Team Deakins

By James Ellis Deakins, Roger Deakins

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The Team Deakins podcast is an ongoing conversation between acclaimed cinematographer Roger Deakins and James Deakins, his collaborator, about cinematography, the film business and whatever other questions are submitted. We start with a specific question and end....who knows where! We are joined by guests periodically. Followup questions can be posted in the forums at www.rogerdeakins.com.

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Jeff Nichols & Adam Stone - Director & Cinematographer Team
01:27:14

EPISODE 82 - JEFF NICHOLS, ADAM STONE - Director/Cinematographer Team

Team Deakins has a great conversation with the collaborative team of director Jeff Nichols and cinematographer Adam Stone. We learn about how they found each other, how they work together, and how that collaboration has grown over the years. They share their preference for shot lists over storyboards and their specificity when choosing locations (and how they drive the location department crazy!). Jeff, who also writes his projects, speaks of not adding camera direction in his scripts. We also talk about the difference in shooting for television and features and the different opportunities found in long-form storytelling. A great look at a close collaboration!

Jan 20, 2021
Larry Sher - Cinematographer
01:14:31

EPISODE 81 - LARRY SHER - Cinematographer

Team Deakins speaks with cinematographer Larry Sher. We learn a lot about his many experiences with Todd Philips, including the movies The Hangover and The Joker. We talk about how color is an integral part of his work and how he loves location shooting with the mixtures of light, and how important it is, early on, to settle on what evening, dusk, and sunset mean light-wise. He shares his thoughts on operating, shooting with two cameras, working on big movies, and the differences in shooting film or digital. A lot gets covered!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: The Hangover

Jan 17, 2021
Mary Zophres - Costume Designer
01:14:19

EPISODE 80 - MARY ZOPHRES - Costume Designer

Team Deakins sits down with Costume Designer, Mary Zophres for this episode. She shares how she works with actors, large amounts of extras, the production designer, and the DP. She describes the thrill of seeing the actor become the character in the fitting room. Camera tests are important since “your eye tells you different things than the lens does” and she tells some of the things she has discovered through camera tests. She also describes dressing Jeff Bridges on The Big Lebowski, researching First Man and her experience on La La Land. We learn a lot about how the costumes can add so much to the storytelling.

Jan 13, 2021
Harry Gruyaert - Still Photographer
01:06:56

EPISODE 79 - HARRY GRUYAERT - Still Photographer

Team Deakins speaks with the acclaimed stills photographer Harry Gruyaert. What a great conversation! We learn that when he started, he directed and shot for Flemish TV and he explains why he changed his path and became a stills photographer. He shares the importance of intuition in his work and finding your own way of seeing and style. We love what he does with color so we speak a lot about color and how he uses it, and he speaks of when he would use B&W over color. He also goes into detail about his early work in Morocco and how he relates to the subjects of his photographs. He shares what he was thinking when shooting specific shots and tells a wonderful story about his photo with the Magritte painting. He’s an artist that works for his own pleasure without concerning himself about how people will react and we certainly love the results he achieves!

Jan 10, 2021
Chris Miller & Phil Lord - Directors, Writers, Producers
01:07:07

EPISODE 78 - CHRIS MILLER & PHIL LORD - Directors, Writers, Producers

Team Deakins speaks with another long term collaborative team - Phil Lord and Chris Miller. We cover a lot of topics, including the difference between directing live-action and animation, how they work together, the biggest disagreement they’ve had, and the challenges of directing comedies. We learn about the making of Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, The Last Man on Earth TV series, and the process on Spiderman - Into the Spider-Verse. We also learn their take on the possibilities in animation. A really interesting look at a very successful collaborative team!

RECOMMENDED VIEWING: Last Man on Earth (TV), Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs

Jan 06, 2021
Ed Lachman - Cinematographer
01:16:34

EPISODE 77 - ED LACHMAN - Cinematographer

Team Deakins has a great conversation with Cinematographer, Ed Lachman. We talk about many things, including his working with Robby Mueller and what he learned from him, his feeling on operating the camera, and finding your language with the director. He also shares his working process with director Todd Haynes, with whom he has collaborated many times. We go into depth on the movie “Far from Heaven” (one of his collaborations with Todd) from finding the look, the inspiration from Douglas Sirk films, and the use of colors. We also touch on the differences in using gels with film & with digital, his choice of lens, getting the look he wanted in “Dark Waters” and working with Paul Schrader. And much, much more!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Far From Heaven

Jan 03, 2021
Mike Leigh & Dick Pope - Director & Cinematographer
01:16:08

EPISODE 76 - MIKE LEIGH & DICK POPE - Director & Cinematographer

Team Deakins has the pleasure of sitting down with the long time collaborative team of Mike Leigh and Dick Pope. What a great conversation! Mike shares with us his method of working and delineates the difference between his work and that of the directors John Cassavetes and Ken Loach. We learn the importance of having the right location and being able to return to the location during the course of the shoot. As the film is an “ongoing investigation” of what it will be according to Mike, Dick shares how amazing the experience is when he sees the blocked scene play out on location for the first time. Mike speaks on his way of working with actors. We also learn why on the film Peterloo, which involved a lot of scenes with a lot of extras and battles, they chose not to do storyboards. Both Mike and Dick talk about the specifics of their collaboration and how it has strengthened over years. A fascinating look into a very special relationship between a director and cinematographer.

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Secrets and Lies

Dec 30, 2020
John Wells - Director, Producer, Showrunner
01:03:37

EPISODE 75 - JOHN WELLS - Director, Producer, Showrunner

Team Deakins has a great conversation with John Wells, a director, producer, and showrunner of such television as ER, West Wing, Third Watch, Southland, and Shameless. John spells out the responsibilities of the position of showrunner on television, and we get to ask all the questions for which we’ve always wanted to know the answer! We learned a lot about the process in television series - how far in advance the scripts are done, the actors' ownership of their role, the importance of cinematographers in episodic TV. We also learned how much of the story is known at the start of the season and how the scripts change during the season. John also gives a thoughtful opinion on the effect of streaming on future moviemaking. We talk about writing a villain successfully, ensemble movies, and much, much more! Don’t miss this episode!

Dec 27, 2020
Adam Arkapaw - Cinematographer
01:10:52

EPISODE 74 - ADAM ARKAPAW - Cinematographer

Team Deakins catches up with cinematographer Adam Arkapaw. We learn a lot about the Australian film ANIMAL KINGDOM and how it was shot. Adam also tells us what he does during prep, how he works with a production designer and how he likes to give space to the actors. He also talked about something Andrew Lesnie once said to him and how it affected him. We also speak about how he chooses his projects, and his experiences on Macbeth, The King and True Detective. He shares his experiences in television and compared it to his film work. A fun episode with lots in it!

Dec 23, 2020
Rob Hardy - Cinematographer
01:39:13

EPISODE 73 - ROB HARDY - Cinematographer

Team Deakins sits down with English cinematographer, Rob Hardy for a great, in-depth conversation. We cover many subjects, including his work on Boy A with John Crowley, the experience of the movie, Red Riding, with Michael Winterbottom, and his frequent collaboration with Alex Garland. He also talks about working with a Steadicam, operating the camera, mixing light sources and his choice of lenses per project. We even get into his experience on Mission Impossible. And we don’t forget to talk about the series DEVs. It’s a special inside look at how he works and thinks. You don’t want to miss it!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Boy A, Devs, Ex Machina

Dec 20, 2020
"Biggles" John Higgins - Gaffer
01:10:52

EPISODE 72 - “BIGGLES” (JOHN HIGGINS) - Gaffer

Team Deakins sits down with Biggles (John Higgins, if you want to be formal) an accomplished gaffer that Roger has a long past with. Biggles talks about working with Ozzie Morris and different lighting styles. We get into a discussion about brute arcs, what they are, and the difference in the light they produce. Roger and Biggles reminisce on their experiences together on 1984, Mountains of the Moon, White Mischief and 1917. Biggles also shares some experiences with Chivo (Gravity) and Sven Nykvist and Richard Attenborough (Chaplin) and talks about how he works with DPs and the importance of trust. Of course, we talk about the big lighting rig on 1917 as well as the scenes lit only by the character’s torches (flashlights). We got into the subject of new technology in lighting and the importance of being realistic when choosing the lights to use for a project - if there are hostile conditions, far better to go with something dependable. A wide-reaching episode you won’t want to miss!

Dec 16, 2020
Dede Gardner - Co-President Plan B Entertainment
58:11

EPISODE 71 - DEDE GARDNER - Co-President Plan B Entertainment

Teams Deakins speaks with Plan B co-president, Dede Gardner. We talk about the careful selection by Plan B of the projects they choose and how the company’s goal is to protect the original intention of a film throughout the process. Dede tells us her process in choosing projects to back and that she chose to become a producer because it allowed her to spend the longest time on a project. We talk about the strange world we create when we shoot a movie and how each movie is a situation that doesn’t repeat. She speaks at length on her working relationship with Jeremy Kleiner, Plan B’s other co-president. We also covered the importance of recognizing when you are working on the wrong incarnation of a movie and the need to step back and start again. We also covered the movie Selma, working in television, balancing work and family, how important conviction and passion are and much more! So much information in one episode!!

Dec 13, 2020
Barry Ackroyd - Cinematographer
01:10:08


EPISODE 70 - BARRY ACKROYD - Cinematographer

Team Deakins sits down with esteemed cinematographer, Barry Ackroyd. We covered many topics, including his work with the director Ken Loach and Ken’s approach to moviemaking. We also learn about his work with Paul Greengrass and he tells us about how certain scenes were shot on United 93. Barry talks about lighting a space and how he enjoys limitations. We also talk about handheld operating and how he achieves what he does with a handheld camera and he shares his feelings about operating in general. He tells us how he chooses his projects, his thoughts on operating, his experience of working on Captain Phillips and his feelings about electronic viewfinders. A great conversation!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: United 93

Dec 09, 2020
Turning the Tables - No Country for Old Men
02:01:43

EPISODE 69 - TURNING THE TABLES - No Country for Old Men

Team Deakins has the tables turned on them! Cinematographer Greig Fraser and actor Josh Brolin ask the questions in this episode. We covered a lot about the movie and looked in detail at seven scenes in the movie. The conversation also went in some unplanned areas - we learned, among other things, how Greig hates the script slug line “evening”, what it was like working with Kelly McDonald, how important trust is when working on a film, and what the experience of shooting No Country for Old Men was like for Josh. Happy accidents, our favorite scene in the film, and the relationship between actor and DP were also talked about. And much, much more! There is a companion PDF for this episode that lists the clips we discussed and when they appear in the film. Don’t miss this special episode - there’s a lot in it. CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD PDF.

REQUIRED EPISODE VIEWING: No Country for Old Men

Dec 06, 2020
Anthony Dod Mantle - Cinematographer
01:21:48

Episode 68 - ANTHONY DOD MANTLE - Cinematographer

Team Deakins talks to talented cinematographer, Anthony Dod Mantle. We cover many subjects, including his work in documentaries and political films, his experiences in India, how he started with still photography and why he moved to motion picture, and his early experiences of focus pulling. He tells us at length his involvement with dogma films and what that means and how he likes to start from a new place for each film. He breaks down a lot of the shooting in the movie “The Command” and gives us the tip of how where you put the focus helps greatly in marrying different formats. A fascinating discussion with a great cinematographer!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: The Command

Dec 02, 2020
Dave Diliberto - Post Supervisor
01:15:42

EPISODE 67 - DAVE DILIBERTO - Post Supervisor

Team Deakins sits down with Dave Diliberto, long time friend and post supervisor. We talk about a lot of subjects, including his start with the Coen Brothers, the difference of working with the Coens and with other directors, and we go in to challenging post of the film “O Brother, Where Art Thou?”. We also speak of what super 35mm means in a film post and the difficulty involved in re-mastering titles. Dave leads us through mixing, the different deliverables on a project and his reaction to the phrase “We can fix that in Post”. A great look at what happens after the film is shot.

Nov 29, 2020
Andrey Zvyagintsev & Mikhail Krichman (Pt 2) - Director & Cinematographer
01:00:32

EPISODE 66 - ANDREY ZVYAGINTSEV & MIKHAIL KRICHMAN - Director & Cinematographer Team - Part 2

Team Deakins continues their epic conversation with Andrey Zvyagintsev and Mikhail Krichman, celebrated Russian collaborative team of director and cinematographer. This is the second part of a two part episode. We learn a lot about the shooting of the movie, Leviathan and the weather challenges they faced. Andrey shares that he doesn’t re-watch his films and also entertained us with the story of his very first experience shooting a 16mm film when he was young. He’s come a long way since then, let’s just say! We also speak about independent film financing in Russia vs state funded and their feelings on film vs digital. And Mikhail tells how Roger unknowingly participated on The Return! A great conversation with talented filmmakers!!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: The Return, The Banishment, Elena, Leviathan, Loveless

Nov 25, 2020
Andrey Zvyagintsev & Mikhail Krichman (Pt 1) - Director and Cinematographer Team
01:25:10

EPISODE 65 - ANDREY ZVYAGINTSEV & MIKHAIL KRICHMAN - Director & Cinematographer Team - Part 1

Team Deakins have an amazing conversation with the Russian collaborative team of Andrey Zvyagintsev and Mikhail Krichman. We have been avid fans of their films for years and so this was very special to us. Their films are: The Return, The Banishment, Elena, Leviathan and Loveless. We speak about so many things that we had to make two episodes from the result! In this episode we learn about their unique collaborative process of 20 years, their experiences on The Return, The Banishment and Elena. We speak about VFX, how Andrey works with his actors and how they battle unpredictable elements, like children and weather. A great conversation with true masters of filmmaking!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: The Return, The Banishment, Elena, Leviathan, Loveless

Nov 22, 2020
Jon Kilik - Getting the project off the ground
01:11:19

EPISODE 64 - JON KILIK - Getting the project off the ground

Team Deakins is happy to welcome producer Jon Kilik back again with a specific subject - how to get film projects off the ground. Because films are different, we look at the different ways you can move forward. Jon tells us about the need to be flexible without compromising the vision, how often compromises can be opportunities, and if you can’t bring the film’s operating price down, you might have to wait and do a smaller project first. He also walks us through the process of finding distribution for a film. We talk about how to deal with a project that is financed from many sources and how to structure this. He also touches on the weight a name actor adds to a project, how the process of filmmaking is making the project better everyday and dealing with stress. We’re so glad that Jon came back and delved into this subject with us!

Nov 18, 2020
Turning the Tables - The Assassination of Jesse James
01:20:49

EPISODE 63 - TURNING THE TABLES - The Assassination of Jesse James

The tables get turned on Team Deakins in this episode with Greig Fraser asking us the questions, focusing on the film “The Assassination of Jesse James”. Greig asks questions on 7 clips of the film. There is a companion pdf with this episode (see the link below) that lists the approximate time these clips appear in the movie with images of the first and last frames. We get into specific breakdowns of these shots as well as talking about the experience of working with the director, the lyric nature of the book and how that influenced the film as well as the incredible music track from composer Nick Cave. Greig had done his homework and had plenty of questions for us! He led us through a great discussion of this film. Click here to download the companion pdf.

RECOMMEND EPISODE VIEWING: The Assassination of Jesse James

Nov 15, 2020
Dodd Vickers - Location Scout/Manager
01:09:12

EPISODE 62 - DODD VICKERS - Location Scout/Location Manager

Team Deakins again looks into the complexities of locations in the scheme of production. We talk with Dodd Vickers who shares with us how to find locations, things that have to be considered for locations and working with the budget. He also talks about how he needs to get into the director’s head, how the location department are the ambassadors of the film and the importance of getting to know the location neighborhood and the people living there. We also touch on reusing locations, remembering logistics when looking for locations and the difference in locations for film and TV. And much more!!

Nov 11, 2020
Jason Hall - Writer, Director
01:16:21

EPISODE 61 - JASON HALL - Writer, Director

Team Deakins has a great conversation in this episode with writer and director, Jason Hall. He takes us through the experience of writing the script for American Sniper. He literally had to wrestle for it! He talks about finding the story and dealing with the changes in the script during the course of find its way to the screen. He also walks us through the making of Thank You for Your Service, a movie that is a favorite of ours. We talked about how he approached it as a first time director and how he prepped for the movie. We learn about the casting of the movie and that he worked to surround the actors with things that resonate the truth. And the very important piece of advice that Taylor Hackford gave him during the editing period. He also talks about working with Spielberg, balancing commercial appeal with a meaningful story and the idea of directing a script he hasn’t written. We covered a lot of ground!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Thank you for your Service

Nov 08, 2020
Billy O'Leary - Gaffer
01:07:36

EPISODE 60 - BILLY O’LEARY - Gaffer

Team Deakins sits down with frequent collaborator and friend, gaffer Billy O’Leary. It’s a wonderful walk down memory lane and we learned a lot too! He defines the role of gaffer and walks through what he does in prep and how he works with different DPs. He also talks about his love of NOT relying on big lights and working up lighting gags. He likes restrictions and having to think outside of the box. He talks about some specifics on Shawshank Redemption, Bladerunner 2049, Hudsucker Proxy, Barton Fink and Fargo. When asked what his gaffer’s nightmare is, he not only told us but let us know it was a waking nightmare - he did experience it! A fun and informative conversation that we think you’ll like!

Nov 04, 2020
Jon Kilik - Producer
01:15:55

EPISODE 59 - JON KILIK - Producer

We had the great pleasure of sitting down with Jon Kilik, a producer we’ve had the pleasure of working with. He clued us in on a few subjects - whey there are so many producers on projects, how the producer credit has been devalued, and the difference in the producer roles in movies and TV. We learned that there’s always a way to figure out how to get a movie made and how he chooses projects. He also shared his experiences of working with Spike Lee with whom he has been a frequent collaborator. And that’s just a few of the subjects we got into! A great episode you won’t want to miss!

Nov 01, 2020
Joel Edgerton - Actor, Director
01:12:15

EPISODE 58 - JOEL EDGERTON - Actor, Director

Team Deakins has a great conversation with Joel Edgerton about his craft as an actor, director, and writer. We learn why heroes should have a bit of villain in them, finding fun in every character and what he considers when choosing projects. We talk about his work with his brother, Nash Edgerton, what an intricate puzzle fundraising for a project is in Australia, the creative solutions in moviemaking in response to restrictions, and what he likes in both big-budget movies and smaller budget movies. He shared that he likes characters who make a mistake and have to opportunity to right and either do or don’t. We also talk about his role as a director and how it differs from being an actor on set. We talked about so much more - you’ll just have to listen to the episode!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: The Gift

Oct 28, 2020
Turning The Tables - Shawshank Redemption
01:36:23

EPISODE 57 - TURNING THE TABLES - Shawshank Redemption

In this episode, we get the tables turned upon us! Greig Fraser leads the conversation and asks US the questions. He starts by diving into our collaboration process and then moves onto the movie SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION. In addition, he chose 5 clips from the movie to discuss. We list and describe the clip in an accompanying PDF file for this episode that can be accessed by the link below. We also strayed from the movie discussion to talk about choosing the format of a movie, why one shoots anamorphic, choosing the camera for 1917, the pressure on the DP when trying to wait for the right light and the joy of seeing the performance as you are shooting. It’s a fun episode which Greig skillfully leads. Don’t miss it. Use this link to download the PDF file.

REQUIRED EPISODE VIEWING: Shawshank Redemption

 

Oct 25, 2020
Thomas Newman - Composer
01:15:24

EPISODE 56 - THOMAS NEWMAN - Composer

Team Deakins sits with Tom Newman and learns lots about the world of the composer. He tells us about learning to be a collaborator, his experience with directors like Robert Altman and Sam Mendes, how he deals with last minute editorial changes after the music has been composed and the difference between composing for Live Action and Animation. He also speaks of working in television, how binge watching changed theme music on TV shows, the musical challenge on the film, 1917 and his feeling that creativity is chaotic. And that’s only scratching the surface of what we got into during the conversation! A great episode with a talented composer!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: 1917, Shawshank Redemption

Oct 21, 2020
Rachel Morrison - Cinematographer
01:12:40

EPISODE 55 - RACHEL MORRISON - Cinematographer

Team Deakins converses with cinematographer Rachel Morrison in this episode. She speaks on many subjects - telling us about working with director Ryan Coogler, how the way she works with the gaffer differs on features and TV, her like of imperfection. She also shares that she strives to share as much information as possible when working, including sharing the look book with her crew. We learn about the shooting of MUDBOUND and the challenges on that film. And a lot more! A great episode!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Mudbound

Oct 18, 2020
Ed Solomon - Writer
01:28:20

EPISODE 54 - ED SOLOMON - Writer

Team Deakins talks with writer Ed Solomon in this episode. We learned a lot about the craft of writing! Ed talks about the differences in writing for TV and features, writing on spec versus adapting material, writers block, and how his script of the original Bill and Ted changed his career. He also shares the experiences of working with Gary Shandling, making writing “actable”, loving the blank page and writing for Steven Soderbergh. He speaks openly on all aspects of writing which makes this a very interesting episode!

Oct 14, 2020
Joe Reidy, Assistant Director
01:24:00

EPISODE 53 - JOE REIDY - Assistant Director

Team Deakins speaks with an amazing AD, Joe Reidy. He leads us through the many aspects of the role of Assistant Director - from Scheduling, his prep, AD breakdown, dealing with extras and his relationship with the line producer and creative producer. He speaks of working with specific directors, such as Marty Scorcese, Sidney Lumet and Oliver Stone. He delineates the various positions in the AD department and feels that “running the set is setting the tone”. Everything you wanted to know about the role of the AD and more!! An information packed episode!

Oct 11, 2020
Patrice Vermette - Production Designer
01:11:05

EPISODE 52 - PATRICE VERMETTE - Production Designer

Teams Deakins enjoys a great conversation with Production Designer, Patrice Vermette. He goes through his working process and talks about his relationship with the Director and DP. He shares his opinion on building sets or using locations, color palettes, and the traits he likes in a director and DP. He gets specific about his work on the movies: Enemy and Sicario. He also speaks of what he wants from his team and the filmmaking community in Montreal. We had hoped to finally get an explanation of the ending of the movie Enemy, but were disappointed once again! Despite that, there’s still great information in this episode so don’t miss it!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Sicario

Oct 07, 2020
Andrew Patterson - Director
01:15:26

EPISODE 51 -ANDREW PATTERSON - Director

Team Deakins was excited to talk with emerging director, Andrew Patterson. After seeing his debut film, VAST OF NIGHT, we knew we wanted to talk with him. He leads us through the long path of getting his movie made, talks about his casting and the very interesting cadence of the dialogue of the film. He also speaks about wanting to make a movie that doesn’t start to looked aged but the look stays contemporary and what he did to achieve that. He also shares how he maximized his resources, what his first hires were and what he learned from his first film. A really interesting conversation with a very interesting filmmaker!

REQUIRED EPISODE VIEWING: The Vast of Night

Oct 04, 2020
Josh Brolin - Actor
01:22:13

EPISODE 50 - JOSH BROLIN - Actor

Team Deakins sits down with long time friend, actor Josh Brolin. We learned so much from him - how going into law is similar to being an actor (who knew?) and how acting is like golf (learned something new!). He also tells us how his interest in human behavior drew him to acting and he shares the very funny story of his audition for NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN. He speaks of his experiences working with the Coen Brothers, he tells us what was involved in his THE AVENGERS role and shares how he was convinced to do SICARIO. He also goes into how he relates with the camera crew, his prep for films and how he uses instagram as a platform for his prose. And that’s only a part of what we talked about! Don’t miss it!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: No Country for Old Men

Sep 30, 2020
Nicoletta Mani - Script Supervisor
01:04:46

EPISODE 49 - NICOLETTA MANI - Script Supervisor

Team Deakins has the pleasure of talking with Nicoletta Mani, script supervisor, with whom they worked on the film 1917. We get the chance to discover the wide range of this role in production from the breakdown of the script, day breakdown, script timing, editor notes, continuity and much more. We learn how the script supervisor acts as a conduit to the Editor and their relationship to the director and the other departments. We also talked about handling a shoot with multiple units and multiple cameras. We delved into continuity and when it matters and when it doesn’t. Nicoletta leads us through the different aspects to the job of script supervisor - a very informative episode!

Sep 27, 2020
Rob Legato - VFX Supervisor
01:22:04

EPISODE 48 - ROB LEGATO - VFX Supervisor

Team Deakins speaks with VFX Supervisor, Rob Legato. He walks us through some of the changes in VFX over the years and is quite vocal on his feelings on the different approaches - CG effects or model work. We learned a lot about his work on Jungle Book, The Lion King, Titanic and Apollo 13. We even talked about shooting 3D versus converting afterwards. Rob also told us his thoughts of the future of CG. A lot of information in this episode!

Sep 23, 2020
Tim Robbins - Actor, Director
01:03:31

EPISODE 47 - TIM ROBBINS - Actor

Team Deakins has a great conversation with actor, director (and punk rocker, as you learn in the episode!), Tim Robbins. Tim shares a lot of his thoughts on acting, the importance of “generous actors” and how fame can lead you astray. We learn about overcoming the temptation to take a job for the wrong reasons and the importance of patience when choosing your work. He tells us about his experience of working with Bob Altman, Clint Eastwood and Ron Shelton. We talk about his directing experiences and how directing made him a better actor. The movie “Easy Rider” even comes into the discussion! A fascinating conversation you won’t want to miss!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: 5 Corners, Bull Durham, Bob Roberts

Sep 20, 2020
Ed Zwick- Director
01:05:04

EPISODE 46 - ED ZWICK - Director

Team Deakins has the opportunity in this episode to sit down with director, writer, producer Ed Zwick and discuss a wide range of subjects. Ed tells us what is important to him as a director and why he thinks scale is important in a movie. He also speaks of the value of finding the action on the set rather than trying to set it beforehand either with pre-vis or storyboards. We talk about casting and he shares some examples of working with actors. He also speaks on what he thinks is the difference between film and television production as well as his belief that movies can make a difference. It is a great discussion with a passionate filmmaker and not one that you’d want to miss!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Courage under Fire, The Siege

Sep 16, 2020
Jake Gyllenhaal - Actor
01:29:03

EPISODE 45 - JAKE GYLLENHAAL - Actor

Team Deakins had the opportunity to sit and talk with long time friend, actor Jake Gyllenhal for this episode. Jake speaks about his relationship with directors and with cinematographers. We speak about his work in Donnie Darko and Prisoners, as well as Jarhead and Wildlife. He speaks about how, as an actor, the final result is always in other people’s hands. He also shares how important the collaboration between actor and cinematographer is and the importance of creating a “safe place” for the actor in front of the camera. Although we were hoping he would explain the end of the movie Enemy (and he said he would!), we finished the episode without knowing any more! And we also got into the craft of building sand castles! A really fun conversation that gave us an insight into the world of an actor! Don’t miss it!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Donnie Darko, Jarhead

Sep 13, 2020
Franz Kraus - Pt 2 - Arriflex
57:33

EPISODE 44 - FRANZ KRAUS Part 2 - Arriflex

This is part 2 with Franz Kraus. We continue our conversation with Franz about all things digital. We talk lens, camera, the Trinity rig, viewfinders, the M camera (precursor of the Mini) and what might be coming in the future. A great chance to get all of those digital questions out into the open! It was an amazing experience to pick the brain of a person behind the development of digital technology.

Sep 09, 2020
Franz Kraus - Pt 1 - Arriflex
57:14

EPISODE 43 - FRANZ KRAUS Part 1 - Arriflex

Team Deakins sits down with Franz Kraus of Arriflex who has overseen most of the company’s digital visual advancements. We learn the history and progression into digital technology. He also walks us through the greater importance of dynamic range vs resolution. We learn how the sensor size affects the relationship between lens and subject. We speak about the Arri 65 camera as well as the LF camera. And much more! Franz was so generous with his knowledge that we have to split our session into two episodes!! It’s a great deep dive into digital technology!

Sep 06, 2020
KK Barrett - Production Designer
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EPISODE 42 - KK BARRETT - Production Designer

Team Deakins sits down with KK Barnett, production designer. It’s a great opportunity to delve into the job of the production designer and all it entails. We go into depth about how he works with the DP and the Director. He illustrates his process by talking specifically about scenes in Being John Malkovich, Where the Wild Things Are, and Adaptation. We talk about the difference in designing from an original script or a script based on a book. He shares his process of breaking down a script and offers advice to those starting out. We even talk about the proverbial “Telephone Box” set. An episode with a lot of information about production design!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Being John Malkovich, Marie Antoinette

Sep 02, 2020
Paul Dano & Zoe Kazan - Actors, Writers, Director
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EPISODE 41 - PAUL DANO & ZOE KAZAN -Actors, writers & director

Team Deakins has the pleasure of speaking with another couple in the film business. Both are actors and writers and Paul has also directed. We talk a lot about the experience of being an actor and they articulately discuss the difference between acting for the stage and for film. We talk about the experience of being a couple in the same business and working together. Zoe shares how her writing allows her acting to be more personal and how hard it is to write a project and then let it go once it is picked up to be made. We had the opportunity to ask Paul many questions on his wonderful debut film as a director, “WILDLIFE”. We also touched on actors and their awareness of the camera, actors and continuity, their pet peeves about actors and how they choose their projects. Zoe speaks about working with the Coen Brothers and Paul speaks about working with Denis Villeneuve. We cover a lot of ground in this episode!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Wildlife, The Ballad of Buster Scruggs

Aug 30, 2020
Sona Pak & Guillaume Rocheron - VFX Producer & Supervisor
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EPISODE 40 - SONA PAK & GUILLAUME ROCHERON - VFX Producer & Supervisor

Team Deakins dives into the world of VFX. We speak with a VFX Producer and a VFX Supervisor. So the first question we get to settle is who does what. We also look into things like, the advantages and disadvantages of working with multiple vendors, how to keep a continuity of look when so many people are working on a shot, face replacement in shots, how what is a VFX shot and what isn’t is decided, the importance of knowing the different strengths of the various VFX houses and how the post schedule can contract. And that’s just a few of the points we touch on. It’s a large subject and it was great to speak with two such talented people!

Aug 26, 2020
Hoyte van Hoytema - Cinematographer
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EPISODE 39 - HOYTE VAN HOYTEMA - Cinematographer

Team Deakins talks with celebrated cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema for a fascinating conversation. He shares his experience of working with directors, Christopher Nolan and David O Russell. He talks about the value of shooting as much as possible in camera and how he approaches lenses, often creating a set specifically for a movie. We learn about how working with Christopher Nolan the second time on Dunkirk was different and he goes into detail on shooting in IMAX, talking about the pros and cons. He also shares his opinions on working with a large budget and a small budget. And there’s plenty more. You don’t want to miss this!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Dunkirk, Ad Astra, Interstellar

Aug 23, 2020
Jeb Brody - President of Productions, Amblin Studios
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EPISODE 38 - JEB BRODY - Pres of Production, Amblin Studios

Team Deakins sits down with Jeb Brody, the president of production at Amblin Studios and learn a lot about the studio side of production. Jeb walks us through so much - the difference between a studio exec and a producer, the relationship between the filmmakers and the studios, the differences between the studios and the movies they make. We discuss what kind of films are getting made these days, look at the difference of negative pickup and acquisition, and why the bad behaviors of filmmakers in the ’70s no longer works. We worked with Jeb on 1917 and get into that as well. And we learn from the studio’s point of view what the growth of streaming means for moviemaking. We even got into the “dark arts of filmmaking” (you’ll have to listen to learn about this!). We’ve never had the opportunity to sit with the studio and ask them all our questions so we had a great time! Don’t miss it if you want to learn everything on the studio side!

Aug 19, 2020
Laura Metcalfe - DI Producer
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EPISODE 37 - LAURA METCALFE - DI Producer/Finishing Producer

Team Deakins looks into the final step of making a movie - the DI. While previously called the “DI Producer” since when it started it was all about the DI (“Digital Intermediate”), because the process has become so complex, you’ll hear the role referred to as “Finishing Producer”. We speak with Laura Metcalfe of Company 3 in London who worked with us on “1917”. We talk about when this role actually starts on a movie (much earlier than you might think!) and talk at length about setting up workflows that continue until the film finishes. We also go into detail with Laura about the very bespoke workflow on “1917” and the challenges it presented. We also walk through some of the deliverables of a film (the different formats that are made), how the dailies timing differs from the DI timing and the steps to setting up a DI. And, of course, much more! A very detailed look at post!

Aug 16, 2020
Linus Sandgren - Cinematographer
01:29:37

EPISODE 36 - LINUS SANDGREN - Cinematographer

Team Deakins sits down for a conversation with cinematographer, Linus Sandgren. “I love the creation of the image.” We cover a lot of ground in our talk and touch on, among other things, Swedish films and sensibilities, working minimally, how important it is to find the right approach for each movie. He also goes into detail about how he develops the look with the director. He tells us about working with David O Russell and does a deep dive on the making of FIRST MAN which you don’t want to miss! And finally, of course, we talk a bit about shooting a Bond movie. A fascinating conversation with a talented image-maker!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: First Man, 6 Souls

Aug 12, 2020
Joe Walker - Editor
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EPISODE 35 - JOE WALKER - Editor

Team Deakins speaks with friend and two time collaborator, editor Joe Walker. We get an interesting look into the changes in the techniques of cutting between now and when Joe started. We talk about where the cutting style of the movie comes from, when a sound editor comes in and what they, test screenings - pros and cons. We also touch on the editing in Sicario, 12 Years a Slave and Shame. We do get into what crossing the line is and what you can get away with continuity-wise. And we even share our personal work-related nightmares! It’s an episode packed with information that you won’t want to miss!

Aug 09, 2020
John Lindley - Cinematographer
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EPISODE 34 - JOHN LINDLEY - Cinematographer

Team Deakins speaks with John Lindley, cinematographer and president of camera local 600. We talk about documentaries and what working on them gives you - both personally (it “enlarges your life”) and skill-wise. We also talk about handling the pressure on the set tin the role of dp and how to oversee the people you’re working with and getting the best out of them. The difference between working in TV and on features is also looked at. We also learn about unions and the camera union.

Aug 05, 2020
Joel Coen - Director
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EPISODE 33 - JOEL COEN - Director

Here’s the episode you’ve all been waiting for! Team Deakins sits down with long time collaborator, director Joel Coen. A great conversation that covers aspects of their experiences together as well as the importance of collaboration and letting go of defensiveness. Of course we talk about storyboards and their place in the process as well as the power of editing. We talk about the importance of casting and the way he works with actors. As well as the fact that not having a large budget can be a blessing. Joel is an incredible filmmaker and it’s amazing to hear him speak on the craft of making films. Be sure not to miss this one!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: True Grit (2010), The Man Who Wasn’t There (2001)

 

Aug 02, 2020
Dick Pope - Cinematographer
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EPISODE 32 - DICK POPE - Cinematographer

Team Deakins has an entertaining conversation with cinematographer, Dick Pope who also happens to be a long time friend. We talk about his start in film, his work in documentaries and his long term collaboration with director Mike Leigh. Along the way, we also touch on the importance of trust between DP & Director, working with keys that you don’t know and in particular how he works with gaffers. We touch a bit on operating and even end up with a bit on film vs digital, although we weren’t planning on going there! It’s a fascinating episode and we promise you will laugh during parts!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: Any Mike Leigh film

Jul 29, 2020
Pete Franciosa - Agent
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EPISODE 31 - PETE FRANCIOSA - Agent

Team Deakins talk with Pete Franciosa, head of production at UTA talent agency. We talk about what an agent does, how to get an agent, what “packaging” is, how he choses people to represent, the differences between the agencies and lots more! It’s an interesting look inside the talent agency.

Jul 26, 2020
Alex Webb - Still Photographer
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EPISODE 30 - Alex Webb - Stills Photographer

Team Deakins does something different with this episode. We took the opportunity to talk to an extraordinary visual talent who is NOT a part of movie production. He is a well known still photographer and someone we are great admirers of. It was great to talk with him about his work, what he thinks is important in photographer, how he approaches his work, the importance of color in his work, what pictures can mean and the role of serendipity in great photographs. It’s an immersive dive into creating visuals.

Jul 22, 2020
Greig Fraser - Cinematographer
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EPISODE 29 - GREIG FRASER - Cinematographer

Team Deakins sits down with friend and fellow DP, Greig Fraser. We cover a lot ground in this episode starting with Volume lighting - how it works, how it effects the way that you work, the advantages and disadvantages. He tells us what attributes he feels are key in a director and how he feels about operating. We learn his secret desire to shoot a musical and we dive into the undiscussed subject of why wrap parties are hard and often avoided. And there’s more! A fun and informative episode.



RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: The Mandalorian (TV-2019)

Jul 19, 2020
Gary Hymns - Key Grip (UK)
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EPISODE 28 - GARY HYMNS - Key Grip

This is part 2 of a two part episode series where Team Deakins talks key grips. This episode features a very renown British key grip who walks us through the British system of gripping. Because he worked with us on 1917, we delve into the details of how certain shots were accomplished in that film as well as learning details from some of his other films. You’ll understand why there was a lot laughing on the set of 1917 after hearing his humorous commentary!

RECOMMENDED EPISODE VIEWING: 1917

Jul 16, 2020
Mitch Lillian - Key Grip (US)
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EPISODE 27 - MITCH LILLIAN - Key Grip

This is part 1 of a two part episode series where Team Deakins talks to key grips - one American, one British. Team Deakins discusses with these talented technicians how the very different systems work for grips in the states and the UK and how there responsibilities change between the countries and even between the states in the US! Mitch shares with us the challenges of gripping and how he figures out how to do what he is so good at doing! If you’ve ever wondered exactly what a grip does on a motion picture production, these two episodes will fill you in!

Jul 15, 2020
Bill Pope
01:28:13

EPISODE 26 - BILL POPE - Cinematographer

Team Deakins has the pleasure of talking with talented cinematographer, Bill Pope. He’s shot so many wonderful films, including The Matrix series, The Jungle Book, Clueless, Baby Driver and many more. A fun discussion on the many aspects of filmmaking, and how certain films were made. We learn how some of the fantastic visuals of The Matrix came to be and some of the techniques used in making the Jungle Book. The conversation also looks into the relationship of the DP with the VFX team, the importance of preparation and what the personal experience of filmmaking can be. Bill is not only talented but very articulate so it’s an episode you don’t want to miss!

RECOMMENDED VIEWING: Bound, The Matrix

Jul 12, 2020
Denis Villeneuve - Director
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EPISODE 25 - DENIS VILLENEUVE - Director.

Team Deakins spends some time talking with their friend and frequent collaborator, the brilliant director Denis Villeneuve. We covered many topics including Denis’ start in the business, his early films, what filmmaking means to him and the special collaboration we share. We also examine why certain shots seem to work and what the steps were to get there. A great conversation with a talented artist!

RECOMMENDED VIEWING: Incendies, Sicario

Jul 08, 2020
Wilson Webb - Still Photographer
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EPISODE 24 - WILSON WEBB- Still & Set Photographer.

Team Deakins welcomes the great still and set photographer, Wilson Webb to the Podcast this week. Wilson has worked with us on numerous films and really is one of the best at what he does. Some of his credits include Marriage Story, Baby Driver, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, Prisoners, True Grit and many more! We discuss the role of a set photographer, how to shoot posters for a film and we even get his opinion on the new wave of digital cameras. An episode for anyone interested in photography or filmmaking alike!

Jul 05, 2020
Clayton Townsend - Producer
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EPISODE 23 - CLAYTON TOWNSEND - Producer. Team Deakins shares an enlightening conversation with esteemed producer, Clayton Townsend. His openness in sharing the details of the wide reaching job of a producer makes for a very interesting episode. Listen to learn the many responsibilities of a producer, the difference between various producer roles and the balance between his responsibilities to the studio and the director. A very important role in filmmaking and Clayton walks us through it!

Jul 01, 2020
Carlos Zaragoza - Production Designer
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EPISODE 22 - CARLOS ZARAGOZA - PRODUCTION DESIGNER
Team Deakins welcomes Carlos Zaragoza, a unique guest who has the experience of working in the Art Department on both live action and animated films. Having worked on films like Pan’s Labyrinth, Madagascar 3, Trolls and the upcoming animated film ‘Vivo’, we discuss how he combined his love of painting and art with a background in theatre to discover the world of art department and production design. We also explore the role of a production designer on set, how it differs on animated films and why his role on an animated film can sometimes take up to four years!

Jun 28, 2020
John Crowley - Director
01:17:41

Team Deakins sits down with friend and collaborator, John Crowley, director of such films as Boy A, Brooklyn, and The Goldfinch. We do a deep dive into the craft of storytelling and directing. John eloquently shares with us his thoughts on directing and the challenges he faces on set. We look at how you tell a story in film, the power of the human face in the closeup, what differences the budget makes, working with actors and the pleasure of the entire filmmaking process. We also talk about Boy A, an early film of John’s, which is a favorite film of ours. A great discussion with a passionate filmmaker.

Jun 24, 2020
Charlie Rizek- Trinity & Steadicam Operator
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EPISODE 20 - CHARLIE RIZEK
Team Deakins is joined by 1917 collaborator, Charlie Rizek, the trinity and steadicam operating magician who lent his skills to help make possible the idea of a “one shot” movie. We talk about how he got into the business, why he was attracted to the movement of the camera, how the trinity worked on 1917 and why movement isn’t always necessary in a shot. A very talented individual with a bright future ahead!

Jun 21, 2020
Joachim ("JZ") Zell - Color Scientist
01:06:10

EPISDOE 19 - JOACHIM ("JZ") ZELL - Color Scientist. Team Deakins sit down with JZ and dig deeply into the color science of it all. We talk LUTs, resolution, color space, pixels, work flow and lots more. He really knows his stuff!’

Jun 17, 2020
Sam Mendes - Director
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EPISODE 18 - SAM MENDES  Team Deakins has a fun, free flowing conversation with frequent collaborator, friend, and the Oscar and Tony Award winning Director: Sam Mendes. Spending 15 years as a Theatre Director, Sam made his foray into filmmaking with his award winning debut of American Beauty. He went on to direct a total of nine films in the ensuing years, including; Road to Perdition, Jarhead, Skyfall, Spectre and 1917. Sam discusses his journey from theatre to film, the differences between the two roles and what he sees as the most important aspects of being a Director. We discuss elements of story, how editing builds tension, and why the idea of a one shot film is much more than meets the eye. A true masterclass between two cinema legends.

Jun 14, 2020
LEE KLINE - Restoration of Films
01:08:46

Episode 17 - LEE KLINE - Film Restoration. Team Deakins is joined by Criterion’s Technical Director of Restoration; Lee Kline. Lee has overseen the restoration of hundreds of films during his tenure at Criterion and undoubtedly left an impact on history of Cinema, allowing both audiences and future filmmakers alike the ability to enjoy classic titles for years to come. The group discusses the immense work that goes into restoring a film, the detective work of finding rare works and how they work with filmmakers to ensure the quality of the restorations.  

Jun 10, 2020
Donald Mowat - Makeup
01:00:21

EPISODE 16 - DONALD MOWAT - Inside the craft of makeup. Team Deakins has the pleasure of learning the ins and outs of the makeup department in films. We learn what this department brings to the film, how strong the collaboration is, different types of approaches and how to get started in the field. Who better to cover these subjects than the extremely talented Donald Mowat?

Jun 07, 2020
Peter Ramsey - Spider-Man:Into the Spider-Verse
57:08

Episode 15 - PETER RAMSEY Team Deakins is joined by Acadamy Award Winning Director Peter Ramsey. The conversation begins with how Peter came up in the industry, his love of storyboarding and reading, and how his voracious appetite for knowledge lead him to opportunities in Hollywood. Having started out in live-action and transitioning to Animation, we discuss the differences in the two, and why someday soon he could be back on live sets. We also dive into his Oscar-winning efforts in Directing Spiderman: Into the Spider-Verse and the many challenges they faced to ensure this film was unlike anything ever seen! The conversation is one not to miss for any filmmakers!

Jun 03, 2020
FIONA WEIR - Casting Director
59:55

Episode 14 - FIONA WEIR - Casting Director. Team Deakins speaks with renown Fiona Weir and learns the ins and outs of casting. A specialty often hidden from the day to day shooting process and yet so important. Fiona lets us know how it's done!

May 31, 2020
Josh Gollish DIT
01:16:57

Episode 13 - JOSH GOLLISH DIT - Join us as we speak with #Teamdeakins member Josh Gollish, our DIT - Digital Image Technician. We talk all things DIT, from where the role originated, what Josh does on set from day to day, how some productions work without

May 27, 2020
Animation - Dean DeBlois
01:02:15

Team Deakins is joined by the incredibly talented Dean DeBlois , a writer director with credits like Mulan, Lilo & Stitch, and all three How to Train Your Dragon movies. He takes us through his journey as a filmmaker, sharing his knowledge about story

May 24, 2020
George MacKay
01:25:16

Episode 11 - GEORGE MACKAY. James & Roger catch up with actor George MacKay with whom they worked on the film "1917". They talk about the shared process of "1917", George's experience on his most recent film on Ned Kelly and his process as an actor. G

May 20, 2020
Animation - Part 2
59:22

Episode 10 - ANIMATION PART 2 - YONG DUK JHUN & ANDY HARKNESS. Team Deakins is joined by two acclaimed filmmakers, Yong Duk Jhun and Andy Harkness. Masters of their craft, they serve as head of Layout and Head of Lighting respectively. They have worked on such films as Kung Fu Panda, Moana, The Croods, Shrek and Zootopia. The conversation ranges from the actual process of getting an Animated film off the ground, to specifics in lighting, composition, and the technology behind it all. A fascinating episode and something filmmakers of all backgrounds will enjoy.

May 17, 2020
Learning Lighting
46:14

Episode 9 - Learning Lighting. We talk about lighting in this episode. Different styles of lighting, challenges in lighting and how to experiment to broaden your grasp on lighting.

May 13, 2020
Animation
47:00

Episode 8 - ANIMATION - PART 1. This episode looks at our experiences on animation projects as visual consultants. We'll then dive deeper into the actual process in Part 2 and finally, in Part 3, talk with Dean DeBlois, director of the three How to Train your Dragon. There's so much to examine in Animation, don't be surprised if there is a Part 4 in the future!

May 10, 2020
Lens Choice
44:15

Episode 7 - LENS CHOICE - In this episode, we talk about what goes into choosing lenses for your project and the aesthetic differences between lenses. We also discuss prime lenses vs zooms and how we go about testing lenses. And more!

May 06, 2020
Bev Wood - Journey from Film to Digital
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Episode 6 - Beverly Wood - From Film to Digital. We speak with Beverly Wood, former Executive VP at Deluxe and Managing Director at eFilm. We discuss the transition in Hollywood from Film to Digital with one of the industries foremost experts on the science behind it all. We discuss how film emulsion actually works, color science, her work with Roger and James, and films like SkyFall, O Brother, Where Art Thou and more.

She's been with us through our journey from film to digital and is a great source of information in general!

https://www.rogerdeakins.com/episode-6/

May 03, 2020
Composition
53:47

Episode 5 - COMPOSITION. Roger, James and Matt look at the subject of composition, the role it plays in storytelling, how composition differs in still images vs moving images.   https://www.rogerdeakins.com/episode-5/

Apr 30, 2020
Practical Lighting
30:48

Episode 4: PRACTICAL LIGHTING - James and Roger discuss practical lighting - what it means, the additional challenges and why you might prefer to use practicals for a scene.   https://www.rogerdeakins.com/episode-4/

Apr 28, 2020
Location Scouting
30:48

Episode 3: LOCATION SCOUTING - In this episode we talk about the ins and outs of location scouting.  As always, a special thanks to our collaborator, Matt Wyman.   https://www.rogerdeakins.com/episode-3/

Apr 27, 2020
Working Together
38:37

Episode 2 - WORKING TOGETHER - Roger and James talk about their collaboration. Matt Wyman joins them.   https://www.rogerdeakins.com/episode-2/

Apr 26, 2020
Beginnings
56:15

Episode 1: BEGINNINGS - Roger and James talk about the journey that brought them into the film business. We are joined by Matt Wyman. https://www.rogerdeakins.com/episode-1/

Apr 25, 2020