxiety, and practical tips as well as spiritual truths that will help you have more peace today. 

Jul 28, 2022
A Little More: Letting Go

Letting go and finding the healing you deserve.

Resource: The Unburdened Heart by Suzanne Eller 

Jul 22, 2022
Striving to Sweet Relief (Episode 189)

Have you ever felt pressure to please God or people? Whew, us too. Kaitlin Garrison, author of Sweet Relief, joins us to share how she traded false beliefs for freedom- and how you can too.

Jul 21, 2022
A Little More: Sharing Our Hard Stories

Sharing the hard parts of our story isn't fun. But, when we do, we heal a little more and give others permission to do the same. Jennifer shares with us the hard part of her story dealing with seasonal depression.

Jul 15, 2022
It's Okay to Share Your Hard Story (Episode 188)

What keeps us from sharing our stories? How can we be safe spaces for others to share their stories too? We have a messy conversation about the power of words, supporting each other as women, and why speaking up can be healing. 

Jul 14, 2022
A Little More: Expectations

Are you struggling under the crushing weight of expectations? Holley shares why we can lay that burden down, and what we can pick up instead.

Jul 08, 2022
It's Okay to Stop Appeasing (Episode 187)

What’s the difference between truly pursuing peace and pleasing people? We have a messy conversation about what it really means to love others, why it can be hard to set boundaries, and we hear from listeners like you!

Jul 07, 2022
A Little More: I Pick You

If Jesus is the one choosing you, that’s sufficient. 

Jul 01, 2022
It's Okay to Question Authority (Episode 186)

We've recently seen a lot of leaders in news headlines. How do we know when to follow authority and when to push back? How do we do so in a way that's in alignment with the heart of Jesus? We have a messy and healing conversation about it all.

Jun 30, 2022
A Little More: Small is Where God Shows Up

Do you feel like you have nothing to offer? Sometimes we downplay what we bring to the table, believing that it’s not enough. But small is where God shows up and becomes the more we long for. 

Jun 24, 2022
It's Okay to be Mad (Episode 185)

Were you taught that good girls don’t get angry? We have a conversation about why we get angry, how it can be helpful, and what to watch out for when we do. 

Jun 23, 2022
A Little More: Overcoming Fear of the Future

What can you do today to keep from worrying about tomorrow? The Proverbs 31 Woman has a strategy that you can use too. Listen in as Holley shares it with you.

Jun 17, 2022