A Non Mom Happy Hour

By Kelly Nerdzilla Mendenhall and Debbie Jo Nelson

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Ashley Emerson
 Sep 2, 2018
How do i even start, I love Kelly and Debbie Jo. I am a mom and this is my escape from my every day life. I get to hear about life where I don't have to hear about kids and I just love that I can use this time just for myself.


Celebrating real ass human women, whether they use their baby box or not.

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Episode 28: Chronic Migraine, Bouncy Boxers, and a Messy Wedding Dress

This week the Non Moms get to hang with Stefanie Davis in the virtual studio! Stefanie is a Spoonie living with Chronic Migraine who has built a freelance and film career that honors her body's unique needs and limitations while pursuing her creative passions.

After leaving the corporate banking world, Stefanie began as an actress and in 2015, she stepped behind the camera as a director, producer, and script supervisor. Films such as "Migraine Hell," "Speed Dating," and "BS Meeting" made their debuts with glowing reviews. Her award-winning production company, Bouncy Boxer Media, has created films that have screened in festivals around the globe. Through relatable characters and natural dialogue, Stefanie strives to tell stories that will resonate with audiences. Her first feature film, "Hot Mess In A Wedding Dress," is a character-driven story that will connect with both men and women. Stefanie's goal is to continue to tell the stories of underrepresented people of all shapes, sizes, and colors. Every story is important.

The ladies talk with Stefanie about good doctors, bad doctors, botox injections, The Migraine Diet, the pain bias against women, and what life can be like day-to-day when living with a somewhat unpredictable chronic pain condition while building successful creative and professional pursuits.

Places you can find Stefanie:

Website: http://bouncyboxermedia.com 
Official Trailer (2019) Romantic Comedy HD https://youtu.be/L7eJNeh9ot4
Twitter: https://twitter.com/HotMessMovie
Feb 10, 2019
Episode 27: Honoring Maya Angelou & Carol Daronch (F*ck Ted Bundy)


You'll notice something different about this episode... A NEW THEME SONG! That's right, bitches, we got a super legit custom theme song from the very talented Keybeaux and we could not be more pumped about it. We hope all of our long-time listeners love it too. If you want to work with Keybeaux you can find him on Fiverr as Burtonm6. He was a dream to work with. Many thanks again to our pals at Honesty Check   for helping us make that connection happen.

Now, on to the show!

This week Kelly kicks things off by telling Debbie Jo all about Maya Angelou. Kelly had been an admirer of Angelou's for years but even she didn't know about half of this woman's badassery. Kelly's decision to talk about Angelou was borne out of the desire to honor Black History Month and get to know more about important women of color in history. If you haven't ever heard Angelou's voice, Kelly encourages you to Google & YouTube as much as you possibly can. The woman had an unmatched way with words, but even her voice is musical and poetic.  

Debbie Jo then fills Kelly in on Carol Daronch, one of only a handful of survivor's of serial killer Ted Bundy, and for a long time, the only known survivor. Carol fought her ass off and not only got away from this monster but took with her the evidence that would eventually bring his ass down. She even stood up against him in court, as he represented himself as his own defense and questioned her on the witness stand. F*ck Ted Bundy, who we should be talking about is the amazing women that survived him. So, Debbie Jo did just that!

Sources used for research on this episode:


Biography.com Editors



https://www.mayaangelou.com/biography/ (video excerpt)




The Only Living Witness


Feb 03, 2019
Episode 26: Fly Swatters & White Privilege

Lawd have mercy, Y'all. Did the Non Moms get into some real sh*t this week...

This week Debbie Jo & Kelly had the distinct honor of welcoming Dr. Froswa' Booker-Drew to the show. 

Dr. Booker-Drew is the author of Rules of Engagement: Making Connections Last. This workbook (which you can buy on Amazon by clicking here) helps women understand their stories so that they can build stronger relationships. Froswa' has Ph.D. from Antioch University in Leadership and Change with a focus on relational leadership, social capital, diverse women, and their barriers to change.  

Do you know what they say about well-behaved women not changing the world? Well, it's a good thing for the world that the three of us are not and never will be well-behaved. The ladies talked about nonprofit work, (white) privilege, how to be better allies and advocates -- especially in the nonprofit sector -- and bringing others to the table alongside us.

They talked about the importance of mentors in the lives of young people and even adults, especially young adults in college and graduate school. Each of the ladies shared personal experiences in professional settings and in settings as mentors and mentees. It might sound like it was all business this week but trust us, there were plenty of laughs. 

To learn more about Froswa' and her company, Soulstice Consultancy, you can visit her website at http://froswasrules.com/main_page.html

Honestly, this episode is officially in Debbie Jo & Kelly's top 5 favorite episodes recorded so far.

Oh! Guess what?! A Non Mom Happy Hour has it's very own theme song now! WHAT??! That's right. But you can't hear it on this episode, so if you want to hear it before next week, you'll have to hit up our Patreon support page for exclusive first access. (https://www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour)

Alternative links for purchasing Froswa's book:


Featured Promos:

Mouse and Weens
The Working Stiffs Podcast

Jan 28, 2019
Episode 25: Unbreakable Isabella Bird & The Angels of the Western Front

This week, Debbie kicks things off telling Kelly about Isabella Bird - 19th Century explorer, photographer, writer, and naturalist... and possibly Kelly in a former life 😉. This lady was a true-blue badass and wasn’t shy about speaking up for what she thought was right and good. She was also a fucking survivor and accomplished a helluva lot in spite of persistent spinal and other health issues.


Kelly then shares the story of Mairi Chisholm & Elsie Knocker, also known as “The Madonnas/Angels of Pyrvese.” These were the ONLY two ladies allowed on the Western Front in WWI, and for good reason: they were badasses. They saved the lives of thousands of men wounded on the front — the number one took they utilized? Their motorcycles.


The ladies are super excited to be back in the normal flow of things in the New Year and appreciate all of the love and support you guys have been throwing at Kelly while she recovers from becoming a cyborg. She’s decided to call her implant Robert. Like Robert (Im)Plant. Get it? Yeah, there’s a reason why her nickname is Nerdzilla. 



Sites used for research this week:


https://www.visitflanders.com/en/her-side-of-the-war/mairi-and-alsie/ (Her Side of the War)



BBC Video Archives


Promos featured:

American Slacker and Boobies & Noobies

Jan 21, 2019
Episode 24: Confidence & Being a Real Ass Human

It's our first episode of the New Year, and the ladies were so excited to be back in the studio! Especially Kelly, who is officially a cyborg, and entering week three of her post-op recovery. 

Our first guest of 2019 is Trish Blackwell and she is a freaking powerhouse, Y'all! She's a Confidence Coach, author, Podcast host, and the list goes one. She does it all while momming, too. You want to know how to be a mom and still grow as an individual person with your own interests and pursuits? You should check out her podcasts, The Confidence Podcast, and The Confident Mom Podcast


Sexual assault/trauma, Eating Disorders

The ladies talk with Trish about how we can turn our worst moments into our greatest sources of triumph and confidence. They talk about trauma, PTSD, living with chronic pain and illness, living authentically, and being a real ass human. The ladies also talk a bit about body image and Trish opens up about her history with disordered eating serious body confidence issues for years while coaching others as a fitness coach. She got really good at projecting an image of success and checking all of the boxes for a good life... and yet she was kind of miserable.

You can learn more about Trish and the work she does by visiting http://www.trishblackwell.com/. You can also find her on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/trishblackwellfitness.


Jan 14, 2019
Episode 23: Enneagrams & Mechanerdzilla

It feels like it's been forever since we got to hang out with you all, and it kind of has been! The holidays make it tough, especially for a Spoonie, so we gave ourselves a Christmas break.

We're kicking it old school for this, our New Year's Eve episode! The show starts with an update from Kelly about all things spine cord stimulator trial; the process a patient goes through with the trial implant and preparing for the permanent implant surgery. It's long-winded but necessary.

Then, Debbie Jo tells us all about the Enneagram Test. Like so many other things, Kelly had not heard of the Enneagram Test until Debbie Jo came into her life, and the first time she took it was at approximately 11 pm while half asleep on muscle relaxers.

If you haven't taken the Enneagram Test, you totally should, because it will help you understand yourself more in all aspects of life -- personal, romantic, and professional. It's pretty rad.

As it turns out, Debbie is a 3 (The Achiever) and Kelly is a 4 (The Individualist.) Lucky for all of us, these two types complement each other in partnerships! We also challenge each other, so it's a good balance.

You can learn more about different personality types at https://www.enneagraminstitute.com

You can take a free test at https://www.yourenneagramcoach.com/ (if you're Debbie Jo) or https://enneagramtest.net/  (if you're Kelly.)

Finally, it's the end of a big year for us at A Non Mom Happy Hour, not just because of the podcast but in our network marketing businesses and with the launch of Kelly's personal website and book presales, Debbie Jo's new life coaching business... it's been a year, Y'all!

On New Years Eve 2017 if you had told us that we would be this excited about the year behind us and the year to come, we would have told you that you were high. Yet, here we are. Thank you for being a part of it all with us!

Dec 31, 2018
Episode 22: Real Life Tank Girl & Un-Making Murderers

This week was really a lot of fun for the Non Moms. Neither knew what woman the other had chosen to talk about, so surprises abound!

Debbie Jo kicks things off by telling Kelly all about Mariya Oktyabrskaya, the real-life tank girl who swore to avenge her husband's death and squash Nazi fascists with her very own T-34 tank during WWII. Mariya is about as badass as you can get, ladies and gentlemen. After her husband was killed in 1941 it took two years for word to make it to her. When she received the news, she sprung into action to seek revenge. She worked day and night for months to raise the 55,000 Russian Rubles needed to finance the tank build and once the funds were raised she wrote the Kremlin to tell them of her plan. If you want the rest of the story, you'll have to listen!

Next, Kelly tells Debbie all about Kathleen Zellner, attorney at law. If you think you've heard this name before, it's likely because you've watched the docu-series Making a Murderer (Part 2) on Netflix. Mrs. Zellner is the attorney for none other than Steven Avery. But this is just one of the famous cases that Zellner has served on.

To put it simply: Kathleen Zellner is a justice-serving badass who rights wrongs in cases involving wrongful death and medical malpractice, wrongful convictions, and exonerations. Zellner's firm has helped free seven men from death row and Zellner has righted more wrongful prosecutions than any other private attorney in America. What drives Zellner to fight so hard for what is right? You'll have to listen to find out! 


As always, thank you for listening, this week and every week. If you haven't done so already, it would mean the world to us if you would rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast on your favorite listening app.


Sites utilized for research in this episode include:

For Mariya Oktyabrskaya:


For Kathleen Zellner:

The Telegraph (Chicago Newspaper) Archives (Google)


Dec 17, 2018
Episode 21: Worst Dates, Drunk Debbie, & Shame Receipts

This week is one hell of a special treat! Debbie Jo & Kelly had the pleasure of recording with Keegan, Cassi, and Christina from My Worst Date. Y'all, they laughed so hard at some points that they broke Zencastr. The virtual studio crashed more than once. Whoops! It was totally worth it though because it is some of the most fun they've ever had.


Debbie Jo shared her two biggest shame receipts and tells the story of how her worst shame receipt resulted in her happily ever after. She also talks about single Debbie's propensity for making bad choices on Tinder.

Kelly tells the story of her worst date ever brought to her by the OKCupid dating app. She also shares the stories of her two worst breakups as well as her irrational fear of the loss of gravity. Best part? She's not alone!

Friendships were forged on this episode. Serious bonding happened. Also, Debbie Jo and Kelly acknowledged their 1 Year Friend-i-versary! That's right, one full year of finishing each other's thoughts, being each other's human panic room(s), and partnering on a podcast even though they've never even been in the same room.

The ladies of My Worst Date and A Non Mom Happy Hour also recorded a special minisode where they play a special game of F*ck, Marry, Kill and Debbie Jo and Kelly dish on their relationship "deal-breakers." If you want to listen you'll have to hit up the My Worst Date Patreon! (www.patreon.com/myworstdate

Dec 09, 2018
Episode 20: Birth Control & America's First Lady Detective

This week the ladies launch a new format. Each week that guests are not being interviewed, or there isn't some special topic to be covered, each of the hosts will choose one lady to tell each other and the audience about.

These may be important women in history, women that the hosts find fascinating or admire, women living or dead. 

On this episode, Kelly tells about Margaret Sanger, who fought admirably to normalize birth control and make contraceptives accessible for women in the early 1900s. She was also responsible in part for the oral contraceptive, or birth control pill as well as founding the American Birth Control League, the precursor for what would become Planned Parenthood Federation. Kelly also opens up about her own personal history and the secret she's been carrying for about 8 years.

Debbie Jo tells the story of Kate Warne, America's first female detective who worked closely with Allan Pinkerton, America's first private eye. Interestingly, it was Kate Warne who successfully protected President Abraham Lincoln from the first assassination attempt against his life. Kate Warne is a historical figure shrouded in mystery, as there are no records of her life prior to her time working with Pinkerton.


Websites cited for research:
ABC News, Maggie Fox, Abortion in the US: 5 Key Facts


Dec 03, 2018
Episode 19: Grief, Self-Care & The Holidays

This week things get personal when the ladies each share personal stories of grief and loss and discuss how grief, just like recovery in other areas, is not linear. The holidays can be a hard time for folks, especially as concerns the loss of loved ones whether recently or in the distant past.

The Non Moms would like to remind everyone to do whatever they need to do to survive and care for themselves this holiday season, including refusing to participate in so-called social obligations and family parties. Don't 'should' yourselves to death!

Additionally, Debbie Jo shares an exciting update regarding her professional ventures and Kelly shares an exciting update about her medical care plan and upcoming surgeries. 

To everyone celebrating, we would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving!

Oh, and check out our Patreon site, at https://www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour where you can now find our first minisode, where Kelly recounts the story of the time she fought two guys at once, as promised in Episode 18.

Nov 19, 2018
Episode 18: Election Hangovers & C U Next Tuesdays

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly sit down with Adina from Honesty Check Podcast to talk about all things Midterm Election results. Two of the ladies felt a little bit like they were nursing an emotional hangover, if we're being honest, though Debbie Jo seems to have come out fairly well, being in Michigan. Did you know that Kelly has a strong aversion to Marsha Blackburn? A very strong aversion. 

In response to a fan topic request from Ashley in Tennessee, Adina talks about self-care as a mom and wife. Adina believes that sometimes you've got to put yourself first if you want to effectively take care of and be there for your family. (Maybe you want to consider a girls trip now and then, ladies.) 

Please remember that those podcast listeners who rate, review, and subscribe on their respective podcast listening apps help A Non Mom Happy Hour rise in the rankings and become more valuable to advertisers and therefore, help make the continued creation and production of the show more sustainable.

For those who like to be rewarded for their listenership, for as little as $3 a month, you can gain access to all Patreon-exclusive content and posts, including special episodes, written stories, videos, and photos. Just hit our Patreon page for more information! This week, Kelly will pen the story the big fight referenced in today's episode. 

Nov 12, 2018
Episode 17: The Kids are Alright...Mostly

This week Kelly delivers a health update after a day-long trip to the Emergency Room when her leg kept swelling up like a balloon throughout the last week. Spoiler alert, she's ok. And it turns out that compression stockings don't have to be ugly. A new diagnosis may also be on the horizon for our dear Nerdzilla.

Debbie Jo and Kelly also share stories of the things that they did when they were children and teenagers that are likely the real reasons behind why neither of them has children. The good news is that they turned out ok in the end and your kids probably will too. Mostly.

The ladies would like to remind all of their listeners to rate, review, and subscribe on whatever listening app they utilize. Also, check out www.anonmomhappyhour.com to get to know the gals better, figure out which voice goes with which personality, send them love notes or topic ideas, and check out their merch store and Patreon site. 

Nov 05, 2018
Episode 16: Strippers, Sex Workers, and Success

This week, amidst conversations regarding the gymnastic prowess of pole-dancers and Kelly's aversion to pornography, the ladies talk about what success looks like and defining success beyond the balance of your bank account. 

Debbie Jo also shares the results of her Enneagram Test and opens up about her new part-time gig as a barista and why it was hard for her to decide whether or not to talk about that, publicly. Being an extrovert with social anxiety can be a bitch, Y'all.

Kelly gives a shout-out to My Worst Date Podcast as well as Considered and Conceited Film Club. (Check out Episode 20 of My Worst Date to hear the retelling of Kelly's worst date ever.)

Finally, the ladies get to announce the official launch of www.anonmomhappyhour.com!!! Sponsors and friends, Lore de Force designed a dynamic and gorgeous site for the Podcast and the ladies could not be more thrilled with the results.

Check it out, find the merch store, leave a love note for Kelly and Debbie Jo, see the story behind the friendship and Podcast, visit the Patreon site, and more!

As always, please... pretty please with sugar on top, rate, review, and subscribe.

Oct 29, 2018
Episode 15: Politics, Allies, and the Art of Speaking Up

On this very special episode of A Non Mom Happy Hour, the ladies hosted their first ever male guest! Political scientist, Veteran, and host of the podcast Political Thoughts with Steve, Steven Goff joined the ladies for a discussion of male-female allyship, all things Kavanaugh and SCOTUS, and much, much more!

Kelly and Debbie Jo are also thrilled to announce the official launch of www.anonmomhappyhour.com as well as our Patreon site! Thanks to our very special friends and first official sponsors, Lore de Force for helping to make both of these sites greater than we could have dreamed!

So, what's the deal with Patreon? Patreon is essentially a crowd-funding site for creators, like us, to receive financial support from fans, admirers, and collaborators so that we can keep bringing our podcast to you.

We pour our hearts and souls into this Podcast and we want to reach as many people as possible. This show is what we were born to do -- raising awareness, serving as allies and advocates, empowering women, and making people laugh as much as possible. We don’t just want this to be a hobby, we want it to be a huge part of both of our futures and careers. 

That means that we need support from listeners, fans, and collaborators to cover costs associated with website maintenance, recording equipment and technology, post-production software and labor, and travel and conference fees. Patreon contributions will go to cover all of these costs and allow us to continue producing weekly content for our broader audience, as well as exclusive bonus episodes, videos, blogs, and more for our contributors! 

Stay tuned, as we plan on posting Patreon content this week! (Just in case you missed the link to our Patreon site earlier, here it is again.)

Oct 22, 2018
Episode 14: Questions & Answers & Spiders, Oh My!

This week the ladies answer questions sent in by YOU, the listeners! Hear the story of how they met, why they started the podcast, what makes Kelly so nerdy, and much, much more! 

Special thanks to the Not Suitable for Work Podcast Network and the ladies of Honesty Check Podcast for sending in questions. Also, special thanks to fans Ashley, Skylar, and Phil. 

This episode was a boatload of fun to record, and the ladies hope you have as much fun listening!

Stay tuned for next week, when we have our first male guest, host of Political Thoughts with Steve, Steve Goff! 


Oct 14, 2018
Episode 13: Forgiveness & The Business of Being Human

This week the ladies take on the topic of forgiveness. 

The dictionary definition of forgiveness is as follows:
  1. the action or process of forgiving or being forgiven. 
    • synonyms: pardon, absolution, exoneration, etc. 
But what does that actually mean?! And why does it feel like oneself can be the hardest person in the world to forgive?
Each of the ladies grapples with their own need to forgive themselves and others, realizing in the process that they've been punishing themselves in a strange sense and operating from a space of resentment and fear that has held them back in both their professional and creative ventures.
Oct 08, 2018
Episode 12: Anti-Semites and Craftivism

On this week's episode, Debbie Jo and Kelly talk with special guest and fellow true crime nerd, Alexandra Weingartner, about speaking up when it is most important and even if it makes some folks uncomfortable.

Alex reads and discuses her poem, which appeared in a My Favorite Murder fan subgroup, and is how Debbie Jo and Kelly first became aware of her and her poetry.

The poem is as follows (and was posted without title):

We won't conceal a Nazi in the shadows of our group,
There's levels where the rest of us would never dare to stoop.
If Anti-Semites find a place to shelter in your gaze,
You cannot then be welcome here to darken up our days.
Six million people died, their only crime was being born,
So many souls left tortured, and left millions more to mourn.
So, Holly, if a Nazi is who might appeal to you,
May I suggest you pack up and go back to '42?

The ladies also discuss the #WhyIDidntReport Twitter movement and how one may sometimes struggle with being an entrepreneur and an activist, or a Spoonie and an activist. When do we speak up? When do we not? If we're not speaking up, why aren't we?

If you see something, say something.

For more of Alex's poems check out the Facebook group, Write Us a Poem, Weingartner. You may also find her Facebook page, Weingartner Rhymes, here. Finally, to see Alex's poems and paintings and other crafty things, visit her Instagram, @weingartnercreates.

Sep 30, 2018
Episode 11: The Dreamers & The Doers

This week, Kelly and Debbie Jo talk about money mindset and coming up blue collar. They each tell the stories of how they became entrepreneurs in spite of all of the personal history, education, and mindset that told them they should be/do just about anything else.

Each share their histories in the nonprofit sector prior to becoming business women, and touch a bit on how anxiety-inducing that was, and still can be, for each of them. 

Normally this would have been the week for the gals to have a guest on the show, but the guest who was scheduled had an emergency pop up. Life happnes!

Stay tuned for Episode 12 to hear from our next guest!

Spoiler alert: She's a fellow Murderino, an artist, and a poet.

Sep 23, 2018
Episode 10: Self-Care & Minding Your Own Damn Business

This ish is about to get real, y'all. 

On this episode, Debbie Jo and Kelly tackle self-care and personal care choices, and staying in your own damn lane. It's not up to anyone else to tell you how to best take care of yourself or question your care choices.

Why do so many people on the internet think they've earned some kind of magical medical degree just because they've read a few articles about your condition/illness/whatever? They don't know what it's like to be you. Even if they share some of the same diagnoses, their experience of those diagnoses may be entirely different from your own. 

Your job, above all else, is to survive. You get to do whatever you have to do to survive, regardless of the petty opinions and unsolicited medical advice dished out by keyboard warriors, well-intentioned busy-bodies, and overly opinionated loved ones.

Sep 16, 2018
Episode 09: Accessibility & Guilty Pleasures

On this episode the ladies interview Abbie Díaz, Director of Education at the Wisconsin Maritime Museum. Abbie has worked in thirteen museums and heritage sites across four states. Formerly in the field of Archaeology, Abbie has worked exclusively in museum education for the past five years.

Abbie is on a mission to make museums and historical sites and, really, the world, more accessible to all people, regardless of their unique needs and limitations. Accessibility and inclusivity are her thing. Her battle cry is, "Museums are for everyone." And she means everyone.

We aren't the only ones who think that Abbie is a total badass -- Abbie recently won an award from the freaking Kennedy Center in recognition of her work!

You can follow Abbie on Twitter at @abslovesmuseums

Sep 16, 2018
Episode 08: Hoop Earrings & Rape Culture

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly talk about straight f***ery in East Tennessee, where a high school teacher held a special meeting with female students to tell them about how they can expect to be respected or not be respected based on the clothing and accessories they wear.

The ladies discuss the perpetuation of rape culture and their own experiences sexual assault and the struggle for women who must decide whether to report or not to report.

Trigger Warning: Sexual Assault

While graphic details are not shared, Kelly does speak pretty specifically about an attempted rape/sexual assault she experienced at age 14. Debbie discusses betrayal by the legal system when she reported her abuser.

To lighten things up a bit, the show is brought to a close with a story about something super rad and charitable that happened to Kelly last week, as well as Podcast recommendations from Debbie Jo.

Sep 02, 2018
Episode 07: Chocolate Sprinkles & Badassery

On this week's episode Debbie Jo and Kelly interview badass extraordinatire Marielle Evertsz of Keeping it Real Me: Life Coaching for Teen Girls.

The ladies discuss antiquated Dutch traditions, the magical delight of chocolate sprinkles on toast, (Hagelslag for those in the know) and the enormous stress and pressure that teens and young women find themselves living under these days.

The world is more accessible than ever in the age of social media and the internet -- this can be both a blessing and a curse.

Marielle was the first ever international guest on the Happy Hour, and the ladies very much enjoyed having her. 

Note for our regular listeners: 

We tried a new intro format this week, and we'd love to know what you think! We have a poll going in the Facebook group, or you can yell at us on Instagram or Twitter, or send us an email to nonmomhappyhour@gmail.com

Aug 27, 2018
Episode 06: Anxiety Spirals & Cyborgs

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly talk about their recent challenges with managing all of their roles, projects, and mental health self-care.


The ladies also talk about how one can be a good friend to someone living with chronic pain /invisible illness and/or mental health diagnoses by simply letting them off the hook from time to time.


Also there was cyborgs. And talk of male strippers.

Aug 19, 2018
Episode 05: Poverty & The Pink Tax

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly talk with Teysha Lemanski of Cloth Connection Outreach. Teysha is a mom, a Spoonie, an Etsy store owner, and general badass who founded CCO to help meet the needs of other women who may lack affordable access to reusable feminine health products.

CCO is an entirely volunteer-based organization near Detroit, Michigan, that distributes reusable cups and pad kits to women in need. The ladies talk about poverty and living in the middle of not making enough money to survive but making too much to receive assistance, where it can be difficult to access feminine health resources. 

They also discuss the "Pink Tax" and the barriers that are presented to women living in poverty or experiencing homelessness because, while the FDA qualifies period products as medical devices, menstruation itself is not considered a medical condition... 

Why the fuck should it be so hard to be a woman and access the products we need for reproductive health and hygiene?! 

Want to know more about Cloth Connection Outreach (follow the hashtag #cco!) and how you can help? Check out www.clothconnectionoutreach.org.

You can donate directly to CCO via Paypal at paypal.me/ccoutreachprogram

You can also follow CCO and their efforts on Facebook and Instagram, at @clothconnectionoutreach.

Aug 13, 2018
Episode 04: Drivers' Licenses Don't Grow on Trees

On this episode, Debbie Jo and Kelly talk about being an extroverted person(s) with rampant social anxiety.  The ladies also relived some of their most embarassing moments, as children and, in Debbie's case, as an adult. Busted by her mom. For public drunkenness.

Aug 05, 2018
Episode 03: Recovery & Keychains

On this week's episode Debbie Jo and Kelly interview Claire M. Biggs and Jennie Armstrong, of Lore de Force.

Trigger Warning: The four of us discuss being survivors of sexual assault and abuse, and speak on how we cope and our experiences with PTSD and recovery.

Jul 30, 2018
Episode 02: Aliens and Authenticity

This week some real vulnerabilty happened! We talked about theremins communicating with aliens, relapsing with our respective mental health disorders and diagnoses, and gave a big fat THANK YOU to everyone who has been patient and supportive while we overcame our technology issues and as we continue to work out some of the kinks!

Jul 23, 2018
Episode 01: Copper Crosses and Sticky Monsters

On this episode, meet your hosts. Hear about Debbie's horrifying experience trying to get an IUD and the story of Kelly's mom, the most bad ass woman she knows. 


Please note: We are recording from two different states, and using relatively new technology to record our Podcast remotely, together. We are aware of the slight sample drops in spots and quiet pops. It's something we're working on and working through with our recording site and some technology upgrades. In other words, please bear with us, we are fucking new at this.

Jul 08, 2018