Let's Talk

By Jackie Hill Perry, Melissa Kruger, Jasmine Holmes

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Let’s Talk is a podcast for women from The Gospel Coalition Podcast Network. On each episode, Jackie Hill Perry, Melissa Kruger, and Jasmine Holmes talk about a different topic and how to apply biblical wisdom to everyday life.

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'Thou Shall Not Judge'
00:44:07

"Judgmental" is a negative descriptor in our culture, but the same culture holds some values so deeply that it "cancels" anyone who disregards them. And while cancel culture can bring great harm, it's existence points to the fact that not all judgment is bad. Jasmine Holmes says, "Even in our culture that is not a largely Christian culture, we understand that to judge is to protect. We want to make a judgment about people who are putting others in danger. We want to make a judgment about people who are victimizing others."

In this episode of Let's Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger talk about the confusion around a biblical view of judgment. They discuss the questions of when it's right and when it's wrong to judge others, and whether it's possible to make right judgments with the wrong heart attitude. They talk about the difference in judging those inside the church and out. Ultimately, the gospel and our own need for grace must inform how and why we judge other people.

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This season of Let’s Talk is sponsored by RTS Global, the online program at Reformed Theological Seminary. Learn more at rts.edu/online.

Feb 26, 2021
People Pleasing
00:44:55

It's not a bad thing to want to please others. So when do we cross a line into sinful people pleasing? Jasmine Holmes puts it succinctly: "It's when your identity is founded on other people's perception of you."

On this episode of Let's Talk, Jasmine, Jackie, and Melissa all confess to people-pleasing tendencies that can become sin, though each faces different temptations. It's helpful to understand how your personality and gifting may bring with them a related temptation. Melissa shares that, in her own life, she has learned that it's possible to be nice to people in a way that isn't actually kind. The hosts also talk about how people pleasing affects parenting, and what they hope for their kids as they grown in independence.

Related Resources

This season of Let’s Talk is sponsored by RTS Global, the online program at Reformed Theological Seminary. Learn more at rts.edu/online.

Feb 19, 2021
Fear and Anxiety
00:44:37

Is our country ever going to be the same? Will I give my parents COVID? Are my children spending too much time in front of screens? Most likely, these questions, or others like them, have run through your mind in the past year. We live in an anxious age. If you sometimes feel like fear and anxiety are your roommates, you aren't alone! But we don't have to give fear and anxiety dominion over our lives or our minds.

In this episode of Let's Talk, Jasmine, Jackie, and Melissa talk about coping with anxiety and how to be honest about what is frightening—without living in fear. Jasmine says that when she's anxious, she turns to Psalm 16 because "the opposite of anxiety, for me, is joy." She says, "my prayer when I'm feeling anxious is, 'bring me closer to your presence. Bring me into your presence, because I know that this anxiety can't exist there.'"  

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This season of Let’s Talk is sponsored by RTS Global, the online program at Reformed Theological Seminary. Learn more at rts.edu/online.

Feb 12, 2021
The Holiness of God
00:39:17

Do we want to see the holiness of God? The answer might be more complicated than it seems. A glimpse of God's holiness immediately makes us aware of our own sin. But it's also the thing that empowers our obedience and gives us hope that all that is wrong with the world will be made right.

In this episode of Let's Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger talk about our complicated relationship with holiness. If we fail to appreciate God's holiness, we fail to know God as he really is. Jackie warns, "We live in a society that continues to frame and shape God around its own cultural ideas, which means you have a God that's always changing. He's always becoming like whatever decade you live in, when he doesn't exist like that. I want a God who is not mutable like me, so that I can actually stand on something that's solid, for eternity."

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This season of Let’s Talk is sponsored by RTS Global, the online program at Reformed Theological Seminary. Learn more at rts.edu/online.

 

Feb 05, 2021
Our Spiritual Heroes
00:37:54

Who shaped your spiritual life?

In this first episode of season two of Let's Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger consider the men and women, both living and dead, who have been their spiritual role models. They talk about historical figures as well as people they have known personally. They discuss about how to grapple with the flaws of our heroes, and why we might overlook some sins but not others.

Melissa notes that when we look at the "cloud of witnesses" who have withstood hardship, it helps us say, by the Spirit, "I can withstand, too."

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This season of Let’s Talk is sponsored by RTS Global, the online program at Reformed Theological Seminary. Learn more at rts.edu/online.

Jan 29, 2021
Season Two Trailer
00:01:10

Let's Talk returns for a second season of conversations with Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger. Subscribe to Let's Talk and look for new episodes every Friday, starting January 29. 

This season of Let’s Talk is sponsored by RTS Global, the online program at Reformed Theological Seminary. Learn more at rts.edu/online.

Jan 22, 2021
Gospelbound: The Hardest Year and the Hope That Never Fails
00:23:12

As 2020 finally ends, it feels appropriate to look back on what we've learned and ultimately celebrate what God has done, even in the midst of one of the most difficult years ever collectively experienced.

In this special bonus episode of Let's Talk, Collin Hansen is joined by TGC colleague Melissa Kruger, who co-hosts the Let's Talk podcast. They discuss big trends and stories from 2020, share their hopes for 2021, and reflect on God's faithfulness displayed through TGC and many other areas of life.

To hear the full conversation, head over to the episode "The Hardest Year and the Hope That Never Fails", originally released on Gospelbound.

Dec 18, 2020
Sanity in a Pandemic
00:45:57

In this bonus episode of Let's Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger update each other on life over the past eight months of lockdowns, schooling disruptions, online church, and family life in close quarters. They talk about the difficulties of lockdown as well as the unexpected blessings.

Jackie notes that the pandemic has been like a light that exposes both good and bad. One thing it has exposed is our inability to make and keep plans in our own power, something addressed in James 4:13–16. The lack of control we feel in a pandemic can also create greater dependency on God. Jackie says, "I think that's a blessing, honestly, to have to need God in a way that I've always needed him, but to actually recognize it."

We plan to be back with Season 2 of Let's Talk in early 2021. Subscribe today to receive new episodes when they are released!

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This episode of Let’s Talk is sponsored by LifeWay, publisher of Jackie Hill Perry's first Bible study, Jude: Contending for the Faith in Today's Culture. Over seven sessions, you'll study the Book of Jude verse-by-verse, dive into themes of being called, loved, and kept, and learn how to point others to Jesus in grace and truth. While often overlooked, the Book of Jude remains as relevant today as the time it was written. Get your copy of Jude wherever books are sold or at LifeWay.com/Jude

Oct 23, 2020
Taming the Tongue . . . and the Thumb
00:36:56

In this final episode of the first season of Let's Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger talk about taming the tongue—both in face-to-face life and online. We may dismiss sins of speech, from gossip to complaining to tearing someone down, as minor. But James compares the damage our words can do to a blazing forest fire lit by just a spark (3:5).

Jackie points out that Christians often say online what they would not say to someone's face. But if we truly fear God, we would honor him with our online speech. Melissa talks about how gossip breeds false intimacy in the moment, but ultimately destroys trust in a friendship. And Jasmine recommends safeguards to avoid rash speech online so that we don't get carried away and have to publicly apologize later.

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Today’s episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. To get an idea of what this work looks like, take this story from South Asia: Several families living in slavery were being brutally abused, poorly fed, and forced to sleep outside in make-shift tents. When IJM and local authorities heard about the abuse, they planned a rescue operation to set these families free—and that operation took place in March of this year, setting 50 people free. You can help make this kind of restoration possible by becoming a Freedom Partner and sending IJM to rescue others. Freedom Partners give a monthly gift to IJM, so IJM teams can show up month after month to rescue people from slavery and walk with survivors as they heal. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today.

Aug 07, 2020
Building Friendships with People Unlike Yourself
00:40:25

On this episode of Let's Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger talk about building and cultivating friendships with people who aren’t just like you. This may mean someone of a different race, different life stage, different socio-economic class, or who simply has a different personality than you do. Building these friendships often requires overcoming insecurity, more communication, and a willingness to show grace over perceived slights or offenses.

It's easy to be friends with people who are just like us, but when we put time and effort into friendships with people who are different from us, rich spiritual blessings result.

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Today’s episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. To get an idea of what this work looks like, take this story from South Asia: Several families living in slavery were being brutally abused, poorly fed, and forced to sleep outside in make-shift tents. When IJM and local authorities heard about the abuse, they planned a rescue operation to set these families free—and that operation took place in March of this year, setting 50 people free. You can help make this kind of restoration possible by becoming a Freedom Partner and sending IJM to rescue others. Freedom Partners give a monthly gift to IJM, so IJM teams can show up month after month to rescue people from slavery and walk with survivors as they heal. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today.

Jul 31, 2020
Finding a Mentor and Being a Mentor
00:39:06

A mentor is someone who "puts flesh on the Christian life," who helps you understand how to live what the Bible teaches. On today's episode of Let's Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger talk about the people who have mentored them and why being a mentor shouldn't be intimidating. They give practical advice on how to find a mentor and on how to be a mentor. For example it's important to communicate your expectations of the relationship, to decide how long the mentoring is going to last, and how formal or informal it will be.

Sometimes mentoring is intimidating because we fear we will be failures if the person we are mentoring doesn't grow, but Melissa points out that mentors are not meant to replace God in your life. Only he can make you grow. But a mentor can come alongside you and encourage you to listen to and live by God's Word.

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Today’s episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. To get an idea of what this work looks like, take this story from South Asia: Several families living in slavery were being brutally abused, poorly fed, and forced to sleep outside in make-shift tents. When IJM and local authorities heard about the abuse, they planned a rescue operation to set these families free—and that operation took place in March of this year, setting 50 people free. You can help make this kind of restoration possible by becoming a Freedom Partner and sending IJM to rescue others. Freedom Partners give a monthly gift to IJM, so IJM teams can show up month after month to rescue people from slavery and walk with survivors as they heal. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today.

 

 

 

Jul 24, 2020
Decision-Making
00:32:21

Some decisions, like who to marry, are big and will affect the rest of your life. Other decisions aren't as momentous, but they feel just as big.

On this episode of Let's Talk, Melissa Kruger, Jackie Hill Perry, and Jasmine Holmes talk about some of the big decisions they have made in life. They recognize that wise decisions come from seeking godly counsel, praying, meditating on God's Word. But even when a person does these things, the right decision isn't always abundantly clear.

Jasmine points out that we treat some decisions as if we are going to be bound by them forever. In the case of marriage, we are, but when it comes to other things we agonize over (such as school choice or the purchase of a home), we can make the best choice based on our current knowledge, and recalibrate sometime in the future if we need to. Wrestling through decisions isn't easy, but seeking God's guidance increases our reliance upon him.

In this episode, our hosts cover:

  • Cutting with the sharp end of the ax—making tough decisions with surety (1:44)
  • Inviting others into your decision-making (4:40)
  • How to discern between God leading you, your feelings, and your friends (9:21)
  • Living free of comparison in decision-making (13:26)
  • A process for healthy decision-making (19:09)
  • When God redeems a decision (25:34)
  • One of their favorite things (28:55)

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Today’s episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. They take on the difficult, complex work of helping governments protect their own citizens from brutal systems of oppression that have, in some cases, flourished for centuries. With your support, children, women, and men trapped in cycles of awful violence, abuse, and slavery can be found. They can be rescued and they can be restored to health and wholeness. By becoming a freedom partner, you can make this transformation possible. Freedom partners give monthly so IJM teams can show up month after month to rescue people from slavery and walk with survivors as they heal. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today. Your consistent support will impact the lives of individuals all over the world who are waiting to be free.

Jul 17, 2020
Hospitality in Different Contexts
00:34:53

Please note that this conversation on hospitality was pre-recorded before the COVID-19 pandemic. We hope this conversation encourages you to show hospitality once it is safe to gather again.

On today's episode of Let's Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Jackie Hill Perry, and Melissa Kruger talk about welcoming friends and strangers into their homes. Hospitality comes naturally to some, but to others it feels intimidating, intrusive, or just optional. But more than once, the Bible commands Christians to show hospitality ("Show hospitality to one another without grumbling" 1 Peter 4:9).

Inviting others into your home can feel like a lot of work. Melissa says that nearly every time she has guests over, she says to her husband, "Now why are we doing this?" That feeling is normal. "... The good that the Lord wants us to do, we're always going to be tempted not to do," Melissa says. "And I feel that almost every time. And I think knowing that you're going to feel it has helped me push through it." By the time her guests leave, she's usually really glad they came.

For more on how to practice hospitality, check out the links below. You can subscribe to Let's Talk on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. Next week's episode will be a conversation on how to make good decisions.

Our hosts address:

  • Defining hospitality (4:05)
  • Stories of good hospitality (5:20)
  • Why hospitality is important (10:47)
  • How to display a spirit of hospitality (15:31)
  • Being hospitable in and out of church (18:00)
  • Being hospitable during busy seasons (22:08)
  • Facing fears that keep people from practicing hospitality (26:29)
  • A growing need for hospitality as culture grows more progressive (30:56)
  • One of their favorite things (33:02)

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Today’s episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. They take on the difficult, complex work of helping governments protect their own citizens from brutal systems of oppression that have, in some cases, flourished for centuries. With your support, children, women, and men trapped in cycles of awful violence, abuse, and slavery can be found. They can be rescued and they can be restored to health and wholeness. By becoming a freedom partner, you can make this transformation possible. Freedom partners give monthly so IJM teams can show up month after month to rescue people from slavery and walk with survivors as they heal. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today. Your consistent support will impact the lives of individuals all over the world who are waiting to be free.

Jul 10, 2020
Fighting Sin
00:39:47

Sometimes, it surprises new Christians to find that they still struggle with sin. Although we have been united to Christ and justified by his righteousness, as long as we are on this earth, we still have a sinful nature and must daily resist temptation.

In this episode of Let’s Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger talk about the ongoing struggle against sin in the Christian life. They each talk about personal struggles with temptation and what strategies help them resist it. In order to be motivated to fight sin, we have to believe what God says about it. Melissa reflects,

I think fighting sin is an act of belief. It says, you know what? I am limited. I don't understand how this world works, but God does. He's the creator. He made me. He actually knows how I work best. So all of scripture is actually, all the law is saying this is how you work best. . . . What I think I want isn't actually what's good for me.

Listen in on their conversation and be renewed in your own determination to fight for holiness as they discuss:

  • Recognizing sin doesn’t go away when you come to faith—you have to fight it (1:52)
  • The fight against sin as a war—being battle-ready (6:25)
  • How Reformed theology may affect the fight against sin (8:45)
  • Understanding the enemy (13:52)
  • How friends help us fight the battle (16:27)
  • Knowing your sins and staying soft-hearted toward them (19:48)
  • The effect of covenant love on repentance (24:15)
  • When fighting sin feels like death (27:28)
  • What to say to people who don’t think they have sins to fight (28:55)
  • Measuring against the correct standard (33:22)
  • Scripture that encourages people to endure in the fight against sin (34:07)
  • One of their favorite things (37:17)

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Today’s episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. They take on the difficult, complex work of helping governments protect their own citizens from brutal systems of oppression that have, in some cases, flourished for centuries. With your support, children, women, and men trapped in cycles of awful violence, abuse, and slavery can be found. They can be rescued and they can be restored to health and wholeness. By becoming a freedom partner, you can make this transformation possible. Freedom partners give monthly so IJM teams can show up month after month to rescue people from slavery and walk with survivors as they heal. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today. Your consistent support will impact the lives of individuals all over the world who are waiting to be free.

Jul 03, 2020
Overcoming Church Hurt
00:37:48

Wounds inflicted within the church surprise us because we expect other Christians to act in godly ways. When they don't, it might make us question not only their faith, but our own. In this episode of Let’s Talk, Jasmine Holmes, Melissa Kruger, and Jackie Hill Perry talk about their own experiences in working through church hurt. Whether it's the pressure put on a pastor's kid to be perfect or the moral failure of a church leader, church hurt may follow us for the rest of our lives. But that doesn't mean God can't use it for good. It also doesn't mean we should stay away from church. As Jackie says in this discussion, "What healed me from church hurt was the church."

Our hosts discuss:

  • Church hurt is a thing (1:44)
  • Experiences with church hurt (3:31)
  • How church hurt impacts peoples’ lives (7:03)
  • The weight of relationships within the church (9:50)
  • How to deal with church hurt (14:10)
  • Spotting abuse and other signs of an unhealthy church (23:25)
  • Dealing with an unrepentant person in your church (27:31)
  • The church as a blessing (32:40)
  • One of their favorite things (36:48)

We hope you are enjoying these conversations on applying biblical wisdom to every day life. If so, please tell your friends about it and invite them to listen!

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This episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. Across Southern Asia, IJM works to rescue people out of slavery and trafficking. In Latin America, they help children and women who have survived all kinds of violence and abuse. In short, IJM is a community of Christ followers fighting for the freedom and protection of the most vulnerable in our world. Over the last two decades, more than 50,000 individuals have been set free, thanks to people like you who sent IJM to rescue them. But there are thousands more—children, men and women—who are still waiting for rescue. You can make a difference in their lives by becoming a Freedom Partner. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today. Your consistent support will impact the lives of individuals all over the world.

Jun 26, 2020
Battling Discontentment
00:33:53

In this episode of Let’s Talk, Melissa Kruger, Jackie Hill Perry, and Jasmine Holmes talk about how they fight against discontentment and envy. Because we live in a fallen world, we have to face the fact that life often won't be what we expect or desire. 

Our hosts discuss:

  • Discontentment (1:58)
  • The difference between accepting that the world is broken and discontentment (3:46)
  • The root issues of trust and disbelief (9:59)
  • Community and honesty as tools for overcoming discontentment (10:58)
  • The complexity of Scripture on the matter (12:50)
  • The effect of age and wisdom on discontentment (16:18)
  • The effect of envy on our discontentment (21:30)
  • Refocusing our minds to choose contentment (27:55)
  • One of their favorite things (30:25)

But it takes discernment to know the difference between just dealing with life's imperfections and sinful discontentment. Melissa shares a change in her own thinking that transformed this battle: "What shifted is I recognized I have a heart problem, not a circumstance problem. So, that changes how I fight the battle. I realize, I'm going to be fighting this battle with discontentment my whole life, but I fight it differently."

During this season, Jackie, Melissa, and Jasmine will be doing a lot of talking as they seek to apply biblical wisdom to every day life. On each episode, they’ll discuss a topic like how to be godly on social media, how to make decisions, and how to build healthy friendships. 

 

Related content:

 

This episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. Across Southern Asia, IJM works to rescue people out of slavery and trafficking. In Latin America, they help children and women who have survived all kinds of violence and abuse. In short, IJM is a community of Christ followers fighting for the freedom and protection of the most vulnerable in our world. Over the last two decades, more than 50,000 individuals have been set free, thanks to people like you who sent IJM to rescue them. But there are thousands more—children, men and women—who are still waiting for rescue. You can make a difference in their lives by becoming a Freedom Partner.

Visit IJM.org/LetsTalkto join today. Your consistent support will impact the lives of individuals all over the world.

 

Jun 19, 2020
Sharing Your Faith
00:34:37

In this first episode of Let’s Talk, a brand-new podcast for women from The Gospel Coalition podcast network, hosts Jackie Hill Perry, Melissa Kruger, and Jasmine Holmes tell their own stories of coming to faith in Christ. Each woman comes from a very different background, but all three recognize that the grace of God led them to repentance and faith. They branch out from their own stories to talk more generally about how we should think about, pray about, and go about sharing our faith with those who don't know Christ.

Our hosts discuss:

  • An introduction to the podcast and our hosts (1:07)
  • Melissa’s story of coming to faith (3:41)
  • Jasmine’s story of coming to faith (5:14)
  • Jackie’s story of coming to faith (7:22)
  • The cumulative effect of sharing the gospel over time (8:44)
  • Sharing the gospel with people who’ve grown up in Christian home (9:56)
  • Growing in our ability to share our faith with different types of people (14:20)
  • A recipe for gospel presentation (20:13)
  • Moving easily into conversations about the gospel (24:33)
  • Takeaways for everyday application (30:59)
  • One of their favorite things (32:43)

Over the next nine weeks, Jackie, Melissa, and Jasmine will be doing a lot of talking as they seek to apply biblical wisdom to every day life. On each episode they’ll discuss a topic like fighting sin, overcoming church hurt, making decisions, and acting in a godly way on social media. We hope you'll subscribe today so that you can join them each week!

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This episode of Let’s Talk is brought to you in part by International Justice Mission. IJM is a global nonprofit working to end slavery and violence around the world. Across Southern Asia, IJM works to rescue people out of slavery and trafficking. In Latin America, they help children and women who have survived all kinds of violence and abuse. In short, IJM is a community of Christ followers fighting for the freedom and protection of the most vulnerable in our world. Over the last two decades, more than 50,000 individuals have been set free, thanks to people like you who sent IJM to rescue them. But there are thousands more—children, men and women—who are still waiting for rescue. You can make a difference in their lives by becoming a Freedom Partner. Visit IJM.org/LetsTalk to join today. Your consistent support will impact the lives of individuals all over the world.

Jun 12, 2020
Introducing Let's Talk: A New Podcast for Women
00:01:17
Let’s Talk is a new podcast for women from The Gospel Coalition Podcast Network. On each episode, Jackie Hill Perry, Melissa Kruger, and Jasmine Holmes talk about a different topic and how to apply biblical wisdom to everyday life.
May 16, 2020