Friends for the Journey

By Kathrin Gabriel-Jones , Encouragement Coach for Ministering to Ministers Foundation

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Dedicated to the support and advocacy of all who minister along the path of life, Friends for the Journey encourages support, love, and compassion to all vocational workers, clergy, caregivers, ministers, educators, and providers.Friends for the Journey intends to inspire... The realization that there are many different ways to ask for and receive Help.To recall the possibility of Hope can be a rebelliously loving act.Consider that Healing might be possible when they least expect it, andan Experience of personal Renewal through connection, community, and curiosity.

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Gregory Reinauer: There's Something Here We Haven't Seen Yet...
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Kathrin sits down with colleague and friend Gregory Reinauer, who introduces beautiful perspectives about music, conversation, and actively engaging hope in our lives. A bass musician trained at Berklee College of Music, Gregory shares how good ears support an understanding of the foundation that unites all the different strains of music within our lives.  Together, Gregory and Kathrin explore new possibilities of creativity, music, faith, and – as Gregory says - that there’s something here that we have not yet seen that is here to emerge for all of us and to be interested in that.  (A tip o’the hat to Gregory!) 

How do we face the challenges and trials of the world? Gregory stands at the edge of that question and does not flinch during a heart-warming, thought-provoking dialogue about the faith that we are part of a universe that we cannot fall out of. 

Join us for a conversation rich with laughter and inspiration.  You are in the right place, friend. Welcome.

*PostScript: I realized after our conversation that I’d mistakenly attributed “All shall be well, all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well” to Teresa of Avila rather than Julian of Norwich. There I go being human again!

Some links to share:

Gregory Reinauer Creative Action Coaching
Crash Course for a Resilient Life
Berklee College of Music in Boston
The Casket of Dr Caligari
Joanna Macy
Teresa of Avila 

And Please note, Kathrin misquoted the phrase “All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.” This, along with many other fantastic quotes, is attributed to Julian of Norwich, not Teresa of Avila. (Heavens to mergetroid!)

Original links to the Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers) source for Rabbi Tarfon’s quote,  “It is not your duty to finish the work of perfecting the world), but neither are you at liberty to neglect it.”

George Kao (link to the Friends for the Journey episode) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1363012/5525260 

Dag Hammarskjöld (Link in Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/946904.Dag_Hammarskj_ld)  “For all that has been, thank you. For all that is to come, yes.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/35474-for-all-that-has-been-thank-you-for-all-that 

Gregory recommends the music of Melodeego. Thank you, Gregory!

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:
Ministering to Ministers 
Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination<

Nov 26, 2020
Reflection: The Mythical Beauty of Silence
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How much silence do you notice in your day?  In your mind? One of the most common complaints about the modern world is the lack of silence, and it’s easy to project a longing onto the past and think: oh, the past had space for silence, and there’s no silence in the modern world.

But there’s one constant throughout all of history: people. And there’s nothing silent about people. 

In today’s reflection, Kathrin poses the question: how do you notice silence?

Some links to share:

The natural world provides much calming support. Of course, we’re not always able to get back to nature when we’d like to, so here’s a little bit of the natural world for you:

      Monterey Bay Aquarium: Moon Jelly LiveCam
      Monterey Bay Aquarium: Monterey Bay LiveCam
      Monterey Bay Aquarium: Live Ocean Sounds from Monterey Bay
       Vancouver Waterfront
       Driving through Washington State, USA
      An Afternoon & Evening in Chernihiv, Ukraine 

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

     Ministering to Ministers 
     Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
      Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
      Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
     Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books 

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Nov 19, 2020
Michael Chittum: The Surprise & Challenge Along the Journey
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Kathrin gets to share some wonderful conversation and laughter with her friend, Michael Chittum, who has walked alongside Ministering to Ministers in their service to others and been a Friend for the Journey to many over the past twenty-five years.  Michael’s years as a pastor and leader have culminated in this work as the Executive Director of the National Association of Christian Congregational Churches, which is most often abbreviated to simply “N.A.”.  During their dialogue, Michael shares how he’s been guided throughout his journey, what matters most to him, and how these inform his life. 

Welcome, Friend. It’s great to have you with us.

Some links to share:
John Killinger’s profile
         A listing of books by John Killinger.   
         The novel Michael mentioned: Jessie 

The National Association of Christian Congregational Churches (NACCC)  

The origins of the Triquetra symbol are unclear, but it has remained a constant throughout the ages. If you’re not sure what a Triquetra looks like, here are two examples here.

Henri Nouwen
          Books written by Henri Nouwen
         The Wounded Healer, available to review on Goodreads 

Parker Palmer
        Books by Parker Palmer

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:
Ministering to Ministers
Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books 

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request

Nov 12, 2020
Reflection: After an Altering Event
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At the time of this recording, voting has just ended for the Presidential Election, a pandemic is currently sweeping across the planet, extreme weather events continue to cause record flooding, drought, and wildfires, and hundreds of species of animals of every size face extinction every day.

There’s a lot happening in the world.

And that’s just in the world. What about what’s happening in your own life?  

When an event – any event – alters our lives, we have to keep going on. And that’s hard.  

But sometimes when our lives become upended because of the actions and decisions of other people, as in a forced termination or a medical separation from your career, or the thoughtless words of another person, or the discrimination and prejudice because of how you look or who you love, that altering event becomes even more complicated and painful.

And that’s worth looking at.  Because you matter, that’s right, I’ll say it again, You Matter

You’re not alone. Below are resources to use and share:

            Veterans Crisis Line
            National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
            National Domestic Violence Hotline
            National Child Abuse Hotline
            The Trevor Project
            Trans Lifeline
             RAINN Sexual Assault Telephone Hotline
             Immigration Advocates Network
             American Addiction Centers Alcohol & Drug Hotlines
            Ministering to Ministers: We Are Here for You 

The natural world provides much calming support. Of course, we’re not always able to get back to nature when we’d like to, so here’s a little bit of the natural world for you:
                 Monterey Bay Aquarium: Moon Jelly LiveCam

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

            Ministering to Ministers
            Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
            Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
            Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
            Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request

Nov 05, 2020
DJ Kinney: Rhyming Our Way Through History
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Kathrin gets to sit down with Dr. DJ Kinney, a historian who looks into dangerous chapters in history without flinching, to talk about hope and cynicism in a changing world. DJ Kinney researches, produces and hosts The Cold War Vault podcast, which looks at this secretive period of history and peels back the curtain to reveal the humanity within.

There’s a lot going on in the world right now. No matter when you read this, something is going on in the world. Maybe there’s something shaking up your life. Maybe your world has undergone a slow, tectonic shift over several years or a sudden, massive upheaval.  Yet however change happens around us, we are left trying to find our way through the history we remember, the present we might not recognize, and a future we can hardly imagine. Yet we keep going on, hoping that we can look back on our lives to understand what has transpired. 

Here are some links to what we discussed in our conversation:

About The Cold War Vault
The three-part series of the Cold War Vault, The Otters of Amchitka:
                     The Otters of Amchitka, Part 1, 2 & 3

 Clay Lamps through history at the Milwaukee Public Museum:
                Oil Lamp Classifications
                Image of Byzantine slipper lamp

Pliny the Elder & Pompeii:  “A Voyage into Catastrophe: Pompeii and the Roman Navy” by Will Mather, Western Australia Museum
"The Destruction of Pompeii, 79 AD," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (1999)
The “Great Man Theory” of History
Is There Still Value in ‘Great Man’ History?”, Four articles about the Great Man Theory of history in History Today

The Great Man Theory”, Villanova University 

History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes,” Fall 2018 Ohio Wesleyan University Feature by Richard North Patterson  

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation.
 Ministering to Ministers
Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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Oct 29, 2020
Reflection: There We Go Being Human Again
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It’s that familiar feeling that never feels good: that realization of making a mistake, overlooking something important, missing a deadline, speaking when listening might be the better option…

There we go, being human again. 

I first heard this phrase from a wise woman I met who, upon hearing me berate myself for an oversight, said There you go, being human again...did you think you were immune?

That Oh no! feeling: 

  • during those last inches of empty space after missing the last step while going downstairs...
  • as your hand knocks against something on the counter that begins to whirl and tilt... 
  • hearing the thoughts that had been rolling around inside your own head coming out of your mouth at the point when a conversation transforms into an argument…
  • realizing what day it really is after a bad (or good) night’s sleep...
  • losing time in the whirlwind of news stories, bad stories, epic tales, or a lovely conversation…

That moment...it’s universal for all of us...there we go, being human.

Some links to share:

Call them what you will, everybody experiences them now and again: meltdowns. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-art-of-the-meltdown-11602015018 

From the Iona Community, this short, prayerful meditative prayer soothes and comforts: https://youtu.be/iMU1k845KuE

The natural world provides much calming support. Of course, we’re not always able to get back to nature when we’d like to, so here’s a little bit of the natural world for you:

Monterey Bay Aquarium: Moon Jelly LiveCam

Monterey Bay Aquarium: Monterey Bay LiveCam

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

Ministering to Ministers

Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination

Ministering to Ministers: The Problem

Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request


Oct 22, 2020
Roberta Damon: Warming Ourselves at the Hearth of Hope
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Every once in awhile, we’re fortunate to meet a kindred soul along the road. That’s how it feels when Roberta Damon sits down with Kathrin to share some insight, wit, laughter, as well as a little Shakespeare.  

As a marriage & family therapist, Roberta brought clinical experience, faithful study, and academic insight into her work on Ministering to Ministers. As a woman of faith, Roberta infuses her writing with a compassionate reflection of the human experience. 

 In this episode, weaving together their respective wit, experience, and compassion, Roberta and Kathrin share their discovered treasures with one another and you in their dialogue.

 Welcome, Friend. We’re glad you’re here with us today.

 Here are links to the resources mentioned in our conversation:

Roberta’s Website: RobertaDamon.me
Roberta’s books:
    A Voice Beyond Weeping,
    Dear Mrs. Noah: Letters to Unnamed Women of the Bible
    Roberta’s Introduction to Dear Mrs. Noah on YouTube
    Dear Abishag: Letters to Little Known Women of the Bible
   Theirs Is the Kingdom

Roberta M. Damon, PhD, recipient of the Ministering to Ministers’ Campbell-Wallace Award
Interested in Contacting Roberta? Send her a note here.

Also:
Lewis B. Smedes’ book, Forgive & Forget, Healing the Hurts We Don’t Deserve
Rascall Flats song, I Won’t Let Go
Shakespeare’s Sonnet 73, read by David Shaw-Parker on YouTube

Here are some interesting resources about Mindfulness:
The Imagine Project introduces mindfulness and creativity to help children across the world deal with stress and trauma.
The Mayo Clinic provides a little clinical overview of mindfulness here.
Beliefnet.com has some information about meditation as well via this link.

And Kathrin hasn’t been able to find the source of the metaphor (or legend) of lifting the silk scarf off of the thorn bush anywhere. If you are familiar with this image or know the source of this metaphor, please let Kathrin know by sending her a message

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produces and supports this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

Ministering to Ministers
Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request

Oct 15, 2020
Reflections in the Moments Before We Share Our Story
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There is, within each of us, a story that we have not yet shared. In fact, there might be several stories we have not shared. 

We might want to, but don’t know how.
How to begin telling this story…
Where to start...
What to say…
Who to include in the telling…
When might be the right time…
Why take the bother of untangling the knots of that story…

These stories remain with us, told or untold, rolling around in our memories, occasionally bumping against the edges of our hearts.  And in those moments when we bump against those stories, the world might seem larger and emptier than we thought it could be. 

But what if, within the very stories we carry, there might be a glimpse of the everlasting festival of paradise? What if, in those moments of feeling lonely, we might recall that solitude and loneliness unites all of Creation in a deep yearning for one another?

These stories, left untold, hold the promise of unity, for we are, truly, not alone. We, each one of us, have the potential to be the ambassador of peace for one another. 

 There, in those moments before we share our story.

 I look forward to hearing yours.

 Links:

 Kathrin Gabriel-Jones is an Encouragement Coach in private practice and works with Ministering to Ministers as a Friend for the Journey.  

 HelpGuide, a nonprofit mental health and wellness website, provides evidence-based information for a broad spectrum of issues, concerns, and circumstances: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/dealing-with-uncertainty.htm

 Interpersonal Communication and Resilience during COVID-19 Chaos, published March 26, 2020 by Maria Ventis, Associate Professor at Purdue (last accessed 09/23/2020) https://cla.purdue.edu/academic/communication/blog/interpersonal-communication-and-resilience-during-covid-19-chaos/

 Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produces and supports this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

            Ministering to Ministers
            Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
            Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination   
            Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
            Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

 

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request

 

Oct 08, 2020
Scott Cooper Tilton: The Deep Echo of Simple Sounds
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Kathrin shares some time with her friend, Scott Cooper Tilton, to talk about the literal landscapes he’s journeyed through: from Alna, Maine to Rockland, Maine, then to Bengaluru, India (also known as Bangalore), to Malawi, Africa, where he served the village of Kamwazeka, Malawi through his work with the Peace Corp. After a medical separation, Scott’s journey took him back to Rockland, Maine.  

Scott’s explorations of life have introduced him to multifaceted aspects of life, faith, and culture. And with a generous grace, Scott shares insights about sound, friendship, space, faith, and the unexpected ways that hope sometimes appears along the road.

Links:

Malawi:


HelpGuide, a nonprofit mental health, and wellness website, provides evidence-based information for a broad spectrum of issues, concerns, and circumstances: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/dealing-with-uncertainty.htm

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produces and supports this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

Ministering to Ministers
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books
Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

(all sites last accessed on September 29, 2020)

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request


Oct 01, 2020
Reflection: Expectations & the Counterweight of Possibility
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The world feels populated with billions of expectations, shimmering in the very air around us. The weight of these invisible expectations congeals before us and leave our passage muted with barely a ripple in our wake.  Whether unspoken or shouted aloud, expectations gather around us like meerkats on an anthill, poking heads up and around to see what’s happening, who’s involved, and how we measure up.

 However, there remains a counterweight to the pressure of those crowding expectations.  Sometimes, it takes a moment or two for it to come into focus.

 But it does. 

 And when the counterweight of possibility takes shape in our lives, it remains with us like the warm sunshine on a cold day, warming us with gentle, steadfast presence.

 Links:

 HelpGuide, a nonprofit mental health and wellness website, provides evidence-based information for a broad spectrum of issues, concerns, and circumstances: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/dealing-with-uncertainty.htm

 Interpersonal Communication and Resilience during COVID-19 Chaos, published March 26, 2020 by Maria Ventis, Associate Professor at Purdue (last accessed 09/23/2020) https://cla.purdue.edu/academic/communication/blog/interpersonal-communication-and-resilience-during-covid-19-chaos/

 Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

Ministering to Ministers

Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination

Ministering to Ministers: The Problem

Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

 Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request

Sep 24, 2020
Clarice Dibble - A View From the Other Side
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Description:

Kathrin sits down with her friend Clarice Dibble to share a conversation about learning, mindfulness, grief, creativity, heartbreak, silence, and resilience. Both Kathrin and Clarice share a special bond: each of their respective spouses have suffered during their vocational work of ministry. 

It’s a special kind of weight to carry the sorrow and pain that our loved one experiences: we wish to defend them, we want to stand guard before them, we want to call out the injustice our loved one has experienced. And yet at times, we must remain silent and swallow the anger, the hurt, and our own pain.

Regardless of the field in which our loved one’s work, we long to support and encourage them in the work they feel called to do. And when that work suddenly ends, it affects spouses as well.  Whether our loved one experienced a "forced termination", "constructive discharge", "constructive dismissal", "wrongful termination", "medical separation", been fired, pensioned off, or dismissed, (oh, there are so many euphemisms!), the pain remains bright and heavy in our midst. Sometimes the terms used to define and describe this experience might become a heavy curtain behind which pain and suffering occur in lonely silence. 

With grace and humor, Clarice helps us peel back the curtain to allow us to see one another – and especially our self - with grace, love, and compassion. 

Links:

“Forced Termination Leaves Deep Scars on Ministers Spouses”, published December 7, 2017 by Charles Chandler, DMin. https://ministeringtoministers.org/2017/12/forced-termination-leaves-deep-scars-on-ministers-spouses/

“10 Things Only Teacher Spouses Understand” by Michael Peyton; published on WeAreTeachers.Com (https://www.weareteachers.com/teacher-spouses/ ) (last accessed 09/08/2020)

Military One Source: Support for Spouses: https://www.militaryonesource.mil/family-relationships/spouse

Operation We Are Here: Get Connected with Military Spouses, Significant Others (and Veteran Spouses, too!): https://www.operationwearehere.com/GetConnected.html

 “Supporting Your Spouse’s Career”, published September 8, 2020, by Janet Kidd Stewart. Accessed on Physicians Practice: https://www.physicianspractice.com/view/supporting-your-spouses-career (last accessed 09/08/2020)

“When Your Spouse Is on the Front Lines” by Molly Olmstead. Published April 8, 2020 in Slate Magazine. https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/04/coronavirus-emergency-room-doctors-nurses-spouses-conversation.html

“Covid-19 Psychological Wellness Guide: Partners of Frontline Healthcare Workers” Version 2, published 04/20/20 through Emory School of Medicine, Atlanta Georgia. https://med.emory.edu/departments/psychiatry/_documents/tips.partnershcw.pdf (last accessed 09/08/2020)

Sep 17, 2020
Reflection - Are You Okay
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Kathrin’s dog makes an appearance today, expressing canine concern in the midst of a world filled with confusion and stress. But, let’s get real, sometimes companion animals provide the most honest way of asking, “are you okay?”


Sometimes it’s hard to know how to answer that question. We may not realize the standard we hold for our own self. There may be even expectations we unknowingly place on our own self, our own identity, our own experience.


Are We Okay? Are You Okay?


Getting to the core of “are you okay?” takes work. But my dog understands that hard work of being there, being with, and being loved.


Links:

Covid-19: Resilient Educator Toolkit https://resilienteducator.com/covid19/ dedicated to the support of teachers and educators, students, parents, and families.


“Too Many Pastors Are Falling on Their Own Swords”, by Jakob Topper   https://baptistnews.com/article/too-many-pastors-are-falling-on-their-own-swords/ (last accessed 09/08/2020)


“Healthcare Worker Burnout & Self-Care” by Dr. Alisa Burpee, a Seattle-based clinical psychologist. https://www.providence.org/news/uf/625195886 (last accessed 09/08/2020)


HelpGuide, a nonprofit mental health and wellness website, provides evidence-based information for a broad spectrum of issues, concerns, and circumstances: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/dealing-with-uncertainty.htm


National Association of Social Workers provides some good resources & strategies for self-care during the Coronavirus Pandemic: https://www.socialworkers.org/Practice/Infectious-Diseases/Coronavirus/Self-Care-During-the-Coronavirus-Pandemic

 

Kathrin Gabriel-Jones’ August 13, 2020 presentation at Rockland Public Library, Rockland Maine: “What Does It Mean To Be Okay?”


Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produces and supports this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers

Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination

    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem

    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

 

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request

Sep 10, 2020
Pastor AbbyLynn Haskell - Hope Changes
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Kathrin shares a truly delightful conversation about the many patterns and shapes that make up the mosaic of AbbyLynn Haskell: sacred storyteller, pastor, boat captain, and retreat coordinator, a person of faith, explorer of the oceans in the world and within the imagination. With good humor, the gift of story, and a wealth of hard-won wisdom, Abby reminds us that, even as we each grow and change, hope changes as well.

 

While it might be tempting to say that Abby wears a lot of hats, it might be more fitting to say that Abby allows the light of insight and inspiration to shine through the many windows of her faith and creativity.  It was an absolutely delightful conversation to share, filled with laughter.  I hope you join us.


Links:

AbbyLynn Haskell:

 

Additional links related to AbbyLynn Haskell’s conversation:


Some supportive resources related to learning disabilities and neurodiversity, including Auditory Processing Disorder, which Abby mentions in this episode: 

 

Here’s a great book about Dyslexia that Abby recommends: The Gift of Dyslexia: Why Some of the Smartest People Can’t Read...and How They Can Learn, by Ronald D. Davis and Eldon M. Braun. As Abby describes it, “this book lifts up the benefits of being blessed with a learning challenge.”

 

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who

Sep 03, 2020
Reflection - When We Feel Broken
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Sometimes events occur in our lives that sweep through, rippling through the foundations of our life like tectonic ruptures, leaving us feeling off-kilter, a little broken. Illness, uncertainty, transition, betrayal, job loss… 

 

It makes sense that we feel unbalanced when change rolls over us like a storm. We might feel minimized by the events that overwhelm us. 

 

So...how do we move forward when we feel broken?  

 

Sometimes we can move forward by standing still. The moon remains implacable in the sky above us as it moves over us during both night and day. And even as, little by little the moon becomes minimized as it traces its path through the sky, so too the moon begins to rebuild a little bit more of itself day by day.  Until the moon once again reclaims its magnificent beautiful self. 

 

And so, too, will you.


Links:

Covid-19: Resilient Educator Toolkit https://resilienteducator.com/covid19/ dedicated to the support of teachers and educators, students, parents, and families. 

 

“Too Many Pastors Are Falling on Their Own Swords”, by Jakob Topper                        https://baptistnews.com/article/too-many-pastors-are-falling-on-their-own-swords/

 

“Healthcare Worker Burnout & Self-Care” by Dr. Alisa Burpee, a Seattle-based clinical psychologist.  https://www.providence.org/news/uf/625195886  (last accessed 

 

HelpGuide, a nonprofit mental health and wellness website, provides evidence-based information for a broad spectrum of issues, concerns, and circumstances: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/dealing-with-uncertainty.htm

 

National Association of Social Workers provides some good resources & strategies for self-care during the Coronavirus Pandemic: https://www.socialworkers.org/Practice/Infectious-Diseases/Coronavirus/Self-Care-During-the-Coronavirus-Pandemic

 

 

Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produces and supports this podcast.  Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

Ministering to Ministers

Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination

Ministering to Ministers: The Problem

Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

 

Music for this episode has been legally purchased from AudioJungle. License available upon request



Aug 27, 2020
Pastor Skip Irby: Terribly Normal: Grief, the Pandemic, and Fatigue
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Kathrin sits down with Pastor Skip to explore the suddenly changed landscape in which we find ourselves during the Covid-19 pandemic days. In this unprecedented time that feels unmoored, unfamiliar, and sometimes unending, we discuss aspects of the world that have become “terribly normal” and how lamentations might support us in these times, the difference between hope and optimism, and Skip reminds us of the ways in which we are all connected.

As always, Pastor Skip recalls the importance of giving voice to our own personal story, giving three important ingredients that can help us in these times of tremendous upheaval and uncertain change. Including Yogi Berra, Carl Dudley, D. Elton Trueblood, the Psalmist, the Chicago Mass Choir, and even the Rolling Stones, Kathrin and Skip’s conversation ranges throughout the wide landscape of this life in this pandemic.

There are some wonderful, supportive resources online. Here are a few:

Psalms of Lament by Amy Weems and Walter Bruggeman. If you’re interested in this book, please consider purchasing this book from a minority owned book seller. Here are a few lists to help you in your search: 

July 27, 2009 performance of “You Can’t Hurry God” by Chicago Mass Choir

Erin Gravley and her sister, Grace, created a website called i dream of covid, which is dedicated to the collection and sharing of the wide variety of dreams people experience during this unprecedented time. Here’s the NPR interview with the creators.

The Shiyr Poets: How Long (Psalm 13) and On This Troubled Day (Psalm 10)

“A public [person in service], though they necessarily available at many times, must learn to hide. If they are always available, they’re not worth enough when they are available.” D. Elton Trueblood

Here’s a treasure trove of unique wisdom from Yogi Berra.

Check out these two other Pastor Skip Irby conversations on the Friends for the Journey:

  • Choosing your second or third response: 
Aug 20, 2020
Reflection: In This Waiting Place, How Are You?
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How are you?

Those three words seem so simple, so short, combined in the right order to make a really simple question that should be easy to answer. 

When the world turns upside down, whatever the inflection we use when we ask this question, the longing we feel for one another remains.

In unfamiliar times, when the world turns upside down, we find ourselves in a Waiting Place, a place after what we had known to be but before we feel confident in our life once again. That Waiting Place is a time of not knowing, the place of not yet. 

It is a place that has been with humanity since the beginning. 

Links & Resources: 

There are some wonderful, supportive resources online. Here are a few:

Vox.com: Rabbi David Wolpe explains how to make sense of suffering: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/7/8/21223748/judaism-religion-god-suffering-david-wolpe-future-perfect

HelpGuide, a nonprofit mental health, and wellness website, provides evidence-based information for a broad spectrum of issues, concerns, and circumstances: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/dealing-with-uncertainty.htm

National Association of Social Workers provides some good resources & strategies for self-care during the Coronavirus Pandemic: https://www.socialworkers.org/Practice/Infectious-Diseases/Coronavirus/Self-Care-During-the-Coronavirus-Pandemic

These might be familiar, but worth repeating:

Resources to watch:

Monterey Bay Aquarium 

Live Jelly Cam: https://youtu.be/28cnxCbix0k

Moon Jelly Cam: https://youtu.be/4s1iaXflVcg

Morning MeditOcean: https://youtu.be/4RtVT7Cfgp4

Here are some other resources:

 Ministering to Ministers Resources (Library)

 Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

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Aug 13, 2020
Bingz Huang - Rediscovering the Natural Resilience of Our Gentle Hearts
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Kathrin gets to share some time with Bingz Huang, founder of Bingz Healing Light to talk about love, transitions, and the unexpected way that gratitude sometimes appears in our lives. Founded in the practice of and belief in Gentleness, Bingz works with “fellow sensitive souls who instinctively know that they just need someone to hold space for them to be gentler on themselves.”


We talk about discovering the strong foundation of one’s own self, the value of being one’s own best friend, and the powerful strength of the gentle, sensitive heart. Because, whether we’re connecting across a room or across the world, when we engage work that we believe in, we put our hearts on the line. With Bingz’s gentle guidance, our conversation explores the facets of tending our own selves, our own energy, our own love as we continue our soulful work.


Links:


Bingz Huang:

Website: https://www.bingzhuanghealer.com/


About Bingz: https://www.bingzhuanghealer.com/about


Book: Empower Your Life with Gentleness (Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/bingzhuang)


Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@bingzhuang


Medium article, Learning from My Harshness as a Gentle Empath Mom: https://medium.com/@bingzhuang/learning-from-my-harshness-as-a-gentle-empath-mom-b294d60c4c27


Other Resources:

Ministering to Ministers Resources (Library)

Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats


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Aug 06, 2020
Reflection - Meditation - Prayer - Just Breathe
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Life can get busy. Period. It just does. It gets hectic, even. And all of us have heard that refrain about the benefits of having a quiet moment for mindfulness. 


Call it meditation or call it prayer, it can sometimes be difficult to find those moments of quiet. When we’re lucky (or blessed, depending on your perspective), we can find those quiet moments and gain some quiet space in our minds and hearts. But, just outside the door to that quiet space, the concerns of the day, the week, the world, our lives can sometimes loom in our thoughts, filling our quiet time with static.


I have to think I’m not alone in this experience.

So, what if we try something a little different. Rather than naming it “meditation” or “prayer”, what if we Just Breathe… What could happen then?


Links & Resources:

There are some wonderful, supportive resources online. Here are a few:


Some Articles:

Jonah Lynch’s article, What’s the Deal with Prayer?

https://medium.com/be-unique/whats-the-deal-with-prayer-e2d33eeb22b2


Sasha Bronner’s article, 12 Myths About Meditation We Have To Stop Believing: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/meditation-myths_n_6804780?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAM8zo44TUgIqJJZn5SOS6nUGMDg3wj4yuk_AqPgzArilGz4Qe-4I5_3qPPSH6f2o_SFqiGbgxQmj1kbAkBIyKRmj4JpIepAihBGOKjHPpk6JKuecZ5Won1dnrK26coyvV-k1oJcE-TwKgCJR9PsueDytip-0ywuSVvimDWAs0kIi


Megan Boley’s article, Why You Should Pray Even If You Don’t Believe in God:

https://medium.com/@megbo/why-you-should-pray-even-if-you-dont-believe-in-god-2c1e345579dd


Resources to Watch:

Monterey Bay Aquarium

Live Jelly Cam: https://youtu.be/28cnxCbix0k

Moon Jelly Cam: https://youtu.be/4s1iaXflVcg

Morning MeditOcean: https://youtu.be/4RtVT7Cfgp4


Here are some other resources:

 Ministering to Ministers Resources (Library)

 Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

 

Timothy Isaiah Cho’s article, Breaking the Cycle of Spiritual Abuse:

https://medium.com/@timothyisaiahcho/breaking-the-cycle-of-spiritual-abuse-daf32425b5b2


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Jul 30, 2020
Pastor Skip Irby - The Power of Listening in Times of Upheaval
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Kathrin gets to sit down with Pastor Skip and talk about the power of listening during a time of upheaval. Pastor Skip talks about the value of listening as we engage difficult conversations about the history of racial inequity and prejudice, and how, through listening, we can discover the value of our second response.


Pastor Skip Irby has been a volunteer facilitator at Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats for eight years and has chaired the Board of Ministering to Ministers since 2019. Drawing on his 35 years’ study of family systems, life in ministry, and willingness to look in the rear-view mirror, Skip invites us to reflect on what matters to each of us, embracing our strengths, and discovering resilience in the face of adversity.


LINKS & RESOURCES:


BOOKS:

White Fragility, by Robin DiAngelo

You can find ways to purchase this book, as well as obtain a FREE Reader’s Guide on Robin DiAngelo’s Official Website: https://robindiangelo.com/


How to be an Antiracist, by Ibram X. Kendi

Official Website: https://www.ibramxkendi.com/how-to-be-an-antiracist-1

Ibram X. Kendi Antiracism Center: https://www.ibramxkendi.com/antiracism-center-2


Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix, by Edwin Friedman Find it HERE


WATCH:

Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man with Emmanuel Acho:

Website: https://uncomfortableconvos.com/

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/h8jUA7JBkF4


OTHER RESOURCES:

Washington Post’s The Lily, The New Normal: Antiracism: You May Be Doing It Wrong. Here’s Why.

and

Ministering to Ministers Resources (Library)

as well as

Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats


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Jul 23, 2020
Reflection - Sometimes, When Its Hard to Focus...
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As we make our way along this journey, we sometimes get a chance to reflect on what's happened in our lives. Every other week, we hope to give you a short reflection along the way.

 

Sometimes, when it’s hard to focus, we might get a chance to connect in ways we hadn’t expected. Sometimes, when it’s hard to focus, we might be surprised by a connection, a gift, a moment when we get to be who we are, mess and all.

 

It's a hectic, uncertain, and frenzied time we're living in right now. But we want to be your Friends for the Journey.

 

https://ministeringtoministers.org/what-we-do/

 

 

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Jul 16, 2020
George Kao: Hope Faith and Relationship
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Kathrin is really excited to share some time with George Kao to talk about hope, faith, and relationships. The co-founder of Markao Business Academy, George provides inspirational support and advice to people across the world through coursework, videos, personal coaching, and individual and group mentoring. 


Links:

George Kao:


Fort Funston, Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy:

https://www.parksconservancy.org/parks/fort-funston


About Ministering to Ministers Foundation: https://ministeringtoministers.org/about-mtm/


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Jul 09, 2020
Reflection - The Sound of That Thank You
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As we make our way along this journey, we sometimes get a chance to reflect on what's happened in our lives. Every other week, we hope to give you a short reflection along the way.


This week, Kathrin shares an experience of deep connection across the many miles that separate us.


It's a hectic, uncertain, and frenzied time we're living in right now. But we want to be your Friends for the Journey.


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Jul 02, 2020
Skip Irby - Working On the Dance of Ministry
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Kathrin sits down with Skip to explore the landscape of change and talk about how, sometimes looking in the rearview mirror can help us each discern the central cores of what we believe, what keeps us strong, and how we can grow deeper in love and relationship through our lives.

Pastor Skip Irby has been a volunteer facilitator at Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats for eight years and has chaired the Board of Ministering to Ministers since 2019. Drawing on his 35 years’ study of family systems, life in ministry, and willingness to look in the rearview mirror, Skip invites us to reflect on what matters to each of us, embracing our strengths, and discovering resilience in the face of adversity. 


Links:

Ministering to Ministers Resources (Library)

Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats

Edwin Friedman books:

Generation to Generation

and

Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix  

and

The Edwin Friedman Model of Family Systems Thinking, Academic Leadership, The Online Journal

and

TEDx How The Story Transforms the Storyteller, by Donald Davis


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Jun 25, 2020
Melissa Fallen, Lost & Found
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Today, Kathrin sits down with Dr. Melissa Fallen to talk about the space between hope and hopelessness in the aftermath of loss.

Melissa is the pastor of Glen Allen Baptist Church of Richmond, Virginia, and author of Lost and Found: From Losing Your Pulpit to Finding Your Passion.

We invite you to grab a cup and join us. We are your Friends for the Journey.


Towel and Basin Memoir: Personal Reflections on Baptist Theological Seminary at Richmond is available through Amazon, Good Reads, or your local book seller.(https://www.ebookpbook.com/portfolio/towel-and-basin-memoir/)


Glen Allen Baptist Church is located about 20 minutes north of Richmond, Virginia. https://glenallenbaptist.org/

Jun 18, 2020
Friends Along the Journey Promo!
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There are many different paths along the journey of life, and some parts of the paths can feel very lonely. So it's good to know that there are Friends Along the Journey.


And that's exactly what this podcast is all about. And here's the first little peek!

Jun 03, 2020