A Non Mom Happy Hour

By Kelly Nerdzilla Mendenhall and Debbie Jo Nelson

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Ashley Emerson
 Sep 2, 2018
How do i even start, I love Kelly and Debbie Jo. I am a mom and this is my escape from my every day life. I get to hear about life where I don't have to hear about kids and I just love that I can use this time just for myself.


Celebrating real ass, human women whether they use their baby box or not.

Episode Date
Special Crossover Episode: Kelly on Boobies & Noobies

This week’s special feature is, we think, a delightful and fun time with our own Kelly Nerdzilla Mendenhall and “The Other Kelly,” Kelly Reynolds of Boobies & Noobies.

Kelly and Kelly both read the romance novel Calling It by Jen Doyle. After a quick interview, they do a deep dive into the book. Was it sexy? Worth reading? What did they love and hate about it?

Here’s the thing — Non Mom Kelly did not expect to have fun reading this book, but she totally did. And there’s some pretty steamy scenes in it. If you’ve dismissed erotica or romance novels in the past, you may be pleasantly surprised by this book as well!

We hope you enjoy listening as much as Kelly and Kelly enjoyed recording, and we want to thank Kelly Reynolds for allowing us to share this crossover! 

p.s. Non Mom Kelly is recovering well from surgery and her at-home nurse sees her once a week and at-home physical therapist comes twice per week. The first two weeks were very hard but she got through. Yesterday she went up the stairway to the second floor for the first time since before surgery!



Nov 12, 2019
Special Release: Women Conquer Business Crossover

As you know, the podcast is on a bit of a hiatus until the New Year because of Kelly’s big time neurosurgery. But we promised we would be posting some special episodes and collaborations. 

First up is an episode of Women Conquer Business with Jen McFarland! Kelly appeared on the show to be interviewed about her book, the podcast, and her work in Network Marketing.

What Kelly didn’t know at the time was that Jen is actually a HUGE fan of A Non Mom Happy Hour and had been following Nerdzilla Lives! (Kelly’s blog) and things. The two ladies had a lot of fun in the studio, and Kelly talks about the beginning of the show and the friendship that the Non Moms developed from several states away.

Oh, and here’s a nugget of awesome from Jen! She developed a “How-To” guide for launching a podcast! We wish we’d have had this in the beginning. 



Oct 22, 2019
Librarians on Horseback in Eastern Kentucky

A special announcement:

This week's episode is bittersweet as it will be our last, fresh episode until the New Year. Due to many variables, including Kelly's need to focus on healing after her next surgery, the podcast will be on hiatus.⁣⁣ It wasn’t an easy decision. But this next surgery is a doozy, and Kelly owes it to herself and every single fan we've told to put self-care first, to do just that.⁣⁣
Kelly will be in the hospital from October 22 - 25 or 26. She'll be working with occupational therapists to teach her how to navigate her body and life without hurting herself.
Kelly is currently working on book No. 2 which is on medical gaslighting, still writing her blog and newsletter, and generally trying to kick as much ass as she can from the #businesscouch. There’s a promo code of HAPPYHOUR at nerdzillakelly.com/store to receive a discount on Nerdzilla and Mechanerdzilla merch. If you want to keep up with Kelly while we are away, you should subscribe to her newsletter at


On to this week's episode!:

Kelly tells Debbie Jo about the amazing horseback librarians of Eastern Kentucky!  During The Great Depression, The Pack Horse Library Project was launched as part of President Roosevelt's Work Progress Administration -- First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt had a passion for creating jobs that benefited women and children, especially, and saw a great need for literacy and access to education in Kentucky. 

At the time, unemployment in the region was at 40% and about 31% of the population in Eastern Kentucky couldn’t read. But how to deliver books to families living in the Appalachian Mountains, in treacherous terrain and cut off from so much of civilization?

You guessed it -- horseback! The ladies who delivered books, scrapbooks, magazines, and newspapers were definitely everyday heroes. We hope you enjoy learning about them as much as we did. 




Oct 07, 2019
Everybody Ask Win!



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This week Kelly and Debbie Jo got to hang out with Win Kelly Charles! Win is definitely a badass lady. Born with Cerebral Palsy and severe Scoliosis, Win made quite the early entrance into the world, changing her parents lives and the lives of those around her, forever. You can't help but fall in love with Win's spirit and perseverance.

She has authored multiple books, hosts and co-hosts multiple podcasts, and spreads education and awareness about living with Cerebral Palsy and chronic pain, daily. We talked about Spoonie life, fashion for Spoonies and her podcast Diary of a Fashionista, grief & loss, and authenticity!

We hope you enjoy hearing Win's story and our conversation in the virtual studio.

Connect with Win Here:


Make sure you check out her podcast Diary of a Fashionista, on one of these fine listening apps:






Sep 23, 2019
Play Ball!

This week's episode is a hoot!

To keep things interesting Debbie Jo shares again (who needs rules anyway amiright) all about America's favorite pastime, baseball!

The story of Jackie Mitchell is full of controversy, mystery, + badassery. The 17 year old struck out 2 of baseball's best players in an exhibition game on April 2, 1931.

Or did she?

We'll let you decide based on the evidence but we'd love to hear your thoughts + theories so send us a message after you listen!

Thanks for listening this week + every week :)




Sep 16, 2019
Corrections Quadrants & The Destroyer of Men's Souls

We're coming to you this week with our first ever Corrections Quadrant! A new (and hopefully lasting) listener and friend wrote to us in response to our episode last episode and the use of the term "Gypsy" and she offered us some education on Roma culture. If you'd like to learn more about Roma culture, please check out this awesome article

Next, Kelly surprises the heck out of Debbie Jo when she tells her why she's working on removing the word "Y'all" from her vocabulary. All about learning, knowing, and doing better, folks. We're all human and don't have to be perfect, but we should try to be better whenever possible.

Speaking of being a real ass human... This week Debbie Jo tells Kelly about Carrie A. Nation, a somewhat controversial woman in history. We don't want to give too much away in the show notes, so you should definitely listen and draw your own conclusions. Her story begs the question: are badasses and heroes only ever perfect? (Spoiler alert: No.) And Carrie is credited with opening the country's first ever battered women and children's shelter, so there's that! 

Thank you for being with us this week and every week. We had a really great time recording this episode, and Kelly was able to do it from a bedside studio thanks to our distinguished producer, Wade Freeman. Thanks, Wade!

Always be a real as human and have a great week, friends!





Sep 09, 2019
Toni Morrison and Frustrating Audio Kerfuffles

It's been a bit of a hot mess express over here at the Non Mom Happy Hour Virtual Recording Studio the past two weeks. We are going through some growing pains with Squadcast.fm v2.0. We are doing are best to work with the support team at Squadcast.fm and get it figured out. They're just as frustrated as we are, we're sure, so please hang in there with us while we get the kinks out. (For instance, in this episode you'll notice that Debbie Jo's audio isn't up to our usual standards. Long story.)

SURPRISE! We have some new business.

First of all, if you haven't yet, please check out our new-and-improved website, www.anonmomhappyhour.com. We decided that since our podcast audience has had a serious upgrade in recent months, so should our website, and we think it's pretty cool. Find links to all the social meds, our merch store, photos of us at PodX, all kinds of things.

Now, on to the show:

This week Kelly tells Debbie Jo about esteemed American author Toni Morrison. Morrison was important for so many reasons; she challenged so much about how we as a society and culture view race, American beauty standards, civil rights, and the balance of good and evil. It's hard to adequately put into words just how important her work has been and what a loss our country and the world suffered when she passed away in August. We hope you dig the tribute.

Debbie Jo tells Kelly about... no one. You'll have to listen to learn why! Get to it! Thanks for hanging with us, and remember:

Always be a real ass human. (Even if that means you go a week without a podcast episode release, and then your next episode release has audio issues.)













Aug 26, 2019
Neurosurgery, Plumbing Disasters, and Meditation

For you, it's only been two weeks since we recorded and released an episode. For the Non Moms, it has been four weeks. Time is so weird

Our producer has an official pseudonym. You can follow him on Instagram as @Wade.Freeman. Do it. Give him production feedback. It'll be great. (He's going to hate us, which is hilarious.)

This week you can hear all about Kelly's (successful) neurosurgery and hospital experience (so much tragic comedy); Debbie Jo's new meditation and gratitude practices; Kelly's plumbing disaster which of course took place just days after the neurosurgery; our birthdays! That's right, we're both officially older and neither of us is totally comfortable with it. 

This episode, in other words, is a journey through some serious real life, a few disasters, a little bit of success, and a whole lot of fun. Join us next week when we'll have new research for you! 

We love y'all so much. Thanks for being here. Also, please consider checking out our patreon at www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour and becoming a patreon for as little as $3 a month! (We'll send you mail that's not bills. How fun is that?!)

Aug 11, 2019
Suffragists, Communists, & Space Walkers

Ok, ok, so... yes, Debbie Jo said like a dozen times on our last episode that we were going to do an Area 51-themed episode since it would be our 51st. However, Kelly had major brain fog and this episode was recorded the day before her major neurological surgery and she totally freaking forgot

That being said, after a bit of ribbing from Debbie Jo, Kelly kicks things off by telling everyone about Sylvia Pankhurst (thanks mom!) Sylvia was raised by folks who were actually into women's rights and education and raised her as such. She "hated fascism and lipstick," and for a time was very involved in Communism. She drifted from Communism eventually but remained active in movements against fascism and colonialism for all her adult life. She died an Honorary Ethiopian at the age of 78, in 1960.

Debbie Jo stuck to the actual theme of the show and talked about what was supposed to be the first all-female spacewalk, explains that it was canceled, and why. Yes, it's because there weren't enough medium-sized suits, but it actually goes deeper than that. Just listen, trust me, it's worth it. There's also some conspiracy and alien talk thrown in the mix for fun. 

Today marks 10 days since Kelly's surgery, which turned out to be a double laminectomy and full spinal fusion of the C6-C7 vertebrae (there's a cool animated video!) because her spinal disc had actually ruptured. She's recovering well, in spite of a plumbing disaster and stomach virus you're sure to hear all about on next week's episode. Tragic comedy, here we come! 






Jul 29, 2019
Conspiracies + Productivity Hacks

Hey hey friends! Lil bit of a curveball for ya today. Rather than sharing research we are sharing some lessons we've learned in business + in life over the past several years.


Naturally we begin the episode with some hilarity. We chat about conspiracy theories, do you think we actually went to the moon? We also chat about secret experiments, MK Ultra anyone?


Then we share some of our biggest lessons from recent years. Like don't be a big fat jerk + message someone about your acne fighting skincare because they post a picture of them with a giant zit on their face. Try new things but if it doesn't feel right or work how you want it to then stop doing that shit!


Probably the biggest productivity hack of all is to get your ass out + get re-inspired. Hear how we have re-inspired ourselves recently in this episode too.


Thank you for listening you guys!



Jul 21, 2019
Blitzkriegs and Radical Comedy

(It's our producer's fault that this episode is late because he procrastinated. He will henceforth be known as the King of Procrastination Nation.)

This is our last episode before Kelly's big surgery! Kelly goes for spinal fusion on July 18th and becomes part Mechanerdzilla and part Bionic Woman. Don't worry, we'll still have new content to post while Kelly is in recovery because we recorded in advance!

Kelly kicks things off with the story of English chemist and volunteer Air Raid Warden Rosalind Franklin. This Lady Badass stayed on at Cambridge to pursue her studies in spite of the world (figuratively) and bombs (literally) falling down all around her in WWII. Then, she helped discover the structure of DNA molecules, but of course, received no freaking credit for it, because of men.

Debbie Jo lightens the mood with Moms Mabley (born Loretta Mary Aiken), a well-known vaudeville comedian, and prominent member of the African American comedy community's so-called Chitlin' Circuit. It was in the era of segregation in America that Moms Mabley began to gain popularity with black and white audiences. She performed on the Ed Sullivan Show, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, and set a record for performances at the Apollo! Definitely a trailblazer!

Thanks for being here with us this week and every week. Again, we apologize for being late, on behalf of our producer. Please check out our patreon and consider becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour. We look forward to hearing from everyone what you think of this week's show! Byyeee.







Jul 15, 2019
Happy Podiversary, Year One!

Happy one-year podiversary, listeners! Thank you so much for being here with the Non Moms for a whole year of episodes. We are honored to be allowed in your earholes every week. Real talk.

New hashtag: #DontLetKellyGoBankrupt Please consider buying her book! www.nerdzillakelly.com/book. To all of our #Spoonie listeners, hang in there! This life isn't easy or cheap. Thankfully, we have each other. 

Debbie Jo officially kicks the episode off with the life and times of Babe Didrikson Zaharias. Babe was an incredibly accomplished athlete and took home not one, but two Olympic Gold Medals in Track & Field in 1932. She followed that up with becoming a professional golf player and helping to found the Lady's Professional Golf Association (LPGA). Kelly proves beyond a doubt that she was not ever any kind of jock or athlete. Thank goodness Debbie Jo used to play golf, otherwise Kelly would likely not have understood half of what she said about Babe.

Kelly follows Babe up with the story of American poet Phillis Wheatley. Phillis Wheatley is not her birth name, but her slave name, and unfortunately, we do not know her birth name. However, Phillis was the first African American woman to be published as an author in America. Her poetry served as a covert way for her to participate in sociopolitical discussions and support the abolition of slavery, without taking too much heat from colonial white folks about it. This conversation might make you uncomfortable. It's probably supposed to.

Tune in next week for our last episode before Kelly's spinal fusion surgery! There may even be a guest!




Jul 08, 2019
Brain Tumors & The Wild West

Y'all know what time it is! Do you know that next weekend marks 1 year of A Non Mom Happy Hour?! We'll have to think of some special way to celebrate and honor that anniversary with you all. 

This week Kelly kicks things off by telling the story of Mary Putnam Jacobi of the Putnam Publishing family. Mary wasn't just one of America's first female physician's, the first woman to attend Ecole de Medecine in Paris, France, or one of the founders of the Women’s Medical Association of New York City. This woman was so badass and so dedicated to the study of medical science that she even journaled about the symptoms of her own brain tumor for years before finally succumbing to it, to help people better understand the tumors.

Debbie Jo follows with the story of Mary Fields, AKA, Stagecoach Mary. Due to the fact that Mary was born a slave and lived in the wild west, it can sometimes be difficult to distinguish truth from fiction in HERstory. What is very clear, however, is that her level of badassery was at 10/10. Driving stagecoach for the US Postal Service in those days was no joke, but she was up for the task -- even at age 60! She's a lot of fun to learn about! Consider having a nip of whiskey in her honor whilst listening. 

Thanks for being here this week and every week! Always be a real ass human.  






Jun 30, 2019
Kickin' it Old School

This week the Non Moms are kicking it old school. No badass women being celebrated... outside of the hosts, that is.

Kelly has some pretty big news and health updates; she finally fired her terrible doctor! Listen up to hear about why it's so important that Spoonies be tireless advocates for themselves. Or, maybe lean on others to help advocate for them.

Then, Debbie Jo checks in and talks about what it's like to discover suddenly in your mid-twenties that you have legitimate attention deficit issues. Ok, so you finally know... now, how do you deal with it, without being mean to yourself?

It had been a while since we just talked to our listeners about life, stress, mental health awareness, and self-care, and we decided it was past due. We hope you enjoy the episode (especially our long-time listeners) and that whoever needs the messages receives them. (Skippers will hate this episode. MUAHAHAHA...)

If you do enjoy it, then you should definitely check out our Patreon page and consider becoming a monthly patron, because you'll get more of our raw, unfiltered conversations about life, with VIDEO. (Yep, you can see all of the faces we make to make each other cackle-laugh and snort.)

You'll also get mail from us as well as the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that you're helping us keep this podcast going.

Go to www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour and become a patron, today! (Thank you!)


Jun 24, 2019
Pride (Month) & Prejudice

The Non Moms were so excited to be back in the studio this week, after several weeks away! 

Good news and bad news:
Bad news, the audio for our live show at PodX was lost.
Good news: This is a banging ass episode, anyway!

This week Kelly kicks it off by telling Debbie Jo all about Mary Church Terrell, who was actually the badass she covered at the live show. She was so badass that Kelly simply couldn't let her be lost to the evil techno-Gods working against her. Mary was a hell of an activist and was a charter member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People as well as being the founder and president of the National Association of Colored Women.

In honor of Pride Month and at the suggestion of two listeners, Debbie Jo told Kelly all about Anne Lister! HOLY. MOLY. Her story kept Kelly on the edge of her seat the entire time, it was amazing. Anne Lister was a lesbian... in the 1800s, y'all! And thanks to the immaculate recording of her life's story in 26 volumes of her personal diaries, a writer in the 1980s was able to establish that - spoiler alert - being a lesbian (or any other member of the LGBTQ+ community) has always been a thing and is totally natural and beautiful, and that love is love. Period. 

Happy Pride Month, y'all! Thanks for hanging with us!





Jun 16, 2019
From the Netflix Studio at PodX: Three Non Moms

Surprise! It's an interview episode! It's been a while since the Non Moms have had anyone on to interview, but they met Kate Van Sprange at PodX and just knew they had to have her on. The ladies recorded this episode in the Netflix Recording Studio at PodX in Nashville, Tennessee on June 1. 

We talked social worker/nonprofit burnout, self-care, and reinventing oneself as many times as necessary to find peace and happiness in oneself while pursuing a career and lifestyle that is fulfilling and honors oneself. We even talked about Spoonie life a bit, as Kate's husband Mel is a badass Cystic Fibrosis warrior! (Check out the badass organization Rock CF!)

For all of our listeners and pals who are vocalists, lecturers, people who have to talk too much for any reason and are always dealing with throat irritation and loss of voice, you definitely need to check Kate's product, Vocal Eze, out! We are especially big fans of the lozenges. 

You can find them on Amazon and at Sam Ash, Guitar Center, and more!

Interact with Kate (and her delightful husband Mel) on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook:


Jun 10, 2019
Wandering Wombs & Circus Tattoos

This is our last episode of May, our last episode before PodX, and the last episode of Mental Health Awareness Month! Where is the time going?!

This week Kelly kicks things off by exploring the history of women's mental health treatment. Spoiler alert: It's been rough. The Ancient Greeks had some seriously crazy ideas about what a woman's uterus was doing in her body and how it was impacting her mood and behavior. Then there was Victorian England where it was decided that all we needed was orgasms to keep us happy, and that, of course, male doctors must be the ones to deliver them. *Eye Roll* 

Debbie Jo goes on to tell us about the first American traditional tattoo artist, Maude Wagner. Maude was only ever tattooed by her husband, who taught her the art of tattooing, and they passed the tradition on to their only daughter. The Wagners traveled for years with the circus as a freakshow act, both for being heavily tattooed and for performing the art of tattooing in front of audiences. 

Special thanks to artist Meredith Elmore (Instagram @meredithelmorepaints) for allowing us to share one of her pieces of art in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month. Find her (and this print!) on Etsy at https://www.etsy.com/shop/meredithelmore. Enter promo code "Nonmomhappyhour" for free shipping!

Take care of yourselves and each other, folks. You matter to us! 







May 27, 2019
The New Deal & 1,100 Backpacks, with Special Guest: Herpes

The Non Moms were in rare form this week, Y'All! Skippers, if you've made it this far, you can get your skip-button fingers ready, and tune in at around the 20-minute mark. 

Kelly kicks things off by telling Debbie Jo about Frances Perkins who we will heretofore consider the Godmother of the Labor Movement. Without Frances, the New Deal might not ever have happened, or at least not as we know it. You can thank her for 40-hour work-weeks and the abolition of child labor. You can thank yourselves for the destruction of many of the benefits once afforded by the labor unions, like 40-hour work-weeks and overtime pay. Well done, America!

Continuing the coverage of Mental Health Awareness Month, Debbie Jo follows up Frances with the story of Alison Malmon, Founder and Executive Director of the nonprofit organization Active Minds. Alison was inspired by the death of her brother, who committed suicide, to change the mental health narrative on college campuses across the United States. Suicide is the leading cause of death for college students and 1,100 college students each year commit suicide. Active Minds helps empower students to help one another and prevent such deaths. 

Finally, this all leads to a conversation about herpes and the stigma attached to the herpes virus. Debbie Jo shares her personal life experience, surprising even herself.

Please, if you are considering suicide, reach out for help, you can call the Suicide Prevent Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or visit https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/





May 20, 2019
South Fulton, Georgia & Mother Monster

NOTE: May is Mental Health Awareness Month:

According to Women’s Health.Gov:

Good mental health is essential to overall well-being. More than 1 in 5 women in the United States experienced a mental health condition in the past year, such as depression or anxiety.1 Many mental health conditions, such as depression and bipolar disorder, affect more women than men or affect women in different ways from men.2,3 Most serious mental health conditions cannot be cured. But they can be treated, so you can get better and live well.4

On to the show!

Debbie Jo throws everyone a curveball this week and covers not one woman, not two women... but an entire town outside of Atlanta, Georgia which is being predominantly governed by badass African American women. The town is South Fulton, Georgia, which hasn't even officially been a town for but a couple of years. The women aren't hired just because they're women; these are well educated, credentialed, and experienced women who all happen to have been voted into or hired into offices of the local government. They are doing some breakthrough things in the court system of South Fulton, too, so you'll definitely want to hear about this place and keep your eye on it for future outcomes.

Kelly follows the town of South Fulton with everything you might think you already know about none other than Lady Gaga AKA Mother Monster. Kelly didn't fall in love with Lady Gaga in the same timeframe or for the same reason that most people have -- her music. Kelly discovered Lady Gaga as a person, as well as her persona when Kelly watched her Netflix Original documentary, Gaga: Five Foot Two. Kelly talks about all that Lady Gaga has survived and overcome (especially in regard to mental and physical health and wellness) to get where she is today in her career and her life. Spoiler alert: There is no magic button or pill to make your dreams come true, Y'All. Ya gotta work for it. She certainly does.

Boop merch is officially available at our Teespring store: 






May 13, 2019
The Schindler Jews and A Short Trip in a Barrel


Yep, now we're just doing it to make Debbie Jo crazy.

Kelly kicks things off this week by telling Debbie Jo about Emilie Schindler, wife of the more commonly known, Oscar Schindler of Schindler's List fame. Emilie wasn't simply a supportive spouse who stood by and watched her husband save the lives of some 1,300 Jews during WWII and the Holocaust. She was an active participant and advocate herself; her role as an activist, ally, and nurse has often been overshadowed by the legacy of her husband who, as it turns out, bailed on Emilie - straight abandoned her, their marriage, and their life in Argentina - after the war. 

Feiwell (later went by Francisco) No. 371 on Schindler’s list was quoted at age 75 as saying, “As long as I live, I will always have a sincere and eternal gratitude for dear Emilie. I think she triumphed over danger because of her courage, intelligence, and determination to do the right and humane thing. She had immense energy and she was like a mother.” (Quote taken from http://www.auschwitz.dk/Emilie/Emilie.htm.)

After some discussion about cognitive dissonance and how we as humans allow atrocities such as the Holocaust to happen Debbie Jo lightens the mood with the story of Annie Edson Taylor. "Who the heck is Annie Edson Taylor?" you may be asking yourself. She's the first (person and) woman to ever successfully ride over the Falls of Niagra in a barrel.

A pickle barrel, to be exact.
A custom pickle barrel.
With an anvil in it.

Seriously... Just listen.

p.s. Kelly is working to have new "Boop" and "Boop That Sh*t!" merch in the store by Tuesday. So, keep an eye out for that at: https://teespring.com/stores/a-non-mom-happy-hour.


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May 06, 2019
The Snake Boss & Zelda, Not Edmund, Fitzgerald

This week actually kicks off with Athena, the diva pit-mix, howling at the Boop. The Non Moms are so, super excited because for the first time ever we are using SquadCast.fm to record and we can see each other's faces in real time while we record and Debbie Jo can make faces at Kelly to make her laugh in inappropriate places.

Debbie Jo officially kicks things off this week by telling Kelly about Julia Baker, The Snake Boss (or Snake Sheila, as she's referred to in Australia.) Julia accidentally fell in love with snakes when she moved to Australia as a young adult and has since become a one-woman, snack-catching, snake-and-nature-conservation crew and founded her own business doing it. She took it a step further and manifested her dream of someday being an actress and actually created her own damn reality show series that ended up on Animal Planet. That wasn't enough though, because then she manifested exactly the type of man she wanted to meet and fall in love with, and in walks Johnny Bagpipes. It's a super cute love story.

Next, Kelly tells Debbie Jo all about the amazingly talented author, dancer, and socialite, Zelda Fitzgerald. She happens to have been married to F. Scott Fitzgerald, author of American literary classics such as The Great Gatsby who consistently stole his wife's prose and short-stories, even chunks of a novel, and published them as his own! What a dick! He even admitted in his own writing that he purposely did what he could to drive her mad. Be ready to get heated, Y'All. The Non Moms essentially come to the conclusion that F. Scott Fitzgerald never would have been so famous and successful an author without his uber-talented wife carrying his ass.

Quick note - It's #IndieApril! This is a month to celebrate independent authors, like our very own Mechanerdzilla. If you'd like to learn more about Kelly's book, you can visit her website at nerdzillakelly.com/book.

Thanks for being with us this week and every week! We hope you enjoyed a better-sounding, clearer, more real-life, and authentic-sounding podcast episode. We had a lot of fun recording in the new format and are excited to have future guests in the new virtual studio. Be a real ass human Y'All!





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Apr 29, 2019
Boop that Sh*t!

Sorry, we're late! Spoonie life, man! Shoutout to our producer for literally helping Kelly walk all weekend.

Business Items: 
Happy birthday, again, Josh! 
Kelly's niece Aubrey is the coolest.
We'll be at PodX performing LIVE on June 2, at 12:40. Go to www.podx.com/happy to buy tickets and save 10%.
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Now for the fun stuff!

Kelly kicks things off by telling Debbie Jo about her grandfather, his experience with Polio, Dr. Anita Silvers, her experience with Polio, and Dr. Silvers's work as a Philosopher of Aesthetics and an Advocate concerning the American's with Disabilities Act. Dr. Silvers contracted Polio at Girl Scout Camp in 1949 and subsequently spent an entire year in an Iron Lung. The disease left her a partial paraplegic but that didn't stop her from being a total badass and getting her college degree, a P.h.D. in Philosophy, and eventually teaching at San Francisco University for 50 years. It was during her time as a professor, when two blind students came to her for help, that she shifted her focus to studying the Americans with Disabilities Act from a philosophical standpoint, advocating for the recognition of the Act as being a matter of Civil Rights and the equitable treatment of individuals with medical disabilities, especially in the workplace.

Then, Debbie Jo channels her inner Bessie Stringfield and goes on a bit of a rant at Kelly about not apologizing for taking up too much time or space in the world... or the podcast. Bessie Stringfield is best known as the first African American woman to ride a motorcycle across the United States, solo! When she was 19! And it was only 1930! It's almost impossible to truly wrap one's mind around that level of badassery. Bessie originally road an Indian motorcycle, but at the end of her life, she owned a collection of 27 Harley Davidson motorcycles. Bessie was also a Civilian Courier for the US Army during WWII and founded the Iron Horse Motorcycle Club and was eventually known as the Motorcycle Queen of Miami.








Apr 22, 2019
Go Ask Alice...then Run Like Hell

We're back! And so are our voices! (Mostly.)

We have news! So, first things first:

You guys. We have our first corporate partnership!! THAT'S RIGHT! We are now partnering with Thrive Market to bring YOU 25% off your first order and a FREE 30-Day membership trial (which means you get premium pricing.) Get. On. This. Deal. Kelly saves hundreds of dollars a month specialty groceries because you know this heifer has all the special needs between her food allergies and the anti-inflammatory diet. Kelly also sent Debbie Jo (resident woo-woo skeptic) some CBD supplements from Thrive and lo-and-behold, they help! Go to www.thrivemarket.com/anonmomhappyhour to automatically enjoy the savings!


This week, Debbie Jo tells Kelly all about Alice Roosevelt Longworth, daughter of former President, Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt. Kelly's personal favorite quote from Alice is one that was stitched on a pillow that sat on her settee (sofa): "If you can't say something good about someone, sit right here by me." That's our kind of woman! Seriously, Alice was a rabble-rouser and once again Debbie Jo is convinced that she's accidentally stumbled upon one of Kelly's past lives. It's crazy that we never hear about Alice but here about her father and uncle all the time because, as far as we are concerned, she was the most fun out of the whole lot.

Kelly then tells Debbie Jo about Kathrine Switzer. Kathrine didn't set out to be an activist but it happened anyway, in a flash, when she became the first woman to officially register, run, and finish the Boston Maraton. This happened in 1967 and as you'll hear, race official Jock Semple was not happy about her participation. So much so that he attacked her, physically, and attempted to tear her running number bib from her shirt. Well, Kathrine's boyfriend, "Big Joe" tackled the guy and Kathrine's trainer Arnie yelled after her, "Run like Hell!" She did, and she finished the race. Then she went on to fight for having women's marathon running included in the Olympic Games, along with a number of other accomplishments.

As always, thanks for hanging out with us. And if you haven't yet, download the free Podcoin app and start earning cash for listening to us! Enter invite code HappyHour for 300 bonus Podcoins. Use your coins to buy gift cards or donate the funds to charity. 

If you've got nothing better to do on Sunday, June 2nd, come hang out in Nashville at the PodX Convention and watch our live show, starting at 12:40 pm! Visit www.podx.com/happy to save 10% on your tickets.

Featured Promos:

Get Grimm
NRI Woman

Research Sources:


Apr 15, 2019
Three Inventors and a Forensic Pathologist Walk into a Podcast...

Jesus wept, Y'All! (Shoutout to Sonya of Honesty Check.) The Non Moms are so glad to have finally recorded a new full-length episode, even if Kelly still feels like her voice sounded terrible. 

This week Kelly pulled a fast one and talked about not one, but three badass women inventors. She was inspired by Debbie Jo's coverage of Elizabeth Magie, the true inventor fo Monopoly, a few weeks back. Once she googled "women inventors we don't know about," the rabbit hole went to deep to pick just one. So, in this episode, you'll hear Kelly tell Debbie Jo about the inventions of Hedy Lamarr, Ada Lovelace, and Marie Van Brittan Brown.

Debbie Jo follows it up by telling Kelly about Dr. Chitra Rao, Canada's first ever female full-time forensic pathologist, known as a pioneer in her field. According to the article, The mom of the morgue: Canada’s first full-time female forensic pathologist is retiring, Dr. Rao has worked on more than 380 homicide cases. As they put it, "Stabbings, shootings, beatings, poisonings, mutilations — she has seen the worst of human nature." Thanks to Dr. Rao, a high number of cases that were blundered by other (male) scientists in her field, were solved correctly, freeing innocent people and imprisoning guilty persons whose cases had been mishandled in the past. But that's not even her whole story — wait until you hear all that she had to overcome and do to get to such a place in her career!

Other business:

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If you haven't bought your ticket to the PodX convention in Nashville yet, you should do that now, too! The Non Moms perform live on June 2 at 12:40pm. There's an amazing lineup, and if you use the link podx.com/happy or go to podx.com and enter the promo code "happy" checkout, you'll save 10%




Apr 07, 2019

This week the producer of A Non Mom Happy Hour played a joke on all of us. 


Happy April Fools Day! We'll be back next week when Kelly has her voice again, we promise. In the meantime, check out our Patreon page, or buy tickets to see us perform live at PodX, or shop our merch store!

We love you guys.


Apr 01, 2019
The Big Announcement!

Debbie Jo is flying solo this week to bring you all some very special news! Kelly hasn't had a voice since Wednesday or Thursday night, we forget exactly. Allergic asthma is a jerk. 

We digress.

A Non Mom Happy Hour is performing LIVE at PodX in Nashville! The convention runs from May 31 - June 2. They haven’t announced the daily lineups for live shows yet, so we don’t know exactly when we’ll be performing yet. We'll let everyone know as soon as we can.

Other pods and presenters include:

True Crime Obsessed
Crime Junkie
Steven Ray Morris from My Favorite Murder, the Purrcast, etc.

And so many more! Come hang with us! It’s also the same weekend that Kelly's book launches in print and eBook formats, so there will be much celebrating! Plus, you can save 10% on the cost of admission if you go to podx.com/happy or podx.com to order your tickets and enter promo code "happy" at checkout. 



Apr 01, 2019
A Male Monopoly on History and The Shero of Flint, MI

Alright, Y'all! Get ready! This week we are throwing down on men re-writing history to exclude women. Not cool, bros. Did you know that the game of Monopoly was originally The Landlord's Game, invented by a badass lady named Elizabeth ("Lizzie") Magie? Neither did Kelly, but Debbie Jo tells her all about it this week! It's pretty damn scandalous, honestly. We will never look at playing Monopoly the same, TBH. 

After learning about Lizzie, Kelly tells Debbie Jo about one of her heroes, Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, who we'll call Dr. Mona for short. Why is she Kelly's hero? Well, long-time listeners already know that Kelly grew up in Flint, Michigan. Dr. Mona happens to be the pediatrician that exposed the Flint Water Crisis, urging citizens not to drink the water that was poisoning them and their children. She advocated for the residents of Flint even in the face of harsh criticism and accusations of fear-mongering by the State. She showed them! And she's still doing the work. 

Just a reminder that the Non Moms are working diligently to publish weekly video content on Patreon and you can become a subscriber with fan benefits for as little as $3 a month! We'll be doing giveaways and adding monthly live events, and things as subscriber milestones are reached, so make sure to check it all out at https://www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour. Funds raised through our Patreon will help us cover the cost of production, hosting, recording, travel, conferences, and so on so that we can keep this show going and get it on the road! How fun would that be?

As always, thanks for hanging with us this week and every week. 


Sources for Research:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbaK1EPpZxg (Democracy Now)
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/06/25/623126968/pediatrician-who-exposed-flint-water-crisis-shares-her-story-of-resistance (NPR)

Mar 25, 2019
Queen Non Mom and Overcoming Addiction

CONTENT WARNING: Debbie Jo's featured lady this week publicly discusses her attempted suicide. Please listen with caution if you may be triggered by details of attempted suicide.

The Non Moms are personally very excited about this episode. Why? For starters, there are two big, important announcements at the top of the show. We're not giving you any spoilers, if you want to know what the haps are, you gotta let us in your ear holes!

Secondly, the ladies accidentally picked a theme -- overcoming addiction and being a badass at life. Kelly and Debbie Jo never know who each of them will talk about until they sit down to record in the virtual studio, so this week was a special coincidence and surprise. They both picked ladies who are publicly open about their struggles with their addiction, mental health, and overall wellness journeys, and each of the ladies discussed has built a large audience for whom they provide inspiration, commiseration, and laughter.

Kelly kicks things off by telling Debbie Jo everything she already knew and maybe didn't about Queen of all Non Moms, Karen Kilgariff. Most people know Karen as half of the Podcast, My Favorite Murder (and it is no secret that the Non Moms are huge fans) but she is so much more than just that. She's done a lot of cool shit! Including being in active recovery from alcohol, amphetamines, and diet pills. You also get to hear about the impact that Karen has had on Kelly, personally, as she has battled her physical and mental health ailments and recovery for the past (nearly) two years.

Debbie Jo then tells Kelly all about Tiffany Jenkins, who you will most likely recognize as the woman behind the magic of Juggling the Jenkins and her super funny and relevant Fab, Fit, Fun unboxing videos. Tiffany has been very open about her struggles with drug and alcohol addiction, and her journey into sobriety, motherhood, and being a wife... all at the same time. (Seriously, certifiable badassery.) Tiffany has created an incredible virtual community of moms being real and honest about mom shit, and she pulls no punches. The Non Moms have mad love for her.

Both of our chosen ladies use comedy as a way to bring healing and community to women around the world... remind you of anyone else you know? (We hope so, or we're doing this very wrong.)


Sources for research:



Mar 18, 2019
Cold Justice & The Matter of the Universe

The best part of this week's episode is at the very end when Kelly renders Debbie Jo speechless. Sometimes ya gotta keep your partner on their toes, right? It's worth listening to, I promise. 

This week Debbie Jo kicks things off with answering everyone's burning question: What the hell did her food test reveal?!

Then it's time to get down to business, where Debbie Jo tells Kelly about one of their favorite badass women, Kelly Siegler, the former prosecuting attorney turned TV star in the true crime series Cold Justice streaming on Netflix. What both the Non Moms really appreciate about Kelly Siegler is just how passionate she is about solving the cases she takes on, the raw emotion and authenticity draws you in as she interacts with the families of victims and law enforcement officers, trying to solve cases that have been cold for decades. 

Kelly tells Debbie Jo about Cecilia Payne -- the woman who freaking discovered what the Universe and the Sun are made of! Though, she often doesn't get credit for it, because... MEN. (Thanks to Kelly's mom for bringing Cecelia's story to her attention!) Seriously, Cecilia was attending universities, making these huge scientific discoveries, and then not even receiving degrees for it because back then women didn't get degrees! Then, she went on to teach at Harvard for years without any recognition as a professor because women weren't allowed to be professors. It really makes you realize both how far we've come and how far we still have yet to go in the fight for women's equality. 

Please note: Kelly is a political scientist and not a physicist or astrophysicist so some of the things Cecelia Payne did were hard for the Non Moms to wrap their minds around. That doesn't make it any less badass.

Finally, the episode wraps up with the Non Moms talking a little bit about what got them both into true crime in the first place. As always, thanks for listening!


Research links for this episode:


Mar 10, 2019
The Brain Broad & Coping Mechanisms

This week the Non Moms had the pleasure of hosting Dr. Lynette Louise, AKA The Brain Broad, in the virtual studio. It was a fascinating conversation with a woman who leads an incredibly fascinating life and does some really cool work in the world of brain function and neurofeedback! 

Lynette is a renowned brain change and behavior expert, as well as creator and host of the international docu-series, Fix it in Five with the Brain Broad. She’s frequently invited to speak on the topics of brain function, neurofeedback, behavior and play, beliefs and cognition, and parenting and special needs to groups and in homes around the world. An award-winning author, filmmaker, speaker, opinion writer, host, recognized humanitarian, and consultant, Lynette is universally applauded for her skilled use of science and stories when speaking to and teaching groups. Lynette teaches with honesty; shining a light into the various realities of her own life, often revealing with kindness and humor how every seemingly ugly moment, with a little knowledge and elbow grease, can be made beautiful.

Her recently released book, Sever The Cycle of Abuse with The Sub Shop Savior, offers audiences yet another peek at her personal traumas while guiding them to answers, both personal and universal.

The ladies discussed everything from the pros and cons of A.A., to foster care and parenting children with special needs, personal care choices and how to advocate for yourself as a patient in regards to prescription medications, to Kelly's grief regarding the loss of her beloved dog, Rosebud. The Non Moms were incredibly stimulated by the conversation and we hope that our listeners will enjoy it as much as we did!

Links where you may follow and connect with The Brain Broad:

Mar 04, 2019
Minisode No. 1: A Tribute to Rosebud

Kelly reads an excerpt from her book and pays tribute to her beloved dog, Rosebud, the deaf white boxer, who was laid to rest on February 20, 2019.

Thank you all for celebrating and honoring her with us. <3 

Feb 25, 2019
Elephants, Bees, and Busses

Before diving too far into the episode, the Non Moms took a moment to recognize all of their amazing Pod-Friends who came together in support of Kelly's dog, Rosebud, and her surgery on Wednesday, February 13.

This episode was recorded the night before, and the ladies gave shout-outs to friends at:

NRI Woman
Best Forevers
Just So You Know
Bad at Love
Our True Crime Podcast and
Deconstructing Damsels

Sadly, Rosebud ultimately didn't make it and was laid to rest on Wednesday, February 20th.  There will be a special minisode published shortly after this episode to pay tribute to and honor Rosebud's memory.

On this week's episode, Debbie Jo kicks things off by telling Kelly about rats. No, seriously. She did. But that led to talking about her actual badass lady of the week, Dr. Lucy King. Dr. King is the found of Elephants and Bees Project, part of Save the Elephants. This badass lady figured out a way to save the lives of endangered elephants while also preserving the crops and livelihoods of desperate farmers, all with the help of... you guessed it, honey bees. It's a super cool story, and project and Kelly is obsessed with buying some Elephant Friendly Honey

Kelly follows that up with the story of Claudette Colvin who actually refused to give up her seat on a Montgomery, Alabama bus nine months before Rosa Park's more commonly recognized experience. She was a pioneer in abolishing the unconstitutional bus segregation laws of Montgomery, but she is often overlooked in history. And guess what, Y'all? She was only fifteen at the time. The Non Moms discuss the implications of younger generations playing integral roles in socio-political activism and social justice movements while often being overlooked and ignored. 

Finally, you'll hear Kelly lose her brain a little bit during this episode as the proof copy of her book arrived at her house literally seconds before the Non Moms hit record to start taping this episode.


Promos Featured:

Get Grimm Podcast

My Worst Date 

Sources for research of this week's episode:



Feb 24, 2019
Chronic Migraine, Bouncy Boxers, and a Messy Wedding Dress

This week the Non Moms get to hang with Stefanie Davis in the virtual studio! Stefanie is a Spoonie living with Chronic Migraine who has built a freelance and film career that honors her body's unique needs and limitations while pursuing her creative passions.

After leaving the corporate banking world, Stefanie began as an actress and in 2015, she stepped behind the camera as a director, producer, and script supervisor. Films such as "Migraine Hell," "Speed Dating," and "BS Meeting" made their debuts with glowing reviews. Her award-winning production company, Bouncy Boxer Media, has created films that have screened in festivals around the globe. Through relatable characters and natural dialogue, Stefanie strives to tell stories that will resonate with audiences. Her first feature film, "Hot Mess In A Wedding Dress," is a character-driven story that will connect with both men and women. Stefanie's goal is to continue to tell the stories of underrepresented people of all shapes, sizes, and colors. Every story is important.

The ladies talk with Stefanie about good doctors, bad doctors, botox injections, The Migraine Diet, the pain bias against women, and what life can be like day-to-day when living with a somewhat unpredictable chronic pain condition while building successful creative and professional pursuits.

Places you can find Stefanie:

Website: http://bouncyboxermedia.com 
Official Trailer (2019) Romantic Comedy HD https://youtu.be/L7eJNeh9ot4
Twitter: https://twitter.com/HotMessMovie
Feb 10, 2019
Honoring Maya Angelou & Carol Daronch (F*ck Ted Bundy)


You'll notice something different about this episode... A NEW THEME SONG! That's right, bitches, we got a super legit custom theme song from the very talented Keybeaux and we could not be more pumped about it. We hope all of our long-time listeners love it too. If you want to work with Keybeaux you can find him on Fiverr as Burtonm6. He was a dream to work with. Many thanks again to our pals at Honesty Check   for helping us make that connection happen.

Now, on to the show!

This week Kelly kicks things off by telling Debbie Jo all about Maya Angelou. Kelly had been an admirer of Angelou's for years but even she didn't know about half of this woman's badassery. Kelly's decision to talk about Angelou was borne out of the desire to honor Black History Month and get to know more about important women of color in history. If you haven't ever heard Angelou's voice, Kelly encourages you to Google & YouTube as much as you possibly can. The woman had an unmatched way with words, but even her voice is musical and poetic.  

Debbie Jo then fills Kelly in on Carol Daronch, one of only a handful of survivor's of serial killer Ted Bundy, and for a long time, the only known survivor. Carol fought her ass off and not only got away from this monster but took with her the evidence that would eventually bring his ass down. She even stood up against him in court, as he represented himself as his own defense and questioned her on the witness stand. F*ck Ted Bundy, who we should be talking about is the amazing women that survived him. So, Debbie Jo did just that!

Sources used for research on this episode:


Biography.com Editors



https://www.mayaangelou.com/biography/ (video excerpt)




The Only Living Witness


Feb 03, 2019
Fly Swatters & White Privilege

Lawd have mercy, Y'all. Did the Non Moms get into some real sh*t this week...

This week Debbie Jo & Kelly had the distinct honor of welcoming Dr. Froswa' Booker-Drew to the show. 

Dr. Booker-Drew is the author of Rules of Engagement: Making Connections Last. This workbook (which you can buy on Amazon by clicking here) helps women understand their stories so that they can build stronger relationships. Froswa' has Ph.D. from Antioch University in Leadership and Change with a focus on relational leadership, social capital, diverse women, and their barriers to change.  

Do you know what they say about well-behaved women not changing the world? Well, it's a good thing for the world that the three of us are not and never will be well-behaved. The ladies talked about nonprofit work, (white) privilege, how to be better allies and advocates -- especially in the nonprofit sector -- and bringing others to the table alongside us.

They talked about the importance of mentors in the lives of young people and even adults, especially young adults in college and graduate school. Each of the ladies shared personal experiences in professional settings and in settings as mentors and mentees. It might sound like it was all business this week but trust us, there were plenty of laughs. 

To learn more about Froswa' and her company, Soulstice Consultancy, you can visit her website at http://froswasrules.com/main_page.html

Honestly, this episode is officially in Debbie Jo & Kelly's top 5 favorite episodes recorded so far.

Oh! Guess what?! A Non Mom Happy Hour has it's very own theme song now! WHAT??! That's right. But you can't hear it on this episode, so if you want to hear it before next week, you'll have to hit up our Patreon support page for exclusive first access. (https://www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour)

Alternative links for purchasing Froswa's book:


Featured Promos:

Mouse and Weens
The Working Stiffs Podcast

Jan 28, 2019
Unbreakable Isabella Bird & The Angels of the Western Front

This week, Debbie kicks things off telling Kelly about Isabella Bird - 19th Century explorer, photographer, writer, and naturalist... and possibly Kelly in a former life 😉. This lady was a true-blue badass and wasn’t shy about speaking up for what she thought was right and good. She was also a fucking survivor and accomplished a helluva lot in spite of persistent spinal and other health issues.


Kelly then shares the story of Mairi Chisholm & Elsie Knocker, also known as “The Madonnas/Angels of Pyrvese.” These were the ONLY two ladies allowed on the Western Front in WWI, and for good reason: they were badasses. They saved the lives of thousands of men wounded on the front — the number one took they utilized? Their motorcycles.


The ladies are super excited to be back in the normal flow of things in the New Year and appreciate all of the love and support you guys have been throwing at Kelly while she recovers from becoming a cyborg. She’s decided to call her implant Robert. Like Robert (Im)Plant. Get it? Yeah, there’s a reason why her nickname is Nerdzilla. 



Sites used for research this week:


https://www.visitflanders.com/en/her-side-of-the-war/mairi-and-alsie/ (Her Side of the War)



BBC Video Archives


Promos featured:

American Slacker and Boobies & Noobies

Jan 21, 2019
Confidence & Being a Real Ass Human

It's our first episode of the New Year, and the ladies were so excited to be back in the studio! Especially Kelly, who is officially a cyborg, and entering week three of her post-op recovery. 

Our first guest of 2019 is Trish Blackwell and she is a freaking powerhouse, Y'all! She's a Confidence Coach, author, Podcast host, and the list goes one. She does it all while momming, too. You want to know how to be a mom and still grow as an individual person with your own interests and pursuits? You should check out her podcasts, The Confidence Podcast, and The Confident Mom Podcast


Sexual assault/trauma, Eating Disorders

The ladies talk with Trish about how we can turn our worst moments into our greatest sources of triumph and confidence. They talk about trauma, PTSD, living with chronic pain and illness, living authentically, and being a real ass human. The ladies also talk a bit about body image and Trish opens up about her history with disordered eating serious body confidence issues for years while coaching others as a fitness coach. She got really good at projecting an image of success and checking all of the boxes for a good life... and yet she was kind of miserable.

You can learn more about Trish and the work she does by visiting http://www.trishblackwell.com/. You can also find her on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/trishblackwellfitness.


Jan 14, 2019
Enneagrams & Mechanerdzilla

It feels like it's been forever since we got to hang out with you all, and it kind of has been! The holidays make it tough, especially for a Spoonie, so we gave ourselves a Christmas break.

We're kicking it old school for this, our New Year's Eve episode! The show starts with an update from Kelly about all things spine cord stimulator trial; the process a patient goes through with the trial implant and preparing for the permanent implant surgery. It's long-winded but necessary.

Then, Debbie Jo tells us all about the Enneagram Test. Like so many other things, Kelly had not heard of the Enneagram Test until Debbie Jo came into her life, and the first time she took it was at approximately 11 pm while half asleep on muscle relaxers.

If you haven't taken the Enneagram Test, you totally should, because it will help you understand yourself more in all aspects of life -- personal, romantic, and professional. It's pretty rad.

As it turns out, Debbie is a 3 (The Achiever) and Kelly is a 4 (The Individualist.) Lucky for all of us, these two types complement each other in partnerships! We also challenge each other, so it's a good balance.

You can learn more about different personality types at https://www.enneagraminstitute.com

You can take a free test at https://www.yourenneagramcoach.com/ (if you're Debbie Jo) or https://enneagramtest.net/  (if you're Kelly.)

Finally, it's the end of a big year for us at A Non Mom Happy Hour, not just because of the podcast but in our network marketing businesses and with the launch of Kelly's personal website and book presales, Debbie Jo's new life coaching business... it's been a year, Y'all!

On New Years Eve 2017 if you had told us that we would be this excited about the year behind us and the year to come, we would have told you that you were high. Yet, here we are. Thank you for being a part of it all with us!

Dec 31, 2018
The Real Life Tank Girl & Un-Making Murderers

This week was really a lot of fun for the Non Moms. Neither knew what woman the other had chosen to talk about, so surprises abound!

Debbie Jo kicks things off by telling Kelly all about Mariya Oktyabrskaya, the real-life tank girl who swore to avenge her husband's death and squash Nazi fascists with her very own T-34 tank during WWII. Mariya is about as badass as you can get, ladies and gentlemen. After her husband was killed in 1941 it took two years for word to make it to her. When she received the news, she sprung into action to seek revenge. She worked day and night for months to raise the 55,000 Russian Rubles needed to finance the tank build and once the funds were raised she wrote the Kremlin to tell them of her plan. If you want the rest of the story, you'll have to listen!

Next, Kelly tells Debbie all about Kathleen Zellner, attorney at law. If you think you've heard this name before, it's likely because you've watched the docu-series Making a Murderer (Part 2) on Netflix. Mrs. Zellner is the attorney for none other than Steven Avery. But this is just one of the famous cases that Zellner has served on.

To put it simply: Kathleen Zellner is a justice-serving badass who rights wrongs in cases involving wrongful death and medical malpractice, wrongful convictions, and exonerations. Zellner's firm has helped free seven men from death row and Zellner has righted more wrongful prosecutions than any other private attorney in America. What drives Zellner to fight so hard for what is right? You'll have to listen to find out! 


As always, thank you for listening, this week and every week. If you haven't done so already, it would mean the world to us if you would rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast on your favorite listening app.


Sites utilized for research in this episode include:

For Mariya Oktyabrskaya:


For Kathleen Zellner:

The Telegraph (Chicago Newspaper) Archives (Google)


Dec 17, 2018
Worst Dates, Drunk Debbie, & Shame Receipts

This week is one hell of a special treat! Debbie Jo & Kelly had the pleasure of recording with Keegan, Cassi, and Christina from My Worst Date. Y'all, they laughed so hard at some points that they broke Zencastr. The virtual studio crashed more than once. Whoops! It was totally worth it though because it is some of the most fun they've ever had.


Debbie Jo shared her two biggest shame receipts and tells the story of how her worst shame receipt resulted in her happily ever after. She also talks about single Debbie's propensity for making bad choices on Tinder.

Kelly tells the story of her worst date ever brought to her by the OKCupid dating app. She also shares the stories of her two worst breakups as well as her irrational fear of the loss of gravity. Best part? She's not alone!

Friendships were forged on this episode. Serious bonding happened. Also, Debbie Jo and Kelly acknowledged their 1 Year Friend-i-versary! That's right, one full year of finishing each other's thoughts, being each other's human panic room(s), and partnering on a podcast even though they've never even been in the same room.

The ladies of My Worst Date and A Non Mom Happy Hour also recorded a special minisode where they play a special game of F*ck, Marry, Kill and Debbie Jo and Kelly dish on their relationship "deal-breakers." If you want to listen you'll have to hit up the My Worst Date Patreon! (www.patreon.com/myworstdate

Dec 09, 2018
Birth Control & America's First Lady Detective

This week the ladies launch a new format. Each week that guests are not being interviewed, or there isn't some special topic to be covered, each of the hosts will choose one lady to tell each other and the audience about.

These may be important women in history, women that the hosts find fascinating or admire, women living or dead. 

On this episode, Kelly tells about Margaret Sanger, who fought admirably to normalize birth control and make contraceptives accessible for women in the early 1900s. She was also responsible in part for the oral contraceptive, or birth control pill as well as founding the American Birth Control League, the precursor for what would become Planned Parenthood Federation. Kelly also opens up about her own personal history and the secret she's been carrying for about 8 years.

Debbie Jo tells the story of Kate Warne, America's first female detective who worked closely with Allan Pinkerton, America's first private eye. Interestingly, it was Kate Warne who successfully protected President Abraham Lincoln from the first assassination attempt against his life. Kate Warne is a historical figure shrouded in mystery, as there are no records of her life prior to her time working with Pinkerton.


Websites cited for research:
ABC News, Maggie Fox, Abortion in the US: 5 Key Facts


Dec 03, 2018
Grief, Self-Care & The Holidays

This week things get personal when the ladies each share personal stories of grief and loss and discuss how grief, just like recovery in other areas, is not linear. The holidays can be a hard time for folks, especially as concerns the loss of loved ones whether recently or in the distant past.

The Non Moms would like to remind everyone to do whatever they need to do to survive and care for themselves this holiday season, including refusing to participate in so-called social obligations and family parties. Don't 'should' yourselves to death!

Additionally, Debbie Jo shares an exciting update regarding her professional ventures and Kelly shares an exciting update about her medical care plan and upcoming surgeries. 

To everyone celebrating, we would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving!

Oh, and check out our Patreon site, at https://www.patreon.com/anonmomhappyhour where you can now find our first minisode, where Kelly recounts the story of the time she fought two guys at once, as promised in Episode 18.

Nov 19, 2018
Election Hangovers & C U Next Tuesdays

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly sit down with Adina from Honesty Check Podcast to talk about all things Midterm Election results. Two of the ladies felt a little bit like they were nursing an emotional hangover, if we're being honest, though Debbie Jo seems to have come out fairly well, being in Michigan. Did you know that Kelly has a strong aversion to Marsha Blackburn? A very strong aversion. 

In response to a fan topic request from Ashley in Tennessee, Adina talks about self-care as a mom and wife. Adina believes that sometimes you've got to put yourself first if you want to effectively take care of and be there for your family. (Maybe you want to consider a girls trip now and then, ladies.) 

Please remember that those podcast listeners who rate, review, and subscribe on their respective podcast listening apps help A Non Mom Happy Hour rise in the rankings and become more valuable to advertisers and therefore, help make the continued creation and production of the show more sustainable.

For those who like to be rewarded for their listenership, for as little as $3 a month, you can gain access to all Patreon-exclusive content and posts, including special episodes, written stories, videos, and photos. Just hit our Patreon page for more information! This week, Kelly will pen the story the big fight referenced in today's episode. 

Nov 12, 2018
The Kids are Alright...Mostly

This week Kelly delivers a health update after a day-long trip to the Emergency Room when her leg kept swelling up like a balloon throughout the last week. Spoiler alert, she's ok. And it turns out that compression stockings don't have to be ugly. A new diagnosis may also be on the horizon for our dear Nerdzilla.

Debbie Jo and Kelly also share stories of the things that they did when they were children and teenagers that are likely the real reasons behind why neither of them has children. The good news is that they turned out ok in the end and your kids probably will too. Mostly.

The ladies would like to remind all of their listeners to rate, review, and subscribe on whatever listening app they utilize. Also, check out www.anonmomhappyhour.com to get to know the gals better, figure out which voice goes with which personality, send them love notes or topic ideas, and check out their merch store and Patreon site. 

Nov 05, 2018
Strippers, Sex Workers, and Success

This week, amidst conversations regarding the gymnastic prowess of pole-dancers and Kelly's aversion to pornography, the ladies talk about what success looks like and defining success beyond the balance of your bank account. 

Debbie Jo also shares the results of her Enneagram Test and opens up about her new part-time gig as a barista and why it was hard for her to decide whether or not to talk about that, publicly. Being an extrovert with social anxiety can be a bitch, Y'all.

Kelly gives a shout-out to My Worst Date Podcast as well as Considered and Conceited Film Club. (Check out Episode 20 of My Worst Date to hear the retelling of Kelly's worst date ever.)

Finally, the ladies get to announce the official launch of www.anonmomhappyhour.com!!! Sponsors and friends, Lore de Force designed a dynamic and gorgeous site for the Podcast and the ladies could not be more thrilled with the results.

Check it out, find the merch store, leave a love note for Kelly and Debbie Jo, see the story behind the friendship and Podcast, visit the Patreon site, and more!

As always, please... pretty please with sugar on top, rate, review, and subscribe.

Oct 29, 2018
Politics, Allies, and the Art of Speaking Up

On this very special episode of A Non Mom Happy Hour, the ladies hosted their first ever male guest! Political scientist, Veteran, and host of the podcast Political Thoughts with Steve, Steven Goff joined the ladies for a discussion of male-female allyship, all things Kavanaugh and SCOTUS, and much, much more!

Kelly and Debbie Jo are also thrilled to announce the official launch of www.anonmomhappyhour.com as well as our Patreon site! Thanks to our very special friends and first official sponsors, Lore de Force for helping to make both of these sites greater than we could have dreamed!

So, what's the deal with Patreon? Patreon is essentially a crowd-funding site for creators, like us, to receive financial support from fans, admirers, and collaborators so that we can keep bringing our podcast to you.

We pour our hearts and souls into this Podcast and we want to reach as many people as possible. This show is what we were born to do -- raising awareness, serving as allies and advocates, empowering women, and making people laugh as much as possible. We don’t just want this to be a hobby, we want it to be a huge part of both of our futures and careers. 

That means that we need support from listeners, fans, and collaborators to cover costs associated with website maintenance, recording equipment and technology, post-production software and labor, and travel and conference fees. Patreon contributions will go to cover all of these costs and allow us to continue producing weekly content for our broader audience, as well as exclusive bonus episodes, videos, blogs, and more for our contributors! 

Stay tuned, as we plan on posting Patreon content this week! (Just in case you missed the link to our Patreon site earlier, here it is again.)

Oct 22, 2018
Questions & Answers & Spiders, Oh My!

This week the ladies answer questions sent in by YOU, the listeners! Hear the story of how they met, why they started the podcast, what makes Kelly so nerdy, and much, much more! 

Special thanks to the Not Suitable for Work Podcast Network and the ladies of Honesty Check Podcast for sending in questions. Also, special thanks to fans Ashley, Skylar, and Phil. 

This episode was a boatload of fun to record, and the ladies hope you have as much fun listening!

Stay tuned for next week, when we have our first male guest, host of Political Thoughts with Steve, Steve Goff! 


Oct 14, 2018
Forgiveness & The Business of Being Human

This week the ladies take on the topic of forgiveness. 

The dictionary definition of forgiveness is as follows:
  1. the action or process of forgiving or being forgiven. 
    • synonyms: pardon, absolution, exoneration, etc. 
But what does that actually mean?! And why does it feel like oneself can be the hardest person in the world to forgive?
Each of the ladies grapples with their own need to forgive themselves and others, realizing in the process that they've been punishing themselves in a strange sense and operating from a space of resentment and fear that has held them back in both their professional and creative ventures.
Oct 08, 2018
Anti-Semites and Craftivism

On this week's episode, Debbie Jo and Kelly talk with special guest and fellow true crime nerd, Alexandra Weingartner, about speaking up when it is most important and even if it makes some folks uncomfortable.

Alex reads and discuses her poem, which appeared in a My Favorite Murder fan subgroup, and is how Debbie Jo and Kelly first became aware of her and her poetry.

The poem is as follows (and was posted without title):

We won't conceal a Nazi in the shadows of our group,
There's levels where the rest of us would never dare to stoop.
If Anti-Semites find a place to shelter in your gaze,
You cannot then be welcome here to darken up our days.
Six million people died, their only crime was being born,
So many souls left tortured, and left millions more to mourn.
So, Holly, if a Nazi is who might appeal to you,
May I suggest you pack up and go back to '42?

The ladies also discuss the #WhyIDidntReport Twitter movement and how one may sometimes struggle with being an entrepreneur and an activist, or a Spoonie and an activist. When do we speak up? When do we not? If we're not speaking up, why aren't we?

If you see something, say something.

For more of Alex's poems check out the Facebook group, Write Us a Poem, Weingartner. You may also find her Facebook page, Weingartner Rhymes, here. Finally, to see Alex's poems and paintings and other crafty things, visit her Instagram, @weingartnercreates.

Sep 30, 2018
The Dreamers & The Doers

This week, Kelly and Debbie Jo talk about money mindset and coming up blue collar. They each tell the stories of how they became entrepreneurs in spite of all of the personal history, education, and mindset that told them they should be/do just about anything else.

Each share their histories in the nonprofit sector prior to becoming business women, and touch a bit on how anxiety-inducing that was, and still can be, for each of them. 

Normally this would have been the week for the gals to have a guest on the show, but the guest who was scheduled had an emergency pop up. Life happnes!

Stay tuned for Episode 12 to hear from our next guest!

Spoiler alert: She's a fellow Murderino, an artist, and a poet.

Sep 23, 2018
Self-Care & Minding Your Own Damn Business

This ish is about to get real, y'all. 

On this episode, Debbie Jo and Kelly tackle self-care and personal care choices, and staying in your own damn lane. It's not up to anyone else to tell you how to best take care of yourself or question your care choices.

Why do so many people on the internet think they've earned some kind of magical medical degree just because they've read a few articles about your condition/illness/whatever? They don't know what it's like to be you. Even if they share some of the same diagnoses, their experience of those diagnoses may be entirely different from your own. 

Your job, above all else, is to survive. You get to do whatever you have to do to survive, regardless of the petty opinions and unsolicited medical advice dished out by keyboard warriors, well-intentioned busy-bodies, and overly opinionated loved ones.

Sep 16, 2018
Accessibility and Guilty Pleasures

On this episode the ladies interview Abbie Díaz, Director of Education at the Wisconsin Maritime Museum. Abbie has worked in thirteen museums and heritage sites across four states. Formerly in the field of Archaeology, Abbie has worked exclusively in museum education for the past five years.

Abbie is on a mission to make museums and historical sites and, really, the world, more accessible to all people, regardless of their unique needs and limitations. Accessibility and inclusivity are her thing. Her battle cry is, "Museums are for everyone." And she means everyone.

We aren't the only ones who think that Abbie is a total badass -- Abbie recently won an award from the freaking Kennedy Center in recognition of her work!

You can follow Abbie on Twitter at @abslovesmuseums

Sep 16, 2018
Hoop Earrings & Rape Culture

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly talk about straight f***ery in East Tennessee, where a high school teacher held a special meeting with female students to tell them about how they can expect to be respected or not be respected based on the clothing and accessories they wear.

The ladies discuss the perpetuation of rape culture and their own experiences sexual assault and the struggle for women who must decide whether to report or not to report.

Trigger Warning: Sexual Assault

While graphic details are not shared, Kelly does speak pretty specifically about an attempted rape/sexual assault she experienced at age 14. Debbie discusses betrayal by the legal system when she reported her abuser.

To lighten things up a bit, the show is brought to a close with a story about something super rad and charitable that happened to Kelly last week, as well as Podcast recommendations from Debbie Jo.

Sep 02, 2018
Chocolate Sprinkles & Badassery

On this week's episode Debbie Jo and Kelly interview badass extraordinatire Marielle Evertsz of Keeping it Real Me: Life Coaching for Teen Girls.

The ladies discuss antiquated Dutch traditions, the magical delight of chocolate sprinkles on toast, (Hagelslag for those in the know) and the enormous stress and pressure that teens and young women find themselves living under these days.

The world is more accessible than ever in the age of social media and the internet -- this can be both a blessing and a curse.

Marielle was the first ever international guest on the Happy Hour, and the ladies very much enjoyed having her. 

Note for our regular listeners: 

We tried a new intro format this week, and we'd love to know what you think! We have a poll going in the Facebook group, or you can yell at us on Instagram or Twitter, or send us an email to nonmomhappyhour@gmail.com

Aug 27, 2018
Anxiety Spirals & Cyborgs

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly talk about their recent challenges with managing all of their roles, projects, and mental health self-care.


The ladies also talk about how one can be a good friend to someone living with chronic pain /invisible illness and/or mental health diagnoses by simply letting them off the hook from time to time.


Also there was cyborgs. And talk of male strippers.

Aug 19, 2018
Poverty and The Pink Tax

This week Debbie Jo and Kelly talk with Teysha Lemanski of Cloth Connection Outreach. Teysha is a mom, a Spoonie, an Etsy store owner, and general badass who founded CCO to help meet the needs of other women who may lack affordable access to reusable feminine health products.

CCO is an entirely volunteer-based organization near Detroit, Michigan, that distributes reusable cups and pad kits to women in need. The ladies talk about poverty and living in the middle of not making enough money to survive but making too much to receive assistance, where it can be difficult to access feminine health resources. 

They also discuss the "Pink Tax" and the barriers that are presented to women living in poverty or experiencing homelessness because, while the FDA qualifies period products as medical devices, menstruation itself is not considered a medical condition... 

Why the fuck should it be so hard to be a woman and access the products we need for reproductive health and hygiene?! 

Want to know more about Cloth Connection Outreach (follow the hashtag #cco!) and how you can help? Check out www.clothconnectionoutreach.org.

You can donate directly to CCO via Paypal at paypal.me/ccoutreachprogram

You can also follow CCO and their efforts on Facebook and Instagram, at @clothconnectionoutreach.

Aug 13, 2018
Drivers' Licenses Don't Grow on Trees

On this episode, Debbie Jo and Kelly talk about being an extroverted person(s) with rampant social anxiety.  The ladies also relived some of their most embarassing moments, as children and, in Debbie's case, as an adult. Busted by her mom. For public drunkenness.

Aug 05, 2018
Recovery & Keychains

On this week's episode Debbie Jo and Kelly interview Claire M. Biggs and Jennie Armstrong, of Lore de Force.

Trigger Warning: The four of us discuss being survivors of sexual assault and abuse, and speak on how we cope and our experiences with PTSD and recovery.

Jul 30, 2018
Aliens and Authenticity

This week some real vulnerability happened! We talked about theremins communicating with aliens, relapsing with our respective mental health disorders and diagnoses, and gave a big fat THANK YOU to everyone who has been patient and supportive while we overcame our technology issues and as we continue to work out some of the kinks!

Jul 23, 2018
Copper Crosses and Sticky Monsters

On this episode, meet your hosts. Hear about Debbie's horrifying experience trying to get an IUD and the story of Kelly's mom, the most bad ass woman she knows. 


Please note: We are recording from two different states, and using relatively new technology to record our Podcast remotely, together. We are aware of the slight sample drops in spots and quiet pops. It's something we're working on and working through with our recording site and some technology upgrades. In other words, please bear with us, we are fucking new at this.

Jul 08, 2018