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From the creators of the award-winning podcast The Cloudcast, comes this new series focused on quickly learning the basics of Cloud Computing. This on-going series of podcasts will allow anyone new to Cloud Computing to understand both the technical and business aspects. Each series will focus on a specific set of Cloud Computing topics. Topics will include Cloud Computing | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Serverless | DevOps | Big Data | ML | AI | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS | CaaS | IoT.

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A “Service Mesh” Look Ahead for 2020

SHOW: 434

DESCRIPTION: Christian Posta (@christianposta, Field CTO @soloio_inc) talks about the trends that are shaping the Service Mesh space, including emerging standards, application patterns, and interactions with API gateways. 



Topic 1 - Welcome to the show; you’ve been on PodCTL in the past. Tell us about your background, as you’ve been very active with application developers and distributed systems for quite a while.  

Topic 2 - A few years ago, Service Mesh came onto the scene as a big deal (Istio, Linkerd, etc.) and people were trying to figure out what it was, what it did, etc. The technology has evolved quite a bit, but people are still oftentimes confused. How should we think about what a Service Mesh does (or doesn’t do)? 

Topic 3 - What are the most common use-cases when Service Mesh is being used? What are some of the places where Service Mesh is discussed, but probably shouldn’t be used? (API-Gateway, code in an application, etc.)

Topic 4 - Sometimes we have a technology space that has lots of implementations (e.g. Kubernetes, Swarm, Mesos, etc.) that eventually converge into a single industry choice. But Service Mesh still has lots of implementations. Are they all really different? Will we see industry convergence around a standard? Do we need a standard?

Topic 5 - What are some of the areas where you expect that we’ll see advancements in Service Mesh in 2020?

Topic 6 -  What are some of the best ways for people to start either learning more about Service Mesh, or trying out the technology to see if it makes sense for them?


Jan 22, 2020
The Unicorn Project with Gene Kim

SHOW: 433

DESCRIPTION: Gene Kim (@RealGeneKim, Author, DevOps Researcher) talks about his new book “The Unicorn Project”, the follow-on to “The Phoenix Project, and the newest trends shaping DevOps and business success. 



Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. It’s hard to believe it’s been 7 years since you were last on the show. Before we get into the Unicorn Project, let’s talk briefly about some of the other things you’ve been doing since The Phoenix Project (DevOps Handbook, DevOps Enterprise Summit, etc.) 

Topic 2 - Let’s do a Cliff Notes version of The Unicorn Project. It picks up 2-3 years after The Phoenix Project - what are the challenges now facing Parts Unlimited?

Topic 3 - Without giving away the ending, there is a sense that the Unicorn Project team essentially says that DevOps is dead and they are going to do things a new way. Is that the message of the story?

Topic 4 - The hero of this story (Maxine) is what I’d call a “25x engineer”. She’s portrayed as super-elite in her engineering skills. I’ve also noticed that the State of DevOps report is also now adding a focus on these super-elite teams. Is that a good thing to focus on, since so few teams identify like that? 

Topic 5 - This book talks about 5 “ideals”. How would you stack rank them in terms of ease or difficulty in achieving?

  • THE FIRST IDEAL: Locality and Simplicity
  • THE SECOND IDEAL: Focus, Flow, and Joy
  • THE THIRD IDEAL: Improvement of Daily Work
  • THE FOURTH IDEAL: Psychological Safety
  • THE FIFTH IDEAL: Customer Focus 

Topic 6 - In Unicorn Project, you have a very broad set of characters. Do you do this so that a broad set of people can identify within these challenging environments? 


Jan 15, 2020
A "SaaS" Look Ahead for 2020

SHOW: 432

DESCRIPTION: Aneel Lahkani (@aneel, Go To Market Consultant and Advisor) talks about how SaaS impacts today's cloud computing decisions, the challenges of running a profitable SaaS business, migrating to SaaS services, and how public clouds compete and partner with SaaS offerings. 



Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. For anyone that doesn’t know you, tell us a little bit about your background, and some of the areas you focus on now.

Topic 2 - What is SaaS in 2020? (Delivery model, acquisition and usage model, experimentation model, etc.). Is it a finite thing, or has it been componentized? 

Topic 3 - Is it possible to build software and then make it SaaS, or do the business and software have to be built in parallel with the SaaS offering?

Topic 4 - Does anyone actually “migrate” (successfully) existing types of applications to SaaS, or should the focus of SaaS be on breaking free from old approaches? 

Topic 5 - We’re seeing many “tools” companies become “platform” companies and offer things that blur the lines between SaaS and something else (GitHub, Salesforce, etc.). Does this become the way that they compete against AWS or Azure?

Topic 6 - Why do you think AWS doesn’t have a broader set of SaaS offerings at this point? 


Jan 10, 2020
A "Data" Look Ahead for 2020

SHOW: 431

DESCRIPTION: Greg Knieriemen (@knieriemen, Director of Technology Evangelism at @NetApp) talks about the growing importance of data to reshape business, emerging data trends and standards, working around 5G networks and more.



Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. For anyone that doesn’t know you, tell us a little bit about your background, and some of the areas you focus on now.

Topic 2 - Let’s start by having an executive-level discussion about “data”. Everyone loves talking about developers and applications, but how do you explain to an executive about the value of managing data as a core business asset? What makes data so valuable in 2020?

Topic 3 -  The world used to be “big servers” + “big relational database” + “storage array”. Now that model is blow up into 100s of distributed elements, lots of technology choices, lots of locations. Is there a way to think about data in these distributed models? 

Topic 4 - What are some of the emerging data standards that people should be aware of, or learning more about? [alternatives to 5G]

Topic 5 - Data moved from a cost “liability” a while ago, to an “asset” as we started talking about Data Lakes and AI/ML models. Have you found any metrics or conversations that people understand (in the “analytics context”) about how we justify keeping data - or trying to acquire more data. 

Topic 6 - We’ve got cheaper ways to store data, faster networks coming (e.g. 5G, alternative options) and cheaper/faster CPUs (e.g. ARM). When these dynamics change, new things emerge that we’ve never thought of before. Are you starting to hear people discuss interesting new business ideas yet? 


Jan 03, 2020
2019 in Review & 2020 Predictions

SHOW: 430

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian discuss the biggest trends of 2019, and make bold cloud computing predictions for 2020. 



  • Why are Aaron and Brian both on the show recently?
  • Krispy Kreme Challenge (“The Donut Run”) fundraising
  • Announcing “The Cloudcast Basics” - coming in early 2020!! 

CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: The Cloudcast in 2019:

  • Over 1.6M+ listens, up 40% YoY
  • Guest Acquisitions: (total: 9) Cloudability (Apptio), Bromium (HPE), Docker (Mirantis), Shippable (JFrog), SignalFX (Splunk), Pivotal (VMware), NGINX (F5), ParkMyCloud (Turbonomics), Twistlock (Palo Alto) - also had 9 in 2018
  • IPO: Datadog




  • We’ll start talking about GitHub as one of the major cloud platforms, in the same way we do AWS, Azure and Google. 
  • We’re going to start seeing more and more vertical-centric AI/ML companies emerge, that curate data and provide insights-as-a-service. 
  • We’re going to start seeing companies that offer distributed versions of the large “monolithic” systems of today (Core Banking, ERP, etc.) that lets new companies and business models emerge.


  • The “trough of disillusionment” will hit Kubernetes, and it will be fine…
  • Serverless will get a new name and will hit stride
  • GitLab and HashiCorp will have breakout years

For the 1st time ever, we indulge Aaron and talk a little bit of sci-fi on the

Dec 25, 2019
2010's Decade in Review & Reader Mailbag Questions

SHOW: 429

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian discuss the biggest trends of the 2010s decade, and answer reader mailbag questions from 2019. 



  • Hype or Not?: OpenStack, HCI, Docker, Cloud Foundry (or any PaaS), Kubernetes, Blockchain, AI/ML, Serverless
  • The re-invention of Microsoft (Azure, GitHub, Open Source, dropping failed efforts (Nokia, Windows Mobile)
  • It’s hard to believe that Google is still only 3rd or 4th in public cloud (and it’s leadership is questioning its future)
  • The rise of open-source in the Enterprise, and all the challenges this created across the industry
  • The rise of developer-lead decision-making (shadow IT, mobile apps, decentralized decision-making, serverless as NoOps)
  • Everyone still sucks at security, but now it’s a headline problem
  • 10 years of DevOps discussions and most companies still haven’t figured out that it’s org-charts and culture.
  • The shift from Config-Mgmt (Ansible, Chef, Puppet, Salt) to things like Immutable infrastructure, Declarative schedulers, GitOps, etc.)


Question 1 - If you had to advise someone that’s 25, 35 and 45 about “career path” in IT, what tips might you give them? - Thomas T.

Question 2 - You guys see a lot of different technologies through the interviews. Which new ones do you think have longevity and which ones are potentially overhyped? - Michael C.

Question 3 - What “disruptive technology” is a more important skill to learn? - Erika B.

Question 4 - What the most misunderstood concept in IT today? Seema J.

Question 5 - Why do you think our industry is so obsessed with the idea that the new technology will completely eliminate the old technology? Has that ever really happened? - Jacob H.

Dec 19, 2019
Bringing DevOps to the Database with Automation

SHOW: 428

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian talk with Robert Reeves (@robertreeves, Co-Founder / CTO of @Datical) about how to bring agility to databases to match the speed of cloud-native applications.




  • Datical Homepage
  • Liquibase Homepage - leading open-source tool for database schema change management.

Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we get into a broader discussion, tell us a little bit about your background. 

Topic 2 - We talk about DevOps a lot on this show. And we talk a lot about various types of databases. But for some reason, we very rarely talk about them together. Why is that? It’s not as if the world of cloud-native applications are all stateless. 

Topic 3 - What do you see as the most common challenges that companies have with bringing databases into this world of more frequent software changes (DevOps, Agile, etc.)? 

Topic 4 - You’re involved in an open-source project called “LIquibase”, which is focused on database schema change management. How does that help database move into a more automated world? 

Topic 5 - Do you find that a lack of automation around databases is a bigger challenge from a continuous deployment perspective, or a security/patching perspective? (or both)

Topic 6 - People are very fearful of databases going down, which restricts them from making changes. How do you suggest companies getting more comfortable in making frequent changes to databases?


Dec 13, 2019
Reviewing AWS re:Invent 2019

SHOW: 427

DESCRIPTION: Brian reviews the big themes from AWS re:Invent 2019, as well as “most” of the new announcements.




Dec 07, 2019
Building an Effective Developer Program

SHOW: 426

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian talk to Mark Weitzel (@weitzlm, VP & General Manager, New Relic One at @NewRelic) about building effective developer platforms including lessons learned, best practices and trade offs to consider





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we get into a broader discussion, tell us a little bit about your background. 

Topic 2 - Before we dig into the New Relic Developer Program, we wanted to get your perspective on what “developer” means these days - Is it AppDev, DevOps, Data Scientist, Business Analyst? How do you try and put personas around different “developer” needs?

Topic 3 - One of the things I find in working with businesses that are going through transformational change (via technology) is how many don’t understand that their new world (“enabling developers”) will begin to look like a technology vendor’s approach to the market (“enabling developers”). Do you find your customers begin to adopt their internal programs to look like the program that you’ve rolled out with New Relic One? 

Topic 4 - What are some of the most important/critical aspects of the program, and how do you measure its progress, its success, or its areas to improve?

Topic 5 - How did you think about balancing the need for content for newer developers (or new to the platform) vs. more expert-level developers? 

Topic 6 - How important is community to making the program a success, and helping it scale?


Nov 27, 2019
Reviewing Microsoft Ignite 2019

SHOW: 425

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian take a look at the Docker acquisition and review the Microsoft Ignite show and announcements





Topic 1 - Insight and feel from the show floor and the event

Topic 2 -  Azure Arc

Topic 3 - Project Cortex

Topic 4 - Baby steps in GitHub integration


Nov 21, 2019
Azure Cloud Adoption Framework

SHOW: 424

DESCRIPTION: Aaron talks with Evelyn Padrino (@evepadrinosanta, Azure Customer Success) & Brian Blanchard (@brianblanchard, Azure Cloud Adoption Framework Team) about adopting cloud, patterns of adoption, use cases and how the Azure Adoption Framework is helping their customers.





Topic 1 - Welcome Evelyn and Brian. Let’s start at the start, can both you give a brief intro?

Topic 2 -  You both represent the Azure Cloud Adoption Framework team. What is it and how did it come about?

Topic 3 - You have a concept the really resonates with me and customers I’ve spoken too, the idea that no one’s cloud journey is the same. There is a formal blueprint to success. Define a strategy, plan the business outcomes, prepare the environment, implement the initial changes and migrations. From there we move to the operations stage that includes governance and management of operations.

Topic 4 - Is this a product? A service? A blueprint? What is the most common pain you see in your customers? Why?

Topic 5 - Do you have customer success stories and common examples/use cases you can share?


Nov 14, 2019
Simplifying Healthcare Interactions

SHOW: 423

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with two entrepreneurs from the MetLife Digital Accelerator powered by Techstars program about their startups (Smiletronix and LazarusAI) about how technology is helping to give people more control over their health and use AI to improve doctor's ability to detect cancer and other deadly diseases.




Smiletronix (@Smiletronix) - Yashar Faranjani (@yashar_f), Co-Founder & CEO -  Personalized dental health screenings, handheld device

  • Does this augment dentists, or eventually replace the dental check-up?
  • Doctors tend to hate (everyone being an online doctor). How have dentists reacted to this service?
  • Being based in Europe, are there unique characteristics of European markets or healthcare that make this more applicable to adoption?

Lazarus (Cambridge, MA) - Ariel Elizarov (@aelizarov12), Co-Founder & CEO - AI for cancer screenings

  • Isn’t skin cancer (and moles) a fairly well-understood science at this point? What does AI bring to the equation?
  • How is patient information (doctor notes) managed between the patient, any given doctor, and the on-going doctors on the platform?
  • Your skin is a lifelong part of your health. How would this service work over a lifetime?


Nov 07, 2019
Evolving Trust on the Internet

SHOW: 422

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with two entrepreneurs from the MetLife Digital Accelerator powered by Techstars program about their startups (The Difference, and Zogo Finance) about how people are trusting some of their most important and personal relationships and learning to new services offered via the Internet instead of face-to-face. We explore this generational change in how we've evolved to trust the Internet.




The Difference (@thedifferenceAI) - Bea Arthur (@BeaArthurLMHC), Co-Founder/CEO - on demand therapy via phone (or Alexa)

  • How has the personality profile of people changed/evolved such that they are OK with sharing personal information with “unknown” doctors?
  • How is patient information (doctor notes) managed between the patient, any given doctor, and the on-going doctors on the platform?
  • Is there a technology aspect that is reviewing calls and tagging discussions or making recommendations (e.g. helping the doctor or patient)?

Zogo Finance (@zogofinance) - Bolun Li, Co-Founder & CEO - Teaching kids personal finance through incentives

  • Who is typically creating the initial interaction for the child? (the child or the parent?)
  • What type of curriculum is involved? What’s the scope? Are there collaborative aspects between kids?
  • How do you walk the line between financial literacy learning and lack of trust for the banks since 2008?


Nov 06, 2019
Understanding HTTP/S, CDNs and Edge Proxies

SHOW: 421

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Julia Evans (@b0rk, software engineer, data scientist, ‘zine artist) about the fundamentals of HTTP/HTTPS, and the interaction of web traffic with CDNs, Load-Balancers and Edge Proxies. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we get into a broader discussion, tell us a little bit about your background. 

Topic 1a - We’ve followed your “zines” via Twitter for a while. They cover quite a large number of topics. Give us some background on how you started taking this self-learning process and turning it into a visual medium?

Topic 2 - You’ve recently been doing a bunch of work around HTTP. Most people know HTTP as the thing they type into a web-browser (sometimes). Let’s dig into why it might be important for people to know more about how the lifecycle of HTTP can impact their application performance.

Topic 3 - Lots of the content we access on the Internet is stored/cached in CDNs around the world. Walk us through the basics of how CDNs work, and some of the interactions between HTTP and CDNs that can either improve performance or generally make an application’s life miserable. 

Topic 4 - Beyond CDNs, another big element that impacts HTTP traffic is load-balancers. Many people understand how basic IP-load balancing works, but how can it be different between L4 and L7 load-balancers? 

Topic 5 - Now how does encryption factor into all of this, as things like HTTP or TLS become part of the traffic? What are some of the guidelines that either developers or infrastructure teams should be thinking about with regard to those encrypted streams? 


Oct 30, 2019
Buying & Selling SaaS Services

SHOW: 420

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Nicolas Vandenberghe (@NicolasVDB, Co-Founder at @ChiliPiper) about the buying and selling of SaaS services, how to streamline interactions, and how to better engage with potential SaaS users. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You have quite a broad background in the SaaS space. Can you tell us a little bit about your background prior to founding Chili Piper?

Topic 2 - The buying of IT services has become so distributed, not only the buyers, but the influencers, and the actual sellers. Can you help us better understand the bigger picture about the processes involved in information gathering, decision-making, and then the on-going relationship with the services being bought? 

Topic 3 - Chili Piper brings together, or orchestrates, the ability to gather and use information from lots of tools that help sales, marketing, and analytics teams (Hubspot, Marketo, Eloqua, Salesforce, Twillio, etc.). How does the work you do translate into the teams that need either a bigger picture, or sometimes a smaller more granular picture of the market?

Topic 4 - Can you talk about some examples of how your customers leverage the Chili Piper technologies to improve their performance or market perspective?

Topic 5 - Are the tools and techniques that Chili Piper brings to market specific to the SaaS business model, or could they equally be applied to other more CAPEX-centric or Contract-centric business models?


Oct 23, 2019
From the Battlefield to the Boardroom
SHOW: 419

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Sarah Catanzaro (@sarahcat21, Principal at @AmplifyPartners) about approaches to evaluate complex markets and business models.  




Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell about your background prior to joining Amplify Partners. 

Topic 2 - There’s an interesting thread that weaves its way through aspects of your career - being able to build intelligent models to understand and predict somewhat unstable environments. Can you walk us through the process of how those models and the analysis comes together? 

Topic 3 - There’s a level of responsibility through the supply-chain of our industry. I feel like VCs have a responsibility to not only spot trends, but also spot frauds. How does your background and experience help you determine good investments, or strong potential trends?  

Topic 4 - One of your focus areas is machine intelligence. What is the state of machine intelligence today, and where are some of the areas that encourage you that it can become more widely used?  

Oct 16, 2019
Building a Cloud Practice in Azure

SHOW: 418

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Joseph Landes, (@josephlandes, Chief Revenue Officer @GetNerdio) about the unique characteristics of the Azure Cloud, how MSPs are able to differentiate or partner in the market with public clouds, and how Nerdio helps bring together popular services in simple ways.  





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we talk about Nerdio, tell us about your background prior to joining the company, and about your focus today. 

Topic 2 - We spend quite a bit of time on this show talking about the technology offerings of Azure (and other clouds). Give us a sense of what the partner ecosystem of companies building enabling services on Azure looks like today. 

Topic 3 - Lets talk about how Nerdio interacts between Azure services and Managed Service Providers (MSPs). Help us understand the interaction between that ecosystem.  

Topic 4 - Traditionally, MSPs had the advantage of being regionally close to customers, and having some ability to differentiate based on vertical markets. How has their world evolved over time, what are their biggest struggles today, and how does Nerdio help them be more successful?

Topic 5 - We often look at Azure holistically, through the broad lens of 100s of services. Is it better to look at them in groups of services, targeting a specific market segment or market vertical? 


Oct 09, 2019
Developer Tools for Kubernetes

SHOW: 417

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Ellen Korbes (@ellenkorbes, Developer Relations at @garden_io) about the emerging sets of tools and frameworks to make it easier for application developers to interact with Kubernetes. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell a little bit about your background, and some of the things that you do in your day-to-day of Developer Relations with Garden.

Topic 2 - Kubernetes is a weird system because it involves containers and schedulers, neither of which developers really want to deal with. So why has Kubernetes become so popular, if it’s potentially not that friendly for developers?

Topic 3 - There has been a lot of activity in open source communities to create ways to make it easier for developers to work with Kubernetes. Some of those have been “PaaS” offerings (s2i, buildpacks, etc.), and some have been new tooling (e.g. Helm, Draft, Skaffold, Forge, Telepresence, Garden, and Tilt). Can you tell us about some of the new tooling - how do they map to developer needs? 

  • Debugging - Squash, KubeFwd, Stern
  • “Connect” - KubeFwd, Telepresence, Ksync
  • Development Orchestrators - Garden, Skaffold, Tilt

Topic 4 - In going through the different tools, what have you found are the ones that make the most immediate impact for developers? 

Topic 5  - As Kubernetes get more popular and widely used, do you think it’s important for developers to have to learn about Kubernetes? Or do you think that the external tooling will abstract it enough for them to be productive without that knowledge?


Oct 02, 2019
Dashboards, Metrics and Observability

SHOW: 416

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Björn Rabenstein (Engineer at @Grafana) about the intersection of Dashboards, Metrics, Monitoring and Observability.





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell about your background prior to joining Grafana Labs. (worked with Julius Volz at Soundcloud, guest on The Cloudcast on Eps.263 and Eps.319). 

Topic 2 - I saw a tweet the other day that said, “CIO directive to cut contracts because they have 37 monitoring tools and still the reliability is poor...". Your talk at VelocityConf is about the hype around observability and monitoring. What is the state of Ops visibility? 

Topic 3 - Let’s start by talking about good hygiene and good practices. What types of things should Ops teams, SREs and even Developers always been doing to have good visibility of their environments?

Topic 4 - What are the big mistakes that companies make, or what anti-patterns are becoming more pervasive? 

Topic 5 - As a builder of tools, and an operator of tools, what are some of the things you wish more Dev knew, but maybe don’t know what to ask?


Sep 25, 2019
Chaos Engineering and Team Health

SHOW: 415

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Paul Osman (@paulosman, SRE Engineering Manager @UnderArmour) about aligning business value to Chaos Engineering, measuring its impact, and changing team culture to embrace the chaos.





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we get into Chaos Engineering, let’s talk a little bit about your background and some of the things you did prior to joining Under Armour. 

Topic 2 - We’ve talked about Chaos Engineering a few times on the show before. At a company level, what are some of the things (Connected Health) where it makes sense for Under Armour to be investing in Chaos Engineering and developing expertise around this discipline?

Topic 3 - Walk us through how a team at Under Armour thinks about Chaos Engineering, from the business need to think about scheduling it (or not scheduling it), measuring it, and then communicating the results back within your team and to management.

Topic 4 - I think people think that Chaos is a periodic event, like a DR test, but in reality, it needs to be somewhat of an on-going activity. How do you connect the dots between this on-going Chaos and actual problems in your systems - and how/when to measure problems (or what to measure)?

Topic 5 - What is the most difficult part about getting the team culture to understand that Chaos is an important part of day-to-day activities and dealing with “failure” being part of the system?


Sep 18, 2019
Knative Serverless

SHOW: 414

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Sebastien Goasguen (@sebgoa, CTO/Co-Founder at @TriggerMesh) about the evolution of the Knative project.





Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Almost a year ago, you launched TriggerMesh with Mark Hinkle. How is the business doing? 

Topic 2 - A couple of years ago, you helped create a technology called Kubeless, to do Serverless/FaaS on Kubernetes. And then Knative came along. For people that aren’t familiar with Knative, can you give us a Tl;DR on what it is and how it has evolved as a standard for Kubernetes?

Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the different elements of Knative and how each one of them is evolving - Build, Serving and Eventing. 

Topic 4 - Can we talk about the differences between “Serverless” and “Functions-as-a-Service”, especially in the context of different frameworks, and event sources?

Topic 5 - Triggermesh has been very early in delivering Serverless or Functions-as-a-Service via Knative. What are some of the lessons you’ve learned (use-cases, customer preferences, area of education) over the last year?

Topic 6 - Do you have any insight into some of the things that might be coming next in Knative? 


Sep 11, 2019
Everything is a Little Bit Broken

SHOW: 413

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Heidi Waterhouse, (@wiredferret, Developer Advocate @LaunchDarkly) about the challenges of balancing stability and agility, from a technology perspective and a cultural perspective. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’re going to talk about broken systems today, but before we get into that, let’s talk about your background, and what types of things you work on at LaunchDarkly.

Topic 2 - As we start seeing companies adopt a lot of these new technologies and methods (Agile, DevOps, Microservices, Distributed Systems, Cloud-Native Apps, Continuous Integration, etc.) we’re seeing them go through this interesting transformation of having to think differently about how things should work and how they might break. This is an area that you talk about quite a bit. 

Topic 3 - There is a 5 9s mentality and there is a release daily intro production mentality that sort of seem at odds with each other. How do we start figuring out how to manage that big space in between those two world views? Or can they be the same? 

Topic 4 - By adding in error budgets, layered access, and other accommodations for failure and for designing our systems for function over form or purity - we learn how to add resiliency to their system by learning to trust but mitigate their reliance on the perfect performance of their underlying tools.

Topic 5 - You get to talk to a lot of developers and architects. What are some of the best ways that you’ve seen them not only grasp these concepts but communicate them up to their management chains so they educate them about the terminology and concepts?


Sep 04, 2019
2019 Mid-Year Industry Update

SHOW: 412

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Brandon Whichard (@bwhichard, Co-Host of Software Defined Talk podcast) about the tech/cloud trends that have shaped the first half of 2019.





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. I’ve been listening to your show, Software Defined Talk, for quite a while. Tell us about your show, your co-hosts and the types of things you discuss on the show?

Topic 2 - What are some of the biggest trends you’ve seen (or been discussing) so far in 2019? Anything really surprise you?

Topic 3 - AWS has continued to be the leading public cloud for a decade now. Do you see anything slowing AWS down?

Topic 4 - There were lots of articles earlier in the year about big public cloud contracts between web companies and the public cloud (hundreds of millions in cloud spending). Many of those companies are now struggling as they have gone IPO. If they struggle to make revenue (and subsequently their cloud payments), do you see this having any effect on sentiment about public cloud? 

Topic 5 - There is starting to be some noise in the news and the markets about a potential economic slowdown. How much do you think about what that might mean to the tech industry, and subsequently buyers and users of tech? Sometimes in slower times, we see the creativity of new tech emerge (2001 - mass websites; 2007/8 - AWS and iPhone, 2019/2020 - ??)


Aug 28, 2019
Blockchain beyond the Database

SHOW: 411

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Brian Platz (@bplatz, CEO/Co-Founder at @Flureee) about blockchain use-cases outside of cryptocurrencies, immutable data, graph databases, and building APIs on data. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we jump into Fluree and the breadth of technologies that power the stack, let’s talk about your background and what drove you to create Fluree. 

Topic 2 - Let’s start with the problems - why does the industry need a new data management stack? What types of use-cases or data-management problems does the Fluree stack address?

Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the Fluree stack, because it brings together several technologies (e.g. Blockchain, GraphQL, etc.) that have gotten a lot of hype, but people aren’t always sure how they should be used.  

Topic 4 - When we step back and look at the Fluree stack, we see a focus around distributed architectures, immutability, graph data richness. Much of this sounds like it aligns to aspects of what is known as the Semantic Web. Are there connections there?

Topic 5 - Let’s talk about your philosophy about API management and exposing data at the data-layer instead of the app-layer. What are the pros and cons of this sort of trade-off, and what are some of the things either data or app teams need to consider with this approach?


Aug 21, 2019
Etsy's Big Data Cloud Migration

SHOW: 410

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian talk with Kevin McHale (Senior Staff Engineer at Etsy) about the migration of their Big Data / Data Science platform from on-premises to Google Cloud, the business drivers for the migration, and the lessons the team has learned throughout the multi-year process.





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we dive into your work at Etsy, tell us a little bit about your background prior to Etsy - you’re pretty good at math. 

Topic 2 -  You’ve been working on two very interesting projects at Etsy - both building/evolving the data platform, and helping to manage the migration to Google Cloud Platform (GCP). Let’s start by talking about the Etsy data platform.

Topic 3 - What have been some of the business drivers that are pushing the data platform to collect more information, to become more cloud-native, and to better enable data pipelines? 

Topic 4 - At some point in 2017-18, Etsy decided to migrate some of the platforms to Google Cloud. Tell us about that decision-process, and how the migration has been going. What have been some of the lessons learned? 

Topic 5 -  How does working with Google Cloud (or just being in the public cloud) help accelerate the work that you’re doing on evolving the Etsy data platform? 


Aug 14, 2019
New Challenges for IT Professionals

SHOW: 409

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Corey Hynes, (@CoreyJHynes, CEO Learn on Demand Systems, @LoDSystems) about the need for hands-on ways to learn new skills, train IT professionals, and how innovative companies and individuals are adapting to the new culture of tech learning challenges. 





Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. We’re obviously passionate about helping people learn with this podcast, but why don’t you tell us about your background and what makes you passionate about helping people learn at Learn on Demand Systems. 

Topic 2 - While we spent a lot of time covering the evolution of cloud technologies, the way that people learn today has evolved enormously as well. Help us understand the breadth of ways that Learn on Demand helps people learn - from Labs to Challenges to other forms? 

Topic 3 - One product that you recently started offering is called “IT Pro Challenges”. We’ve heard you say in other forums that you’re a big believer in hands-on learning. How does IT Pro Challenges help make sure that people get the actual skills they are learning?

Topic 4 - A big part of learning is motivation - finding the time to learn, finding the motivation to try something new. What are some of the things that Learn on Demand Systems does to help motivate people to engage in the various types of learning systems you offer?

Topic 5 - What is your message to people (individuals, managers, etc.) watching all these new technologies emerging and trying to figure out how to either pick the right learning/technology path for themselves, or generally putting a plan in place to improve themselves? 


Aug 07, 2019
The Rapidly Evolving Network

SHOW: 408

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Devesh Garg (Co-Founder/CEO of @arrcusinc) about the growth of Arrcus, the evolution of the network (5G, IoT Edge, DC to Cloud, SDN), and the new economics of networking. 





Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. It’s been just about a year since we last spoke, you were just launching the company (amazing engineering experience and advisors). What has the last year of disrupting the networking industry been like? Tell us how the latest round of funding will help Arrcus grow. 

Topic 2 - Everything is connected now (way behind user-devices), everything is collecting and transmitting data, and we have no patience for the delay. Paint us a picture of how the network is evolving to deal with 5G, AI/ML at the edge, DC to Cloud interconnects, etc. 

Topic 3 - Arrcus has been focused on bringing better speeds and agility to networking. As more networking moves to SDN and SoC, how have companies been able to measure the gains that come from these new approaches to networking?  

Topic 4 - Arrcus recently announced multiple high-density 100GbE and 400GbE routing solutions for Hyper-scale Cloud, Edge, and 5G networks and ArcIQ, “AI-driven analytics platform that provides enhanced real-time visibility, control, and security”. Tell us about the new solutions and how this changes the model for network and cloud operations teams

Topic 5 - What have you found to be the most critical areas of focus for the modern network operator, especially given the pace of innovation that offers them not only opportunity but also the challenges of keeping up with change? 


Jul 31, 2019
Amazon's journey to MARS

SHOW: 407

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian talk with Stu Miniman, (@stu, Sr Analyst, Host of @theCUBE, and GM of Content at SiliconANGLE Media) about the Amazon re:MARS event, and how it addressed technology trends in Smart Cities, Drones, Voice-Controlled Apps, IoT, Alexa, AR/VR, and AI/ML.





Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. You get to talk to more communities that we do. What are some of the interesting topics, trends or people you’ve seen over the last few months of traveling and events? 

Topic 2 - Jeff Bezos has apparently been hosting his own MARS event for a while now. Why did it become an Amazon event now? 

Topic 3 - MARS is Machine Learning, Automation, Robotics and Space. Some of that overlaps with AWS (Machine Learning, Automation), and some is on the fringe of AWS (Space). Who was attending this event and what were the overall themes?

  • Sessions include Smart Cities, Drones, Voice-Controlled Apps, IoT, Alexa, AR/VR, AI/ML

Topic 4 - There seem to be a number of sessions that included venture capital. Do you see this event as being less like a normal tech event, and more like a blurring of tech and VC, because some of these topics could involve significant levels of funding (smart cities, manned space travel, etc.)? 

Topic 5 -  AWS recently had an event called re:Inforce, which was targeted at Security. Do you think we’re beginning to see the disaggregation of re:Invent into specialty events and sub-categories of technology interests? 


Jul 24, 2019
Elastic for Search & Analytics

SHOW: 406

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Steve Kearns (@skearns64, VP Product Mgmt @Elastic) about how search is being used in many ways of our day-to-day life, how search has evolved to be a core element of Analytics platforms, and how Elastic search is evolving to help the next generation of developers in area like APM, Security, Metrics, etc. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we get into your work at Elastic, can you tell us a little bit about your background? 

Topic 2 - Let’s start with the basics of search. Everyone knows about how they use Google for their day-to-day activities, but what are some of the common uses of search in a business or IT context that people might not think about or know about?  

Topic 3 - Elastic is mentioned very frequently in the “search” discussion, but then it’s also included in a number of popular “stacks” (ELK stack, EFK stack, etc.). How does Elastic think about search being a core component of many other stacks (Metrics, APM, Security, etc.), some of which you may not have any immediate visibility to?

Topic 4 - What are some of the evolutions that are happening around search (or broader stacks) that are interesting to developers? 

Topic 5 - How does Elastic think about how or when customers (or developers) are consuming Elastic technologies, across OSS, commercial software and SaaS offerings? 


Jul 17, 2019
Understanding Graph Database Patterns

SHOW: 405

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian talk with Emil Eifrem, (@emileifrem, Founder/CTO @Neo4j) about the emergence of graph databases, common use-cases, and how developers are thinking about new ways to leverage graph databases.  





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’ve been the CEO of Neo4j for over a decade now. How has the landscape around application-usage of data changed in the most significant ways? 

Topic 2 - For many decades, most data-centric applications were built around Relational Databases (SQL Databases). These days, application patterns and use-cases have expanded significantly. How do graph databases fit into these new trends? 

Topic 3 - With all the new patterns emerging, there are both business reasons and technical reasons for choosing the right database platform. How do you find the business-level thought process happening (contributing, influencing) around platform choice? How do you find the technical-level thought process happening (contributing, influencing) around platform choice?

Topic 4 - Every company that’s involved with the commercialization of open source projects is trying to figure out the best way to manage a portfolio between OSS, software offerings and cloud offerings. How does Neo4j think about that balance? 

Topic 5 - Getting developer momentum and mass around a set of patterns is critical. How does Neo4j think about enabling developers, and what are some of the things you’ve done to accelerate their success and consistent learning? 


Jul 10, 2019
A Climate Code of Conduct for Events

SHOW: 404

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Alexis Richardson (@monadic, CEO @weaveworks, Chair of TOC @CNCF) about the carbon footprint of technology conferences and a growing interest in making them more environmentally friendly.  





Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. We’ve just now wrapped up the spring conference season and you’re helping to kick off a new focus on an interesting aspect of conferences. 

Topic 2 - Obviously climate change is a big talking point in political campaigns right now. Do you think that’s what is driving this discussion around conference now (vs. another moment in time)? 

Topic 3 - You’re helping to create a “Climate Code of Conduct”. It’s still early, but what are some of the guiding principles that are being explored? 

Topic 4 - Given the complexity of all that could be involved in improving the climate impact of conferences, do you think it’s more important to start making smaller changes (low-hanging fruit) or establishing really bold guidance? 

Topic 5 - Have any discussions about this started with any conferences yet? If conference organizers are listening, how would you suggest they potentially engage with the group that is discussing this? 


Jun 26, 2019
How Lyft Built a Service Mesh with Envoy

SHOW: 403

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Jose Nino (@junr03, Software Engineer @Lyft) about how they evolved from a monolithic application to 300+ microservices, including a service mesh using the Envoy proxy.




Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background and some of the things you work on at Lyft. 

Topic 2 - Lyft was the original creator of the Envoy proxy project. As Lyft was going through their migration from a monolith to microservices, when did they realize that they needed to start creating a service mesh. 

Topic 3 - What functions of Envoy does Lyft use for both networking and security?

Topic 4 - How does Lyft manage who interacts with the Service Mesh, since it has impacts on the applications (microservices) and the infrastructure teams (networking, security)? 

Topic 5 - What recommendations would you make to any other teams that are evaluating Envoy or Service Mesh technologies? 


Jun 19, 2019
Machine Learning with Kubeflow

SHOW: 402

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with David Aronchick (@aronchick, Head of Open Source Machine Learning @Azure) about the history of the KubeFlow project, how it has evolved as a community, and how KubeFlow is making it easier to get started with Machine Learning on Kubernetes. 




Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background, especially as you’ve come to be involved in both open source and machine learning or AI.

Topic 2 - You’ve been involved in the KubeFlow project since its creation a couple of years ago. Can you introduce us to the project and how it’s evolved over the last couple of years? 

Topic 3 - The stated goal of KubeFlow is to make machine learning workflows simple, repeatable and scalable. Can you walk us through some of the ways that KubeFlow is beginning to achieve these goals?

Topic 4 - For those people that understand Kubernetes, can you explain how KubeFlow interacts with Kubernetes, and maybe a little bit about how KubeFlow gets value from Kubernetes for these ML workloads? 

Topic 5 - What are some of the new areas in this space that you’re excited about?

Topic 6 - For people new to this area, what are some of the easier ways for them to get started?


Jun 11, 2019
The Power of Community Engagement

SHOW: 401

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian continue the "Four for Four Hundred" shows, with a focus on community engagement. Then Brian talks with Amy Lewis (@commsninja, Director Influence Marketing @VMware) about the importance of finding a community for technical learning, career advice, mentorship, and helping you find the joy in your current or future jobs. 




Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. What types of things are you working on these days, especially in the context of people getting support from communities? 

Topic 2 - Tell us about the feedback you’re getting from community members about the importance of technical skills vs. industry-specific knowledge or skills. 

Topic 3 - You often recommend “doing an interview” to gauge how well prepared someone is to find a new job, or understand new jobs. Can you elaborate on some examples of how to do this - the “frienderview”. 

Topic 4 - Is it ever a good time to align your resume to the current buzzwords of the industry? How far away are your current skills from where you want to be?

Topic 5 - What are some tips for learning the domain-specific terminology as people move into new industries?

Topic 6 - How are you finding ways to Spark Joy in your communities? 


Jun 05, 2019
Many Paths of an Engineering Journey

SHOW: 400

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian continue the "Four for Four Hundred" shows, with a focus on engineering career opportunities. Then Brian talks with Nick Weaver (@lynxbat, Engineering Leader) about transitioning from customer to vendor, from junior to senior engineers, and the realities of Digital Transformation. 




Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show, it’s been way too long. What are you up to these days?

Topic 2 - We wanted to bring you back on because you’ve gone through quite a few transitions as an engineer, from infrastructure to cloud to vendor-side to customer-side. Can you share some of the ways that you were able to make transitions, and how you overcame concerns about some of the big leaps?

Topic 3 - Some projects are a success (EMCworld Labs), often wildly successful. How did you deal with success, and then how did you deal with the ongoing maintenance once the shininess wore off? 

Topic 4 - Some projects are less successful (vCloudAir). How did you personally handle some of the problems, and how did you grow from it?

Topic 5 - You’re in an engineering leadership role now (and have been for the last few years). How has that changed your perspective, and what are some of the lessons you’ve learned?

Topic 6 - Can you quickly tell the stories of all the Nick Weavers? 


May 29, 2019
How Big is your Public Cloud bill?

SHOW: 399

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian continue the "Four for Four Hundred" shows, with a focus on following the money in cloud computing. Then Brian talks with Corey Quinn (@QuinnyPig, Cloud Economist @ Duckbill Group) about the economic realities of being all-in on the public cloud.




Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. You’ve become a multi-media star since your last appeared (newsletter, podcasting, stand-up comedy, co-hosting theCUBE, live blogger, etc.). 

Topic 2 - In case you haven’t noticed, revenues in the public cloud have grown quite a bit in the last few years. And not a day goes by without some web company announcing their monthly AWS spend. Walk us through the world of an organization that is a reasonably heavy spender in the public cloud. Are there steak dinners and rounds of golf still involved? 

Topic 3 - We hear about long-term contracts being negotiated with public cloud providers. How do these negotiations go, and where are customer’s leverage points?

Topic 4 - What are the typical stages of Cloud Adoption and Cloud Grief? 

  • Excitement - bypass IT, everything seems cheap
  • Curiosity - so many new services to explore and use
  • Confusion - so many services, they don’t all fit on the dashboard, where are the neglected services running?
  • Fear - the bills come in and they are more than we expected

Topic 5 - Do you find that legacy IT is actually brought along on the journey to large-scale public cloud usage? If so, what is the transition process for people/groups used to CAPEX and Hardware and ELAs and Data Centers? 


May 22, 2019
Focusing Apps only on Business Value

SHOW: 398

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian kick off "Four for Four Hundred" by discussing the massive evolutions of the industry over the last 8 years. Then Brian talks with Joe Emison (@JoeEmison, Co-Founder/CTO at Branch Insurance) about the next generation of serverless technologies to help develop applications, focusing only on creating business value, communicating this new approach to engineers, and leveraging technology to take on big markets. 




Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. It’s been way too long. Tell us about your new company and some of the things you’ve been working on.

Topic 2 - The last time you were on it was the earlier days of serverless. Since then, you’d stayed active around serverless, but have been vocal about how the space has evolved. Where has your experience taken you over the past couple of years? 

Topic 3 - You talk (and write) a lot about only focusing on building business value. That’s a hard concept for some technologists to grasp, as they always believe there is some amount of technical debt to own. How do you communicate your perspective on this to people? 

Topic 4 - The last time you were on, we talked about thick clients and Netlify and some things that were new to us. What are some of the tools/services you really like these days? 

Topic 5 - You’re trying to re-establish the home and auto insurance bundling business. There are big names in this space. How does your technology philosophy allow a small startup to compete against very well established (and funded companies)?


May 15, 2019
Simplifying Application Development and Integration

SHOW: 397

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Matthew Creager (@matt_creager, Co-Founder & VP Developer Relations @manifoldco) about the challenges of cloud silos, connecting apps to multiple cloud services, the importance of collaboration beyond just coding, and how Manifold makes it simpler to integrate apps to align to business needs. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background prior to Manifold, and what motivated you to focus on this new model of application development and integration.  

Topic 2 - I know one truth about developers, that they prefer things to be simple or taken care of for them. Beyond that, I’m not sure of any absolute truths. It seems like Manifold is somewhere near the intersection of Low-Code and PaaS and Integration Services (API Gateways or Middleware) and CI/CD. Beyond simplicity, how do you describe what Manifold does? 

Topic 2a - What is the interaction between the Manifold services and services? 

Topic 3 - I really like the idea of shared projects and shared billing. How much do you find that overlapping or re-inventing slows down developers? 

Topic 4 - Can you help us understand the business model or community model? 

Topic 5 - Can you share any examples of how Manifold has helped companies and teams accelerate their application development models?


May 08, 2019
Advancements in Webscale Logging

SHOW: 396

DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian talk with Renaud Boutet (@boutetren, VP Product Management @datadoghq) about logging, monitoring, observability, and the challenges of balancing the collection of the right data with the costs of all the data.





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about some of your background prior to joining Datadog, and about your focus areas today. 

Topic 2 - Let’s start with some conceptual buckets - how do you sort out the differences when people say “monitoring” vs. “logging” vs. “observability”? 

Topic 3 - Logging has the inherent tradeoff between the desire to “log everything” and the limitation of costs to log (and retain everything). What are some of the trends to potentially make this tradeoff more manageable?

Topic 4 - At some point, the tradeoff between sending logs, filtering logs, storing logs all boils down to a financial trade-off of immediate costs vs potential costs associated with failure. How do you see those conversations playing out in real life? Any suggestions on a framework for doing those types of analysis? 

Topic 5 - What role do you see AI playing in the future of Logging/Observability? It seems like that needs to become the next big step if the industry solves the challenges of logging/storage more and more. 


May 01, 2019
A VC's Perspective on AI and Security

SHOW: 395

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Dr. Steve Herrod (@herrod, Managing Director at General Catalyst @gcvp) about the transition from CTO to VC, the role of AI and Security in today’s startups, the impact the public cloud has on his evaluations, and tips for selecting the right companies and leaders.





Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. It’s now been 6 years since your transition from VMware to the VC world. What are some of the lessons you’ve learned?

Topic 2 - When you were a CTO, you were building a comprehensive portfolio. How does that perspective change when you’re looking at a broad range of portfolio companies? 

Topic 3 - Your companies tend to skew towards cybersecurity, where AI is going to play a significant role. How do you think about them from a technology perspective, and how much does the cloud’s resources for data modeling help or challenge them?

Topic 4 - What’s your perspective on the role of open source software for enabling your companies?

Topic 5 - Given your background, how much do you get involved in growing the engineering talent at your portfolio companies?

Topic 6 - Any tips for potential startups wanting to pitch high-level VCs?


Apr 25, 2019
Understanding Time-Series Database Patterns

SHOW: 394

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Evan Kaplan (@evankaplan, CEO of InfluxData) about why companies choose time-series databases, commons use-cases, how time-series patterns align to changing business goals, and how to translate business demands to developer capabilities. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’ve been the CEO of InfluxData for a few years, but please share with the audience your background and how you came to lead InfluxData.

Topic 2 - For many decades, most data-centric applications were built around Relational Databases (SQL Databases). These days, application patterns and use-cases have expanded significantly. How do time-series databases fit into these new trends?

Topic 3 - With all the new patterns emerging, there are both business reasons and technical reasons for choosing the right platform. How do you find the business-level thought process happening (contributing, influencing) around platform choice? How do you find the technical-level thought process happening (contributing, influencing) around platform choice?

Topic 4 - Every company that’s involved with the commercialization of open source projects is trying to figure out the best way to manage a portfolio between OSS, software offerings and cloud offerings. How does InfluxData think about that mix, and what are you seeing in terms of customer-demand trends? 

Topic 5 - Getting developer momentum and mass around a set of patterns is critical. How does InfluxData think about enabling developers, and what are some of things you’ve done to accelerate their success and consistent learning? 


Apr 17, 2019
Network Reliability Engineering

SHOW: 393

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Matt Oswalt (@mierdin, NRE @JuniperNetworks) and Derick Winkworth (@cloudtoad, Product Marketing Manager @JuniperNetworks) about how networking has adapted to DevOps and SRE, internally marketing the evolution to teams, and how NRE Labs are helping network engineers get up to speed. 





Topic 1 - Welcome to the show Derick and welcome back Matt. Tell us about your background and some of the things you’re working on now at Juniper.

Topic 2 -  We talked a couple weeks ago with Gustavo Franco from Google about SRE, you guys have been working on something you’re calling “NRE”. Tell us about the NRE concept and how this fits into the world of Networking and DevOps.

Topic 3 - Networking hasn’t been a very static thing in a long time (DHCP, WiFi access, VPNs), but now we also have applications joining and changing on a regular basis (CI/CD pipelines, containers, etc.). So how is that world changing the demands on “DevNetOps”? 

Topic 4 - What are you guys working on to tangibly move people forward in this space? Are there any resources or projects they should be aware of?

Topic 5 - When you’re a foundational technology, such as networking or storage, it can be tough to adapt rapid DevOps type activities or culture. How much of NRE or DevNetOps is tooling (automation, controllers) and how much is culture changes? 

Topic 6 - Change is always a journey. What are some of the steps that you’re seeing people take towards NRE or DevNetOps, and maybe what are some of the common early mistakes they make?


Apr 10, 2019
Navigating the Engineering Career Paths

SHOW: 392

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Uma Chingunde (@the_umac, Engineering Manager at @Stripe) about engineering career paths as an IC or Manager, how managers can be effective mentors, job rotations, and how diversity is an opportunity for every team. 




Uma Chingunde’s Background:


Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background, as well as some of the things you’re working on these days at Stripe. 

Topic 2 -  We’ve discussed the career mindset of people more on the sales/marketing side of companies, but you’re beginning to look at this within engineering teams. Let’s start with the framework of how you think about that for yourself and then for people within your team. 

Topic 3 - What are traditional vs non traditional IC and manager paths you can explore?

Topic 4 - How do you think about the engineer vs manager track? Does it always have to be these two options, or are you seeing other paths, maybe more senior options as an IC?

Topic 5 - What are some variations on the above for underrepresented groups?


Apr 03, 2019
Real-World SRE Perspectives

SHOW: 391

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Gustavo Franco (@stratus, Customer Reliability Engineer at Google) about real-world experience as SRE/SRE Manager and CRE Manager, a discussion about how to measure SRE success, as well as how to onboard the SRE/CRE concepts and processes to new teams. 




Gustavo's Background:


Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background, and some of the things you work on today as it relates to SRE and CRE teams. 

Topic 2 - Let's talk about what SRE is intended to do, and maybe how it differs (or is the same) from existing teams that might be labeled "Ops" or "DevOps". Maybe we can also talk about some of the types of skills that highlight what SRE does.

Topic 3 - What are some of the ways to avoid an SRE (or CRE) team just becoming the band-aid team to fix all the things that developers don't want to put into code because they are under deadlines (security, bug fixed, scalability, etc.)?

Topic 4 - We're hearing more about these terms "AIOps" and "ChaosEngineering". How much can SRE/CRE teams augment applications through tools that either bring deeper insight (e.g. AIOps) or create scenarios that developers can't emulate (e.g. Chaos)?

Topic 5 - You've been around SRE/CRE for a while now. What are some of the positive and negative lessons you've learned and could share with the audience?


Mar 28, 2019
Exploring the SaaS Business Model

SHOW: 390

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Aneel Lakhani (@aneel, Go To Market Consultant and Advisor) about the difference between traditional Enterprise software and B2B SaaS offerings, how the sales and marketing models work, and how development and operations is significantly changed with SaaS.




Aneel’s Background: From engineering and product roles at IBM to marketing and go to market roles at Cisco and a number of SaaS startups, with a brief stint as a Research Director at Gartner. Has been a frequent speaker at events like Velocity and been on many podcasts, including this one, Andreessen Horowitz’s, and Microsoft’s Open Source Show.


Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’ve known each other for quite a while, but tell our audience about your last 10 years in gaining a ton of experience around startups and SaaS-based businesses.  

Topic 2 - A few weeks ago, in the middle of a Twitter conversation, you said “SaaS changes everything”. Let’s start with the most basic things. How is a SaaS-delivered business different than a traditional software business? (development, go-to-market, marketing, profitability (or loss) models)

Topic 3 - Digging into the sales and marketing funnel, walk us through what typically happens from awareness to sign-up to early/free trial to actual customer engagement, and how a SaaS company is measuring along the way.

Topic 4 - Help us understand the economics of product development in a SaaS business. Not only do you have the normal costs/challenges of building the software, but you have the ongoing costs of running the SaaS operations. 

Topic 5 - What are some of the critical metrics and measurements that the SaaS company and their VCs are typically looking at? 

Topic 6 - What is the thought process of SaaS companies about their service eventually becoming an AWS service at the next re:Invent?  


Mar 20, 2019
AIOps for Security and Breach Protection

SHOW: 389

DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Adam Hunt (CTO and Chief Data Scientist at @RiskIQ) about the breadth of security breaches, how AI/ML can play a role if used properly, and immediate steps to improve protection for breaches.



AWS Announced Open Distro for ElasticSearch

Rebuttals or Commentary on Open Distro for ElasticSearch  

Continuous Delivery Foundation launched by Linux Foundation

VC Investment in the Service Mesh space
Bouyant ($10M)
Tetrate ($12.5M



Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You have quite an interesting and impressive background. Can you talk a little bit about your work in academia prior to RiskIQ, and then what drew you to this space?

Topic 2 - RiskIQ focuses on helping companies mitigate massive security attacks. For people that don’t live in the security domain, can you give us a sense of what one of these attacks and breaches look like? 

Topic 3 - Can you give us a sense of how many of these massive attacks are utilizing new techniques, or is it variants of existing techniques, or just old techniques looking for new (vulnerable) targets? And are there tools to help companies understand how to prioritize against these?  

Topic 4 - Where are we in the industry in terms of the intersection of security best practices that IT teams can control, and when ML-driven capabilities can augment for more proactive security? 

Topic 5 - What are some of the things that you’re recommending to companies that are helping to make immediate impacts to them preventing or reducing massive breaches?


Mar 15, 2019
New Tools for Cloud Native Developers

Show: 388

Description: Brian talks with Eric Rudder (@ericrudder; Co-Founder and Executive Chairman @PulumiCorp) about the evolving tools and supply-chain for both developers and operations in a cloud-native world. 

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background prior to Pulumi, and your motivation for creating Pulumi. 

Topic 2 - Pulumi’s stated goal is “Create, deploy, and manage modern cloud apps and infrastructure”. Break that down for us, as it cuts across a lot of different job functions and (currently) different tooling being used today. 

Topic 3 -  Between serverless and containers, it’s been pretty well acknowledged that the developer experience has a long way to go. Lots of burden put on the developer to understand the underlying systems. How does Pulumi attempt to simply or standardize around this challenge? 

Topic 4 - You obviously have a bunch of experience with developer communities from your days at Microsoft. Getting developers to standardize on things in mass is not a simple task. What are some of the ways to create movement to newer tools or technologies? 

Topic 5 - What are some of your expectations about how much of the software supply-chain, from writing code to testing/securing code to deploying will have to get disrupted with new cloud-native applications (containers, serverless, etc.) and how much do you feel like is solved enough to leave in place? 


Mar 06, 2019
Discussing Service Mesh Architectures

Show: 387

Description: Aaron and Brian talk with Armon Dadgar (@armon, Founder/CTO @HashiCorp) about the problems service mesh can solve, the underlying technologies, control plane vs. data plane considerations, and who is making decisions about service meshes within an IT organization.

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. It’s been a couple years since HashiCorp has been on the show, so give us an update on the company - big round of funding ($100M) in November.

Topic 2 - A couple months ago we saw you in a video called “What is a Service Mesh?”. It was intended to be a “let’s make this simple” and you realize that a Service Mesh could be a lot of things - L4-L7 routing, Proxy, Encryption, Authentication, Application patterns. Is a Service Mesh solving a new problem, or is it pulling together lots of things that have existed at L4-L7 and application stacks in the past? 

Topic 3 - “Service Mesh” has become a pretty crowded and fragmented market over the last couple years. HashiCorp Consul has been around since 2014 (was originally “Service Discovery”) and now there’s Linkerd, Istio, Envoy and a bunch of variations. As you talk to people in the market, how are they evaluating the options out there?  

Topic 4 - Consul has evolved from Service Discovery to Service Mesh, and seems to have come from more of an authentication and security perspective (some others tends to be more routing-centric). Are there use-cases when one Service Mesh is a better fit than others, or should we expect that all/most of them will more or less converged on features over the next 12-24 months? 

Topic 5 - Can you give us some examples of how companies are using Service Meshes today (parts or all of the capabilities) and what teams are usually driving the adoption (infra/ops, security, app-dev, etc.)?


Feb 27, 2019
Evolution of Public Cloud Integrators

Show: 386

Description: Aaron and Brian talk with Jeff Aden (@aden_jeff, Founder/EVP at @2ndWatch) about the evolution of 2ndWatch as a Cloud Integrator as AWS has grown and shifted their focus from startups to Enterprise customers. 

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show Jeff. Tell us about your background, the founding of 2nd Watch, and how the company has evolved over the last few years. 

Topic 2 - We got to know 2nd Watch at one of the first re:Invent shows, as they had one of the largest booths on the floor. At the time, they were listed as one of AWS’s best partners. Today, 2ndWatch provides management tools, migration tools, systems-integration capabilities. How does 2ndWatch think of themselves? 

Topic 3 -  What are the concerns of your customers today, and how does 2ndWatch think about matching customer demands and the types of tools/services/capabilities that you provide today?

Topic 4 - We’d like to pick your brain about the usage and insights you’re seeing from your customers usage of AWS. It’s mentioned that 100% are using DynamoDB, 53% are using Elastic Kubernetes, and are fast growing section are using things likes Athena, Glue and Sagemaker. What are some of the types of applications that you’re seeing customer build that leverage these new models? 

Topic 5 - With technologies like Outpost being announced, after so many years of AWS saying “Cloud or legacy Data Center”, how do you see this impacting the thought process of customers or potential customers? 


Feb 20, 2019
Mid Career Job Changes

Show: 385

Description: Aaron and Brian talk with Keith Townsend (@CTOAdvisor) about jobs around the IT industry, and the opportunities, challenges and trade-offs in making various types of mid-career job changes. 

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Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Want to talk about the pros and cons of various types of jobs in and around the IT industry - Vendors, Integrators, Contractors, Consultants, IT within a Company (Customer)

Topic 2 - Most of the 2000s and about half of the 2010s were a huge boom for remote workers. It feels like that trend is reversing. Lots of Silicon Valley companies are reversing it, the major Public Cloud providers are specific about location, IBM had a push back towards offices. Walking the fine line between a remote team or an in office team. Also, challenges to stepping into leadership. Some leadership is not remote friendly historically

Topic 3 - If you decide that you want to work around “emerging” technologies, you’re usually having to decide between a few critical factors - travel, visibility/marketing/advocating, salary certainty, and career path.  

Topic 4 - “Move up the stack” or “Move towards value” - Is this something that is realistic for people that have 5+ years in a skill set? What are some realistic things people could do in this domain?

Topic 5 - What are some examples you’ve seen or recommends you’ve been given about how to make these transitions?


Feb 15, 2019
Multi-Cloud Security

Show: 384

Description: Aaron talks with Harry Sverdlove (@TheSecureWord, Founder & CTO Edgewise Networks) about the evolution of security to embrace both a micro-services and multi-cloud world.

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Topic 1 - Briefly Introduce yourself and tell everyone a little bit about your background.

Topic 2 - The topic of security historically has been a weakness for Brian and I, let’s start at the start and cover a few base topics first. What are some of the big challenges customers are facing today in hybrid and public cloud?

Topic 3 - I came from the “secure the perimeter” world back in the day. How has this concept evolved and does it still apply to operations today?

Topic 4 - Are we evolving into an anomaly detection mindset going forward? How does AI/ML assist (if at all) in this area vs. historical trends and pattern matching?

Topic 5 - As applications move to more cloud native architectures joined with a loose coupling of microservice, how does this change play into approaching the problem?

Topic 6 -  Last question, what implications does multi-cloud present?


Feb 06, 2019
A Serverless Look Ahead for 2019

Show: 383

Description: Aaron and Brian talk with  Paul D. Johnston (@PaulDJohnston, Co-Founder ServerlessDays (creator of “Jeff”), CXO Serverless Consultant) about the current state of Serverless, Serverless vs. FaaS, how to economically think about functions of code, and areas where Serverless needs to improve. 

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Topic 1 - Happy New Year, hope you’re having a good 2019. It’s been a while since you were last on the show. As the creator of Jeff, what have you been up to lately?

Topic 2 - Let’s talk about a basic thing that seems to confuse people. What’s the new definition, or the actual difference (if there is any), between “Serverless” and “Functions as a Service”. 

Topic 3 - I’ve seen you mention several times on Twitter that, “Few people really understand how powerful serverless can be. They focus on the wrong things.” Help us get focused on the important parts. 

Topic 4 - I’ve also seen you say that “with serverless, infrastructure is a rounding error.” Walk us through the economics of your experiences with serverless, and how you think about “profitable software”.

Topic 5 - Why do you think it seems like so many of the other cloud offerings are so far behind AWS Lambda? 

Topic 6 - At a high level, what is working well in serverless, and what is still complicated or missing? What’s your wishlist for 2019?


Jan 30, 2019
An AI and ML Look Ahead for 2019

Show: 382

Description: Brian talks with Sam Charrington (@samcharrington, Machine Learning & AI analyst, advisor & host of “This Week in Machine Learning & AI” podcast) about trends in the industry, the evolution of AI at the edge, new research areas in 2019, and a discussion about adding AI and ML to business applications. 

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Topic 1 - Happy New Year and welcome back to the show, it’s been just over a year. For those that didn’t hear that show or might be new to TWIML & AI, tell us about your background and some of your AI/ML focus now.

Topic 2 - Let’s start with the things that are considered “mainstream” with AI & ML today. Fraud detection, recommendation engines, facial recognition, speech recognition, auto-completions. What’s missing from that list, and how “commodity” have those technologies, tools, datasets, cloud services become?

Topic 3 -On the flipside, what are some of the areas where research or just the massive cloud providers are focused today?

Topic 4 - A couple years ago it seemed like TWIML & AI was a mix of technology discussions and business/social impacts. This past year seemed to be a deeper focus on the underlying technologies. What’s the current state of the balance between AI & ML for computing improvement vs. concerns about personal privacy, etc.?

Topic 5 - What’s the “getting started” curve look like for companies that want/need to add or integrate AI & ML into their applications? What are some numbers you hear about cost of engineers, sizes of datasets, number of experiments and models needed to run, etc.?

Topic 6 - What are some of the things you’re really looking forward to in 2019, whether it’s technology or trends or something else?


Jan 23, 2019
An ITOps & Infrastructure Look Ahead for 2019

Show: 381

Description: Brian talks with Ethan Banks (@ecbanks, co-founder of @PacketPushers) about the state of ITOps and Infrastructure heading into 2019.

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Topic 1 - Happy New Year. Welcome to the show. For anyone that isn’t already a listener to one of the many Packet Pushers podcasts, give us a little bit on your background.

Topic 2 - From an ITOps perspective, it seems like the last few years have been focused on “Software-defined” or “Hyper-Converged”, “Hybrid Cloud” and various forms of Automation. How much of those are real concerns of ITOps, and how much of that is vendor hype?

Topic 3 - As the usage of the public cloud grows, how much do you see ITOps professionals feeling like they can influence architecture and design, or feel like they are having to shift their focus to other tasks?

Topic 4 - You’ve been around the industry for a while, both as a practitioner (hands-on engineer) and now with a broader industry perspective. What are the biggest changes you’ve seen over the last couple years, and what are the areas that just never seem to change/evolve?

Topic 5 - We know that application teams are becoming more ingrained in business decisions (lines-of-business, etc.), but is that same thing happening with the ITOps teams as well?

Topic 6 - What are some of the ITOps and Infrastructure trends that you expect to be following/exploring more in 2019?


Jan 16, 2019
A Cloud-Native Apps Look Ahead for 2019

Show: 380

Description: Brian talks with Jeff Meyerson (@the_prion, Host of @software_daily) about the state of Cloud-native application development heading into 2019.

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Topic 1 - Happy New Year. Tell us a little bit about your background, and what motivates you to continue to dig into every aspect of Cloud-native application development?

Topic 2 - Developers have lots of opinions and approaches to building software. Have you seen much in terms of commonality or consistency about how developers are building cloud-native applications?

Topic 3 - What are some of the areas that developers really love today, and some areas where developers are really frustrated?

Topic 4 - A decade ago, it was all about the LAMP stack. We hear about the MEAN (Mongo, Express, Angular, Node) stack, but also lots of discussions about things like Kafka and more real-time applications. Are you seeing trends around application stacks, or is it really about lots of options now as applications move to microservices (and serverless)?

Topic 5 - SED covered quite a few aspects of Machine Learning in 2018. What are some of the things you’ve learned about ML usage and how it’s impacting application developers?

Topic 6 - What are some of the topics that you’re really interested to explore in 2019?


Jan 09, 2019
A DevOps Look Ahead for 2019

Show: 379

Description: Brian talks with Josh Atwell (@Josh_Atwell, Sr. Technology Advocate @Splunk and co-host of @SpeakingInTech) about the state of DevOps and NewOps heading into 2019.

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Topic 1 - Happy New Year. Tell us a little bit about your background, why you’re drawn to the DevOps space, and maybe some of your goals for 2019.

Topic 2 - What is the state of DevOps heading into 2019? We’ve seen it evolve from The Phoenix Project and “10 Deploys a Day” CI/CD to Infrastructure as a Code and HugOps. 

Topic 3 - It feels like DevOps is sort of at a crossroads, with a bunch of newer things emerging, from SRE to DevSecOps to NewOps. It that the market being uncomfortable with DevOps, or sort of a 2nd-generation set of knowledge emerging?

Topic 4 - From a technology perspective, DevOps always seems to attract the CI/CD tools and then the Chef/Puppet/Ansible/Salt tools, and now there is somewhat of a shift to immutability with things like Containers/Kubernetes or even serverless. Is there a technology focus for DevOps in 2019? How does NewOps fit into this space?

Topic 5 - From a culture perspective, there’s been HugOps and Blameless Post-Mortems and Empathy, all focused on cohesity between business and technical in owning challenges/goals/results. Are there culture-side frameworks that are emerging and gaining traction?

Topic 6 -  As you listen to the community, what we some of the most common tips and suggestions that you find help people and groups to be more successful in the DevOps domain?


Jan 03, 2019
2018 Year in Review

Show: 378

Aaron and Brian review the biggest news, trends and topics of 2018.

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  • Thank you to our sponsors, both A Cloud Guru and DataDog
  • 64% of Krispy Kreme Funding -
  • 51 Shows, Avg Listens (show): 18-20k (+19%), Avg Rank iTunes Technology: 63
  • Over $50B in M&A and VC Funding for guests (all-time)
  • Acquired: Red Hat, Rightscale, CoreOS, GitHub,, Loggly, CloudHealth, VictorOps, Bonsai
  • IPO: Pivotal
  • Funding: SWIM.AI, Stryth Leviathan, Atomist, Kasten, Lightstep, Rubrik, Hashicorp, A Cloud Guru

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Big Trends:

  1. Gartner IaaS MQ is down to 6 companies (AWS, Azure, GCP, Alibaba, IBM, Oracle)
  2. AWS growing +40% ($25B revenues) and Azure revenues ~ $28-30B (but not explicitly broken out) - AWS claimed at re:Invent to have 51% market-share.
  3. Big acquisitions around Open Source (Red Hat, GitHub, Hortonworks)
  4. A new push by Open Source companies (Redis, Confluent) to change their licensing model to help protect them from public cloud providers taking their software and not giving back -
  5. Big funding and investments around HCI and Backup HCI
  6. Kubernetes continues to dominate containers and cloud-native (see: @PodCTL podcast)
  7. New CEO at Google Cloud (Thomas Kurian)
  8. Blockchain seems to need a new PR agency
  9. Interest rates are rising (2 more raises are projected in 2019), which changes all the VC models

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Dec 31, 2018
CI/CD and

Show: 377

Description: Aaron talks with Brad Rydzewski (@bradrydzewski, Co-Founder of about the current state of CI/CD in our industry.

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Dec 21, 2018
Application Delivery and Snapt

Show: 376

Description: Aaron talks with Dave Blakey, CEO and Founder of @SnaptADC, about the international startup scene, the evolution of application delivery and the emerging trends around the intersection of networking and DevOps.

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Dec 13, 2018
Serverless Management and Knative

Show: 375

Description: Brian talks with Mark Hinkle (@mrhinkle) and Sebastien Goasguen (@sebgoa), Co-Founders of @TriggerMesh, about the evolution of serverless and functions-as-a-service in the Kubernetes ecosystem, the new Knative framework, and how companies are considering the use of functions for new applications.

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Both of you are Cloudcast alumni. Tell us about this new company that you’ve started.

Topic 2 - Sebastian, the last time we spoke with you, you had created the Kubeless project (at Skipboxx), just before selling it to Bitnami. That was when “Serverless on Kubernetes” was beginning to get very fragmented. Since then, Knative has come along to try and bring some unity around Serverless on Kubernetes. Give our listeners some basic understanding of how Knative works.

Topic 3 - Let’s talk about TriggerMesh. Introduce us to the technology, and the role it plays in a Serverless or Knative or FaaS management environment?

Topic 4 - Where do you expect to see the most innovation around Knative - Serving, Builds or Events? What are some of the areas where TriggerMesh is focused?

Topic 5 - What are some of the serverless use-cases that you’re hearing about from early customers?

Topic 6 - What are some of the things that customers are beginning to ask for that have surprised you?


Dec 06, 2018
All of the 2018 AWS reInvent Announcements

Show: 374

Description: A review of all of the AWS 2018 re:Invent announcements

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Categorizing The AWS Roadmap

  • The retail approach to all shapes and sizes (EC2, DBs, etc)
  • The combined features (“solution”) approach
  • The “we don’t know” approach - becoming “serverless” (e.g. DB, LBs, AI)
  • Customers - what do we hate about a big vendor we use
  • Amazon is the 1st customer in a new business

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Dec 01, 2018
Revolutionizing Big Data Apps

Show: 373

Overview: Aaron and Brian talk with Venkat Venkataramani (@iamveeve, Co-founder and CEO of @RocksetCloud) about building apps without pipelines, and serverless search and analytics with native SQL.

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us a little bit of your background and what motivated you to start Rockset.

Topic 2 - Sometimes we have founder guests that have a past of previous startups. And sometimes we have founder guests that are introducing something that sounds like it breaks most of the previous rules we’ve known. Let’s walk through what Rockset is attempting to deliver - “Apps without Pipelines”, “Serverless search”, “Schemaless ingest”, “natively uses SQL.”

Topic 3 - Let’s talk about some of the use-cases that might not have been possible before Rockset, or were overly complex or expensive before Rockset?

Topic 4 - You highlight that all of this is accessible via SQL, which is widely known and used by both technologists and typical data analysts. When you combine this with serverless concepts, is the focus of Rockset very much on making it easier for the masses to build and use data-centric applications?

Topic 5 - What is some of the early feedback that you’re getting from users or the community about how the RockSet approach is different for them?


Nov 28, 2018
Reinventing Software Collaboration

Show: 372

Overview: Aaron and Brian talk with Kurt Schrader (@kurt, Founder/CEO of @Clubhouse) and Mitch Wainer (@MitchWainer, CMO of @Clubhouse) about the evolution of project management for software development teams. 

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show, both us you. Give us a little bit of your backgrounds, and how you got together to start Clubhouse. 

Topic 2 - Tell us about the Clubhouse platform. It’s focused on helping companies build software more rapidly and with better collaboration. What was broken about software development before Clubhouse came along? 

Topic 3 - Both of your have been involved in software development for many years. We love talking to founders that have a built a product that they need/want to use. What were some of your moments that convinced you that it was time to build something new vs. being frustrated with what existed?

Topic 4 - Let’s talk about the Clubhouse platform. What makes it unique, and what are some of the benefits of bringing together things like Stories, Project Metrics, Kanbana boards, integrated Collaboration into a single platform vs. many tools.  

Topic 5 - The Enterprise version of Clubhouse just shipped. The company already has more than 1000 active customers. What have you learned from them that helped shape the Enterprise product?


Nov 21, 2018
Getting Started with UX Research

Show Number: 371

Overview: Aaron talks with Melissa Eggleston (@melissa_egg, Director of UX @teamworks | Co-founder of @ladiesthatuxDUR) at All Things Open about her work on UX research, how to ask the right questions, and balancing past research vs. analytics and new research

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  • Aaron and Melissa talk about her talk "Getting Started with UX Research", from the All Things Open event in Raleigh, NC - October 22nd, 2018.


Nov 14, 2018
Tales From a DevOps Transformation

Show Number: 370

Overview: Aaron talks with Lee Eason (@leejeason; Director of DevOps at Ipreo and the co-founder of at All Things Open about his DevOps transformation for all of the organization’s 30+ products and 65+ scrum teams leading to a dramatic reduction in manual work and an increase in quality and customer satisfaction across the board.

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  • Aaron and Lee talk about Lee's talk "Tales from a DevOps Journey", from the All Things Open event in Raleigh, NC - October 22nd, 2018.


Nov 07, 2018
What We Know (now) About Serverless

Show Number: 369

Overview: Aaron talks with Pam Selle (@pamasaur; Software Engineering Lead at @IOPipes) at All Things Open about the current state of Serverless applications, Serverless monitoring, and the evolution of Serverless DevOps.

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  • Aaron and Pam talk about Pam's talk "What We Know (now) About Serverless", from the All Things Open event in Raleigh, NC - October 22nd, 2018.


Nov 01, 2018
(Part III) MetLife Digital Accelerator Powered by TechStars

Show Number: 368

Overview: Brian talks with Mee-Jung Jang (@MeeJungJang, Managing Director @TechStars) about starting the program, engaging with MetLife as a corporate partner, the structure of the TechStars program, how the companies move forward beyond Demo Day, and what's next. 

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and how you came to be part of TechStars and this program at MetLife?
  • Topic 2 - In our previous shows, we’ve spoken to all of the founders and gotten their perspective. What were your early goals as the leader of this program, and what has surprised you throughout the process?
  • Topic 3 - Walk us through the stages of the program for these companies? It’s more than just, “Have an idea, go execute that idea.”
  • Topic 4 - You’ve been both a Founder/Entrepreneur and Attorney, so you’ve seen your fair share of ideas. How do you manage to know when you listen, when to give advice, and when to hold your tongue?
  • Topic 5 - What has been your perspective, as an outsider to the area, of the RTP/Triangle area in terms of culture, people, community, etc.?
  • Topic 6 - What happens next for all of these companies that we profiled, and when does the program get started again for Year 2?


Oct 25, 2018
(Part II) MetLife Digital Accelerator Powered by TechStars

Brian talks with the founders from FIX Health, Portabl and Safely, as part of a behind-the-scenes engagement with TechStars and the MetLife Digital Accelerator in Cary, NC. This show is Part 2 of a series of interviews with companies that are innovating and disrupting the insurance industry, in cooperation with corporate partner MetLife in Cary, NC.

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Company 1: FIX Health
[Update] FIX has secured a MetLife pilot to build a new short term disability product.
CEO: Mike Tinney
Atlanta, GA

  • Use game based entertainment to help a person re-prioritize physical activity and well being.
  • Already in the market. Launching a second product.
  • 92% success rate vs. 56% typically from corporate programs
  • Do you target companies with certain demographics - enjoy playing games?

Company 2: Portabl
Founders: Mike Minnet and Ali Lanning
London, England

  • Creating Insurance and Benefits for Freelancers and the Gig Economy
  • Safety net with big company benefits
  • Offer traditional company well-being for freelance workers

Company 3: Safely
[Update] Safely grew their revenue by more than $500k since joining Techstars.
Founders: Andrew Bate and Lui King
Atlanta, GA

  • The Trust and Safety Company for the Rental Industry
  • Insurance development/change is very slow
  • Insurance isn’t top of mind for people’s needs
  • Algorithms help find the bad renters
  • This builds on the growth of AirBnB or VRBO?


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Twitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Oct 17, 2018
(Part I) MetLife Digital Accelerator Powered by TechStars

Brian talks with the founders from Buddy, Enroll Hero and FitBliss, as part of a behind-the-scenes engagement with TechStars and the MetLife Digital Accelerator in Cary, NC. This show is Part 1 of a series of interviews with companies that are innovating and disrupting the insurance industry, in cooperation with corporate partner MetLife in Cary, NC.

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Company 1: Buddy

[Update] Has a signed reinsurance commitment from their Lloyd's syndicate, so their product is fully backed
CEO: Charles Merritt
Richmond, VA
On-demand accident insurance to enable people to explore the world and have adventures.

  • Adventure/outdoor people
  • Extreme sports

Company 2: Enroll Hero

[Update] Secured pilots with MetLife and Northwestern Mutual
Founders: Mark Lee and Bryan Kocol
Santa Monica, CA
Helping people make it easier to get the right Medicare
“The TurboTax for Medicare”

  • 10,000 people a day are turning 65
  • Direct to consumer business; challenges of building trust
  • “Total costs of care” vs. “Monthly Premium” costs

Company 3: FitBliss
[Update] Closed Salesforce as a customer and 10x'ed their revenues
CEO: Navid Rastegar
San Francisco, CA
"Optimize Well-Being and Productivity"

  • Integrate with many devices and services 
  • Like a personal trainer or financial planner for well-being 
  • Both an employee and employer tool 


Oct 10, 2018
Taking Spinnaker for a Spin

Brian talks with Andy Glover (@aglover, Director of Delivery Engineering @Netflix) about Spinnaker, release automation, the challenges of multi-cloud platforms, and how the community around the Spinnaker project has evolved.
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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and how you came to be involved in the Spinnaker project.
  • Topic 2 - For anyone that’s not familiar with Spinnaker, can you give us the basic concepts of the technology, and some of the problems that it tries to solve?
  • Topic 3 - Lots of people are familiar with CI/CD tools like Jenkins. How does Spinnaker compare, or is it complementary to CI/CD tools?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s talk about the Spinnaker community. Obviously Netflix released the project (back in 2015), but how has it evolved and expanded through the community?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the common ways that companies are using Spinnaker today?
  • Topic 6 - Are there easy ways for Developers or Ops teams to get started with Spinnaker today?


Oct 03, 2018
Interactive Learning for Cloud-Native

Brian talks with Ben Hall (@Ben_Hall, Founder of Ocelot Uproar, creator of @TeamKatacoda) about the evolution of helping developers learn new Cloud-native technology skills, and how Katacoda is making that an online, browser-only reality.
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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s talk a little bit about your background in founding Ocelot Uproar, and how Katacoda got started.
  • Topic 2 - Katacoda is similar to a concept that I had a while ago, I called it Cloud Garage Labs, and I’m really glad Katacoda exists now. Tell us about all of the technologies that engineers can interact with today?
  • Topic 3 - Let’s walk through the user's experience. Beyond the browser and reading the interactive tutorial, what does a user have to do?
  • Topic 4 - Some of the topics are vendor-specific (e.g. Weave, OpenShift, etc.), but many are more generic. Who is creating them, maintaining them, and how do you choose to add new things? Are there costs to adding new topics?
  • Topic 5 - What is some of the backend technology that you’ve built in order for all these topics to be hosted and delivered in just a browser-based experience?
  • Topic 6 - Where do you want to see Katacoda expand to over the next couple years?


Sep 26, 2018
The Cloudcast #363 - IoT and APIs
Aaron talks with Stuart Mitchell (@mokanix_api, CEO of Mokanix) about emerging trends in the IoT transport layer and the intersection of IoT and APIs.

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  • Topic 1 - Stuart, tell the listeners a little about yourself and your background
  • Topic 2 - With your background in telco and specifically Tata Communications, how did you develop your interest in IoT as the “next big thing”?
  • Topic 3 - Your company is called mokanix. It appears to have a different take on many other IoT guests we’ve had in that it has a focus on the intersection of SIM cards and APIs. Help folks that aren’t familiar with the basics of that need understand the problem.
  • Topic 4 - Would customers embed your API into their existing apps? How would this typically be implemented?
  • Topic 5 - Why would someone choose SIM technology over other tech for the transport layer
  • Topic 6 - How is security handled by the product? Can you lock out a card for instance if it is lost?
Sep 20, 2018
The Cloudcast #362 - Security & Service Meshes
In a joint show between The Cloudcast and PodCTL, Brian and Tyler Britten talk with John Morello (@morellonet, CTO at @TwistlockTeam) about how Service Mesh technologies, such as Istio, can be used for more advanced security of containerized applications and Kubernetes environments.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background, and introduce us to Twistlock for anyone that isn’t familiar with the company.
  • Topic 2 - One of the most popular concepts in the world of containers and Kubernetes is “Service Mesh” (projects like Istio). Let’s talk about the basics of what a service mesh does.
  • Topic 3 - Service mesh provides routing capabilities, so let’s talk about where security comes into the picture.
  • Topic 4 - Service mesh introduces a concept in Kubernetes where you deploy multiple containers in a pod, one the application and one the service-mesh proxy. Does security introduce yet another container/agent into a pod?
  • Topic 5 - What sort of tools are available today for security professionals are service meshes are introduced into a container environment?
Sep 12, 2018
The Cloudcast #361 - Single Pane of Glass at USA Today
Brian talks with Bridget Lane (@bridgetnomnom; Software Developer, Gannett & USA TODAY) about how USA Today | Gannett has transformed their internal teams over the past 3 years to be more agile and able to deliver software faster to support 100s of publications. We also discuss career evolution and advice to anyone wanting to quickly advance their skills.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about yourself and some of the things you’re working on at Gannett | USA Today.
  • Topic 2 - You’re still very young, but yet you’re working on API Management, complex automation, CDNs, containers, CI/CD pipelines. How did you gain experience in so many areas so quickly?
  • Topic 3 - You’re talking about how USA Today has been evolving to break down organizational silos and adopt new technologies to make the team more efficient. Can you walk us through some of that evolution?
  • Topic 4 - What does a day-in-the-life or a week-in-the-life of an environment like USA Today look like, with constantly new content, crazy deadlines, demand for 24x7x365 availability, etc.?
  • Topic 5 - What have been some of the lessons learned over this transformation - good lessons, mistakes, things that might be applicable to any company?
  • Topic 6 - The transformation is both organizational/cultural and technology? What technologies tended to give you the biggest improvement or new advantage?
Sep 05, 2018
The Cloudcast #360 - Multi-Cloud Cost Modeling
Brian talks with Joe Kinsella (@joekinsella, Founder and CTO of @CloudHealthTech) about public cloud evolution, and how customers are viewing multi-cloud (or hybrid-cloud) as their planned architecture, and how well they are able to manage costs across multiple cloud environments.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. It’s been nearly a year since you were last on. How are you seeing the public cloud evolve in 2018?
  • Topic 2 - Looking at market share reports, there’s still a distribution of usage - from AWS to Azure to GCP to “Other”. Are you seeing companies want multi-cloud or hybrid-cloud, or is it a matter of them really aligning with a single public cloud?
  • Topic 3 - Do you think companies understand that each public cloud does billing and cost modeling differently?
  • Topic 4 - Any tips or tricks you’ve seen that help to make it possible to normalize the differences between the billing and cost models? Tools exist, but how much friction is that creating on usage decisions?
  • Topic 5 - Do you think the public clouds are doing enough to make public cloud usage understandable, or is cloud-cost complexity just an extension of how complex IT cost modeling has always been? Are there areas where this is getting better?
Aug 29, 2018
The Cloudcast #359 - Exploring the Realities of Innovation at Scale
Brian talks with Dr. Bruce Davie (@_drbruced, VP & CTO, VMware Asia Pacific & Japan) about differences in APAC markets, what drove large-scale adoption of new technologies, how to rethink scaling new innovation, the variety across APAC and how to be constantly learning to grow your career.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. For our audience that hasn't been around networking as much, can you share with us some of your background.
  • Topic 2 - Sometimes our perspective on things is too US-centric. You’ve worked around the world and are now back in APAC (Melbourne). What are some of the technology things in that part of the world that would surprise people in North America?
  • Topic 3 - You’ve been speaking about IoT recently. Is it just the population density that makes APAC a faster adopter of IoT technologies, or are there other considerations that are creating this trend? Are regulations a factor, or mobile-phone usage, or something else?
  • Topic 4 - IoT tends to be a conversation that’s driven by a new business opportunity - it’s less about connectivity (e.g. old IT needs). How is the conversation happening between the business leaders asking for IoT and the technology leaders that have to implement it?
  • Topic 5 - We used to (sort of) think about networking (bandwidth, routing, device density) somewhat separate than security. But if densities get really high, or IoT devices are involved in country-mission-critical functions, can people afford to think about them separately?
  • Topic 6 - Are you finding that the APAC region is doing unique things to train up the skills needed for IoT / denser networking / SDN, or is the pace of change happening so fast that they have to learn on the job?
Aug 22, 2018
The Cloudcast #358 - Exploring the Business Side of Open Source Software
Brian talks with Joseph Jacks (@asynchio, advisor to CNCF, creator of KubeCon, co-Founder Kismatic, Entrepreneur) about different ways to view OSS business models, and how he's been tracking commercial OSS companies through his COSSCI Index.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us some of your background and some of the things you’re working on these days?
  • Topic 2 - You created a tracking of Commercial Open Source Software Company Information (COSSCI, “cozy index”). How did you go about collecting the information, some of which isn’t public?
  • Topic 3 - Let’s talk about “open core” and how you’re thinking about the thickness of the core.
  • Topic 4 - To a certain extent, OSS velocity relies on VC funding to gain traction. VC funding typically wants an exit. Do you think there are enough successful OSS exists to keep seeing VC funding flow in, or do you think public cloud making OSS-as-a-service will slow that down?
  • Topic 5 - Looking out a few years, you obviously have some models in your mind about how Commercialization of OSS could play out. What are some of the “truths” that you believe are not up for debate, and what are some areas you think might significantly change?
Aug 15, 2018
The Cloudcast #357 - NFV, SDN, IoT from a Hackers Perspective
Aaron talks with Ray Watson (@RayRedacted, VP of Global Technology, Masergy) about a wide range of emerging technology topics, including NFV, SDN, IoT, Hybrid Networking and Managed Security. They also explore the evolution of Hacking.

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  • Topic 1 - Ray, tell the listeners a little about yourself and your background. Your day job sounds cool, what does a VP of Global Technology do day to day?
  • Topic 2 - We haven’t done an independent trends show in awhile. I wanted to step back today and pick your brain on a few topics. We’ve talked a good bit about most of these topics over the years but I admit some of these areas have lost their “buzz” in recent years. So, A bit of a lightning round: NFV, SDN, IoT
  • Topic 3 - You spoke at Black Hat in 2017, what was your topic and how was the experience? I’ve never been and pretty sure I shouldn’t go...
  • Topic 4 - Your company, Masergy, was names as a Gartner Magic Quadrant Visionary for Network Services. I’m really interested in this category as I haven’t followed it much in the past. Masergy seems to be an intersection of hybrid cloud networking and security. Does this mean you are more of a services/consulting organization utiliting other products or are you developing your own products? (lots of follow on questions to ask here based on answers) Hybrid Networking? Managed Security?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the design and solutions challenges you face today? What pitfalls would you recommend listeners avoid when thinking about this space?
  • Topic 6 - I suspect this topic may be a little non-traditional for some of our listeners, where can folks go to learn more?
Aug 02, 2018
The Cloudcast #356 - Disaggregating Networking Software
Brian talks with Devesh Garg (Co-Founder/CEO of @arrcusinc) about the launch of Arrcus, the evolution of data networking and variations in market segments, and what makes ArcOS unique in a world of network operating systems.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show and congratulations on the launch. Tell us a little bit about the founding team and what market gap Arrcus saw when starting the company.
  • Topic 2 - Before we get into discussing the company and the technologies, let’s talk about some recent shifts in the market. We’ve seen companies moving more workloads into the public cloud, consolidation in the chip market, as well as some of the web scale companies starting to be involved in networking gear. How do some of these changes influence your thinking about the market opportunity?
  • Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the core product, ArcOS. Gives us the basics, and some of the focus areas where you believe it provides unique differentiation in the market.
  • Topic 4 - Networking has always been a hardware-centric game. SDNs eventually sort of skewed towards security. We’ve watched the software-defined storage market struggle with software-only solutions, because of performance or ops-consistency or just how people expect to buy (HW+SW). You have people on the team with experience in the white box technologies. How do you overcome some of those challenges?
  • Topic 5 - With the network having very distinct areas (core data-center or leaf-spine; access, 5G edge, CDNs, etc.), what are some of the critical business-case decisions that the network directly impacts? What does that conversation look like with the business owner?
  • Topic 6 - We’ve seen where networking skills are a very distinct category in the past, and things like CLI-awareness are critical. Do you expect the market that you’re selling to will have the need for this being a strong affinity?
Jul 26, 2018
The Cloudcast #355 - Exploring IoT Edge
Aaron talks with Farah Papaioannou & Kilton Hopkins (@kiltonhopkins), co-founders at @EdgeWorxIO, about the evolving architecture of edge computing and some of the common misconceptions, where and how to store, run, and transport data while being mindful to security.

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Topic 1 - Introductions: Farah - VC turned Entrepreneur - Also involved with SolidFire early? Kilton - IoT for the City of San Francisco and IoT program director for Northeastern University

Topic 2 - What can you tell us about the new venture?

Topic 3 - Before we dig into the platform, what is your definition of edge? Do you see it as Stacey did in her article as multiple layers of edge (device, gateway, processing cluster, cloud)

Topic 4 - What problem are you trying to solve? Explain what you mean by running applications at the data source and solving the problem of latency on round trips?

Topic 5 - OK, with the basics out of the way… Do you envision this as a platform? If so, what kind of platform and what applications (or micro services) would be a good fit? Are some/all of this open source? Where is the secret sauce (proprietary mesh framework between edge and cloud?)

Topic 6 - Lastly, what security measures do we have to worry about and what challenges do customers face in this space at present?

Jul 20, 2018
The Cloudcast #354 - Prepping for a Product Launch
Aaron and Brian talk about some of the behind the scenes details on product launches - both new products and on-going updates.

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Topic 1
- Topic 1 - Let’s start with the basics. What’s the typical checklist before a product launch?
  • Timeline and schedule (New Product Introduction (NPI) Checklists/Supply Chain aspects)

  • Multiple groups (internal & external) involved

  • Early customer involvement and feedback

  • Go-to-Market (GTM) planning
 • Multiple Transfers-of-Information (TOI’s) end to end

Topic 2 - The product is ready to go to market. How much “stuff” has to be created for all the groups that might care about the product?
  • Documentation & Message Guides

  • Pricing Models (and SKUs)

  • Field Training

  • Customer Training

  • Support Training

  • Sales and Technical content

  • Demos

  • Press and Analyst Content

  • Competitive Content
Topic 3 - What do you consider a successful product launch?

Topic 4 - How have product launches changed over the years, for things you’ve worked on?

Topic 5 - What are some commons mistakes you see companies make with launches?

Jul 12, 2018
The Cloudcast #353 - The 2018 Mid-Year Show
Aaron and Brian talk about the first half of 2018: Acquisitions and IPOs, Rating and ranking the Public Cloud, a look at aspects of Private Cloud, Containers and Kubernetes, HCI and GDPR, as well as their perspectives on AI and IoT.

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Topic 1 - It’s been a busy year for Cloudcast alumni in 2018  
  • Microsoft acquires GitHub - 7.5B
  • BonsaiAI acquired by Microsoft

  • Pivotal IPO - $555M

  • acquired by Palo Alto - $300M

  • CoreOS acquired by Red Hat - $250M

  • Splunk acquires VictorOps - $120M

  • Elastic (formerly ElasticSearch) - announced IPO plans

  • Loggly acquired by Solarwinds
Topic 2 - How would you handicap the public cloud market (leaders, laggards, emerging trends)?
  • Gartner only has 6 companies in their IaaS Magic quadrant

  • AWS keeps growing (apparently 30-35% of public cloud spending)

  • Microsoft keeps acquiring

  • Google is still TBD, but we’re going to GoogleNEXT in July

  • Alibaba is growing and starting to hear about more US companies using AliCloud

  • IBM and Oracle still seem like large Enterprise vendors
Topic 3 - Brian’s involved with containers, Aaron’s involved with Storage and HCI and some cloud integration, what’s interesting in those areas? What are the biggest trends you’re seeing in the private cloud / data center market?
Topic 4 - We’ve been trying to incorporate more AI and IoT into the shows this year. What have you learned so far, what has surprised you, where do you still have questions?
Jul 04, 2018
The Cloudcast #352 - Considering New Hosts for The Cloudcast
Brian talks with Amy Lewis (@commsninja) about the World Cup, women in tech events, and brainstorming about potential new hosts and formats for The Cloudcast.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show.
  • Topic 2 - I want to talk about “women in tech” events, or sub-events at other events. I also want to talk about women on panel discussions.
  • Topic 3 - I’d like to bounce an idea off you about having some new hosts on the show, and potentially a different format for shows.
  • Topic 4 - How would you suggest we go about finding potential hosts?
  • Topic 5 - Your kids play soccer. You’re starting to play soccer. Do you have a pick for the upcoming World Cup? Do you have a favorite soccer podcast?
Jun 27, 2018
The Cloudcast #351 - Reviewing DockerCon 2018
Brian talks with Kendrick “Kenny” Coleman (@kendrickcoleman) about DockerCon 2018 - the announcements, the overall vibe of the event, and how the community is evolving around the event.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. First off, before we get into DockerCon, give us an update on Bourbon Pursuit.
  • Topic 2 - Many years ago, when you first came on the show, you were attending one of the first Cloud Foundry Summits, so I guess you’re sort of becoming one of our official Cloudcast event correspondents. Give us an overview of DockerCon 2018 in San Francisco.
  • Topic 3 - Last year (in the US) it was all about “Moby”. Then in Europe it was beginning to be about Kubernetes. This year it seemed to be, as Darren Sheppard (@ibuildthecloud, Rancher CTO) put it “an enterprise sales pitch”. Obviously a lot has changed with Ben Golub and Solomon Hykes leaving Docker.
  • Topic 4 - What were some of the technologies or talks that interested you this week?
  • Topic 5 - Docker has always tried to be the “Apple” of containers - focused on simplicity, clean design. Did you hear any feedback from attendees about how they are accepting the shift to Kubernetes, or other changes they are making?
Jun 18, 2018
The Cloudcast #350 - Accenture Cloud Platform
Aaron and Brian talk with Michael Liebow (@mliebow, Global Managing Director, @AccentureCloud) about evolving the Accenture culture to deliver on-demand cloud services, working across multiple cloud platforms, managing complex cloud billing models, and leveraging serverless technology to improve operations.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’ve done some fairly significant things (Gov’t, VC/Board, CEO, International Business, Startups, etc.) prior to joining Accenture. Tell us about your background and some of your focus areas at Accenture.
  • Topic 1a - Let’s start by talking about the Accenture Cloud Platform (ACP) and how it has adapted to the Accenture culture (consulting). How do you bridge a culture of broad projects to a cloud offering with defined services?
  • Topic 1b - What do Accenture clients expect from the Accenture Cloud Platform both in terms of technology as well as culture/organizational shifts (e.g. DevOps, Digital Transformation, move into new markets, etc.)?
  • Topic 2 - In large corporations, what are realistic timelines before technology changes or cultural changes start to make a material impact on the business?
  • Topic 3 - Recently the ACP team was recognized for some new innovation around “tagging” cloud assets in multiple environments. How important is it to be able to bring basic concepts like tagging to corporations for consistency (terminology, asset management, compliance, billing, etc.)?
  • Topic 4 - We’ve heard that there is some pretty unique technology behind the scenes of the ACP - e.g. the entire platform runs as a set of serverless functions. Is this true, or what other tidbits can you share with us about building a global, multi-tenant cloud platform?
Jun 07, 2018
The Cloudcast #349 - VMware Cloud Networking
Aaron and Brian talk with Peder Ulander (@ulander, VP Marketing, Networking and Security @VMware) about still being interesting, the evolution of software-defined networking, how to interconnect cloud networks, and which roles and skills are needed to manage today's cloud networks.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. You were once the Most Interesting Man in the Cloud, so what are you doing now?
  • Topic 2- VMware pioneered virtual networking back when VM Admins and Network Admins had to figure out how to network virtual machines, but the world has moved well beyond on-prem VMs. Where is VMware bringing software-defined networking now? Follow Up: As someone who pioneered the concept of cloud (and owned, where do you see the future of networking? Is it all software? Do you own
  • Topic 3- Walk us through the basics and differences between NSX-V and NSX-T?
  • Topic 3 - Public clouds have their own internal networks, so help us understand what role VMware plays in networking once a company gets outside the 4 walls of the data center?
  • Topic 4 - Is this where VMware Virtual Cloud Network comes into play? Help listeners out that aren’t familiar with the product?
  • Topic 5 - Who is a Virtual Cloud Network Admin? Is that a VM-admin or Container-admin or SRE or DevOps team or something else?
  • Topic 6 - Have you ever seen Dom Delfino and the singer Pitbull in the same room together?
May 31, 2018
The Cloudcast #348 - Bringing Serverless to Rock 'n Roll
Aaron and Brian talk with Michael Garski (Director of Software Engineering @FenderDigital) about building serverless applications for their Fender Play digital learning platform. He explains how the Lambdas are built, version controlled and tested, as well as provides into the broader architecture and how their Dev and Ops teams are integrated.

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  • Topic 1 - We appreciate you reaching out to tell us about your experience. So let’s talk about your background prior to Fender and some of the things you focus on at Fender.
  • Topic 1a - Are you a guitar player? Do you have a favorite guitar riff?
  • Topic 2 - We’re going to talk about how you use serverless (AWS Lambda) for Fender Play, but before we do that, I want you to walk us through that the guitar player experiences in the Play framework.
  • Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the challenges in delivering this framework that lead you to consider using Lambda (and other AWS services).
  • Topic 4 - Let’s dive into the architecture that you’ve built. What have been easier to evolve and what challenges have you run into?
  • Topic 5 - Fender Play starts with a free trial and then can evolve to a paid service. How much did your engineering team connect those subscription requirements with your choice of using serverless technologies?
  • Topic 6 - What are some lessons or best-practices that you’d recommend to someone new to serverless (either in development or ops).
May 24, 2018
The Cloudcast #347 - The Critical Skills for AI and ML
Aaron and Brian talk with Chao Han, (VP & Head of R&D at @Lucidworks) about critical Data Science skills for AI and ML, how Data Scientists engage with Business Leaders, the Lucidworks AI platform, and emerging research in the AI/ML space.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s talk about your background, as it’s very rich both in the breadth of technology as well as the industries where you’ve applied your skills.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s start with the basics of what companies do when they hire or engage data scientists. At what point do they typically shift their thinking (or problem solving) from needing Statistical Analysis to understanding when and where AI or ML are a better fit?
  • Topic 3 - Lucidworks specializes in Enterprise Search, and is one of the primary sponsors of both Apache Lucene and Solr. How do those technologies fit into the Enterprise today, and who are newer AI/ML frameworks being built in conjunction with them?
  • Topic 4 - As you’re working with Data Scientists, where do you see their interests evolving, or what types of problems interest them today? How do you connect and communicate this to business challenges and business leaders?
  • Topic 5 - Can you share some of the research that you’ve been recently focused on that begin to start making it easier for non Data Scientists to start answering questions in a faster or easier manner?
May 17, 2018
The Cloudcast #346 - What is Observability?
Brian talks with Christine Yen (@cyen, Co-Founder at @honeycombio) about the concept of Observability, why it's needed with new application and failure patterns, how to think about testing in production, and how to manage the collection of Observability data.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we get into the topic of Observability, tell us about your background and how you ultimately came to founding Honeycomb?
  • Topic 2 - Let’s start with the basics - what is “Observability” and is this new or different from the thing we’ve called “Monitoring” for a long time? What’s changing that is driving the need for Observability?
  • Topic 3 - Digging into Observability, there seems to be this question of “how do we know if something is up?”. That seems both simple and complex (in context). Let’s talk about what that means in a distributed system.
  • Topic 4 - So Honeycomb collects data about applications in a bunch of different ways - logs, agents, monitoring APIs, etc. - What does Honeycomb do to all that information to start making it useful?
  • Topic 5 - I’ve heard your co-founder Charity Majors (@mipsytipsy) talk about this idea that Honeycomb allows people ask questions of the data. What does this mean?
  • Topic 6 - I was reading your blog about Fender Guitars using Honeycomb for their applications. Fender isn’t a Silicon Valley company. How are non-Valley companies beginning to use these Observability models?
May 09, 2018
The Cloudcast #345 - Understanding Google Cloud Databases
Brian talks with Dominic Preuss (@deesix, Director Product Management @GoogleCloud) about the breadth of GCP's database portfolio, the adoption of GCP within the Enterprise, Big Data usage, and how the concept of "serverless" applies to database infrastructure.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Tell us about your background, as well as your area of focus at Google, because you’ve done some pretty interesting things in a bunch of different disciplines.
  • Topic 1a - What’s the general mood at Google Cloud Platform these days, and what’s some of the sentiment that you hear from customers?
  • Topic 1b - For anyone that hasn’t dug into GCP, give us an overview of the various types of database services that GCP offers today.
  • Topic 2 - Does GCP see more demand for DB-migrations or new DBs in the cloud? What are the top couple of usage models?
  • Topic 3 - How are you finding that DBAs adapt to working on DBs in the cloud, or are the consumers of the services now application developers because the DBs are managed?
  • Topic 4 - It seems like we hear more about “big data” use-cases with GCP than traditional SQL DB usage. What are some of the things that attract companies to GCP for NoSQL, Analytics, or global-scale DBs?
  • Topic 5 - We’re starting the hear the concept of “serverless” being used in the context of operations of the underlying infrastructure - different from a function for an application. Can you give us a sense of how you see this trend in the context of databases?
May 02, 2018
The Cloudcast #344 - Bringing AI to Edge Computing
Aaron and Brian talk with Simon Crosby (@simoncrosby, CTO) and Simon Aspinall (@saspinall, CMO) at new AI startup SWIM.AI about the changing landscape of the cloud and edge, the vertical industry opportunities with edge computing, how AI is being applied to real-time events, and how SWIM is enabling new thinking for those use-cases.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Let’s put some voices with names, since we have two Simons today.
  • Topic 1a - You’re both coming off of successful companies that you built or grew (Simon Crosby - Bromium, Zen Source), (Simon Aspinall, Virtustream). What motivated you to get involved in both the AI and Edge Computing space?
  • Topic 2 - Let’s start with the basics. There’s lots of data happening at the edge. This means there is lots of potential value at the edge. But the computing and network at the edge is different than the centralized cloud. Walk us through how to extract that potential value?
  • Topic 3 - SWIM’s technology is called EDX. How does EDX get deployed, and what needs to live around it to make it valuable to companies. Are there edge and cloud components?
  • Topic 4 - We were learning about EDX and came across the concept called “digital twins”. What does this mean and what does it do?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the initial use-cases that you’re finding interesting in EDX?
Apr 25, 2018
The Cloudcast #343 - Container Vulnerability Scanning
Aaron and Tyler Britten talk with Liz Rice (@lizrice, Technology Evangelist @AquaSecTeam) about what's easy—and what's not—about finding and patching security vulnerabilities in containers. This is a cross-over show with @PodCTL podcast.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show Liz. Tell us a little bit about your background and the types of things that you’re working on these days.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s start with the basics. A container is defined by a file (e.g. Dockerfile) that the user/developer/operator defines. How can a vulnerability get into that file?
  • Topic 3 - Is it up to the CI/CD system or  host OS (where the container runs) or container orchestrator (e.g. Kubernetes) or container registry to figure out if a vulnerability exists?
  • Topic 4 - How do most container registries today manage vulnerability lists, container scanning and potential mitigations? What are the difficult parts of those tasks?
  • Topic 5 - Most containers today are Linux containers. Are you seeing anything happening (yet) around how to manage Windows containers vulnerabilities? Is the assumption that Microsoft will fix this through one of their existing tools, or are things happening in the open source community as well?
Apr 19, 2018
The Cloudcast #342 - Understanding Databases in AWS
Brian talks with Steve Abraham (Principal Solutions Architect @ Amazon Web Services) building and migrating databases in the cloud, how companies are managing migrations, the demands for open source databases, and how the worlds of database and serverless are intersecting.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background and also the areas you focus on at AWS.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s start by talking about the difference between new and existing databases. Does AWS see more demand for DB-migrations or new DBs in the cloud?
  • Topic 3 - What are some of the tools or services to migrate existing databases to AWS databases
  • Topic 4 - You’ve been a DBA in the past. How have you seen DBAs adapt to work on DBs in the cloud?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the ways that AWS is improving or eliminating some of the need for constant DBA interactions and tuning, or "improving" the DBA experience? “Serverless databases”?
  • Topic 6 - Any tips for how companies address databases in a microservices world? Can you break up a monolithic database?
  • Topic 7 - How does AWS think about wiring together data-sources (databases, storage, etc.) with some of the advanced AI/ML services?
Apr 12, 2018
The Cloudcast #341 - Modeling & Managing Enterprise Applications
Aaron talks with Rahul Ravulur (@ravulur, Co-Founder & CEO of @AppOrbit) about how companies are managing the transition from Legacy applications to Cloud-native applications, the challenges of modeling new environments, and how deployments have changed in the past decade.

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  • Topic 1 - Rahul, welcome to the show; give everyone a brief introduction and your background
  • Topic 2 - Tell us about your journey to leave VMware and found AppOrbit
  • Topic 3 - What are the common issues are you seeing the industry today around application deployment? What is going well and what challenges remain?
  • Topic 4 - How are the deployment challenges around “Cloud Native” applications different from “Legacy” applications in 2018? How has this thinking evolved over the last few years as customers are educated on the differences?
  • Topic 5 - How are customers using AppOrbit today?
  • Topic 6 - Where and how does application security fit into this model?
Apr 05, 2018
The Cloudcast #340 - Adding AI into Software Platforms
Brian talks with Srinivas Krishnamurti (@skrishna09; Founder/CEO of Zugata) about the evolution of workplace management, how companies should think about problems that might require AI, the level of complexity needed to add AI to existing platforms, and how to manage the Human-to-AI interactions in software.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to back the show. Remind people about Zugata and give us some updates on Self-Improvement as a Service.
  • Topic 2 - Zugata recently launched “Zugata Insights”
  1. Improve Company Culture
  2. Eliminate Gender Bias
  3. Better Understand the Skills & Attributes of Top Performers
  • Topic 3 - Zugata is a SaaS-based platform. How do you add AI-centric services to a SaaS platform?
  • Topic 4 - What is the state of available technology to add AI capabilities (e.g. existing open source tools, or cloud-based services) vs. having to hire that skill vs. retraining in-house developers?
  • Topic 5 - Your tools directly interact with human-centric issues. How much adaptation has to happen to steer AI around human-centric decisions vs. non-human-centric decisions?
Mar 29, 2018
The Cloudcast #339 - Understanding Cryptocurrencies & Markets
Aaron talks with Jesse Proudman (@jesseproudman; Founder of @StrixLeviathan) about entrepreneurship, his new company Strix Leviathan, the basics of cryptocurrencies and markets, how these markets are evolving and what's next for their platform.

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  • Topic 1 - Jesse, catch everyone up on the last few years. You had a good exit at BlueBox and then went on to a DE (Distinguished Engineer) position at IBM.
  • Topic 2 - Tell us about your journey to founding Strix Leviathan and this interesting intersection of AI and cryptocurrency. Was this a hobby that turned into a passion which turned into your next thing?
  • Topic 2a (Lightning Round) - Some cryptocurrency basics
  1. What is a cryptocurrency? What does it use as it’s basis of value?

  2. How do the cryptocurrency markets work? What are the basic elements someone needs to understand?
  3. Cryptocurrencies have been crazy volatile for the last few years. Is it good to have currency be so volatile? 
  • Topic 3 - Cryptocurrency is in the early days. What are some of the struggles today you see and the challenges folks entering this market are facing. For instance in a TechCrunch article you mention API issues with trading as an example of the infancy of the platforms. What do you think happens to the market in the both the short and long term?
  • Topic 4 - What problem is Strix Leviathan ultimately trying to solve for?
  • Topic 5 - It appears the engine today is two parts: a cryptocurrency tracker (data ingestion) and a trading engine. Correct? Where does the AI part fit into all of that? Is it doing the analysis and making recommendations on trades or does it actually perform the trades?
  • Topic 6 - Just this week you received a $1.6M funding round. What’s next for the platform and where are you headed?
  • Topic 7 - You took a slightly unconventional approach to startup with BlueBox, what lessons did you learn that you will bri
Mar 22, 2018
The Cloudcast #338 - Governance and DevSecOps
Brian talks with Josh Stella (@joshstella, CEO of @FugueHQ) about what DevSecOps means, how companies manage the tension between Developer agility and Operations stability, how to codify Governance via code, and early steps to success in DevOps culture.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and why you decided to focus on DevOps, Security, Compliance and Governance.
  • Topic 2 - DevOps is culturally hard. Moving to the cloud is technically hard (move data, refactor apps, etc.). How do you guide people about what areas of those changes to tackle first, or put more focus on?
  • Topic 3 - DevOps is two opposing motivations trying to work in harmony. How does “Sec” fit in to create this DevSecOps concept?
  • Topic 4 - In the past, Governance and Compliance were primarily Security functions, and somewhat  periodic “validation” functions. Now the technology allows them to potentially be constant guardrails and checks. What’s the state of Governance and Compliance?
  • Topic 5 - What guidance do you gives customers that ask how to get started in DevOps, Security, Compliance and Governance?
Mar 15, 2018
The Cloudcast #337 - Cutivating IoT From Farm to Cloud
Brian talks with Steve Ridder (@saridder, CEO @teralytic) and Dan Casson (VP Engineering, @teralytic) about #AgTech, nanofabrication, engaging with large, complex ecosystems, building modern IoT platforms, and how data is helping to advance one of the oldest industries in the world.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and how people from NYC and Silicon Valley know more about soli than farmers with their boots in the dirt?
  • Topic 2 - Let’s talk about soil, NPK (Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium) levels and how frequently the “playing field” in farming is changing? What are the big challenges in managing soil? How significant are soil differences around the world?
  • Topic 3 - Before we get to the technology (in the sensor and the cloud), let’s talk about the business side of IoT sensors. You have to have mass production (edge devices), ridiculously simple sensor installations, run wireless infrastructure (?), run a cloud SaaS infrastructure (or just sell the data to brokers?) and do farmers have IT departments to translate all this techie stuff?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s talk about the technology in the IoT edge sensors. They have to be precise, inexpensive, and future proof? How much is industrial engineering vs. computer science?
  • Topic 5 - Let’s talk about the technology in the analytics cloud?  These devices only transmit every 15mins. What does a cloud stack look like?
  • Topic 6 - Any advice for techies, or industry experts, to find the people to collaborate with in these vertical solutions?
Mar 08, 2018
The Cloudcast #336 - The Evolving Role of Cloud Communities
Brian talks with Amy Lewis (@commsninja, Director Influence Marketing @VMware, Co-Host @Siftspod podcast) about the change dynamics of tech communities, how people self-select into new communities (or channels), the changing rules of IT buying, whether techies needs some business skills, and tips/tricks for mentoring the next generation.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Introduction of Amy, what’s new, blah, blah, blah...
  • Topic 2 - The world has become a fragmented place; people find their safe “communities”. We can sort of do that in tech, but not as much because people change jobs more now. What’s your State of the Union for tech communities these days?
  • Topic 3 - Are you seeing the interactions with communities change (good or bad) as the rules within tech change - open source, public cloud, work in the office, etc..?
  • Topic 4 - We talked for a while, to technical communities, about “moving up the stack”, where the stack was all technology. Do you think we should be talking more about “moving across the cubicles” from technical awareness to business awareness?
  • Topic 5 - As you’ve moved around and upwards, you’re now mentoring people within the industry. Any success stories to share, or tips & tricks that might relate well to a newer generation, or just someone making a new change?
Mar 01, 2018
The Cloudcast #335 - Managing Waste in the Cloud
Brian talks with Andy Richman (Product Manager @ParkMyCloud) about which groups are responsible for cloud costs, how expectations and behaviors are changing as applications move to the cloud (Finance vs. DevOps), do we need DevFinOps, the technology that's making it easier to reduce costs, and tips for driving better cost management.

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  • Topic 1 - Introduction of Andy
  • Topic 2 - This survey was focused on “waste” in a public cloud environment. Public cloud was supposed to be less expensive and more agile. Are you seeing people having to reset expectations?
  • Topic 3 - There seem to be two phases of managing costs in the cloud. One is focused buying the right instances at the right time. The other is focused on more day-to-day operations. Are you seeing this sort of separation of functions, and is one a finance function and other a DevOps function?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s get back to “waste”. We went down this road with virtualization many years ago - just turn off what you don’t use. It was the “turning it back on” that actually scared people. What are you learning about more intelligent ways to manage the “turning off/on” process?
  • Topic 5 - AWS has started making more of their services “Ops-less” (sort of), like Lambda, and now Aurora, where you don’t have to think about the infrastructure planning as much. Do you find that people ask why more of the cloud isn’t like this, or they understand that not all workloads run (as before) in these environments?
Feb 22, 2018
The Cloudcast #334 - The Future of Edge Computing
Brian talks with Derek Collison (@derekcollison, Founder and CEO at Synadia Communications) about the future of edge computing, the impact of AI/ML on edge systems, and how Telcos and open source communities will evolve with edge computing opportunities.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’ve spoken with you many times over the years, but first time on the podcast. Your background is very well documented, so maybe give us a little glimpse into your latest company - Synadia Communications.
  • Topic 2 - (Public) Cloud Computing has grown in lock-step with the growth of the smartphone (since 2007), creating a specific pattern of application/communication and data collection. What are the forces that are driving all the attention around the Edge Computing evolution (e.g. sensors, smart cars, peer-to-peer patterns, etc.)?
  • Topic 3 - What do the economics of Edge Computing look like today? Where are the big bottlenecks, or areas for big disruption? Does it vary widely depending on the application (e.g. sensor data vs. streaming vs. telemetry) , or geography (e.g. dense cities, transportation networks, rural areas, etc.)
  • Topic 4 - You’ve talked about the Google Brain project for a long time. We’ve seen growth around centralized AI/ML for the last 5-7 years. Do you expect a different mode of AI/ML that has to emerge because Edge Computing patterns will be significantly different than centralized models, or do they need small adaptations?
  • Topic 5 - You’ve need heavily involved with messaging technologies over the years, from TIBCO to NATS. Can you share some insight into how messaging (or async communications) that might need to evolve at the edge, in more distributed types of systems?
The Cloudcast #333 - Infrastructure 3.0 for AI and ML
Aaron and Brian talk with Lenny Pruss (@lennypruss, Partner at Amplify Partners) about the evolution of application and infrastructure architectures, how AI/ML are radically changing how applications are designed, the new inputs to application systems, and how VCs are investing in companies that can augment new cloud services.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and how you eventually got into the VC side of the business.
  • Topic 1a - Infrastructure and applications evolve in 'lock-step', so where are we today in terms of this evolution and where are we going?"
  • Topic 2 - You mention this concept of “connectivity vs. cognition” is what makes ML/AI radically different from software of previous generations. Let’s discuss what that means.
  • Topic 3 - “The result is an application that is “smart,” but exceptionally data-intensive and computationally expensive”. What are the problems this creates on today’s infrastructure?
  • Topic 4 - “For ML/AI to reach its full potential, it must graduate from the academic discipline it is today into an engineering one. What that means in practice is that there needs to be new abstractions, interfaces, systems, and tooling to make developing and deploying intelligent applications easy for developers.” - Give us some of the first steps that will make this happen.
  • Topic 5 - As a VC, you’re in the business of finding the companies that might turn this into a reality. Who are some of those companies that are on your radar?
Feb 08, 2018
The Cloudcast #332 - A Cloud Perspective from Israel
Brian talks with Ariel Munafo (@ArielMunafo, TotusCloud) and Amit Dunsky (@amit_dunsky, high-T Cloud Computing), co-hosts of the CloudTalk Podcast about the Cloud Computing market in Israel. This is a co-branded show and will also be published on CloudTalk podcast channel.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background in Cloud Computing and what drove you to create your podcast?
  • Topic 2 - Let's talk about the differences in cloud cultures between the US vs Israel, in terms of venture-capital, adoption, support, innovation, etc.
  • Topic 3 - Let's discuss the regulatory issues affecting cloud adoption in each country.
  • Topic 4 - You both do some work with Israeli government agencies, what about cloud adoption by the government offices and agencies?
  • Topic 5 - Let’s also discuss local tech conferences as an index to how much the cloud is presence and how it indicates the cloud vendors' plans ahead.
Feb 02, 2018
The Cloudcast #331 - Has SRE replaced DevOps?
Aaron and Brian talk with Rob Hirschfeld (@zehicle, CEO @rackngo; Kubernetes Cluster Ops Co-Chair) about the consistency, continuum and confusion between the concepts of DevOps and Site Reliability Engineering (SRE).

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  • Topic 1 - What is the State of DevOps today? On one hand, there’s Gene Kim’s DevOps Reports (all is great), on another hand is DevOps Days which has become about Empathy, and somewhere in between are companies struggling with all of this silo-busting and automation and constant change. So where are we?
  • Topic 2 - The DevOps community seemed to want to reject all sort of labels and titles (DevOps engineer, DevOps certified, etc.) and how there is this “SRE” (Site Reliability Engineering) concept. Is this just a new name for DevOps?
  • Topic 3 - Like NetFlix had microservices, so everybody needed microservices - Google has SRE, so now everyone needs SRE? How does SRE fit into a non-Google company?
  • Topic 4 - Many Infra/Ops-centric people have been trying to learn automation and some basic programming (e.g. Python, Powershell/Scripting). SREs are often described as programmers that live in the Ops world. Can these current Infra/Ops people evolve to SRE?
  • Topic 5 - Do you find that DevOps or SRE apply more (or less) to using certain types of technologies vs. other technologies?
Jan 25, 2018
The Cloudcast #330 - Oracle’s Next-Generation Cloud IaaS
Brian talks with Clay Magouyrk (@cmagoyrk, Vice President at Oracle Cloud Infrastructure) about the architecture of the Oracle cloud, how it manages bare-metal VMs and containers, how Oracle integrates on-premises and cloud workloads, and how it integrates with PaaS and SaaS services.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Can you tell us about your background prior to joining Oracle and how it helped you design the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure?
  • Topic 2 - There was a lot of buzz about Oracle redesigning their infrastructure cloud. Can you walk us through the architecture and how Oracle delivers bare-metal, VMs and containers? Are they separate environments, or all integrated?
  • Topic 3 - How does Oracle Cloud deliver networking - intra-cloud, from region-to-region, and integrated with on-premises applications?
  • Topic 4 - Oracle often talks about “same cloud architecture in both public and private”. Other public clouds are designed differently than most on-premises environments. Can you talk about what’s the same and what is typically different in the Oracle Cloud? What do customers have to adjust to in the Oracle Cloud?
  • Topic 5 - How do Oracle customers manage to integrate different Oracle Cloud services (e.g. containers, PaaS services, SaaS services, security, etc.)?
Jan 18, 2018
The Cloudcast #329 - Tech Trade Shows in 2018
Aaron and Brian attend a lot of technology events throughout the year. They give their suggestions to trade show organizers and attendees for getting the most of out 2018 events.

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  • Topic 1 - What events do you enjoy attending? Not enjoy attending?
  • Topic 2 - What works for you at events?
  • Topic 3 - What could be improved or added?
  • Topic 4 - What should be eliminated, or re-imagined?
  • Topic 5 - Should we see more “independent” events combined (or parallel to) “vendor” events?
Jan 11, 2018
The Cloudcast #328 - Creating a Tech Podcast
Aaron and Brian give some tips and suggestions for anyone wanting to start a tech podcast.

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  • Topic 1 - Why are you podcasting? (motivation, goals, understanding the marketing)
  • Topic 2 - How much of a commitment is podcasting? (scheduling, recording, editing, publishing)
  • Topic 3 - How do you get started? (costs, tools, determine format, finding guests, awareness)
  • Topic 4 - What are the most difficult aspects of hosting a podcast? (scheduling, prep-work, consistency)
  • Topic 5 - What is involved in recording, editing, publishing? (sound quality, edits, tools, studio vs. on-the-road recording)
  • Topic 6 - How do you manage to do this along with a day job? (timing of guests, conflicts of interest, topics)
Jan 04, 2018
The Cloudcast #327 - 2017 in Review & 2018 Predictions
Aaron and Brian have many, many, many thoughts on the tech that shaped 2017, and make some predictions about 2018 and beyond.

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    Mergers and Acquisitions
  • Biggest Tech M&A of 2017 and VC Funding is down

  • Big Mergers: Amazon+Whole Foods; CVS+Aetna; Intel+Mobileye; AT&T+Time Warner; Disney+21st Century Fox

    2017 Trends
  • Storage companies are becoming HCI companies (thoughts on owning a server supply chain vs. software defined vs. commodity hardware)

  • Containers are becoming more mainstream - but so many misleading “surveys”

  • Nobody has a clear advantage in “hybrid cloud” architectures

  • Public cloud is a portfolio game and data acquisition game, not a cost reduction game

  • Building new applications is still a small % of corporate applications

  • There’s such a big gap between cloud releases and non-cloud releases (timeframes, updates, informing the market, etc.)

    2018 Cloudcast Areas of Interest
  • What happened to DevOps? Is it now in Phase 2 as “SRE”, or is it unobtainable?

  • What’s happening in China? How will it impact the rest of the Global markets?
  • Will AI & ML become tangible to non-Data Scientists? What’s the Fantasy Football of AI & ML, for business?

  • Where and how will voice technologies (Alexa, Google Home, etc.) fit in long term?

  • How will we track the Public Cloud tipping point?

  • What is Serverless most disruptive to, or is it additive to app-dev market size?

  • Should we track “Serverless” by the ServerlessConf or AWS events?

  • Should we be following “edge computing”? What are the core focus areas?

    2018 Predictions
  • Continued decline of the middleman in all industries

  • Awareness of Cloud Computing “costs” becomes more mainstream

  • Does Security even matter anymore? What bigger events can happen?

Dec 27, 2017
The Cloudcast #326 - The 10 Biggest Stories of the Year
Aaron and Brian talk about the biggest news stories and trends that happened in 2017.

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Container Stuff
1. Docker - New CEO; Docker > Moby; 

2. Kubernetes winning the Container Orchestration Wars - but do we now only talk about it being boring and irrelevant?

Cloud Stuff - When do we hit the Cloud Tipping Point
3. Azure getting bigger, but big enough? ($20B run-rate; includes O365)

4. AWS re:Invent - can it be stopped? ($18B run-rate)

5. Google Cloud - still ??? (says almost 2,500 employees)

Infrastructure Stuff
6. New Blue Print Emerging? Hyper-Converged Infrastructure & “Secondary Storage” all with public cloud integration. Also virtualization vs. containers orchestration

7. VMware’s cloud direction? - Big 3 Public Clouds have placed their bets (AWS/VMware, GCP/Nutanix/Cisco/VMware, Azure/Azure Stack)

8. Where does Serverless Fit? Does it? Is it a Public Cloud only play?

Stuff we don’t understand - We have been Emerging Tech, Where is the next emerging tech?
9. BitCoin / Blockchain - did you bet your mortgage on it? Aaron’s interesting conversation around this recently

10. AI & ML - AWS is trying to make it easier (DeepLens); everyone including AI in their products
Dec 23, 2017
The Cloudcast #325 - The Next Step in Development Automation
Aaron and Brian talk with Rod Johnson (@springrod, Co-Founder & CEO @atomist) about the evolution of development frameworks, developer productivity, the Spring community, and how Atomist is helping simplify the experience of developers interacting with containers and Kubernetes and microservices.

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  • Topic 1 - Thanks for joining us today Rod, for those that aren’t familiar, give everyone a bit about your background prior to Atomist and your background with development platforms (sold SpringSource to VMware for $420M in 2009).
  • Topic 2 - You have seen a pretty amazing transition in development platforms over the last 5-7 years. What trends made you decide to start a new company?
  • Topic 3 - This leads us to your most recent announcement, a Series A round and launch of Atomist. Tell everyone about Atomist. As I understand it this is a development automation platform. What problems are you trying to solve?
  • Topic 4 - How is Development Automation different from traditional CI/CD?
  • Topic 5 - What use cases are applications are your customers doing today with Atomist? Is this primarily cloud native apps and development on public cloud platforms? How are folks both consuming and creating?
Dec 15, 2017
The Cloudcast #324 - Data Management as a Kubernetes Service
Brian talks with Niraj Tolia (@nirajtolia, Co-Founder/CEO of @KastenHQ) at KubeCon about the evolution of data management with cloud and containers, the Kasten K10 platform and open source Kanister project, how Kubernetes is changing how we interact and manage data, and how a new approaches to data management can benefit from the CNCF community of projects.

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Dec 10, 2017
The Cloudcast #323 - OpenTracing for Distributed Microservices
Brian talks with Ben Sigelman (@el_bhs, Co-Founder/CEO of @LightStepHQ) at KubeCon about his experiences at Google, the evolution of Open Tracing, the public launch of Lightstep, how operations teams are adapting to microservices applications, and how Lightstep is interacting with new CNCF projects like Envoy and Istio.

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Dec 09, 2017
The Cloudcast #322 - Build and Deploy Cloud-Native Apps
Aaron talks with Marc Holmes (@marcholmes, VP Marketing @Chef) about the exploding usage of containers, how application management is changing, how Chef is rethinking the tools they provide to SysAdmins, Ops and Developers, and how Chef Habitat is evolving in Kubernetes and Cloud Foundry environments.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’ve been at Chef for a couple years now, and previously at Docker (and several other emerging tech companies). Can you give us some perspective on where you see the market today in this time of rapid transitions?
  • Topic 2 - We both come from a technical background and found ourselves customer facing and eventually on the business and marketing side. How has that transition been and what motivated you to make the change?
  • Topic 3 - About a year ago, Chef introduced Habitat, which was a fairly large “re-think” from the previous Chef platforms, which was more focused on SysAdmin / Ops teams. Give you give the audience an overview on Habitat, for anyone that’s not familiar with the basic concepts?
  • Topic 4 - Sometimes people will say that the existing Config Management tools are no longer needed now that we have containers, since they describe everything within their tools / files. How might you respond to those types of arguments?
  • Topic 5 - A few weeks ago Chef introduced Habitat Builder. How does this differ from Habitat?
  • Topic 6 - We see that Habitat is now supporting integration with platforms like Cloud Foundry and Kubernetes. How are you seeing the uptake of those platforms in the market, or what’s driving their adoption?
  • Topic 7 - As you’re engaging with more companies that are building Cloud Native applications, what are some of the things they do that make them successful with these new apps, new operational models, new types of IT cultures?
Nov 21, 2017
The Cloudcast #321 - This Week in ML and AI
Aaron & Brian talk with Sam Charrington (@samcharrington, Host of This Week in ML & AI Podcast) about the differences between AI and ML, how to manage data gravity, the maturity of the technology, press coverage, and the societal impacts of AI and ML.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’ve known you for a while as being heavily involved in Cloud since the early days, but you’ve been involved with AI and ML for quite a while now too. Tell our audience about your background and what you’re up to today.
  • Topic 2 - Is there a difference between AI and ML? What are some good examples of each?
  • Topic 3 - Let’s start with the basics. AI and ML always get talked about as a spectrum between basic things we all live with (like Google doing an auto fill on a search) to the scary SkyNet, Terminator stuff. Where are we on the maturity curve of AI and ML?
  • Topic 4 - What are some of the key technology elements that people should be aware of with AI and ML? Do we make a mistake by mentioning them today (e.g. AI and ML), and are they very different?
  • Topic 5 - Can we talk about data and data models/set and data gravity as it relates to AI and ML? Do you bring the data to the engine, or the engine to the data? How do companies deal with this today?
  • Topic 6 - AI and ML also have the ability to have major societal impacts on our work, from jobs to human privacy to better access to healthcare or studying global warming. Can you talk about how this interaction of technology and human interests is being covered in the press & media?
  • Topic 7 - Beyond listening to your show each week, what are some good resources for listeners to go learn about AI and ML?
Nov 16, 2017
The Cloudcast #320 - Docker adds Kubernetes, now what...
Aaron and Brian talk with Nigel Poulton (@nigelpoulton, Author and International Man of Tech Knowledge) about the evolution of the container ecosystem, the maturity of container technology, Docker's announcement of Kubernetes support and what's next, and how IT professionals are learning about containerizing applications.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Hard to believe it’s been over a year since you were last on talking about Docker. How has the container market changed, from your perspective, over the last year?
  • Topic 2 - You recently wrote “The Kubernetes Book”. Give us the cliff notes version of what readers will learn from the book?
  • Topic 3 - As you were researching this book (and your trainings around the topics), what things did you learn about Kubernetes that you’d like to use as an Admin/Ops or Developer?
  • Topic 4 - Docker recently announced intentions to add Kubernetes support to DockerEE. Given Docker’s history of wanting to control their technology, are you surprised they are adding Kubernetes support?
  • Topic 5 - Do you think their customers will care that Docker has limited contributions to Kubernetes, in terms of supporting it for the Enterprise in the long-run?
  • Topic 6 - Have you had a chance to dig into how Docker is going to implement this dual-scheduler architecture? Do you think that Docker eventually depreciates Swarm?
  • Topic 7 - What advice do you have for people trying to learn about containers and Kubernetes?
Nov 09, 2017
The Cloudcast #319 - Evolution of Prometheus Monitoring
Brian and Tyler Britten talk Julius Volz (@juliusvolz, @PrometheusIO co-founder, founder) about the evolution of Prometheus monitoring, from v1.0 to v2.0. We discuss the updated features and scalability, as well as best practices, lessons learned in production, and how Prometheus might interact with emerging projects such as Istio, Envoy and Linkerd.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back, it’s been about a year. Are you surprised at how much Prometheus has taken off since you first created it at SoundCloud?
  • Topic 2 - Prometheus 2.0 is now available (or soon shipping). What are the major things that are new in this release?
  • Topic 3 - What are some of the best practices you’ve found in deploying Prometheus in production?
  • Topic 4 - What are the biggest lessons learned, or things you wished you’d have known back then?
  • Topic 5 - Does Prometheus have a role in some of these emerging “service mesh” technologies like linkerd or Istio, that are trying to add more intelligence into application routing patterns?
Nov 02, 2017
The Cloudcast #318 - Evolution of Cloud Data Management
Brian talks with Kenneth Hui (@kenhuiny, Technical Marketing Engineer) and Andrew Miller (@andriven, Technical Marketing Manager) at @Rubrik about how Cloud Data Management is changing with the evolution of distributed systems and the use of the public cloud.

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  • Topic 1 - Ken, welcome back to the show. Andrew, welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your backgrounds and what attracted you to go work for Rubrik?
  • Topic 2 - So in the last 12-14 months, Rubrik has taken $240M+ ($292M total) in VC funding and is adding 100s of people per quarter. I thought the days of VC investment in non-cloud infrastructure companies was over. What’s going on?
  • Topic 3 - Let’s talk about Rubrik’s core architecture and why it’s so different from what companies have used in the past?
  • Topic 4 - How much are people using the public cloud as a storage destination, and what has to happen differently to get data into the public cloud vs. what has to happen in a local data center?
  • Topic 5 - With Rubrik’s different architecture (software-centric, distributed processing, etc.), what new best-practices are starting to emerge?
  • Topic 6 - From what I can see, Rubrik is mostly focused on VM-centric environments. Any plans to get into container-centric environments?
Oct 27, 2017
The Cloudcast #317 - The State of the Serverless Ecosystem
Brian talks with Ryan Brown (@ryan_sb, Sr. Software Engineer @Ansible, Author of ServerlessCode) about the overall state of the Serverless community after the recent ServerlessConf 2017 NYC, the breadth of focus areas for developers and business, the ways to integrate serverless into existing applications, and areas for newbies to the space to get started.

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Topic 1 - You’ve been heavily involved in Serverless since the very days, working on things like the ServerlessCode site as a side project. How are you seeing the community evolve?
  • The DevOps crowd was there

Lots of “is it NoOps or Not?” discussions

  • Nobody is actually NoOps. There’s a common understanding (underlined by people like Charity Majors) that someone in your org is always responsible for stuff working, or else you die. 
  • DiffOps is one term that encompasses the “you have responsibility, but one of your responsibilities is to farm out as much as is reasonable to your provider”
Any viable open-source elements emerging?

  • Lots of toy-ish “oh you can run FaaS on k8s” around, but when you get serious:
  • Serverless Framework/Zappa/Sparta/Apex
  • OpenWhisk
Some VC funding, but nothing massive yet

  • IOPipe raised at least one round
  • Serverless has a spot in the HeavyBit, and some funding
  • Stackery has about 2 million in funding
  • The real “VC’s” in serverless tooling are the cloud mega-providers (Amazon, Microsoft, Google) and the biggest teams I know of are all subteams there
How many customers vs. vendors at the event?

  • Basically 2x the first ServerlessConf, up to 450/460 attendees

Topic 2 - You gave a talk called “Harmonizing Serverless and Traditional Applications“. Outside of greenfield companies, that seems to be the common questions that companies are asking. What topics did you cover in your talk?

Oct 20, 2017
The Cloudcast #316 - Automating to Improve Cloud Spending
Brian talks with Jay Chapel (@parkmycloudjay, Co-Founder/CEO of ParkMyCloud) about the complexity of cloud pricing models, how IT and DevOps teams view spending differently, how to integrate monitoring and automation, and who is critical to making buying decisions in the cloud.  

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background, why you started ParkMyCloud and how you’ve seen the market evolve since you got started (in 2015).
  • Topic 2 - ricing in the public cloud world has gotten both more complicated (e.g. no clouds do it the same way) and simpler (e.g. sustained usage discounts, free tiers, per-second billing, etc.). How do you see the market evolving, and how much of a barrier/burden is pricing “complexity” to public cloud adoption?
  • Topic 3 - You position ParkMyCloud separately for “For DevOps” and “For  IT”. How are you seeing those as two distinct use-cases or types of teams?
  • Topic 4 - ParkMyCloud not only monitors cloud costs and recommends areas for savings, but also includes automated tasks to take advantage of those optimizations. Tell us about the automation capabilities and how your customers get comfortable with that level of control in the platform.
  • Topic 5 - What are you seeing as the public cloud buying process these days? Who is involved, what criteria do they consider, and how do various stakeholders (CFO, Project Managers, Developers) continue to get cost visibility?
Oct 12, 2017
The Cloudcast #315 - How Newbies are Learning Today
Brian talks with Tanya Selvog (@AWSNewbie, Jr. Web-Developer, Full-Stack Developer in training) about how new(er) engineers are learning skills, engaging with learning communities, and adapting to a changing job market for software developers.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. I found your name on Twitter because you have an interesting handle (@AWSNewbie) and you were telling a story about learning new technologies. Tell us a little bit about your background and how you’re evolving in the technology world.
  • Topic 2 - You decided to enroll in this immersive course (12-weeks). Tell us about that environment. What did you learn? What works, what doesn’t work, what’s the learning process, etc.?
  • Topic 3 - You talked about attending a Women in Code event in Austin and getting a chance to use some of the A Cloud Guru trainings. How does the AWS training compare to the web development training?
  • Topic 4 - You’ve mentioned that you’re engaged with the CodeNewbie community. Tell us about that group - how do people get engaged, what’s shared or discussed, how do people help each other?
  • Topic 5 - How are you able to apply these new learnings to projects or work activities? How do you market yourself to potential employers?
Oct 05, 2017
The Cloudcast #314 - Managing the Container Herd
Aaron talks with Shannon Williams (@smw355, Co-Founder Rancher Labs) about the state of the container ecosystem, the evolution of Rancher, and the explosive growth of Kubernetes.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Shannon, How many times has it been now? The last time we spoke to Rancher was at DockerCon EU, 2015 and we spoke to Darren Shepherd. A lot has changed as we’ll get into but first, introduce yourself and how are you doing these days?
  • Topic 2 - Before we dig into details, what is your take on the state of the container industry currently? What are some themes you’ve seen over the last two years?
  • Topic 3 - For those that don’t know, explain both Rancher and RancherOS. What problem are you trying to solve with each?
  • Topic 4 - Rancher as I understand it specializes in application provisioning to both Kubernetes and Docker Swarm either on-prem on to public clouds, correct? Where does Rancher leave off and Kubernetes or Swarm takes over? How is long term management of the application handled? Folks should check out the whitepaper on comparing orchestrators, I took a look last night and it is well done and “down in the weeds”
  • Topic 5 - Let’s talk about Rancher 2.0. There are some really great things in there, tell the folks about what’s just released.
  • Topic 6 - What are the common use cases you are seeing with your early customers? Are customers using Rancher for existing projects (Hadoop, ELK Stack) using the catalog or are they integrating directly in their CI/CD pipelines? Both?
Sep 28, 2017
The Cloudcast #313 - Making Sense of New Technologies
Brian talks with Alex Williams (@alexwilliams, Founder of The New Stack) about the evolution of Cloud-Native technologies, the challenges of trying to keep up with rapid change, making sense of data that explains the industry, and how to stay connected to the communities of people driving the technology changes.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. It’s now been 3.5 years for The New Stack. Tell us about the various ways that you’re covering all these new technologies and trends and personalities.
  • Topic 2 - If you had to explain the 2014-2017 evolution to somebody new to all of this today, how would you summarize all the options (companies, technologies, foundations, etc.) to them?
  • Topic 3 - How should someone try and make sense of data that is around all these projects? (GitHub stars, survey data, VC funding, the lack of vendor financial reporting, etc.)?
  • Topic 4 - Do you feel like anything since 2014 has become “mainstream” yet (e.g. containers, DevOps, data analytics), or does mainstream mean something very different in today’s world of cloud services?
  • Topic 5 - This marketplace moves very quickly. People look to The News Stack to make sense of it for them. How do you and your team keep up and organize your thinking around all of this?
Sep 22, 2017
The Cloudcast #312 - An Introduction to Istio
Brian talks with Jason McGee (@jrmcgee, VP & CTO IBM Cloud) about the origin of the Istio project, the challenges of large project teams, how Istio helps application teams, and the evolution of cloud-native application frameworks on Kubernetes.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. For anyone that's not familiar with Istio, what is it, what cdoes it do, and what types of problems does it solve for developers?
  • Topic 2 - Istio is beginning to get some traction at meetups tradeshow talks. Where is it in terms of maturity, open governance, developer participation?
  • Topic 3 - Is Istio going to be broadly applicable to new applications (cloud-native, microservices), or do you see it trending towards a specific type of use case?
  • Topic 4 - Istio is being adopted by the companies and the technologies around Kubernetes, the CNCF, etc. Do you feel like the Kubernetes architectural approach is going to be the direction that we'll see going forward for modern application development and container usage?
  • Topic 5 - What are the best ways for companies or developers to start experimenting with Istio? Is it easy to get started? Is there training yet?
Sep 14, 2017
The Cloudcast #311 - Google Cloud & Kubernetes
Brian talks with Chen Goldberg (@GoldbergChen, Director of Engineering, Container Engine & Kubernetes) and Mark Mandel (@Neurotic, Developer Advocate, Co-Host Google Cloud Platform podcast) at Google.about the state of Kubernetes maturity, how Google manages cloud services and open-source projects, Developers perspectives on Kubernetes, "boring" applications, Kubernetes Federation, and trends around Kubernetes community participation.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Where do you see Kubernetes today in terms of maturity, breadth of capabilities, ease of use, etc.?
  • Topic 2 - How is Google's Engineering structured to manage GKE/GCP services, open source contributions and partner engagements?
  • Topic 3 - What are some of the common use-cases with GKE usage? Do you also track Kubernetes usage on GCP services to see where you need to expand/improve GKE?
  • Topic 4 - Is Kubernetes easy enough, or robust enough for developers today? If not, where does it need to expand? Should this be within Kubernetes, or in other areas like Istio (or other)?
  • Topic 5 - How do you see Kubernetes Federation evolving? What might be possible for end-customers over time?
Sep 07, 2017
The Cloudcast #310 - The Mid-Year 2017 Update
Aaron and Brian talk about the new partnership with A Cloud Guru, as well as a 2017 Mid-Year update around all things cloud - VMworld ecosystem, Serverless Ecosystem, Kubernetes for All, etc..

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  • Topic 1 - Something looks and sounds different from normal. Why don’t you tell our listeners what’s going on?
  • Topic 2 - Impressions from the VMworld 2017 Keynotes and show floors?
  • Topic 3 - In talking to the A Cloud Guru team, we’re starting to see a big trend of people getting cloud training and certifications. Should we be doubling back on fundamental technologies to supplement more complex shows?
  • Topic 4 - Are we in a technology lull right now? We had containers a couple years ago, and serverless like 12-18 months ago, but right now it feels like an expansion phase. Thoughts?
  • Topic 5 - Let’s talk about some of the trends we’re seeing at this point in 2017: 
  • All vendors supporting Kubernetes (AWS, Oracle, Microsoft)
  • Is it strange that we’re heard almost nothing from Docker since DockerCon and their announcements of a new CEO and the “Moby” project?
  • We’re beginning to see some funding in the serverless space (IOpipe, Skippbox acquired by Bitnami, at Oracle) and that crazy $140M for Databricks and calling themselves “serverless data science and AI”
  • Topic 6 - We saw Amazon acquire Whole Foods recently, as well as getting back into the retail markets (people-less stores). Do you think we’ll start to see their movement into all these adjacent markets impact customers adopting AWS? Apparently Target is now moving off AWS.
  • Topic 7 - AUDIENCE QUESTION: We’ve never really focused on SaaS applications, outside of SaaS-based tool that help IT. Does our audience think we should focus on SaaS applications, and if so, which verticals should we target?
Sep 01, 2017
The Cloudcast #309 - Secrets Management for Secure Microservices
Brian talks with Seth Vargo (@sethvargo, Director of Technical Advocacy @HashiCorp) about the evolving security footprint of modern applications, the increasing needs for secrets management with microservices, the challenges of managing encryption, how to maintain highly available environments, and the evolution of Pittsburgh as a tech city.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background as a technologist and author.
  • Topic 1a - And since we’re going to talk about Vault, give us the basics of the Vault platform.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s start with the basics. Why are we seeing so many more discussions about secrets management with microservices vs. legacy applications?
  • Topic 3 - What are the core challenges that microservices applications face with regard to secrets? Is it key management, or key rotation or encryption of secrets, or something else?
  • Topic 4 - Since secrets are so central to microservices, and critical to normal operations, how do you make sure that a platform like Vault is highly available? Or what happens if it goes out of service?
  • Topic 5 - If we’re talking about microservices, the conversation typically evolves to deploying them, which leads to discussions about container schedulers. Can you talk about the challenges that schedulers have with secrets and how Vaults helps to manage those challenges?
Aug 30, 2017
The Cloudcast #308 - Can VMware cross the Cloud chasm?
Brian talks with Keith Townsend (@ctoadvisor, The CTO Advisor) and Stu Miniman (@stu, Wikibon | theCUBE) about the upcoming VMworld 2017 event, VMware’s relevance in a cloud-centric world, the Dell merger 2yrs later and the advice they would give Michael Dell or Pat Gelsinger.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show, both of you. What’s new in your worlds and what trends are on your radar these days?
  • Topic 2 - A couple weeks ago The Register forecasted that VMworld is a shrinking event and a stark contrast to the growth of AWS re:Invent. From your perspective, what’s the state of the VMware ecosystem these days?
  • Topic 3 - With Dell being private but VMware is still public, and their stock being up about 2.5x since the merger ($40-100), is there any sense of how money is flowing within VMware (e.g. R&D) vs. flowing over to pay Dell’s debts?
  • Topic 4 - You both get access to the VMware executive team during the week of VMworld. What questions do you wish you could ask them, but it’s not appropriate during the interview or Q&A formats that exist?
  • Topic 5 - Can you explain VMware’s “Cloud Strategy” to us?
  • Topic 6 - HCI (HyperConverged Infrastructure) is growing very quickly and all the vendors now have an HCI play (Nutanix, DellEMC VxRail, HPE Simplivity/Nimble, Cisco SpringPath, Red Hat HCI, etc.). Does the market need this many similar offerings? Which one of these is non-existent in 3-4 years?
Aug 25, 2017
The Cloudcast #307 - Cloud Careers, After the Whispers
Brian talks with Amy Lewis (@commsninja), John Troyer (@jtroyer) and Matthew Broberg (@mjbrender) from the Geek Whisperers podcast (@geek-whisperers) about the closing of their podcast/community, the evolution of cloud careers, and lessons learned from community interaction.

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  • Topic 1 - for us to talk to all of you together. Let’s start by talking about what Geek Whisperers was, and then why mom & dad have new hobbies.
  • Topic 2 - A lot has changed since you started, back in 2012. HW to SW. On-Prem to Cloud. Open Source. Vendor communities to lack of vendor trust. What are the big trends that wish you had a better grasp on?
  • Topic 3 - What does a 2012 Whisperer tell a colleague on career advice vs. a 2017 Whisperer?
  • Topic 4 - Do you buy into the idea that technology is moving much faster these days? And if so, have you found any good tips or tricks to staying ahead of it, no matter what part of the tech industry someone might work in (tech, sales, management, etc.)?
  • Topic 5 - What types of things worry you about our industry at this time?
  • Topic 6 - What are you hopeful about for either people in the communities you engage with, or for the next generation of folks that will have technology all around them?
Aug 16, 2017
The Cloudcast #306 - PaaS Adoption from Around the World
Aaron and Brian talk with Thurupathan Vijayakumar (@ThuruTweets, Solutions Architect | Developer | Microsoft Azure MVP) about cloud deployments in Asia, the business drivers for using public cloud services, the challenges of data sovereignty, and how companies are managing their organizations to align to microservices.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’re our first guest from Asia, joining us from Sri Lanka. Tell us about your background and the types of technology projects you’re working on today.
  • Topic 2 - Recently you wrote a book about building cloud applications on Azure. Can you talk about what attracted you to use Azure (vs. AWS or other clouds) - discuss some of the types of applications you’re building.
  • Topic 3 - You have an interesting perspective having worked with companies from multiple parts of the world. Can you give us some perspective on trends in Asia vs. other areas? What business demands are driving their technology decisions?
  • Topic 4 - How do the companies you work with manage data sovereignty and the location of public cloud data centers?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the core technologies that you’re using these days? How much do you use native Azure services vs. containers vs. other technologies? How are you keeping up with learning those technologies?
  • Topic 6 - As you’re beginning to focus on microservices architectures, how are you finding global customers adapting to what that means within their internal IT cultures and processes?

Aug 11, 2017
The Cloudcast #305 - Last Week in AWS
Aaron and Brian talk with Corey Quinn (@QuinnyPig, Cloud Economist/Last Week with AWS) about the complexity of AWS bills, the rapid expansion of AWS services, the challenges of “best practices” and the biggest AWS trends and mistakes.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and how you decided to get into the “saving money” or  “economics of technology” business?
  • Topic 2 - AWS is sort of a strange technology company to explain to someone that comes from traditional IT, in that they just release new features randomly. So it’s sort of like a SaaS, but it’s also like a big toolbox. Your newsletter helps, but how do you find that people are to keep up with the randomness of all the features?
  • Topic 3 - Do you think that AWS eventually gets too complicated for the broader market?
  • Topic 4 - Beyond the issues around costs/pricing, what are the big AWS trends that you’re tracking, or that your clients are using to improve their businesses?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the big mistakes that companies make in using various AWS services, whether they are cost-related or security-related or availability/performance-related?
  • Topic 6 - Let’s play a quick speed round before we end the show. Give us a sense of pace of growth for each of these AWS services:  
- Lambda

- Big Data (Dynamo, Redshift, Kinesis)

- IoT

- Snowball or Snowmobile (raw data movement)

- ECS (containers)
Aug 04, 2017
The ServerlessCast #8 - Managing Serverless Performance
NOTE: Sorry about the patchy audio quality in spots on this episode, we didn't notice until we edited the show that both Adam's and Aaron's connections weren't the best this time. We cleaned it up the best we could. Thanks for listening!

Aaron and Brian talk with Adam Johnson (@adjohn, CO-Founder/CEO of @IOpipe) about the momentum of Serverless, the challenge of identify performance bottlenecks, if NoOps is real or not, how APMs have to evolve in a Serverless world.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us a little bit of your background and walk us through the process of being part of the TechStars incubator program. Tell us a little bit about IOpipe.
  • Topic 2 - It took a little while for people to grasp the concept of serverless (e.g. AWS Lambda), but now it has a lot of momentum. What made you think it was the the right focus for the company a few years back?
  • Topic 3 - Why IOpipe? What problem does is solve? How is it “Included” in existing FaaS code today? How is that different from the Serverless Framework plugin?
  • Topic 4 - Serverless seems to be associated with the NoOps movement, since the underlying platform tends to do many things the Ops team used to do. Where does an APM platform like IOpipe fit into the discussion? Is it used by a Serverless Ops team, or mostly by Developers?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the common performance challenges with Serverless that people should be aware of? Follow Up: What are some of the most common emerging use cases?
Jul 28, 2017
The Cloudcast #304 - Ansible, DevOps and Containers
Brian talks with Robyn Bergeron (@robynbergeron, @Ansible Community Architect) about managing large OSS projects, how teams adopt DevOps culture and tools, the role of Containers with Ansible, the spread of OSS operations tools, and the role of automation with Serverless.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Let's talk about the Ansible community. You've been around large and fast moving communities for a while. What makes a healthy OSS community or project?
  • Topic 2 - I've been reading a number of surveys recently about important tech skills and Ansible is always near the top of the list. What do you think is driving that level of importance?
  • Topic 3 - We’re were both at a DevOps event with Gene Kim last week. Where do you see DevOps in the industry today in terms of success, best practices, etc. and what role does Ansible play with DevOps?
  • Topic 4 - Let's talk about containers. How is this space evolving? Lots of new tools, etc.
  • Topic 5 - Let’s talk about Serverless. Lots of talk about this being the ultimate NoOps movement. What do you hear from Ops engineers about how they plan to evolve with these new abstractions.
Jul 17, 2017
The Cloudcast #303 - Public Cloud at a Tipping Point
Aaron and Brian talk with Bernard Golden (@bernardgolden, CEO of Navica) about the future of the cloud computing marketplace, the expected rates of growths and areas that could impact forecasts positively or negatively.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. You’ve been recognized as a Cloud Computing thought-leader for many years. What are you up to these days?
  • Topic 2 - You’ve been advocating for public Cloud Computing for a while now. What’s changed that you’re now calling this a Tipping Point?
  • Topic 3 - We’ve seen AWS growth-rates slow for the last 7 quarters. But we’re also seeing slower growth in some older on-premises vendors (e.g. IBM, HPE). Do you think these two trends are linked together, or the law of big numbers, or something else?
  • Topic 4 - We saw Walmart announced this week that they are going to start influencing (or mandating) that their suppliers not use the AWS cloud. In the past, we saw them mandate that suppliers must have facilities located in Bentonville, AR (Walmart HQ) to reduce the costs of meetings. We’ve heard other vendors avoid AWS due to competition. Do you think we start to see non-technical trends start to make an impact on cloud decisions?
  • Topic 5 - In your recent blog, you seem to imply that only the AAG (AWS, Azure, Google) cloud platforms will dominate going forward. What do you think about platforms like Salesforce? Or open source projects (e.g. Kubernetes, Cloud Foundry, Hadoop)? Or companies building services on top of AAG that could just become features embedded in AAG?
Jun 30, 2017
The Cloudcast #302 - How Many IoT Engineers Does it Take to Enable a Lightbulb
Brian talks with Thomas Munn (@symgryph, Principal IoT Security Researcher at Cree Lighting) about the challenges of moving from manufacturing to software, planning for IoT-scale deployments, securing millions of devices, and how Ansible and Azure Cloud help solve scaling challenges.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s talk a little bit about your background in technology, as well as this project you’re currently working on.
  • Topic 2 - Cree is a worldwide manufacturer and marketer of lighting-class LEDs, lighting products and products for power and radio frequency applications. Today we’re talking about software development. Why is Cree making this evolution?
  • Topic 3 - Let’s talk about how you think about scaling a project like this, to 100s of millions of devices. Does the public cloud come into play?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s talk about the security challenges involved with managing the infrastructure, the data and all the security connections.
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the key lessons you’ve learned over the last year on this project?
Jun 23, 2017
The Cloudcast #301 - SRE and Infrastructure Operations
Brian talks with Rob Hirschfeld (@zehicle, Founder/CEO of @RackN) about the concepts of SRE (Site Reliability Engineering), the challenges of maintaining infrastructure software, emerging tools and the next-generation of operations.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Let’s start by talking about the concept of SRE (Site Reliability Engineering). Give us the basics and maybe explain how it differs from what people define in DevOps.
  • Topic 2 - Application development has been moving faster for quite a while (agile development, etc.). But now infrastructure/operations teams have to deal with faster software - especially around updates (e.g. Kubernetes releases every 3 months). How are companies managing this?
  • Topic 3 - Given that this pace of operations change may not slow down, how do you think about the challenge in terms of process/operations versus technology/tools?
  • Topic 4 - What are some of the steps that companies take to better prepare for this type of operational model? Tools, process, skills, etc.
  • Topic 5 - Do you see SRE as being a progression for existing infrastructure/operations people, or is this more focused on sysadmins or developers that want to get away from building applications?
Jun 15, 2017
The Cloudcast #300 - The Good, the Bad and the Boring
Aaron and Brian talk about the evolution of Cloud Computing over that past 6+ years - The pace of change, the impact of open source and foundations, the critical elements of public cloud, and what has been a surprise.

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Topic 1 - We’re done nearly 7 days of shows (~160hrs), had 30 companies acquired, and over 3M+ listens. Thank you to everyone that listens and tells a friend. Rate the show on iTunes!

Topic 2 - Looking back at the last 6+ years, what has surprised you the most or been the most expected? Pace of change? Rise of public cloud?
  • 2011 - AWS at ~$250M/qtr; 2017 - AWS at $3.66B/qtr

  • The Clouderati crowd

  • OpenStack / Foundations

  • Lack of Mega Mergers (“EMC Federation” model?)

  • No one really talks IaaS, Paas, SaaS anymore

  • All the $1 Billion investments in cloud…

  • AWS grew to support Amazon, Google Cloud is spin off and not core to growth

  • Kubernetes as the “final architecture” / or is it serverless...
Topic 3 - Follow the money - How has VC funding been tracking? What about exits?
  • VC investments in infrastructure have become rare, markets have moved on
  • Lots of money went into big data; now going into AI. Is it paying off?
Topic 4 - We’ve both now worked in open source. What impact have you seen this have on the tech industry? Interesting chart from Joseph Jacks about OSS-centric startups 
  • Big customers get invested and are vocal about it
  • Small customers just want stuff to work and don’t want to hire experts
  • Is public cloud the monetization model for OSS?
Topic 5 - The divide between those on the cloud bandwagon (e.g. meetups, AWS/Serverless/CNCF events) and those not (e.g. Interop) seems to be growing. The revenues don’t exactly track this, but how do you see the next 3-5 years of the industry playing out for people in the industry?
  • Infrastructure vendors will be squeezed and consolidated

  • Public Cloud will give way to the next “Big 3-4”. It was IBM, Cisco, HP, Dell, etc. Now it is AWS, Azure, Google Cloud and SaaS based offerings

Topic 6- Where are we thinking about going with the show? AI, Business-Centric SaaS Apps, Multi-Cloud realities (or horrors)
Topic 7- Let’s end on something boring. There has been some talk about the need to make some element of technology boring (e.g. infrastructure). Do you think that’s possible in the competitive technology markets? We’ve seen on smartphones, virtualization, etc.
Jun 09, 2017
The Cloudcast #299 - The Discipline of Chaos Engineering
Brian talks with Kolton Andrus (@KoltonAndrus, CEO of @GremlinInc) about his background at Amazon and Netflix, the discipline of Chaos Engineering, the challenges of breaking things in production, and Gremlin Inc’s approach to building better applications and systems.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s talk a little bit about your background and why you like to break stuff.
  • Topic 2 - A lot of people have heard about this concept (tool) called “Chaos Monkey”, but you were part of teams that made this a discipline, called “Chaos Engineering”. Help us understand what that means and what it attempts to do.
  • Topic 3 - As people build distributed, cloud applications, they are often using a platform (e.g. Kubernetes) and application frameworks (e.g Spring Boot). Does there need to be alignment between the elements of Chaos Engineering (tools, etc.) and those platforms/frameworks?
  • Topic 4 - Topic 4 - We understand that technology now drives a 24x7x365 world, but the idea of intentional chaos in production seems crazy. How does a company get buy-in to start doing this stuff?
  • Topic 5 - What are some commons mistakes, design faults that companies make that Chaos Engineering often finds….and can help resolve?
  • Topic 6 - How does Gremlin fit into the world of Chaos Engineering?
May 26, 2017
The Cloudcast #298 - An Introduction to Linkerd
Brian talks with William Morgan (@wm, Founder/CEO of @buoyantio) about his background at Twitter, an introduction to Linkerd and the concept of Service Mesh, how Linkerd compares to other application logic, and the role of foundations (e.g. CNCF) vs. communities.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s talk a little bit about your background and why you decided to bring Linkerd and ultimately Buoyant to market.
  • Topic 2 - Give us the basics of what Linkerd does and what it is useful for cloud-native applications?
  • Topic 3 - You talk about this concept called a “Service Mesh”. What is that and what does it provide for applications?
  • Topic 4 - There are existing alternatives to Linkerd in both the platform world (e.g. native Kubernetes services) and the application framework world (e.g. Spring Boot/Cloud). How do you help people sort out when one makes sense vs. another?
  • Topic 5 - Linkerd is now an official project within the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF). CNCF now has many projects. Is Buoyant aligning their technology roadmaps to other CNCF projects, or do they tend to operate independently and be driven by customer/community demand?
May 18, 2017
The ServerlessCast #7 - Go Sparta Framework
Aaron talks with Matt Weagle (@mweagle, Startup Entrepreneur and creator of the Go Sparta framework for AWS Lambda) about the origins of serverless, the state of the community, why so many developers attend and what he's solving with the Go Sparta framework for AWS Lambda.

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  • Topic 1 - As a "serverless veteran", what are your thoughts on the state of serverless?
  • Topic 2 - Why do you think the serverless events tends to draw so many developers and practitioners vs. the normal crowd of vendors?
  • Topic 3 - How can people better engage with the community beyond this event? Are there Slack channels?
  • Topic 4 - Let's talk about the Go Sparta project, the Go framework for AWS Lambda.
  • Topic 5 - What are the use-cases that you see where serverless makes sense?
  • Topic 6 - What are the challenges that people are still struggling with?
May 13, 2017
The ServerlessCast #6 - Event-Driven Design Thinking
Aaron and Brian talk with Paul Johnston (@PaulDJohnston, Serverless Consultant, CTO @Movivo) about running a company entirely on serverless, the on-going benefits of not maintaining servers, new application patterns with events, and what he wants to see from serverless in the future.

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  • Topic 1 - You just gave a talk at ServerlessConf about how CTO's can consider using serverless for their products or services.
  • Topic 2 - Tell us about the origin of the term "Jeff" as it relates to serverless.
  • Topic 3 - Let's talk about the benefits that you're seeing in running Movivo completely on a serverless environment.
  • Topic 4 - How has your thinking changed about 3-tier applications and architectures vs. event-driven architectures?
  • Topic 5 - What is a "bulky function"? How to evolve from procedural thinking to event or asynchronous thinking?
  • Topic 6 - How do you think about optimizing the many functions that make up an application?
May 11, 2017
The Cloudcast #297 - Bonsai and Enterprise Industrial AI
Aaron talks with Dave Cahill (@dcahill8, VP Sale and Marketing, Bonsai) about Enterprise/Industrial AI and emerging use cases. Topics include understanding various forms of AI, developer integration, and where and how AI will fit.

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  • Topic 1 - Tell everyone a little bit about Bonsai? What problem are you trying to solve?
  • Topic 2 - Everyone thinks robots when they think AI but this isn’t the case most of the time, correct? It’s more about sensors and data and the ability to make more accurate decisions faster?
  • Topic 3 - In a recent blog post, you mentioned that their is a Use Case Spectrum for AI that ranges from Augmentation to Autonomy. Help everyone wrap their head around that.
  • Topic 4 - Mark Hammond (Founder and CEO) talks about the democratization of AI, what does he mean by this?
  • Topic 5 - Mark has mentioned, AI will become a low level toolkit the way databases have. It took me awhile to wrap my head around what he meant by that. But, as I understand it, no one “builds” a database into their app anymore, is he saying that in order to reach mass adoption, most developers won’t build in AI in the future?
  • Topic 6 - You have three main phases to Bonsai BRAINs: Build, Teach, Use. Explain to folks out there what what that means. There is an example of teaching an AI to play the old Breakout style game on the front page of the website.
May 07, 2017
The ServerlessCast #5 - ServerlessConf and IBM OpenWhisk
Aaron talks with Jason McGee (@jrmcgee, VP & CTO IBM Cloud) about IBM OpenWhisk and Bluemix. Topics include event driven vs. FaaS, on-prem solutions, open source, use cases and early adoption. Recorded at ServerlessConf in Austin. (Sorry for the background noise, we had to record outside)

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May 02, 2017
The ServerlessCast #4 - ServerlessConf and Azure Functions
Aaron and Brian talk with Chris Anderson (@crandycodes, PM for Azure Functions) and Yochay Kiriaty (@yochayk, PM for Azure Functions) about Azure Functions and platform integrations from ServerlessConf in Austin. (Sorry for the background noise, we had to record outside)

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Apr 30, 2017
The Cloudcast #296 - KubeCon, DockerCon, Azure Functions and Bears, Oh My!
Aaron and Brian review KubeCon 2017 (Berlin), DockerCon 2017 (Austin) and Aaron’s trip to Seattle to learn more about Azure Functions. They also read a bunch of sponsor ads for sponsors they don't have. Use offer code CLOUDCAST to get awesome discounts and free stuff (or not).

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Topic 1 - Let’s talk about CloudNativeCon + KubeCon
  • About 1200-1500 attendees
  • Lots of Kubernetes projects (60+)
  • Microsoft bought Deis
  • IBM now supports Kubernetes
  • New focus on making the UI/UX better
Topic 2 - Let’s talk about your visit to Seattle to learn more about Azure Functions Azure Functions 
  • Languages they use 
  • Event Driven and Trigger Based Code 
  • Terminology is very developer friendly, specifically Enterprise Developer friendly 
  • Use cases were very real world, customer references were presented well 
  • I could see the use case and the problem it solves (compared to others it seems abstract at times) 
  • Bindings were a differentiator 
  • I was surprised by the number of external bindings. Of course there were all the MSFT internal ones, but you had JIRA, github, Trello, Asana, etc. It was impressive to see the binding ecosystem App Insights - ability to debug/trace/monitor 
  • Logic Apps is like a visual pipeline to build step functions into a workflow 
  • Came in not knowing really anything and came away with a very clear picture of how they plan to be successful and I give them good odds for sure. Hell, they're Microsoft...
Topic 3 - Let’s talk about what got announced at DockerCon 2017 
  • Docker to Moby (what does that mean??)
  • LinuxKit - DIY Linux, UniKernel, Windows
  • Enterprise Apps, Oracle, Microsoft
Topic 4 - Let’s talk about what we expect to see/hear at ServerlessConf Austin 
  • Differences between various implementations

  • Users vs. Vendors vs. Consultants
  • Are they all cloud-specific or will we see a cloud-agnostic serverless emerge
  • Understand the Serverless Framework 
  • Better understand use-cases and application patterns
Apr 21, 2017
The Cloudcast #295 - Integrating Cloud Security and Cost Management
Aaron and Brian talk with Aaron Newman (@aaronnewman, CEO / Co-Founder of @CloudCheckr) about the need for consolidated operations tools in the cloud, how to manage security across multiple clouds, how cloud costs can correlate to security, and the new challenges of compliance in public clouds.

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  • Topic 1 - Let’s jump right into the company. CloudCheckr seems super interesting to us because it appears to be a consolidation of everything operations. Everything from Security, Cost, Availability, Compliance and Usage. What problems are you trying to solve in the market today?
  • Topic 2 - You have a security background based on your previous startups, what made you take your application level expertise and apply this to cloud?
  • Topic 3 - CloudCheckr supports both AWS and Azure today. From a security standpoint, compare and contrast them for us.
  • Topic 4 - What is CloudCheckr’s strategy when it comes to both identification and resolution of security compliance?
  • Topic 5 - Another big aspect of CloudCheckr is cost awareness. How does cost awareness relate to security?
  • Topic 6 - [from recent press-release] “CloudCheckr currently services over 150 AWS and Azure authorized resellers and provides support to nearly 40% of all AWS Premier Consulting Partners.” Can you talk a little bit about your business model and the interaction between customers and partners?
  • Topic 7 - Last month CloudCheckr announced $50 million in Series A funding. You have expressed mixed feelings in the past about accepting VC money. We have a lot of listeners that follow this space closely. What are your thoughts here on the tradeoffs and what advice would you give to up-and-coming founders out there?

Apr 12, 2017
The ServerlessCast #3 - From Garage to 200k Users in 4 weeks
Aaron and Brian talk with Sam Kroonenburg (@samkroon, Founder of A Cloud Guru) and Peter Sbarski (@sbarksi, Founder of A Cloud Guru) about why they built their platform on serverless, the state of the serverless community/market, the trends they have seen evolve at ServerlessConf events, and how different offerings and platforms are quickly evolving.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the podcast. We last spoke a little over a year ago on the initial topic of public cloud training. Y’all threw in a little blurb at the end that you were doing all of this on a framework you were starting to call “serverless”. Things have exploded from there. Give us an update on A Cloud Guru first of all.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s jump into Serverless and the state of the “industry” since then. You are operating one of the “oldest” serverless frameworks around and have built a very successful business on it. Tell us first of all about the current state of operations at A Cloud Guru. How have things progressed in the face of some pretty incredible growth over the last 2 years.
  • Topic 3 - Serverless Conference is coming up in Austin at the end of the month. A Cloud Guru has been the principal organizer of the conference. How have the events changed and matured? What was your favorite session or moment from past events? What do we have to look forward to in Austin?
  • Topic 4 - For anyone that’s watching the serverless movement from the sidelines, how would you summarize it’s current status today? Is it just AWS Lambda and a fragmentation of everything else?

Apr 07, 2017
The Cloudcast #294 - DevOps Before It Was Cool
Aaron talks with Matthew Boeckman (@matthewboeckman, owner, ex-VP of DevOps Craftsy) about life in the DevOps trenches at a high growth startup over the course of six years. Lessons learned, and a glimpse into what’s next in the industry.

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  • Topic 1 - We first met at AWS Re:Invent a few years ago while you were still at Craftsy and I was fascinated by your journey to where you are now. You were doing DevOps before it was cool. Tell us a little about your history and your run up to opening your own consulting business?
  • Topic 2 - What were your keys to success running both DevOps and Operations?
  • Topic 3 - As a practitioner, how much do you follow the DevOps community? Are there certain people or trends that you follow? What is interesting to you these days?
  • Topic 4 - Looking back, what would you have done differently?
  • Topic 5 - We have a lot of listeners that are just starting out, how would you recommend they get started?
  • Topic 6 - What made you decide to leave your role at Craftsy and hang out your own signpost?

Apr 02, 2017
The Cloudcast #293 - Silicon Hollow, From Coal Miners to Coders
Brian talks with Justin Hall (@jhalljhall, President of @BitSourceKY) and Payton May (Creative Director of @BitSourceKY) about how they are using developer skills to help rebuild a region that has been impacted by the decline in the coal mining industry. We discuss how they training former coal miners, how they are building apps to address serious issues in their community, and recent media highlighting their efforts and projects.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background (both in technology and elsewhere) as well as some of the areas where BitSource is focused?
  • Topic 2 - Tell us about Pikeville, Kentucky and why it’s not like Silicon Valley.
  • Topic 3 - BitSource Founder Rusty Justice - “He cofounded Bit Source, a code shop that builds its workforce by retraining coal miners as programmers. Enthusiasm is sky high: Justice got 950 applications for his first 11 positions. Miners, it turns out, are accustomed to deep focus, team play, and working with complex engineering tech. “Coal miners are really technology workers who get dirty,” Justice says.”
  • Topic 3a - Tell us about the process you used to train these former coal miners? What tools or trainings did you use? How did you prioritize the types of projects to take on, that matched the skills you had available?  [Did they have any existing technical skills?]
  • Topic 4 - When we spoke earlier, you mentioned that BitSource was working on an “Uber” like project, but with a much different goal of ride sharing. Tell us more about this project.
  • Topic 5 - You also mentioned that you’re being mentioned/highlighted in an upcoming HBO special. Can you tell us more about this? You've also been recognized for Fortune: "1 of 7 world changing companies to watch" and
    Popular Mechanics: Breakthrough Award
  • Topic 6 - How can we help you tap into a broader technical community?
Mar 22, 2017
The Cloudcast #292 - VMware, Beyond Virtualization
Aaron and Keith Townsend (@ctoadvisor) talk to Chris Wolf (@cswolf, VP & CTO, Global Field & Industry at VMware) about emerging trends in the Enterprise and he gives us some insight into where he thinks the industry will go in the next few years.

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  • Topic 1 - It’s been a little over 3 years since you’ve gone over to VMware, leaving the analyst side at Gartner. How has the adjustment been? What’s been the biggest change?
  • Topic 2 - Tell us about how what trends you are seeing in the industry and what is interesting to customers you talk too.
  • Topic 3 - You wrote a blog series at the end of 2016 about the Third Industrial Revolution, tell everyone what you meant by that.
  • Topic 4 - We talk to a lot of CTO’s and VC folks, it is always great to get their personal views as well, what is interesting to you personally these days?
  • Topic 5 - Let’s talk VMware a bit, where do you see VMware’s vision talking the company in both the short and long term?
  • Topic 6 - Something we see a lot of interest in lately is Function Based computing, sometimes referred too as Serverless. Will VMware be pursuing this technology as the next technology horizon post containers? How would other infrastructure products such as NSX or VSAN fit into this picture?
Mar 17, 2017
The Cloudcast #291 - Thoughts from Google Cloud NEXT 2017
Aaron and Brian review the Google Cloud NEXT 2017 event.

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  • Topic 1 - What were our overall thoughts on the show vs. our expectations coming into the week?
  • Topic 2 - Let’s talk about the Google Cloud Community event, hosted by Sam Ramji and Sarah Novotny, before the Google Cloud NEXT event.
  • Topic 3 - What is your impression of the 2017 show vs. the 2016 show? Have the changes been good?
  • Topic 4 - What has impressed you about the messaging and technology at Google Cloud NEXT 2017? What were your favorite technologies announced this week?
  • Topic 5 - What has surprised you or been disappointing about the messaging and technology at Google Cloud NEXT 2017?
  • Topic 6 - Where do you now put Google Cloud in relation to other public cloud vendors as well as other technology vendors that companies can choose to work with these days?
Mar 12, 2017
The Cloudcast #290 - Managing Data Across Multiple Clouds
Aaron and Brian talk with Joe Arnold (@joearnold, Founder/Chief Product Officer @SwiftStack) about the evolution from OpenStack to today’s public cloud world. They discuss how customers are managing, valuing and protecting data in multiple cloud environments, as well as how they should think about avoid large-scale cloud failures.

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  • Topic 1 - Great to have you back on the show. Let’s talk about the evolution from the OpenStack community to the public cloud communities.
  • Topic 2 - With the growth of public cloud services, are you seeing companies doing new things with data that weren’t common in the private data-center days? New types of applications, or just different usage models?
  • Topic 3 - With all the talk about hybrid-cloud or multi-cloud, how are companies actually getting the data from one cloud into another?
  • Topic 4 - Is there a difference between running software-defined storage in multiple locations and having a platform that can interact with multiple cloud APIs?
  • Topic 5 - What is your guidance to companies that have large amounts of data, but also want to leverage multiple cloud platforms (for various reasons - cost, risk-management, local data services, etc.)
  • Topic 6 - It had been a while since there was a significant public cloud outage. With the recent S3 outage, do companies need to come back and ask new questions about how to think about data and the public cloud?
Mar 11, 2017
The Cloudcast #289 - Enabling Voice-First Ecosystems
Aaron talks with Alex Linares (@linaresa, Co-founder & CPO, @VoiceLabsCo) and Terren Peterson (@Terren_in_VA, Alexa Dev Champ, @CapitalOne) about the emerging voice operating system market, driven by products like Amazon Echo/Alexa and Google Assistance, as well as the range of applications and data analysis being built upon these platforms.

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  • Topic 1 - We’ve got two great guests tonight. Adam and Terren, please introduce yourselves and give us some of your backgrounds.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s talk about the “voice-first” market. It’s no longer cool for people to use their telephone for “voice calls”, but talking to computers is an exploding market. Give us the basics.
  • Topic 3 - Terren, you’re an “Alexa Dev Champ”. Give us a sense of what the Alexa skills mean for your work at Capital One? How does this tie into the future of banking or credit cards?
  • Topic 4 - Alex, Voice Labs is focused on the analytics behind these voice services. Can you give us a sense of not only the technology behind your analytics platform, but some of the interesting use-cases companies are able to create with your analytics?
  • Topic 5 - Cloud Computing has completely reshaped the role of IT and how developers interact with resources. How is this voice-first movement going to reshape industries, or open up new industry capabilities?
  • Topic 6 - Many people know the physical devices from Google or Amazon, but these capabilities are being embedded in many other devices. How far will we see the voice-first capabilities expand? (cars, phones, etc.)
  • Topic 7 - What’s the best way for developers to get started with this technology?
Feb 24, 2017
The ServerlessCast #2 - Kubeless - Serverless Framework for Kubernetes
Brian talks with Sebastien Goasguen (@sebgoa, Founder @skippbox)about his experience with containers, the focus of Skippbox, market demand for serverless, the architecture of Kubeless, and how the emerging serverless+kubernetes projects need to evolve.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us some of your background, as well as what you’re doing at Skippbox these days.
  • Topic 2 - Before we jump into “Kubeless”, let’s talk about what you’re hearing around serverless in the market today.
  • Topic 3 - Tell us about the Kubeless architecture.
  • Topic 4 - With different serverless functions, they initially support a limited subset of languages. Since Kubernetes is language agnostic, why does the limitation exist, or how complex is it to add new languages?
  • Topic 5 - You mention on the project’s GitHub page that there are other “serverless on Kubernetes” alternatives out there (Funktions, Fission, OpenWhisk, etc.). Do you expect that one of these projects will emerge, or do you see these starting to merge and just become a job type within Kubernetes?
  • Topic 6 - Let’s come back to Skippbox. You have a focus on Kubernetes and the tooling around making it easier to deploy and run. What are you seeing in the Kubernetes market and when are people engaging with Skippbox?
Feb 17, 2017
The Cloudcast #288 - Understanding Public Cloud Spending Trends
Aaron and Brian talk with Mat Ellis (@matellis, Founder/CEO of @cloudability) about the evolution of public cloud spending, the knowledge level of cloud buyers, how AWS is trending vs. Azure and GCP, the market for Reserved Instances and how companies are beginning to think about Serverless computing.

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  • Topic 1 - Great to have you back on the show. First off, how are things going at Cloudability? We see that Cloudability is now managing the costs of nearly 1/3rd of all AWS usage.
  • Topic 2 - The last time we talked, most of the public clouds did not report revenues, but we’re now seeing that broken out. Give us a high-level view of what’s happening with spending in the public clouds? How has it evolved over the last couple years?
  • Topic 3 - Cloudability has always had a strong focus on AWS, but what are you seeing in the market in terms of demand for Azure, GCP or IBM’s cloud?
  • Topic 4 - Cloudability focuses a lot on not just cost awareness, but helping companies be smart about planning purchases via Reserved Instances. How is the learning curve evolving for the market? Are their secondary markets emerging for Reserved Instances?
  • Topic 5 - Do you get asked a lot by companies to help them compare internal costs vs. public cloud costs?
  • Topic 6 - Let’s talk about “serverless”. How much interest do you hear about that, and what sort of costing questions are people asking?
Feb 10, 2017
The Cloudcast #287 - Venture Capital and the Cloud Native Landscape
Aaron and Brian talk with RedPoint Ventures (Scott Raney (@sraney) General Partner at RedPoint Venture Capital (@redpointvc)) about the evolving role of Venture Capital, the Cloud Native Landscape, open source business models, how to many rapid change, and competing / partnering with AWS.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We always love to get a Venture Capital perspective on the show from time to time. Tell us about yourself and maybe a little bit about your current areas of focus.
  • Topic 2 - At the recent CNCF event (KubeCon, etc.), Dan Kohn introduced the Cloud Native Landscape, which was built in partnership with RedPoint Ventures. Help us understand the framework and how people are using it today.
  • Topic 3 - Many of the things on that landscape are either open source projects or companies that are commercializing some aspect of those projects. We’ve heard various theories on what those business models look like, but I’m curious about how you advise your companies in this space.
  • Topic 4 - Let’s talk for a second about the pace of change. Things are moving faster than ever. How do you advise companies to build their business, whether it’s long-term or IPO or M&A, or just survival techniques?
  • Topic 5 - Twilio is one of your portfolio companies, and they were highlighted at AWS re:Invent last week. AWS often creates services that overlap companies that run on the platform. How much does someone like Twilio worry that there will be something like “AWS Telephone” being announced in 2017?
  • Topic 6 - We just had an election here in the US and a certain amount of uncertainty and change is inevitable with any new administration. How does RedPoint think about this transition and how it impacts existing portfolio companies and your investment thesis for the future?
Feb 01, 2017
The ServerlessCast #1 - Project Fission
Brian talks with Madhura Maskasky (@MadhuraMaskasky; Founder/VP of Product @platform9sys) about managing distributed cloud platforms, the evolution from OpenStack to Kubernetes in the market, the demand for Serverless capabilities, Project Fission and the use-cases for Serverless.

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  • Topic 1 - Platform9 has evolved from a hosted OpenStack platform to hosted Kubernetes and Serverless. What trends are you seeing in the market to bring these new offerings to market?
  • Topic 2 - Both containers and new, cloud-native/microservices applications are getting a lot of attention. Do you find customers tying those two trends together, or is adoption somewhat independent?
  • Topic 3 - Let's talk about the serverless offering, Fission. Can you give us the basics of the technology and your thinking behind making it open source?
  • Topic 4 - What are you hearing the market about serverless adoption/interest, and is there a specific set of use-cases that you're initially targeting?
  • Topic 5 - Are the Fission and Kubernetes offerings linked together? If so, I'm curious about how much of a role you see containers and Kubernetes playing in the future of serverless implementations.
  • Topic 6 - Since Fission is open source, do you primarily see if being run on your platform (or a public cloud platform), or do you see a place for serverless application on-premises for customers?
Jan 24, 2017
The Cloudcast #286 - Balancing Monolithic Apps and Microservices
Brian talks with Burr Sutter (@burrsutter, Director of Developer Experience @RedHatNews) about the Java application community, how companies are managing their existing applications, how they can ship updates faster and with better quality, and the evolution of microservices in the Java world.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background (developer, technologies) and some of the things you’re focused on these days.
  • Topic 2 - You’re well known in the Java community, and the Java community is going through some changes over the last couple of years. Where is Java in it’s evolution from monolithic applications to microservices?
  • Topic 3 - One of the talks you often give is around this concept of “breaking up the monolith” (BUM). Give us the basics of what this means.
  • Topic 4 - For companies that have existing monolithic Java applications, what are some of the basics that are helping them ship faster or creating better quality code? Is this more about evolving middleware technologies or is it more about evolving culture and process?
  • Topic 5 - Let’s talk about microservices in the Java world. There is the Spring framework and elements of the NetFlix OSS tools. Is that the evolution of Java, or are there additional options for companies?
  • Topic 6 - It’s January and everyone would like to get in better shape for the new year. What’s your Java application equivalent for people to eat better and exercise more? Or does everyone need to join the CrossFit of Java?
Jan 13, 2017
The Cloudcast #285 - Automation, DevOps & Reddit
Aaron and Brian talk with Jason Edelman (@jedelman8, Founder @networktocode), and Matt Oswalt (@mierdin, Software Engineer @stackstorm) about the state of automation in the industry, how people are evolving their skills, if any of this DevOps is real, and what’s it’s like to be Internet Famous for a day.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show Jason and welcome to the show Matt. Tell about what you’re working on these days.
  • Topic 2 - What are the big trends (around automation) or popular practices that you’re seeing in the market these days?
  • Topic 3 - Both of you guys are essentially “self taught” software/automation engineers. But there’s a bunch demand for people to learn these skills and tools. How are you seeing people learn how to make automation helpful to their jobs?
  • Topic 4 - Matt, you’ve been at both mid-sized companies and web-scale companies and open source companies. Is there anything applicable between those two types of worlds that people can take for their jobs?
  • Topic 5 - You’re both focused on networking. How much of automation needs to be on software elements (e.g. SDN, etc.) and how much has evolved from existing systems?
  • Topic 6 - OK, let’s talk about this Reddit thing. First off, tell people what Tech Field Day is, and then give us the timeline about learning about this Reddit thread.
Jan 11, 2017
The Cloudcast #284 - 2016 Review & 2017 Predictions
Aaron and Brian review the state of The Cloudcast, review the biggest stories in 2016, and make predictions about 2017.

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  • Listens up 70% YoY; 50 Shows in 2016

  • 2017 will be the 7th year of the show. 
  • Thank you to 2016 Sponsors: Intel Cloud For All, Service Now
  • [DONATIONS] Krispy Kreme Challenge 2017
  • Most Popular Shows: Serverless, DevOps, Containers, Microservices) - all time shows all in 2016
  • VC Funding + M&A activities: now over $7.6B ($2.65B VC, $4.98B M&A, 25 acquisitions) - last year closed just north of $5B. 
  • The Cloudcast listed on several “watch lists” for Blogs/Podcasts
  • ServerlessCast (@serverlesscast) shows (red logo) in your pod-catcher
  • Weekly | Bi-Weekly “what to watch” shows ~ 10mins - (blue logo) in your pod-catcher
  • The Technical MBA” project

Looking Back at 2016:
Tech Acquisitions + M&A + IPO: 

  • Oracle bought NetSuite (SaaS consolidation)
  • Dell finalized acquisition of EMC/VMware/Pivotal (Hardware consolidation)
  • Nutanix IPO (down about 23%)
Software-Eating the World M&A:
  • Unilever acquires Dollar Shave Club (personality, online only)
  • Walmart acquires Jet (like
  • GE Digital acquires ServiceMax (field services via cloud)
  • Capital One gives away Echo at AWS re:Invent

Prediction Topic 1 - Technology

  • Enterprises and the Public Cloud - how does this evolve? 

  • Containers (ecosystem) 
  • Serverless 

  • AI, Machine Learning, Data Gravity

  • SDN? Remember that?

  • (Hyper) Converged Infrastructure

Prediction Topic 2 - The Economy

  • VC funding has been down. Do we see fire-sale acquisitions?

  • Have VC moved out of the segment that we discuss on The Cloudcast? 

  • Will more legacy vendors go private-equity (eg. Cisco, Juniper, NetApp, etc.)?

  • Most have thrown in the towel on visions of public cloud

  • If the economy goes bad, does that help SaaS or IaaS more (capex vs. open)? 

Prediction Topic 3 - Politics

  • Will Trump pick a fight with Jeff Bezos? 

  • Will regulation impact things like autonomous driverless vehicles?

  • Will there be any efforts to encourage work outside the major tech areas?
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The Cloudcast #283 - The Public Cloud
Aaron and Brian talk about the state of the public cloud, where each of the big 3 fit in the global IT picture, the big trends happening (mostly) in public cloud and what people should be tracking as we move into 2017.

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  • Topic 1 - At the end of 2016, what is the general state of the Public Cloud, in all areas? (SaaS application, pricing?, Apple?, Facebook?
  • Topic 2 - Where does AWS sit in the global IT landscape?
  • Topic 3 - Where does Azure sit in the global IT landscape?
  • Topic 4 - Where does GCP sit in the global IT landscape?
  • Topic 4a - Does any other cloud matter except those Big 3? (e.g. Baidu, Alibaba, etc.)
  • Topic 5 - What trends, technology, problems, are emerging and should on people’s radar in 2017? (Open Source, SaaS, Serverless, IoT, Machine Learning, AI, Bots, GitHub
  • Topic 6 - What did we lose in 2016 from a Public Cloud perspective? (VMware, Cisco, HPE Helion, Oracle? ,Security, etc.)?
Dec 27, 2016
The Cloudcast #282 - Managing Multi-Cloud Services
Brian talks with Joe Kinsella (@joekinsella, Founder and CTO of @CloudHealthTech) about his background at startups, the growth of the AWS ecosystem, how the buying patterns for cloud have shifted at customers, and how the rest of the industry compares to AWS.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. CloudHealth is winning awards and growing, but for people that don’t know about you, give us some background on yourself and the company?
  • Topic 2 - The AWS re:Invent show was a couple weeks ago. What’s the vibe of that marketplace? Compare it to the vibe you’re seeing from other cloud marketplaces?
  • Topic 3 - CloudHealth does a lot of interesting things in term of managing cloud resources - performance, cost management, multi-cloud. What are some of the biggest cloud-usage drivers you’re seeing today - who is the buyer, what are the types of applications, etc.?
  • Topic 4 - We’re many years into “cloud”, but it’s still not a completely mainstream thing for many companies. What lessons are people still learning and are those lessons now starting to get embedded into software/services?
  • Topic 5 - How has spending on the cloud evolved over the last couple of years?
  • Topic 6 - How do companies view IT vs. Shadow IT these days? Is it still a problem, or is Shadow IT being embraced more by the business because things are getting done faster?
Dec 20, 2016
The Cloudcast #281 - Monoliths and Microservices
Brian talks with Anders Wallgren (@anders_wallgren, CTO of @ElectricCloud) about evolving technology and organizational culture, how to think about monolithic applications in today’s business context, the challenges of microservices, lessons learned from good CI practices, and emerging patterns to evolve existing applications.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We had Sam Fell on about a year ago (Eps. #219) at DevOps Enterprise Summit 2015, but it’s good to reconnect with the folks at Electric Cloud. Give us some of your background and focus at Electric Cloud.
  • Topic 2 - I’ve been reading several of your blogs lately about monoliths and microservices and how companies manage transitions. Let’s dig into that a little bit, especially how you frame the evolution process.
  • Topic 3 - I feel like people can talk about DevOps and transformation and lots of other stuff, but if companies can’t do Continuous Integration (CI) well, then a lot of this stuff won’t ever happen. From a technology standpoint, is that the place for companies to start?
  • Topic 4 - We hear many people talk about using the Strangler Pattern for breaking up monoliths, or re-architecting them. Are there other well-known ways to manage these transitions?
  • Topic 5 - Obviously moving to microservices, or just building microservices makes your company a $Billion dollar unicorn, but what are some of the downsides? Not every company does very well as managing high levels of change and distributed-ness.
  • Topic 6 - Can you give us a few examples of companies that have successfully managed a monolith to microservices migration?
Dec 13, 2016
The Cloudcast #280 - DevOps from the Enterprise
Brian talks with Josh Atwell (@Josh_Atwell, Cloudcast's Chief DevOps Correspondent) about the DevOps Enterprise Summit (#DOES16), DevOps success stories, how companies manage the evolution, common DevOps failures and any models that can be reused by other companies.

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  • Topic 1 - Let’s talk about your experiences at DOES in UK vs. DOES in US.
  • Topic 2 - What stories of successful DevOps implementations did you hear about, and were there any commonalities in those stories?
  • Topic 3 - Are you seeing the successful companies focus more on people/process or cultural changes or automation/CI/CD or on application transformation as part of their DevOps journey?
  • Topic 4 - Have any models emerged that are showing companies how to move DevOps from greenfield environments or POCs or Centers of Excellence (COEs) to wider-scale adoption?
  • Topic 5 - How are people managing the distributed nature of “two pizza teams” and the overhead of keeping projects in sync?
  • Topic 6 - What are the common pitfalls or mistakes that companies need to avoid if they are moving down the path towards DevOps?
Nov 29, 2016
The Cloudcast #278 - Automatic DevOps for the People
Brian talks with John Troyer (@jtroyer, CEO at @TechReckoning, a community for IT pros) about IT organizations are dealing with DevOps, the pace of change, open source software and communities

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  • Topic 1 - Catch us up - what’s going on in the world of Tech Reckoning?
  • Topic 2 - You and I have been having this on-going conversations about DevOps and trying to figure out how it relates to your “former” community at VMware, and the broader world of IT. (e.g. - need for infrastructure and IT infra skills)
  • Topic 3 - Now a days you are more engaged around open source communities. What are you seeing in terms of users vs. vendors vs. customers vs. a general understanding of these dynamics by the overall marketplace?
  • Topic 4 - You and I were both at KubeCon last week. What were your thoughts on that “community” and the overall set of communities around containers?
  • Topic 5 - Communities have evolved somewhat since you were at VMware. Things like Slack, GitHub, StackOverflow, the rise of Meetups, etc. are very different. What do you see that’s valuable and where do you see issues and complexities?
Nov 18, 2016
The Cloudcast #279 - Understanding Kubernetes Operators
Brian talks with Brandon Phillips (@brandonphilips, CTO at @CoreOS) about “Operators” and the evolving capabilities to help companies operate Kubernetes and manage the application around Kubernetes.

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  • Topic 1 - Before we dig into some of the new stuff, I’d like to get your perspective on this past week at KubeCon and the state of the Kubernetes community as a whole.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s talk about this new concept you introduced, called “Operators”. What problem does it intend to solve and how can it help either Developers or Operations teams?
  • Topic 3 - Kubernetes has been adding these more sophisticated concepts that are more application-pattern aware (e.g. ReplicaSets, DaemonSets, StatefulSets, etc.). In reading through the FAQs on your website, it says that Operators can be complementary to things like StatefulSets. Can you give us the basics of what Operators does that the other capabilities don’t?
  • Topic 4 - Is there any reason Operators couldn’t also be used to manage the core Kubernetes elements (e.g. Controllers, etc.), similar to something like Cloud Foundry BOSH? Or is it mostly focused on application-level capabilities?
  • Topic 5 - One of the concerns I heard from several people at KubeCon was around things like backups - both for applications and the overall environment. Can Operators play a role here?
  • Topic 6 - Since each Operator is going to get built for a specific application, it seems like there is an opportunity for reuse by people in the community with similar applications. Does the CNCF (or CoreOS) plan to maintain a centralized repository of Operators, similar to what Chef/Puppet/Ansible have done in the past with their recipes, cookbooks, playbooks, etc?
Nov 18, 2016
The Cloudcast #277 - DevOps Perspectives from the Front Lines
Brian and Josh Atwell (@Josh_Atwell) talk with Chris Short (@ChrisShort, DevOps @SolarWinds) about the day-to-day role of a DevOps Engineer, how he chooses his tools and communications models, what he learned from the military that’s applicable to DevOps and how he uses his development skills to augment operations.

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  • Topic 1 - Tell us about yourself and give us some of your background.
  • Topic 2 - So you’re a day-to-day, do it for real DevOps engineer. What does that mean these days?
  • Topic 3 - You recently gave a talk at DevOps Days Detroit about “What the Military Taught Me About DevOps”. Tell us about your talk. What can we learn from the military vs. civilian companies (both good and bad)?
  • Topic 4 - What are you seeing as the differences between the DevOpsDays events and what you’re doing on a day-to-day basis?
  • Topic 5 - Does DevOps only work for companies that have cloud-native applications, or is it applicable to any applications or levels of technical debt?
Oct 31, 2016
The Cloudcast #276 - 3D Printing & Maker Movement
Brian and Josh Atwell (@josh_atwell) talk with Harris Kenny (@harriskenny, VP Marketing @ Aleph Objects) about Lulzbot, the state of 3D printing, market segments, experimentation, innovation, new materials usage and how the Maker-Movement is impacting various aspects of the economy.

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  • Topic 1 - Background and what is Lulzbot?
  • Topic 2 - I understand open source software, but what is open source hardware?
  • Topic 3 - Help us understand the scale of 3D printing - when is it desktop vs. “industrial”, and what types of projects fit in either category?
  • Topic 4 - Help us understand the economics of 3D printing? What is it better than today and when does it become better than for other things in the future?
  • Topic 5 - There is this thing called “Maker Movement” and “Maker Faire”. What are these events and how does this align to open source communities?
  • Topic 6 - Big Question - We’re at the end of election season, which means people are talking about jobs. The US has lost a lot of manufacturing jobs over the last couple decades. Is 3D printing something that could help reverse this trend, since it involves more technology?
Oct 30, 2016
The Cloudcast #275 - Microsoft, Millennials & Open Source
Brian talks with Heather Shapiro (@microheather, Technical Evangelist @Microsoft) about Microsoft's approach to Big Data, how visualization helps people grasp analytics concepts, helping students learn the basics of big data, and the millennial perspective on the tech industry today.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background and your talk today.
  • Topic 2 - Microsoft big data was Excel and visualization was Powerpoint. So what are you focused on today and what interesting things are you seeing people work on?
  • Topic 3 - What is a “Microsoft Developer” these days? What languages and frameworks are they focused on, or what tools and platforms?
  • Topic 4 - You’re a fairly recent grad, or “millennial”. What’s your outlook on the tech industry these days, and what areas of focus are interesting to you and your friends?
  • Topic 5 - What are the things that surprise you the most (or are most disappointing) about how us old people act in technology?
Oct 29, 2016
The Cloudcast #273 - Open Data for Business
Brian talks with Melissa Nysewander (@mnysewan - Fidelity, Director of Data Science) about the state of data-science, how companies are using open and proprietary data, how to explain the value of data science within your organization, and how companies are recruiting data science talent.

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  • Topic 1 - Let’s talk about your talk, “Open Data for Business”. What are some of the highlights?
  • Topic 2 - You talk says that you, “Advocate for data-driven decision making and the application of scientific methods to solve business problems”. What is the business conversation around big data?
  • Topic 3 - For the non-analytics person, where are we with big data these days?
  • Topic 4 - You also have a background in teaching and research. “Data” is now part of every aspect of our lives, so what path might kids in school take today to be prepared for this world?
  • Topic 5 - If you don’t have access to university research, what are the best places to learn or engage with communities??
Oct 28, 2016
The Cloudcast #274 - Stranger Things with Netflix Containers & OSS
Brian talks with Andrew Spyker (@aspyker, Manager, Netflix Container Cloud) about his work on Netflix OSS, the evolution of Netflix’s Container Cloud, the Netflix culture and what other companies might be able to learn from their experiences.

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  • Topic 1 - Great to finally have you on the show, we’ve been trying to get you on for several years. What are you working on these days?
  • Topic 2 - What is Netflix OSS these days? Is it a hiring movement, or a “maybe move off AWS movement”, or is it getting non-Netflix adoption?
  • Topic 3 - You used to work at IBM. What have you learned at Netflix (culture, process, etc.) that could be applied to non-Netflix companies?
  • Topic 4 - We’ve see some of the Netflix OSS tools getting embedded into the Container and PaaS platforms (e.g. circuit breaker, chaos monkey, etc.)
  • Topic 5 - You’re also working on containers platforms at Netflix. Containers are a big deal for many companies these days. What has Netflix learned that could be valuable to other companies?
Oct 28, 2016
The Cloudcast #272 - The Kubernetes State of the Community
Brian talks with Joseph Jacks (@asynchio; Founder @KubeCon; Kubernetes engineering @Apprenda) about the upcoming KubeCon conference, the evolution of the Kubernetes community, why customers are putting the technology into production, areas of improvement and where SIs and ISVs are looking to expand the technology for various markets.

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  • Topic 1 - It’s Year 2 of KubeCon. Momentum in the Kubernetes community has been growing really quickly. Give us the update on the event. Who are some of the companies that will be speaking about their experiences with Kubernetes?
  • Topic 2 - We first met about a year and a half ago, before Kismatic (your previous company) went public. Back then it was lots of Kubernetes POCs, but now it seems like more and more Kubernetes in production. How are you seeing the market evolve and what’s driving it?
  • Topic 3 - Companies have a lot of choices about how to manage containers these days - Kubernetes, Swarm, Mesos, DIY approaches, etc. What are you hearing about why companies are choosing Kubernetes?
  • Topic 4 - No architecture is without faults or issues. What challenges do you still see for Kubernetes adopters, or the top priorities for the Kubernetes community?
  • Topic 5 - Where are you seeing opportunities to interact with the Kubernetes community (for ISVs, Cloud Providers, Emerging Technology areas, etc.)?
Oct 24, 2016
The Cloudcast #271 - VMware and the Book Store
Aaron and Brian talk with Greg Knieriemen (@knieriemen, @SpeakingInTech podcast) and Keith Townsend (@CTOAdvisor, CTOAdvisor podcast) about today’s announcement of VMware vCloud on AWS.

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  • Topic 1 - What happened today? What are the basics that we know about this announcement?
  • Topic 1a - Why didn’t this happen 2, 3 or 4 years ago?
  • Topic 2 - Why do you think each of these companies agreed to this deal/arrangement?
  • Topic 3 - What does this say about VMware? About the Dell/EMC relationship with VMware? About the vCloud Network of SPs? About Dell and Azure?
  • Topic 4 - What does this say about AWS?
  • Topic 5 - Who are the potential winners and potential losers, and where do the ripples in the industry go from here (or do they)?
Oct 14, 2016
The Cloudcast #270 - Are Container Standards Forking?
Brian talks about why there are rumors and discussions in the industry about “forking” docker and other potentially emerging container standards.

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[NOTE: Towards the end of the show, I got one element incorrect. I mixed-up the OCI and CNCF. OCI is focused on container standards, and Kubernetes and Prometheus are governed under CNCF. The mistake does not materially impact the area of discussion around Topic 4a. Apologies for the mistake.]
  • Topic 1 - Are there standards for containers today?
  • Topic 2 - What is a “fork”, and why would there be talk of a fork for docker containers? What does it mean to “carry patches”?
  • Topic 3 - Why are all of these discussions happening now? What has changed in the container ecosystem?
  • Topic 3a - Where do the container orchestrators (Kubernetes, Mesos, Swarm, Nomad, etc.) fit into all these discussions?
  • Topic 3b - Should customers/companies care about all this standards-body or vendor hand-waving?
  • Topic 4 - What’s the difference between OCI (Open Container Initiative) and Docker?
  • Topic 4a - What are OCID and CRI-O?
  • Topic 5 - What does all of this mean going forward?
Oct 07, 2016
The Cloudcast #269 - Putting Docker in Your Brain
Brian talks with Nigel Poulton (@nigelpoulton, International Man of Tech Knowledge) about the evolution from VMware to Docker communities, teaching ops/sysadmins about Docker, how to keep up with the faster pace of change and where he sees the Docker/docker ecosystem evolving.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us who this guy is that keeps popping up in various Docker-related sources of information.
  • Topic 2 - How does a Storage and Virtualization guy get into Docker and containers? We thought Docker was for developers.
  • Topic 3 - Between the book and the training videos, what has been the feedback from people, especially VMware admins (or any I/O Admins) about how they are learning Docker?
  • Topic 3a - How are Ops Admins able to keep up with the pace of change with Docker, especially since they are used to 1yr+ update cycles from VMware, etc.?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s talk about the Docker portfolio and the docker ecosystem. How do you see those two things evolving?
  • Topic 5 - Are you hearing much about Windows and containers?
  • Topic 6 - How do you see the next couple years of this ecosystem, as well as the virtualization ecosystems playing out?
Sep 23, 2016
The Cloudcast #268 - Multi-Cloud Serverless Platform
Aaron and Brian talk with Chad Arimura (@chadarimura, Founder/CEO of about the history of Serverless/Event-Driven/FaaS/Jeff computing, the differences in frameworks in the market, common customer use-cases and the need for multi-cloud platforms.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us some of the background on and how we’ve gotten from the start to where this serverless movement is going these days.
  • Topic 2 - As the serverless movement has started to gain momentum, we’ve been seeing mentioned in more and more partnership announcements with platform companies (Docker, Red Hat OpenShift, Cloud Foundry, etc.). Gives us the basics of the technologies - How does it augment these platforms?
  • Topic 3 - There seem to be lots of events-driven platforms / frameworks emerging. What are the core elements that developers and operators should be considering?
  • Topic 4 - has been doing this for quite a while. What are some of the application and design patterns that customers use the platform to accomplish?
  • Topic 5 - What are some of the business challenges that are solved with these events-driven architectures? How do you have a business-level conversation around “serverless”?
  • Topic 6 - Where are the open source elements of and which parts are commercial?
Sep 16, 2016
The Cloudcast #267 - Microservices Memoirs
Brian talks with Lachlan Evenson (@LachlanEvenson, Sr. Solutions Architect @Deis) about their journey from a v1 to v2 hybrid cloud, how they created internal “ambassadors” for the cloud, how they better understood developer needs and started the adoption of containers, and how they thought about monoliths, microservices and the use of Kubernetes in their new v2 platform.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us some of your background in building cloud environments.
  • Topic 2 - Prior to this microservices journey, you had already gone through building a v1 cloud, that was very IaaS focused. Talk about the goals of that cloud, as well as the feedback you got from the “customers”, which were internal developers.
  • Topic 3 - Eventually you built a v2 cloud. What was the focus of that effort?
  • Topic 4 - [Culture] “Don’t break up the monoliths”. “Have ambassadors”. “Stay in the success zone”.
  • Topic 5 - [Containers] Talk about how you got developers to embrace containers.
  • Topic 5a - [Opinionated Platform] Many people talk about having an opinionated platform, but they focus on the side that runs the applications (e.g. container orchestration). You focused on being opinionated on the developer pipeline. Tell us why that was so important.
  • Topic 6 - [Consistency of Applications] What are some of the basic things you had to think about with microservices as you had to deal with things like network latency, tracing/logging, etc.?
  • Topic 7 - [Kubernetes] You've been involve in the Kubernetes community since the v1 announcement. Where do you see the community today?
Sep 09, 2016
The Cloudcast #266 - Impressions from VMworld 2016
Brian talks with Keith Townsend (@CTOAdvisor) about the announcements from VMworld 2016 as well their strategy, customer and technologist feedback, and where this large community is moving forward. They also look at some of the changes and challenges facing legacy vendors vs. cloud vendors.

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  • Topic 1 - Let’s talk about the overall vibe at VMworld 2016. Technologists viewpoint, customers viewpoints, etc.
  • Topic 2 - Were you surprised at how much VMware acknowledged the large public cloud providers (AWS, Azure, Google, IBM) after downplaying them or FUD’ing them for so many years?
  • Topic 3 - Regardless of the re-naming (Cloud Foundation, Cross-Cloud), VMware is still pushing the SDDC. Lots of vendors now have a complete stack story (Cisco, Oracle, Red Hat, Microsoft, VMware, etc.). Do you see the complete story resonating, or is it still pieces and parts depending on buying areas (Apps vs. Infrastructure)?
  • Topic 4 - What is your take on their “Cloud Native” story, between VMware Integrated Containers and Photon Platform?
  • Topic 5 - Michael Dell said that the Dell strategy (going forward) is very focused on Private Cloud, and also included VMware’s revenues streams / cash flows as part of the math to make that huge merger work. So is that VMware’s future - primarily a company selling into private data centers?
  • Topic 6 - The NSX / Cross-Cloud SaaS-delivered services seem to be one of the core innovation areas. Walk me through your thoughts on that, especially the delivery model.
Sep 04, 2016
The Cloudcast #265 - Designing and Deploying Containers at Scale
Brian talks with Jeremy Eder (@jeremyeder; Performance Engineering at @RedHatNews) about the CNCF’s 1000 node cluster, designing large scale cloud-native environments, how testing has evolved with containers and sharable lessons from this build-out.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us a little bit of your background, and some background on how you got involved with the CNCF Cluster testing.
  • Topic 2 - There are tons of details about your project in the blog post (see show notes), but let’s talk about some of the core things you were able to demonstrate with this testing (OpenStack, OpenShift, OOB Management, Application Deployments, etc.)
  • Topic 3 - Creating a POC and architecting a large-scale environment are very different tasks. Let’s discuss some of the major design considerations you needed to work out.
  • Topic 4 - During the build, where were the major time savers or areas where automation was the only way to accomplish your goals?
  • Topic 5 - Tell us about the applications that were running on the cluster? How did you decide what to test? How do you monitor the environment once it was up and running?
  • Topic 5 - What lessons can you pass along to anyone looking to architect or test a larger-scale environment? Any scars and scabs that people can avoid?
Aug 26, 2016
The Cloudcast #264 - The Evolution of Digital Ocean
Brian talks with Mitch Wainer (@mitchwainer; Co-Founder of DigitalOcean) and Nick Van Wiggeren (@NickVanWig; Storage Engineering Manager at DigitalOcean) about the overall cloud market, being focused on developers, how to think about geographic coverage and how many features that customers actually ask for.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us a little bit of your background, and give us a little bit of the story of DigitalOcean - it’s this success story that not that many people know about.
  • Topic 2 - “the cloud” is a funny thing in that it can be focus on IT replacement, shadow IT, developers, platforms, etc. - but DigitalOcean has always been focused on developers. What does that really mean?
  • Topic 3 - A lot of cloud providers are chasing really long lists of “features” or “services”, but the DigitalOcean list is much shorter. Does that tell us more about developers preferring simplicity over features, or does it give us a sense of how ready developers are to use embedded services vs. the DIY mentality?
  • Topic 4 - Recently you announced a block storage offering. Give us some insight into the service/technology, and background on why it’s being announced now - it would seem like compute + storage was needed on Day 1.
  • Topic 5 - The Big 3 (AWS, Azure, Google) tend to get the bulk of the media headlines for cloud. Tell us something about your customer base that would surprise us about how developers use DigitalOcean instead of those bigger offerings
  • Topic 5 - DigitalOcean is a Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) backed company. I know that a number of our listeners read their blogs and listen to their podcasts. What do they bring to DigitalOcean as a VC?
Aug 19, 2016
The Cloudcast #263 - Monitoring Containers with Prometheus
Brian talks with Julius Volz (@juliusvolz; Co-Creator of Prometheus) about Project Prometheus, the challenges of monitoring containers, working within the CNCF and where the project will expand.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Our first guest from Germany. Give us a little bit of your background and how you got involved in creating Prometheus.
  • Topic 2 - Let’s talk about the basics of Prometheus. What are the core elements and what problems did you intend for it to solve? [From Prometheus homepage: “Prometheus is an open-source systems monitoring and alerting toolkit originally built at SoundCloud.”]
  • Topic 3 - Prometheus is part of the CNCF, which is also where Kubernetes resides, but it can work with lots of different frameworks. Is there a size of deployment where you’ve found that Prometheus starts to make sense?

  • Topic 5 - We’ve traditionally seen (larger) projects come out of a vendor (e.g. Google), into an open source community. Prometheus came out of SoundCloud, which is more of an end-user. How are the projects different in terms of getting community involvement and adoption?
  • Topic 6 - It’s still early in the project’s life, but have you heard of any Cloud projects that want to offer Prometheus-as-a-Service?
Aug 11, 2016
The Cloudcast #262 - Understanding Dropbox's Infrastructure Transition
Aaron and Brian talk with James Cowling (@jamesacowling; Storage Team Lead @Dropbox) about the Dropbox migration from AWS, project “Magic Pocket”, building distributed systems, lessons learned and how much better something must be before making a massive change.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’re a little bit Internet-famous due to the Wired Magazine article this year, but give us your background and how you got involved with Dropbox.
  • Topic 2 - There were obviously business reasons why Dropbox did this, but walk us through your thinking about the challenges of designing “Magic Pocket” (codename of the project).
  • Topic 3 - What does the application and operations team of a large distributed application (or platform) look like? What are the roles? What are the primary concerns and focus areas?
  • Topic 4 - What did you get right on Magic Pocket and what surprised you as it went into production? What lessons could other people learn from your experience?
  • Topic 5 - Are you able to share any “today” measurements about where Dropbox is today vs. 2012? People are obviously interested in big migrations and if it was worth all the time/cost/effort.
  • Topic 6 - What lessons could people learn from this huge migration effort? What was the thought process between business decisions and technical decisions….and how did the process work over the timeframe?
Aug 02, 2016
The Cloudcast #261 - Docker Image Compatibility
Brian talks with (@kelseyhightower; Kubernetes Lead @GoogleCloud) about confusion in the marketplace around Docker “compatibility”.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. For anyone that doesn’t know you, tell us about your current role with Google
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  • Topic 4 - Help explain some of this in laymen’s terms for us - isn’t the Docker code open source? Are we getting close to a point where people will have to fork this if they want to use other schedulers?
  • Topic 5 - Shifting gears a little bit - Kubernetes for beginners - where to start?
Jul 29, 2016
The Cloudcast #260 - Securing Container Workloads
Aaron and Brian talk with Randy Kilmon (VP of Engineering at @black_duck_sw) about the open source vulnerabilities, securing containers and managing the lifecycle of rapidly changing software.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background and your areas of focus at Black Duck Software.
  • Topic 2 - For anyone that’s not familiar with Black Duck, what role does Black Duck play in looking at open source licensing vs. actively helping with security and vulnerabilities?
  • Topic 3 - One of your areas of focus is containers and container security. Obviously containers is top of mind for lots of people. What’s the reality of container security and what are the areas where people should focus their attention?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s talk about “pre-container” (developers) security vs. “post-container” security (operations). What are the “gates” applications should be going through, and where are people making mistakes today?
  • Topic 5 - Can we talk about managing security in the container vs. security in the host?
  • Topic 6 - We have a number of listeners that are going down a journey with containers, either directly (e.g. Docker) or via PaaS platforms (e.g. Cloud Foundry, OpenShift, etc.). What’s your guidance to them?
Jul 20, 2016
The Cloudcast #259 - Multi-Instance vs. Multi-Tenancy in SaaS
Brian talks with Allan Leinwand (@leinwand, Chief Technology Officer @ServiceNow) about the key characteristics of an “Enterprise Cloud”, why architecture is important for SaaS applications and how customers can achieve high availability in the cloud.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background (lots of interesting companies and roles) and what you’re focused on at ServiceNow today.  [Maybe talk a little about what excites you about Enterprise apps vs. Consumer apps (e.g. Zynga)
  • Topic 2 - Technologists (mostly IT Ops) tend to be drawn to IaaS services because it looks like their current data center and there are lots of moving parts. SaaS (and to some extent PaaS) gets less attention because SaaS is supposed to hide complexity. What are the basics that many companies miss or don’t understand?
  • Topic 3 - You recently wrote a blog about Enterprise Cloud and Multi-Instance vs. Multi-Tenancy. Don’t things like VMs or Containers provide enough abstraction on compute resources?
  • Topic 4 - What are the realities of Security in a Multi-Instance vs. Multi-Tenancy environment, especially as it relates to audit and compliance and potential hacking?
  • Topic 5 - ServiceNow lives at the intersection of ITIL and DevOps - essentially the transition that many companies are trying to make with their applications and operations. How much of these transitions are the tools/platforms vs. people vs. architectures?
  • Topic 6 - What is your guidance to IT teams and developers as they start using the cloud more, or integrating new applications into their business?
Jul 14, 2016
The Cloudcast #258 - Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF)
Brian talks with Dan Kohn (@dankohn1, Executive Director of the Cloud Native Computing Foundation) about the role of foundations, the CNCF, the emergence of containers, co-opetition in the marketplace and how web scale technologies are getting used by Enterprise companies.

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  • Topic 1 - You were recently named Executive Director of the CNCF. You have background with the Linux Foundation and strong entrepreneurial experience. Tell us about yourself.
  • Topic 2 - CNCF got started with Kubernetes, but “Cloud Native Computing” is a very broad domain. What’s the charter of CNCF and how should we think about it in relation to the many other foundations that exist today (Cloud Foundry, OpenStack, Open Networking, etc.)
  • Topic 3 - Foundations are tricky because of the balance between technology advances and competitive markets. How do you view your role in helping to structure that balance?
  • Topic 4 - This past week at DockerCon, Docker announced some changes to their technology which will potentially have an impact on Kubernetes and customer choice. Obviously CNCF can’t influence a specific vendor’s approach to the market, but how does leader of a foundation react when the potential market dynamics change?
  • Topic 5 - How often do you expect to get out and talk to end-customers and how does their feedback get incorporated into foundation activities?
Jun 25, 2016
The Cloudcast #257 - Surviving in a Software-Eating World
Brian talks with Matt Colyer (@mcolyer; Product Manager at @github | Founder of Flagr and Easel) about the evolution of “software is eating the world” - how application development is evolving; how companies are changing the organizations and process; how IT organizations are dealing with open source software and how SaaS applications like GitHub have to evolve.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Let’s talk about your background, not only at Github, but also as a developer and entrepreneur prior to Github.
  • Topic 2 - We all know the famous “software is eating the world” quote from Marc Andreessen, but this means that more companies must be building their own software. Let talk about what Github sees from that perspective - establishing software development as a core business competency. (“insourcing”)
  • Topic 3 - It’s been interesting to watch more companies, not just vendors, actively participate in open source communities - not just using the software, but actively contributing to existing projects and starting their own projects.
  • Topic 4 - The public cloud has awesome services available, but not every company feels like they can use the public cloud, so we’re seeing more “on-premises” offerings from public cloud companies. Can you talk about the benefits and challenges of these offerings?
  • Topic 5 - What’s a trend that you’re seeing from smaller companies that you don’t think enough larger business follow today, but could be easily adopted to make them better at software development or just more agile as a business?
Jun 22, 2016
The Cloudcast #256 - Can Open Source Companies Make Money?
Brian talks with Adrian Cockcroft (@adrianco, Technology Fellow at @BatteryVentures) about the recent Battery Ventures Open Source Summit (#BVOSS), trends in open source business models and how VC are thinking about investing in companies that leverage open source software.

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  • Topic 1 - It’s been awhile since you were on last. What are you focus areas these days?
  • Topic 2 - Related to OSS-centric companies, Aaron and I discuss the “will they make any money” question all the time. BV had an event focused on this recently. What was the event?
  • Topic 3 - There seemed to be a theme that OSS projects need to be delivered as-a-service. I saw a tweet that said, “Uber theme at #bvoss today: we need an OSS license that prevents AWS to make money off of our OSS code.”
  • Topic 4 - There were several large end-customers (e.g. - banks) in attendance, talking about their OSS projects. Are they making any significant contributions to these projects, or is this mostly an effort to help them hire developers?
  • Topic 5 - So what were the major takeaways from the conference?
Jun 16, 2016
The Cloudcast #255 - Serverless, NoOps and Jeff
Aaron and Brian talk about the 2016 Mid-Year State of the Cloudcast (and Cloud), what they expect to see in the 2nd half of 2016, why they are interested in the Serverless movement, and why there will be a new serverless-focused podcast soon.

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  • Topic 1 - State of the Cloud - Mid-2016: the dangers of public cloud revenue (lack of) transparency, money still pouring into Cloud-native platforms (too many choices?), the legacy vendors are churning, if crazy valuations crash (Uber, etc.) lead to people eventually falling off the cloud-native bandwagon?
  • Topic 2 - The 2nd-half of 2016 - Expectations:
  • Topic 3 - Why are we curious about Serverless?
  • Topic 4 - What do we know about Serverless? - Go read Sam’s article. He uses the term unit of scale but I also think using the term demarcation point also works. Data Center = server, IaaS = OS, PaaS = Application, Serverless = Application Function - You can not overprovision or underprovision Lambda, it is just there like S3 and is called as needed and autoscales for you.
  • Topic 5 - The JeffCast? Discussing our plans around a Serverless podcast - Serverless + IoT (the next 5-10 years), partnering with others, trying to consolidate some great content
Jun 08, 2016
The Cloudcast #254 - Container Deployments - Real Usage, Real Data
Brian talks with Kim Weins (@kimweins, VP of Marketing) and Tim MIller (@Miller_Tim, VP of Engineering) at @Rightscale about market adoption of DevOps and Containers, migrating applications to containers, and the challenges of a container-centric deployment to production.

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Topic 1 - Give us a sense of the scope and scale of the Rightscale platform and how involved it is in companies and applications that are leveraging the fast growing public cloud.
Topic 1a - What were the biggest takeaways that you observed in the data from the 2016 Cloud / DevOps report?
Topic 2 - Why did Rightscale take on “Project Sherpa” in the first place?
Topic 3 - What were the initial big hurdles, red flags or things that told you that maybe this wasn’t a good idea? How did you overcome those challenges?
Topic 4 - What were some of the lessons you learned through the transition? Did you take a bimodal approach, or was this an “everybody” transition, or was there another people/culture/process approach?
Topic 5 - On the dev-side, containers are getting much better understood. How did you manage the ops portion?

May 27, 2016
The Cloudcast #253 - Jumping Inside Complex CI/CD Systems
Brian talks with Shlomi Ben Haim (@ShlomiBenHaim; CEO of @JFrog) about social software distribution platforms, the challenges of CI/CD systems, how non-tech-centric companies are embracing software cultures and if there are emerging ways to make new software development easier.

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your journey with JFrog over the last 7 or 8 years.
Topic 1a - For anybody that isn’t familiar with all the things that JFrog brings to market, can you give us the high level overview?
Topic 2 - There’s lots of talk these days about cloud-native apps and microservices and software eating the world. But I feel like there isn’t enough discussion about getting all that software into production, which is the most important part. How well do companies understand that challenge and what tools are available to help them get better at testing and deploying?
Topic 3 - Everybody wants to highlight that software delivery can go faster, but it’s a complicated system with lots of inputs and outputs. Let’s talk a little bit about the key areas where companies need controls in that delivery system - either for managing lots of inputs, or managing security, or making sure that updates don’t break too many things in production.
Topic 4 - There are lots of Silicon Valley customers that discuss and use DevOps because their core business is technology. Can you give us some insights into how this evolution to “every business is a software business” outside of technology-centric companies?
Topic 5 - Building software is difficult. Are you seeing any trends that show you that there are new ways to make it easiest and more accessible to more companies?

May 24, 2016
The Cloudcast #252 - Understanding IBM OpenWhisk
Brian talks with Stephen Fink (@sjfink, Distinguished Research Staff Member @IBM) about serverless computing, the architecture of IBM OpenWhisk, the open source community involvement and the use-cases he sees for this emerging technology.

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Give us some of your background in IBM’s Research group.
Topic 2 - “Events-based” and “Serverless” are terms that are starting to become more widely used. What types of challenges (use-cases) did you hear from developers that led you to create OpenWhisk?
Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the OpenWhisk architecture. The OpenWhisk model consists of three concepts:
  • trigger: a class of events that can happen

  • action: an event handler — some code that runs in response to an event
  •  rule: an association between a trigger and an action

Topic 3a - What are some of the really important things that people need to know about OpenWhisk? How it is different from other serverless frameworks that are starting to come into the market?
Topic 4 - Let’s walk through some of the early use-cases you’ve seen (or built).
Topic 5 - OpenWhisk has gotten some attention because it’s open-source. It’s still early, but where do you expect to see the most contribution - core OpenWhisk or at the edges around things that are specific to application factors?

May 19, 2016
The Cloudcast #251 - IT Tricks that SaaS services Forget
Brian talks with Gina Minks (@gminks, PMM for @SpanningBackup) about the growth of SaaS applications, who pays for SaaS, who manages SaaS and the most frequent mistakes companies make in using SaaS applications.

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  • Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show, it’s been since Eps.68. What are you up to these days?
    • Topic 2 - Let’s talk about the SaaS market in general. It’s about a $75-80B market in 2016, growing at 20% CAGR. What big trends are you seeing in SaaS?
    • Topic 3 - We’ve both been around “traditional IT” for a while. What do you see that’s different about SaaS - who buys it, what’s the process, how do they think about on-going maintenance, etc.?
    • Topic 4 - Let’s get into your world - backing up SaaS applications. Give us the basics. What are the big mistakes most people make? Where does the backed up data go?
    • Topic 5 - The challenge with SaaS is that some applications go away, or they radically change their pricing model. Are there now utilities that will convert data to use other SaaS services?
    May 12, 2016
    The Cloudcast #250 - A Platform View of Application Migrations
    Aaron talks with Sinclair Schuller (@sschuller; CEO/Founder of @Apprenda) about news at Apprenda, the Kubernetes community, legacy apps vs. cloud native apps and why architecture is critical in a PaaS platform.

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    • Topic 1 - How are things going at Apprenda? It’s been way too long...l
    • Topic 2 - What is the state of “Platforms” these days? Are they structured vs. unstructured, Docker-capable vs. Non-Docker, or some other dominant architectural characteristics?
    • Topic 3 - Do platforms actually help companies build applications “faster”, or are they mostly there to automate the infrastructure and services under a platform?
    • Topic 4 - We read a whitepaper talking about how Apprenda helped a customer migrate 70+ applications to the platform in a really short period of time. What do these migrations look like?
    • Topic 5 - Apprenda recently added Kubernetes. What are the details around that and what value does it bring to customers?
    Apr 29, 2016
    The Cloudcast #249 - snap by Intel and Cloud Telemetry
    We're giving away two OSCON passes! Aaron talks with Matt Brender (@mjbrender, Developer Advocate for Intel Software Defined Infrastructure) about what it is like to be a Developer Advocate and snap by Intel for cloud telemetry.

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    • Topic 1 - Let’s start at the start, you have had an interesting journey to date in your move into your current role. Give everyone a brief intro to your journey and how you ended up at Intel
    • Topic 2 - We’ve had both Jonathan and Nick on a few times now so we won’t rehash the Intel SDI group, but I did want to talk about Nick’s blog post introducing snap by Intel. Specifically this concept of automating around stages of IRO (Intelligent Resource Orchestration) and the phases - Watching, Deciding, Acting, Learning. Is Intel creating SkyNet?
    • Topic 3 - Let’s dig into the snap framework announced in December. This brings to life the stages we previously mentioned through framework plugins for Collecting, Processing, and Publishing
    • Topic 4 - What will be the early use cases? When and where does Intel envision folks using this framework and for what purpose?
    • Topic 5 - How has the community embraced this so far? What challenges do you have as a Developer Advocate? What’s next for both snap and SDI in general?
    Apr 25, 2016
    The Cloudcast #248 - Trouble Inside Your Containers
    Aaron and Brian talk with Tim Gerla (@tybstar, VP Product) and Dan Nurmi (@dannurmi, CTO) at @Anchore about their background as entrepreneurs, the challenges of container security, the challenges of CI/CD and security and how to avoid slowly down developers.

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    Topic 1 - Get an understanding of the team and their background

    Topic 2 - What customer challenge is Anchore attempting to solve? What are some of the scary security/container stories out there?

    Topic 2a - Let’s talk about awareness of this security challenge, especially amongst Dev teams vs. Ops teams.

    Topic 3 - Anchore was founded by people from Eucalyptus and Ansible, which were very popular open-source projects. Does Anchore have an open-source model as well?

    Topic 4 - How does Anchore fit into existing "container" systems and PaaS like Docker (or Docker Data Center), Cloud Foundry, Kubernetes, etc.? Don't some of those systems already have security elements built in?

    Topic 5 - How does Anchore fit into some of the CI/CD systems, where developers could be adding random things into containers?

    Topic 6 - Topic 6 - How does the reporting and management framework fit into other existing security systems for the CISO?

    Apr 21, 2016
    The Cloudcast #247 - How Do I Talk To An API?
    Aaron and Brian talk to Kendrick “Kenny” Coleman (@kendrickcoleman; Developer Advocate @EMCcode) about the basics of interacting with APIs. They also discuss how the millennial generation is changing the media industry and if/how The Cloudcast should change.

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    Topic 1 - What are you up to these days?

    Topic 2 - We need help. Everything is an API these days and we don’t speak API. What are the basics we need to understand and the tools we need?

    Topic 3 - Any good API tips and tricks for beginners?

    Topic 4 - You were recently at a conference that discussed how the millennial generation is changing the media industry. What is changing, what do we need to know and how do we need to change the podcast?

    Apr 16, 2016
    The Cloudcast #246 - The Quest for 1M Containers
    Aaron and Brian talk to Mitchell Hashimoto (@mitchellh, Founder of @HashiCorp) about the lack of VC funding for an open source Death Star, customer interest in Microsoft Azure, the need for bigger/faster schedulers, developer patterns and Zero-Trust Datacenter.

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    Topic 1 - It’s been a little over a year since you were last on the show. Things are changing really fast in the market. What are you seeing in the market?

    Topic 2 - Hashicorp recently made all of their tools Microsoft Azure compatible. Where are you seeing interest from your customers in Azure?

    Topic 3 - A few months ago, Docker showed that Swarm could support 30,000 containers. Cloud Foundry supposedly supports 25,000 containers. And then Nomad came out with 1M containers. Why does anyone need that many containers?

    Topic 4 - There is a lot of dogma in the market about “platforms”. Are we getting close to a big market shakeout or consolidation, or will the confusion continue for a while?

    Topic 5 - You always give us some perspective on a broader way to view application management. We don’t talk much about security on the show because we’re clueless, so give us some insight.
    Apr 14, 2016
    The Cloudcast #245 - The Chaotic State of IT in 2016
    Brian talks with Amy Lewis (@CommsNinja, Co-Host of The Geek-Whisperers) about the chaotic state of the IT industry, how much location impacts day-to-day work, and how people are making positive transitions in their work.

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    Topic 1 - Is the IT industry in a more chaotic state than it’s ever been?

    • Public Cloud vs. IT vendors

    • Open Source Software vs. IT vendors

    • People openly looking for new jobs 

    • IT customers being very confused about what to buy/use/trust

    • Are we at the end of a 20yr cycle (Vendor-VAR-Customer-TechSwimLanes)?

    Topic 2 - What’s the pulse of your community? What are the most frequently asked questions (on-the-record and off-the-record)?

    Topic 3 - Let’s talk about location. 10 years ago, teleworking was all the rage. Now, it feels like we’re back to a Silicon-Valley-centric world.

    Topic 4 - What do you feel like a lot of people are focused on, which is actually a bad thing or a false hope? What are the good things that people are focused on?

    Topic 5 - What do you feel like a lot of people are focused on, which is actually a bad thing or a false hope? What are the good things that people are focused on?
    Apr 09, 2016
    The Cloudcast #244 - Engineers, Coffee & AWS Lambda
    Aaron and Brian talk with Donnie Flood (@floodfx) and Larry Ogrodnek (@ogrodnek) about their podcast @EngineersCoffee, their experience at Bizo, and their fascination with serverless computing (or events-based computing) with “Will it Lambda?”

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    Topic 1 - Officially you are both formerly with a company called Bizo. Can you give us some of your background and the types of things you’ve built?

    Topic 2 - We found your show because of a tweet about AWS Lambda, which we’re both really fascinated about lately. Did you start your show to talk about Lambda, or was that just coincidentally the first topic?

    Topic 3 - What about Lambda is interesting to you guys?

    Topic 4 - Help us understand the basics of Lambda. There’s lots of tutorials and books online, but it would be great to talk through some example that you have dealt with. Maybe you’re “Will it Lambda?” Concept.

    Topic 5 - We’re seeing all the large cloud providers offer an events-based (serverless) offering now - Google Functions, Azure Functions, IBM OpenWhisk. Some are making them open-source. What do you see as the big areas that need additional work? Do you see this taking off of being a niche?

    Topic 6 - We’re seeing all the large cloud providers offer an events-based (serverless) offering now - Google Functions, Azure Functions, IBM has a service in BlueMix. Some are making them open-source. What do you see as the big areas that need additional work? Do you see this taking off of being a niche?

    Topic 7 - On your show, Donnie has mentioned many times his affinity to using more and more AWS services - sort of this “eliminate all the unnecessary lifting, focus on going fast” mentality. How did that come about, and do you think it’s applicable to non-startup companies?

    Topic 8 - We've talked a lot about Lambda, but what other areas are you guys really interested in these days?
    Apr 03, 2016
    The Cloudcast #243 - Understanding Azure Stack
    Aaron and Brian talk with Corey Sanders (@CoreySandersWA; Director of Program Management @Microsoft) and Ryan O’Hara (Director Private Cloud Solutions @Microsoft) about how Microsoft is attempting to bring the Azure Cloud down into customer’s data centers.

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    Topic 1 - You’ve both been at Microsoft for a good amount of time. Give us a little bit of your background and maybe some insight into how all these changes in Redmond are happening?

    Topic 2 - Give us the basics of Azure Stack and how it differs from previous Windows Server or Cloud Platform System “cloud” offerings.

    Topic 2a- Azure Stack has been in “preview” for a couple months now. What has been the customer feedback? What didn’t you expect?

    Topic 3 - We’ve done this show for 5+ years and one theme is constant - operating a cloud is very difficult. Does Azure Stack just deliver the software, or is there an operational element from the Azure Cloud included?

    Topic 4 - Linux is a thing at Microsoft now. How will Azure Stack handle both Windows and Linux workloads?

    Topic 5 - Azure Cloud has a very large set of services now. How should customers think about how much of that will make it into Azure Stack?
    Mar 18, 2016
    The Cloudcast #242 - Understanding Serverless Applications
    Aaron and Brian talk with Joe Emison (@JoeEmison; Founder and Chief Technology Officer @ BuildFax) about building a digital business, the challenges of platforms, and why he’s moving more applications to serverless computing.

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    Topic 1 - Let’s talk about your background. We like to have builders on the show, but you actually help real builders.

    Topic 2 - You’re giving a 4hr talk at Interop in May about “Building Serverless Applications”. Let’s start with the basics of Serverless - why does it exist, what problem does it fix? what is it, what does it do?

    Topic 3 - Let’s talk about some of the existing serverless “services” out there and how they work. What works, work needs to evolve, how do they work with other services?

    Topic 4 - Does software exist today to have these serverless capabilities on-premises, or is this just a public cloud capability today?

    Topic 5 - You mentioned in a Twitter thread earlier this week that there are multiple services that are “better than AWS Lambda today”. Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
    Mar 11, 2016
    The Cloudcast #241 - Technology Trends Outside Silicon Valley
    Aaron and Brian talk with Keith Townsend (@CTOAdvisor) about emerging technology trends, how Enterprises around the world differ from the Bay Area, the organizational challenges of containers, and his CIO/CTO advice for large companies.

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    Topic 1 - Let's talk about your background, community involvement, and in particular your recent move from Consultant to IT practitioner.

    Topic 2 - You stay up to date on most of the modern technologies, but also work in large Enterprise in the Midwest. How different is the Bay Area echo chamber from your view of the world?

    Topic 3 - Let's talk about containers and DevOps. How do you see that fitting into today's IT organizations? What has to change? What won't change?

    Topic 4 - We're seeing more "overlay" technologies in the market, from containers or SDN or aspects of security (we talked to Illumio on Eps.239). How do you see those working in silo'd IT environments? Who pays for them?

    Topic 5 - If you were a CIO, in an industry that's getting more competitive with a digital competitor, how would you start thinking about allocating resources, uplifting (or rehiring) skills, organizational culture, etc.?
    Mar 05, 2016
    The Cloudcast #240 - Learning How to Become an AWS Guru
    Aaron and Brian talk with Ryan Kroonenburg (@acloudguru and @KroonenburgRyan, AWS Cloud Architect) and Anthony Stanley (@IamStan, AWS Cloud Architect) from A Cloud Guru about their passion for teaching, how they created A Cloud Guru, the framework for achieving AWS certifications and some examples of learners that got a big bump in pay after completing the courses.

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    Topic 1 - Before we get into what A Cloud Guru does, let’s talk about your backgrounds. Where have you been and what made you want to start this business?

    Topic 2 - Let’s talk about A Cloud Guru. What does the site offer and what can “learners” expect from the training courses?

    Topic 3 - Ryan mentioned in the introduction video that he trained 30,000 people on AWS last year (or the last couple years) and you expect to reach 100,000 this year. That obviously means a lot of people using this platform to guide them. Tell us about the early feedback and things people want you to add?

    Topic 3a - Every new business has a plan or a set of expectations. What has been the unexpected that you’ve seen and heard from the market?

    Topic 4 - There was a recent survey from Global Knowledge that AWS Certified Solutions Architect is now the #1 Paying Certification. You mentioned that only 2000 people have that certification today, which feels a lot like the Cisco CCIE in 1997. Any ideas how much demand there is for that level of AWS certification?

    Topic 5 - Obviously you’ll see a number of individuals taking the courses, but are you starting to see corporate update as well? Can companies buy bulk licenses from A Cloud Guru?
    Feb 26, 2016
    The Cloudcast #239 - Deploying Security without Borders
    Aaron and Brian talk with Alan Cohen (@ascohen, Chief Commercial Officer @illumio) about disrupting long-held technology architectures, the challenge of deploying and operating new technologies, and how Illumio security is designed to work around multiple cloud environments.

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    Topic 1 - Give us the 101 on Illumio - Who is the team, What do you build, What's the problem space. Let's talk about your background - Airespace, Nicira, some Advisory companies - you're sort of a "Serial Disrupter".

    Topic 2 - The last few weeks we've been talking about the operation challenges of all these cool new technologies (cloud, cloud-native, . Deployment problems, networking problems. Security is right up there at the top of the list of problems. Let's talk about how Illumio Adaptive Security Platform works.

    Topic 3 - Security is a little bit like a magician's conference. Lots of cool tricks, and then competitors start trying to disprove it. As a company that's only a couple years old, what's been your biggest surprise that customers have tried to de-mystify and just haven't been able to do?

    Topic 4 - This week Illumio made an announcement that seems to take this security model from the application-level to the user-level. What does this mean in the bigger picture of corporate security?

    Topic 5 - RSA is coming up in about a week, which is sort of the Super Bowl of Security. Besides the FBI/iPhone privacy stuff, what are the big issues that people should be paying attention to, especially if they are focused on the evolving parts of their business?
    Feb 19, 2016
    The Cloudcast #238 - Challenges in Operations, Containers and Microservices
    Brian talks with Rob Hirschfeld (@zehicle, Founder/CEO of RackN) about the evolution of OpenStack, Containers, his company RackN and Digital Rebar, and how Microservices and DevOps go hand-in-hand.

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    Topic 1 - It’s been a long time since you were last on the show (Eps.16), back when you were at Dell in 2011. A lot has changed since then. What have you been up to?

    Topic 2 - You been heavily involved in OpenStack since the earliest days, serving in board roles, contributing role, working on architectures. You’ve also been critical of several areas around operations. What’s the state of OpenStack from your perspective?

    Topic 3 - Let’s talk about Digital Rebar and the challenges involved in using resources in different environments - bare metal, containers, VMs, various clouds.

    Topic 4 - You recently wrote a great article in The New Stack about how you migrated Digital Rebar to a microservices architecture. Give us the lessons learned in that migration process.

    Topic 5 - Given all the tools and frameworks and platforms available to developers and operations today, why is it so important to align application architectures (microservices) with modularity of the tools and frameworks? Can monoliths and microservices exist across DevOps
    Feb 12, 2016
    The Cloudcast #237 - Cloud Native SDN
    Brian talks with Chris Marino (@chris_marino, Founder/CEO of Pani Networks) about the his new startup, the evolution of networking for Cloud Native applications, and the opportunities to change networking as application models radically change.

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    Topic 1 - We’ve known each other for a while, but give our audience some details about your background and what you’re building with Pani.

    Topic 2 - You highlight that there are 4 types (use-cases) of SDN in the market today: Enterprise, Carrier (NFV), SD-WAN and now Cloud Native. Let’s talk briefly about each one.

    Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the basics of how the Romana Project works - addressing, tenants, IPAM, service discovery

    Topic 4 - There’s an interesting trend happening where more intelligence and awareness is getting pushed up into higher-level systems like OpenStack, Kubernetes, etc. - how does this align to an application team vs. an operations team?

    Topic 5 - How can people learn more about Pani and Romana, and start to play with the technology?
    Feb 01, 2016
    The Cloudcast #236 - Aligning App Performance to Business Success
    Brian talks with James Urquhart (@jamesurquhart, Senior Vice President of Performance Analytics @SOASTA) about the evolution of the digital economy, performance testing applications, understanding business impact of performance, and how companies are evolving in this new economy.

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    Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show, it’s been a little while. Tell us what you’re doing these days.

    Topic 2 - We now live in a (mostly) digital world, where applications are the face or experience of many businesses. Where does SOASTA fit into this new world?

    Topic 3 - Last summer, I was at VelocityConf and saw this massive display (for SOASTA) and it looked like the control center in movies for a Space Shuttle launch. Turns out it was the launch of the mPulse platform. It was very business centric, which was unique and unusual for a highly technical conference.

    Topic 4 - Lots of talk about microservices and distributed applications. Also, lots of talk about how this becomes orders of magnitude more complex. How are application teams explaining this to their businesses, and how does SOASTA help them manage this?

    Topic 5 - Mobile devices are everything these days, and they have very different usage/access patterns. From a Performance/Analysis perspective, what are some of the most important things companies need to think about?

    Topic 6 - We’re starting to see more and more traditionally “non-technical” companies that will have massive application challenges in the future (e.g. connected vehicles). What’s your advice to them beyond just “be sure you’re testing early and often”?
    Jan 14, 2016
    The Cloudcast #235 - Does Everyone Need Google's Infrastructure?
    Brian talks with Alex Polvi (@polvi, Founder/CEO of @CoreOSLinux) about how startups measure innovation, the evolution of both Tectonic solution and CoreOS projects, the evolution of Kubernetes and how many companies are building digital presences (web/mobile).

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    Topic 1 - Let's start with product updates. It's been about six months since we talked with Redbeard (Brian Harrington) about CoreOS and security at OSCON. What's new with CoreOS (Tectonic, Kubernetes 1.0, Clair, etc.)

    Topic 2 - Kubernetes get most of the attention, but let's talk about "Clair" since it aligns to CoreOS's goal of securing the Internet. What is it and how does it work?

    Topic 3 - Tectonic was announced as GA in December. How has the shift from project/product based offerings to more solution-centric offerings changed your interaction with the market?

    Topic 4 - As best I can tell, your customers seem to be digital-centric companies (Samsung, Jive Software, etc.) with customer-facing applications. Is that the ideal customer profile for where CoreOS is today?

    Topic 5 - The other day you sent a tweet that mentioned how many releases that CoreOS had done in 2015. And I've seen about 6-10 more companies send a similar tweet. First time I've seen the release metric be the end-of-year measurement at a company level. Why is that happening now?

    Topic 6 - What's the sentiment in Silicon Valley these days about startups? Interest rates moved up a little bit, many unicorns ($1B valuations) were created in 2014-2015. Are the investors saying anything to startups in early 2016 that's different than 2014 or 2015?  
    Jan 07, 2016
    The Cloudcast #234 - 2015 WrapUp + 2016 Predictions
    Aaron and Brian do their annual 2015 WrapUp show. They look at the most interesting shows, trends and topics from 2015, as well as making predictions for 2016.

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    • Topic 1 - Is Public Cloud making any money?
    • Topic 2 - Is Open Source Software making any money
    • Topic 3 - Everything is becoming an integrated solution.
    • Topic 4 - Bi-Modal vs. Tri-Modal IT
    • Topic 5 - The continued rise of SaaS applications (and who manages them)
    • Topic 6 - The continued rise of non-vendor companies recruiting developers
    Show Stats and Interesting Facts 

    • 60 Shows
    • Official Podcast at Cloud Foundry Summit, MesosCon, LinuxCon, DockerCon, VelocityConf, OSCON
    • Went over $5B in VC + M&A Funding for Guests

    Most Popular Show(s) of 2015:

    • Eps.200 (Future of Connected Cloud; Christian Reilly) 
    • Eps.199 (Docker Security; Diogo & Nathan) 
    • Eps.208 (DevOps; Nathan Harvey)

    Aaron’s 2015 Predictions - From 2014 show 

    • Container ecosystem is beginning to mature
    • Docker needs to go through Trough of Disillusionment
    • Skill Sets Changing - Blogging will become a lost art
    • GitHub or “GetOut” - people need to learn GitHub - see 30 Days of Commitmas (GitHub learning)
    • Existence of Bi-Modal IT - There is no migration path between the two.
    • “Infrastructure as a Code” replaces “Software-Defined” terminology
 Infrastructure jobs will become the operations portion of DevOps (automate everything)

    Brian’s 2015 Predictions - From 2014 show

    • Containers, Containers, Containers - competition for Docker in containers (VMware, CoreOS, etc.)? Moved from Containers to Systems.

    • Containers/Docker were mentioned everywhere (AWS, Tutum, Microsoft, DigitalOcean)
    • VMware pushes that “containers need VMs”
    • AWS is finally starting to understand the Enterprise; bundling/integrating services
    • Nobody values Cloud Management software
    • How do the VCs justify all this investment in companies that drive open-source projects?
    • What happens to all the SaaS tools platforms on AWS, can they survive economically?

    Our Grades on Various Topics/Companies/Themes

    • OpenStack
    • AWS
    • Azure
    • Google
    • Cisco
    • Other Public Clouds
    • Private Cloud or Hybrid Cloud
    • VMware
    • Docker
    • Cloud Foundry
    • Open Source centric companies (CoreOS, Hashicorp, Mesosphere)
    • Cluster-Management and Schedulers (Kubernetes, Mesos, Swarm)
    • SaaS Applications

    Brian’s 2016 Prediction Notes:

    • We’ll continue to see big bets (legacy vendors) and big failures 
    • Very curious to watch the open-source VMware-replacements (Hashicorp, CoreOS, Docker, etc.) monetize their business
    • We’ll begin to hear about some IoT success stories

    Aaron’s 2016 Prediction Notes: 
    Industry Predictions:

    • Docker Trough of Disillusionment will happen (push from last year) in favor of Open Standards
    • We will consolidate down to a handful of large hardware and software vendors in one (Oracle, Cisco, Dell) and pr
    Dec 31, 2015
    The Cloudcast #233 - NATS - Cloud Native Infrastructure
    Aaron and Brian talk with Larry McQueary - (@McQueary; Product Manager at Apcera for Cloud Native Infrastructure) about messaging platforms for microservices and distributed applications, how they differ from Enterprise Service Bus and how IoT applications have new requirements on the backend systems.

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    - How NATS, a REST Alternative, Provides Messaging for Distributed Systems

    • Topic 1 - People know Apcera from previous shows and discussions about Platforms. NATS is part of Apcera's platform, but it's also an independent project. Help us understand how the two are connected and separate?

    • Topic 2 - Let's talk about the basics of NATS? What's the difference between a message-bus and an enterprise-service-bus (or caching layers)?

    • Topic 3 - What types of applications use NATS and what are some of the characteristics (or architecture) of NATS that make it so fast and scalable?

    • Topic 4- Everybody is talking about mobile and IoT these days. We know about phones and sensors, but what do the back-end systems look like and how does this interact with NATS?

    • Topic 5 - How would someone deploy NATS? It is something that is best in a private cloud environment because of the performance requirements, or could it also run in multi-tenant, shared public cloud environments?
    Dec 23, 2015
    The Cloudcast #232 - Docker Security Part Deux
    Aaron talks to Cloudcast alum Diogo Monica and Nathan McCauley (@diogomonica and @nathanmccauley; Security Leads @Docker) about the focus on security at DeckerConEU, hardware signing of containers, the evolution and updates to Docker Notary and Trusted Registry, Project Nautilus and the security scanning of containers, and secret data in Docker Control Plane

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    Dec 16, 2015
    The Cloudcast #230 - The Docker Ecosystem
    Aaron talks to Nick Stinemates (@nickstinemates, VP Biz Dev @Docker) about Nick's life before business development, building a vibrant community around Docker, and how partners can co-exist within this new ecosystem.

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    Topic 1 - You have a super interesting background. You’ve gone from the techie world to the dark side. Tell us about your journey to where you are today. What’s it like to be the “old guys around Docker” having been here over 2 years.

    Topic 2 - The big announcement today was on Docker Universal Control Plane. It would appear with Trusted Registry Docker has created a place to store containers and then with Universal Control Plane a place to run containers. Is this a correct assessment? How do you see the next 12 months playing out for Docker customers? How does Tutum fit into this?

    Topic 3 - What are the challenges you hear about most today as you work on technical alliances? Are you the one that got Ben on every stage at every keynote last year?
    Dec 15, 2015
    The Cloudcast #231 - Docker & Tutum Cloud
    Aaron talks to Tutum Cloud's Borja Burgos (@borja_burgos) and Fernando Mayo (@FernandoMayo) about Docker's recent acquisition of Tutum Cloud, operational benefits of Tutum Cloud, future plans for Tutum, and how it will fit into the Docker ecosystem.

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    Dec 15, 2015
    The Cloudcast #229 - Weaveworks and New Stack Architectures

    Aaron talks to Alexis Richardson (@monadic, Co-founder and CEO @Weaveworks) about new container based architecture stacks and models, the state of Docker today and how to decipher this ever changing ecosystem

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    Topic 1 - Alexis, give us some background on yourself (RabbitMQ) as well as Weaveworks.

    Topic 2 - What is your view of the Docker ecosystem today?

    Topic 3 - Tell us about the state of networking in Docker today. This space is evolving quickly and has become a very hot market. What problems are you trying to solve that differentiates you from the others including SocketPlane (which has been absorbed into Docker). Isn’t the whole idea behind Weave is how to maintain your application and it’s networking without doing “unnatural acts” to get containers and networking to work together. How do the Weave products fit into this? Give us the decoder ring…  (more than Weave Net)

    Topic 4 - How do CoreOS or Kubernetes figure into all of this?
    Dec 09, 2015
    The Cloudcast #228 - Using Rancher to Deploy and Orchestrate Containers
    Aaron talks to Darren Shepherd (@ibuildthecloud, Co-founder and Chief Architect @Rancher Labs) about the move from IaaS and orchestration of virtual machines to containers. Topics include the transition from ephemeral to persistence, managing storage systems with Docker plugins and Rancher, managing vm’s inside containers the Google way, and lastly hypeconvergence comes to containers

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    Dec 08, 2015
    The Cloudcast #227 - Docker Networking and Project Calico
    Aaron talks to Jon Berger (@jonberger0, Evangelist Project Calico, @projectcalico) about their pure Layer 3 approach to virtual networking and containers. We discuss the differences between Docker’s libnetwork overlay and Project Calico, the Docker 1.9 plugin architecture, policy managers, and design considerations for designing highly scalable and secure container based solutions

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    Dec 07, 2015
    The Cloudcast #225 - VMware and Containers
    Aaron talks with Kit Colbert (@kitcolbert, VP & CTO Cloud Native Apps, VMware) at DockerCon EU about growing up in the VMware ecosystem and transferring skills to a cloud native apps world. Topics include VMware Integrated Containers, how the Docker and VMware tools fit together, evolution vs. revolution of operations, and future plans for VMware and containers.

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    Topic 1 - I grew up in VMware virtualization and the associated ecosystem. As you speak to VMware customers about the transition to Cloud Native Apps, how have the discussions been going? It's a very different audience that VMware's usual buyer.

    Topic 2 - Give us the basics of how the VMware Integrated Containers (VIC) elements align with Docker elements (machine, swarm, etc.).

    Topic 3 - The Docker tools tend to be a natural fit for developers and VMware has always made great tools for Ops. Are people understanding where and how they should integrate vs. keeping functions separate?

    Topic 4 - What is VMware’s plan around schedulers like Kubernetes and Mesos?
    Nov 28, 2015
    The Cloudcast #226 - Launching Spacecrafts with Containers
    Aaron talks with Dan Isla (@danisla, Data Scientist & Systems Engineer, Office of the CTO, Nasa’s JPL) about what it’s like to build spacecraft and use big data and container technologies to gain insight into trends to help make NASA more agile by building next generation systems. Topics include prototyping of new technologies, the advantages of containers, encapsulation of legacy applications in containers, and his insights into the Day 1 General Session announcements at DockerCon.

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    Nov 28, 2015
    The Cloudcast #223 - Surprising Facts and Monitoring Docker
    Aaron talks with Ilan Rabinovitch (@irabinovitch, Technical Community & Evangelism @Datadog) at DockerCon EU about his impressions from the Day 1 General Session, 8 Surprising Facts About Real Rocker Adoption, and the practical aspects of actually monitoring Docker at scale and the challenges we face today.

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    Topic 1 - We just left the Day One keynote. Thoughts about the state of Docker and the Docker ecosystem in general?

    Topic 2 - There is a post from Datadog called 8 Surprising Facts About Real Docker Adoption. We’ll have a link in the show notes. It has gotten a lot of attention (was it mentioned in the keynote) and provides some great statistics around Docker. Which facts did you find most surprising as Datadog was developing the post? (For me: Larger Companies are the Early Adopters or the Stickiness of ⅔ that try it, adopt it)

    Topic 3 - Let’s move on to Docker. There is a series of posts Datadog put up about Docker that are worth a read. What are the challenges to monitoring Docker? (short container life, lots of tear up and tear down) You talk about a “Twilight Zone” of monitoring in traditional applicatications that cover the vm and the app but leave the container as a gap. Standard metrics don’t work anymore, What are the new metrics?

    Nov 27, 2015
    The Cloudcast #224 - Getting Started with Docker Toolbox
    Aaron talks to John Willis (@botchagalupe, Director of Ecosystem Development) and Dave Tucker (@dave_tucker, Product Guy) about the Docker decoder ring to the new ecosystem and how to get started with the Docker Toolbox. In addition, we talk about multi-host networking, and immutable infrastructure and delivery with containers

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    Nov 27, 2015
    The Cloudcast #222 - Microsoft Operations Management Suite
    Brian talks with Jeremy Winter (Principle Group Program Manager @Microsoft) about the changing culture at Microsoft, the evolution of Hybrid Cloud management, OMS technology support and how Microsoft is listening to customers differently.*

    Topic 1 - Jeremy, you’ve been at Microsoft for a while and the company culture has been through a bunch of changes recently. Tell us about your background and what’s happening at Microsoft.

    Topic 2 - Many people know Microsoft Systems Center, so where does OMS fit into the broader Microsoft management framework? How does this tie into recent announcements from Microsoft + Red Hat?

    Topic 3 - Lots of new capabilities in OMS (Security, Automation, Logging, etc.), let's walk through what a customer's experience is like, especially across both private and public cloud environment

    Topic 4 - Many technologists are struggling with the pace of technology change, especially with some of the advanced stuff that's trying to replicate the web-scale clouds (AWS, Azure, etc.). How does OMS help reduce some of that learning curve, and what are some of the individual tools that someone could remove/reduce by using OMS instead?

    Topic 5 - In the OMS announcement, you talk about working closely with customers to build the experience. Tell us about how that process works and some of the feedback you got that wasn't expected?
    Nov 20, 2015
    The Cloudcast #221 - Self-Improvement as a Service
    Aaron, Brian and Amy Lewis talk with Srinivas Krishnamurti (@skrishna09; Founder/CEO of Zugata) about the VMware Mafia, being an EIR, the Zugata vision to make work-life better for individuals, the psychology of improving teamwork and the differences between building commercial software and SaaS services.

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    Topic 1 - You’re an alumni of the infamous VMware Mafia. Tell us about your background and why you decided to start Zugata. Also, let’s talk a little about the service.

    Topic 2 - You obviously had a premise about how this might change the work environment, but what have you learned from early adopters of the service?

    Topic 3 - How do you overcome that many people’s initial reaction to a tool like this is “privacy!, social engineering!, big brother! bullying!”

    Topic 4 - Let’s talk about building a SaaS service and mobile experience. Your background is in package software. What are the biggest differences from a development perspective?

    Topic 5 - Help us understand the basics of SaaS economics? Lots of services start for free, then attempt to convert to a freemium or fully-paid model. What are the milestones for new SaaS companies to consider?

    Topic 6 - As a SaaS service, you not only need to think about customers, but also your underlying cloud platform. What’s the landscape from the cloud providers for SaaS companies (advantages, disadvantages, etc)?
    Nov 06, 2015
    The Cloudcast #220 - The World of Many Clouds
    Aaron and Brian talk with Jonathan Donaldson (@jdonalds; VP/GM, Software Defined Infrastructure at Intel) about old times, how quickly the Cloud Computing market is evolving, the breadth of projects that the Intel SDI groups engages with, how to growth the number of clouds, and how Intel is addressing the IoT market.

    Topic 1 - Aaron and I both have known you for many years, and worked with you in various other organizations, but give our listeners not only your background but the things you’re working on at Intel these days.

    Topic 2 - The market is going pretty crazy these days as it relates to cloud - Dell/EMC merger and subsequent Virtustream announcement; HP getting out of public cloud (again); AWS announcing huge growth and new services; Rackspace becoming a service company for other clouds. Intel has pretty unique perspective. Help us see through all this cloudiness.

    Topic 3 - A lot of us follow Nick Weaver (@lynxbat) and the stuff he’s interested in (container, scheduling frameworks, automation, etc.) and we see some of the investments that Intel makes (or maybe they are just partnerships). As a VP/GM, how do you think about strategy when so many dynamics (economics, technology) are changing so rapidly?

    Topic 4 - The Cloud for All program is talking about “1000s of Clouds”. What do you think are the biggest areas that need to improve for that to happen, and are there some core applications that might accelerate this?

    Topic 5 - We’re starting to see lots of companies announce IoT platforms (Salesforce, AWS, SAP, Dell, Cisco, etc.). IoT is a cloud play and a device play. Where does Intel and SDI see the state of IoT these days?
    Oct 29, 2015
    The Cloudcast #219 - DevOps Enterprise Summit 2015
    Brian talks with Sam Fell (@samueldfell; Director of Product Marketing @ElectricCloud) about the DevOps Enterprise Summit, how Enterprise customers are different that startups, understanding the people/process side of DevOps and how Electric Cloud is making it easier to help Enterprise companies become more agile in deploying software.

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    Topic 1 - Tell us about your background and a little bit about Electric Cloud.

    Topic 2 - We’re here at DevOps Enterprise Summit in San Francisco. It’s been a great week in terms of learning and real customer stories of transformation. What have been your biggest takeaways or insight from some of the talks?

    Topic 3 - I’ve been doing some side research on the people and process part of companies transformation to DevOps and building/using Cloud Native applications. Certain patterns are beginning to emerge for me, but I’m curious on what you see from your customers.

    Topic 4 - Electric Cloud announced ElectricFlow this week, a framework for automated deployments. Talk a little bit about the product and how it fits into the stories we heard about this week?

    Topic 5 - We heard all week that DevOps is not about technology, but rather it’s about people and culture. But we know that technology plays a role. Are there things within the Electric Cloud platform that helps with those people elements, essentially shortcuts that can help make the people pieces be more successful?
    Oct 24, 2015
    The Cloudcast #218 - Learning from Blameless Post-Mortems
    Brian talks with Dave Zwieback (@mindweather; Head of Engineering @NextBigSound) about his book “Beyond Blame”, the challenging cultures of web-scale and DevOps, understanding complex and chaotic systems and how to lead through problems.

    Check out O-Reilly's new initiative: Learning Paths.

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    "Beyond Blame" book
    Dave’s Blog - Simple Thoughts on Complex Systems

    Topic 1 - Tell us about your background and the things you’re doing at NextBigSound.

    Topic 2 - You’re at VelocityConf this week. What topics are you really interested in or focused on?

    Topic 3 - Let’s talk about your book “Beyond Blame”. What was the motivation to write it and why choose the storytelling model (similar to The Phoenix Project)?

    Topic 4 - Is there a “journey to better post-mortems”  or “learning review” model, or is this an all-or-nothing approach?

    Topic 5 - The book talks a lot about accountability, and there is an area where “accountability” is defined very differently than we tend to use it today (“blame”). It’s one thing to discuss empathy, because that’s not really taught in any formal courses or via team/group things (e.g. sports). How to you expand or redefine a well-understood concept?

    Oct 17, 2015
    The Cloudcast #217 - Platforms - Build, Buy or Rent
    Aaron and Brian talk with Bridget Kromhout (@bridgetkromhout, Principal Technologist @pivotal, Co-Host @arresteddevops, @devopsdays Organizer.) about DevOps in practice, running Docker in production, building (or not) your own platform, AWS tools and where Docker fits with Cloud Native applications.

    Check out O-Reilly's new initiative: Learning Paths.

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    Bridget's Blog
    DevOps Days
    Arrested DevOps Podcast

    Topic 1 - Let's talk about your background in Operations, DevOps and now at Pivotal.

    Topic 2 - How did you shift from working as a grumpy SysAdmin to developing DevOps skills? What types of things are you doing now in the Pivotal Cloud Foundry team?

    Topic 3 - At OSCON 2015 you spoke about running Docker in production, from your time at Dram