On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• “Proud Boys” email campaign attributed to Iran in record time
• Sanctions for everyone!
• US doxes more adversary TTPs
• Katie Nickels and Chris Krebs join the show

This week’s show is brought to you by attack simulation platform company AttackIQ. Carl Wright from AttackIQ joins us this week to talk about the distinct possibility that large organisations are going to start slashing their security budgets in response to the changing economy.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

In this (wholly sponsored) edition of the Snake Oilers podcast, three vendors will drop by to pitch their sweet, sweet snake oil:

• Gravwell pitches its “structure on read” approach to SIEM
• Plextrac describes its red team/pentest reporting platform
• ITProTV’s Don Pezet talks about trends in online training

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• US DoJ unseals indictments against Sandworm operators
• Twitter backtracks on “hacked materials” policy
• No consensus on Trickbot c2 status
• NSA publishes “most exploited” listicle that’s actually interesting
• Much, much more

Cmd Security is this week’s sponsor. Its CEO Jake King and CTO Mike Sample join the show this week to talk though a new remote access tech release from Hashicorp called Boundary and what it might mean for Linux system observability in your environment.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Yep, it was Cyber Command
• Also Microsoft, Symantec, Lumen and others
• Norwegian parliament hack pinned on Russia
• We finally talk about “ethics in OST”
• More

Netflix senior security engineer Scott Behrens also joins the show this week. This week’s episode if brought to you by Signal Sciences – which is now a part of Fastly – and they suggested we talk to Scott for their sponsor slot this week. So, Scott joins the show to talk through how Netflix handles appsec.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

In this (wholly sponsored) edition of the Snake Oilers podcast, three vendors will drop by to pitch their sweet, sweet snake oil:

• Vaughan Shanks pitches the Cydarm SOC incident management platform
• Adrian Kitto introduces Detexian, a platform that audits SaaS accounts
• Eric Skinner from Trend Micro talks about XDR

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• The UHS ransomware attack
• Someone is messing with TrickBot: Did the USA release the hounds?
• US Treasury issues final warning on sanctioned ransomware crews
• Azerbaijan and Armenia going at it
• Fancy Bear owns US government department

Nucleus Security co-founder Scott Kuffer joins the show in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about how they have discovered a LOT of enterprises are actually trying to develop in-house vulnerability management software and how that is not going well.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This edition of the show is brought to you with the assistance the Hewlett Foundation, which awarded us a grant so we could do these policy-focussed podcasts.

Malcolm Bligh Turnbull served as a member of Parliament from 2004 until 2018, and as Prime Minister from September 2015 until August 2018. But he has been a public figure in Australia for decades. He’s an Oxford-educated lawyer who studied there under a Rhodes scholarship, he’s worked as a journalist, as the personal lawyer to Australian media baron Kerry Packer and was a leader of the ultimately unsuccessful campaign to make Australia a republic in the 1990s.

He can also list a number of achievements in the business world. In 1994 he invested half a million dollars into Australian ISP Ozemail, selling his stake to Worldcom in 1999 for $57m.

As you’ll hear, now he’s returned to private life Turnbull is investing in technology again. He joined the show to talk about cybersecurity in government, Huawei, the 2016 hack-and-leak operation against the DNC – which took place while he was PM – and more.

As regular listeners know, these Soap Box podcasts are wholly sponsored. That means everyone you hear in a Soap Box podcast, paid to be here. But that’s ok, because we manage to book very interesting guests into these things, like today’s guest, Sami Laine.

Officially he’s Okta’s director of technology strategy – but informally he describes his role as being more like a principal security architect.

He joins us to talk about identity as the new perimeter and the massive leap we’ve towards a zero trust future through 2020.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Russia, China, Iran having a red hot go at US political orgs
• Crowdstrike drops report, telcos having a bad time
• MSS owning US government with dumb bugs
• DoJ indicts Iranian script kiddie because reasons
• Proposed TikTok-Oracle deal barely makes sense
• The mother of all Microsoft auth bugs, wow
• Much, much more…

This week’s show is brought to you by Senetas. And we’ve got two sponsor guests for you this week: Senetas CTO Julian Fay will join us, as will Peter Farrely of AUCloud. Senetas uses AUCloud as a partner for its Suredrop file sharing and collaboration platform here in Oz, and Pete is joining us this week to talk through the new Cloud Assessment and Authorisation Framework published by the ACSC. If you work in Australian government IT and security, this one’s for you!

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Why integrity and availability are key to developing a COVID vaccine
• China closing the “cyber gap” with USA
• ASPI publishes research on TikTok, WeChat censorship
• Belarusian “news app” was tracking activists
• Julian Assange back in court to fight extradition
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Proofpoint, and this week’s sponsor guest is Proofpoint’s senior director of threat research Sherrod DeGrippo. She’ll be telling us about the emergence of some new mid-tier ransomware crews that are targeting people who speak Russian, which is kind of unusual.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This is a sponsored podcast.

Today we’re chatting with a very special guest, Haroon Meer.

Haroon is the founder of Thinkst Canary. Some call it a deception company, but he doesn’t, as you’ll hear. He says Canary is a detection company and the distinction is important.

In this interview we talk about where Canary came from and recap the last 20 years of Haroon’s security career. We go all the way back to his Sensepost days in 2001, right through to him working for actual royalty in Doha, with a brief detour through him creating an anonymous whistleblower platform for a major broadcaster. You may have heard of Haroon and not known why.

This podcast explains why.

On this week’s show Patrick and Alex discuss the week’s security news, including:

• NZ stock exchange felled by DDoS attack
• DNI cancels in-person election security briefings for Democats
• Russians didn’t hack Michigan voter data
• Sendgrid having a bad time of its own making
• US to doxes historical DPRK crypto laundering infrastructure, processes

This week’s sponsor interview is with VMRay co-founder and sandbox guru Carsten Willems.

Carsten is joining us to talk product this week – VMRay has brought out a stack of new integrations for its sandbox product, you can now connect it to a lot of your existing enterprise kit. He’ll pop in to tell us more.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrickor Alex on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Former Uber CSO Joe Sullivan charged with obstruction of justice
• Whitehouse to concede WeChat carveouts for US operations in China
• A bunch of news that sounds like it’s from 1997

This week’s sponsor interview is with Bugcrowd’s CTO Casey Ellis. He’s joining us to talk about some US election-related vulnerability disclosure programs that have kicked off in the USA. Voting machine maker ES&S has launched one as has the state of Ohio.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrickor Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick, Adam and Sherrod DeGrippo discuss the week’s security news, including:

• NSA and FBI doxx GRU malware. Lol.
• Malicious Azure app snags SANS staffer
• Oracle to acquire TikTok?
• Trump weighs Snowden pardon
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Airlock Digital. They make allowlist/safelist software that is actually manageable at scale! David Cottingham, an Airlock co-founder, joins the show this week to talk through a few product updates.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick, Sherrod or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• WeChat joins TikTok in the naughty corner
• TLS 1.3 with ESNI will have a massive impact on censorship AND security
• Belarus goes dark after dodgy election
• Capital One fined $80m
• Much, much more

We’ll be hearing from Dan Guido of Trail of Bits in this week’s sponsor interview. They’ve developed a generic macOS EDR package that you, dear vendor, should absolutely license from them. Dan joins us to explain why.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Trump’s war on TikTok (featuring guest Alex Stamos)
• Twitter hackers caught. Pretty embarrassing stuff, really.
• NSO implants target Easter Bunny
• Garmin may need a good OFAC lawyer (featuring comment from Dmitri Alperovitch)
• Blackberry cracked after five years leads to multiple arrests in Australia
• Much, much more

Matt Cauthorn of ExtraHop Networks is this week’s news guest. He’ll join us to talk about how the pivot to work from home has changed incident response workflows. The tl;dr is the north-south traffic might look a bit different these days but the east-west shenanigans are still the same.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Soap Box is the wholly sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky.Biz. That means everyone you hear on this podcast paid to be here. In this podcast you’re going to hear my latest interview with Jerrod Chong, Yubico’s Chief Solutions Officer.

Hardware security keys like Yubikeys have come a long way, even over the last couple of years. The biggest change is that the support for hardware keys is borderline ubiquitous now. FIDO2 support is in all the major browsers. You can even use Yubikeys with Google apps on an iPhone. The plumbing is here, it’s arrived.

But there are still some hurdles to overcome before the full potential of hardware security keys will be unlocked. One issue is that if you’re operating an at-scale service, you’re still stuck with the same old problems around account recovery. The process problems.

So in this interview I talk with Jerrod about how far things have come and where they might go next.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Two Chinese nationals charged with freelancing for MSS
• Russia, China hacking COVID-19 research
• The world dodged a bullet on the Windows DNS bug
• Twitter blue tick pwnapalooza
• Much, much more.

This week’s show is brought to you by Corelight. The company’s Chief Product Officer, Brian Dye, will be along for a chat a bit later on. We look at how adopting a zero trust model, sadly, doesn’t mean you can just ignore your network completely, as much as that would be nice.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Normally these Soap Box podcasts – which are wholly sponsored – feature vendors trying to sell you stuff. But this time we’re doing something different: This podcast is an interview with two senior Facebook staffers:

• Pedro Canahuati, VP of Engineering
• Chris Bream, Security Engineering Director.

Why is facebook’s security engineering group sponsoring a Soap Box episode of Risky Biz? They figure lifting the veil a bit on how things are done over there will be good for them. They’re always hiring, right?

Enjoy!

(A reminder – there will be no weekly show this week or next. The weekly Risky Biz news podcast returns on July 29.)

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• The latest on the EncroChat hack-related arrests
• Details about the fresh F5 and Citrix bugs
• Natanz go boom
• Paying Wastedlocker ransoms violates Treasury sanctions
• North Korea embraces Magecart (lol)
• Much, much more…

This week’s show is brought to you by Cmd Security. They make a very useful Linux security agent. Essentially they add an additional layer of control to your Linux systems: you can restrict user actions, even for root.

Instead of having one of their own staff on to the show this week they’ve nominated a customer. HPE is a Cmd user, they actually heard about it on the podcast and wound up buying it. So HPE ITOC engineering lead Adam Cardillo and his colleague Curtis Simpson – the ITOC CISO – will both join us in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about how they’re using the software.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This edition of the Soap Box podcast is brought to you by Proofpoint.

Today’s guest is Proofpoint’s EVP of Cybersecurity Strategy, Ryan Kalember, and the topic is business email compromise, or BEC.

BEC is a big deal, generating billions of dollars in losses every year across basically all industry verticals and levels of government. Until recently, there haven’t been many technical controls that help to mitigate it.

Trying to get on top of this issue is very much in Ryan Kalember’s job description. BEC is a diabolical problem, and as a company with a specialty in email security, Proofpoint is really expected to help clients get on top of it. In this conversation you’ll hear us talk a bunch about the problem and Proofpoint’s approach to trying to minimise BEC.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Inside the new American “e2ee busting” bill
• Julian Assange hit with (another) superseding indictment
• Trustwave uncovers sneaky Chinese accounting software backdoor
• Much, much more…

This week’s show is brought to you by Okta. They are, of course, the identity and auth giant and one of the few sponsors we actually approached last year for 2020 because, well, they are very good at what they do. This week Marc will be joining us to talk about a privacy-related topic. The discussion is nuanced, but it’s basically about how the public perception of privacy risks has diverged from the reality/ Further, that the COVID-19 crisis and the advent of digital contact tracing apps have actually brought general concerns around digital privacy to the fore.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Inside the new American “e2ee busting” bill
• Julian Assange hit with (another) superseding indictment
• Trustwave uncovers sneaky Chinese accounting software backdoor
• OMFG Palo Alto WTF
• Much, much more…

This week’s show is brought to you by Okta. They are, of course, the identity and auth giant and one of the few sponsors we actually approached last year for 2020 because, well, they are very good at what they do. This week Marc will be joining us to talk about a privacy-related topic. The discussion is nuanced, but it’s basically about how the public perception of privacy risks has diverged from the reality/ Further, that the COVID-19 crisis and the advent of digital contact tracing apps have actually brought general concerns around digital privacy to the fore.

You can subscribe to the new Risky Business newsletter, Seriously Risky Business, here.

You can subscribe to our new YouTube channel here.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Australia “under attack” - a wrap
• Microsoft releases more security protections for E5 customers
• US to introduce “anti encryption” bill
• Shady encrypted phone company owned by the cops
• NSA to offer filtered DNS services to defence industry
• MORE

This week’s sponsor is Kasada. They offer a service that eliminates synthetic/bot traffic from the web. Former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is an investor and has joined Kasada’s board. Kasada’s CEO Pascal Podvin is this week’s sponsor guest.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This podcast is brought to you by the Cyber Initiative at the Hewlett Foundation. They gave us a grant so we can do these podcast interviews that have relevance to cyber policy, so big thanks to the Cyber Initiative at the Hewlett Foundation for funding this work.

Today we’re chatting with Citizen Lab Senior Researcher John Scott-Railton about the work they did investigating the Indian hacker-for-hire firm BellTrox.

For those of you who didn’t catch the news, The Citizen Lab, which operates out of the Munk School of Global Affairs at the University of Toronto, dropped a huge report a couple of weeks back that lays Belltrox’s operations bare. As you’ll hear this company attempted to hack tens of thousands of email accounts belonging to everyone from government officials to hedge fund managers and activists.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Facebook commissioned custom 0day to de-cloak child sex predator
• IP stack bugs to plague IoT, ICS for years
• Sandworm was doxxed by the NSA and hardly anyone noticed
• Congress demands answers on 2015 Juniper NetScreen back door investigation
• Amazon, Microsoft join moratorium on sale of facial recognition to police
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Signal Sciences. And instead of having one of their staff on the show, they nominated one of their customers to appear instead. So in this week’s sponsored segment we’re going to hear from Keith Hoodlet. Keith is currently the Senior Manager of Application Experience at Thermo Fisher Scientific, a $137 billion company. He built their appsec program and he’ll be along later on to talk through all of that. It’s a rapid-fire interview about how he was able to get started and make a dent quickly. Keith used to co-host the Application Security Weekly podcast and he’s worked for Bugcrowd and Veracode. He’s a cool guy, it’s a great interview, make sure you stick around for that one.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Full scale of Indian hacker-for-hire firm revealed
• IBM exits facial recognition
• Contact tracing apps flop
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by AttackIQ.

AttackIQ’s Chris Kennedy will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about how for some organisations threat intelligence has moved from a nice-to-have to being central to blue team efforts. As you’ll hear he says MITRE ATT&CK makes threat intel actionable, and some orgs playing on hard mode are really kicking some goals that way.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

The Soap Box podcasts we run here at Risky.Biz are wholly sponsored affairs – everyone you hear in a soap box podcast, paid to be here.

The idea is vendors get to come on to the show and chat about their products, what their stuff does, the thinking behind it, so on and so on.

Today we’re hearing from Justin McCarthy of StrongDM.

StrongDM is a bit of a niche player – essentially what they do is make a product that provisions secure access to engineers who need to access various back end services.

You can think of them as an identity aware proxy of sorts, but for engineers. So instead of provisioning regular users with access to web applications like a typical identity aware proxy, a StrongDM user will use the product to get access to the production database, or to kubernetes, or other services like SSH.

And since the COVID crisis kicked off, business has gone pretty berserk.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• NSA warns of Sandworm Exim exploitation
• Huawei CFO extradition process to continue
• Google TAG implicates Indian hacker-for-hire outfits in espionage
• Black lives matter
• F–k police brutality

This week’s sponsor interview is with Marco Slaviero of Thinkst Canary. He’ll be talking through a few of the partnerships Thinkst has entered into over the years. He’ll also talk a bit about some new Canary integrations, such as a new one with HD Moore’s Rumble.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This feature podcast series is produced with the assistance of the Hewlett Foundation’s Cyber Initiative. They gave us a grant so we could spend more time focussing on issues around cyber policy, and today we’re really going to hook in to a topic that’s near and dear to my heart: alternative approaches to dealing with ransomware.

Regular listeners to the podcast would know that for the last year or so, my cohost Adam Boileau and I have been talking a lot about how governments might involve non law enforcement agencies in a response to the big game ransomware epidemic. To discuss that, we’re joined by Bobby Chesney, the co-founder of the Lawfare blog and a very highly respected figure in US national security circles.

After we hear from Bobby we’re chatting with Mieke Eoyang about more traditional cyber law enforcement concepts. Mieke is the Vice President of Third Way’s national security program and she’ll be joining us to tell us how traditional cybercrime enforcement might be improved.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• German intelligence warns of widespread Russian infrastructure hacks
• NGOs urge COVID-19 hack de-escalation
• UK mulls total Huawei ban… we think it’s a done deal
• DHS warning on 5G “moronavirus”
• Wen jailbreak? NOW JAILBREAK!!
• iOS 14 leaks
• Much, much more…

This week’s sponsor interview is with Casey Ellis, the CTO of Bugcrowd. As you’ll hear, Bugcrowd did a survey of managers in security to see if their attitudes around work from home had changed since the COVID-19 crisis, and yes, they have. Casey also tells us about Bugcrowd’s latest LevelUp virtual conference. That conversation led to him sharing some interesting insights about trends amongst the crowd of registered testers on Bugcrowd’s platform.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• easyJet breach linked to Chinese APT
• Israel claims credit for attack against Iranian port
• Chinese-linked crew behind Taiwan energy hax
• Crypto-wars reignite over Pensacola shooter’s phone
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Gigamon Threat Insight. Will Peteroy is our sponsor guest in this week’s show and he drops by with a pretty sobering message: large companies are provisioning VPN access to all and sundry right now because of the COVID-19 crisis and ransomware crews are sailing right on in on the back of that access.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This isn’t the normal, weekly Risky Business podcast, Soap Box is the wholly sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky.Biz where vendors pay us money to come on to the show and talk about topics that interest them.

Today we’re speaking with Jesse Rothstein, the co-founder and CTO of ExtraHop Networks. ExtraHop is a network security play, but they started off more in the application monitoring and performance space before gradually moving into security over time.

In this interview Jesse talks about network security monitoring, ExtraHop’s history, and what people are using the ExtraHop tech to do during the COVID-19 crisis.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• US takes aim at China over vaccine hax
• ??? takes aim at Iranian port infrastructure over ???
• Iran attacks Gilead pharma
• Zoom acquires Keybase
• Thunderbolt research discussed
• US to drop more DPRK malware
• Ransomware targets European hospital group
• Australian flu vaccine distribution disrupted by ransomware
• More!

CMD’s co-founder and CEO Jake King joins us in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about what happened when he came on to the show a couple of months ago to spruik their new freemium offering. There was a stampede! It’s a hit! So he’ll be along to tell us what shook out of that whole process, and also about what he’s seeing people use the CMD product for since the COVID-19 crisis began.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Salt framework 1Day wreaks havoc
• Toll Group hit with ransomware attack. Again.
• Germans indict APT28 operator
• Ransomware a key word in SEC filings
• Much, much more!

This week’s show is brought to you by Remediant. They offer software that lets you get privileged accounts under control very quickly. In this week’s sponsor interview we’re chatting with Remediant’s COO Paul Lanzi and Julie Smith, the executive director of the Identity Defined Security Alliance (IDSA). We’ll be talking about what the IDSA actually is and what its goals are.

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Snake Oilers isn’t the regular Risky Business podcast, if you’re looking for that just scroll back to one of the numbered episodes in our podcast feed. Snake Oilers is the wholly sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky.Biz where vendors give us money so they can come on to the show and pitch you their sweet, sweet Snake Oil.

In this edition of snake oilers we’ll hear from:

• David Cottingham of Airlock Digital pitches the Crowdstrike/Airlock two piece combo meal deal
• Marc Rogers of Okta talks passwordless authentication and pitches modern SSO generally
• John Emmitt of Kaseya pops in to pitch the VSA endpoint management agent

Links to the vendors are in the show notes. Enjoy!

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Spy companies pitch ridiculously invasive approaches to contact tracing
• NSO Group busted running c2 boxes in USA according to WhatsApp lawsuit
• Australian government releases contact tracing app, no idea if it works
• Chinese telcos to get boot from USA
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Senetas. This week’s sponsor interview is with listener favourite, Senetas CTO Julian Fay. He’ll be along in this week’s show to talk about an open source project Senetas has put together – oqs-engine.

It’s an OpenSSL engine plugin you can go grab right now if you want to play around with Open Quantum Safe encryption algorithms. Senetas didn’t write the algorithms, but they have squeezed them into this handy OpenSSL engine plugin package. Julian drops in to tell us all about that.

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On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Czechs claim state-backed healthcare sector attack preparation
• Pompeo goes full cyber berserker
• New iOS exploit chain targets Uyghur diaspora
• Zoom 0day for $500k? Tell him he’s dreamin’.

This week’s show is brought to you by Trail of Bits. Dan Guido is this week’s sponsor guest and he’s talking about the future of secure, app-based voting.

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Snake Oilers is a wholly sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky.Biz where vendors come on to the show to pitch their wonderful, wonderful, magical snake oil to you, the listeners.

In today’s podcast you’ll hear from:

• Kenn White from MongoDB talking about client-side field level encryption
• AlphaSOC’s Chris McNab talking about their latest – they’re not just doing DNS analytics anymore
• SecureStack are making developer-friendly cloud security, provisioning and visibility tooling

Enjoy!

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Details about Apple and Google’s contact tracing API and OS changes
• Alex Stamos joins Zoom as outside consultant
• More Zoom news
• US government weighs China Telecom ban following BGP hijacking
• Travelex paid $2.3m to decrypt files in ransomware attack.

This week’s show is brought to you by AttackIQ. They make a breach and attack simulation platform that you can use to figure out which of your security controls are actually working. Carl Wright of AttackIQ will join the show to talk about the new, free online training they’re offering.

If you’re stuck at home like half the planet right now and you’re interested in operationalising MITRE ATT&CK then you can check out AttackIQ academy.

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On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• ASD launches offensive action against criminals
• Bio-tech firms working on COVID-19 targeted by ransomware
• Iran targets WHO
• Did you hear there’s a security issue with Zoom? You might not have heard. Don’t worry we’ll tell you about it
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Yubico, makers of the Yubikey devices.

Yubico’s Chief Solutions Officer Jerrod Chong will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to talk through a few things: what is he seeing out there among users? As you’ll hear, he’s seeing what all of us are seeing, a massive rush to enable remote working. Jerrod also us through some new stuff Yubico is planning, from managed credential services through to biometric Yubikeys. Don’t miss it!

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Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This podcast is brought to you by the Hewlett Foundation. They provided us with a grant to support us doing some podcasts about cybersecurity issues that touch on policy. Regular listeners would have heard some of these special podcasts already.

Today’s guest is Jennifer Morrell. She’s a partner with Elections Group and is a recognised expert on election audits.

We were originally scheduled to record this interview just a few short weeks ago, but the COVID-19 crisis really hit and we had to postpone. And it’s a good thing we did, too, because the issues facing elections today are substantially different to the issues facing elections even a few weeks ago. The whole world has just shifted.

So, instead of having the usual conversation about risk limiting audits, voting machine and tally/counting infrastructure security, we had this conversation instead. How on earth do you run an election during a pandemic? There’s a tl;dr here – e-voting is still a pipe dream but internet supported vote-by-mail is where things will land.

I hope you enjoy this podcast.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• KSA uses SS7 to track its citizens in USA
• Governments begin virus tracking through personal devices
• FBI warns of Iran-linked crew in yer supply chains
• Voatz gets booted from HackerOne
• All the cloud and Zoom drama

(PLEASE NOTE: This is a re-post. Looks like our CDN mangled the initial mp3 for some regions. Should work ok now. - Pat)

This week’s show is brought to you by Signal Sciences. Instead of interviewing one of their people, they suggested we interview Andrew Becherer in this week’s sponsor interview.

Andrew runs security for Iterable, but before that he ran the security program at DataDog. He’ll be along after this week’s news to talk about how much easier it is to stand up a security program in 2020 as opposed to the last time he did it five or so years ago

You can subscribe to the new Risky Business newsletter, Seriously Risky Business, here.

You can subscribe to our new YouTube channel here.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• KSA uses SS7 to track its citizens in USA
• Governments begin virus tracking through personal devices
• FBI warns of Iran-linked crew in yer supply chains
• Voatz gets booted from HackerOne
• All the cloud and Zoom drama

This week’s show is brought to you by Signal Sciences. Instead of interviewing one of their people, they suggested we interview Andrew Becherer in this week’s sponsor interview.

Andrew runs security for Iterable, but before that he ran the security program at DataDog. He’ll be along after this week’s news to talk about how much easier it is to stand up a security program in 2020 as opposed to the last time he did it five or so years ago

You can subscribe to the new Risky Business newsletter, Seriously Risky Business, here.

You can subscribe to our new YouTube channel here.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

In this (sponsored) podcast Akamai’s CTO of Security Strategy Patrick Sullivan talks us through the basics of identity-aware proxies. With more and more internal applications being served to newly external users, identity-aware proxies are the new hotness.

Akamai isn’t the only company that offers an identity-aware proxy product, but it was a relatively early mover in the space offering the service since 2016.

Obviously there are some massive shifts happening right now with so many people stuck working at home right now. That means Akamai’s identity-aware proxy service – and its network more broadly – is getting a pretty serious workout right now. What are the quick wins with a technology like this? Where are the wins harder?

Patrick Sullivan joined me to talk about identity-aware proxies and what’s been happening on Akamai’s tubes over the last couple of weeks.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Azure resource constraints hit Europe
• Should we unleash surveillance on COVID-19, privacy be damned?
• Browser maintainers cease new releases
• South Korea-linked APT crew attacks World Health Organization
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Thinks Canary.

Thinkst’s Haroon Meer joins the show this week to talk about what he tells customers when they ask him if Thinkst could go rogue and own all their customers.

You can subscribe to the new Risky Business newsletter, Seriously Risky Business, here.

You can subscribe to our new YouTube channel here.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Around 50 hospitals around the world are less likely to get popped in ransomware attacks this week, thanks largely to a loose band of InfoSec pros that banded together to help healthcare providers during the COVID-19 crisis.

While they aren’t yet going after ransomware gangs in vigilante-style retribution, the group’s pro bono work has already helped pinpoint over 50 healthcare organizations running vulnerable versions of Citrix NetScalers or Pulse Secure VPN gateways.

Vulnerable VPN endpoints have been targeted by several ransomware gangs in recent months, and despite promises from some groups not to target healthcare organizations, hospital networks and the medical supply chain continue to fall victim.

The voluntary threat intel and hunting effort has been welcome help for Errol Weiss, chief security officer at the Health Information Sharing and Analysis Center (H-ISAC), which has taken on the role of aggregating and disclosing vulnerability information collected by the group to affected healthcare providers.

The group of independent researchers - which now numbers around 200 - has no name. Most of its members prefer anonymity and volunteer outside of work hours. So far they have provided H-ISAC data from honeypots set up to detect opportunistic scanning activity. They also scanned the internet for IP addresses hosting vulnerable VPN endpoints, from which H-ISAC extracted a list of 50 healthcare providers. H-ISAC has sent those organisations slinks to technical write-ups on the vulnerabilities in question, as well as generic mitigation advice, irrespective of whether they are H-ISAC members.

Weiss is optimistic the advisories will be acted on. “Based on our prior experience, most [hospitals] will pay attention and do something,” he said. The hospitals will be prompted with further information if their systems continue to show up in scans, he said.

Ohad Zaidenberg, one of the few public figures working to corral volunteers, told Risky Business the group has only “just started.”

“From tomorrow, we will start to work actively,” he said, but was coy as to what the next phase of their program involves.

Healthcare CSOs we spoke to this week were grateful for the camaraderie and generosity of their industry peers. But they also cautioned to not expect too much of hospitals under strain.

“The offers of intel-sharing and threat hunting is only useful to the extent that hospitals have the capacity and capability to consume it,” said Christopher Neal, CSO of Ramsay Health Care, which operates a global network of 480 medical facilities in 11 countries. In most hospital networks, Neal said, there are insufficient resources available to act on the information - even prior to the coronavirus outbreak.

Neal wants to see “clearer public policy arguments to increase funding for security programs” in healthcare.

Weiss said that he is keen to receive more Indicators of Compromise (both atomic indicators and TTPs) about ransomware attacks, as well as decryption methods for various strains of the malware. But he recognizes the difficulties that might emerge as the initiative scales. Automation may be required to filter and sort through the volume of data coming in and to prepare actionable reports.

Still, he said, “I’d rather have that problem than the reverse.”

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Coronavirus phishing lures are everywhere
• Czech hospital ransomwared during crisis
• Voatz mobile voting app destroyed by Trail of Bits audit
• We recap yesterday’s livestream
• Windows SMBv3 bug probably not such a big deal
• ALL the week’s news

This week’s sponsor interview is with Sam Crowther, founder of Kasada. They do bot detection and mitigation and apparently they’re quite good at it. Sam joins the show to talk through the new greyhatter of anti-anti-bot. It’s actually a really fun conversation, that one, so stick around for it.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

If you don’t know already, all guests who appear on the Risky Business Soap Box podcast paid to be here. These podcasts are promotional, but as regular listeners know, they’re not just mindless recitations of marketing talking points.

This edition of Soap Box is brought to you by Trend Micro, which is a company that’s in a really interesting position at the moment.

With Symantec acquired by Broadcom, which only really cares about the biggest 500 companies in the world, Sophos absorbed, Borg-style, by Thoma Bravo and McAfee sitting in the corner eating its paste, there’s an opportunity for a new “portfolio” security software firm to emerge, and Trend wants to be it.

Jon Clay is Trend’s director of global threat communications and he joined me for this conversation about ransomware, how EDR is becoming “just another feature,” and what the role for a “portfolio” company in infosec is going to be in the future.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Two Exabeam engineers sick with Coronavirus following RSA attendance
• Hung jury in Joshua Schulte Vault7 trial
• Qihoo 360 tries to “pull an APT1” but it was just weird and awkward instead
• Corellium releases Android for iPhone hardware toolkit
• Much, much more.

This week’s sponsor interview is with Scott Kuffer of Nucleus Security. They have built a web application that pulls together feeds from all your vulnscanners and vulnerability-related software (Snyk, Burp, whatever), normalises it then lets you slice it, dice it, and send it through to the most relevant project owner/dev team. It’s insanely popular stuff, and Scott pops along this week to talk about vulnerability management and what his last year has looked like as Nucleus’s business has boomed.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

These Soap Box podcasts are wholly sponsored. That means everyone you hear on one of these editions of the show, paid to be here. But that’s ok, because we have interesting sponsors!

Today’s sponsor is AttackIQ. They make an attack and breach simulation platform. They started sponsoring risky biz when they were a little baby startup, but these days, as you’ll hear, attack sim is actually emerging as a budget line item, particularly for larger companies.

They use the platform to test their existing controls, figure out where they have gaps or bad products, then kick on to planning from there… then retest, evaluate, plan, implement, etc etc etc.

For a lot of organisations, something like this is going to be really helpful. Another super helpful thing is that AttackIQ is all in on MITRE ATT&CK.

AttackIQ is, in fact, one of the first vendors I know of that jumped on the MITRE ATT&CK bandwagon. They got in early, and this podcast is mostly going to be focussed on ATT&CK. Chris Kennedy is AttackIQ’s CISO and VP of customer success! He did one of these soap boxes last year and it was really popular with the CISOs who tune in to risky biz.

He joined me for this discussion about MITTRE ATT&CK; where it’s at, where it’s going, how people are using it and how AttackIQ is using it to make its products more useful.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Ransomware shutters US natural gas plants
• Huawei hit with huge indictment
• Voatz mobile voting app shredded by MIT, dust-up ensues
• The latest from the Vault7 trial
• Reality Winner seeking clemency
• Ring to force all users on to 2FA
• Israeli court rules Facebook must reinstate NSO staff profiles
• USG drops more North Korean samples
• OpenSSH gets Fido/U2F support

This week’s sponsor interview is with Dave Cottingham from Airlock Digital.

They make whitelisting software that’s actually useable. And until I did this interview I didn’t know that their agent actually does host hardening as well, which is pretty cool. Since we last spoke they’ve also popped up in CrowdStrike’s app store thingy, which means a bunch of you Crowdstrike customers will be able to dabble in some whitelisting if you want to.

Dave joins the show to talk about a bunch of stuff, including their experience having Silvio Cesare do a code audit on their agent.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Soap Box podcasts are fully sponsored which means everyone you hear on these editions of the show paid to be here. If you’re looking for the regular, weekly Risky Business podcast, just scroll one back in your podcast feed.

But you know what? I wouldn’t recommend it, because this edition of Soap Box is top notch. In it we’re joined by Jake King, a co-founder of CMD Security.

CMD makes Linux security software, and I love their approach mostly because, well, it’s simple. It has two main functions – visibility and control – but both of these functions focus on execution. The visibility piece is “which user executed what?” and the control piece is “only let user X execute Y”. The idea here is you can apply an additional layer of control over user actions, but obviously the visibility aspect to this is pretty useful at driving decisions around what sort of limits to put on various accounts.

Jake has fronted this edition of the show with an exclusive offer to Risky Business listeners, which is free use of their software. Obviously you won’t get access to absolutely all its features, but certainly enough of them to be very, very useful. They’re getting to the point where they can do this – throw out most of the functionality and just sell the icing on the cake to companies who want it. You can register for early access to the free trial at cmd.com/risky.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Chinese operators indicted over Equifax breach, more indictments coming
• Alleged backdoor in Huawei lawful intercept features
• Data on 6.4m Israelis exposed by political party app
• Iowa caucus app was a pile of crap, 4chan clogged up caucus night phones
• Corp.com is up for sale. That’s a lotta hashes.
• Much, much more.

This week’s show is brought to you by Corelight.

Corelight’s Richard Bejtlich joins the show this week in the sponsor slot to talk about what the company is doing to try to build the open source community behind Zeek, the tool its products are based on.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Iowa app falls over, social and mainstream media chaos ensues
• Twitter acknowledges state-backed API abuse
• CDA 230 under review. Uh oh.
• Toll Group ransomware
• ICS-compatible ransomware spotted in wild
• UN got owned pretty hard
• Is Joshua Schulte The Shadow Brokers? A theory
• Much, much more.

This week’s show is brought to you by Okta.

Okta’s Simon Thorpe will be along this week to talk about a new trend they’re seeing and obviously encouraging – enterprises ditching Microsoft’s Active Directory. It’s a cloud, cloud, cloud, cloud, world these days. and in the year 2020, you might want to actually ask yourself – do you still need to be using AD?

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

In this edition of the Soap Box podcast we’re joined by Zane Lackey, a co-founder of Signal Sciences.

Signal Sciences makes, in essence, a “next generation” Web Application Firewall, or WAF. Signal Sciences is a pretty well-established startup these days with a zillion customers, so he has some real insight into what’s happening out there in webapp land.

In this conversation he has some really interesting things to say: First, there’s a rush to Azure happening right now. It has become the platform of choice for all sorts of organisations.

He also has some really interesting things to say about how to protect web applications from logic flaws. Some simple ideas that should really help lock things down.

Enjoy!

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• The FTI report on the Bezos incident is a massive let down
• UK lets Huawei into 5G build
• SeaTurtle campaign pinned on Turkey
• Mitsubishi owned through its AV solution
• Ransomware crews owning unpatched Citrix boxes
• Much, much more.

This week’s sponsor guest is Sherrod DeGrippo of Proofpoint. She’s a senior director of threat research there and she’ll be along to talk about the Emotet malware. Despite being spray and pray malware, it’s pretty successful because it operates at such ridiculous scale. Sherrod joins us with details.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This podcast is brought to you by the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. The Foundation funds a lot of interesting people and work in the cybersecurity space and they’re supporting this special podcast series examining topics of interest to cyber policy makers.

In this podcast we’re going to hear from Alexa O’Brien. She’s currently studying a Masters in Applied Intelligence at Georgetown University. She’s also working on an ethical framework for the applied intelligence discipline – collection, analysis and the like – for media practitioners.

Alexa is also a journalist. Her most recent major work is a July 2019 analysis of the US media’s coverage of civilian harm in the war against ISIS, I’ve linked through to that in the show notes below.

Before she worked as an established journalist, Alexa covered Chelsea Manning’s trial at Fort Meade on her blog. Her transcript of the proceedings were a tremendous help to the wider media, and it was this work that briefly pulled her into the Wikileaks “scene”.

It wasn’t a good fit.

Alexa joined me for this freewheeling discussion about intelligence, ethics, moral authority and signs that not everything is as it seems in the Wikileaks universe.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• MBS fingered in Bezos dick pic breach
• Glenn Greenwald facing cybercrime charges over Vaza Jato Telegram leaks
• Citrix finally patches 90s-style ADC bugs
• IE 0day doing the rounds, no patch available
• PoCs for 0601 drop
• Much, much more…

This week’s show is sponsored by VMRay, a sandbox-based malware analyser. You throw a sample into it and it spits out all sorts of useful information. Rather than having one of its own staff in this week’s sponsor slot, VMRay has put forward one of its customers instead. Expel is a managed security provider, and it is making heavy use of VMRay to do malware analysis. Tyler Fornes is a Senior Detection and Response Analyst at Expel and he joined me to talk about how they’re using VMRay to actually make life easier.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• NSA drops a sweet Microsoft crypto bug
• Burisma targeted by GRU. 2016 all over again?
• Citrix users having a bad time
• Intrusion Truth targets APT40
• No more BYOD for US soldiers in Middle East
• Much, much more

We have a new sponsor in this week’s show – ExtraHop Networks. Network monitoring is dead! Long live network monitoring!

Matt Cauthorn is ExtraHop’s VP of cybersecurity engineering and he’ll join us this week to talk about recent moves by cloud providers to offer full virtual network mirror ports out of their infrastructure.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

*Credit for this week’s headline goes to @appsecbloke.

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Alex Stamos discuss all the week’s news, including:

• Will Iran cyber all the cybers?
• ToTok chat app alleged to be UAE spy tool
• China makes moves on own OS
• Big game ransomware hits crisis levels
• WSJ carries water for NSO Group
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you Bugcrowd. We’ll be hearing from Bugcrowd’s Casey Ellis in this week’s sponsor interview. He’ll be talking about the US federal government’s decision to force all departments into accepting bug reports – he thinks this is a move that will have a big impact on the wider security ecosystem.

Links to everything are below!

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• China to ditch foreign hardware, software, from government use
• Huawei sues FCC
• More background on Project Raven
• Senate hearings into encryption
• Reddit fingers alleged RU disinfo campaign
• “Evil Corp” hackers have lots of money, terrible taste
• Ransomware attacks galore
• Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with Haroon Meer of Thinkst Canary. And we’re going to do the typical thing and have a look forward to what we can expect to see in security next year. But we’re going less for the big, dumb predictions and more picking the trends we expect to strengthen over the next year.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

Our guest in this edition is Will Peteroy. He’s currently the CTO of security at Gigamon after his company, ICEBRG, was acquired by Gigamon last year. Will has a long and interesting background in security.

As you’ll hear, he worked on the security team at Microsoft once upon a time. He even co-wrote Microsoft’s gigantic paper on mitigating “pass the hash” attacks some years ago. He also did some time with the “Department of Defense” some time ago. He’s a knowledgable fella.

And he’s been spending considerable time lately focussing on the issue of Zero Trust Networks.

Zero Trust is one of those things that’s super simple in theory, but absolutely, awfully complicated when you actually try to do it. So Will joined me for this chat about Zero Trust networks, how to define them, how to transition to them, what some of the steps are and thinking is. It’s a great conversation for any CSOs who are working through some of the issues that pop up when they’re transitioning to ZT architectures.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Ethereum developer Virgil Griffith charged for allegedly teaching DPRK about cryptocurrency
• DHS/CISA government vulnerability disclosure program takes shape, looks good
• Adobe discloses Magento Marketplace data breach
• Fully patched Android devices targeted
• IM-RAT takedown
• Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with Brian Robison of BlackBerry Cylance. He pops along to talk about some interesting research they’ve done on mobile malware.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• RIPE has officially run out of v4 addresses
• NSO workers sue Facebook to get their accounts back
• Mike Pompeo, Republican lawmakers keep Crowdstrike conspiracy theory alive
• Bugs, hacks, ransomware disasters and more.

This week’s sponsor interview is with Sally Carson of Duo Security. Sally has been a designer for over 20 years, joining Duo in 2015 to build the company’s Product Design and User Research practice from the ground up. Duo now employs one designer for every five users, which is an extremely generous ratio.

As you’ll hear, Sally thinks empathy is the key to designing usable technology.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

This is a Soap Box edition of the show. Soap Box isn’t our regular weekly news program. If you’re looking for that one, scroll one show back in your podcast feed.

Soap Box is a wholly sponsored series of podcasts we do here at Risky Business where vendors give us money to appear. And while these are sponsored episodes they’ve actually become almost as popular as the weekly show. They started off about half as popular, and then I guess people gradually realised they don’t actually suck, so here we are.

Trend’s head of cloud research, Mark Nunnikhoven, is our guest in this edition and we have a pretty wide ranging conversation. A big part of this conversation is us talking about the differences between locking down a corporate network vs locking down a modern application production stack… and there’s a very funny part of this interview where Mark points out that AV scanning for Docker images actually makes sense. Seriously.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Phineas Phisher returns, claims credit for Cayman bank hack and offers bounties for activist hijinks
• Microsoft cautiously backs DoH
• Huawei granted another 90-day stay of execution in US market
• Iranian APT crew targeting ICS supply chain
• Alexei Burkov extradition complete, appears in US court
• Some very funny stuff is happening to GPS in the Shanghai area
• Louisiana government ransomwared, emerges relatively unscathed
• Official Monero binaries trojaned. Lol.
• Much, much more!

This week’s show is brought to you by Senetas. Rob Linton from Senetas joins the show this week to talk about its O365 integration for its SureDrop product, a new feature that will be of interest to many Risky Business listeners.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Two ex Twitter employees charged with spying for KSA
• US border device searches now require suspicion after ACLU win
• Unredacted Corellium lawsuit response drops
• Ransomware attacks on hospitals increase mortality
• Much, much more!

This week’s sponsor interview is with Stephan Chenette, the co-founder and CTO of AttackIQ. We talk to him about some CSOs playing Pokemon Go with MITRE ATT&CK (“Gotta catch ‘em all!”) and about recent ATT&CK developments.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

The Soap Box podcast is a wholly sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky.biz, which means everyone you hear on it paid to appear.

This edition of the Soap Box is brought to you by Capsule8.

It’s taken a long time, but over the last couple of years we’ve seen a meaningful Linux security software market emerge. It makes sense, I guess, considering the modern production environment is all glued together from various Linux systems. So, we’re seeing some interesting approaches to the Linux security challenge pop up.

Capsule8 makes detection and visibility software for Linux. You can use it to spot various types of funny behaviour on your Linux systems. Brandon Edwards is Capsule8’s chief scientist and he is our guest today.

We speak about a few things, but primarily this conversation centres on the fact that modern production environments have become so complex it’s almost impossible to comprehend how they work. We’ve lost insight, and we’ve even lost the ability to understand how individual security flaws can impact our wider production environments.

So we’re going to talk about complexity in modern production environments, and then we’ll talk a bit about Capsule8’s approach to the Linux security challenge. Enjoy!

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Mark Piper discuss all the week’s security news, including:

• NSO Group malware turning up in some unexpected places
• Bluekeep mass exploitation finally begins
• Owning smart home devices with friggin’ lasers
• Two plead guilty to hacks on Lynda.com, Uber
• Imperva CEO departs following breach
• TLS Delegated Credentials sound like A VERY GOOD IDEA
• Cybercommand heads to Montenegro
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary. Haroon Meer and Adrian Sanabria from Thinkst recently did a keynote talk at the Virus Bulletin conference in London. Titled “The Security Products We Deserve,” it’s a stinging critique of the security product lifecycle. VC firms keeping stupid ideas alive, analyst firms being parasites, vendors not doing security testing on their equipment and so much more. We’ll be talking to Haroon Meer about that keynote in this week’s sponsor interview, which will run after this week’s news segment.

Links to everything are below.

This podcast is brought to you by the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, and it’s the second in a series of podcasts we’re doing that are all about cyber policy.

The Foundation funds a lot of interesting people and work in the cybersecurity space. So the idea behind this podcast series is pretty simple: we talk to Hewlett’s grant recipients, or experts in Hewlett’s network, about pressing policy issues and turn those conversations into podcasts. The whole idea is to get some policy perspectives out there among the Risky Business audience, which, funnily enough, includes a lot of policymakers.

This podcast features both Eric Rosenbach and Robert M Lee talking about ICS security.

Eric is the co-director of the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School. He also heads the Defending Digital Democracy project there. Eric has a very long and somewhat fascinating resume. As United States Assistant Secretary of Defense he led the US Defense Department’s efforts to counter cyberattacks by Iran and North Korea on US critical infrastructure. He’s also worked as a Chief Security Officer in the private sector and served as Pentagon chief of staff from 2015-2017.

Robert M Lee is the founder of Dragos Inc, a very well known company in the ICS/OT security space. Rob started out in infosec with the US Air Force as a Cyber Warfare Operations Officer tasked to the NSA, but as you’ll hear, Rob is actually pretty optimistic about the ICT/OT security challenge.

On this week’s show Patrick and gust co-host Alex Stamos discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Facebook files suit against NSO Group
• Corellium responds to Apple suit
• Indian nuclear power plant administrative network likely attacked by DPRK
• Mass defacement in Georgia. Old schooooool!
• Fancy Bear targets 2020 Olympics
• FCC proposes subsidies for telcos to rip and replace Huawei, ZTE equipment
• City of Johannesburg data held to ransom, but it’s not ransomware
• Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with Jake King of CMD Security. The topic is applying the MITRE ATT&CK framework

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Alex on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Fresh details on Turla’s hostile takeover of Oilrig
• Russians doing very interesting things with “tagged” TLS
• China wants an aerospace sector so a lot of people got a lot of owned
• Imperva releases breach details
• Zendesk cops to 2016 breach
• German manufacturer, US transport tech company sunk by ransomware
• NordVPN gets owned
• AVAST owned. Lots. Again.
• Welcome to Video takedown
• Much, much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Trail of Bits! We’ll be hearing from Trail of Bits practice lead for assurance Stefan Edwards all about their work on a recent security audit of Kubernetes. As it turns out, Kubernetes isn’t actually a horror show, but Stefan thinks you might want to run a hosted instance unless you’re a real expert.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

In this edition of Snake Oilers Patrick speaks to:

• Justin McCarthy of StrongDM

StrongDM makes a protocol proxy that you can use to provision production services (like Kubernetes and SQL access) to users without them requiring full VPN access to prod. This is very cool stuff, if you manage a large prod environment that’s suffering from VPN sprawl you’ll want to check this one out.

• Nicholas Davis of Rapid7

Nicholas is the senior technical product manager for InsightIDR. InsightIDR is a SIEM/EDR play that integrates a bunch of stuff. These days Rapid7 is really emphasising the holistic nature of InsightIDR, rather than the endpoint part, and Nicholas joins the show to talk about that.

• Preston Hogue of F5 Networks

F5 Networks recently acquired NGINX as a part of a push to become cloud-relevant. Their strategy is to allow for F5 security smarts to be inserted basically anywhere and anyhow you want. Preston joins the show to talk about that!

Links to our Snake Oilers sponsors are below!

These Soap Box podcasts are a wholly sponsored series of podcasts we do here at Risky.Biz, so everyone you hear on the Soap Box podcast paid to be here.

But that’s ok, because we’ve got some great sponsors. This podcast is brought to you by Yubico, makes of the Yubikey devices. These podcasts with Yubico have basically turned into an annual thing. Jerrod Chong is the Chief Solutions Officer at Yubico and he joined me for this conversation about what’s new in Yubico-land. They’ve launched some new stuff, including Yubikeys with lightning adapters for iOS devices, and Jerrod also talks about hardware 2FA moving increasingly to the mainstream.

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On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Apple jailbreakers partying in the streets
• Donald Trump targets Crowdstrike over 4chan conspiracy nonsense
• Ransomware absolutely everywhere this week
• Horror-show VxWorks bugs are popping up in other stacks
• OnApp fixes mother of all misconfigurations
• More SIM card issues
• Much, much more

In this week’s sponsor interview we chat with Mr Sandbox himself, VMRay’s Carsten Willems. He’s along to talk about VMRay’s involvement in a machine-learning bypass competition that happened at DEFCON earlier this year.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcast host Patrick Gray speaks to:

• Richard Bejtlich of Corelight

Richard talks about Zeek, formerly Bro, and how enterprises can use it to capture useful network information for analysis, forensics and detection purposes. Richard is an industry luminary and it’s a great interview.

• Marshal Webb of PATH Networks

Marshal explains how new technology like eBPF and XDP mean it’s possible to build DDoS mitigation rigs out of commodity hardware. That means DDoS mitigation is about to get a whole lot cheaper, and PATH is in pole position in this soon-to-be disrupted market.

• Chris Tiolo from Respond Software

Respond Software makes a decision agent for the modern SOC. They are aiming to completely replace level 1 SOC analysts so those resources can be freed up to do higher-value work. They’re offering free live and retroactive trials of their software, and it definitely belongs in the “why not take it out for a spin” category.

Some links to the company websites and blogs are below!

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Tibetans targeted in mobile malware campaign
• Iran denies cyber-attack nobody was asking about
• More news from the Middle East
• 26 nations open UN General Assembly with statement on cyber norms
• Fedex sued over company’s NotPetya response, exec share sales
• Why “quantum supremacy” isn’t a big deal. Yet.
• Much, much more

In this week’s sponsor interview we talk to Cody Wood of Signal Sciences about http request smuggling. What it is and why it’s a nightmare to fix.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• US Treasury targets DPRK APT crews
• Russia owned FBI counter surveillance team radio comms
• New details on 2016 attack against Ukraine power grid
• US Government to sue Edward Snowden for memoir profits
• Did RCMP intelligence director tip Phantom Secure on investigation?
• Much, much more!

This week’s sponsor interview is with Casey Ellis of Bugcrowd. It’s an interesting chat with Casey this week. He was at the Billington cyber conference a couple of weeks ago and he had a bunch of interesting discussions there with people in the aerospace sector.

Between recent Black Hat presentations on 787 security and the trouble Boeing has had with it’s 737-MAX, software security and resiliency is all of a sudden on the agenda in aerospace. Casey drops by to talk about all of that.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:

• Paige Thompson pleads not guilty to CapitalOne hack
• German government probes FinFisher
• Bluekeep Metasploit module dropped
• DPRK samples hit VT, courtesy of our friends in the USA
• Apple releases awful statement about mass exploitation of its devices
• Much more

This week’s show is brought to you by Blackberry Cylance. In this week’s sponsor interview we’ll be talking about US Cybercommand dropping some sweet, sweet APT28 samples on VirusTotal back in May. We’ll talk a little bit about that malware, and also have a more general discussion about CYBERCOM VT drops with Cylance research staffers Steve Barnes and Josh Lemos.

Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.

The Soap Box podcast series is a fully sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky.Biz, and that means that everyone you hear in it paid to be featured.

This edition of the Soap Box podcast is brought to you by AttackIQ and in in it we talk to its CISO and VP of customer success Chris Kennedy. And we’ll be discussing a topic of that frankly should be talked about a bit more: the MITRE ATT&CK framework.

We also talk about attack simulation and which security controls are most commonly and catastrophically misconfigured. If you’re a CISO you’ll like this one.

Alex Stamos is our news co-host this week. Patrick and Alex discuss all the week’s security news, including:

• Mass exploitation of iOS devices by Chinese govt
• Telegram moves to nix phone number enumeration “feature”
• USA targeted Iranian maritime awareness system
• Existence of Stuxnet mole revealed by Kim Zetter
• @jack gets hacked
• Much, much more

This week’s sponsor interview is with Michelle Price of AustCyber. AustCyber is the organisation here in Australia that aims to build out the Australian cyber security industry and skills base, and Michelle pops in this week to tell us all about the upcoming Australian Cyber Week.

Links to everything are below in the show notes.