No Way Out
By Mark McGrath and Brian "Ponch" Rivera
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No Way Out: The #1 Podcast on John Boyd’s OODA Loop, The Flow System, and Navigating UncertaintySponsored by AGLX — a global network powering adaptive leadership, enterprise agility, and resilient teams in complex, high-stakes environments.Home to the deepest explorations of Colonel John R. Boyd’s OODA Loop (Observe–Orient–Decide–Act), Destruction and Creation, Patterns of Conflict — and the official voice of The Flow System, the modern evolution of Boyd’s ideas into complex adaptive systems, team-of-teams design, and achieving unbreakable flow.
140+ episodes | New episodes weekly We show how Boyd’s work, The Flow System, and AGLX’s real-world experience enable leaders, startups, militaries, and organizations to out-think, out-adapt, and out-maneuver in today’s chaotic VUCA world — from business strategy and cybersecurity to agile leadership, trading, sports, safety, mental health, and personal decision-making.Subscribe now for the clearest OODA Loop explanations, John Boyd breakdowns, and practical tools for navigating uncertainty available anywhere in 2025.
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Unlocking Reality: OODA Loops, Emergence, and the Mind's Hidden Boundaries
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Jan 05, 2026 |
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Trend Following Warfare: John Boyd's OODA Loop in Trading
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Dec 29, 2025 |
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Sun Tzu to AI: OODA Loop – Moral Conflict, Human Flourishing, or Dependency?
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Dec 17, 2025 |
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Beyond the Linear OODA Loop: Jon Becker Breaks Down Authentic OODA Loop
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Dec 11, 2025 |
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Unrestricted Decline: Debt, Inflation and The Road to Serfdom (w/ Max Borders)
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Dec 08, 2025 |
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The REAL Story of the Snowmobile – John Boyd’s Famous Metaphor Comes to Life
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Dec 03, 2025 |
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MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
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Dec 01, 2025 |
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From F-14 Tomcats to Toad Medicine: 1 Year Inside Ambio w/ Mark "Slider" Keller
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Nov 24, 2025 |
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Central Banks Bubble Machine vs. Mises & OODA Economics
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Nov 20, 2025 |
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From Cockpit to Hardwood: OODA Loop & CLA Basketball with David Cochrane
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Nov 18, 2025 |
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Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
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Nov 12, 2025 |
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OODA in Sports Coaching: Constraints-Led Approach (CLA) Insights
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Nov 05, 2025 |
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Agentic AI Thinks Like Boyd: The OODA Upgrade LLMs Can’t Touch
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Oct 29, 2025 |
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Real-Time Policing in Chicagoland: Real OODA With Lou Hayes, Jr
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Oct 21, 2025 |
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Naval Power in Action with CAPT Brent Sadler, USN (Ret.)
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Oct 17, 2025 |
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Spatial Web + Active Inference: Beyond LLMs | Dan Mapes
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Oct 14, 2025 |
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Betrayal of Command: LtCol Asad ‘Genghis’ Khan, USMC (Ret.) on Toxic Leadership & Afghanistan Failure
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Oct 10, 2025 |
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Bad Boyd, Good Receipts: Inside Snowmobiles & Grand Ideals with Ian Brown
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Oct 08, 2025 |
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Military Hardware to Mental Health: Perceptual Control Theory with Warren Mansell, PhD
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Oct 01, 2025 |
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Autism, Telepathy and New "Outside" Information with Dr. Julia Mossbridge
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Sep 25, 2025 |
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TOPGUN vs. Major Boyd: Humans Over Algorithms with CAPT Dan Pederson
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Sep 18, 2025 |
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AI’s D&C Cycles Accelerate: Harmonizing Agents and The Big 'O’rientation with Mahault Albarracin, PhD
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Sep 04, 2025 |
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Human-Agent Team of Teams: Active Inference AI & The Spatial Web w/ Dr. David Bray and Denise Holt
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Aug 26, 2025 |
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Outmaneuver Complexity: AI Gold Rush 2.0 & Adaptive Capacity with David Woods, PhD
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Jul 29, 2025 |
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Reorienting Safety: Human and Organizational Performance (HOP) with Todd Conklin
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Jul 16, 2025 |
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Entropy to OODA Loop: Neuroscience of Safety Systems
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Jul 09, 2025 |
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Pre-Event Indicators: Staying Left of Bang With Patrick Van Horne
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Jul 02, 2025 |
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Learning War, Winning in the Age of AI: Lessons in Adaptive Strategy with Trent Hone
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Jun 26, 2025 |
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Drones, Airspace, AI, and Decision Making: DroneUp CEO on Leading in Complexity
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Jun 02, 2025 |
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Top Gun Day Special: The Four Ps of OODA
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May 13, 2025 |
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The Elk Hunter's Journey: Leadership, Adaptability, and Self-Discovery in the Wild with Gilbert Ornelas and Joe Giglia
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Apr 30, 2025 |
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From Cockpit to OR: Surgical Precision and Team Performance With Dr. Matt Cooper
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Apr 02, 2025 |
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Alan Green and The America Codes: We Are One (No Way Out Ep. 113)
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Mar 26, 2025 |
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Boyd's Real OODA Loop: Deconstructing TEoWL with Chet Richards
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Mar 24, 2025 |
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Navigating Complexity: Patterns, Entropy, and the OODA Loop with John Bicknell
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Mar 19, 2025 |
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From Empire to Einheit: Hegseth’s Reform Challenge with Don Vandergriff
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Mar 14, 2025 |
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Digital Guerrilla Warfare: Deception in the Cyber Age with Tim Pappa
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Mar 06, 2025 |
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The Wayback Mission: Mark Graham on Preserving the Past with the Internet Archive
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Mar 03, 2025 |
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Championing Change: Diversity, Inclusion, and Leadership in the Navy with Theresa Carpenter
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Feb 27, 2025 |
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From Battlefields to Boardrooms: Leadership Lessons from Vietnam to Modern Business with Bing West
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Feb 25, 2025 |
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From Battlefield to Pen: Military Insights, Strategy, and Creative Transformation with Austin Caroe
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Feb 20, 2025 |
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Decoding Market Dynamics: How Relative Sentiment Transforms Investment Strategies with Ray Micaletti
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Feb 18, 2025 |
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Navigating Stress, Technology, and Brain Health with Dr. Delia McCabe
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Feb 13, 2025 |
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Unlocking Consciousness: Psychedelics, Healing, and Spirituality with Dr. Anna Yusim
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Feb 11, 2025 |
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Rethinking Market Narratives: Mastering Trend Following with Alex Krainer
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Feb 06, 2025 |
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Perspective Agents: Unleashing Strategic Innovation with Boyd's OODA Loop & McLuhan's Insights with Chris Perry
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Feb 03, 2025 |
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Navigating AI: Balancing Innovation, Ethics, and Human Creativity with Natalie Monbiot
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Jan 30, 2025 |
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The AI Edge: Why OODA, Cybernetics, and Neuroscience Matter with Sean Manion
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Jan 27, 2025 |
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Strategic Evolution: Unrestricted Warfare and the Future of Asymmetric Conflict with Bill DeMarco
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Jan 23, 2025 |
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Challenging Narratives with Starfire Codes: Consciousness, Media Manipulation, and Ancient Mysteries with Demi Pietchell
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Jan 20, 2025 |
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Phoenix Revival: A Fighter Pilot's Journey Through Trauma & Alternative Healing with Kegan Gill
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Jan 16, 2025 |
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Warrior Philosophers: Ancient Wisdom for Modern Challenges with Sam Alaimo
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Jan 13, 2025 |
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Strategic Lessons from Conflict: Military History, Leadership, and Adaptation with General David Petraeus
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Jan 09, 2025 |
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Strong Orientation: How Strength Improves Our Capacity For Free and Independent Action with Nick Delgadillo
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Jan 06, 2025 |
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Transformative Team Dynamics: From Battlefield Strategies to Boardroom Success with Martin Murphy
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Dec 19, 2024 |
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Inflation, Automation, and Empire Hangovers with Sean Ring
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Dec 13, 2024 |
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Blitzed: The Methamphetamine-Fueled Blitzkrieg with Norman Ohler
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Dec 09, 2024 |
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Transformative Leadership in Challenging Times with the Honorable Thomas Modly
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Nov 21, 2024 |
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Ditch Outsourced Thinking: Unleash the Power of Red Teaming w/ Dimbleby & Corella
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Nov 12, 2024 |
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Conceptual Spiral Redux: John Boyd’s Blueprint for Thriving in Complexity with Chet Richards
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Nov 07, 2024 |
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How Fat Leonard Breached the Navy's OODA Loop with Tom Wright
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Oct 23, 2024 |
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A Daughter’s Perspective: Unpacking John Boyd's Legacy with Mary Boyd
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Oct 15, 2024 |
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Mastering the Medium with Andrew McLuhan
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Oct 09, 2024 |
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PsyWar with Dr. Robert W. Malone
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Oct 03, 2024 |
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PsyWar Primer: Liminal Warfare, Flow, 5GW, Sun Tzu and More
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Sep 30, 2024 |
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Unplugged: Information Abundance and Digital Detox with Michael Guimarin
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Sep 25, 2024 |
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Reimagining Neurodiversity: From Isolation to Interaction
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Sep 17, 2024 |
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Market VUCA: Reorienting in the New World Economy with Philippe Gijsels
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Sep 03, 2024 |
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Lesson NOT Learned: Illegal Mandates with Col (Ret.) Thomas "Buzz" Rempfer
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Aug 26, 2024 |
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Building Snowmobiles: John Boyd's 1992 Commencement Wisdom with Mark Squeglia
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Aug 12, 2024 |
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Clean Slate: The Psychedelic Revolution in Healthcare with Maria Velkova
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Aug 09, 2024 |
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Inside the Psychedelic Therapy Movement: A Veteran’s Perspective with Jesse Gould
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Aug 01, 2024 |
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Psychedelics and Sensemaking with Alexander Beiner
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Jul 29, 2024 |
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OODA Economics: Market Mind Hypothesis with Patrick Schotanus, PhD
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Jul 17, 2024 |
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Westrum's World: Culture, Information Flow and Innovation with Ron Westrum, PhD
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Jul 09, 2024 |
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Flow: The Essence of Winning and Learning with Sue Enquist
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Jul 02, 2024 |
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Maverick Spine: The Physical & Mental Costs of Military Aviation w/ Dr. Daphne Ryan
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Jun 12, 2024 |
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MICC Reformers: Sprey, Boyd, Spinney, Kay, Christie and the A-10 with Hal Sundt
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Jun 03, 2024 |
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Reorienting Trauma: Psychedelic Healing for Veterans with Trevor Millar & Jonathan Dickinson
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May 27, 2024 |
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Psychedelics: From Mind Control to Mind Expansion with Norman Ohler
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May 13, 2024 |
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BrainTap: Brainwaves, Technology & Flow with Patrick Porter, PhD
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May 07, 2024 |
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Command and Control Systems with S. Anders Christensson
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Apr 23, 2024 |
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Reorient Your Planning Process with Annette Nolan and Johan Ivari
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Apr 15, 2024 |
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Liminality, Innovation and Conflict with David Kilcullen, PhD
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Mar 27, 2024 |
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Liberating Structures for Safety, Innovation, and Resilience with Keith McCandless
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Mar 18, 2024 |
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Peak Performance with Jeff Sutherland, PhD
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Feb 13, 2024 |
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Flaws and f-Laws of "TOPGUN" Thinking with Whiz, Ponch, and Gareth
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Jan 23, 2024 |
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Meltdown 2024? Not if Leaders Rethink Risk Management and Embrace Complexity with Chris Clearfield | S2, Ep1
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Jan 03, 2024 |
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Unleashing the Power of the Team OODA loop: Lessons from High-Performance Teams in Risk Management and Debriefing with Gareth Lock | Ep 57
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Dec 11, 2023 |
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Taking Flight: Exploring the Intersection of Design, Aviation, and Engineering Psychology with John Flach | Ep 56
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Dec 04, 2023 |
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'Slowify:' How Winning Organizations Create Fingerspitzengefühl & Einheit with Steven J. Spear, DBA | Ep 55
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Nov 15, 2023 |
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Decoding John Boyd: Unveiling the Complexity and Influence of His Theories with Shawn Callahan, PhD | Ep 54
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Nov 06, 2023 |
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Theory of Constraints: Flow, TPS and Boyd's OODA Loop with Steve Holt | Ep 53
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Nov 02, 2023 |
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Constraints, Context, Complexity, and Culture with Alicia Juarrero, PhD | Ep 52
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Oct 30, 2023 |
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The Triple Helix of Flow: The Flow System Playbook with John Turner, PhD and Nigel Thurlow | Ep 51
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Oct 24, 2023 |
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Red Teaming with Colonel (Ret.) Steven Rotkoff
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Oct 19, 2023 |
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Wargaming: Building Adaptive Leadership Capability with Ian Brown
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Oct 16, 2023 |
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Flow: Reimagining Agile (WAF 2023 Panel: Hendrickson, Kerievsky, Kleiner, Denning, Kern)
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Oct 07, 2023 |
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Dr. Delia McCabe and Pete Behrens: Neuroscience & Leadership in the Age of AI (World Agility Forum 2023)
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Oct 04, 2023 |
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Sonja Blignaut & Nigel Thurlow: Human Factors in the Age of AI (World Agility Forum 2023)
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Sep 28, 2023 |
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Befriending Complexity: Agile, Flow, and the Art of Wayfinding with Sonja Blignaut
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Sep 24, 2023 |
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The Power and Origins of Decision-Forcing Cases: History, Application, and Transformational Learning with Bruce Gudmundsson
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Sep 18, 2023 |
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Understanding the Intricacies of Middle Market Businesses with Doug Farren | Ep 43
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Sep 11, 2023 |
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Team Science: Building High-Performance Teams with Eduardo Salas, PhD | Ep 42
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Sep 07, 2023 |
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The Power of Debriefing: An Insight Into Effective Teamwork with Scott Tannenbaum, PhD | Ep 41
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Aug 29, 2023 |
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The New New Artificial Intelligence Game of Interaction and Isolation with John Robb | Ep 40
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Aug 23, 2023 |
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Category Theory: Unleashing the Power of Relational Dynamics with E. Montero and B. Baylor | Ep 39
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Aug 21, 2023 |
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Exploring the Impact of John Boyd's Theories on Investment Strategies and Market Behavior with John M. Jennings | Ep 38
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Aug 17, 2023 |
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Active Inference = Real OODA: Free Energy Principle Decoded
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Aug 14, 2023 |
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The Reality of Boyd’s Loop: Neuroscience, Complexity and Flow with Bobby Azarian, PhD | Ep 36
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Aug 08, 2023 |
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The Battle for Your Mind: Neuroscience, Technology & the OODA Loop with James Giordano, PhD | Ep 35
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Aug 02, 2023 |
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DIANA: NATO's Innovation Accelerator with Brigadier General Imre Porkolab | Ep 34
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Jul 27, 2023 |
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Neuromined: Digital Manipulation, Techno-Fascism and the War for Our Minds with Michael Ashley | Ep 33
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Jul 25, 2023 |
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The Buzz on Team Dynamics: A Beekeeper's Perspective with Mick Brian | Ep 32
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Jul 19, 2023 |
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Unlocking Your Potential: Harnessing the Power of Barbell Training with the Starting Strength System with Pete Yeh | Ep 31
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Jul 11, 2023 |
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Creating Investment Mismatches and Embracing Economic Uncertainties with Taylor Pearson | Ep 30
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Jul 05, 2023 |
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The Story Behind "No Way Out" with Ponch Rivera and Mark McGrath | Ep 29
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Jun 27, 2023 |
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Innovating with Boyd: Exploring the OODA Loop and Overcoming Obstructionists for Transformation and Growth with Kuan Collins, PhD | Ep 28
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Jun 21, 2023 |
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Thinking Beyond the Battlefield: Lessons From John Boyd's Impact on Marine Corps Thinking with GI Wilson | Ep 27
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Jun 19, 2023 |
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Exploring the Cutting Edge of Complexity, Adaptive Strategy and Innovation With You: A Gratitude Episode with Mark McGrath and Ponch Rivera | Ep 26
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Jun 18, 2023 |
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Explainable AI: Active Inference, Free Energy Principle, Spatial Web & Boyd's OODA loop with Denise Holt | Ep 25
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Jun 13, 2023 |
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Unlocking the Power of Ancient Wisdom for Modern Leaders with James Gimian | Ep 24
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Jun 01, 2023 |
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Denver Nuggets & Florida Panthers: Secrets of High-Performance, Flow & Resilience with Digit Murphy | Ep 23
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May 26, 2023 |
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Insider Secrets Behind the Toyota Production System & Boyd's OODA Loop with Charlie Protzman | Ep 22
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May 24, 2023 |
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Make Sense of Complexity and Co-Create Value with Viv Read | Ep 21
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May 17, 2023 |
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Sun Tzu, Boyd and Wardley: The Art of Strategy with Erik Schön | Ep 20
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May 08, 2023 |
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War, Conflict and Lessons Learning: Building Better Leaders with Aaron MacLean | Ep 19
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May 01, 2023 |
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Improving Patient Safety: Team Science, Big Data and Lean with Dr. Dan Low | Ep 18
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Apr 25, 2023 |
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Embracing Uncertainty: The Cognitive Dimension with Gary Klein, PhD | Ep 17
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Apr 17, 2023 |
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Certain to Zen: OODA, IOHAI, Lean, and More with Chet Richards, PhD | Ep 16
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Apr 04, 2023 |
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Supercharging Product Management with the OODA Loop: Expert Insights from Chris Butler | Ep 15
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Mar 28, 2023 |
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The Physics of Perception with Adrian Bejan, PhD | Ep 14
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Mar 20, 2023 |
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The Training Secret Behind Building Adaptive Leaders with Fred Leland | Ep 13
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Mar 15, 2023 |
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Understanding SVB: Game B, Complexity, Risk, Markets and Nested OODA Loops with Jim Rutt | Ep 12
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Mar 13, 2023 |
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Leadership Action: How to Turn Your Ship Around and Achieve Oscar-Level Success with CAPT J. J. “Yank” Cummings, USN, Retired | Ep 11
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Mar 09, 2023 |
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Agile & OODA: Agility as an Outcome with Agile Manifesto Co-Author, Alistair Cockburn, PhD | Ep 10
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Mar 07, 2023 |
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A New Science of Orientation with Inês Hipólito, PhD | Ep 9
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Feb 28, 2023 |
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A General’s View on Boyd, Leadership and Agility with Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard, USAF | Ep 8
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Feb 23, 2023 |
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The Socratic Experience and Conscious Capitalism with Michael Strong | Ep 7
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Feb 20, 2023 |
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Decision-Making Under Conditions of Chronic Stress with Delia McCabe, PhD | Ep 6
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Feb 11, 2023 |
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A Networked-Run World: A Brave New Conversation with John Robb | Ep 5
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Feb 06, 2023 |
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Distributed Leadership: The Teaming Secret Behind Mission Command with Don Vandergriff | Ep 4
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Jan 30, 2023 |
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Creating Economic and Entrepreneurial Advantage: The Value of the OODA Loop with Hunter Hastings | Ep 3
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Jan 23, 2023 |
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Complexity, Cynefin and the Evolution of the OODA Loop with Dave Snowden | Ep 2
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Jan 16, 2023 |
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The Episode Where We Launch the Podcast as a Controlled Hallucination | Ep 1
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Jan 04, 2023 |