That's So Retrograde

By Dear Media, Elizabeth Kott and Stephanie Simbari

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 Jan 2, 2020


That’s So Retrograde began the conversation when they pioneered merging wellness and pop culture back in 2015. Coined the “the Ab Fab of the new age”, hosts Elizabeth Kott and Stephanie Simbari highlight wellness trends before they hit the zeitgeist. Through speaking with thought leaders in health, beauty, astrology, cannabis and beyond, they offer their listeners a ‘choose their own adventure’ type experience on the path to building their own toolkit and finding the guru within. @soretrograde /

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Ep. 333 Bye For Now
TSR’s hosts, Elizabeth and Stephanie close out this chapter of the show with a trip down memory lane, sharing never before told stories and behind the scenes thoughts from the past 7 years.
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Sep 23, 2021
Ep. 332 Astrology in Retrogradeland: Ambi’s Cosmic Forecast for Fall, the Holidays, and Beyond
TSR’s astrologer in residence, Ambi Kavanagh (@alchemyambi), beams into Retrogradeland giving us an astro forecast highlighting the transits of now though the beginning of 2022. Covering the eclipses, returns, and of course, retrogrades of the coming months.
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Sep 16, 2021
Ep. 331 It Sure is a Beautiful Hiatus
Friend to the show, entertainment reporter and host of It Sure is a Beautiful Day podcast, Catt Sadler, joins Elizabeth and Stephanie in this candid convo revealing a break for TSR. Mark your cals, 2 more episodes before the hiatus 🌹
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Sep 09, 2021
Ep. 330 Gut Check - A Reminder of Why Your Gut Health Matters w/ Tina Anderson, CEO/co-founder of Just Thrive
Tina Anderson, CEO/co-founder of powerhouse probiotic brand, Just Thrive, joins Stephanie and Elizabeth to discuss the importance of gut health when it comes to healing. Whether your a seasoned pro-biotic connoisseur or a novice in the space of gut health this convo will leave you with some reminders and tips on how to nurture your gut for optimal wellness.
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Sep 02, 2021
Ep. 329 So Retrograde Dives into The Hills, Product Recs, and The Best Parts of Life After 35 with Whitney Port
Whitney Port is back in Retrogradeland, discussing the cathartic act of a Hills rewatch, her new conscious clothing brand, Cozeco, organizational tips, social media advice and some current product recs from Whit, Steph and Elizabeth.
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Aug 26, 2021
Ep. 328 What We're Craving? More of Molly Carmel!
This week we had a fun Dear Media crossover moment when we welcomed eating disorder & addiction therapist and host of What You’re Craving, Molly Carmel. We picked Molly’s brain on the cross-section of diet culture and wellness and talked addiction and food freedom.
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Aug 19, 2021
Ep. 327 We Get An Astro Therapy Session with The Pattern's CEO Lisa Donovan

Lisa Donovan started as a pioneer in the YouTube space and began quietly building an astrology app seven years ago. Fast forward to current times, her app, The Pattern, is a world wide success. Join us as we learn about the inception and growth of this seemingly magical piece of tech and listen in as Elizabeth and Steph get a little astro therapy in the process.

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Aug 12, 2021
Ep. 326 In Loving Memory of Guru Jagat: A Conversation We Love
This week on That's So Retrograde, we're saddened by the sudden passing of our fairy GodGuru, Guru Jagat. GJ was a force of nature, generous and hilarious, endlessly wise and open hearted and we are so grateful to have had the opportunity and pleasure to be in her orbit.  This episode is a conversation we held with her in 2017 that has never been aired, you can find the remainder of it and a meditation led by her on YouTube at You can also listen to another full episode (119) at:

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Aug 05, 2021
Ep. 325 All Mushrooms Are Magic with Alli Schaper, CEO & Co-founder of Multiverse
Journey with us as we welcome, Alli Schaper (@allischaper), co-founder of The Multiverse, the world’s first online mushroom marketplace. From the functional variety to the psychedelic, Alli shares her extensive knowledge on the benefits, therapies and legalities shaping the rising industry of the fungi kingdom. 
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Jul 29, 2021
Ep. 324 Overwhelmed? We're Doing Thought Work and Increasing Mental Flexibility with Happy Not Perfect author Poppy Jamie
Beaming into Retrogradeland from the UK, mental health advocate, author, and friend to the show, Poppy Jaime, joins us to chat about her new book, Happy Not Perfect.
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Jul 22, 2021
Ep. 323 “I Majored in Doula”, A Nip Slip, and The Business of Birthing with Carson Meyer

This week Steph welcomes friend, birth Doula and founder of C+The Moon, Carson Meyer to Retrogradeland to talk all things pregnancy and birth. We answer the question of what is a doula vs a midwife, clarify the roles of all people involved in pregnancy and birth, and answer the question of how women can educate and empower themselves on their journey into motherhood. Check out her work plus her amazing body scrub and candle over at: or @ccmeyer on IG. 

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Jul 15, 2021
Ep. 322 That’s So Iconic: A Real Housewives Breakdown w/ Danny Pellegrino
Elizabeth is joined by Danny Pellegrino (@dannypellegrino) the host of Everything Iconic, to discuss her favorite mindfulness practice: The Real Housewives.
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Jul 08, 2021
Ep. 321 Our At-Home Wellness Allstars ft. Higher Dose
With many years of research under their belt, Elizabeth and Stephanie discuss the big ticket wellness items that they absolutely love and recommend. Holding court on the top of their lists is the infrared sauna blanket and PEMF mat from Higher Dose. Joining them to discuss the magic and technology of these products is Higher Dose co-founder, Lauren Berlingeri. 
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Jul 01, 2021
Ep. 320 Bloated and Anxious 2021 with the Arrae Co-Founders

Hanging with Siff Haider and Nish Samantray, the husband and wife duo behind Arrae, a wellness brand that aims to holistically heal 2 of our most human problems: bloat and anxiety. Use our code: TSR at for a 10% discount.

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Jun 24, 2021
Ep. 319 A Wellness To-Do List with Corinne Foxx
Writer, host, executive producer, Corinne Foxx drops into Retrogradeland with some amazing wellness tips off her self care to do list. To hear more from Corinne check out her podcast “Am I Doing This Right?” 
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Jun 17, 2021
Ep. 318 Wherever I Go, There You Are with Elizabeth and Steph
Elizabeth and Stephanie reunite at the Dear Media studios for the first time this year (during a Retrograde no less) riffing on the roses and thorns of re-entering the world.
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Jun 10, 2021
Ep. 317 BONUS! How Do You Feel About Your Face? Mind-Body Education and Skin Insecurities w/ Dr. Shirazi and Maria Sosa

We’ve been known to go deep on the topic of skin but have never gotten into its mental health impact... until now. We got ahold of some very interesting stats via a recent survey conducted by Mederma on the impact of skin and mental health and invited therapist, Maria Sosa (@holistacallygrace) & Cosmetic Dermatologist, Dr. Azadeh Shirazi to discuss the survey's findings.

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Jun 08, 2021
Ep. 316 WE'RE BACK! And Talking Akashic Records w/ Kariann Price
Ever wonder about the Akashic Records? same. So we hit up the magical Kariann Price ( (who also happens to be our friend’s mom) to answer all our questions about this modality that ultimately helps us to tap into our guides and soul’s gifts. We love it!
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Jun 03, 2021
Ep. 315 Has Your Cycle Gotten Off-Track? Listen To This with Alisa Vitti
Reigning queen of the ovarian landscape Alisa Vitti is back in Retrogradeland to drop more knowledge on the hormonal cycle in its many facets. Talking bio rhythms, supplementation, and how to become a curious participant in your overall hormonal health. Listen back in the catalog for our five other episodes with @floliving.
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May 27, 2021
Ep. 314 Dear So Retrograde w/ Gabby Bernstein
Gabby Bernstein (@gabbybernstein) is a spiritual entrepreneur, author, speaker and now host of her new advice driven podcast, Dear Gabby. She teams up with Elizabeth and Stephanie to answer questions sent in by the TSR audience, speaking to the specific challenges that many of us are facing. In the process, Gabby offers guidance to the show's hosts who speak openly about the hurdles they have been experiencing within their friendship during this time.

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May 20, 2021
Ep. 313 Beverage Influencing with The Man Behind The Booch: GT Dave
It's a manifest guestiny mitzvah today in Retrogradeland as Steph and Elizabeth welcome Erewhon legend and fizzy drink entrepreneur, GT Dave. They go deep on the history of kombucha, the rise of the industry, his brand evolution and tap him (see what we did there) for advice for the kombucha connoisseur and novice alike. We hope this episode lights up your microbiome. 
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May 13, 2021
Ep. 312 Holy Grail Product Recs and Skin Tips w/ Elizabeth & Shani Darden
Shani Darden (@shanidarden), who was Elizabeth’s esthetician back in the day, drops into Retrogradeland to share her vast insider skin knowledge. Lots is discussed from remedying mask related breakouts, vibration therapy for skin health, retinols, exfoliants, spf, treatments for melasma and Shani’s skincare line now available at Sephora. p.s. We are doing a Shani product giveaway this week on instagram so check out @soretrograde for further details.
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May 06, 2021
Ep. 311 Lymphluencing with Lisa Levitt Gainsley, Author of ‘The Book of Lymph’
Mother of lymph, Certified Lymphedema Therapist, and author of The Book of Lymph, Lisa Levitt Gainsley returns to the show to celebrate the release of her much anticipated book of self care practices to enhance immunity, health, and beauty.  Lymph health is overall health y’all! 
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Apr 29, 2021
Ep. 310 Career Evolution and Podcasting Tips - Elizabeth and Steph and The SOS Podcast
In this episode That’s So Retrograde had the pleasure of being interviewed by Molly and Alissa Of the SOS podcast - Elizabeth and Steph speak on their friendship turned business partnership, practical podcasting tips, their take on imposter syndrome + more.
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Apr 22, 2021
Ep. 309 What Does Summer 2021 and Beyond Hold? Astro Check In w/ Shannon Aganza & Steph
In this one on one chat with astrologer Shannon Aganza @ moongathering, Steph gets some deep intel on what the current astro lessons are and how we can work with them to live as harmoniously as possible in this new landscape! 
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Apr 15, 2021
Ep. 308 Is Clean Beauty a Myth? Plus the NASA-Approved Skincare Tool You Need to Know About w/ Gloss Angeles
Beauty expert bff’s, Sara Tan and Kirbie Johnson, hosts of the Gloss Angeles Podcast, bring their beauty biz authority to Retrogradeland. De-mystifying the ‘clean’ beauty myth and giving us some hot takes on celebrity lead brands and new gadgets that just may be the future of skincare.
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Apr 08, 2021
Ep. 307 Should I Freeze My Eggs? Answering Your Sexual Health Questions with Dr. Jackie
This week on the show we welcome Dr. Jackie Walters, host of Dear Media's Dr. Jackie's Point of V, cast member of Bravo's 'Married To Medicine', and author of The Queen. She answers questions about fertility testing and egg freezing, reveals intel about PRP in the V, and speaks candidly on her experiences in women's health and reality TV.
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Apr 01, 2021
Ep. 306 The Skin Barrier: What's Next in Skincare w/ The Nue Co
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Going deep on their brand obsession, Elizabeth and Stephanie, welcome Jules Miller, founder of The Nue Co. for a sciencey skin convo focusing on the buzzword of the moment: The Skin Barrier. Plus, getting into the lengthy research, development and innovation that goes into bringing their products to market.

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Mar 30, 2021
Ep. 305 Elizabeth’s Tips for Doing + Sticking with The Artist’s Way
Thinking of doing Julia Cameron's The Artists Way? Listen to this first. As a huge fan of the book, Elizabeth Kott, shares her tried and true tips, tricks, and best practices for beginning and working through the 12 week course. 
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Mar 25, 2021
Ep. 304 The Whole30 Episode with Melissa Urban
Get an insider's perspective into everything you ever wanted to know about Whole30 as Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome Whole30s co-founder Melissa Urban to Retrogradeland. This episode takes a fan girl deep dive into tips, tricks, and product shout outs. Plus, gets into the important evolution of Whole30 with its focus inclusion, accessibility and the reframing of diet culture.
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Mar 18, 2021
Ep. 303 BOYFRIEND ALERT! Pandemic Dating and Astrological Compatibility with Stephanie Simbari <3
On this week's episode Steph takes a solo journey into her wild dating lessons of 2020 that led her to finding her now boyfriend. She answers your questions about dating + astrology, opening up to finding someone online, takes you through moon pot rituals step by step, and talks about letting go of her sad singleness and finding love for herself. It's a heartfelt deep dive we really hope you enjoy!! 
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Mar 11, 2021
Ep. 302 Wellness Trend Alert: Ketamine Therapy!
Today on the show Steph and Elizabeth welcome founder and executive chairman of Field Trip Health, Ronan Levy for a fun conversation on the use of psychedelics for enhanced breakthroughs in psychotherapy. Field Trip is on a mission to bring the world to life through psychedelics. To learn more visit  
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Mar 04, 2021
Ep. 301 Our Morning Routines
Stephanie and Elizabeth get specific, walking us through the practices and products they use to kick off their day. For a full list of the products mentioned in this episode sign up for the TSR newsletter:
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Feb 25, 2021
Ep. 300 Chief Motivation Officer of our Hearts with Angela Manuel Davis
This week on the show, legendary fitness guide, Angela Manuel Davis joins us for an inspired conversation on the spiritual power of our physical bodies. As co-founder of Aarmy, Angela is on a mission to connect people with their innate power to lead healthy and fulfilled lives through fun and a ferocious commitment to inspiring change from the inside out. PS subscribe to our newsletter and get early access to the new merch collab with FOR DAYS! 
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Feb 18, 2021
Ep. 299 Gimme More Immunity with Dr. Bita Nasseri and Dr. Shawn Nasseri
Elizabeth and Stephanie talk about the Framing Britney Spears documentary on Hulu. In addition, famed Los Angeles-based doctors, Dr. Bita Nasseri and Dr. Shawn Nasseri (@thenasseridoctors), give tips on strengthening our immunity in these Covid times and educate us on their mission to democratize respiratory health as founders of Euka Wellness (@eukawell), which is a system of clean and conscious products that they created to help protect and boost our immune systems.
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Feb 11, 2021
Ep. 298 A Course In Current Events with Marianne Williamson

Guiding light, Marianne Williamson once again graces the TSR Universe with her presence, wisdom, and humor. We caught up with her since last we spoke when she was running for President. She shares her reflections from the campaign trail, where she’s at now with everything, her social media habits, and what she’s loving on Netflix. It’s an enlightening 2021 TSR Rose!

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Feb 04, 2021
Ep. 297 2021 Astrology Chat with Ambi Kavanagh

It is our much anticipated astro forecast of 2021 episode with TSR’s cosmic guide in residence, Ambi Kavangh (@alchemyambi). Covering the themes and transits to look out for in the year ahead.

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Jan 28, 2021
Ep. 296 2021 Wellness Trend Alert! Testing Your Health At Home with Lola Priego
Stephanie and Elizabeth welcome founder and disrupter, Lola Priego, of BASE, a new at home lab testing app for sleep, stress, brain fog, sex-drive, and diet. It’s fun to get informed on the science and process behind these tests and the story that brought the founder to create it. 
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Jan 21, 2021
Ep. 295 Numerology of 2021 with Remington Donovan

It’s here folks! We are jumping right back into it by breaking down the numerology of 2021 with Remington Donovan (@themysticalarts), who is back for his third year in a row to give us predictions on the year ahead.

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Jan 14, 2021
Ep. 294 Best of Wellness 2020 (Roses only) with Stephanie and Elizabeth

Elizabeth and Stephanie reflect on this wild year and reveal their top wellness discoveries, practices, and products of 2020. 

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Dec 31, 2020
Ep. 293 Festive Quarantine Bae with We Met Acme’s Lindsey Metselaar
Steph and Elizabeth welcome podcasting sister, Lindsey Metselaar, host of WE MET AT ACME (@wemetatacme) to talk pandemic dating experiences and realizations. Lindsay highlights do’s + don’ts of quarentine dating and they all open up about their relationship status. 

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Dec 24, 2020
Ep. 292 Chakra Clearing Sound Bath For The Holidays by Ambi Kavanagh
It’s a gift from That’s So Retrograde and Ambi Kavanagh (@alchemyambi), a chakra clearing sound bath for some festive, calming cheer. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the soothing sounds of crystal bowls and gongs to set your chakras right.

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Dec 22, 2020
Ep. 291 Tips for Unleashing Your Creativity with Rachel Platten
Singer/songwriter/powerhouse mama, Rachel Platten @rachelplatten, joins the show for a vulnerable conversation on the fight to maintain a positive relationship with creativity. The three ladies bond about their experience with The Artist’s Way and muse on new projects coming down the pipeline. 
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Dec 17, 2020
Ep. 290 Wellness Trends and Predictions with Well+Good
Well+Good’s Editor In-Chief, Kate Spies, joins the show to discuss predicted trends in health, beauty and self care coming down the pipeline in 2021. 
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Dec 10, 2020
Ep. 289 Bring Your Ancestors, Let’s Chat! with Ash Johns
Ancestral healer and coach, Ash Johns (@ashinspires), joins E + S for a zoom party in RetrogradeLand. At long last, all our questions about ancestral healing are answered. Sit down, tune in, and BYO ancestors!!
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Dec 03, 2020
Ep. 288 Reminder: Self Care is Free with Ryan Weiss
In the spirit of the season, we’re so grateful to go back to basics with this week’s guest and long time friend to the show, life coach, Ryan Weiss (@wakingupwithryan). Ryan reminds us that self care is free with the introduction of his new initiative, The Sanctuary Challenge.
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Nov 26, 2020
Ep. 287 That's So Silverman with Sarah Silverman
It’s a crossover episode with TSR’s mom and new favorite podcaster, Sarah Silverman! In celebration of her new podcast (The Sarah Silverman Podcast), she’s doling out advice for our dear listeners who called the TSR hotline (1.833.5falcon, call us anytime + leave a voicemail) and we get some hot tips on her skincare routine + more. PS: For exclusive show notes and musings from Elizabeth + Stephanie, sign up for the TSR weekly email at:
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Nov 19, 2020
Ep. 286 Tarot Magic with Cardsy B

It’s a tarot deep dive with one of Stephanie and Elizabeth’s favorite intuitive guides + readers, Cardsy B (@cardsyb). They talk the magic of the cards and as a special bonus, a few lucky listeners get their first ever tarot readings live on air.

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Nov 12, 2020
Ep. 285 Plant Medicine and Psychedelics with The Sabina Project
Stephanie and Elizabeth meet Charlotte James and Dre Wright, founders of The Sabina Project ( @thesabinaproject), a black led psychedelic education, training and harm reduction platform. In a mind blowing and informative discussion we hear about their BIPOC psychedelic initiative, learn the ins and outs of different types of plant medicines (including cannabis) and how to get involved with a ceremony digitally or near you. Find out more at


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Nov 05, 2020
Ep. 284 Ghost Party with Medium Concetta Bertoldi
It's our annual Halloween Spooktober Spectacular as we welcome medium and best selling author, Concetta Bertoldi (@concettabertoldi) to the show. Things get emotional as she connects with Stephanie and Elizabeths’ grandmothers who assure them that everything is AOK. Hear that? EVERYTHING IS AOK folks. The spirits don’t know about the election! Sending everyone some extra deep breaths as we hit the final countdown to Nov 3 + it is also Steph’s birthday so a double whammy right there. Roses are a caffeinated drink list of faves and a celebration of being the beginner w/ digital art classes (@makersmess).


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Oct 29, 2020
Ep. 283 October Cosmic Roundup w/ The EdibleSpirit
Elizabeth and Stephanie beam back to their live recording  to welcome TSR Allstar EdibleSpirit (mikey Domitrovich) for a closer look at what is happening currently in the cosmos. Special thanks to magical spot Dynasty Typewriter for partnering with us on our first ever live digital recording - you can view the show (including live audience psychic reads) in full on our YouTube.
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Oct 22, 2020

Get to know TSR hosts on a deeper level as Elizabeth + Stephanie continue answering listener q’s. This time they are covering the inception of So Retrograde, practical tips for financial recovery, birth control and more.

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Oct 20, 2020
Ep. 281 The Retrogrades and the Election with Jessica Lanyadoo and Lindsay Scola of Zodiac The Vote
Renowned astrologer, Jessica Lanyadoo and political activist, Lindsay Scola, visit RetrogradeLand and go deep on their exciting joint venture: Zodiac the Vote. It's a convo for the political minded and celestially oriented alike...That IS So Retrograde!! Roses: VOTE EARLY!! 

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Oct 15, 2020
Ep. 280 Introducing My 90s Playlist

We’ve all been there – you’re listening to music on shuffle and a song you haven’t heard forever comes on. You’re immediately thrown back to where you were, 20 years ago, listening to it for the first time. My 90s Playlist breaks down the why of our love for the hits of the 90s. What made our favorite songs so popular back then? Why are we so nostalgic for them now? Throughout the season, our hosts, Tracy Clayton and Akoto Ofori-Atta, will celebrate their picks for a quintessential 90s playlist.

Oct 13, 2020
Ep. 279 Erin Brockovich to the Rescue

It’s a legends only type of episode as water activist and cultural icon, Erin Brockovich (@the_real_erin_brockovich),  graces us with her wit and wisdom. Discussing her inspiring work as a consumer advocate and her new book and podcast Superman Is Not Coming. 


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Oct 08, 2020
Ep. 278 Trailblazing in the Clean Beauty Space with Dana Jackson
Steph and Elizabeth have a zoom kiki with Dana Jackson, visionary and founder of non-toxic skincare line Beneath Your Mask (@beneathyourmask). We learn the why of her business and how she bootstrapped it into becoming the booming luxury line it is today. R+T keeps with the theme, offering a clean beauty mini recc roundup of its own. p.s. TSR is going digital for a live recording with Dynasty Typewriter Oct 9 w/ guest @ediblespirit, visit @soretrograde on instagram for details and tickets.
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Oct 01, 2020
Elizabeth and Stephanie go off the interview rails and candidly answer some fun and deep listener questions around body image, diet culture, career paths, virginity losing and more.
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Sep 30, 2020
Ep. 276 Business Class with Sophia Amoruso

This week we welcome famed entrepreneur and author, Sophia Amoruso (NastyGal, Girlboss) to RetrogradeLand for a candid convo on the triumphs and mis-steps turned valuable lessons that lead her to create her new immersive digital course, Business Class, on bootstrapping your business. This one is for anyone with a career pivot in mind or those that are ready to invest in themselves and their capacity to create their own reality as we enter an entirely new career landscape. R+T is literal roses with Steph celebrating a new tattoo and hot tips on how to keep it chill while working from home.




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Sep 24, 2020
Ep. 275 Tech Addiction SOS! With digital habits coach Tommy Sobel
As we continue to untwist our relationship with our screens, phone smart coach + founder of Brick (, Tommy Sobel, drops into RetrogradeLand to talk neuroscience and behavioral conditioning around tech addiction. Brick is a grassroots movement for people motivated to develop healthier relationships with screens and social media, rosey stuff! Additional roses are: Tarot readings from @cardsyb + meditations from @shivarasa. Be sure to check out our weekly newsletter for in-depth show notes from each episode and exclusive intel from Elizabeth + Steph, sign up at


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Sep 17, 2020
Ep. 274 Chakra Talk with Ambi Kavanagh
Longtime guide, friend of the show, Reiki master, sound healer and coach, Ambi Kavanagh (@alchemyambi), is back inside TSR HQ to walk us through the chakras and how we can best resource our energy as it pertains to this ancient system. It’s fun and colorful, come along for the ride! Elizabeth begins her Artist’s Way journey and Steph finds the light in their rosey explorations of creativity. Check out @soretrograde on instagram for details on how you can win Ambi’s new book - Chakras and Self Care: Activate the Healing Power of Chakras with Everyday Rituals


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Sep 10, 2020
Ep. 273 Closing the loop on fashion with Kristy Caylor of For Days
Talking the future of fashion and sustainability with Kristy Caylor, founder of For Days (@for___days) an organic zero waste basics line, the first of its kind, transforming commerce into a circular economy - making their zero waste system available to everyone. Ps. we just dropped a merch collab with them.


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Sep 03, 2020
Ep. 272 Authentic inclusivity advice for brands with Wilma Mae Basta and Danielle Jackson

In part 2 of our discussion with DRK Beauty (@thisisdrkbeauty) founders Wilma Mae Basta and Danielle Jackson they speak to how brands can be authentically inclusive and dive into ‘DRK Beauty Healing’, the pro bono therapy arm of their platform.


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Aug 27, 2020
Ep. 271 BONUS! The Creation of DRK Beauty with Wilma Mae Basta and Danielle Jackson
DRK Beauty (@thisisdrkbeauty) is a community-driven digital platform whose mission celebrates women of color by producing curated content that resonates with often-neglected communities as well as providing mental health resources through their initiative, DRK Beauty Healing. We kibitz with their founders in this Part 1vof the convo where we dive into the story behind DRK’s mission and the importance of their content. Stay tuned for Part deux later this week. R+T is a  surprising twist with Elizabeth and Stephanie in a new kind of relationship, spoiler its a body pillow (@sleepcrown) 


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Aug 25, 2020
Ep. 270 The Mouth Microbiome with Beverly Hills Dentist Dr. Maddahi + his partner Caroline Duggan
Famed Beverly Hills dentist, Lumineux creator and co-founder, and author of The Toxic Overload, Dr. Maddahi, along with his business partner, Caroline, talk to us about effective natural dental care and the mouth microbiome. He answers a bunch of dental questions we have been banking to ask an expert. Roses + Thorns includes a TSR related Million Dollar Listing cameo. 
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Aug 21, 2020
Ep. 269 Cosmic 911 with Astrologer Danielle Beinstein

Elizabeth and Steph call on psychological astrologer Danielle Beinstein (@danibeinstein) for an emergency astro episode, deep diving into the current transits and WTF is going on up there!


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Aug 13, 2020
Ep. 268 Re-listening Party: The Numerology of 2020 with Remington Donovan

Minds blown as we time travel to a simpler moment, January 2020. In this re-release, we revisit our first episode of the year with numbers king, Remington Donovan, who dropped knowledge on the meaning of a 4 year aka 2020. We hope this journey down memory lane initiates and empowers you on in your healing and awakening through all these unforeseen pivots. #2020

Aug 06, 2020
Ep. 267 The Art of Connecting on Zoom with Andrea Bendewald
In a time where it feels like connecting digitally is the only option, Elizabeth and Stephanie, call upon one of their all time favorite guests: mindfulness coach and circle facilitator, Andrea Bendewald, The Art of Circling (@andreabendewald).  Sit in for a conversation and some practical tips with regard to digitally connecting on a deeper level with our community and ultimately ourselves. + Roses and thorns comes in with a reading rec and a gaming rec for anyone looking to connect with themselves via books or trivia.


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Jul 30, 2020
Ep. 266 Community Justice Work with Alana Greer, Human Rights Lawyer

Alana Greer is the co-founder of the Community Justice Project (@cjpmiami) and drops into TSR HQ to educate us on the work she does as an activist and community justice lawyer, organizing for racial justice and human rights through her innovative legal work. R+T is Elizabeth’s non-drinking drinking roundup and Steph dives deeper into re-defining her relationship to tech.


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Jul 23, 2020
Ep. 265 BONUS! Get Kott Up - Stephanie Interviews Elizabeth
Stephanie Simbari turns the tables and interviews fellow TSR host, Elizabeth Kott, for some quar time reflections and recommendations.
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Jul 21, 2020
Ep. 264 Wellness Check with Yamaneika Saunders
It’s a Funny Girls mini reunion as Steph’s friend + reality show co-star; comic, actress, and host: Yamaneika Saunders (@yamaneika), joins the show. Sharing updates on quar life, awakening to the wonders of a diva cup and offering a much needed education on racial injustice in America.


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Jul 16, 2020
Ep. 263 Ally 101 with Quddus
Former MTV veejay turned public speaking and personal development coach, Quddus (@Quddus), drops into the TSR universe to speak on Black Lives Matter + he give us all a coaching session on stepping into allyship as he discusses his new project, Ally Now.
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Jul 09, 2020
Ep. 262 Wondery Presents The Daily Smile

Everyone needs a reminder about just how good people can be. On Wondery’s new series The Daily Smile, host Nikki Boyer brings you stories that will make you feel good each weekday morning.
With interviews, inspiring clips, and chats with special guests and passionate friends, The Daily Smile takes you on a journey into goodness, gives you all the feels, and will leave you with a smile on your face.



Jul 09, 2020
Ep. 261 Cycle Syncing and Other Biohacking Adventures with Alisa Vitti

Female biohacker, femtech entrepreneur, author and veteren TSR all-star, Alisa Vitti ( @alisa.vitti / @floliving), is back once again to speak to cycle syncing in the time of Covid - when creating a new normal with our cycle as a guide is more accessible than ever. Roses = Steph + Elizabeth share meditation recs, sensitive skin product recs and EK admits to her latest youtube wormhole.

Jul 02, 2020
Ep. 260 BONUS! I Wanna Dance with Simbari - Elizabeth Interviews Stephanie

For the first time, it is a host on host interview as Elizabeth Kott Interviews fellow TSR host Stephanie Simbari.


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Jun 30, 2020
Ep. 259 A Friendship Moment + BLM Reflections with Vanessa Chester

Elizabeth and Steph bring their offline convos they have about race and Black Lives Matter to the mic with the help of their dear friend + actress, Vanessa Chester (@vanessalchester), with the intention of normalizing the convo around this important topic.


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Jun 25, 2020
Ep. 258 Covid Career Pivots and Maintaining a Healthy Mindset with Amina Altai

Conscious career coach and friend to the show, Amina Altai is back with some much needed guidance on where to go from here when it comes to our career minds in this shifting economic landscape. Reminding us there’s so much to consider when taking new steps and offering wisdom on how to treat this time like an offering as opposed to a stress inducing burden. R+T is reflective + suggestive with what to watch and where not to scroll. 


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Jun 19, 2020
Ep. 258 Covid Career Pivots and Maintaining a Healthy Mindset with Amina Altai

Conscious career coach and friend to the show, Amina Altai is back with some much needed guidance on where to go from here when it comes to our career minds in this shifting economic landscape. Reminding us there’s so much to consider when taking new steps and offering wisdom on how to treat this time like an offering as opposed to a stress inducing burden. R+T is reflective + suggestive with what to watch and where not to scroll. 


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Jun 19, 2020
Ep. 257 Money School For This Moment With Our Financial Advisors Stephanie Bucko and Cristina Livadary
Steph and Elizabeth invite financial advisors, Stephanie Bucko and Cristina Livadary (@manafld), back on the show to share tools for financial empowerment during this time of much financial fear and uncertainty. Please join us at the end of the conversation for an 8 min and 46 second moment of silence in support of Black Lives Matter.

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Jun 05, 2020
Ep. 256 A Beginners Guide to Sustainable Living with Nikki Reed
Actress, activist + founder of Bayou With Love, Nikki Reed brings her sustainable living expertise to the That’s So Retrograde universe. She inspires us with a conversation on recycling, composting, conscious fashion, the ethos behind her brand, and of course we cover her iconic movie, Thirteen. R+T comes in hot with a giveaway to a front line worker; go ahead and slide into our DMs and let us know who to thank.

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May 28, 2020
Ep. 255 Wellness Check with Nicole Aimee Schreiber
Comedian and former cast member of Steph’s reality show, Funny Girls, Nicole Aimee Shreiber (@nicoleaimee) pops in and gets real with Steph and Elizabeth on how she’s learned to thrive in this new reality. Spoiler alert: we’re talking rebounders, microdosing, and tools on staying present. It’s a real friendship rose for these unprecedented times.


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May 21, 2020
Ep. 254 Bonus! TSR Meditates I Sound Bath with Ambi Kavanagh
This quarantine has us trying stuff and we are pleased to present to you a healing sound bath meditation provided by TSR MVP Ambi Kavanagh. Light a candle, pop some CBD, and get cozy! For maximum enjoyment, listen with earbuds.


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May 19, 2020
Ep. 253 Learning to Journal Speak with Nicole Sachs, LCSW
Licensed psychotherapist, speaker, podcaster, and author Nicole Sachs, is back on the show to dive deep on her incredible healing practice: Journal Speak. The discipline is a 20 minute emotional journaling exercise that heals chronic pain and skin issues, to name a few, and Steph and Elizabeth are honored to put the TSR stamp of approval on this incredible healing modality. 


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May 14, 2020
Ep. 252 Recovering from Reality According To Alexis Haines
Steph and Elizabeth sit down with Alexis Haines, host of Recovering From Reality. Alexis gives an awesome download on lessons from her reality TV past, recovering from addiction and shares some innovative realizations from her explorations in wellness.  
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May 07, 2020
Ep. 251 A Quarantine Coaching Session with Lauren Zander
Lifecoach Lauren Zander is back talking relationships to self and others for this quarantine specific conversation. + Elizabeth and Steph share a quarantine routine update.


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Ep. 250 Lessons from Earth School with Ruthie Lindsey
Ruthie Lindsey returns to TSR to celebrate and discuss the release of her aptly timed memoir, There I Am: The Journey From Hopelessness to Healing.
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Apr 23, 2020
Ep. 249 BONUS! A Cannabis Celebration for 4/20 ft. Nidhi Handa of Leune
It’s a cannabis miracle as we dive into the worlds of THC and CBD with female cannabis entrepreneur Nidhi Handa of Leune (@leunebrand). Plus, Steph and Elizabeth give their Cannabis recommendations for you to enjoy this rosiest of Holidays- check out for a comprehensive list of all the brands mentioned in this episode.

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Apr 20, 2020
Ep. 248 Keeping Your Home (and Mind) Energetically Clear with Meghan Wallace James
Steph and Elizabeth do their first official virtual interview with the queen of elevating space, Meghan Wallace James (@meghan.wallace.james). Never ever was there a more apt time to gracefully dive deep into those home projects than a mandated “stay at home” order. The ladies cover listener questions on shui in the time of quarantine and offer their personal feelings on how the process has added to their growth and helped them stay sane in this time.

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Apr 16, 2020
Ep. 247 Cooking at Home with The Defined Dish
Alex Snodgrass (@thedefineddish), foodie and author of the NYT bestselling cookbook, The Define Dish, sits down with Steph + Elizabeth in a pre-pandemic conversation that syncs perfectly with being at home and in the kitchen. Alex breaks down the basics of Whole 30, how the guidelines of the “eating plan” helped with lessening her anxiety, and what we need in our pantry to get the creative kitchen party started. Roses and Thorns covers a slew of shelter at home tips: workout recs (@ryan.heffington), podcast recs: Take Away Only, discoveries in cooking and an elevated website rec (@elevateJane).


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Apr 09, 2020
Ep. 246 COVID-19 and the Astros with Debra Silverman
Astrologer, psychotherapist and writer, Debra Silverman (@debrasilverman_astrology), gets into the particulars of the current cosmic forecast as it relates to the global pandemic we are facing. On a micro level, she breaks down how we individually deal with crisis based on the elements of our astrological chart, providing actionable advice on how to self soothe, and guides us in a heartfelt meditative prayer around trusting the moment. Roses and Thorns is extended with a special guest - Elizabeth’s boyfriend, Joey Greer, graces the mic as he, Steph and Elizabeth discuss the R and T’s of relationships, non relationships and creativity inside of this unique moment in time.


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Apr 02, 2020
Ep. 245 Quarantine Routine with Stephanie and Elizabeth
Musing over wellness tips while under quarantine, listener questions, and quick fire q + a between the two of them, this episode emerges as a rosy rose in these thorny times. 
Mar 26, 2020
Ep. 244 Spring Hath Sprung: Harnessing The Elements of the Season with Traditional Chinese Medicine Doctor Carolyn Barron

Carolyn Barron, TSR’s TCM Doctor and Master herbalist, graces the mic with her poetic breakdown of the seasonal pivot into Spring, “Nature’s debutante ball”. Detailing how we can work with this change and harness its elements to elevate our existence and sync with the season. 


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Mar 19, 2020
Ep. 243 Bonus! TSR's Insider Guide to LA

You asked for it, we heard you! It’s time to sit in on an intimate conversation with Elizabeth and Steph as they take their new to Los Angeles friend, Alyssa Heimrich, on a journey through the TSR insider's guide to the city. For the full list of recommendations mentioned in this episode visit the ‘show notes’ section of


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Mar 17, 2020
Ep. 242 The Magic of Friendship with The Magicians’ Hale Appleman
Stephanie and Elizabeth’s dear friend Hale Appleman (@halebofosho) pops by TSR HQ to travel back in time with a friendship origin story, talk about his experience playing the groundbreaking role of Elliot on The Magicians and debunk an internet myth that he and Stephanie are married. Roses and thorns is keeping in theme with the ep with rosy recs on what to watch, read and listen to for March 2020.
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Mar 12, 2020
Ep. 241 Science Is Magic: An Evidence Based Belief System with Sasha Sagan
Sasha Sagan, author of TSR book club fav, For Small Creatures Such as We, unpacks her view of evidence based beliefs. Covering the scientific meaning behind death, religion, ritual and even astrology. Week in Wellness talks Oprah’s definition of wellness, and Roses and Thorns celebrates a meditating Barbie and asks Dude, Where’s My Car on behalf of Elizabeth.


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Mar 09, 2020
Ep. 240 Lo Bosworth: From Reality TV to the Reality of Wellness Entrepreneurship
Started from reality TV and now bringing wellness to our local drugstore. This week's guest Lo Bosworth (Laguna beach and The Hills) drops into TSR HQ to discuss her brand ‘Love Wellness’, an amazing collection of clean personal care products for women. 

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Feb 27, 2020
Ep. 239 How to Turn Ideas Into Things: The Big Stretch With Teneshia J. Warner
Teneshia J. Warner (@teneshiajwarner), author of The Big Stretch, joins TSR HQ for an insightful conversation on the power of having a dream and the steps it takes to make that dream a reality.
Roses and Thorns: Whole 30 tips part 2, tech rehab and streaming recs (per usual).


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Feb 20, 2020
Ep. 238 Friendship, Dating, and Romance: Relationship Advice with Powerhouse Life Coach Lauren Handel Zander
Lauren Handel Zander (@laurenzander_coach) of the Handel Group (@handelgroup) brings her no-nonsense brand of life coaching expertise to the TSR table in this seasonal episode focusing on relationships;  from friendship to romance, we cover it all with the help of questions from our listeners. Roses and Thorns is a bouquet of NYC wellness discoveries: Tarot with @cardsyB, virtual reality spa with @luxuryescapism and an actual spa discovery too @abathhouse! 
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Feb 13, 2020
Ep. 237 Celebrating 5 Years With The Artist Formally Known As Wellness
It’s a bouquet of roses as Elizabeth and Stephanie celebrate 5 years of That’s So Retrograde! Join them as they take a trip down memory lane featuring past episodes and behind the scenes anecdotes from the likes of: Marianne Williamson, Andy Cohen, the founders of Lord Jones, Sarah Silverman and more.
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Feb 06, 2020
Ep. 236 Female Biohacking and Syncing your Cycle to Upgrade Your Life with Alisa Vitti
Warning: The information in this episode will change your life. Back for her third episode, female biohacker, femtech entrepreneur and legendary health leader Alisa Vitti (@floliving), joins us to chat about her new book, In The Flo: Unlock Your Hormonal Advantage and Revolutionize Your Life, which details The Cycle Syncing Method, teaching us how to align with our biological rhythms to optimize not only our health, but every other aspect of our lives from career to relationships. Roses and Thorns includes a review of Goop Lab on Netflix, an update on Steph’s musical adventures, and a reminder for all you ladies to check your breasts.


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Jan 30, 2020
Ep. 235 2020 Fitness Trends and Tips with Celeb Trainer Amy Rosoff Davis
Trainer to the stars, Amy Rosoff Davis (@amyrosoffdavis), stops in to TSR HQ to chat about her approachable philosophy to movement and self care, breaks down some of her faves, and trend forecasts the fit year ahead. Roses and Thorns is rosey with Steph’s new musical endeavors and Elizabeth’s tips for Whole30, plus the tale behind EK and Steph’s crafts getting featured in the Daily Mail.

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Jan 23, 2020
Ep. 234 New Year New Astros: 2020 Cosmic Forecast with Ambi Kavanagh
Astrologer, alchemist and fan favorite, Ambi Kavanagh joins the show to provide a celestial weather forecast for 2020. Roses and Thorns is equally astro focused featuring Ambi’s Soulstrology subscription, Debra Silverman’s Meet The Planets Video Series, and celebrating Chani Nicholas’ new book! 
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Jan 16, 2020
Ep. 233 Here 4 It: The Numerology of 2020 with Remington Donovan
Breaking down the numerology of 2020 (it’s a “four” year), with our resident numerologist, Remington Donovan (@themysticalarts). Roses and Thorns delivers the goods with Elizabeth and Steph’s top remedies  for cold and flu season including shows to binge and books to read! 
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Jan 09, 2020
Ep. 232 Wellness Trend Recap of 2019

Reiki master, friend and upcoming author Kelsey Patel joins Elizabeth and Steph recapping the wellness trends of 2019 and offering takeaways for mindfully closing off the year and the decade.


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Dec 26, 2019
Ep. 231 Redefining 'The Hustle' with Matt Gottesman of HDF Magazine
Matt Gottesman (@hdfmagazine), entrepreneur and host of the podcast, ‘Hustle Sold Separately’ is a powerful source of inspiration as he gets real about manifestation, dives deep into ideas around abundance and happily dismantles the idea of ‘grinding’. Roses and thorns come through with beverage discoveries, tech hacks, and Detroit recs! 

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Dec 19, 2019
Ep. 230 Self Concept, Self Esteem and Self Sabotage with Dr Judy Ho
Dr. Judy Ho (@drjudyho), is here and bringing her expertise in this enlightening convo. As a licensed clinical and forensic neuropsychologist and regular on the popular daytime show, The Doctors, Dr. Judy shares pearls of wisdom regarding relationship to self and offers adoptable tools for reprogramming self-sabotaging behaviors. Roses and Thorns has tools too! With important recs for how to locate your lost keys (shoutout to TILE) and a hot tip on unplugging for a Getaway (@getawayhouse)! 


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Dec 12, 2019
Ep. 229 Comic Icon Janeane Garofalo on Her Career, Current Culture and Body Image
Comic, actress and ultimate fave, Janeane Garofalo, joins Stephanie and Elizabeth for a candid convo discussing her life in comedy, the challenges with body image she has experienced within the entertainment industry and drops some never before heard intel from some of her most popular films. Roses and Thorns is all rosy with the introduction of TSR’s holiday gift guide picks paired with the announcement of a massive giveaway - check out @soretrograde’s instagram to enter #ThatsSoHoliday.


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Dec 05, 2019
Ep. 228 Holiday Beauty Break ft. The Hosts of Breaking Beauty Podcast

In honor of Thanksgiving, it’s a gratitude filled podcast crossover extravaganza with Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins, the hosts of Breaking Beauty (@breakingbeautypodcast). These industry experts join TSR HQ, highlighting their beauty picks of the moment and the revolutionary shifts currently happening in the industry. Plus: Elizabeth and Stephanie breakdown their current beauty roses too.


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Nov 28, 2019
Ep. 227 Money Money Money -Talking Financial Wellness with the Founders of Mana Financial
Christina Livadary and Stephanie Bucko are certified financial life planners bringing monetary consciousness to the forefront of our wellness routine in this important and much needed convo. Roses and Thorns comes in hot with a hair flip-  talking hair dyeing, drying and best days to get a cut according to The Farmers Almanac plus continued Shui adventures of the Marie Kondo variety.

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Nov 22, 2019
Ep. 226 Astrologer Debra Silverman On Merging Psychology and Astrology + A Deep Dive on Mercury Retrograde and Full Moon in Taurus
Gifted astrologer, Psychologist and Internet sensation, Debra Silverman, flies into TSR HQ to deliver the download on all things pertaining to our current astro climate. In a divinely timed 11/11 recording the cosmic gods brought her to us to go deep on this past Scorpio New Moon, this weeks Full Moon in Taurus, and the present energy of our friend, Mercury Retrograde (note: Steph is Scorpio, Elizabeth is Taurus and this show has Retrograde in the title!! wow.) It’s a special treat for all you Scorpions and Taureans and those who love them. Roses and Thorns comes in cute with movie recs and a shout out to doing the WORK, ala Handel Group and their Inner.U training.

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Nov 14, 2019
Ep. 225 Catt Sadler: On Journalism, Podcasting, and The Power of Knowing Where You Want To Go
Renowned celebrity journalist and friend of the show, Catt Sadler, joins E+S at TSR HQ to discuss her potent ability to manifest in the realm of career, her intrigue with wellness, and her newest podcast ‘Naked with Catt Sadler’; plus Elizabeth and Steph give a Rosy recap of Steph’s 34th birthday shenanigans! 


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Nov 07, 2019
Ep. 224 The Future of Botox, Dermal Fillers and Taking a Holistic Approach to Aging with Lisa Goodman of GoodSkin Clinics
Lisa Goodman, founder of GoodSkin Clinics (@goodskinclinics), a revolutionary bi-coastal cosmetic dermatology practice, sits down with EK + SS to describe her holistic approach to dermal fillers and mission to eliminate the “done” look one face at a time. Seasonally appropriate, in these final days of October as there’s nothing spookier than too much facial filler. Roses and Thorns is a rosy reading recc by Sasha Sagan followed by a TSR exclusive event invite with Feng Shui queen Meghan Wallace James. AND Happy bday to Steph!!


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Oct 31, 2019
Ep. 223 Building a Successful Business Meditating with Jesse Israel, founder of The Big Quiet
Making his return to TSR HQ, former music exec turned meditation leader and entrepreneur, Jesse Israel (@jesseisrael)  speaks on creating and growing The Big Quiet (@thebigquiet). What began as a small group of mediators in his living room is now the country’s largest mass meditation event.  He shares his own experiences with meditation and gives insight on mindfully crafting and monetizing a business inside the consciousness space. Roses and Thorns is elevated as Ek and SS discuss their trip to Lowell Farms Cannabis Cafe, the country’s first ever cannabis restaurant! 


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Oct 24, 2019
Ep. 222 Running for President with Marianne Williamson
Powerhouse activist, author and speaker, Marianne Williamson, is running for President of the United States. In an iconic convo that is truly one for the So Retrograde books, Marianne shares with Elizabeth and Stephanie why she’s running and what we need now as a leader for our country. Speaking on the necessity of being empowered women, voters and citizens, she educates us on our nation's history and the current political climate. Truly there’s so much to say about this special sit down and we can’t wait for you to listen.  #marianne2020.
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Oct 17, 2019
Ep. 221 An Hour with Our Favorite Wellness Influencer, Fran Drescher
Fresh off a legendary trip to NYC, Elizabeth and Steph make a rosy return to LA and head to Malibu to visit the flashiest girl from Flushing, Fran Drescher!!!  (Also now known as the new official Guru and MD to That’s So Retrograde). In this fun and informative discussion, Fran goes deep on her mission to transform American citizens into “informed wellness consumers” through her work with her organization Cancer Schmancer, talks turning her own pain into her purpose, and offers TSR listeners an invite to her  upcoming wellness summit in Los Angeles. 


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Oct 10, 2019
Ep. 220 Honoring ABORTION AF with Trailblazer Lizz Winstead

Steph and Elizabeth cozy up in a NYC studio for an inspired conversation with accomplished comic, writer, radio personality, and founder of Abortion AF, Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead). Lizz educates on the real red tape around accessibility to abortion and womens healthcare and lays down the framework for what we can do to help. Roses and Thorns is more like a giant shiny apple as the girls wax grateful on all things NYC. Special shout out to Gotham Podcast Studio, Sirius XM, and Caroline’s on Broadway for making all our interview dreams come true. 

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Oct 04, 2019
Ep. 219 Super Attract~ing with Gabby Bernstein
TSR takes NYC and sit down with celebrated speaker and coach Gabrielle Bernstein to go deep on her new book Super Attractor. A self proclaimed “shame shifter”, Gabby vulnerably opens up about her experience with postpartum depression and the importance of calling in “special agents” for healing. Roses and thorns is a celebration of the Big Apple, the excellence of the Unplug mediation app AND we are doing a major giveaway in the form of a logo design with our friends at Dreamer Marketing House.
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Sep 26, 2019
Ep. 218 Reading (Your Aura) For Filth with Mikey Domitrovich
Spirit Guide to the show Mikey Domitrovich (@ediblespirit) is back at TSR HQ for an exciting conversation on the changing of the seasonal guards known as the Fall Equinox. Then, in proper back to school fashion Mikey gives us a lesson on ’The Claires’, giving us a how to on identifying Clairvoyance, Clairsentience, Claircognizance and Claireaudience. And finally, IT'S A READ as Steph and Elizabeth get their auras read on air as Mikey demonstrates his latest mystical endeavor, AURAPICS.
Also covered in this ep: The movie Hustlers and how it relates to the Ekam World Peace Festival, live readings of Real Housewives of NY and Marianne Williamson presidential bid.
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Sep 19, 2019
Ep. 217 September Issues with Elizabeth and Stephanie
By listener request it's a solo episode with TSR’s hosts (@elizabethkott + @ssimbari), answering audience questions, while highlighting some current roses and a few thorns. Multiple issues are covered in this intimate convo, including: wellness fails, TMJ remedies, vision board party tips, spiritual burnout, igniting self confidence, clairvoyant training, overcoming dating hang-ups,  BH90210, clean beauty recs (Odacite and Olaplex), and recycling thorns. If you have a question for TSR that you would like covered on a future episode, email

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Sep 12, 2019
Ep. 216 Your Healer's Favorite Healer with Physiotherapist Cliff Matsuno

A prolific wellness discovery in the TSR Universe has been made in the form of physiotherapist, Cliff Matsuno. A healer in every sense of the word, he sits down with Steph and Elizabeth, sharing his naturalist POV (where science meets humanism), and discusses his findings on how minimizing stress and maximizing awareness aids in overall health and wellbeing. Roses and Thorns is on theme with a hot list of some of E and S's favorite healers that they are currently working with on the regular.

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Sep 05, 2019
Ep. 215 Dripping Yourself in Sacred Art with Jewelry Designer Joy Smith

COMMUNION by Joy’s, Joy Smith (@communionbyjoy), sits down with Stephanie and Elizabeth to talk about the creativity, intentionality and spirituality she infuses into her much celebrated fine jewelry creations. In her own words, the line is "sacred art worn by the modern mystic and warrior".  Roses and thorns is joyful in its own right with Elizabeth tapping into her newly found love for animals and Steph has some rosy recs for adorning your ears with a different kind of pleasure, podcasts and morning shows. 


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Aug 29, 2019
Ep. 214 Creating a Fitness Empire with LEKFIT's Lauren Kleban
Celebrity trainer, LEK Fit founder, and TSR personal fave, Lauren Kleban (@LEKfit), joins the show to discuss the creation and steady growth of her massively popular dance inspired fitness method. She expands on the benefits of bouncing on a rebounder, the democratization of fitness through online streaming, and the ups and downs of growing a brand from an idea that began in her garage, into a thriving business. Roses and Thorns is a rosey bouquet of Stephanie’s fave cannabis products and Elizabeth’s current skin roses. 
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Aug 22, 2019
Ep. 213 Shui Therapy with Meghan Wallace James
It’s Shui Day part III as we revisit the practice of Feng Shui, with our resident consultant, Meghan Wallace James (@megan.wallace.james). Using sourced listener questions we go deep on shared space, Bagua specifics, desk shui, color shui and creating space that leads to thriving optimally on the daily. Roses and Thorns is Elizabeth and Steph’s shui confessions and bed shui developments with some garage conundrums and bedroom wins in the form of Etsy finds (@softframe), comforter recs (@Buffy) and a forward thinking organic sheet subscription discovery (@coyuchi).
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Aug 16, 2019
Ep. 212 Elizabeth & Steph Answer Listener Questions + Guest Comedian Ian Edwards
It's a rosy bouquet of listener generated questions answered by the show’s hosts, Elizabeth & Stephanie; offering their take on pursuing new careers, Nutritional Muscle Testing and CBD. Then, comedian and friend, Ian Edwards joins the show for an editorial highlight of his new and innovative comedy special, Bill Burr Presents IanTalk: Ideas Not Worth Spreading.
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Aug 08, 2019
Ep. 211 The Heartbreak Coach - A Listener Q & A Chatting All Things Heartbreak
We’ve got Claire Byrne, aka The Heartbreak Coach dropping by TSR HQ to answer listener questions re: all things heartbreak: friendship, dating, relationship, post - relationship, it's all here in this candid and wise conversation. Roses and thorns in a full on rose bouquet as Elizabeth and Steph recap their magical visit to Arizona.
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Aug 01, 2019
Ep. 210 Sex, Birth Control, Pregnancy, and Periods: Erica Chidi Cohen Answers Listener Questions
Erica Chidi Cohen, co-founder + CEO of Los Angeles women's health education center LOOM, and author of the book Nurture;  returns to the show to answer listener-generated questions from periods to pregnancy and everything in between. Roses and Thorns come through with a new meditation suggestion from Steph and we've got an 'Ask Falcon' regarding making new friends in the digital age. 
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Jul 25, 2019
Ep. 209 Sophia Bush on Activism, Adulting, Detroit Blows and What’s Cool For The Summer

Informed queen, Sophia Bush, is back for her third visit to TSR HQ. She brings along her post-birthday wisdom, an open heart and chats about being the co-founder of Detroit Blows, in this fun friendship- focused catch-up. Roses and Thorns explores the mindful world of rented clothing and Zac Efron. Q: is he for rent? Let us know.


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Jul 18, 2019
Ep. 208 Learning about Somatic Therapy and Mercier Massage for Reproductive Health and Healing w/ Rachel Cole, Psychotherapist and Body Worker
Licensed Psychotherapist and gifted healer, Rachel Cole, LCSW, SEP - beams into the TSR HQ and educates on the benefits of two therapies we don’t know much about. What is Mercier Massage and why do we need it? Somatic healing? We wanna know more! Shaking and crying and grounding with joy as we learn strengthen our relationship to self through the mind body connection -  as Rachel puts it: "“What we are working on is building your capacity to be with life, both the pleasant and the unpleasant” and we are here for it. Roses and thorns are tech cleanse updates, Hint: Elizabeth is off Instagram and onto Marianne Williamson think pieces. Namastayin' on our phones, y/n?
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Jul 12, 2019
Ep. 207 Summer Astros Roundup - Eclipses, Retrogrades and the Need For A Tech Cleanse with Astrologer Ambi Kavanagh
Cosmic mama and treasured So Retrograde guest, Ambi Kavanagh, is back to download us all with what to expect when we’re expecting major planetary shifts. It’s summer and it is eclipse season and retrogrades are everywhere. She gives insight on how to manage, what to look out for and how to deal - in this cosmically focused episode. Plus! Lots of rosey reccs for your summer vacay from some fave former guests: Ambi’s new Soulstolgy Membership Website, No Crumbs Left has a cookbook, Dr. Deepika Chopra’s Optimism Deck and Kelsey Patel’s new podcast! P.S don’t forget to come see SS + EK in Phoenix on July 25! And P.P.S. TSR’s Social Media Cleanse is July 5-10, see ya!
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Jul 04, 2019
Ep. 206 Life Coach Lauren Zander on Manifesting vs. Manif*cking and How to Human Better
Coach, author and master seer, Lauren Zander of the Handel Group, is back at the So Retrograde HQ speaking on her concept of manifucking vs. manifesting and getting super real with Steph + Elizabeth about where they need to human better. It gets a little emotional, but hey... we’re here learning, with homework and all! Things get rosy later in the show with a fun announcement: Steph + Elizabeth are hitting the road! Get tickets now for their live show on 7/25 in Phoenix, AZ. AND get ready to put those phones down because TSR’s Social Media Cleanse is happening July 5-10. Also discussed: eye updates and product cleanses.
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Jun 29, 2019
Ep. 205 Summer Beaut! Summer Beauty Recs from Natch Beaut’s Jackie Johnson

It’s once again time for some podcast crossover magic with the hilarious beaut Jackie Johnson of Natch Beaut! She shares her master list of natural beauty recommendations for the summer months and the girls chime in with some fun discoveries of their own.

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Jun 20, 2019
Ep. 204 Meet Us At Craig’s - Plant Based Fine Dining & Desserts from LA's Hottest Restaurant w/ Craig Susser
LA dining institution, Craig’s, is a go-to spot for Steph and Elizabeth - making it a treat to have Craig Susser, head of the establishment on the show. He pulls back the curtain on his impressive run in the restaurant industry, talking smart tactics and an enlightened approach to getting into the plant forward menu game. All in celebration of the launch of his vegan frozen dessert line, Craig’s Vegan. Also discussed: LA Pride wrap up, a NYT opp ed and Roses and Thorns reclaims its place at the end of the show.
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Jun 13, 2019
Ep. 203 Ben Gleib: A Very Serious Conversation with a Comedian Running for President
Veteran comic, friend to the show and long time political commentator, Ben Gleib, is back on TSR to talk politics. This time, he is discussing the call in his heart to no longer just speak about the political landscape but to change it, by running for President in 2020. Later, Steph and Elizabeth put on their democratic hats and shout out some new wellness discoveries currently on their radar. 
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Jun 06, 2019
Ep. 202 Nikki Novo: Getting To The Final Swipe with The Advice of An Intuitive Dating Coach
Steph and Elizabeth continue to go deep and personal on the topic of dating and relationships with guest, Nikki Novo (@nikkinovo), an intuitive dating coach, author of The Final Swipe and extremely talented medium. Nikki drops into the TSR Universe and speaks about connecting with self, calling upon our guides and refining our intuition when it comes to the mindful world of dating and romantic partnership. Also, if you have ever wondered what a spirit guide may look like - we have some intel for you. 

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May 30, 2019
Ep. 201 Erin Claire Jones: Human Design For Productivity & Partnership in the Workplace
Human Design Guide and Leadership Coach, Erin Claire Jones, drops into the TSR Universe to go deeper on the main types of Human Design, explaining how we can apply this wisdom to our lives and maximize our workplace potential. Also, TSR bffs, Chelsea Foster  (@chelseannat) and Emily Althaus (@emliyalthaus) join the fun for a post 200th episode party wrap up and some roses and thorns.
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May 23, 2019
Ep. 200 That’s So Retrograde 200th Episode Extravaganza with John Hill
In celebration of the 200th episode, icon and radio host, John Arthur Hill (, visits the studio and turns the tables on TSR’s beloved hosts, going deep (and shallow) with Elizabeth and Stephanie on the origin story of their friendship, the podcast and some key moments and lessons gleaned from the past 4.5 years of doing the show. Special guests include - comedian Amy Phillips and famed Roses and Thorns appropriator, Andy Cohen.
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May 16, 2019
Ep. 199 Intimacy and Relationships and the Tools To Talk About Them w/ Jared Matthew Weiss
Are you open to a conversation about sex and intimacy? Then this is the episode for you. Steph and Elizabeth welcome Jared Matthew Weiss to the TSR Universe to discuss his wildly popular town hall, Touchpoint, a NYC based forum that fosters a safe place for conversations around love and sex. JMW shares the tools he has learned from hosting these conversations; illuminating how to dialogue about what is traditionally considered taboo. Also in this ep: Met Gala moments, Elizabeth meets The Countess and Steph gives us a match making update.
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May 09, 2019
Ep. 198 Eat Clean, Play Dirty; Exploring a plant based lifestyle with Sakara Life's Founders
If being a plant based influencer is a thing, the founders of Sakara Life certainly have the market cornered. Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome the bad ass bootstrapping duo that is Whitney Tingle and Danielle DuBoise back to TSR HQ some 3+ years after their first sit down. The ladies open up about their new cookbook "Eat Clean, Play Dirty” and give us a window into their current focus is in the world of health and nutrition. 
Listen to our first episode with Whitney and Danielle here!
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May 02, 2019
Ep. 197 Whitney Port: On Wellness, Motherhood and Returning to The Hills

When Whitney Port sits down in the TSR HQ you know two things will be discussed: her experience with reality TV (pretty sure we have some exclusives here) and of course... that word we need another word for, “wellness”; In this case, how grief pivoted her into leveling up her focus on self care. Whitney remains candid, chatting motherhood, her experience with mean moms and as an LA native, she offers up some fun recommendations (p.s TSR LA guide coming soon). If you are a Lady Baby who considers reality television part of your wellness practice (cough cough, Elizabeth), you have come to the right place. AND don’t forget a rosy recap in celebration Elizabeth’s birthday weekend. Welcome to Taurus Season baby!

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Apr 25, 2019
Ep. 196 Cannabis Education and CBD Celebration with The Founders Of Miss Grass
In celebration of our favorite green holiday we open a discussion on the evolving and vast cannabis landscape by turning to’s founders, Anna Duckworth and Kate Miller. These ladies inform TSR about the complex plant in all her glory, answer our burning CBD queries, and join us in de-stigmatizing cannabis usage. 
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Apr 18, 2019
Ep. 195 The Optimism Doctor: Evidence Based Manifestation and The Science of Optimism
Science meets magic as Dr. Deepika Chopra, Optimism Doctor and visual imagery expert, talks about the science behind manifestation. Offering some practices and tools prescribed to her patients that help shift limiting beliefs and put us into alignment with our truest desires. aka: how to call it in sis...scientifically speaking. Follow our guest: @drdeepikachopra
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Apr 11, 2019
Ep. 194 Work Wife: How to Bring the Joy of Female Friendships into the Workplace

Erica Cerulo and Claire Mazur (founders of Of A Kind, hosts of A few Things Podcast and authors of new book, Work Wife), sit down with Stephanie and Elizabeth to discuss what it takes to start and run a business with your best friend. These two pairings go deep on their interpersonal relationships and how they are reflected in their day to day business success. 

Apr 04, 2019
Ep. 193 Lisa Gainsley, Lympho-manic: Talking All Things Lymphatic Health
Lymphatic Drainage is at the top of TSR's list when it comes to buzzy wellness practices and sitting down to educate beyond the trend is Certified Lymphedema Therapist, Lisa Gainsley, expertly answering all of the Ladies' lymph related queries (If you've got lymph questions of your own follow Lisa, @thelymphaticmessage). And later, Elizabeth and Steph dive into another Rosy round listener questions (If you have questions for us to be featured on the show - DM us @soretrograde).


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Mar 28, 2019
Ep. 192 Erin Foster: On Dating, Mental Health, Career and Yes, Wellness

Erin Foster (writer, actress, and a fun follow on Instagram) hits guru status at the TSR HQ as she shares some life lessons and doles out some mindful advice in the realms of dating, mental health, fertility and career.

Later it's a rosy first week of Spring with another installment of 'Lady Baby Takes Trader Joe’s' and an Ask Falcon pertaining to moving to Los Angeles in your 30s. 
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Mar 21, 2019
Ep. 191 Michael Domitrovich: Spiritually Snached for Spring
Michael Domitrovich aka @EdibleSpirit, the Snatch Daddy of TSR, returns to the Mothership to spill the cosmic tea on Mercury Retrograde, Pisces Season, the upcoming Spring Equinox and puts on his impressive channeling hat doing psychic readings for our call in listeners!


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Mar 14, 2019
Ep. 190 Amina Altai: #Boyboss
Amina Altai, conscious business advisor, illuminates the episode with some practical insight on aligning mind, body and business while harnessing our inner (boy) boss. Continuing to serialize their present personal experiences, Steph updates us on her quest to consciously couple, while Elizabeth shares how she consciously uncoupled from the apartment where TSR was conceived.


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Mar 07, 2019
Ep. 189 Devon Cajuste: New Crystal Friend

Devon Cajuste, former NFL tight end and current energy healer joins the show to discuss his connections to the football field and the universal energy field. He shares with us how he communes with spirit and offers up some solid crystal recommendations. Okay fine we’ll take him under our tiny wings, since you begged us to! Things get rosey as Elizabeth looks forward to a new chapter and Steph is deep in to the chapters of the greatest dating book of all time as she learns what it’s like to date in the 90’s.


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Feb 28, 2019
Ep. 188 Ruby Warrington: Sober Curious Curiosity

Author Ruby Warrington leads this weeks episode with a curious mind around alcohol consumption. As founder of celebrated astrological portal, The Numinous, and author of Material Girl, Mystical World, her latest book, Sober Curious unpacks our societal and personal behaviors around drinking and how it aligns (or doesn’t ) with one’s spiritual quest. Elizabeth and Steph answer listener questions and give some fun announcements too.

Feb 21, 2019
Ep. 187 Girls Gotta Eat: Girls Gotta Retrograde: Dating Cycles and Moon Cycles
'Girls Gotta Eat' Hosts, Ashley and Rayna stop by TSR HQ for this sexy yet distinctly non-Valentine’s Day centric episode. The ladies chat dating escapades in the modern era and try to glean some lessons along the way. Elizabeth and Steph re-live some tales of their own and in the most mensch-y of moments, Elizabeth’s parents drop by with some rosey advice.


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Feb 14, 2019
Ep. 186 Nicole Sachs: Chronic Pain and The Mind Body Connection

Nicole Sachs (psychotherapist, author, and founder of, joins Elizabeth and Stephanie for their 4th year birthday show, to discuss the power of the mind body connection as a pathway to healing. Updates: Elizabeth is out of her house and Steph tries to get a boyfriend. A birthday celebration indeed! code: retrograde


Feb 07, 2019
Ep. 185 We’re Bulletproof, Nothing to Lose (guest: Dave Asprey)

Dave Asprey joins the show to bless the TSR Universe with some bio hacking knowledge on brain optimization. Nicotine, Nootropics and butter coffee, oh my! Later, get rosy with some lady baby tips on food findings, TMJ relief and oral hygiene, lol we said oral.


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Jan 31, 2019
Ep. 184 Cosmeceuticals and Cosmic Journeys (guests: Ambi Kavanaugh and Michael Pollak)
Going deep on two categories of main importance in the That's So Retrograde Universe -Skin and Astrology - Stephanie and Elizabeth sit down with Heyday co-founder Michael Pollak and Astrologer extraordinaire, Ambi Kavanaugh, for this illuminating show recorded live at Heyday Skincare in Los Angeles
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Jan 24, 2019
Ep. 183 Feel Good Episode (guest: Hannah Bronfman)
In celebration of her new book, Do What Feels Good, entrepreneur, Influencer (and new TSR  BFF), Hannah Bronfman, stops by the TSR HQ.  The result is an episode full of inspirational insight and takeaway tips covering skin care, nutrition, exercise and beyond, all honoring the importance of the concept: do what feels good for YOU. Speaking of you…also discussed in this ep: Netflix shows, water picks and listener feedback. 
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Jan 17, 2019
Ep. 182 Happy Three Year! (guest: Remington Donovan)
It's the first show of 2019 as Steph and Elizabeth welcome back mystical artist and numerologist, Remington Donovan, to enlighten us all on the numerological blessings of this new year and its number 3! Time to boss up baby because this years’ energy supports you stepping up to the plate after all the hard work you put in last year. The show wraps with some rosey discoveries and new years intentions- kicking this year off to an exciting and mindful start. Aho!
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Jan 10, 2019
Ep. 181 A Toast (and a Roast) to 2018 (guest: Jeff Ross)
Beloved Roastmaster General and friend to the show, Jeff Ross, sits down with Steph and Elizabeth to look back on the the top wellness trends of 2018. It’s rosy and roasty as they reflect on the lessons of the past year and bid adieu to 2018 with gratitude and glee.
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Dec 27, 2018
Ep. 180 Sage The Halls (guests: Ambi Kavanaugh and Kelsey Patel)
It's a TSR All-Star Holiday Party as Steph and Elizabeth are joined by their friends and guides: Astrologer, Ambi Kavanaugh and Reiki Master, Kelsey Patel. Together they celebrate the end of this expansive and challenging year and muse on tools to manage stress during the holidays. It's a true bash with astro downloads that help bring mindful closure to 2018, and be sure to pull over because we have an EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) series to shift your vibe as we de stress our way into the holidays.
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Dec 20, 2018
Ep. 179 The Wildest Unknown (guest: Kim Krans)
Artist and creator of The Wild Unknown, Kim Krans, drops into the studio for a mindful chat on awakening the artist within. As big fans of both her Tarot deck and Animal Spirit deck, Steph & Elizabeth are excited to discover Kim’s newest magical offering, The Wild Unknown Journal; an interactive book encouraging each of us to tap into our labyrinth of creativity. Color us into it! Later, it’s what you’ve all been waiting for: Elizabeth and Stephanie’s So Retrograde Approved Holiday Gift Guide - a rosy bouquet of suggestions for your 2018 gift giving/receiving needs. 

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Dec 13, 2018
Ep. 178 Cool for the Holiday (guest: Dr. Deganit Nuur)
Spirit guide to the show, Dr. Deganit Nuur, visits the TSR Universe, illuminating her unique approach of blending acupuncture with clairvoyant readings and provides practical suggestions for surviving the holidays - with tips on fine tuning in our intuition, manifestation tools and self care routines. Honoring the theme of self care guidance, Stephanie and Elizabeth share their top self care selects of the moment. In this week's Roses and Thorns, the ladies shed light on a Secret HQ success story and top it all off with some current TV and reading recs, because... wellness.
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Dec 06, 2018
Ep. 177 Live at the New York Comedy Festival (guests: Stephanie Simbari & Elizabeth Kott)

Join Elizabeth and Steph as they travel back in time to their 11/11 New York Comedy Festival show, live at Union Hall in Brooklyn. Expect revelations, meditations and a whole lot of laughter as they collectively channel their inner Oprahs and turn the tables to interview one another. Later, Dr. Daganit Nuur joins the stage to lead the crowd in a visualization exercise to illuminate the manifestation properties of 11/11. Meditation in a bar? Check! #soretrograde

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Nov 29, 2018
Ep. 176 Thanks On Me (guest: LaRayia Gaston)
In celebration of Thanksgiving week, Stephanie and Elizabeth sit down with activist, artist and ‘Lunch On Me’ founder, LaRayia Gaston. In this heart-expanding conversation, LaRayia illuminates and inspires discussing her mission to end homelessness one meal at a time.
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Nov 21, 2018
Ep. 175 Thanksgiving, Next (guest: No Crumbs Left)
Foodie, mystic cook, renowned Whole30/Gluten Free food blogger and Elizabeth’s favorite Internet celebrity, Teri Turner, of 'No Crumbs Left', sits down with TSR for a Thanksgiving-centric convo. The gals discuss coming into your calling later in life, listening to the universe, social media hacks, and of course some culinary insight for the upcoming holiday! Later, it's a Rosy recap of Stephanie and Elizabeth’s recent jaunt to New York (shout out to the New York Comedy Festival)!! Please see links below for where to donate to the LA Fire Department and families in need.
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Nov 15, 2018
EP. 174 Cosmic Catch Up (guest: Ambi Kavanagh)
Post election vibes surely call for an Astro forecast! Thus, the ladies welcome back Ambi Kavanaugh, of Alchemy with Ambi, to shine light on the current cosmic climate. Then, it’s a floral crystal grid of roses as Elizabeth and Stephanie recap their eventful week: Steph’s birthday celebrations, some lady baby nights on the town, eye updates and podcast recommendations for your listening pleasure. PLUS, Steph and Elizabeth are headed back to New York this week for two exciting events, see below for the where’s the the when’s!

New York appearances:

Live Show: 11/11: 5 pm @ Union Hall, 702 Union St, Brooklyn, NY 11215

Meet up: 11/12: 5 pm @ Airs Champagne Parlor, 127 Macdougal Street, Greenwhich Village, NY 10012

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Nov 08, 2018
Ep. 173 Happy Not Perfect (guest: Poppy Jamie)
First things first, let’s encourage our democracy to be ‘happy not perfect’ by getting out to VOTE Tuesday, November 6!! Secondly, beam of light, Poppy Jamie enters the TSR Universe this week to discuss and celebrate her mental health initiative, Happy Not Perfect. Later, Roses and Thorns pays tribute to the magic of the Wellspring Festival in Palm Springs.
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Nov 01, 2018
Ep.172 Pumpkin Time (guest: Mya Spalter)

It’s Halloween time and Mya Spalter, author of ‘Enchantments: A Modern Witch’s Guide to Self-Possession’, is in the studio to provide some wise, witchy and welcoming insight on living a magical existence. Plus! A rosy listener Q + A, Halloween costume tips from your favorite Lady Babies and general tricks and treats - giving everyone a little somethin somethin to put on their alter this pumpkin-centric season. Namaste Enchanted!

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Oct 25, 2018
Ep. 171 That’s So Venus in Retrograde *Beauty Week Part II* (guest: Tiila Abbitt)
In honor of Venus in Retrograde, TSR’s Beauty Week is in full swing with episode 2 of 2. Stephanie and Elizabeth are joined by Tiila Abbitt, former head of R+D for sustainable materials at Sephora and current founder of Aether Beauty, for a conversation on sustainability within the beauty space. Aether’s first product, an eyeshadow palette, is one of the most forward thinking new beauty discoveries within the TSR universe. In celebration of this creation, the women have a thought provoking and illuminating conversation regarding packaging, waste, composition and ideologies within the makeup industry and consumer behavior as a whole.
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Oct 23, 2018
Ep. 170 Natch Retrograde (guest: Jackie Johnson)

It's beauty week! The “shock jock of beauty” herself, Jackie Johnson, of the Natch Beaut Podcast, joins the TSR universe, giving a breakdown of all her product obsessions of the moment from the fanciest of face oils to humidifiers. Steph and Elizabeth jump in for a rose filled bouquet of reccs offering up their personal beauty related favorites of the season. Reminder: TSR will be back in NYC on 11/11 at Union Hall, get your tickets while you still can!

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Oct 18, 2018
Ep. 169 A Workout Is Born (guest: Stephen Pasterino)
It's physical fitness day at The So Retrograde HQ! Steph and Elizabeth sit down with personal trainer and P. Volve founder, Stephen Pasterino, to talk about the workout he specifically created to optimize the muscle response of the female body. Coupled with this convo are some rosy workout recs for the LA homie and everyone call in sick because seeing A Star Is Born and crying to the soundtrack is the unanimous rose of the moment.
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Oct 11, 2018
Ep. 168 Break Up With Your Bullsh*t Rules (guests: Kelsey Patel and Ryan Weiss)
Fresh off an invigorating trip to NYC, Elizabeth and Stephanie sit down with two of their BFFs who also happen to be incredible healers; Kelsey Patel and Ryan Weiss. The foursome chat Kelsey and Ryan's new limited podcast series and course, Break Up With Your Bullsh*t, and in a wellness podcast *EXCLUSIVE*, we hear first hand Kelsey's perspective on what really went down with her appearance on Vanderpump Rules. It’s a Rosy NYC round up where SS and EK chat *bread tour 2018* and their latest stint on Bravo’s Watch What Happens Live!
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Oct 04, 2018
Ep. 167: That’s So Retrograde Live! In NYC (guest: Alexandra Roxo)
Elizabeth and Stephanie take New York for their first ever NYC live show at Union Hall in Brooklyn. Joining them on stage is listener fave and coach, Alexandra Roxo, who chats channeling the Divine feminine in congruence with welcoming in the Fall Equinox. Plus a comedy opening by Jamar Neighbors. Very special thanks to Shape House - the first 100 people to mention TSR in NYC get a free sweat (code: retrosweat2)
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Sep 27, 2018
Ep 166: Walk This Shui (guest: Meghan Wallace James)
Its Feng Shui Day Part Deux!  In this follow-up hour, dedicated entirely to listener questions regarding Feng Shui, Stephanie and Elizabeth welcome back their personal guide on the subject, Meghan Wallace James, to answer questions and ultimately shed light on how to turn your space into a “living vision board".  
p.s. Don’t forget to tune into Bravo’s Watch What Happens Live on Tuesday 9/25 to see the ladies guest bartend for the 2nd time!
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Sep 21, 2018
Ep 165: Human Designing Women (guest: Jenna Zoe)
The day is finally here! Jenna Zoe, Human Design zealot and UK based cosmic queen drops in to the studio to chat all things Human Design! It’s like astrology on steroids and a fun deep dive not to be missed. The ladies also address some listeners Q’a and give an update regarding their upcoming live shows on the east coast.
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Sep 14, 2018
Ep 164: Retrograde Fashion Week (guest: Brad Goreski):
Celebrity Stylist, red carpet pro and friend to the show, Brad Goreski, graces the TSR Universe in perfect step with NY Fashion Week and the upcoming Emmys. He illuminates the space with Fall fashion recs, while sharing his thoughts on career, mindfulness and self care. Meanwhile, Elizabeth and Steph provide their own rosy seasonal recs and wish a Happy Virgo season and Jewish New Year to all (and p.s. a very special birthday shout out to the woman who without none of this could happen, Elizabeth’s mom)! 

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Sep 13, 2018
Ep 163: Drunk Astrology (guest: Aliza Kelly)

Astrologer and author, Aliza Kelly, drops into the TSR stratosphere providing a post-retrograde cosmic update for the autumn months. Then, Aliza gets us drunk on knowledge as she breaks down the crucial aspects of drinking for your astro sign from her new book the Mixology of Astrology: Cosmic Cocktails and Recipes For Every Sign.

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Sep 06, 2018
Ep 162: Ketotarianism (guest: Dr. Will Cole)
Functional medicine rockstar and TSR favorite, Dr. Will Cole, re-visits the show to discuss his plant based keto concept and launch of his new book, Ketotarian. Later, Elizabeth and Stephanie answer listener questions and highlight some recent rosy happenings by way of adventures in crafting and bouncy manifestations turned realities.
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Aug 31, 2018
Ep 161: Dumb Gay Politics and Music Also (guests: Julie Goldman, Brandy Howard, Kassia Conway)
It’s the politically inclined, musically infused, bonus TSR episode of your dreams! Stephanie and Elizabeth welcome friends, Julie Goldman and Brandy Howard, of the podcast, Dumb Gay Politics, to discuss wtf is going on with our democracy these days. Later, musician Kassia Conway joins the show to discuss her new single and the mindful movement behind it. Keeping in theme, this episode is complete with rosey recs of a political nature and who to bop to as the Summer nears its end. Plus listener questions answered!
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Aug 28, 2018
Ep 160: Who What Retrograde (guest: Hillary Kerr)
Mercury Retrograde has reached its finale for the season; Stephanie and Elizabeth rejoice with an inspiring convo featuring 'Who What Wear' co-founder and 'Second Life' podcast host, Hillary Kerr. Talking career paths, pivots and more! Also discussed: the need for fall interns (hiii), social media cleanses and some fun listener Q+A!
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Aug 23, 2018
Ep 159: The Third Door (guest: Alex Banayan)
It’s a threesome of conversation with author and friend Alex Banayan, as he explains his journey to writing his book, The Third Door. An inspiring and practical tale for anyone looking to take the road (or the door) less traveled. The ladies also muse on remedies for the summer flu, how to identify when your makeup expires, and shout outs to upcoming live shows and podcast appearances.
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Aug 17, 2018
Ep 158: Live! At Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles (guest: Shannon Aganza)
It’s the final stop on TSR's Mini Summer Tour as the girls bring the Retrograde party (literally) to the ultra cool Dynasty Typewriter Theatre in Los Angeles. Opening the show with special guests:  Kassia Conway, singing her rendition of the TSR theme and comic Julie Goldman bringing the house down with some laughs. The ladies then welcome astrologer, Shannon Aganza, to the stage to break down all that is going on during this cosmically-fueled summer: going deep on retrogrades, America’s current natal chart happenings and an audience Q + A !
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Aug 09, 2018
Ep 157: Live! At The Grove in Los Angeles (guest: Kelly LeVeque)

The ladies continue their summer tour with a live show at Los Angeles’s premiere spot for wellness in the form of retail therapy, The Grove. Joining Elizabeth and Stephanie is nutritionist to the stars and our hearts, Kelly LeVeque. Plus, comedian Nicole Aimee Schreiber brings the laughter and musical artist GLNNA opens the show with her rendition of TSR’s theme song.

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Aug 02, 2018
Ep 156: Maybe It’s Us (guest: Lauren Handel Zander)

Life coach extraordinaire, Lauren Handel Zander, co-founder of the much celebrated life coaching method, The Handel Group, and author of Maybe It’s You: Cut the Crap, Face Your Fears, Love Your Life, visits the TSR universe to go deep with the ladies. Also, Elizabeth and Steph answer listener questions, discuss the cosmos (obv) and muse on their current live tour. 

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Jul 29, 2018
Ep 155: Live! from Washington D.C at The Kennedy Center (guests: Emily Todebush and Casey Balsham)

In this special live recording, Elizabeth and Stephanie take the stage at the prestigious Kennedy Center as part of The District of Comedy Festival in Washington D.C. Comedian, Casey Balsham,kicks off the evening, bringing some top of show laughs. Then, being in the nation’s capital, the show gets appropriately political as healthcare advocate (and childhood bestie of Elizabeth), Emily Todebush, takes the stage to inform and inspire on how to take action in these politically interesting times.

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Jul 25, 2018
EP 154: Feng Shui Day (guest: Meghan Wallace James)

It’s a true full circle moment as Stephanie and Elizabeth revisit the first ever topic explored on TSR, Feng Shui! With their personal spaces newly transformed, they welcome goddess and Feng Shui facilitator, Meghan Wallace James to muse on her modern Feng Shui perspective. Questions on mirror placement, cacti, and maximizing your space galore! Listener questions and Rosey shout outs complete this transformational conversation. Happy Shui Day ya'll!

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Jul 19, 2018
EP 153: The One with the Microbiome (guests: Ara Katz and Raja Dhir)

At long last, TSR gets better acquainted with wellness buzzword and our bodies HBIC - the Microbiome. Welcoming Raja Dhir and Ara Katz, founders of the newly launched, Seed, to the show they drop serious knowledge on the microbiome and enlighten us on the do’s and dont’s of probiotics. For more information on the microbiome and Seed, check out

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Jul 14, 2018
EP 152: CBD ASAP (guests: Jon and Jesse Stanley)

Fresh from a little summer vacay, the ladies get better acquainted with a new friend, CBD. They welcome Jon and Jesse Stanley, two of the founders of the Colorado based OG CBD empire, Charlotte's Web, to enlighten hearts and minds and unpack this developing trend. Also, is ROSES all day as Elizabeth and Steph muse on new, possibly questionable modes of transportation, the antiquated use of plastic straws and dating life stuff.

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Jul 12, 2018
EP 151: Summer Essential (Oils) (guest: Sara Panton)

It’s a summer beauty extravaganza! Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome Sara Panton, of Vitruvi, to the TSR universe to help us explore the wild world of essential oils! Want hacks? Tricks? We got you! And exciting news, Vitruvi, made its way into the aisles of Sephora this summer, making it the first essential oil company to hit the mainstream market. Speaking of those blessed aisles, Roses and Thorns comes in with the essentials as the ladies share their fave Rosey picks for summer beauty rituals!

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Jun 29, 2018
EP 150: Full Circle Moment (guest: Andrea Bendawald)

With a long standing interest in the ceremonial art of circling, Elizabeth and Stephanie, welcome mama goddess, circle facilitator, actress and founder of "The Art Of Circling", Andrea Bendewald, to the show! Andrea guides E+S into the depths of how to hold space in this ancient mindfulness ritual. Later, in honor of another mindfulness practice, television watching - the ladies share their rosey must watch picks for Summer, perfect for you circle up to the TV and enjoy a seasonal bingesesh. Ah ho! 


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Jun 28, 2018
EP 149: That Genius Life (Guest: Max Lugavere)
Food and nutrition journalist and author of Genius Foods, Max Lugavere drops into the studio with a bevy of knowledge of how food affects our brains. He myth busts common food misnomers and uses a lot of big scientific words! Roses are all about collaboration this week as the girls celebrate podcasters on podcasts (DenTALKS and Balanced Blonde Podcast) and things get Thorny with parents hash tagging on Facebook. #yikes
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Jun 21, 2018
EP 148: Dear Diary (guest: Katie Dalebout)

Dear Diary, 

We’re so excited because a bonus episode is in the cards! The ladies welcome podcaster, journaler and Internet friend, Kate Dalebout; of Let it Out to the show to talk all things journaling. Annnnd Bonus, Bonus!!...Elizabeth and Steph introduce two NEW  segments for your Namaste listening pleasure.

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Jun 16, 2018
EP 147: New Moon Gathering (guest Shannon Aganza)
#147: New Moon Gathering


Astro Alert! In this episode, Stephanie and Elizabeth become one with cosmos and commune with spirit mama, astro goddess extrordinaire, Shannon Aganza aka Moon Gathering. Shannon offers a cosmic download as we gear up for a trifecta of upcoming summer Retrogrades; this episode drops just in time for today’s New Moon and answers the age old question: What’s up with your your anus jk URANUS. Speaking of anus’s Roses and Thorns talks strip clubs and butt plugs, gravity blankets, neighbor complaints and continued Feng Shui adventures.
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Jun 14, 2018
EP 146: The Adderall Episode (guest: Vanessa Fitzgerald)

Elizabeth and Stephanie sit down with holistic health coach, Vanessa Fitzgerald, who has been publically documenting her adderall detox in real time. Inspired by her honesty, the ladies converse about their personal experiences with the drug, in this candid and cathartic discussion. Roses and thorns has Stephanie awakening as a woman through a rosey book rec and Elizabeth is casting spells by way of Feng Shui.

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Jun 06, 2018
EP 145: Nail Lifestyle (guest: Sarah Gibson Tuttle)

In the wild and crazy world of self care, Stephanie and Elizabeth have yet to tackle the enthralling topic of Nail Care... until now! To lead them on this educational journey they have called in nail aficionado and boss, Sarah Gibson Tuttle, founder of LA nail mecca, Olive and June. Sarah guides us all on our journey towards embodying our best nail lifestyle. Also in this show, the girls talk about trips of the; mushrooms, acid, and road variety. They recap their event in Encinitas, CA at Four Moons Spa, reflect on long weekend adventures and remark on the spiritual experience that is a Taylor Swift Concert.

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May 31, 2018
EP 144: TSR Live! From SXSW (guest Alisa Vitti)

This episode transports us back to That’s So Retrograde Live from the Official SXSW Podcast Stage, with special guest back by popular demand, Alisa Vitti, founder of Flo Living and author of the TSR Bible, Woman Code. 

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May 23, 2018
EP 143: The Food Therapist (guest: Shira Lenchewski)

Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome Shira Lenchewski (goop’s registered dietician, hello!) to the TSR universe to therapize us around our relationship with food. Fresh into a new and intense Astro transit, the girls provide deep intel on their fave cosmic resources around the web, and offer up a Rosey roundup of product reccs for the season. @shira_rd

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May 18, 2018
Ep 142: Make It Fashion (guest: Kristin Hildebrand)

The girls travel back in time and revisit Elizabeth’s fashion roots, as they welcome her frequent collaborator, mentor, and friend to the show, fashion visionary: Kristin Hildebrand. KH dissects her forward thinking take on sustainable fashion and how it has manifested in her current project, WONE. It’s a spring bouquet of roses featuring: PRP facials, The Goods Mart, GUA SHA rituals and Whole 30 hacks turned partnership manifestations via our friends at Thrive Market. This episode is brought to you by: Thrive Market, visit:; LOLA / / promo code: retrograde40; Care Of / / promo code: soretrograde

May 12, 2018
Ep 141: The First So Retrograde In May (guest: Bizzie Gold)

It's a new month as Stephanie and Elizabeth welcome in the new - a new home for the podcast, a reveal of new Week in Wellness jingle and a new friend as they are joined by entrepreneur and personal development coach, Bizzie Gold. Bizzie discusses the basis of her renowned ‘BREAK Method’, while, Roses and Thorns are eventful and yummy with a bounty of snack shout outs and doc recs. Also, Elizabeth’s home purge journey remains somewhat Thorny and Steph contemplates quitting Apple Inc. altogether. This episode is brought to you by: LOLA / / promo code: retrograde40

May 10, 2018
Ep 140: Gender Chill (guest: Jacob Tobia)

As the result of a meet cute at SXSW, this week’s guest, Jacob Tobia, joins Stephanie and Elizabeth for a conversation about gender in today's expanding landscape! A writer, producer, author, activist and leader in the contemporary conversation on gender, they join the show to illuminate us on the rainbow that is gender identity. Later, It's all birthday roses and adulting over here, as Elizabeth slides into 33 and Steph tells a potential lover the truth♥️ This episode is brought to you by: The Official That’s So Retrograde Closed Facebook Group; search in Facebook to join / That’s So Retrograde at Four Moons Spa, May 19;

Apr 27, 2018
Ep 139: Wild Wild Post-Retrograde (guest: Robyn Youkilis)

It’s a straight outta Retrograde, 4/20 adjacent, episode for the ages! Certified health coach, author and mamma, Robyn Youkilis, brings her ‘Thin From Within‘ and 'Go with Your Gut' knowledge to the TSR Universe. Meanwhile, Elizabeth and Stephanie recap their recent R+T worthy happenings: A Wild Wild Country and chill moment, the latest wellness trends from Eastern Europe, and Bravo manifestations realized. This episode is brought to you by: Miss Grass, / promo code: retrograde; Care of, / promo code: soretrograde

Apr 21, 2018
Ep 138: TSR LIVE! Retrograde Extravaganza at Wanderlust (guests: Jon Rudnitsky and Ambi Kavanagh)

Elizabeth and Stephanie keep it on brand with a Retrograde-centric live show in the midst of Mercury Retrograde! Join the packed crowd as Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome comedian Jon Rudnitsky (SNL) and their beloved Astrologer in Residence Ambi Kavanagh in this special episode recorded live at Wanderlust Hollywood! Special thanks to: Wanderlust Hollywood, Martin Spanjers, Lillium Acupuncture, Edible Spirit, Shape House, Dom Pens, Pukka Tea, Woo For Play, Heavenly Organics, Coco Kind, Schmidt's Naturals & Gimme Snacks

Apr 12, 2018
Ep 137: Manifest Guestiny (guest: Lacy Phillips)

Manifestation Advisor and fan favorite, Lacy Phillips of Free and Native, joins the TSR Universe at long last! No passive visualizations here - manifesting with intention through healing subconscious blocks, along with Lacy’s practical tools to do so, are discussed. ( p.s. We are also giving away one of her online courses!). Also, Stephanie and Elizabeth re-cap a recent manifestation turned reality, their live show at Wanderlust Hollywood. This episode is brought to you by That’s So Retrograde’s subscriber content:

Apr 06, 2018
Ep 136: Sweat-rograde (guest: Sophie Chiche)

WARNING: This episode is HOT, as everything you’ve ever wanted to know about infrared sweat is discussed. Guest Sophie Chiche of Shapehouse joins TSR for a sit down, answering burning questions about the benefits of infrared therapy, pro tips on how to make the most out of your sweat, and her own personal transformative wellness journey. This episode is brought to you by: ModCloth ( / code: retrograde; Care Of ( / code: soretrograde)

Mar 31, 2018
Ep 135: Sex With Retrograde (guest: Emily Morse)

It's the first Mercury Retrograde of 2018, a time where communication traditionally goes awry. To counteract said cosmic inevitability, sex and relationship expert, Doctor of Human Sexuality and iconic podcaster, Emily Morse, of Sex with Emily, joins the TSR Universe. Mindfulness when it comes to sex and sexuality is discussed and spoiler alert Communication is key! Communication as lubrication and more candid truths are dropped. Plus, Elizabeth and Steph recap their Austin adventures at SXSW! Happy Retrograde Ya'll!

Mar 24, 2018
Ep 134: Fun Medical Stuff (guest: Dr. Will Cole)

Steph and Elizabeth welcome functional medicine doctor, Dr. Will Cole, to find out the who, what, and why of functional medicine. Dr. Cole gives us intel on the autoimmune epidemic, our gut garden, and shines light on the buzzword of the moment - the MICROBIOME. The ladies also rose and thorn on all things spring cleaning and new beauty product discoveries including coconut lube as deodorant. The more you know...

Mar 13, 2018
Ep 133: To the Right, To the Right (guest: Stephanie Staidle)

Business coach, Stephanie Staidle (The Right Brained Entrepreneur), joins Elizabeth and Stephanie for a conversation on harnessing the often neglected right brain when it comes to creating the career of your dreams. AND It's a rosey week celebrating immersive experiences / making things happen as the girls recap the Hollywood Beauty Awards, their podcasting panel at Create and Cultivate, recent travels and high times with High Times Magazine.

Mar 07, 2018
Ep 132: So Retrograde Wines (guest: The Organic Cellar)

For those of you who ever wanted to get tipsy with the ladies of TSR, this one is for you. The topic: wine; The guests: Monica Little and Brian Cuddy of The Organic Cellar; The reveal: what’s ACTUALLY in the wine you’re drinking, and why biodynamic wines are the mindful, moon cycle associated choice, you never knew you needed. Namaste drinking.

Feb 26, 2018
Ep 131: Sweet Aunt Whitney (guest: Whitney Cummings)

Inspirational friend, Whitney Cummings, sits in as Elizabeth and Stephanie recap the events of their recent live show (aka #shamangate) and plot twist: FACEBOOK leads them somewhere rosey. It’s a candid convo as Whitney discusses her healing journey as chronicled in her book, ‘I’m Fine… and Other Lies’. Dropping knowledge on codependency, egg freezing and the science of "The Female Brain"; her directorial film debut in which she also stars, now streaming!

Feb 19, 2018
Ep 130: Lucky Number Three (guest: Jen Kramer)

Happy 3rd Birthday TSR! In honor of 3 whole years of spilling the (fermented) tea on all things health & wellness, Elizabeth and Stephanie present the That’s So Retrograde Awards: Best of LA Edition! Joining them later for the interview is TSR Award winner for Best Skin Saver, Jen Kramer, of Corrective Skincare LA and actual skin saver to Elizabeth - Jen answers the ladies queries about all things breakouts -- from causes to remedies and everything in between.

Feb 10, 2018
Ep 129: The Other C Word (guest: Aidi Kansas)

Intuitive Sexual Healer, Aidi Kansas, joins Elizabeth and Steph to introduce a meditative practice to perhaps add your mindfulness repertoire: The Clit Sit Meditation (CSM). Aidi speaks on the benefits of CSM, how it aligns with the times and how it helps tap into feminine creative life source. Roses and Thorns talks healthy breakfast curiosities, cold medicine hazes, beauty product recommendations, mantras and more. #SoRetrograde

Feb 03, 2018
Ep 128: Den Mother (guest: Tal Rabinowitz)

Former TV executive turned meditation entrepreneur, Tal Rabinowitz (founder of LA's The DEN Meditation), sits down with Elizabeth and Stephanie for an inspiring conversation. They go deep on the importance following your path, discuss elements of meditation and celebrate how Botox journeys and Vanderpump Rules can be the perfect compliment to any wellness routine.

Jan 27, 2018
Ep 127: Period Peace (guest: Erica Chidi Cohen)

Women’s health empowerment educator, coach and doula, Erica Chidi Cohen, joins the show bringing with her both a much needed (if the girls do say so themselves) refresher course on the reproductive cycle and on the female experience. Kicking off with a conversation on the birthing experience she shares facts, insights and trends and leads us on an enlightening and educational journey for women and those who know them.

Jan 20, 2018
Ep 126: Anchored In Meditation (guest: Dan Harris)

New year, new intentions, new segments! Elizabeth and Stephanie are back for their first episode of 2018. Joining them is NYT bestselling author and ABC news anchor, Dan Harris, for some deep talk surrounding the themes of his new book, Meditation For Fidgety Skeptics. An enlightening convo for those looking to dabble or go deeper with a meditation practice in 2018. Namaste meditating, or try it!

Jan 11, 2018
Ep 125: TSR in Conversation: Him & Her Podcast (guest: The Skinny Confidential & Michael Bosstick)

It’s an end of year holiday party, as two of Elizabeth and Stephanie’s favorite fellow podcasters and cute couple, Lauryn Evarts and Michael Bosstick, join the show! Chatting their latest wellness adventures, mis-adventures, obsessions and more.

Dec 29, 2017
Ep 124: REtrograde REflection (guest: Kelsey Patel)

The final Mercury Retrograde of 2017 wraps up in a timely fashion as the year comes to a close. In their final recording of 2017, Elizabeth and Steph call upon mindfulness expert, healer and friend, Kelsey Patel to make a triumphant REturn to TSR as she helps us all gently land into 2018 - providing some thoughtful discussion, themes, roses, thorns AND a mindful meditation to close out the year with intention (min: 40: 30). Thanks to all who namastay’d listening this year, you're all the best bouquet of Roses there is!

Dec 23, 2017
Ep 123: A Retrograde Sit In (guest: Ally Hilfiger & Steve Hash)

It's a festival of light, as Elizabeth and Stephanie highlight some rosey selects to listen to and watch this holiday season. Their friends, Ally Hilfiger and Steve Hash join the show to chat about their recently debuted Sit In Podcast and turn the tables by interviewing the ladies of TSR for a change. Though the thorns may be a bit retrogradey- Roses covers what the girls will binging on for holiday 'break'. Because, #wellness.

Dec 18, 2017
Ep 122: This Is Us (guest: Remington Donovan)

Tantric Numerologist, Remington Donovan, joins the show, sharing his insight on the ancient cosmic practice of working with numbers. As an added bonus, he exercises his gifts reading Elizabeth and Stephanie's numbers; going deep on their soul's purpose and challenges. Exploring how these pertain to their lives, partnership and the mission of TSR. Roses align for the collective as the girls share some rosey experiences they've had around the great state of California of late!

Dec 10, 2017
Ep 121: Retrograde, Actually (guest: Ambi Kavanaugh)

TSR’s cosmic tour guide, Ambi Kavanaugh, returns to illuminate the space covering the final astro happenings of 2017; A "cosmic bitch slap" of sorts, including a full moon/ mercury retrograde hybrid and what to expect as we close out the year and head into 2018. Roses and Thorns brings balance on the topic of adorning your insides and outsides: Reiki attunements and current makeup musts. #soretrograde

Dec 02, 2017
Ep 120: TSR in Conversation (guest: Ruthie Lindsey)

In the spirit of the holidays, Elizabeth and Stephanie sit down with stylist, speaker and friend to the show, Ruthie Lindsey. Ruthie is beautifully candid as she shares her story of chronic pain and ultimately, flipping the switch on her own narrative by choosing joy and uplifting others to do so along the way. Namaste appreciating life ya'll !

Nov 24, 2017
Ep 119: Fairy Godguru (guest: Guru Jagat)

Fairy godmother to the show, Guru Jagat, who the LA times coined as: "a thoroughly modern, multimedia yogi and the fresh, female face making the Kundalini yoga tradition increasingly popular.” sits down with Stephanie and Elizabeth in a much anticipated interview. Roses and Thorns celebrates the most recent TSR live event with Saje Wellness, adventures in manifesting and the girls admit to having a big REPUTATION.

Nov 18, 2017
Ep 118: Breath Werq (guest: Ashley Neese)

Energy medicine healer, Ashley Neese, joins Elizabeth and Stephanie to share her expertise on the healing powers of breath work. Guiding us in the simple practice, she then coaches us on how to bring it into some trigger situations a.k.a the ultimate spiritual test: Thanksgiving with the fam. Listener mail goes into cannabis use whilst breast feeding and the girls Rose and Thorn about card readings, birthday celebrations, revelations, and skin triumphs!

Nov 11, 2017
Ep 117: Biet As It May (guest: Biet Simkin)

The girls sit down with artist and meditation teacher Biet Simkin to discuss how to transcend barriers to success, both personal and professional. Roses and Thorns supports wellness routines in the forms of reality TV, therapeutic crying, and copious amounts of bagels. Happy Birthday Steph. #thatssoretrograde

Nov 04, 2017
Ep 116: Magical Sabbatical (guest: The Sage Goddess)

THE Sage Goddess, aka Dr. Athena Perrakis, joins the show for a seasonally appropriate discussion on Halloween - going deep on magical topics including the significance of Sanhaim and the origin of celebrating ghosts this time of year. She also lends a hand in helping us to harness the potency and power of the upcoming *full moon* in Taurus. Later on, it’s a bouquet of roses to rest on your Sanhaim alter as Stephanie and Elizabeth tell us What’s Good, what's really really good.

Oct 27, 2017
Ep 115: Shaman Bomb (guest: Shaman Durek)

Once again, Shaman Durek graces the TSR universe, dropping a slew of 'Shaman Bombs’ and evoking the spirits of clarity and guidance. Obsessed with the insight he brings to the show, Elizabeth and Stephanie, welcome the shift in perspective and invite TSR’s listeners to open their hearts and minds to this timely conversation. Later on, Roses and Thorns evokes the spirit of giveaways, good TV and valued life lessons.

Oct 18, 2017
Ep 114: A Pod For The Defense (guest: Sophia Bush)

Sophia Bush returns to TSR and keeps it real! With the intention of speaking to all mindful beings in need of some soul medicine; she brings poetry (A Brief For The Defense by Jack Gilbert), insight, her feelings and frustrations and Retrograde-worthy recommendations of all sorts. In this pow wow; Elizabeth, Steph and Sophia agree that a cultural movement focusing on taking care of our higher selves has never been more important (hello, TSR) !! Which comes in perfect synchronicity with the latest development in *Retrogradeland*, as the girls open the show with a big announcement. Namaste listening, indeed! (Visit for more information)

Oct 10, 2017
Ep 113: The Chart of the Deal (guest: Ambi Kavanagh)

TSR’s cosmic guide Ambi Kavanagh (of Alchemy with Ambi), makes her return to the show giving the lowdown on the latest astrological transit and answers some listener q's with an ASK AMBI segment. 1985 babies rejoice! as Scorpio is having a cosmic party in our favor, and Elizabeth and Steph are HERE. FOR. IT. Roses and Thorns delivers some hot crystal tips for the Jewish New Year, a back to basics skincare exploration and a little bit of ranting in the political realm, because there is not enough acupuncture to chill us out.

Sep 30, 2017
Ep 112: TSR LIVE!: Vision Bored —> Vision Board (guest: The Spiritual Owl)

*Originally Posted: 3/10/17* In this special LIVE episode, Steph and Elizabeth welcome one of their guides, The Spiritual Owl who instructs us all on how to wrangle the power of a vision board by tapping into our true selves through the law of attraction. They're joined by guest musician and friend to the show Hale Appleman who sings the theme song and leaves us with the anthem of a generation. Special thanks to Kaylee Cole for accompaniment, to all the people in the room for sharing their hearts with us; and to Buckwheat for giving grain free people the gift of the crunch. Also, major Rose handed to Elizabeth for putting her budget balancing hat on for the spiritual seeker.

Sep 25, 2017
Ep 111: Fall Into Wisdom (guest: The Spiritual Owl)

Welcome to Fall Retrograders! - a new mindfulness practice for a new season never hurt anybody. Thus, one of Stephanie and Elizabeth’s wisest advisors, The Spiritual Owl, joins the program to do just that-opening hearts and minds with a little homework on the side. #namastaylistening

Sep 22, 2017
Ep 110: TSR Mini: Fall Equinox with The Edible Spirit (guest: Mikey Domitrovitch)

It’s a bite sized bonus episode as Mikey Domitrovitch aka Edible Spirit, joins Elizabeth and Stephanie to hit us with some contemplations and rituals to mindfully welcome in the Fall Equinox with intention.

Sep 22, 2017
Ep 109: Fascia Week (guest: Lo Roxburgh)

Fascia and body alignment expert, Lo Roxburgh, a.k.a the Body Whisperer joins Elizabeth and Stephanie for some body whispering wisdom, talking about the importance of tension release for a mind body connection and the time they rolled together… foam rolled. Later on, Roses and Thorns takes New York! as in Housewives and The THNK 1994 Museum. Also, the Impossible Burger is discussed as well as some potentially thorny social media etiquette.

Sep 12, 2017
Ep 108: Poetic Justice (guest: In-Q)

Poet and friend to the show, IN-Q, joins Elizabeth and Stephanie for an exploration of the creative process and its connection to the soul. We begin with IN-Q performing one of his new works in preparation for his upcoming live show in Los Angeles and goes on to share insights on overcoming creative blocks and connecting with the power of the written word. Namaste listening because as we wrap up this current Mercury Retrograde, the girls have some RE-commendations for ya to welcome you to September! New month, new vibe. "IN-Q" for listening.

Sep 06, 2017
Ep 107: That’s So Shamanade (guest: Shaman Durek)

*Originally Posted: 3/18/17* Joined by Shaman Durek, the official Shaman of That's So Retrograde (b/c every Los Angeles-based podcast needs one), Elizabeth and Stephanie explore themes of life and death, and stepping into a place of receiving information in order to live your most loving and fulfilled life. It's a wild roller coaster of adventure and emotion and the girls are officially in love with the honesty and knowledge of Shamen D. They also Rose and Thorn about iTunes placement and vaping, because, why not?

Sep 01, 2017
Ep 106: Game of Thorns (guest: Danielle Beinstein)

In the midst of a thorny Mercury retrograde and with an eclipse approaching, the girls call in psychological astrologer Danielle Beinstein to help ease our minds and hearts. Dani drops knowledge on the current Astro transits, contextualizes what seems like the end of the world, and provides a gentle guided mediation towards the end of the ep to keep us grounded. Roses and Thorns comes up thorny but we manage to find a rose in daily practices that have been adopted through TSR, its working! This episode is #SOretrograde!

Aug 20, 2017
Ep 105: Welcome Back (to Retrograde) (guest: Jamie Sigler)

They’re baaaack. Elizabeth and Stephanie re-emerge after their digital detox / summer break and are joined by actress and advocate Jamie Sigler, for a candid convo on Jamie’s journey with MS and how practicing manifestation and intention setting have changed her outlook. The girls have their own manifestation moment as New York Housewives plays 'roses and thorns'. Elizabeth’s impressional mind goes vegan after watching 'What The Health' and Steph’s mom finds acupuncture and feels like she's struck gold.

Aug 15, 2017
Ep 104: Quantum Harmonix (guest: Torkom Ji)

Disclaimer: by tuning in here you will be diving into a sound bath at minute's an experiential type-a-pod! Why? Soundbaths have been part of Elizabeth and Stephanie's wellness routine for a hot minute now and yet they still have questions about the how and the why of it all. Enter: soundbath expert and maestro, Torkom Ji, who comes in with FACTS and a 10 min soundbath for your listening pleasure (#tryingsomething). In Roses and Thorns, EK gets crafty and SS goes in on her love of The Defiant Ones and waxes philosophical on morning rituals. ANNNNNNND put your phones down, because TSR announces its first ever Digital Detox July 24-26 !!! Namaste connected❤️

Jul 23, 2017
Ep 103: Spring Clearing (guest: Style Rituals)

*Originally Posted: 4/21/2017* Fashion stylist turned Shaman, Colleen McCann AKA Style Rituals, joins the girls to discuss spring cleaning with eyes on the higher realms. They chat practical tips for seasonally clearing spaces; closet cleansings do’s and don’ts; remind us its easy to simply ask bad ju ju to leave us alone, ad that there’s nothing crystal prescription and good saging ritual cant clear out. And in a fun twist, Colleen does a card pull for the TSR audience, adding color to where we are in the current astro landscape. Roses and thorns goes on a desert trip to Joshua Tree- hallucinogenics option, yet not requited.

Jul 17, 2017
Ep 102: Summer Summer Summertime (guest: Ambi Sitham)

Yay! It’s the 'summertime' cosmic forecast episode you've been manifesting! Ambi Sitham reprises her role as TSR’s astrologer in residence and stops by to chat working with the full moons, eclipse season, and gives us some fun and current insight into the stars with what she calls; the summer of L O V E. Elizabeth is back on coffee and not mad at it, Steph IS mad at the news and Will Smith is this episode’s spirit animal. Enjoy :)

Jul 15, 2017
Ep 101: Gorgeous Ladies of Retrograde (guest: Jackie Tohn)

Too much summertime rose' has Elizabeth and Stephanie seeing roses - literally. As such, they've dedicated this entire episode to all things rosy; dropping knowledge with some of their fave wellness products and practices for Summer 2017. Then, as a fun and *rosy* addition; friend to the show, Jackie Tohn (aka Jackie The Entertainer) joins the convo for some laughs as she serves up a dose of silly and honest banter. She chats her new Netflix show, GLOW and tops it all off by performing a reprise of what can described as nothing less than the 'That’s So Retrograde' official anthem.

Jul 08, 2017
Ep 100: THYROID 101 (guest: Fern Olivia)

What’s the deal with the Thyroid? These days, hormonal imbalances are running rampant and Stephanie and Elizabeth are on a mission to get answers on the who, what, where and why of it all. Joining them is Fern Olivia, thyroid expert and founder of Thyroid Yoga and Ajai Alchemy. Fern shares her story with being diagnosed with Hashimoto's and answers listener questions as they pertain to this mysterious gland. We Rose and Thorn about re visiting our childhoods, Nasa getting involved in the wellness conversation and a conversation on being misquoted.

Jul 01, 2017
Ep 99: The Hunger Games (guest: Kelly LaVeque)

Kelly LeVeque, celebrated wellness coach and nutrition maven joins the show - sharing her fresh, science-based, approach on regulating hunger hormones, de-bunking dietary myths, and answering listener q’s (p.s also a giveaway of her new book, Body Love.) Roses and Thorns finds Elizabeth + Stephanie on a Trader Joe’s adventure of the cauliflower pizza crust variety, a celebration of summer and some skin woes solved!

Jun 24, 2017
Ep 98: So Roo-trograde (guest: Lance Bass)

Pop Icon and friend of the show, Lance Bass, joins TSR for a causal and friendly sit-down, chatting all things, from karaoke and cooking, to finding his destiny, and his tips for sustaining a connected meditation practice. Continuing with the musical theme, Stephanie and Elizabeth breakdown their adventures at this years Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival in Manchester, Tennessee.

Jun 16, 2017
Ep 97: That’s So Colorful (guest: Dougall Fraser)

New month, new vibe as TSR kicks off its summer residency at Ra Ma Institute in Venice, CA. Joining the party is Intuitive color expert and author, Dougall Fraser, who guides the girls through a magical color exploration. Discussing each aspect of our unique color palates and offers a cool color meditation for all to work with at home. The girls re-cap their adventure to Miraval Arizona; including equine therapy, ropes courses and cranial sacral massages. Oh My! PS, we've extended the Body Vibes promo + more fun exclusives from TSR’s beloved tribe.

Jun 05, 2017
Ep 96: Protect Her (guest: Alexis Jones)

Activist and friend of the show, Alexis Jones, joins Stephanie and Elizabeth to share her inspiring story of manifestation regarding the inception and birth of both her social change causes, 'I Am That Girl' and her newest project, 'Protecther'. Alexis' story is proof that words and thoughts are our most powerful co-creators and when you combine doing the work and just saying something is so incredible things can happen. Roses and Thorns provide TV recommendations, listening recs and visits some gratitude realness.

May 28, 2017
Ep 95: Roses and Vibes (guests: Madison Declerq and Leslie Kritzer)

It’s a show full of roses, a bouquet if you will; as Elizabeth and Stephanie do a deep dive / round up of their current faves in beauty, health and beyond. Joining the conversation is Madison Declerq and Leslie Kritzer founders of Retrograde’s current rosiest find, Body Vibes. These innovative women break down the what, why and how of these 'frequency technology' patches and share the magic behind the girls' favorite new wellness discovery.

May 19, 2017
Ep 94: Into The Re-wild (guest: Carolyn Barron)

Elizabeth and Stephanie’s acupuncturist, Carolyn Barron, of Botanarchy, joins the ladies to introduce the concept of ‘re-wilding’ medicine in honor of being your own health advocate and alchemist. She breaks down the Five Elements as understood by traditional Chinese Medicine and explains how they pertain to common ailments- offering practical tips to empower us to be our own healers. Roses and Thorns are joyful and informative with Elizabeth’s latest youtube k-hole reveal and Steph's cry for help for curing her dog's swamp mouth. Any holistic vets out there? Guys? No? Ok. The girls are back and namastayin’ curious.

May 12, 2017
Ep 93: The One with the Yoni Egg (guests: Kayla and Kiana Reeves)

What's a yoni and why does it need an egg? ....This episode goes deep down the sex organ rabbit hole with Kayla and Kiana Reeves, founders of The Tulip. They join Elizabeth and Stephanie to educate and myth bust all things pertaining to this ancient and powerful self care practice. In Roses and Thorns, the self-care convo continues with an update on the progress of the girls' meditation rituals and while we're asking questions...what the f*ck is Xanthum Gum??

Apr 28, 2017
Ep 92: That’s Soy Retrograde (guest: Emma Roberts)

It's a pod goals moment as the girls invite their friend and wellness cohort, actress Emma Roberts to the show. Mindful hilarity ensues as they talk crystals, healers, adventures in manifesting and Emma's most recent creation, her brand new book club; Belletrist. The girls rose and thorn candidly about pussy issues and collectively rose the love-filled TSR community. Namaste loving the crew♡

Apr 14, 2017
Ep 91: The Most Retrograde (guest: Ambi Sitham)

We’re approaching a celestial cluster f*ck of sorts! Luckily, TSR’s Astrologer In Residence, Ambi Sitham, joins the show once again to guide us all through the cosmos current happenings. Also, Elizabeth recaps her wellness discoveries in Chicago and Steph breaks down some new things she is trying on her wellness journey. There's so much to discuss on the subject there should probably be a podcast about it! LOL IT'S HERE! Namaste tryin' new stuff.

Apr 05, 2017
Ep 90: Essential Basics (guest: Hope Gillerman)

Essential oil expert and creator of the renowned brand, H Gillerman Organics, Hope Gillerman, joins the girls to chat all things essential about these oils. Later in the show, Elizabeth and Steph discuss their new take on daily routines regarding recycling, probiotics, dance and skincare... as its been said, make new friends and keep the old one is witch hazel and the other's soap. Namaste Listening!

Mar 29, 2017
Ep 89: It’s the Remix to Intuition (guest: Jill Willard)

Intuitive, medium and author of Intuitive Being, Jill Willard, joins the show - bringing with her practical insight and exercises to put in our intuitive tool kits. Plus, Elizabeth and Steph are back from Austin, TX for SXSW and give us a rosey recap, ya’ll.

Mar 20, 2017
Ep 88: RMS: Retrograde Makeup School (guest: Rose Marie Swift)

It’s a rose of a show, literally -- Rose Marie Swift, iconic makeup artist, clean living enthusiast and creator of the TSR's favorite makeup line, RMS cosmetics joins the show. She keeps is real in her candor and her ingredients and educates us all on the value of truly clean beauty and questioning what we've been fed by the mainstream beauty industry. The girls are obsessed with her and have a hard time picking other roses as this manifest guestiny is truly one for the books! Steph rants about da club and dating while Elizabeth keeps it loving and talks to her visiting parents about their wellness rituals.

Feb 23, 2017
Ep 87: Royal Highness (guests: Cindy Capobiano and Rob Rosenheck)

Elizabeth and Steph get high on the facts with Cindy Capobiano and Rob Rosenheck, founders of revolutionary cannabis confection brand, Lord Jones. Educating our consciousness to an elevated level, the duo brings insight on the history, science and current legal landscape of the marijuana industry. Plus Elizabeth Levels Up in a group life coaching program and Steph finds her natural highness and inner child at bouncy gym.

Feb 16, 2017
Ep 86: Connected Beauty (guest: Dr. Howard Murad)

Dermatological guru and new favorite person / adopted grandpa, Dr. Howard Murad, joins Elizabeth and Stephanie and raises their vibes around the idea of ‘connected beauty’. His 360 approach to skin health made him a trailblazer in both the medical and dermatological fields and S and E are ALL EARS. Meanwhile, Steph puts on her lab coat and answers listener questions regarding proper supplementation and Elizabeth says high to Hello MD.

Feb 09, 2017
Ep 85: Adventures in Manifesting: TSR LIVE! at the Rialto Theater (guests: Mikey Domitrovich and Jackie Tohn)

The ladies of That’s So Retrograde illuminate their true millennial nature by bringing their show to an Urban Outfitters and recording live at the historic downtown LA Rialto Theatre location! Joined by inter dimensional guide and friend to spirits, Mikey Domitrovich they talk 'how-to' and best practices for manifesting, AND the super talented Jackie Tohn returns as musical guest.

Jan 20, 2017
Ep 84: Elissa’s New Years Essentials (guest: Elissa Goodman)

Nutritionist/spirit Mama, Elissa Goodman joins Elizabeth and Steph in this first episode of 2017! She offers all the essentials for beginning the New Year on a healthy foot; including hot tips on supplements, casual detoxifying, drinking alcohol and the wonders of cbd. Plus, Steph talks mindful lessons courtesy of Ikea, Elizabeth reels from day drinking in the Florida Keys, and we have Roses and Thorns too. We baaaaaack!

Jan 11, 2017
Ep 83: Retrograde Release Party (guest: Kelsey Patel)

In the final show of this year, Elizabeth and Stephanie use this retrograde to reflect on all things roses and thorns, 2016. But first, they're joined by spiritual wellness coach, Kelsey Patel who guides them through end of year rituals and instructs how to close out the year with gentle intention. Namaste tuned!

Dec 22, 2016
Ep 82: A Retrograde Holiday (guest: Ambi Sitham)

It's the final Cosmic Forecast of 2016 as the girls welcome back, Astrologist and friend to the show Ambi Sitham, to break down the upcoming full moon and Rerograde. Also, The girls talk Mariah, Sex Dust tonics and because they love you, they put on their Santa hats for an exciting holiday giveaway. As we rev up into this festive season and things get kinda wonky, remember to blame it on the re re re re re retrograde.

Dec 13, 2016
Ep 81: Breakfast Criminal (guest: Ksenia)

Acai wishes and breakfast dreams make manifest as Elizabeth and Steph welcome newly nomadic Breakfast Criminal, Ksenia to the show. The ladies chat tech, drumming, and the importance of starting your morning right. This ep serves a major dose of video vixen realness as the girls give their collective rose to their homies Kaneholler for their brand new music video' Lite Brite' that they both happeen to be featured dancing in. Stay tuned for some fun listener mail and more!

Dec 13, 2016
Ep 80: Super Moons and Moon Juice: TSR LIVE! at Soho House (guest: Amanda Chantal Bacon)

That’s So Retrograde’s live show from Soho House in West Hollywood, CA, Its a late night wellness party with guest Amanda Chantal Bacon, founder of Moon Juice and Sean Scanlon of Smallpools as musical guest.

Dec 13, 2016
Ep 79: Special Edition: That’s So Retrograde x Mind Body Green at Revitalize 2016

It’s a wellness extravaganza as Elizabeth Kott and Stephanie Simbari come to you from the ground floor of’s Revitalize 2016 conference in Dove Mountain, AZ. Guest’s include: Shamen Durek, Tiana Griego, Light Watkins, Hope Gillerman, Shiva Rose, Amanda Chantal Bacon, and Mind Body Green’s Olessa Pindak Jason Wachob and Colleen Wachob.

Nov 18, 2016
Ep 78: Listen, and Think About Someone You Love (guest: Dallas Clayton)

It’s post election and post super full moon in Taurus and Stephanie and Elizabeth are back! Joining them is children’s book author, poet, and artist, Dallas Clayton, who illustrates a huge dose on inspiration, reminding us that we ALL have the power to be a source of love and light in this world. Namaste listening, indeed.

Nov 18, 2016
Ep 77: When They Go Low, We Get High (guest: Sarah Silverman)

As we begin to see the light at the end of this election race, Stephanie and Elizabeth call on a major light of their lives: writer/ actress/ comedian/ legend, Sarah Silverman, to get her take on all the political action and what we can do to stay conscious and positive amidst the noise. As TSR's official political fairy godmother, Sarah brings insight and provides some much needed humor to the current state of affairs, reminding us to namaste informed and most importantly VOTE.

Nov 02, 2016
Ep 76: Earth and Beyond (guests: Martin Spanjers, Raviv Ullman Jordan Harkins, and Thomas John)

The girls go deep with kween mother earth AND take a cosmic trip into other realms in this two part episode! First they sit down with activists, friends and documentary filmmakers, Martin Spanjers, Raviv Ullman and Jordan Harkins, to talk about The Dakota Access Pipeline and the film they're making surrounding the issue and instruct us on what we can do to help. We then switch lanes and cross over to the other side with famed medium, Thomas John who talks about his journey into clairvoyance and lets the girls know who is hanging out with them from the other side. Spooky Cool!!

Nov 01, 2016
Ep 75: Earth and Beyond (guests: Martin Spanjers, Raviv Ullman Jordan Harkins, and Thomas John)

The girls go deep with kween mother earth AND take a cosmic trip into other realms in this two part episode! First they sit down with activists, friends and documentary filmmakers, Martin Spanjers, Raviv Ullman and Jordan Harkins, to talk about The Dakota Access Pipeline and the film they're making surrounding the issue and instruct us on what we can do to help. We then switch lanes and cross over to the other side with famed medium, Thomas John who talks about his journey into clairvoyance and lets the girls know who is hanging out with them from the other side. Spooky Cool!!

Nov 01, 2016
Ep 74: Make The Dentist Great Again (guest: Dr. Karla Solis)

This week's guest Dr. Karla Solis of LA holistic Dentistry is bringing the good vibes to the dentist chair and to our ears - breaking down how to keep our precious pearly whites pearly with a practical, mindful and holistic approach to our dental health. Also a cool ticket giveaway to our LA listeners, a nod to Elizabeth and Steph's manifestation powers with new jingle for Roses and Thorns and more!

Oct 20, 2016
Ep 73: Reiki 101 (guest: Kelsey Patel)

The ladies take a moment to get down to basics with magical teacher and healer, Kelsey Patel, who shares the nuts and bolts of one of the most talked about modern healing modalities; REIKI. Also in this episode: listener mail including fave places in LA and intro to meditation, and per usual the show tops off w/ the most mindful of practices, roses and thorns.

Oct 12, 2016
Ep 72: Astro Drama (guest: Ambi Sitham)

Is there a 13th sign or nah? the girls bring in TSR's Astrologer in Residence, Ambi Sitham, to break it down. Ambi also sheds light on the New Moon in Libra, said to be the most powerful of the year, so get those manifestation lists ready, kids! ... And one can’t not talk some pop culture gossip as the girls look for answers in the cosmos to explain the Brangie drama …. because #wellness.

Sep 30, 2016
Ep 71: World Gratitude Day (guests: Cary Mosier and Ryland Engelhart)

In celebration of World Gratitude Day, Elizabeth and Stephanie go on location at their favorite Los Angeles plant based food mecca, Cafe Gratitude, they sit down with super cool owners/ brothers, Cary Mosier and Ryland Engelhart to chat and also get an equal does of inspiration chatting with founder Chris Pan. Thanks World!

Sep 28, 2016
Ep 70: XOXO, Fitness Girl (guest: Sarah Lewis)

Trainer and LA fitness goddess, Sarah Lewis of XO Crossover Fitness joins Steph and Elizabeth and spirit guides them through their important fitness queries…effective at home workouts sans equipment, what you should eat pre and post workout, FUPA elimination and more! The girls then go deep on Fall TV roses sand thorns - as usual its all (fermented) tea, no shade.

Sep 21, 2016
Ep 69: Souper Aligned (guest: Nicole Centeno)

If you allow for it, the universe truly provides. Proven on this week's show in the form of soup, cook books and friendship as the girls welcome Nicole Centeno, chef and CEO of plant based soup delivery program, Splendid Spoon. They get souper into it discussing the ideology behind the brand as well as how to replicate the simple concept of the company at home. There is also a promo code for listeners ($15 off your first week, with code: retrograde) and the girls break down their week in wellness and kismet moments brought on by this retrograde.

Sep 13, 2016
Ep 68: The Situation Shroom (guest: Tero)

Like any true soul seekers, Elizabeth and Stephanie have taken a psychedelic journey or two with the help of a magic mushroom - but as information seekers, they feel like they had never really gotten to know the mushrooms in their full capacity. Enter this week’s guest Tero - farmer, mushroom knowledisgt and founder of Four Sigmatic a revolutionary line of products that bring the wellness benefits of mushrooms into every day life: coffee, hot coco, smoothie mixes and more. In this episode, the girls go on a mushroom journey of the fact variety with Tero as he breaks down the health benefits from the key players in the mushroom kingdom - Also with the Retrograde in full effect the girls share their so retrograde re-flections on the week: travel nightmares (ah hem American Airlines), re-connecting with their roots and bachelor news… oh! and ps there is a fun re-ward in the form of a giveaway too!

Sep 07, 2016
Ep 67: Beauty RX (guest: Alexis Wolfer)

Elizabeth and Stephanie enlist beauty author and founder of feminist beauty hub, Alexis Wolfer, to download all the sweet details on eating for beauty., DIY natural remedies and recommendations for the best natural beauty brands on the market right now - they chat the freedom in #makeupfreemondays (a movement created by Alexis herself) and elevating the makeup bag to elevate your life, it's gorgeous dahlings.

Aug 29, 2016
Ep 66: Retrograde School (guest: Ambi Sitham)

T.S.R’.s A.I.R. (astrologer in residence), Ambi Sitham is back to break down the cosmic choreography of this current retrograde. Spoiler alert - it's going to be a great one. Along with an astro Q and A, the girls go deep on the importance of asking for help, question how many tote bags are too many and why good hair is a forever rose.

Aug 22, 2016
Ep 65: High Vibes (guests: Mathew Gerson and Britany Confer)

This week the ladies focus on three things they hold dear; wellness, sex and weed as they welcome to the show innovators, Mathew Gerson and Britany Confer, of Foria Wellness. Foria is a leader in sexual wellness as it pertains to cannabis science and its high vibes from there! Also, Roses and Thorns are lit this week, with revelations and recommendations!

Aug 15, 2016
Ep 64: Be The Beginner (guest: Emily Pereira)

Vibing high and attracting high vibes - Steph and Elizabeth welcome author, retreat leader and light worker, Emily Pereira to the show. She shares her inspiring journey- chronicled in her e-book, Unstoppable Woman and brings the knowledge on the importance of bone broth, inside tips for glowing skin AND the enlightenment of the beginners mind. It’s Leo season and school’s in session kids! Summer school is fun!

Aug 05, 2016
Ep 63: Feeling All The Feels (guest: Mikey Domitrovich)

Feeling all the feels from the seemingly hot mess state of a world, Stephanie and Elizabeth decide to bring a conversation on fear and pain to light and welcome Spiritual Guide, Mikey Domitrovich back to the program. They acknowledge the spiritual conundrum in a world gone mad and discuss how to work through and deal with global pain on a micro and macro level. Don't panic though, there's still fun to be had and we have phone apps and book recommendations to distract you from all that is f*cked up and encouraging you to rise above and stay woke amidst it all.

Jul 22, 2016
Ep 62: TSR: LIVE! (guest: Ambi Sitham)

Drunk on White Girl Rose and Health Ade Kombucha (it’s a good mix)That’s So Retrograde sits down with their favorite astrologer, Ambi Sitham for the first ever TSR: LIVE! at Soho House West Hollywood. They are also joined by singer/songwriter/comedian Jackie Tohn who performs the So Retrograde theme song and closes the show with an original retrograde-esq rap. It’s a show!!

Jul 15, 2016
Ep 61: Pod Goals (guest: Sophia Bush)

This episode is #GOALS, as Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome actrivist (actress + activist), overall bad-ass, and beacon of light, Sophia Bush to the show. Doing how they do - the three ladies chat vulnerability and wellness practices, going deep on Sophia's inspirational coinage of the "Year of Yes," the projects she cares most deeply about and methods for staying grounded in our chaotic world. Also Elizabeth is newly woke from her wellness pilgrimage to Israel with The Schusterman Foundation and Stephanie got woke herself to a new tv binge sesh and a personal anecdote on why America's healthcare system is still wack.

Jun 29, 2016
Ep 60: Quench Your Thirst (guest: Annie Lawless)

The TSR gals sit with Suja Juice founder Annie Lawless as she tells her inspirational story of how she left law school to start a groundbreaking juice company, while breaking down incredible health tips for living a balanced life. The girls also reflect in a time of incredible turmoil the small joys one can find in chalk on a sidewalk and in loving one another.

Jun 24, 2016
Ep 59: Good Gut Kit (guest: Elissa Goodman)

Nutritionist and holistic health coach Elissa Goodman rejoins the TSR gals and gives practical and accessible tips on how to keep your gut, liver, and overall vibes healthy.

Jun 17, 2016
Ep 58: Me, Myself, and iO (guest: iO Tillet Wright)

Writer, gender activist and creator of the Self Evident Project, iO Tillet Wright stops by Retrogradeland for an open and honest conversation on gender and sex in the United States. Steph gets nudity shamed but per usual the girls DGAF as they celebrate their friendship and victories in comedy.

Jun 09, 2016
Ep 57: Is You Ok? (guest: Glozell)

YouTube mega star Glozell drops into the #SoRetrograde Headquarters to talk about her new book "Is You OK?" She chats with the girls about how crystals, meditations and subtle stalking led her to be the internet sensation she is today. Also, Steph and Elizabeth break down their favorite LA health haunts, for their first Los Angeles city guide! WE IS OK!!

Jun 01, 2016
Ep 56: Bite Us (guest: Ally Hilfiger)

This week, Ally Hilfiger sits down with the TSR girls to discuss her fight against and ultimate victory over Lyme Disease which she delightfully chronicles in her new book, Bite Me.  Meanwhile the girls R&T over the week’s happenings including their new invention… friendship-wellness dates.

May 26, 2016
Ep 55: Spill the (Fermented) Tea (guest: Daina Trou)

The girls are sipping the Health-Ade this week as they find out “what's the deal with Kombucha?” (seinfeld voice), with founder and CEO of Health-Ade Kombucha, Daina Trout. Rest assured this episode is all (fermented) tea, no shade. ?☕

May 18, 2016
Ep 54: Just Float (guest: Jim Hefner)

Elizabeth and Stephanie journey into the wellness future at Just Float and interview founder and CEO Jim Hefner on the benefits of float tanks and the zen vibes that occur in 11 inches of saltwater.

May 12, 2016
Ep 53: How You Retrograde (guests: Tara Sowlaty and Jessie Groveman)

The TSR girls welcome their soulmates in wellness - Tara Sowlaty and Jessie Groveman from How You Glow to break down their recommendations for spring and summer glowiness, as well as the best snacks in the health space and travel tips for those fulfilling their wanderlust.

May 05, 2016
Ep 52: Ask Ambi (guest: Ambi Sitham)

Cosmically aligned and ready for Retrograde season, the girls welcome back healer, actual goddess, and purveyor of astro-knoweldge, Alchemy with Ambi’s, Ambi Sitham - Ambi provides the most up to date celestial-forcast, illuminates the FIVE current and upcoming Retrogrades! (Because… it’s SO retrograde, guys) and conducts TSR’s first ever listener Q + A. Also, the girls remain fearful of the Beyhive (very MARS in Retrograde) and encourage everyone without small children to (re)visit their childlike wonder by way of Disneyland (get it...cuz of the ‘re’ in Retrogrades). Join them as they gather some astrological insight coupled with mantras on manifestation to bravely move forward into Retrograde season.

Apr 28, 2016
Ep 51: Waste Not Want Not (guest: Meryl Pritchard)

Earth Day is upon us and the girls get a crash course in 'Recycling 101' from zero waste advocate, holistic health coach and founder of Kore Kitchen; Meryl Pritchard. Meryl shares her tips for going ZERO waste and awakens the girls' minds to some everyday earth friendly practices. Needless to say, minds were blown (and not just because it's 4/20). #tokeup

Apr 20, 2016
Ep 50: Feel the Burn (guest: Michael Domitrovich)

Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome back to the show, empath, mystic and spirit guide, Michael Domitrovich. In this episode Mikey breaks down the basics and the how to’s of sage, palo santo and more with some smudging, burning and space clearing 101… vibrations are def heightened and not just because the girls are cycle synced with the new moon. Nama- yay!

Apr 14, 2016
Ep 49: Vitamin TSR (guest: Josh Zabar)

Stephanie and Elizabeth get informed when food and nutrition entrepreneur, Josh Zabar visits the show. Founder of Immortal Herbs and curator of bi-weekly health newsletter Vitamin Z, Josh provides some (hot guy) health knowledge which is helpful to all. Full steam ahead on the wellness train this week; Steph has the flu, the girls are on a cleanse and Elizabeth is putting chemicals on her eyes... to stunning results. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Apr 06, 2016
Ep 48: Simple Matters (guest: Erin Boyle)

This week the girls keep it simple by aligning with internet blogger and real life author Erin Boyle. They discuss the perils of tote bag giveaways and learning to let go of stuff that ya just don't effin' need. They Rose and Thorn about inspiration through spoken word poetry, vision boarding, the loss of a comedy legend and the potential poison in one of their favorite vices.

Mar 31, 2016
Ep 47: Peace, Love, & Flower Essences (guest: Alisa Gould-Simon)

The girls explore the magical powers of floral essences with former fashion tech guru turned Flora Luna Essences founder Alisa Gould-Simon. They also get mindful on The Bachelor results, chat listener mail and get deep into the only rose ceremony that matters: Roses and Thorns.

Mar 17, 2016
Ep 46: Going Clear (guest: Lisa Viscardi)

In the eye of the solar eclipse, clarity expert and personal organizer Lisa Viscardi joins the TSR girls to break down what it means to go CLEAR both in space and mind with her Categorize, Learn, Edit, Arrange, Revisit method. In addition - this week's roses & thorns include the practical application of Lisa's methods at Elizabeth's house, Stephanie's recent appearance on TMZ, the girls' newest matcha addiction and #throwback to Solange who is still popping after all this time (who knew?).

Mar 09, 2016
Ep 45: Total Eclipse of the Chart (guest: Ambi Sitham)

This week on TSR we've brought back our esteemed astrological advisor, Ambi Sitham, to help usher in March and break down the who's and what's of the solar and lunar eclipses coming our way. Ambi bestows goddess-like wisdom in practical applications on the art of manifestation, and the girls discuss a recent house-related trend that's been influencing their lives: from hosting crafting parties to cleaning house and of course, the much anticipated return of Fuller House. DJ Tanner's back, guys.

Mar 03, 2016
Ep 44: Politically Mindful (guest: Ben Gleib)

The girls are joined by comedian, self proclaimed politico and host of the GSN’s Idiotest, Ben Gleib, as he offers some insight and humor into the current political climate. He does his best Bernie / Hillary / Trump impressions and runs some IDIOTEST knowledge by our hosts- only to prove that Steph and Elizabeth are, in fact, idiots. Zen idiots, but idiots nonetheless. Also, Elizabeth quits the internet AGAIN and Steph's back on dating apps.

Feb 24, 2016
Ep 43: Heart 2 Heart (guest: Geri Hirsch)

Fresh faced and barely feeling a day over one year, Elizabeth & Steph welcome LeafTV founder and wellness aficionado Geri Hirsch to discuss the importance of being vigilant and health conscious after a recent personal experience. We glean major lessons and info that will help save lives, and then break down new trends in the wellness space that include bone broth, cleanses, and smoothies. Also Steph finally breaks her dry spell, post ex-bf - very proud, all around.

Feb 17, 2016
Ep 42: Rose Quartz Ceremony (guest: Katie Manzella)

Crystals that conjure self love, pop culture moments of mindfulness and many an Oprah reference in this special 1 year anniversary episode of TSR! One year older and thanks to this podcast, certainly a bit wiser, Elizabeth and Stephanie welcome back high priestess of crystal knowledge Katie Manzella and conduct a Rose ceremony of their own.

Feb 10, 2016
Ep 41: Be Here Nowish (guest: Owen Smith)

It's a twofer! This week, the TSR girls welcome comedian Owen Smith to talk about his transformative journey from a fast-food champion to a vegan and raw food enthusiast. And later in the episode, Alexandra Roxo and Natalia Leite, creators of the comedy web series BE HERE NOWISH, join the pod to discuss various wellness and spiritual practices they've all tried(ish).

Feb 03, 2016
Ep 40: Going with the Flow - Part 2 (guests: Jordana Kier and Alex Friedman)

Officially in the shadow of Retrograde, the girls keep it real in the theme of the RE, REvisiting the topic of REproductive health (see what we did there?) with their guests: entrepreneurs, Jordana Kier and Alex Friedman of LOLA. The LOLA team discusses why toxin free tampons are the new black and afterwards, we welcome back "Woman Code" author Alisa Vitti to drop more knowledge in part 2 of our convo. Fun promo alert: Promo code RETROGRADE can be used on for 50% off the first 1-box order.

Jan 27, 2016
Ep 39: Going with the Flow - Part 1 (guest: Alisa Vitti)

With a reputation of bringing you candid info on moon cycles, sleep cycles and the occasional SoulCycle, it only makes sense that Elizabeth and Stephanie chat all things menstrual cycle with esteemed author of 'Woman Code' and founder of Flo Living, Alisa Vitti, in the first part of this two part interview. Also joining the show is Emliy Todebush, political strategist and health coverage advocate - dropping some knowledge on Get Covered America. So basically if you get your period, know someone who gets their period or plan on seeing a doctor within the next year, this ones for you!

Jan 20, 2016
Ep 38: That IS SO Retrograde (guest: Ambi Sitham)

Former lawyer turned cosmic navigator, healer and magical astro kween, Ambi Sitham, sits down with Elizabeth and Stephanie to break down the current planetary status during this enlightened and informative Mercury Retrograde - focused episode. She busts some myths and sets us up for a successful start to 2016. Because at the end of the day it really IS so Retrograde

Jan 13, 2016
Ep 37: New Year, Same You, But Better (Ayurvedic Edition) (guest: Eleni Tsikrikas)

Happy New Year from That's So Retrograde! Elizabeth and Steph open up the new year with intentions (or in EK's case, a lack there of). Their outstandingly informative guest, the effervescent Aussie Ayurveda expert Eleni Tsikrikas, talks all things about the practice including the best herbs to start yourself out with and the difference between individual doshas. A must listen to start out your year.

Jan 06, 2016
Ep 36: That’s So Rabbinical (guest: Hanniel Levenson)

Back to LA and fresh off the heals of the festival of lights, the Elizabeth and Stephanie say “shalom" (the hello and peace one) to rabbi, educator and yogi, Hanniel Levenson. Together their conversation explores spirituality, religious ambivalence, and the power of connecting to a higher power. The Girls then connect with some reader mail and this weeks Roses + Thorns.

Dec 15, 2015
Ep 35: A New York State of MNDFL (guests: Ellie Burrows and Lodro Rinzler)

TSR is in NEW YAWK! In between belting the Rent Soundtrack the TSR gals find time to get a dose of MNDFL (pronounced mindful)-ness from founders Ellie Burrows and Lodro Rinzler, who opened a meditation studio where they practice what they preach. We learn all about what it takes to get into a meditation practice, the different types of meditation, and get some pro-tips from the experts themselves. All roses in this pod today (except Elizabeth's carbo-coma and Stephanie's frustration with adults who behave like juveniles). PS: Check out our AWESOME Holiday DIY video ;) It's a treat for all those who want to get elevated. PPS: The girls will be bartending Bravo's Watch What Happens Live this week so keep your eyes peeled.

Dec 08, 2015
Ep 34: Namastay the F*ck Away (guest: Dani Katz)

Just some porn, Botox, break ups, and orgasmic meditation talk as Elizabeth and Stephanie come in hot after their hiatus; covering these topics and more with spiritual word witch, transformation agent, and hilarious writer Dani Katz.

Nov 25, 2015
Ep 33: Ghost Adventurers (guest: Mikey Domitrovich)

In the shadow of All Hallow's Eve, the TSR gals are visited by friend to the 'other side' and friend of the show, Mikey Domitrovich. Spoooooky lessons occur as Mikey gives the girls a lesson in channeling earthly and other worldly spirits. Roses & Thorns transform to Tricks & Treats as Elizabeth and Steph chat dry brushing, drag queens, and super moons. ~OOOOOooO~

Oct 30, 2015
Ep 32: Eat Clean Eat Whole (guests: Whitney Tingle and Danielle DuBois)

Fresh off a steak meal, Elizabeth and Stephanie are joined by plant-based food experts and Sakara Life founders, Whitney Tingle and Danielle DuBois. The ladies share how their personal journey with health and their belief in food as medicine sparked the entrepreneurial spirit that created their much buzzed about food delivery service, Sakara Life. On the delivery tip - as the girls recap their highs and lows of the week, Stephanie discovers a new favorite NSFW specialty delivery service of her own. Make sure to use the promo code SORETROGRADE on any upcoming orders of Sakara LIfe to receive 50% off!

Oct 19, 2015
Ep 31: Haute Messes (guest: Ashley Tisdale)

Boss gal Ashley Tisdale joins TSR to speak candidly with Elizabeth and Stephanie on overcoming fears, turning 30, and what inspired her newest venture: the female-driven website, The Haute Mess.

Oct 16, 2015
Ep 30: The 80/20 Experience (guest: Kimberly Van Der Beek)

This retrograde brings wife, mother, humanitarian (and our hosts' newest spirit guide), Kimberly Van Der Beek to the show to share some of her tried and true life hacks with Elizabeth and Stephanie. Kimberly breaks down the idea of an 80/20 lifestyle - a realistic approach to living a greener and cleaner life. Now THAT’s soooo retrograde.

Oct 05, 2015
Ep 29: Modern Manhood (guest: Jesse Israel)

Elizabeth and Stephanie sit down with general hot guy Jesse Israel to discuss his new project, 'The Modern Man Experiment,' where he breaks down the pillars of modern masculinity and divulges in how meditation can take you there. Also, the girls aren't too happy with people who abuse power and have a thorny conversation about what's what.

Sep 29, 2015
Ep 28: Waking Up With Retrograde (guest: Ryan Weiss)

In the spirit of the Jewish New Year, Elizabeth and Stephanie take some time to reflect on what to let go and what to call in. They welcome back mindfulness teacher Ryan Weiss who breaks down the meaning of the holidays and offers some takeaway practices honoring the new year and retrograde… just because. Speaking of ‘just because,’ the TSR gals dive into the importance of sock containment as a personality litmus test, why TV is Steph’s new Etsy, and why being informed and spreading love is what they’re planning to call in for the new year.

Sep 22, 2015
Ep 27: Eating Right For Your Life Type (guest: Annie Jubb)

Elizabeth and Stephanie are joined by the CEO of LifeFood Organic and certified nutritionist Annie Jubb as they explore the raw food movement, discuss the value of nutritional supplements, and basically learn how to live their best life. Speaking of living your best life... the girls also dish on Elizabeth's encounter with Oprah and Stephanie's newest (and possibly most adult) purchase: a television.

Sep 15, 2015
Ep 26: Let’s Get Metaphysical (guest: Londin Angel Winters)

The TSR gals are joined by Londin Angel Winters, co-founder of Metaphysical Fitness and Mindful Sculpt, and discuss what it means to be present and mindful in your fitness practice and how to 'love' your weight off. Elizabeth and Stephanie also answer some listener mail and check in with Venus to see what to expect for September.

Sep 07, 2015
Ep 25: The RYOT Act (guest: Molly Swenson)

In an effort to stay informed and not get the ‘blahs’ from the ever-depressing 24 hour news cycle, the girls invite Molly Swenson, COO of, to join the conversation. They discuss some current stories of note and the mission of ​ - which provides an actionable solution for every story it covers​,​ empowering a new generation of media consumers.

Aug 31, 2015
Ep 24: Straight Outta Retrograde (guest: Olivia Thirlby)

The TSR gals are joined by long-time pal/indie movie queen/magic human Olivia Thirlby. OT shares her tips on natural beauty care and the girls talk all about living your best life a la being comfortable in who you are. Also Olivia shares her fave summer caffeinated beverage treat - the thirst is real, guys.

Aug 26, 2015
Ep 23: No Tox Life (guest: Sandee Ferman)

The TSR gals are joined by Sandee Ferman, founder of No Tox Life, an artisanal natural toxin-free vegan body care line, and learn what it really means to have toxin free beauty and body products.

Aug 17, 2015
Ep 22: The Local Rose Ceremony (guest: Shiva Rose)

Shiva Rose of The Local Rose joins the TSR gals to give her rosiest recommendations for the summer.

Aug 10, 2015
Ep 21: Burn One Down (guest: Emily L’Ami)

Emily L'Ami from Bodha Modern Wellness joins the TSR girls on this week's episode where they talk all about scents, home wellness, and using incense in ritual practice. Elizabeth also learns about the true meaning of truffle butter and major warning - it's definitely NSFW.

Jul 20, 2015
Ep 20: Radiant Humans (guest: Christina Lonsdale)

Elizabeth & Stephanie go on a friend date to get their aura’s read, like real woes. They invite Aura Photographer, Christina Lonsdale of Radiant Human, to talk about the experience.

Jul 13, 2015
Ep 19: Gut Instincts (guest: Dr. Pamela)

The TSR gals sit down with the esteemed and wise Dr. Pamela and learn about what a probiotic really is and what all people who poop should do to keep that gut on the healthy side. Dr. Pamela also learns what emojis and the Bachelorette are, so you could say this episode is pretty equal ground on useful information.

Jul 06, 2015
Ep 18: That’s So Groov3y (guest: Benjamin Allen)

Founder of Groov3 dance and Elizabeth's favorite dance teacher Benjamin Allen joins TSR this week to talk about his experience in the world of dance as fitness. The TSR gals also celebrate SCOTUS’ ruling on same sex marriage #LoveWins

Jun 29, 2015
Ep 17: Roses & Thorns (guest: No one)

Hey guys! We come out on Mondays now! On this very special edition of That's So Retrograde, Steph and Elizabeth devote the entire episode to their favorite game of self and cultural reflection, Roses & Thorns. Exploring the the highs and lows of the week both personally and hot topic-ly: this episode takes a cue from Degrassi and “goes there” covering: home-delivery STD tests, period and tampon safety, the LA cauliflower appetizer wars AND a whole lot of trans talk from gender to racial to fats. Oh my!

Jun 22, 2015
Ep 16: Summer Glow (guests: Jessie Groveman and Tara Solati)

The prodigal Stephanie Simbari returns this week! Today, we hear from their spiritual twins from an alternate universe - the How You Glow gals Jessie Groveman and Tara Solati - on their recommendations for a glowy summer. In the process, they may have formed a girl band. Casual.

Jun 12, 2015
Ep 15: Painted by Numbers (guest: Josh Siegel)

When in doubt – look to the numbers. That’s what people say, right? Numerologist Josh Siegel joins Elizabeth Kott on today’s episode where they talk the meaning behind a person’s ‘numbers’ and how that affects someone’s life journey and ultimate destiny.

Jun 06, 2015
Ep 14: Nutritional Value (guest: Elissa Goodman)

Elizabeth Kott sits with holistic nutritionist Elissa Goodman and they discuss the best way to give your body the nutrients it needs. Together, they work through and discover what works best for their body and give the lowdown on healthy recipes, probiotics, and caffeine.

May 22, 2015
Ep 13: Revisiting Retrograde (guest: Ryan Weiss)

Lucky number 13! For our thirteenth episode of TSR, Elizabeth and guest co-host Ryan Weiss get into the significance of the number 13 and what vibes it gives off. The duo also REvisit the upcoming retrograde in Gemini with psychic guru/tarot card reader Angie Banicki and the three ruminate on what to expect.

May 15, 2015
Ep 12: #GirlYouMightNeedMakeUp (guest: Seth Matlins)

Girl, you don’t need make-up! Well, unless you want it... but, do you actually want it? Or do you only think you want it because society tells you you do?…I'm dizzy just thinking about it and not because I'm high off make-up fumes. In this episode the TSR gals discuss this and truth in advertising with marketing expert, activist and champion of feminist rights Seth Matlins. Moral of the story: be conscious, not self conscious. You're welcome.

May 08, 2015
Ep 11: Third Eye Not Blind (guest: Mikey Domitrovich)

This episode gets now-agey AF as the TSR gals feel out their psychic intuition with extra dimensional wellness expert Mikey Domitrovich. Together, they discuss how and why one seeks spiritual guidance of the extra dimensional variety.

May 01, 2015
Ep 10: Call Me Maybe (guest: Neel Shah)

This week the TSR gals discuss dating and relationships in the modern world with all of technology's woes with Neel Shah, writer and co-author of "Read Bottom Up - A Novel," Fun Fact: both our hosts have been on a date with Neel, this is discussed. Thus, it gets real.

Apr 24, 2015
Ep 9: The Hokey Pokey (guest: Sarah Schwab)

Elizabeth and Stephanie get into the details of the ancient Chinese practice of acupuncture with licensed acupuncturist Sarah Schwab.

Apr 17, 2015
Ep 8: Wanderlusting (guest: Jedidiah Jenkins)

The TSR gals get the honest details about the intricacies of fulfilling one's wanderlust from expert traveler, writer, and overall beautiful soul: Jedidiah Jenkins.

Apr 10, 2015
Ep 7: Poop There It Is (guest: Fatima Lowe Williams)

The So Retrograde Girls are the shit. Literally. As they talk all things internal cleansing, more commonly known as colonics, w/ colon hygienist, nutritionist and founder of Holistic Life, Fatima Lowe Williams. Disclaimer: This show is about poop so if you don't poop this episode may not be for you.

Mar 27, 2015
Ep 6: I Woke Up Like This (guest: Ryan Weiss)

The TSR gals break down the art of the morning practice with #FLAWLESS individual and life coach Ryan Weiss.

Mar 20, 2015
Ep 5: That’s A Read (guest: Angie Banicki)

Elizabeth and Stephanie sit down with Angie Banicki, tarot reader to the stars, to find out what the cards have to say about their paths.

Mar 13, 2015
Ep 4: Because, Badass (guest: Emily Greener)